Loom in AoE2

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Spirit Of The Law

Spirit Of The Law

4 жыл бұрын

Ok Loomers! It's time to dive into the surprisingly complicated topic of when to get loom. Besides just looking at how large of an effect it has against a variety of animals and units, I ran the numbers on how big of an effect getting it too early can have on an early economy. It was a surprising amount!
0:20 Stats, and comparison against boar and wolves
1:20 Before/after loom when fighting dark age scouts, eagle scouts, feudal age scouts, spearmen, militia, man-at-arms, archers, skirmishers
2:50 The short argument for why to get loom
3:20 So is loom at the start a good idea?
4:22 Get loom before luring boar?
5:45 Common exceptions: Chinese, Mayans, black forest, elephants & rhinos, getting housed.
Patreon: / spiritofthelaw
Background music from Epidemic Sound: www.epidemicsound.com
Game: Age of Empires 2 Definitive Edition, with Forgotten Empires, African Kingdoms, Rise the Rajas, and Last Khans expansions

Пікірлер: 423
@samuelalphabet5360
@samuelalphabet5360 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine training to be a Spearman and getting taken down by a random farmer with fancy clothes
@chaotickreg7024
@chaotickreg7024 3 жыл бұрын
Gambison.
@jaredsutton1813
@jaredsutton1813 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t even got fancy clothes 😭
@zalybrainlessgenius503
@zalybrainlessgenius503 3 жыл бұрын
I've misread it as Spiderman at first 😂
@AntZen85
@AntZen85 3 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@justincronkright5025
@justincronkright5025 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why they didn't call it 'TARTAN' with that image for the technology. It's way more vocally fitting than 'loom'.
@ImSquiggs
@ImSquiggs 4 жыл бұрын
I have a new Loom strategy I've been testing... you don't research it until you're already getting raided, then you frantically try and research it as your villagers die, and then you resign. Saves 50 gold in most games.
@isaacmendes1926
@isaacmendes1926 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@nicholase2868
@nicholase2868 3 жыл бұрын
My strategy is too put it off for when I have gold to spare, then I forget about it and my villagers die.
@orkheus
@orkheus 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicholase2868 lmao
@jimboramba
@jimboramba Жыл бұрын
Best strategy is to wait until you are getting raided and type furious the monkey boy in the chat box
@Captain_Cinnamon
@Captain_Cinnamon 5 ай бұрын
Just research it when you get housed, research during building a house
@pekicodex6233
@pekicodex6233 4 жыл бұрын
2:52 And from this day forward Gold Miners brought back not gold, but food.
@SpiritOfTheLaw
@SpiritOfTheLaw 4 жыл бұрын
lol oops
@Irondragon1945
@Irondragon1945 4 жыл бұрын
“Only when the last tree has been cut down, the last fish been caught, and the last stream poisoned, will we realize we can eat money.” *_-SpiritOfTheLaw, 2019_*
@mister420blazeit2
@mister420blazeit2 4 жыл бұрын
@@SpiritOfTheLaw It was funny when I heard that.
@Omnicide101
@Omnicide101 4 жыл бұрын
Me and the boys in the Meat Mines
@jasv49
@jasv49 4 жыл бұрын
@@Irondragon1945 lol I totally read that in his voice
@bdonaghu
@bdonaghu 4 жыл бұрын
The male villager acquires 1 melee and 2 pierce armor whilst remaining shirtless. *Rippling pectorals intensifies!
@ducktape-3470
@ducktape-3470 4 жыл бұрын
It's definitely inspired by Halo. It's their invisible Shields.
@ucanbalinalar
@ucanbalinalar 4 жыл бұрын
and then there is Spanish villagers
@delgado290690
@delgado290690 4 жыл бұрын
Quivering abs
@ucanbalinalar
@ucanbalinalar 4 жыл бұрын
Spike absmail armor
@vvvppp6021
@vvvppp6021 4 жыл бұрын
SAIDO CHESTOOO!!!!!
@lostfan10000
@lostfan10000 4 жыл бұрын
2:58 The villager on the far right chops to the beat of the music.
@666sentrax
@666sentrax 4 жыл бұрын
How do you even notice this lmao
@jassimsalam
@jassimsalam 4 жыл бұрын
Yo, send me some free time of yours bro.
@HOBIXpl
@HOBIXpl 3 жыл бұрын
But will she vibe to Ievan Polkka?
@bhavy4783
@bhavy4783 3 жыл бұрын
it's beautiful, I've looked at this for five hours now
@cynthiathornton5762
@cynthiathornton5762 4 жыл бұрын
This also puts into perspective how bad getting housed is to an early economy.
@Graymenn
@Graymenn 4 жыл бұрын
I like houses
@wesleymanoel4630
@wesleymanoel4630 4 жыл бұрын
@@Graymenn i like trains
@Freakschwimmer
@Freakschwimmer 4 жыл бұрын
@@wesleymanoel4630 I like turtles!
@pokefuranku
@pokefuranku 4 жыл бұрын
@@Freakschwimmer Hello! c:
@novkorova2774
@novkorova2774 4 жыл бұрын
Hey dont say that
@ShadowChozo
@ShadowChozo 4 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, Spirit of the Loom here.
@Kevin-cz8qj
@Kevin-cz8qj 4 жыл бұрын
Get out
@TheSuperMagnesium
@TheSuperMagnesium 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kevin-cz8qj Get in
@Peter_Parker69
@Peter_Parker69 4 жыл бұрын
get schwifty in here
@AcousticHills
@AcousticHills 4 жыл бұрын
*face palmed. But i still liked it XD
@LegendKingY2j
@LegendKingY2j 4 жыл бұрын
Ok loomer
@TheMasterd333
@TheMasterd333 4 жыл бұрын
I always kill 2 of my villgers at the start of a game, the strat hasn't paid off yet but here's hoping.
4 жыл бұрын
try 3
@ImSquiggs
@ImSquiggs 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the old roleplaying we used to do when playing 6 hour games of AOE back in the day. When I was winning I used to take my Regicide King to the center of the map and demand sacrifices from other teams or I would raid their villagers.
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 4 жыл бұрын
When I was a child and fight against the AI, I was often killing all the villagers of one sex XD
@ianperry8557
@ianperry8557 4 жыл бұрын
Wee the man kill all of your starting vills and only start with all that you can with your starting food
@arcticbeak
@arcticbeak 4 жыл бұрын
@@ianperry8557 Pro Chinese strat
@HaBBiSiFy
@HaBBiSiFy 4 жыл бұрын
Spirit, you forgot to take into account the fattening effect of feeding a boar with delicious villager before actually luring the boar, making it yield more food!
@caturviriyananda9586
@caturviriyananda9586 4 жыл бұрын
fake fact, i will report you
@jasv49
@jasv49 4 жыл бұрын
That would actually be cool lol
@Gerrieberrie76
@Gerrieberrie76 4 жыл бұрын
That’s just cannibalism with extra steps...
@imluvinyourmum
@imluvinyourmum 4 жыл бұрын
What strikes me is the priest only wants gold the greedy SOB
@bau5235
@bau5235 4 жыл бұрын
my dad bought me the definitive edition for my birthday, im primarily a MOBA player but i dont want to disappoint my dad so im binge watching this... cheers m8
@SerechII
@SerechII 4 жыл бұрын
Your father just wanted you to have the game so he could play it Jk it's a good game :D
@Lucas_Jeffrey
@Lucas_Jeffrey 4 жыл бұрын
You are being rescued from Moba-brain. You should be so, so grateful
@AnglosArentHuman
@AnglosArentHuman 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lucas_Jeffrey MOBA-brain and RTS-brain are both yikes. Don't get lured by addiction while luring those boars.
@traskolonyalmendil9147
@traskolonyalmendil9147 3 жыл бұрын
Basically you have been saved by your dad :D
@jacobnion2525
@jacobnion2525 4 жыл бұрын
I always delete that one villager who kills a sheep that he's not supposed to. They still haven't learned their lesson.
@Thibaut_Guerquin
@Thibaut_Guerquin 4 жыл бұрын
Ahaha I used to do that sometime back in the days when I started the game
@johannesha186
@johannesha186 4 жыл бұрын
Cause they are dead you know
@peterwebster8994
@peterwebster8994 4 жыл бұрын
The effort you put into making videos like this so well-researched and explaining them in a way that helps newcomers and veterans both is a real credit to the AOE2 community
@Whiterabbit124
@Whiterabbit124 4 жыл бұрын
"OK Loomers", I giggled like a little girl
@derdurstbursch
@derdurstbursch 4 жыл бұрын
Giggled like a zoomer
@beardookeashley3946
@beardookeashley3946 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the way you consistently break down the mechanics of the game. I can't tell you how many times you have clarified WHY I do some of the things in game without knowing what i was really doing. Mega props for speaking to the inner nerd in all of us!!!!!
@pspboy7
@pspboy7 2 жыл бұрын
Don's forget that Goths can now research loom almost instantly! (around 1 second of villager idle time)
@rburk854
@rburk854 4 жыл бұрын
I still can't believe I'm watching AOE2 strategy videos in 2019 (nearly 2020)
@NikitaOnline17
@NikitaOnline17 4 жыл бұрын
it's almost guaranteed at some point in the dark age I'll house myself. So. That's usually when I pick up loom lol
@ryannayr140
@ryannayr140 4 жыл бұрын
I would recommend always building a house with each boar vill, and immediately after clicking castle age as getting housed early on is particularly painful. Getting housed at 45 vills with 3tc is quite common but not that bad as you can use the extra resources to pick up wheel.
@PillowWillow007
@PillowWillow007 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Spirit of The Law, I would like to request you to make an introductory video (or a series of videos) to the Scenario Editor. I'm looking to make a few maps of my own, however everything seems just a bit too overwhelming to me - besides, it is relaxing to listen to your calm voice. Thank you for your time and consideration, Tim
@joshuaphillips9164
@joshuaphillips9164 4 жыл бұрын
IDK if it's changed between hd and definitive but he's done a video one some of the tricks to map / scenario building... I remember a few hints at some of it in the answering comments videos but don't quote me kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHLLeINoh6p5o68
@OrcinusDrake
@OrcinusDrake 4 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of new options in DE that I find pretty overwhelming
@schmid1.079
@schmid1.079 4 жыл бұрын
1:16 Who would win? A trained soldier on horseback vs one clothed boy.
@Lucas_Jeffrey
@Lucas_Jeffrey 4 жыл бұрын
more like, some gnarly man with a knife vs one young boy on a badly behaved horse
@maranathashalom9402
@maranathashalom9402 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lucas_Jeffrey That one guy who runs around town randomly killing sheep, walking into peoples faces, chopping wood all day with the axe of his father who died in a tower rush. Yeah I wouldn'T wanna be that scout on the badly behaved horse as Lucas Jeffrey pointed out.
@mwperk02
@mwperk02 3 жыл бұрын
or better yet one little girl.
@paco3523
@paco3523 3 жыл бұрын
That makes me think: why doesn't the scout also benefit from loom?
@zoiuduu
@zoiuduu 4 жыл бұрын
i know more about aoe2 than my university classes,,,and i dont even play aoe2 in almost 2 decades
@zoiuduu
@zoiuduu 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sunscreen723 28
@weylin6
@weylin6 4 жыл бұрын
skipping loom also has a role in dark age rushes, since getting it means you will only be able to train 3 militia if you have a villager gather 10 gold
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 4 жыл бұрын
Well, isn't tat the reason why you only dark rush with three milita? ^^' I've seen drushes in pro player games, they send only three militia and get loom XD
@felipemonasterio6397
@felipemonasterio6397 4 жыл бұрын
@@krankarvolund7771 not the legend of hoang
@m136dalie
@m136dalie 4 жыл бұрын
You don't need to skip loom if you collect 10 with a vil 100 starting gold + 10 collected = 60 militia gold cost (3)+50 gold for loom
@xfi6658
@xfi6658 4 жыл бұрын
"Ok loomer"
@feetus6548
@feetus6548 4 жыл бұрын
for without loom, one cannot boom
@ryannayr140
@ryannayr140 4 жыл бұрын
Haha my name is "LoomIs4noobs" and I'm going to start using that when people call me noob.
@planescaped
@planescaped 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryannayr140 Dr Loomis ain't no noob...
@khashayarhashemi9233
@khashayarhashemi9233 4 жыл бұрын
Next Spirit video: Bombard Canons in AOE II
@longbow857
@longbow857 4 жыл бұрын
Boar canons*
@gunjeetsingh90
@gunjeetsingh90 4 жыл бұрын
favourite unit
@stephenh9483
@stephenh9483 4 жыл бұрын
SOTL has got so much passion for AoE2. He's incredible
@laservsvecchiette
@laservsvecchiette 4 жыл бұрын
I would like know how to optimize my workdays as well as I know how to optimize Dark Age in AoE
@Gleichtritt
@Gleichtritt 4 жыл бұрын
make a schedule and follow it. Wake up 2 hours earlier. Clean up your room and create a system rather than setting goals. If you follow all these, believe me, just really freakin believe me, you will in the end reach your goal, even when u say its a 100k yearly income.
@manuraariyathilake3106
@manuraariyathilake3106 4 жыл бұрын
Man i love Area of Effect 2 its one of my favourite games of all time
@JeanLucPicard85
@JeanLucPicard85 4 жыл бұрын
Walk away thug, I have clothes now.
@raphisrecipes
@raphisrecipes 3 жыл бұрын
it's so great how you are covering every thing in aoe II. I dived into that game so much the last two weeks and got a lot of skill, cuz of this channel. Pretty nice stuff man! Love it!
@wertzuviel3
@wertzuviel3 4 жыл бұрын
LOOM, Donnie!
@rasmustagu
@rasmustagu 3 жыл бұрын
Can't get enough of these - super interesting!
@tinyman1144
@tinyman1144 4 жыл бұрын
I always just get loom when im housed at 15 pop
@Klepske
@Klepske 4 жыл бұрын
I sincerely miss the old intro!
@markdowse3572
@markdowse3572 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, WOW!!!! Thanks Mr Spirit Of The Law for this video. I was one of the people who asked about LOOM, and this review is greatly appreciated! Thanks and well done as always. 🤗 Happy New Year ! 🥂🎆🎇 (It's NYE today, here in smoky SYDNEY....)
@LettersAndNumbers300
@LettersAndNumbers300 4 жыл бұрын
You should get a badge that says “Ask me about Loom!”
@therealozurka
@therealozurka 4 жыл бұрын
Got to admit I never thought getting loom early was the reason I was behind most others. Welp, you learn something new every day, right?
@caffeinateddreams3774
@caffeinateddreams3774 11 ай бұрын
Same
@twoboxtoofurious
@twoboxtoofurious 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@harsharyan4704
@harsharyan4704 4 жыл бұрын
hey SOTL, ive recently bought aoe2de and have been binging on ur videos since.. these help me understand the core mechanics of the game and I enjoy the pretty much everything u post :) just wanted to thank u for the amazing content u've been dishing outta for idk how many years now also cud u include sappers in a video?
@planescaped
@planescaped 4 жыл бұрын
Glory to Spirit of the uploads!
@aspirenux8599
@aspirenux8599 4 жыл бұрын
Ty for all your videos
@oossgl
@oossgl 4 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year SotL!!! Have a beautiful New year! ^^
@tvremote9394
@tvremote9394 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: in the scenario editor of the hd version, if you use the cheat code "aegis", a male villager can kill a boar in one shot, but a female villager has to kill it normally
@Balgore8
@Balgore8 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation!
@Danneman93
@Danneman93 4 жыл бұрын
"Ask me about LOOM™"
@kristianburger6329
@kristianburger6329 4 жыл бұрын
Is that a Secret of Monkey Island reference? 😏
@ducktape-3470
@ducktape-3470 4 жыл бұрын
The Invisible armor the villagers (and Karambits) have is actually the Invisible overshield from Halo games. Problemo Solvemo.
@Clerkius
@Clerkius 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent Choice!
@gilb_4
@gilb_4 4 жыл бұрын
I still cannot unhear "Spirit of the La Hire"
@SerechII
@SerechII 4 жыл бұрын
I thought this dumb comment had died, I still don't get why people would say "hire" is pronounced "here"
@gilb_4
@gilb_4 4 жыл бұрын
@@SerechII because it is french? and in french Hire is approximately pronounced as eer, which is close enough to here. Something is not dumb just because you cannot understand it.
@SerechII
@SerechII 4 жыл бұрын
@@gilb_4 oooh right, I forgot, sotl totally speaks french all the time, that's why you assume a completely normal english word in the middle of a sentence in english is in french, you're so smart and totally not just copy pasting a dumb meme comment that doesn't actually make sense
@kenjen9861
@kenjen9861 4 жыл бұрын
"La Hire wishes to kill Serech!"
@huuvannguyen4656
@huuvannguyen4656 4 жыл бұрын
@@SerechII how about you actually try to get some humor
@desmondm728
@desmondm728 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful - thank you!!
@WhatUpTKHere
@WhatUpTKHere 4 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@ggmr399
@ggmr399 4 жыл бұрын
Happy new year
@potatoesstarch2376
@potatoesstarch2376 4 жыл бұрын
You know just what makes me happy.
@MasterSonicKnight
@MasterSonicKnight 4 жыл бұрын
me: *ready to write "but what if i get housed?" once the vid ends* SoTL: *talks abt it near the end of the vid* rip me
@squalltheonly
@squalltheonly 4 жыл бұрын
This game needs to go on sale soon. I bought AoE DE on the end of the year sale for $5.
@karatekid559
@karatekid559 4 жыл бұрын
you can get xbox gamepass for pc for 1 dollar the first month. AoE 2 DE is one of the games available
@carlpult5235
@carlpult5235 4 жыл бұрын
A Noobs guide to when to get TC techs: Loom - when you get housed for the first time Wheelbarrow - when you get housed for the second time Handcart - when you get housed for the third time
@tcn1john
@tcn1john 4 жыл бұрын
2:34 bottom: stormtrooper skirm spotted
@MoonPiglets
@MoonPiglets 4 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. Thanks for making the video
@tag180rotax
@tag180rotax 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite is mongil 18 pop no loom up and then realizing you forgot loom after you have a raid in your eco
@Gui101do
@Gui101do 4 жыл бұрын
Spirit of the Law is the best!
@Yamaazaka
@Yamaazaka 4 жыл бұрын
Time to go to Spirit's other vids for the intro :P YOU CAN'T DENY ME
@danciortea2278
@danciortea2278 4 жыл бұрын
Happy new yea dude
@Cysubtor_8vb
@Cysubtor_8vb 4 жыл бұрын
I've always got loom early, but also mainly play wood heavy maps where there's often pairs of wolves around and never really been that quick getting out of dark age anyway.
@caffeinateddreams3774
@caffeinateddreams3774 11 ай бұрын
Probably works better on Normal difficulty
@princessbadbutt6022
@princessbadbutt6022 4 жыл бұрын
Here's all the benefits loom gives you during the dark age! Also here's more significant reasons not to research it in the dark age. I know it ultimately depends on several factors I just thought it was funny to point out
@reubendias18
@reubendias18 4 жыл бұрын
Spirit of the Loom
@araara7687
@araara7687 4 жыл бұрын
I get loom when i got housed so the tc dont stop working. Nice video i go playing any way and try it now
@nbrocx4216
@nbrocx4216 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the informative video, Spirit. @6:05, I think you should have mentioned that the delay is less only if you find the sheep within the first 5 seconds. By the time the sheep comes under the TC, a player using the Chinese civ would eventually already have had at least 5 seconds of idle TC time in the beginning (post loom,because the food gathering doesn't start on time), further delayed depending on how much time it takes to find the sheep, and how far they are, and also, if they aren't behind a cliff or a thin, long line of trees (happened in HD, often). I've been doing it wrong all this time, researching loom after the 4th villager gets created. I must have been trailing by 300 resources at least, by the time i clicked up to feudal. xD Noob mistakes. Shall not happen again. Thank you, SOTL for showing me the correct way.
@oliverhughes610
@oliverhughes610 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you can make a video about walling/sim city at some point. It's definitely something I need to work on as someone only just getting into the game competitively. Knowing where to wall and when is not always obvious, and building defensive towers etc is also something I'm unsure about.
@emerson685
@emerson685 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe I can help you out... Actual walling with palisades is something you want to minimize. Definitely make "walls" with buildings that you would already need to make, but actual walling takes lots of villager time that could go to collecting resources. Instead, have the extra resources that you would save from keeping your bills on farms or lumber and use that to make military to attack early if possible. The best defense is a strong offense in aoe2. If you do wall, make it minimal and as close to your base as possible to achieve its usefulness so that: 1) your villagers aren't spending a ton of time walking, and 2) you can reinforce or repair a wall quickly if it is going to be breached. It's okay if it feels claustrophobic early on... you can always delete walls later as your base expands. The same logic applies to towers. They take alot of resources (125 stone +50 wood) but are completely immobile, so defensively it can only guard one area while your opponent's military can move to other areas to hit your economy. It's far better to just have your own military to defend/counter attack. Even if you are just defending, your own military can chase down an enemy army while a tower cannot. Even more import, using 125 stone means you can't afford an extra town center when you get to castle age unless you send villagers to mine stone. That then creates an additional problem of villagers taken away from high value resource collection like food/wood (i.e. resources that can be used for lots of different things or help you get to castle age) to collect stone, which has VERY limited use and only provides a large benefit once you have ALOT of it (relatively speaking). Once an opponent starts relying on towers, I can almost always count on getting to castle age more quickly because I know their economy is not setup to advance as quickly as mine, and then I can just take out those towers with castle age units anyway. Of course there are some exceptions to this logic for very specific builds (like Spanish tower rush into fast-castle and conqs), but good baseline strategy limits towers and walls. Hope that helps
@oliverhughes610
@oliverhughes610 4 жыл бұрын
@@emerson685 So yes, I'm obviously aware from any logical RTS standpoint that building defensive structures is something one wants to minimise since it's a resource sink that doesn't necessarily have returns that make them worthwhile. But what I'm more specifically referring to is the kind of early feudal pressure or castle age attacks that often straight up kill me/my partner (primarily playing 2v2s). And we're talking from the Hard AI, which we've been able to beat, but primarily when a wall keeps them away from doing damage before our units can respond, a well placed tower does enough to hold off some early archer pressure or a crossbow timing, and a quick castle is key to turning the economy into an even and eventually positive trade. That's where the start of my line of questioning began, anyhow. We've come from a background of fairly good (diamond-master) level Starcraft II, so the fundamentals of sim city and resource min/maxing are plenty familiar to us - but we're finding that a tower is one of the main ways to all but ensure we don't die, in order to get into the lategame where we can continue to refine our macro/fundamentals and then win the game - which we usually do, once we're past castles and able to each get into Imperial in good time. The intention being to continue improving until we can consistently beat the Extreme AI - without need for towers etc - and then go into competitive ranked games. We both enjoy economy driven, macro games over rushes or cheeses - we do like doing small pressures etc and getting out on the map, building advanced castles/production etc and asserting dominance. My partner likes to boom really hard, I like to maximise military efficiency - so he'll often go over 120-130 villagers of a 200/200 pop whereas I'll seldom break 100, usually hitting around 80=90. Since it's 2v2, we do gradually increase the number of trade carts we have going throughout the later stages of the game. I have to bully him into taking relics, and usually I end up with 2-4 and he's lucky to get 1, but with those extra gold sources we use markets extensively to sell and buy resources a lot - which I'm not sure is a good thing or a bad thing, but I figure if we spend 125 stone on a tower, it's better to get into castle and buy a couple hundred stone to afford extra TCs and a Castle rather than investing additional villagers/resources onto extra stone mining and the stone mining tech (is it fair to say that we shouldn't rush out both the gold and stone mining techs the second we hit Feudal? How about the wood and farm techs? I've watched the video on Wheelbarrow/Hand Cart, already, and these are the questions I'm forever stuck with...) I've been walling off the areas that are leading to the exposed side of my base, farthest from my ally, and walling at the point that is narrowest, so it's cheapest to build. I tend to have quite a high wood float going into Feudal/Castle a lot of the time, depending on who I'm playing, so spending that wood on palisades doesn't seem to be a problem for me - though another thing I'm unsure of is when to add additional production and how many, i.e., when to turn 1 Archery Range into 3, 3 into 6, and so on - I then tend to get a tower in a good spot covering the front of my base and position my army/rally point to cover the other way in, nearest to my ally, so we can react to help each other out. More often than not, our armies on their own - without any expense on walling or towers - are insufficient either in size or compositon or both to deal with what comes at us. At times, I've scouted multiple garrisoned Archery Ranges in early Feudal, and correctly predicted the archer rush, and churned out skirmishers to deal with it quite well - then the other guy, who has hit Castle already (while ours are on a big delay as we work on getting the units out, upgrading, avoiding being housed, and continuing villager production) comes in with knights and cleans up. Maybe there's just particular 2v2 build order combinations that we need to learn and learn how to defend properly. But avoiding dying in 60% of games at the moment is very hard to do without building defences - and I wish I could avoid having to do so. There's also occasions where I've 'walled' the main entrance to my town with my produciton etc and they wipe my army and just camp the units spawning out of it - even if I recognise I can't beat the army and don't engage it, I lose too much coming out of the buildings (even with the rally point correct) and they chunk it down pretty fast. If I'm down a solid number of archers/skirms or what have you, should I grab villagers (presuming Loom) and push out asap with them tanking to try and deal with it as quickly as possible? Or just get as many units out as I can and let my buildings die, building replacements in the back, and using my army/TC to defend as much as I can? (Though I have to remember every time to not just take my first wood at the biggest/nearest forest, and instead get the one farthest away from the enemy, since too often their pressure arrives and my lumber line is endangered). Thanks for taking the time to type out that reply, though, I appreciate the attempt to help a clueless scrub such as myself.
@santiagogandolfo3801
@santiagogandolfo3801 4 жыл бұрын
Any chance to make a tutorial about the starts and bests civis in each map? Great channel!
@lud4079
@lud4079 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Spirit of The Law, Can you do a video about castle positioning? (both dropping and defense castles)
@zwimmy
@zwimmy 4 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute.... villagers have scimitars now???
@nathangamble125
@nathangamble125 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's a kukri... can't really tell though.
@ponchowizard5182
@ponchowizard5182 4 жыл бұрын
The mighty power of woven fabric!
@avannoni685
@avannoni685 4 жыл бұрын
why is that every video you produce is straight up quality
@jordanwhitecar1982
@jordanwhitecar1982 4 жыл бұрын
i routinely run out of food early on, and my tc will sit idle for 15-20 seconds anyway, so thats usually when i research loom, as it gives my tc something to do while im waiting for more food.
@ryannayr140
@ryannayr140 4 жыл бұрын
If you're late to get to your sheep you can stray from the normal build and go 7 on sheep and then down to 6 after 30 seconds or so.
@Hermandari
@Hermandari 3 жыл бұрын
Spirit of the Law, sitting in Monkey Island's Scumm Bar: "Ask me about Loom!"
@mfpuma_
@mfpuma_ 4 жыл бұрын
Here's to another decade of Age Of Empires
@zenologic7786
@zenologic7786 3 жыл бұрын
I usually create one villager and then research loom while building a house while queueing more villagers behind loom. It works well for me anyway as there is no idle TC time
@adamjohanssonn
@adamjohanssonn 4 жыл бұрын
A video about how strong villagers are for different civs would be great, for example the incas, the villagers gets blacksmith upgrades
@unimportantcommenter4356
@unimportantcommenter4356 4 жыл бұрын
We all now Spanish villagers are the best
@juanfisi
@juanfisi 2 жыл бұрын
unless faced with early agression I usually get loom after castle, or im waiting to get some more food for going castle if im behind in resources OOOR if im doing some kind fo tower rush or early agression with vils
@raphaelantoine7331
@raphaelantoine7331 2 жыл бұрын
With Persians eco bonus I never have idle time for civ production to use loom, so I get it very late
@yerroslawsum
@yerroslawsum 4 жыл бұрын
I see you've dumped the intro. It's what got me hooked way back in the day when you were just building your audience up, but I kinda feel your vids are now better without it. I'd suggest looking at more unusual ways to run your intros just like Dave2D does (he essentially changes them from time to time and he's shortened his intros into 2-3 secs of his typical gem-thingy).
@gabriel.casanas
@gabriel.casanas 4 жыл бұрын
he uses his intros for different types of videos
@papasfritasduras
@papasfritasduras 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, he uses the intro for long videos.
@damp8277
@damp8277 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanna say that Loom is such a cool word
@MadnessTW
@MadnessTW 4 жыл бұрын
We all knew it was better to get it later, but I had no idea I lost 100 res each time I got it for the boar lure. Only for the long/ hill lures now.
@PatrickTCAPIreland
@PatrickTCAPIreland 4 жыл бұрын
Earlier than researching Loom
@-Raylight
@-Raylight 4 жыл бұрын
6:30 Fatslob must be so proud of this xD
@ryannayr140
@ryannayr140 4 жыл бұрын
4v4 Black Forest is actually quite a popular game mode.
@unimportantcommenter4356
@unimportantcommenter4356 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryannayr140 *Black Forest Lord
@diegojc9
@diegojc9 4 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@stefanandrejcik571
@stefanandrejcik571 4 жыл бұрын
I would love if they add bronze unique upgrade to feudal age, you could research it in town center ( they would be just small bonuses ) for example 100wood 50gold +5% to speed for cumans and many more
@justdracir8197
@justdracir8197 4 жыл бұрын
Loom Donnie Loooom!
@austin30233
@austin30233 3 жыл бұрын
@2:50 shoutout to vills choppin' to the beat! lol...
@lorenzomacapagal2854
@lorenzomacapagal2854 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Spirit of the Law, would you mind creating a video how long can a villager with Loom can destroy a castle? =)
@jefffinkbonner9551
@jefffinkbonner9551 4 жыл бұрын
Lorenzo Macapagal Tfw you forget murder holes
@ilevelin
@ilevelin 4 жыл бұрын
A tip I missed in this video regarding researching loom for a safe boar lure: If you research loom AFTER you made the luring vill it will aproximately be completed at the time the villager starts hitting the boar, luring it faster.
@guycrew728
@guycrew728 4 жыл бұрын
Loom? You mean the latest masterpiece of fantasy storytelling from Lucasfilm's Brian Moriarty? Why its an extraordinary adventure! With an interface, OF MAGIC! Stunning, high-resolution, 3D landscapes. Sophisticated score and musical effects, not to mention the detailed animation and special effects. Elegant point and click control of characters, objects and magic spells. Beat the rush! Go out and buy Loom today!
@FlorianD30
@FlorianD30 4 жыл бұрын
Aye.
@CL-wd9kg
@CL-wd9kg 4 жыл бұрын
Loom Donnie!!!
@avinashsahu5516
@avinashsahu5516 4 жыл бұрын
My villagers died early because loom was not researched. No wonder thou art victorious. I shall abdicate.
@MrChuanhquan
@MrChuanhquan 4 жыл бұрын
I always research loom after creating first 4 new villagers as the most basic protection to your villagers. God knows what they have to deal with venturing out there getting resources for you
@maranathashalom9402
@maranathashalom9402 4 жыл бұрын
Photon men everywhere, hiding in the trees. Phrogmen! #paranoid
@famberger5
@famberger5 4 жыл бұрын
@Spiritofthelaw Tip for next video: what is the best strategy if you are housed in DA? Like put 1 or 2 vil to build and reseach loom earlier, build house with all 6 shepards / all 3/4 lumberjacks and idle the TC but get next vil faster.
@Tom-bx1oh
@Tom-bx1oh 4 жыл бұрын
almost 2020 and his videos are getting +50k views after uploading that’s sick
@nabilisri1756
@nabilisri1756 4 жыл бұрын
Your english is perfect
@maana-yasiri7759
@maana-yasiri7759 4 жыл бұрын
Hey spirit, I counted out the hits by the boar when you said it took 4 for vil without loom and 7 for one with. There were 8 animations for the one vil with loom I thought
@SpiritOfTheLaw
@SpiritOfTheLaw 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the attack animation is often faster than the actual attacks. Villagers are actually unusually close if it's a 8:7 ratio. It's much more disconnected with others (rams come to mind)
@shakapedia17
@shakapedia17 4 жыл бұрын
Another problem with looming late is that you'll have 2x(number of boar) villagers with significantly less hp than they would have had with loom. That is unless the boar gets immobilized by the terrain, it may also attack the new attackers reducing their hp at a higher rate. This makes an opponent scout rush more effective since there are more villiagers with a greater reduction of HP. So the value of losing 100-something dark age collection is a bit overstated as a justification for looming later. And most people often have too much of one resource or another anyway after feudaling. Learning how to balance resources is more important imo than looming later.
@mussagan
@mussagan 4 жыл бұрын
such a (g)Loomy video
@dshaw8356
@dshaw8356 4 жыл бұрын
May I suggest Sky Larkin - Loom. It's the song that plays in my head when I'm raiding an opponent who forgot to research it.
@AdlerMow
@AdlerMow 4 жыл бұрын
Hey guys! What about a unique tech that allows your villagers use their hunting bows against enemies?
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