Lolita reacts to a student made documentary

[@ladiesngerms]

The second I saw the word ‘lolicon’ I knew this was gonna be a.... trip

[@hmmmshmmm8510]

My thing is how is anyone supposed to know "lolicon" was a joke with no context? You can say "relax it's a joke" but I think if you're trying to make a proper documentary you should show some level of respect to the people you're making a doc about and do your best not to misrepresent them

[@Quario]

The "it's just a prank bro" card is what you play once you fucked up and want to avoid some backlash

[@kingofarkansas2710]

It is always a bad sign whenever someone disables the comments on a video

[@lestatangel]

Pretty damn obvious that video was catching a lot of flak, lol.

[@casssimons9319]

Yeah

[@novidsnosubs9758]

Unless it’s on a video where someone is coming out or telling a very personal story or something, in which case it may be because they do not feel ready to have people critique or talk about it as they are still sensitive to the topic, which is understandable, but in other cases, yes definitely haha

[@cat9104]

i'm a 16 y/o male who has almost no interest in doing lolita myself but seeing all the ins and outs of it is so interesting, i watch you and tyler religiously you two are just so fun to watch and i just cannot get enough of either of you! keep doing everything you're doing.

[@ramisabashar7217]

An 18 y/o girl here, and I feel the same! Lor's just so "lovely" and Tyler's content is so unique that I'm compelled to watch and learn

[@nikiiannarone7149]

Lol.. I'm a 38 y/o woman and I feel the same way! LOL.. That's awesome, for real..

[@hunhun1164]

Same, well I’m not a 16 yo male but I strangely like watching these videos even though I don’t want to wear lolita myself

[@berrybunnyprince811]

Now I'm curious about what happened at the con with Angelic Pretty.

[@lunashadow9942]

Saaaame; does anyone know?

[@jemma_mae_]

Lor!! Why don't you make your own lolita documentary??

[@harleyquinn-qh4pe]

Cause she's not a Lolita 😐

[@YanneMoreira]

@@harleyquinn-qh4pe she doesn't have to be one to make a documentary on the fashion. But also, she does wear lolita fashion

[@amandaholm8305]

@@harleyquinn-qh4pe how is she not a lolita?

[@momopies12]

@@harleyquinn-qh4pe She is a Lolita.

[@aquagamer1212]

She did make one, she showed a pic of it in the beginning. At least I’m pretty sure that’s hers.

[@glassedplanets]

wow, seeing that 2010-era hair and makeup was TRULY wild and reminded me that learning about lolita/visual kei/j-fashion from a friend back then is what kickstarted me into wearing (winces) scene fashion........... so much of my inspiration back in 08/09/10 was drawn from deco styles. i'd wear jewels on my face to school 4 days out of 5, bright makeup, glitter everywhere, giant hair, the whole nine yards. and thinking back, there really was a lot about scene fashion that was like a weird lovechild between western emo/goth/etc and elements of j-fashion - everyone wore hello kitty everything, lmao, but specifically i feel like there was a lot of overlap with vis kei and deco elements (but maybe that was just me - i'm from socal too and i feel like lots of different fashions get a lot of visibility here). anyways, this was a really cool time capsule-esque video, and it was nice to see another positive documentary! also, the secret to jewels on your face is eyelash glue, and applying them after foundation but before powder :B

[@princepoirier7869]

Anyone have tea on what happened to make Angelic Pretty never want to go back to California?

[@Brujoneja]

Omg I wanna know too

[@alliefoster4942]

Same here

[@hunhun1164]

Didn’t angelic pretty also sign a model from California when they were here? (Coming from safiya’s channel)

[@Ose93]

You know, I'm pretty sure they called it Lolicon because they were making a documentary about lolitas at a con. So they thought it was clever to make it that double meaning. Honestly, this documentary was fine. You can tell it wasn't professionally done, but they didn't try baiting the lolitas into saying they were living dolls or anything to that effect. If only they didn't go for that "clever" joke in the title, I think they wouldn't have had to disable comments and this would have been only seen in a positive way. D:

[@Keirabug]

I was thinking the same thing! I can see that they probably did mean “lolicon” as in “Lolita convention” but with a jokingly clever double meaning. I can also see how it’s disturbing to imagine anyone outside of the Lolita community seeing that title and not getting the cleverness and thinking something else. Either way, the documentary itself was so nostalgic~

[@felinedreamer1685]

Like I think the issue was that when people complained about the joke they probably just said "lolol its a joke" instead of maybe explaining what they meant. Maybe putting it as a pined comment (was that even a thing when the vid was posted?) or in the description.

[@hunhun1164]

Oh that makes sense

[@v4mpb3rry]

At first when I saw "lolicon" I thought it was the name of some lolita fashion convention... guess not 😅

[@brokensiren]

me too :'))

[@blushface]

you're not alone, friends. hahaha

[@hunhun1164]

In Japanese lolicon is short for lolita complex (and this lolita means the book lolita)

[@javencummins1426]

Same

[@glittabones]

Ah, simpler times! 😊 I wore lolita (specifically EGL) from mid-2005 to 2008 and these are the sort of people I remember seeing on Livejournal, haha!

[@LovelyLor]

definitely livejournal vibes!!! I have another episode coming soon that also carries this vibe ;)

[@glittabones]

@@LovelyLor Oh, you tease, haha! Can't wait to see it! 💕

[@materialhell]

I cannot wait!

[@hunhun1164]

Ah livejournal, love those times. I was looking at gyaru fashion back then... i don’t know if that still exists now

[@leadandelion5127]

@@hunhun1164 Gyaru gals still exist, there was renewed interest as fresh people discovered various styles during the retro nostalgia wave in major media and clothing brands. It is cause by older people who have influence reminiscing about their youth so there are movies made and everyday items and clothes made looking retro but being modernized so it catch interest of new groups and since lots of it also featured in j-fashions, gyaru, visual kei and lolita got new people out of his wave of interest. But it is true also for western fashions, the retro fashions of all decades and even music based styles got lots of fresh blood and whole new communities emerged where previously it was few people.

[@bexthewitch87]

Agreed! Decent documentary. Could use some different phrasing and such....but other than that pretty good as a whole. I want to see you react to more positive stuff too! Like old Deerstalker vids :)

[@LovelyLor]

there's a long list I'm covering and I'm going to try to mix it up! No worries!

[@manicpixienightmare_]

@@LovelyLor I'd love if you reviewed The Secret Life of The Lolita.. that stuff's classic!

[@evancross9787]

okay but can we talk about how nice her makeup looks here??? Her base is so smooth and the foundation is like the perfect shade wow

[@vimerveilles]

Now I really want to know what happened at pmx with AP

[@snaildoggys]

you should react to the 100% hotter series, specifically the one with Caspian in it. the way they treated them when they were in Fairy Kei was absolutely horrid. they said they were dressed like a toddler and if they were ready for a nappie ;; - ;; Hhhh,, it was so sad. they said you’ll get over this someday, but they still post fairy kei on their Instagram so more power to Lolita’s 💖🙏💗 love your videos, sorry if this was long ! ^ ^u

[@kaitokei8687]

You should really react to the show 100% hotter. A girl that wears kawaii fashion goes on one of the episode and it's..really something. PUH-LEASE check it out *-*

[@OkamiRose]

Cherry Kei Not to mention that other girl later on with the badass alternative fashion model that they belittle!

[@foodham3277]

I'm pretty sure the "girl" you're talking about is non-binary/transmasculine (I know because he is on KZbin and Instagram) but even if he was female the way he was treated for wearing fairy Kei was not good and I do agree lovely lor should react to that episode.

[@kikinoir]

As someone who has been on the show it I can vouch for the aggressive inaccuracies, you can specifically tell them "hey this isn't a costume" have them say they won't say that, edit out you asking them not to do that and do it anyway :))) love it

[@Muse041]

I know a girl who went on in lolita and it really rubbed me the wrong way I would not consider her a lolita, I think she has like 2 dresses but she hasn't worn a co-ord since that time from what I remember and I vaguely remember her selling one of her dresses..? She basically went on to be in a "weird" fashion to be "fixed" and even if it was just some fun to her I felt like it was unfair on anyone who likes that fashion Say someone new to lolita saw that and immediately felt like a weirdo that needed to be fixed? That's just not cool :/

[@kaitokei8687]

No yeah you're right they where non-binary. I had watched that so long ago I didn't remember that since everything about that show is just a blur to me at this point :/. There where several instances too where they completely ignored the people's preferences (like I know there was another androgynous person whom they made cut their hair and then they just dressed them masculine? Even though they very Specifically said theyre style was androgynous?) But yeah

[@olivinhaolivetti]

I’m loving this series!

[@purikiss9912]

Face jewels are definitely coming back, although I think shaped glitters are currently ruling. That's what AP had us put on for their fashion show at Anime North this past year, but I wore some small jewels too and they seemed to like it!

[@mittfh]

Meanwhile, Barcroft have released yet another variation-on-a-theme-of-Lolita video in their "Hooked on the Look" series - a Finn who varies between Sweet Lolita, Rococo and hybrids of the two (with the possibly dubious title of "Living as an 18th Century Lolita").

[@Otanaon]

Lor, translators only work on written documents, what you meant to say is an interpreter, who works in a more on-site way like conferences or live interviews.

[@LovelyLor]

I had no idea! thanks for the info

[@materialhell]

I got into Lolita fashion back in the livejournal days when Doe Deere (yes of Lime Crime) had this group for lolita fashion. This was like over 10 years ago btw. She was known as a scammer back then for her ebay auctions (back when she thought she was a fashion designer).

[@kirakiraclover7050]

I understand the joke behind "lolicon" because it showed lolitas at a convention, but using the word still is AAAAAHHHHH

[@Nazgath]

Really enjoying this new series, I think I never really commented here but wanted to share my thanks and support. I'm pretty much goth all through, a weird mixed influence between mori, pagan and new wave, yes I know, wtf, lol, but I really enjoy the way you present your style, your own views and the teaching component. I think its key for every fashion and person to have that connection and understanding, I really enjoy j-fashion and had my j-rock moments in the past, this bring me back in a good sense. You're very good and consistent in terms of who you are, what you explain and how to present your message about lolita and kawai fashion in general. I wish you the best of luck and I hope I can continue to enjoy more of your videos

[@lestatangel]

lolicon... that's the first time I ever heard the word. Thanks for bringing me up to speed! Great video by the way!

[@TheStitchess]

Reminds me of thing I would have binge watched when I was in high school

[@beedee3591]

Borders still exists in the UAE! There is one in a mall in Dubai, but the store also functions as a toy store, crafting supplies, and notebooks.

[@LovelyLor]

I had no idea! that's so cool! My next question is, IS THERE FRUITS AND GOTHIC LOLITA BIBLES THERE? Is there books on J-Fashion?

[@beedee3591]

@@LovelyLor I haven't really checked honestly. I've glanced around at the magazine sections and it's either U.S. magazines or their own. Last time I was in the store, there wasn't even manga sold. I'll be going there this March and I'll look for anything with j-fashion!

[@hind__]

@@beedee3591 I don't think I've ever seen anything like that there, even in the bigger stores :( I feel like a better place to look in general in Dubai would be Kinokuniya. But they downgraded the store kind of... aaaaaaa why

[@beedee3591]

@@hind__ Ah, I'm not really familiar with Kinokuniya tbh. Whenever I comet to the UAE I tend to mostly stay in Abu Dhabi. Maybe there's a store there I can try to look into? Idk what's there, I haven't been back since Ramadan.

[@evieisamarshmallow]

omg yellow hair looks SO GOOD on you!!!! i love 💕💕💕

[@kawaiikingb]

Yas, we stan BB and B Deco. 💖 I love your coord in this video~ and I love this series! I learn so much and discover new channels to watch documentaries.

[@ThatCMonster]

I WAS AT THAT CON, and eventually moved on to be a fashion programming planner (with Liz) there! As an ice age Lolita myself this was a great a trip...except for the “cheeky” title 🙄

[@stwabunny]

reminds me of when i was in 9th grade, pouring over GLBs at bookstores, wishing i was older so i could buy brand, and now im an adult who is able to buy brand and im nostalgic for those times!!

[@Toxihex]

I think the lolicon thing could work as a joke if it was within a lolita exclusive board or forum where everyone automatically knows what it is and that it's obviously ironic, but yea, in a documentary that's supposed to be teaching you about it it, it doesn't really work.

[@asianangel1905]

Please react to yami kawaii documentary by refinery29 🤔

[@mallagrancosplay2218]

Lor!! Your makeup looks amaziiing

[@marysopworth1371]

Listening to Lovely Lor and sewing Lolita headpieces, it’s a nice night ☺️

[@rustyspatula7641]

Love your videos! 💗

[@ivyshack7310]

Does anyone know what happened to Angelic Pretty at the expo that one year?

[@zentember]

thanks for this react video! with momoko you mention she lives the ideal lolita lifestyle but she seems to be the only lolita wearing it in a rural place which she laments about, so maybe it's not as ideal as one might think? we did a book club on it with other lolitas so this topic came up-- lolitas and isolation, i suppose.

[@karlap.monroig6355]

P-L-Easeeee whoever knows why AP wouldn't come back spill the tea. Let's correct the mistake so they come back.

[@AlexaKissLive]

I love when you go over documentaries! Do you more of these please💕☺️

[@kayleighfuria819]

Yay I actually got a notification for this video! Usually I don't get my notifications until 2-3 hours later lol. Especially happy it's a Lovely Lor video because she's lovelyyyy 💕

[@digimaui]

Ah yes walking around Borders as a tween/teen really was formative in a lot of ways....the good old days lol

[@allyspock]

good vid, and also your makeup is looking so good in this!!

[@purpleray9406]

What wig is that? 😍😍😍😍 and god you’re gorgeous ❤️ keep doing what you’re doing, keep inspiring people, and keep being amazing.

[@suzannepaxton6087]

I really love your videos!

[@EmilyRafferty]

I am loving the new format of your channel! I want more more more! Lovely lor is awesome! 🤩💖🥰

[@hannaholson4999]

"This is just water, but it should be tea." Yessssssssss☆♡☆♡☆♡☆♡☆

[@mimipsycho3141]

Lovely lor great video!!! I am so happy i stumbled onto your channel,I really enjoy your videos Also a question to everyone,I am and im not new to Lolita,I've loved it for years,how ever I only have a few different dresses,I have gothic Lolita,sweet Lolita and the other one im not sure which it is,but my question is do you allways have to wear it? I wear mine a lot but not constantly, and do you have to have a head cover bow (like similar to lor, and a little shoulder cover,or is it ok to wear it by its self (just the dress and maybe a wig) Diving in all these Lolita videos,I feel silly for not knowing different dress styles,I can't remember the names for them,but can anyone help me out please? ^^ And is it fine to have a non official branded Lolita? And have different Lolita styles?

[@oddytea6945]

At 8:07 there's someone wearing a jsk that I THINK is one from ETC (pippi and toys?) that I owned around 2012, my last period of really wearing lolita x) Weird that I'm still in that mindset of identifying and remembering prints lol

[@shootie2967]

9:18 we can say Mana-sama is an exception

[@HaldjasHelina]

Ah, I'm always happy when I see a new episode of this :)

[@samanthawright1511]

Even though I personally cant be bold enough to wear what you wear I REALLY commend you. You're so fun, smart, brave and you look so cute. Thanks for putting out such great content. WOULS LOVE TO SEE A FASHION BLOG.

[@angiea3843]

I remember the video on your dream dress... Great video as always!!

[@garbagetm1620]

God I hope u make a doc on Lolita culture. Ur so well informed on both the behind the scenes on docs and the actual lolita culture. Also those Steven universe stickers on ur laptop, I love them where did u get them?

[@plaguerat3701]

Hi lovely lor, I love your videos and think you are amazing and you are such an inspiration to me. I’m a boy and would like to get into Lolita can you do a video on male Lolita fashion and recommend the proper shops because I’m at a loss and I don’t know how to start and I can’t find anything on male Lolita fashion and if any lovely people in the comments could help me it would be much appreciated ❤️😁

[@Slithera]

If you want to wear the dresses, any guide about lolita fashion should do. F Yeah Lolita's articles are very informative, and lolita-tips on tumblr is very helpful too. If you want to wear ouji (prince style, essentially the masculine equivalent of lolita), check out Buttcape's blog (simply googling "Buttcape blogspot" should bring it up), they have an overview on the style and a massive list of brands you can buy from. Good luck! :D

[@plaguerat3701]

Slithera thank you so much I will definitely check it out, have a lovely day/night and thanks again 😊

[@blushface]

I looooove this outfit

[@Lisaerien]

At 3:25 you dance like a gyroid ╔[°o°]╝

[@Carolina013]

I'm ready for this tea 😂❤️ Lots of love from Chile!

[@SebastianSeanCrow]

5:18 I still have sketchbooks my mom got me at Borders lol

[@elliebyrne6118]

i love all your videos! really into lolita and would even love to start wearing stuff but im afraid of what my family would say. How did yours react to your style?

[@majabus3254]

I think its perfectly okay to talk about when you were a child and how Lolita fashion takes you back because the word "Lolita" is basically taken for being this childish cute girl. Ive got no idea how the victorian inspired fashion got that name. I think it belongs more in the nymphet fashion world

[@leadandelion5127]

Because "Lolita" is old Spanish nickname for "pearl of the court" i.e. the most beautiful girl (like Italian Bella) and Nabokov who wrote Lolita the book used it intentionaly as he was huge language nerd and the book till this day remains one of the most layered and complicated language masterpiece ever written. The Japanese newspaper journalist in interview said they used the name as first person ever because lolitas were those beautiful girls like from the old times. You need to realize that original lolita fashion evolved with huge influence of American countryside idealized fashion, there was hugely popular TV series about life on farm with big family, that is also why so many early dresses were checkered "picnic" cloth. This show had huge impact on fashions in Europe and Japan both. As for the victorian element, the second big influence to early lolita is gothic style and Alice in Wonderland, plus court dresses from Europe around victorian times.

[@anaholmes2522]

totally agree! lolita fashion brings me back to a child-like wonder of princess-y cuteness! one of the major reasons I love lolita

[@xTheAmericanNomadx]

Man if it weren't for the title, yikes. Seeing all of those prints made me so happy though. So many dresses I want to have in one video!! Also, do you remember where you got the blouse you're wearing in this video? I need it in my life! 😭💖

[@lunarose9]

I want to go back to the OTT times of 2010 that first attracted me into this.

[@aquagamer1212]

Ugh I can’t find anything on the Angelic Pretty drama :(

[@GeoNeilUK]

I can't see the original video, it's blocked in the UK for copyright reasons! I take it they have no interest in fixing that!

[@lunashadow9942]

Her dance made me think of the gyroids in Animal Crossing!!! XP Lol I'm sorry!!!! So cute though! ~ ♥

[@jeanniecupcakekeitt6103]

Lovely look, I better get my Lolita Outfits Ready 👍👍👍👍👍👍💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

[@divamissz]

A moment for Borders, the chain bookstore that should have lived.

[@SebastianSeanCrow]

9:20 something that always bugged me with documentaries was voice overs for people from other countries. Like give me subtitles, I’m not allergic to reading lol

[@suicidalwithlove6558]

I love your outfit, I’m definitely checking that website out!!!

[@kialashawn]

Ok where do you watch kamikaze girl i can never find a place to watch it :(

[@SmileBiggerPlease]

That title....woaaa😳😳

[@LovelyLor]

I'm not sure what the woaaa is for? It is in fact a student made documentary. The description said it was made for a school project :)

[@SmileBiggerPlease]

Lovely Lor oh no! The Lolicon!!! Your title was great! The lolicon one was just so 😬

[@LovelyLor]

@@SmileBiggerPlease OOOOOOH hahahaha I'm so sorry ! I totally misunderstood ! I'm thinking their title was a mistake they made intending it to be like a lolita convention but oof yeah keep lolicon out of lolita

[@rul1st3n1ng]

Lovely Lor loli is not the attraction to young girls at all looool. i’m sick of people thinking that. loli is just an attraction to younger FEATURES, so someone over 18 who dresses younger, is shorter/thinner, flat boobs etc. stop making it seem bad lmao

[@Charlie-mb5yu]

@@rul1st3n1ng there's a difference between liking short girls and creating sexual art of girls that look like they're 7

[@SebastianSeanCrow]

6:19 people do talk a lot about feeling like a princess (or if it were me, a prince or faerie lol) but I don’t think it’s a good idea to say child??? Just based on western misconceptions alone I’ve encountered

[@cherrizard]

ohhh this makes me miss those 2010 OTT looks ;3;

[@SebastianSeanCrow]

6:19 also I can barely hear the audio of the documentary you’re watching btw

[@sourpatchdog]

Our Borders turned into a books a million and it has tons of cute stuff

[@SebastianSeanCrow]

6:19 I get what they were trying to say, talking about feeling like a princess again etc, but I do think it was worded poorly

[@lethalhighway]

i cried when borders went out of business

[@bigdogtinyberet_]

4:43 ASDFGJLKHAHA I SNORTED SO HARD

[@violetash9597]

Omg! I LOVED Borders but B&N killed them. 😂

[@Roz-90]

I drive by a former borders every day. I still miss it.

[@TheDerpDiaries]

whats the intro song?

[@michaelrichardt]

You are so incredibly clever, I wish you the biggest platform from which to spread your message

[@JennyInTokyo]

So many people make documentaries with no research 😂 I'm not too educated with lolita fashion and culture but even I know lolicon isn't a good title for a documentary, 😂

[@kaylalastname2797]

Best thumbnail

[@emilylavigne5082]

3:18 but ur music is much better, Lor! 💖🎶💖🎶 And bitchin' dance moves, too! 💃🏻💃🏻

[@lovelasnow]

I remember watching that documentary... at the time I thought lolicon was the name of one of the conventions (wouldn't put it past anyone to do this). Why does everything end in con again?

[@ala4935]

Jada Baimbridge convention

[@psychotophatcat]

The "con" in "loli con" is supposed to be "complex," but Japanese doesn't have an ending syllable to represent a hard m. It would either be "roricomu" or "roricon" and I guess the n is probably just easier to say? And as the other comment said, otherwise it means convention.

[@ala4935]

psychotophatcat aye good info. i assumes they meant like “comicon” etc

[@lovelasnow]

@@ala4935 I meant why does the name of almost every convention end in con

[@lovelasnow]

@@psychotophatcat I did say at the time, as in a couple of years ago

[@zukosama8420]

WHAT HAPPENED WITH AP. SOMEONE HAS TO KNOW!!

[@KreepyKuro]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@sleepysartorialist]

I remember coming across this and cringing at the title but I pressed through anyway haha Curious if you’ve watched that even older one from Chicago? I can’t recall what year it was made.

[@stardustgirl313]

R.I.P Borders :( The Internet is an amazing thing but we really do still need our magazines. I miss spending hours looking through books and magazines (and spending much too much of my money on them).

[@hello-bp8lf]

I watched kamikaze girls with my parents and my dad cried. Big recommendation 👌

[@929er13]

I'm not into lolita, but I've been watching these videos for days. i-

[@livinwonder6432]

Loving that co-ord lor!

[@LovelyLor]

thank you so much!!

[@livinwonder6432]

@@LovelyLor was not expecting you to reply! You always look wonderful and have inspired me to try lolita myself so thank you 💖

[@cookievampiress]

who was that illustrator you mentioned?

[@APCLolita]

HAHAHAHA I STILL WEAR JEWELS ON MA FACE *WAVES CANE*

[@pikagirlintraining5492]

Can you react to ‘living as an 18th century Lolita?’

[@cabbage-soup]

i think lolicon maybe was meant to be a pun? for lolita convention? and to poke fun at how people wrongfully associate lolita with pedophilia bc of how its name's similar to the nabokov book and to lolicon? i think it's p funny but also, outside of the context of people who already Know lolita isn't the same of lolicon, which isn't the intended audience of this doc, it's a rather misleading title.

[@DrNanite]

i bought one of the cheapest lolita skirts i could find and still ended up spending 200 dollars on the whole outfit. TnT

[@xFaerieBonesx]

Comparing lolicon and Lolita is like comparing Satanism and devil worshipping to me. Like one is just horrible and the opposite of the other despite the odd stigma attached to it.

[@kylarevette6100]

DO all lolitas like know each other, or just Lor ;-;

[@user-ls3xf3gt1t]

Give me your gloves! >:3