Logitech MX Master 3 Review - I'm Switching!

[@VikramSoni2]

productivity = video editing.... Source: Every single review on youtube

[@bamabaso]

Vikram Soni So true.

[@pensivenincompoop2016]

lolllll ya you can tell they're all copying from one another or are sharing the same notes. You can tell the type of "profession" they are aiming their "review" is for.

[@Harrysound]

It’s the endless cycle of getting a product that makes a video about the product with the use case being making the video for the product with the product

[@VikramSoni2]

@@Harrysound hahaha catch 22

[@Harrysound]

Vikram Soni do you know if you can use this mouse without the shitty reciver. I still have an original MX 1000 but would love something very similar without the shitty receiver

[@rickimoran8665]

We need this in a silent click version, I work in an area with lots of mice! And the clicking is like a swarm of crickets.

[@withstyle7816]

yeah the click on the 2s is very loud. you can hear it in a 30m long office. i put the left click on the back button so its silent :)

[@withstyle7816]

@Taras Buria you can put the left click on the back or forward button or the hidden thumb button

[@withstyle7816]

@moo of course it is not on the 2s on the 3 its actually nice because the button is where your thumb already rests :). But better than a loud click.

[@iielysiumx5811]

Frankie Santana yeah or maybe a button that puts it in silent mode

[@withstyle7816]

@@iielysiumx5811 thats an idea. usually completely silent due to new switches, and then on non silent mode a little click speaker that gets enabled to click...

[@matthew1784]

This is one of the few channels were I actually don't mind ads, they're actually pretty funny. Great Vid by the way.

[@ItsReaxxion]

jaystwocents want to have few words with you

[@why_tho_]

@@ItsReaxxion Ah, I see a man of culture.

[@JarrodsTech]

Looks interesting, the forward button on my original MX Master makes me sad, it's so awkward to hit.

[@tams805]

I know. I don't know who thought that button placement was good!

[@clansome]

@Jarod'sTech Totally agree with you on that. That said it's still a great mouse and I love being able to use it with my laptop via bluetooth and then switch to my HTPC using a nano Unified receiver which also looks after the keyboard.

[@DavidVazquezBk]

Hit both buttons with the middle right side bone of your thumb, you can get used pretty easily

[@TjAndersonMMA]

Dad?

[@withmygoodeyeclosed]

I actually got used to that, still use the original at home and i still love it. Got the MX Master 3 at work and while it is indeed better, i have found myself hitting the horizontal scroll wheel a few times on accident.

[@metallurgico]

G700S for gaming, MX Master 3 (just ordered) for work. I still have my Logitech 10$ mouse from 20 years ago and it's working.

[@LuisC7]

WTF? A cheap *$10* mouse is still working fine after *20* years? Only from Logitech...

[@Noise-Bomb]

I've seen a pic of an old logitech mouse that was so warn that there was literary no palm low friction pad left. That thing must have moved thousands of kilometres over the desk and it still worked. Funny part is that there are still replacement pads for these mice so you could use it even longer

[@Kryptonaaayt]

Are you serious ? Guess Im just unlucky, I had my G603 replacement 3 fcking times until it's warranty expired and now after 4 months it's already showing it's usual defect. Double clicking on all buttons

[@czdot]

I have both MX Master 1 and G602. I used MX at work and I've been using G602 instead. Those 11 buttons, light weight and additional mouse gestures are hard to beat. I just wish it had the MX scroll wheel or at least the one from the Marathon mouse.

[@TheRonron1994]

Logitech should really update G700s

[@grishhung2828]

I couldn’t even hear the 3’s scroll wheel so I turned my volume all the way up, then the 2S’s went BRRRRRRR

[@johnnyvvlog]

Someone needs to send this mouse to Apple to show that you don't need a lightning port at the bottom for charging.

[@shmookins]

I had to look that up because I didn't understand. NOw I am confused: why make such an obvious retarded design choice like that? Did they ever answer this question?

[@tims4654]

@@shmookins because its apple

[@WouterStudioHD]

@@shmookins Well, there isn't really a better place on the mouse. It doesn't fit on the front nor the back and if they put it on the side people would try to use it and then be in an even more awkward position. It's not ideal, but I get why they did it.

[@z0phi3l]

@@WouterStudioHD I have one of those mice for work and I guarantee you a USB C or lightning port could easily fit in the front

[@WouterStudioHD]

@@z0phi3l You should probably take a second look then, because I have one in my hand now and it absolutely cannot fit on the front or the back.

[@angelguerena8911]

Nice timing, I was considering the MX 2S for my work laptop but the thing that kept me away of it were the side buttons, I use them a lot in my G502 and the fact that they're better positioned for this one looks pretty great for me.

[@hamedmahmoud3769]

Angel Güereña agreed. I used the original MX Master and the 2s since they've both come out respectively, and the forward/back buttons were always definitely uncomfortably placed, particularly if you have larger hands, and cause some weird tension in the thumb due to the claw-like thumbing you end up having to do.

[@albertmcnugget]

Angel Güereña Same

[@wilz9388]

master 2s have a advantage of hurting more when you chuck it at someone due to added weight and pointy tip

[@baitboy3191]

Is it me or did Eber loose a shit tone of weight? looking good my man

[@smegmaz9388]

First time checking out a video in a while or what?

[@ne0nFACTory]

(Notices that Eber has slimmed down a lot.) Lyle Geese: That's not Eber... Eber has been replaced by the HC-1000 Ebernator!! !!! Listen and understand. That Ebernator is out there. It can't be reasoned with. It can't be bargained with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

[@OminousRain]

@@ne0nFACTory nice

[@MoAtwan]

@@ne0nFACTory my thought exactly

[@Dz-em2wl]

No way, he looks waaayyy too scrawny thin, but to be honest if he's happy the way he is then that's all that really should and does matter in the end anyway

[@EposVox]

I've ran with the MX Master 1, then the 2S and I don't care about any of the "new features" but I just hope they improved the main shell plastic. Both mice have basically melted under my hand.

[@VanguardDetonados]

i had the same problem with a G402. Now i'm using a Grey s2 for a few months, the problem is not there anymore. Might be worth a try for you.

[@SpookySkeletonGang]

Damn really? I've been using the MX master 1 pretty well since launch every day and apart from getting a bit of dirt on it that I need to clean off, the plastic is totally fine.

[@SA-bw1je]

Same with my mice (MX 1 & 2). I think the sun breaks them down, I can't think what else it could be.

[@toresagen7346]

Can you use this mouse as wired mouse with provided USB c cable only? Without using unifying connector or bluetooth.

[@FadiAlzammar]

@@toresagen7346 You couldn't with the older MX Masters, so I'd assume no

[@mikeoleksa]

I'm still using the OG MX Master. It still works just as good as the day I bought it, 3 years ago. Battery life hasn't even fallen off. The MX line is worth every penny!

[@ilhamakbar2695]

The mouswheel comparison blew my mind a bit

[@Allsurrender]

I think he forgot to release the lock on 2s...so its on rachet mode. (It will become fast if you apply enough force in rachet mode) I have a Orginal MX master, its nearly the same as 3 in case of wheel sound level.

[@imGerry123456]

@@Allsurrender he did release the lock and your MX isn't as fast or as smooth...

[@clayfaaborg9818]

Or as quiet..

[@markrobbins2441]

It was so gross

[@shrpnss]

The edge where the snakes live😂

[@aswells3]

This part killed me, I had to pause the video

[@noveled_1]

Mans actually watched the sponsor!

[@iambatman786]

The edge What edge *the edge where the snakes live...*

[@AbrahamLure]

Omg the scroll being silent is AMAZING! As someone working with huge spreadsheets every day, I am an aggressive scroller and it's sooo nice to finally have something that doesn't sound obnoxious

[@pedrosilvaproductions]

You actually are making a fair point

[@markrobbins2441]

That's the grossest thing I've seen on the internet since two girls

[@FunkyPants3D]

Ive been using my MX Master 1 for gaming over the past couple years and I think its more than fine if you dont play on pro level.

[@chasenthehype]

I actually prefer the heavier mice - I have a Razer Deathadder 2013, but I switched to this, and even with the weight, I really find myself performing better with that extra weight. Did not expect that at all. Plus working in Adobe CC and on multiple systems (Mac to PC and back) it's incredible.

[@WyvernDotRed]

I have no frame of reference of gaming mice, but my M705 is absolutely fine for the games I play.

[@ЕмилЕфендулов]

Gaming oriented hardware is hugely overrated. Contrary to popular belief, RGB RAM does NOT extend your killstreaks.

[@FinancialFaiz]

Great video. The 2S is retailing in my country for 270 vs. the 3 for 400. Ignore the currency. Your video does a good job highlighting the differences between the two mice I've been using a basic Logitech mouse and due for an upgrade. Sadly it is a difficult choice. I don't play FPS games and most of my computing time is for work. If only the 3 was not released, I wouldn't have to contemplate between the two

[@mega0schi]

i bought this mouse without testing or researching first. It's the best mouse I've bought since forever.

[@valentinoaditya2458]

Do you have scrolling issue? A lot of people say the middle scroll is unreliable.

[@ROADRAGE21]

5:48 I can, as a programmer you would need to scroll through hundreds of lines to find that one bug or to review something you wrote earlier, I would also imagine that as a writer or a lawyer you would also need to scroll a lot through your documents to go back to a certain page where you need to review something. it definitely improved my workflow a lot as a CS student.

[@juan_w_fer]

5:46 That's because when you buy this mouse (or the MX Anywhere, Anywhere 2S, MX Master 2S, or any mouse with free scrolling) the best thing you can do is go to Windows mouse settings and make the scrollwheel go ONE LINE at a time. Can't use a regular scrollwheel after that.

[@gaygekko]

Yo thanks for the tip! I'm using the OG Logitech G502, and I'm trying out the 'one line' feature now!

[@DarkPa1adin]

Using anywhere 2s on mac... Is there a feature like the Windows counterpart?

[@juan_w_fer]

@@gaygekko Np! keep it on for a few days and tell me wether it works well or nah

[@greenhat7618]

Here’s a sound test: No sound at all

[@trimbakk]

Every tech KZbinr: the mx master 3 is cheap Me: cries in Australian currency

[@renanmarcondess]

First world problems.

[@gustavobertoni1381]

We Brazilians feel you

[@zenihalt8004]

I can feel you as a Canadian

[@gustavobertoni1381]

@@zenihalt8004 you sure don't. Minimum wage in canada is 11CAD/hour. In Brazil is 6BRL/hour. But 1BRL = 0,242CAD.

[@zenihalt8004]

@@gustavobertoni1381 I was replying to Name's comment lol besides where i live in canada, the minimum wage is $12.50 CAD/hour

[@Sajeedislam]

To answer that question at 5:41 , Basically for coders is a great example for why this feature of free spin will very useful.

[@JohnnyElihue]

If any of you currently have a gaming mouse and are thinking of switching to this. DON'T DO IT. The "darkfield" sensor is VERY inconsistent for precise fine movements. Even a cheap gaming mouse is going to be a lot more accurate then this. Believe me I tried the MX master 2 because I wanted something more "adult" had to take it back because it didn't track well at all. And this mouse has the same sensor.

[@shadostorm8375]

Thanks for sharing the experience. I was thinking abt getting it over a gaming mouse :D

[@JohnnyElihue]

@@shadostorm8375 No problem! I really wanted to switch to this mouse. I loved some of the features. But this sensor is specifically built to be able to track on all kinds of surfaces, but as a result the sensor loses accuracy. I noticed it really bad when trying to do fine movements. I could never get the mouse to produce consistent results when trying to make movements that were around 1/4" or smaller (On a 1080p monitor).

[@bensthoughts2]

"why would someone need a crazy high-tech scroll wheel." I personally switch between both modes very frequently as I work. It would seem that not having to manually switch between modes would have some benefit for productivity as it saves you the extra click needed to switch between modes. For people who do not know this mouse, having both modes can give you a HUGE increase in productivity. The ability to flick the wheel and have it spin lets you fly down the page of long documents/code or zoom in/out of an image/model VERY fast and then stop exactly where you want to be. The smooth scroll also gives you the ability to have fine-grained control over where you zoom or scroll to, instead of being locked into specific increments (like a certain number of lines or distance) on each "ratchet" scroll. The "ratchet" mode lets you scroll through context menu's or precisely a few lines at a time on a document (like any other mouse would). At the end of the day, as an mx fan all the way back to the original I find this all to be very exciting. Thank you for reviewing and bringing this new version to light ;-)

[@DustinHuynher]

It seems like the reviewer didn't know about the ratchet and free spin mode or he didn't explain it very well

[@Kytetiger]

As someone who scrolls a lot in long Excel files, i approve

[@EnterpriseKnight]

99$ is purely a price Logitech put there, you're gonna eventually find this mouse for 50/70 bucks.

[@madd5]

it will be 70 at least though. Just like 2s.

[@Storebrand_]

This guy took economics.

[@MCOGroupNews]

@@Storebrand_ Help I'm scared! I can't understand how money works! AHHHHH!

[@TrueZtyleZ7]

I got the 2S for $40 on Prime Day. No way I was going to pass that up.

[@TheExtra40414]

TrueZtyleZ7 same. Love the S2

[@NE110M]

Finally, someone reviews this mouse as it should be reviewed .... Everyone else is ignoring that the MX2 had the same abilities, bit MX3 is more refined .. THANK YOU :D .. Now, What is the keyboard he is using ?? looks good...

[@vinko9.]

I am still rocking my MX Performance. It is the best mouse I have ever used and is still working great so I didn't have the need to upgrade to MX Master series. I had 2 problems with my microswitches, but I replaced them myself :)

[@nilespeterclemens8328]

Mouse looks like it’s from 2003 but it also looks like a simply, amazing, high quality mouse.

[@9SMTM6]

Hmm in mine the middle mouse click failed shortly after I got it, and the metal looking trims coloring wore off after like 2 or 3 years. Other than that it works well indeed, but I'll switch to the MX3 now, as I really want to use and get used to middle mouse guestures, they're pretty efficient for navigation at times (especially in the browser/other tab based applications with open links in new tab and close tab being on the middle mouse button).

[@vinko9.]

@@9SMTM6 did you return it for service? I believe it has 3 years warranty. Yeah, coloring faded a bit on mine too. I fixed my left click again 2 days ago :D

[@9SMTM6]

@@vinko9. yeah I'm pretty bad when it comes to claiming warranty repairs. The middle wheel did (and still does sometimes) work somewhat for a while, I didn't want to miss the mouse, and didn't really use the middle mouse button that much back then. And then I was out of warranty😅. Well, in the end I guess I'll be alright, I both can well afford a new mouse, even as pricey as this one, and believe I will profit well from the features of the MX3, expecially the horizontal scroll wheel and the Bluetooth functionality, and my Performance MX will become a backup and used for situations I wouldn't want to expose the MX3 too.

[@vinko9.]

@@9SMTM6 well, that's ok. I will still cling on my MX performance and I also won't have a problem financing new mouse such as MX Master 3. But my MX Performance works, and if it starts doing weird stuff like double-clicking etc, I can fix it by myself

[@JamesPotts]

The original Mx Master was one of the best purchases I've made. The auto scroll-wheel free-wheel mechanism is great when scrolling through code. My only complaint would be the weight, and the stupid forward/back button placement, which they finally appear to have fixed this time.

[@MineCrafterX1235]

Not gonna lie but the old MX master looks better

[@DivineFriedChicken]

mictony I know right?

[@kayburcky7146]

I hate the new design. The old one fits perfectly in my hand (have really big hands) and now it looks like they made it thinner...

[@rahmatmaulana4671]

yeahh lmao i have the 2s and i dont think i want to upgrade, the design is better

[@yezhacker]

It does, and looks bigger too (more ergonomic if you have big hands)

[@kysputnikable]

I think your lying 🤔

[@Keatononame13]

Bought this for a housewarming gift for my buddy who's been working from home on some shit travel mouse for a year. Instantly thought of your channel when I wanted a good review. Was not disappointed, neither will my buddy be. Thought it was pretty fucked up I was using a better mouse for gaming than he was using to make money. Much appreciated.

[@scheimong]

I'm still using my old OG MX Master. Works very well to this day. I love the new features of the 3, especially the larger thumb wheel, USB-C, and the software experience. But I still really like the looks of the 1 and 2. The pointy nose really looks much better than this. Bloody hell it looks like they took design inspiration from my right foot.

[@santoshkumari8662]

Bro how long did it took for the battery to die?

[@scheimong]

​@@santoshkumari8662 I no longer use it now, mostly due to alterations in occupation. But back when I stopped using it circa mid-2020, I could expect about 3-4 weeks of battery life.

[@travisc7506]

Just received mine direct from Logitech in Mid grey. I work with AutoCad and this has been a massive improvement over the G203 Prodigy mouse I was using before. Also I was able to get it for $89 using a 10% promo code that popped up through Honey. The stock levels are kind of low on these so it took a couple weeks to ship but it was worth it imo. It came fully charged out of the box ready to go as soon as I turned it on. The scroll wheel is great. Its virtually silent and even the clicks are quite quiet. I still feel like the back/forward buttons could be moved slightly further forward on the mouse. That way you could rock them back and forth without having to move your thumb but that's really nit picking to be honest. I used to experience some wrist and finger strain from long days of working in CAD. Using the MX Master 3 that strain is gone. Really a great mouse and worth the price if you ask me.

[@maxitobitsch2948]

About the Battery Percentage, since Windows 10 Ver. 1803 you can see the Battery Percentage in the Windows 10 Settings

[@cikopimo1400]

true

[@Xiao10101]

Bought the MX 1, MX2 and 2S, loved the design and functionality, could not stand how loud the scroll wheel was. Returned them all within a week... Finally they woke up and did something about that tractor sounding mouse wheel.

[@sethm3194]

I have had a Master 2s for 2 years. I love it. I especially love the free spin and the assignable buttons are great for video editing. I never use the ratchet mode, although if I had a Master 3 I might use it.

[@Loraine680]

Don't buy a MX3. I made the mistake to buy the MX Master 3, and after a few weeks of using it (allready out of the return period, so I remaind with it unfortunatelly), I realize that it was a mistake. Not only the price is huge (109 euro for it, versus MX Master 2S = 73 euro), but the main issue wit it (besides that it DOES NOT have ANY other or better features than MX Master 2S) is simple puted WORKING with it. It's narrower shape does NOT fit in my palm as MX Master 2S (wider) does. Furthermore, the BS "easy scroll wheel" feature which is used by Logitech as a reason for the 36 more euro (40 dollars), is pure BS. MX Master 2S has also 2 modes (as MX3) of the scrol wheel, and in the free scrolling mode, you don't hear ratteling either, except in the beginning (while MX3 is 100% silent), but that doesn't bother me, nor do I think is worth 40 dollars, beside the fact that working (years! Until it breakes) with a mouth which damadges (by intense/prolongued use) your hand (RSI problem) because it just DOES NOT FIT in your palm, is certainly a definite reason why men should buy the MX-2S in sted of MX3. The fact is that you don't see the difference in shape (and how important for you as IT worker is that!) unless you worked with it 2 or more weeks. In the shop, after feeling both models, you incline to believe that MX3 feels better. That changes in a few weeks at home, and you wil be SORRY. PS: The back and foreward buttons on MX-2S were place right there, but meant to be used with the side of your (mid position of it) thumb, NOT with the top of the finger as usual buttons are. That's why some think that the back and foreward buttons are "too far back", and they have to bend their thumb too far back.

[@AllanLaal]

thank you Loraine680, your comment should be pinned!

[@gmtmastertoo]

@@Loraine680 Wow, great feedback. People should see this. I recently bought the 3 to upgrade. Returned it and went back to the 2S.

[@timfreebern5096]

I literally just bought the MX Master 2 a couple of weeks ago for work (software developer). It came with all the out-of-the-box gestures for Mac. I love it. The only thing I don't care so much for are where the Forward and Backward buttons are located on the MX2. I don't see much of a reason to swap it out and upgrade though.

[@VforValenti]

We need something like g700! 4 thump buttons is the way to go. 2 for forward and back and another two to go left or right in browser tabs. Great for productivity!

[@Ataraxia_Atom]

I just replaced the switch on my g700. Best mouse ever

[@VforValenti]

@@Ataraxia_Atom I need too! How did you do it?

[@minhnguyenle5230]

Yeah my G700 still rocking, but that batterylife 🤪

[@VforValenti]

@@minhnguyenle5230 change the battery. Easy, just buy a new eneloop.

[@Ataraxia_Atom]

@@VforValenti I ordered new switches on amazon for like $7, and I got replacement slider things for the bottom, I took it apart and then just split the switch and put new internals into it, I saw a video you can just bend it out but I decided replacing it would last longer, and now I have 9 more switches for the future

[@indys425]

@Hardware Canucks At 5:43, you mention why someone would need an alternating scroll wheel. Think of someone browsing on Amazon using the smooth glide scroll and then using the tactile scroll for gaming so that when pressing the scroll wheel in (for macros, pings), it doesn't conflict with camera height!

[@BigDaddyLinux]

Thank you Eber for another great review. I have always loved the hyper fast scrolling in the logitech mice. I love some of the features of this mouse but I think I will stick with my favorite mouse, the Logitech G502

[@LittleWhole]

BigDaddyLinux G502 LIGHTSPEED gang

[@BigDaddyLinux]

LittleWhole Gaming I have the light speed mouse pad. I’m impatiently waiting until I can afford the light speed g502. Then I can be part of the “gang”

[@ewoutoffereins3380]

G502 awwwwwwYEA

[@IgorTFerreira]

Nice video! I have MX 2, it's a good mouse, but the position of lateral buttons is horrible, the new position is good but they sould add an extra button between the two... The best mouse of logitech is the old MX 1000 in my opinion, heavy duty battery and great buttons placement!

[@drutgat2]

Thanks very much for this review. A few weeks ago I bought a second MX Master (just the regular, older model) - the first one I have is still working although I had to do some surgery to repair it a while back. I love these mice, and would not have been able to predict how much easier they have made navigating various pieces of software for me, but the real attraction is that the MX Master almost completely got rid of the Repetitive Strain Injury in my right hand that I had been suffering for many years. Of course, too much use will cause pain - with me, that usually means a small blister on my thumb, caused by the left-right scroll wheel, but that seldom happens.

[@StuartsTRAVELvideos]

Thanks for the review and comparison with the MX 2S. 👍

[@johannes_lee9351]

It's objectively better, but I actually think they downgraded in looks.

[@utubekullanicisi]

They chose function over form, but I like the new horizontal scroll wheel better. It looks more expensive now

[@YKDSGN]

It looks sleeker and cleaner now. The side buttons on the 2s were a total fail.

[@Ouss-2077]

that's just due to the color

[@Cilghal001]

@@YKDSGN Could they be placed somewhere else? Hell yea. Was it a total fail? Hell no. I mean, you get used to it and then it's like any other forw/back button.

[@YKDSGN]

@@Cilghal001 I mean they are too tiny and ergonomics is just off (especially for longer fingers). Can't imagine not having any health issues after daily 8 hours usage in the long run. Just feels like form won over function with that one.

[@brightglaive1]

Eber forgot the thumb click. There is a thumb switch in the thumb pad that has functionality too. In the master 2s the default function is the program switcher.

[@Pwasercan]

why can't they give it a sensor that's good for gaming? Is there any technical reason other than "just so that no product is perfect, so they will keep buying future products"??

[@Iamallwaysright1]

Why isn't it good for gaming :o

[@bmbmunoz2]

battery life

[@markrobbins2441]

It's like buying a skill saw

[@NitroBurner]

The issue I've heard a lot about is that the scrolling can be inaccurate and not register your scrolling at irregular points (possibly linked to the whole magnet based build of the scroll). No youtube reviews I've seen seem to address it, so I'm not even sure if it is that big an issue or nitpicking.

[@shapeshifter150]

It is a huge issue. I can't believe it's not adressed. Feels like sponsorship or something. It's a major issue for real.

[@89DerChristian]

Great review! Just ordered one for myself. Main advantage for me is: - Switch between multiple devices by the press of a button (I can't use their software on my work laptop, but that's the next best thing) - High functionality with buttons and the scroll wheel I intend to use it mostly for productivity and a little bit for casual gaming

[@MsFxtrdr]

I still have the first edition of MX Performance. I use it for everything including gaming. Still going strong. Not even the paint came off. I still find it to be the most comfortable mouse I ever bought.

[@ЕмилЕфендулов]

Really? Mine lost the logo on the palmrest almost immediately and the text underneath is pretty much gone. Apart from that and some expected wear on the rubber it's still looking pretty descent tho.

[@CASMANWHAT]

"Why would someone need a hyperscroll wheel?" Programmers and scrolling through their text editors.

[@scootndute579]

I'm a dev and I just returned mine. Has very unpredictable control when you scroll up and down quickly, and not like doing the flywheel spin but actual normal every day controlled scrolls just didn't always register correctly.. very frustrating after a while. Also Google it, it's a thing

[@Virlo]

@@scootndute579lol people say it’s good etc.. what do you use now?

[@inclinedscorpio]

@@scootndute579 should I go for 2s ?

[@DominicMuir]

I've been looking for a sound test everywhere on this new scroll wheel - thank you so much!

[@lowzyyy]

Still using mx performance 😃 That keyboard looks nice to me

[@Cilghal001]

I absolutely love my Mx Master 2S. I am no content creater nor graphic designer. Simply non of that. I am a noob who enjoys playing video games like BF 4, some RTS games and WoW. So, whoever is thinking something like "hey, that mouse is too big, too heavy" I must say that it's super comfy. :D And I was sceptical about the battery life, but as you said I also maybe charge charge it once every 2-3 months and I use the mouse daily for at least 5 hours, sometimes 15... :D Money well spent.

[@jsuwangsa]

they need to give mx series the lightspeed connection too

[@thomas_wu]

it's not a gaming mouse, unnecessary.

[@Kakarott201089]

This was a to-the-point comparison. I have made my decision to go for MX2s as it is available at a better price in India than MX3 and has all the required feature. A big thumbs up and thank you.

[@willchen9014]

I use a 2S daily at work, and finally got around to checking out the 3 at Best Buy the other day. The biggest difference between the two has to be the quality of the scroll wheel. I use the scroll wheel heavily for CAD everyday and I've never really had any complaints about it on the 2S, but with the 3 it's just on another level. Firstly it's slightly lighter to press, which does make a difference if you use middle click all the time, and the all-metal construction of the wheel gives it a nice bit of weight and a very premium feel even compared to the 2S. The scroll action is quieter, but more notably the transition between ratchet and free spin is smoother and feels more natural. The overall shape of the 3 is very similar to the 2S, Logitech didn't reinvent the wheel here. However, the 3 feels slightly taller or perhaps has more of a tilted top like the MX Vertical, so I suppose it technically is easier on the wrist. It does feel very similar to hold compared to the 2S, so if you loved/hated the 2S, the new one isn't going to change your mind. The rearranged forward/back buttons and side-scroll wheel on the 3 should be a nice improvement for most people. The buttons are now in a very natural position, but I would say that it has slightly sacrificed the ergonomics of the side-scroll wheel since that has now been moved up and further away from the thumb rest. But if you rarely use the side-scroll I doubt it would bother you. I would consider upgrading to the 3 just for the improved scroll wheel because it is something I use quite a lot as a professional. If I hadn't already bought the 2S and was contemplating between the two, I would definitely go with the 3 even if there's a $30-40 price difference. But despite how nice the 3 is, I haven't really gotten my money's worth from the 2S just yet, so I think I'll stick to what I've got for now and maybe give the 3 another look when it's on sale.

[@mrmcallum]

Nice comments. I wish other people gave such constructive criticism ... .

[@roshaanshamim18]

I bought Mx Anywhere 2s, and got shocked that scroll wheel can't work as middle mouse button and now this mouse is useless for me. Can you confirm me that MX Master 3 has middle mouse button in scroll wheel? I am a heavy CAD and 3ds max user and I can't live my life without middle mouse button on scroll wheel.

[@willchen9014]

@@roshaanshamim18 yes I can confirm that the MX Master 3 has a middle click button, a very good one actually.

[@jettcadet]

Just bought mine and love it! First expensive mouse - can’t see myself ever going back.

[@HiTechLoLife]

WOW that Master 2S is way louder compared to the Master 3

[@ChrisT-ib1zh]

Scrolling, Yes. Clicking, NO! :(

[@Kudagraz]

No it's not way louder. Not sure why every youtube is messing this up. MX Master has 2 scroll settings. Ratchet and smooth. Smooth is comparable to the 3.

[@letslachflash]

@@Kudagraz except its not. The Master 3 is like way smoother in booth settings. The difference is not as drastic in the free spin but still kinda massive as far as i concern. I have both and first just bought it for the usbc and new bottoms but after using the scroll wheel is a massive bonus

[@Kudagraz]

​@@letslachflash That is prob true but comparing the ratchet setting to the smooth scroll of the 3 is disingenuous.

[@letslachflash]

@@Kudagraz yeah thats for sure

[@randallsmith2521]

$99 isn't bad for a tool you will use for years. I purchased a Kensington Expert Mouse trackball several years ago that I still use. It cost me $90. It was a good investment.

[@wailali5646]

So funny when you started taking about gaming with this mouse hahaha. Great video as usual

[@spacedoohicky]

I've had the original MX Master for years. It's still going strong. It was an amazing change. I've been scrolling like a maniac ever since I got it. Pages with partial load while scrolling.go crazy.

[@aidancomi]

I currently have an original MX Master. Would you recommend upgrading to a MX Master 3?

[@khomchat1]

Aidan Comi if you have the money and on your computer a lot then yes.

[@mrpabs5864]

My 5 years old mx master 1 finally gave up today. I just bought both the keyboard and the mouse mx master 3. Watching this video while working out so that when I get to the office I can set everything up easily.

[@jirihorsky9600]

My Mx master 2s just stopped working after 13 months. Coincidence? I dont think so!

[@ph00ny1]

oddly enough three of my logitech gaming mice have developed double click on single click right after warranty expired. RIP

[@Dudeness1994]

Same i had to open mine up and still don't know where the problem is (it works but i pull slightly on the internal cable)

[@fucksereinstrucotrs1711]

Jiří Horský my g703 mouse scroll wheel stopped working , they replaced it with a 150$ g903 and shipped it with two day shipping , Logitech are the real g’s🙌

[@LuisC7]

@@fucksereinstrucotrs1711 Really? So many people saying shit about their mice breaking just after the warranty ends, but they did just that?

[@JABelms]

@@LuisC7 Mostly just isolated cases, there are millions of Logitech products out there still being used. As for me I have 15 Logitech products in my household and only two has failed yet (A Proteus Core while working properly fine...the rubber grips just melted as time went on) Even my G930 from 2011 has been repaired by Logitech Philippines 2 times for free since 2016 and it's still being used to this day perfectly. my 2017 Logi G102 has been beaten over and over in R6 Siege (500 hours in) and it still worked perfectly that I bought the wireless version recently. Note that its past its warranty and is a $25 product :/ my cheapest mouse but fits well in my hand

[@randseedbin9440]

I've been using an MX Master since 2015 and just recently noticed that the scroll wheel would no longer ratchet and the battery needed recharging much more frequently. I was about to order a 2S when I saw your video and am SO glad I did. My MX Master 3 should arrive tomorrow. Thanks!

[@nigletthediglet4891]

how do you find the size??

[@randseedbin9440]

@@nigletthediglet4891 It's a bit smaller but I quickly got use to it. So far it seems to be my favorite mouse since the first one in 1986.

[@nigletthediglet4891]

​@@randseedbin9440 i am going to go for the 2s in that case, I want something girthy to grip onto. thanks boomer

[@rlam905]

They should make one with a sensor suitable for gaming.

[@cameronabshire1195]

Not even a sensor, just throw a lightspeed receiver in it.

[@ClarkWells]

Umm... they do. Logitech G Pro Wireless, G703, G903, G502 with HERO sensors. They are the best wireless gaming mice on the planet right now.

[@YKDSGN]

@@ClarkWells Unfortunately they get reported for many wheel issues. $150 for a mouse with garbage basic croll wheel is just plain stupid. Give me this ergonomics and construction within 100-110g and I'll give you my money.

[@ejramirezf]

dude mx masters suffered from a broken piece of plastic that enabled the smooth scrolling and made the buyer have to open the mouse and fix it. Maybe that's the most important reason why they changed it for that magnetic system

[@sidghotane2670]

watching this video as i sit here with my $10 mouse and keyboard bundle from amazon

[@DzinkyDzink]

It probably costed more to store and ship.

[@kloikos]

Best MX 3 Review! - and I've read dozens. Great visual compliment to your voice-over. I subscribed to your channel today, and I'm buying a MX 3 tomorrow. Thanks!

[@TeknoSquirrel]

Wow, didn't expect to learn how a scroll wheel works. This is a great review.

[@lcadigitalmedia]

the free spin is very helpful in macos. I currently have it where the free spin mode activates when you scroll fast but switches back to ratchet mode when it slows down.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

I have been interested in one of those MX Master devices for a while. I have heard that it is phenomenal for working with video editing apps. (:

[@Loraine680]

I made the mistake to buy the MX Master 3, and after a few weeks of using it (allready out of the return period, so I remaind with it unfortunatelly), I realize that it was a mistake. Not only the price is huge (109 euro for it, versus MX Master 2S = 73 euro), but the main issue with it (besides that it DOES NOT have ANY other or better features than MX Master 2S) is simple puted: WORKING with it. It's narrower shape does NOT fit in my palm as MX Master 2S (wider) does. Furthermore, the BS "easy scroll wheel" feature which is used by Logitech as a reason for the 36 more euro (40 dollars), is pure BS. MX Master 2S has also 2 modes (as MX3) of the scrol wheel, and in the free scrolling mode, you don't hear ratteling either, except in the beginning (while MX3 is 100% silent), but that deosn't bother me, nor do I think is worth 40 dollars, beside the fact that working (years! Until it breakes) with a mouth which damadges (by intense/prolongued use) your hand (RSI problem) because it just DOES NOT FIT in your palm, is certainly a definite reason why men should buy the MX-2S in sted of MX3. The fact is that you don't see the difference in shape (and how important for you as IT worker is that!) unless you worked with it 2 or more weeks. In the shop, after feeling both models, you incline to believe that MX3 feels better. That changes in a few weeks at home, and you wil be SORRY. PS: The back and foreward buttons on MX-2S were place right there, but meant to be used with the side of your (mid position of it) thumb, NOT with the top of the finger as usual buttons are. That's why some think that the back and foreward buttons are "too far back", and they have to bend their thumb too far back.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Loraine680 WoW! That’s a lot of info there. Did you use the mice in Windows, Linux, Mac OS, or...???

[@Loraine680]

@@WarriorsPhoto No. Only Windows and Mac.

[@Loraine680]

@@WarriorsPhoto Be carefull that Logitch cheat you blind also by the color of the mouse. On the box you see a total different color (I have the so called "mid grey") than the actual mouse in the box. On the box you see 2 beatiful metallic grey shades. In fact the mousr is licht grey, a lich colour alover. No "mid gray"😉, no 2 shades. Very ugly in reality. That goes for other Logitech mouses, like the blue one, a beatiful dark turqoise color on the box, while the mouse is darkgrey blue. A dead blue color. Mega ugly. The shops also advertise that fake nonexisting color, on both mouses described above, pictutes gotton from Logitech.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

@@Loraine680 Hey, thank you for the info. Much appreciated that I'll be able to use it with either Windows or Mac OS'. Now, to test drive it and see what happens. (:

[@joaquindiaz5962]

The most complete review for the MX Master 3 KZbin!

[@business_boburin]

A simple - MUST HAVE! 🔥💕

[@HifiCentret]

Scroll wheels are probably the most underrated feature on a mouse! Especially for coders and others who have the need to quickly go though a lot of lines. I typically just leave the wheel on free spin and have no issues controlling the scroll wheel. With the master 3 things might be different but I have yet to try it. Can be I buy one as prices have come down a little. A lot of companies really need to wake up. All too often you only get a standard mouse and keyboard. Whlie the keyboard might be discount but fine the mouse really makes a difference. It's just so much less mental efford scrolling with a good scroll wheel than one that screams 1998 - and way faster and more precise too than using the scroll bar. Personally I'm fine with the M720 but at home I might upgrade to the Master 3 in the near future. If only they made silent versions of them. Or perhaps if the switched are standard sized they can be switched out. I once replaced the switches in an M705 (older version) as the original ones were failing and the mouse wasn't worn out. The switches I got from other unused mouses that the company throwed out but switches turned out to be better quality than was originally in the M705. So overall it only cost me some cheap chinese replacement pads to repair the M705. Incidentally I find the chinese pads better than the original ones too. Real teflon in contrast to the original ones.

[@Mike0193Azul]

I just wish it had silent mouse pressing instead of the loud clicks.

[@ArgonPW]

The explanation about the electromagnets in the scroll wheel is incorrect. There is actually never any contact between the teeth. If that was true you'd end up with grinding and metal shavings coming off the wheel, ultimately leading to permanent free spin. Rather the polarity determines the magnetic circuit. When in ratchet mode the magnetic circuit is passing between both inner and outer wheel, so the user must overcome the magnetic force that is keeping the teeth aligned. This is what creates the ratchet feel. In free spin, the magnetic circuit is contained entirely within the inner wheel, which results in zero magnetic forces between the inner and outer teerh, thus allowing zero resistance to the user which feels like free spin

[@hay9741]

I like how he said that you don't pay a premium for a mouse at 99 dollars but the 99 dollar keyboard is pricy , knowledge .

[@0404brad]

I use the MX 2S with MX Keys at home and am stuck with a basic Dell setup at work where I'm a DBA and spend a lot of time scrolling through SQL scripts and endless rows of data. I tried my MX 2S on my work computer Monday and was blown away by how much more productive I was. I was thinking about picking up the MX 3 for home and bringing my MX 2S in for work.

[@darkoss992]

I Feel so tired of titles "I'm switching"

[@phma.3586]

Happy they changed the thumb rest button, it was a serious design issue before. Once it got mushy, you often wouldn't be able to move your cursor anymore. If this happened to you, try to push this button upwards, sometimes this helps.

[@cilantromc331]

7:40 Just *buy* it!

[@vdochev]

I work 10 hours a day in an office and my work involves lots of copy-pasting and often times side-scrolling through excel sheets. I'm using an MX Master and the difference between it and a regular mouse is huge! I got to the point that I can't even touch a regular mouse for doing work.

[@victoriakanagavelan4853]

how do you use the mouse for copy and pasting? ◡̈

[@maxzett]

Hmmm... 65€ with corporate benefits.... I dont need it but i want it xD

[@L39T]

no

[@derjokermaaan]

60€ if you use the code 5€LOGI

[@KARMAkazeMoto]

Eber, you've mastered the art of speaking to the lens. It's as if you're having a face-to-face discussion with an old friend. Very at ease. Just wanted to share a quick compliment. 👍🙂 Meanwhile, I'm now discussed with my very basic 2-button mouse. 😕 Keep up the good work!

[@HeTianHeng]

3 looks unsexy AF. I'm gonna keep my beloved 2S till the end of days

[@mickyr171]

I agree lol, i like the side buttons but thats about it lol, the 2S is awesome as

[@mickyr171]

The only thing i hate about the 2S is the charging plug, bit dicky to plug in so the USB-C may make it worth the transition

[@HeTianHeng]

@@mickyr171 OMG, I always thought the thing with the charging plug was just my incompetence haha But for me it is such a minor inconvenience since the battery lasts forever anyway 🤷‍♂️

[@mickyr171]

@@HeTianHeng same here mate haha, looked it up and found alot of people hates the plug, bit buggy when plugging in

[@tilerman]

I'm really pleased Logitech moved the battery charge light to a better more visible position. I Always found it SOOO difficult and so much hassle and hardship to move my thumb tip for a nano second to check battery charge level.

[@sangamon5787]

3:15 Almost wanted to start tapping my foot 🎵

[@CiafiHOLIC]

For some reason I find your voice calming. Like I'm listening to an audiobook. Nice review by the way. Been thinking to upgrade from 2s to mx master 3. Thanks!

[@DeZiio]

i just want a gaming mouse that doesn't wake up my whole house

[@shilo.5087]

DeZiio this is not a gaming mouse though

[@DeZiio]

s h i l o. That’s why I want one foo 😩

[@FrankAlfani]

I really love my Master 2s! It's great to see this upgrade even though I don't see myself getting one any time soon. The forward and back button changes are definitely the best part of it and that was always my only gripe about my 2s.

[@TheClicheGaming]

“Highly recommend against using this for gaming” ...end of review; “By the way guys this has replaced my gaming mice” ? Contradiction bro..

[@iFireender]

Well, using a gaming mouse is something different from actually gaming. I like using gaming input peripherals too for work, because they just work better. No rubber dome keyboard can come close to a feel and 'cripness' of writing on a mechanical keyboard with blues - or in case of my workspace, browns; random shittty cheap mice feel super unprecise compared to a good gaming mouse. On my pc at home where I also game, I use a gaming mouse. On all other pcs, laptops etc, I use MX Master mice, because they feel great too. Difference being that the MX Master feels kinda 'off' for gaming, or at least my 2S does.

[@DogHairDontCare]

Not a contradiction. He admits to being a casual gamer. Also it really only matters if you're playing FPS games or something where you'll notice the jittery movements like on a 144hz monitor, because the polling rate on the MX master 3 is lower. It's still a crazy good productivity mouse, and I have one in addition to my gaming mouse. It's definitely a good get when on sale.

[@alialbather6116]

great review man 😊 Feedback for Logitech: add a second left click and call the "Master Shift" and also add 12 buttons under the horizontal scroll wheel and ad tilt buttons to the vertical wheel EDIT: and a pixart 3360 sensor and I'm willing to pay 250$ for it.

[@WellFedProductions]

Tilt button wheel for sure! It's the only reason I don't use one...

[@kristianbrasel]

Am I the only one that was perfectly happy with the previous back/forward buttons? Sad to see them move.

[@persechini]

my 2S scroll wheel is kept in free mode and I'm spoiled for it to the point I don't think I can ever be happy with a mouse without it. Nonetheless the magnetic switching of modes seems interesting, as the switching noise on the 2S was what put me off in the first place

[@dwirandypradhika6752]

I thought it's a Dimitry video, and I was like "wtf csgo with mx?"

[@LavaLord64]

I think the virtually silent magspeed scroll wheel is well worth the upgrade if you work in open office settings and your coworkers complain about the loud hyper-fast scrolling on some of the other logitech models. Switched from the M720 to the MX Master 3 - I don't think I could ever go back.

[@CrythornMadness]

Shame that alot of users get laggy response times, it will constantly go into some sort of moronic power saving mode if not touched for like 1 second, thus meaning when it wakes it up jumps around like a grasshopper! Might want to go read the MX master 3 forum/support tickets before you buy this mouse people! (im literally using a logi G700s next to the damn mx master 3 due to the fact it doesn't have the same issues!) Oh and the MX master 3 has an INBUILT battery, so when it finally loses its ability to charge *like all rechargeable batteries do* you basically can never use it wireless ever again! EDIT. I tried watching the software when this mouse is in our, the connected light and charge lights go off! its not even laggy its disconnecting! This mouse is a complete joke! Dont listen to some one thats probably paid to "review it".

[@LouisChiaki]

The scrolling got a lot of issue... It randomly miss some scrolling motion... Also, the bluetooth mode has a slightly higher latency compared to the USB receiver mode.