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[@47_was_here3]

That VC devolved into “if they float, they’re a witch and if they sink, they’re a witch”

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Yeah, they basically said every reason wasn’t valid and any response was a tactic to manipulate them.

[@theyaden]

@@lootgoblinmarketplace What Cleric & Gunslinger were saying sounded like things manipulators would say.

[@MrNickPresley]

Okay but if it’s the size of a duck and made of wood, then logically it must be a witch.

[@akun50]

@@MrNickPresley "What are some other things that float in water?" "Pebbles!" "Pieces of bread!" "A CHURCH!"

[@Sintar07]

What I'm most confused about is why it was a thing they needed to talk about or defend from in the first place? Why are they upset the kids are dating? (I know the kids aren't, but they apparently think they are or think they almost are and they're mad about it?)

[@soulhelper7027]

In the first half you could argue an everyone, but as it went on its clear gunslinger and cleric were projecting something that didn't exist on to them and yelling they had to be right cause they're the adults

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Yeah, in the first half, I wasn't sure if maybe Bard and Writer would do something that made the others uncomfortable... but as the story played out the Cleric and Gunslinger freaked out about an everyday Discord friendship that I've seen a hundred times. If they are jealous that Bard wasn't hanging out with them as much that is kind of sad this is how they tried to resolve it.

[@RanMouri82]

​@@lootgoblinmarketplace Agreed, that's where I see the anger coming from. Then they threw tantrums instead of being honest adults.

[@aazhie]

Yeah This is bad enough for adults harassing OTHER adults about an imaginary romance, but extra awful and pathetic for harassing actual minors for such a shallow thing?!

[@calebmatthews7268]

Im thinking one of the three adults might have been attempting to get INTO a relationship with bard. Seperation is a pretty common tactic with grooming, and they were trying way to hard to convince op that the bard was saying things. Im wondering if it was a lie started by one of them, possibly gunslinger since he tried to bring up having screenshots that didnt exist

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

I could see where you think that. If nothing else one of the adults is mad they lost their discord friend’s attention. Be it dating or just hanging out, someone is jealous that the writer here got the Bard’s attention. At least that is my take.

[@calebmatthews7268]

@@lootgoblinmarketplace Entirely agree on that front

[@davidspring4003]

"Why are you dating bard?" "I'm not, I'm lesbian?" "Excuses! Also! How dare you date someone three whole years older than you?!" "Wha...?" "You're the asshole for dating bard, by the way!"

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Yeah that exchange was wild. The first time I read it I couldn’t believe it.

[@earlwyss520]

Hey, I'm 54, and my wife is 56 right now, but I've already had my b-day this year, and she hasn't. So once she has her b-day, she'll be 57 to my 54. So what's the big deal about 2-3 years?

[@davidspring4003]

@@earlwyss520 yes, exactly. That's part of the confusion. 3 years is NOTHING.

[@lingricen8077]

@@earlwyss520thats an extremely autistic way of saying that there is a 3 year difference, defo fake

[@MartialNico]

@@earlwyss520 At that age, most gaps don't really matter. But at age 15 (and these players seem to be teenagers), 3 years either way is a lot, and often considered inappropriate. I would expect someone with 54 years of experience to know this, though.

[@HellaDelta42069]

Ah yes, the definitely obviously notoriously shaky and unbelievable defence of “But i’m not capable of being attracted to that gender.”

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Yeah it’s kind of wild how quickly that got dismissed by them.

[@KingBobbito]

Cleric/Gunslinger were mad they couldn't groom Writer/Bard

[@turtle4llama]

Ding ding ding!

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

It seems like a lot of people are saying that, and I kind of agree.

[@adrianinwinter]

I came here for this comment 👏🏻

[@jordanpayne6042]

💯 I was thinking the exact same thing.

[@robertdirenzo1827]

"I told him I was a lesbian, and he said he was disappointed that I would use that excuse". Sounds like gunslinger and cleric have had a fake excuse or two from other women to get away from their creepiness.

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Yeah, they definitely don’t come across as easy to talk to…

[@1bendykat]

It also kinda has the energy of “a lesbian is just a woman who hasn’t met the right man yet”. As a lesbian DND player, I’ve definitely encountered my fair share of this energy. Thankfully, I started playing when I was old enough to know how to firmly shut it down.

[@midnari]

To be fair, a straight man is just a man who hasn't met the right man yet.

[@Zionswasd]

​@@1bendykat I heard that argument to as a gay dude, that an npc was such a babe i had to make a save to not fall in love even though not into girls, and even though it wasnt a magical effect.

[@livviegoat]

Assuming the OP is telling the truth, the only thing she did wrong was not telling cleric and gunslinger to fuck off and blocking them immediately. I'm amazed she even thinks there's a possibility she's in the wrong. I'm genuinely furious on her behalf.

[@theuncalledfor]

Yeah, the only way this could be OP's fault is if the story is distorted. Assuming honesty, she's in the clear.

[@turtle4llama]

Aw, she still doesn't get how gross the older guys were being. They're predatory creeps, and she needs to excise herself from that situation immediately.

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Yeah it seems like they accused her and the Bard of something that they might actually be guilty of…

[@MalloonTarka]

If this story is true and complete, I think it's clear who is at fault here. I'm a little confused what accusations Gunslinger and Cleric were making. At no point in the story is it clear what Bard or Writer have been doing wrong, according to Gunslinger and Cleric. If Bard and Writer *did* get into a relationship, or one was budding, that would seemingly have been completely fine.

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

I agree with this sentiment that as presented they are clearly in the wrong.

[@infinityseven5924]

I feel like there is quite a lot of context lacking and a lot that was mentioned that was unimportant by comparison. When it comes to what the actual problem was, there's not much specifics. That being the case, its possible that OP is leaving things out and/or exaggerating. The one thing I could see is that maybe seeing two minors flirting with sexually suggestive memes made them uncomfortable as adults, and was further exemplified by the age difference (from my high school experiences, two years makes a difference even in the eyes of other high schoolers, and a lot of maturing happens in that time). There also could have been some frequent manipulative behaviors expressed that OP has left out as OP may have a heavy bias toward bard or been manipulative herself. Even if all of that was the case, it seems like they went too far as adults in the situation. I'm not trying to defend them at all, I just always heavily question the validity of posts like this since we are only getting one side of the story and especially since there is very little in the way of important and specific details.

[@J2Doctor]

Going based on the story we have I think the writer and Bard are in the right. Unless it is heavily fabrucated or altered, I don't think there could be any other result.

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Yeah I feel the same way based on how it’s presented.

[@CatacombD]

For the first half, I was ready to do some devil's advocating. If two people are obviously spam flirting back and forth in a public discord it can be annoying in the, "c'mon, guys, get a room!" way. ..... buuuuut the further it went, the more it seemed unhinged.

[@koboldking7153]

I'm just going to say...there is a chance that Cleric and Gunslinger were jealous at the idea of a relationship, because they were not in one at the time (either due to a recent break-up or just alone for a while.)

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

That is definitely a possibility. I think it would help explain their frustration at the situation.

[@koboldking7153]

@@lootgoblinmarketplace When they were told that she was a lesbian, they probably doubled down on the theory since most adults don't like when kids prove them wrong

[@acet1920]

I’m late to this party but when I was a minor with unrestricted internet access I can tell you that this whole rumor-spreading and separation tactic is just a way for the adults to prey on the children. Shaming someone and calling them a “pedo” (despite them also being a minor) might be how that adult subconsciously deflects their own predatory behavior. But after this whole debacle it really does draw attention to these group of adults and I urge people to keep an eye out for similar signs in people that are a part of your group(s).

[@lingricen8077]

eh?

[@dashroyer7249]

“What are you doing step-bard?”

[@sunsoar1822]

I think part of this story is missing, because their reactions were extreme, especially for what amounts to some back and forth joking text chat. Even if they are still in the wrong, I imagine there is missing context that elaborates their side of the situation, at least enough to where it would make sense.

[@alvarominator]

My situation its not even close but somewhat similar, people dont understand that u can be closer to someone without being atraccted to her or him. Could i have a friendship that i enjoy spending time with without having someone saying things that they dont even know? They are very good friends and i keep playing with them but sometimes they're annoying. Good vid 🙂 i enjoyed it as always.

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Glad you liked the video! Yeah people sometimes read too much into friendships and if both people like how things are then it’s the other people projecting their own insecurity.

[@theanonymoususer7009]

This is literally a witch hunt

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

It was 100% a witch hunt!

[@ninjabgwriter]

All else aside, I find it more than a little unsettling that several grown adults were so involved in the love lives of literal minors, that they know over the internet no less. I don't know the full situation of course, so I feel uncomfortable saying definitively who's in the wrong, but that seemed like it could all too easily become an unsafe situation for the minors and was already very emotionally damaging. It's very iffy, because the power balance in any relationship between adults and minors is heavily skewed, including adults' physical ability to more easily regulate their emotions and their larger amount of lived experience. Children experience a full range of emotions and have equal personhood to adults, but many adults seem to forget that. Even so, it's easier for a child to get confused by their emotions or struggle to understand them clearly, and in heated situations full of conflict, it's even more difficult. In addition society sets up the expectation that adults are authority figure that children must obey, and who have the right to discipline. When the adult takes responsibility to have the child's wellbeing as their utmost priority, it is critical for protecting the child and giving them the space to develop, learn, and grow. When an adult is acting only in their own interest, it can too easily lead to a child feeling like they must obey or defer to someone who absolutely does not care about helping them or keeping them safe, and adults automatically assuming that they have the right to use power over a child when they don't. Whenever adults 'ship' minors, it always rubs me the wrong way. Mainly because it is indicating that those adults are viewing those minors in a romantic or sexual light, even if the adult themselves is 'uninterested'. I really don't get the people who look at two babies or toddlers playing together and are like 'aw, they're in love, they're going to get married some day'. Or in a case like this, assuming it's impossible for older children to have platonic friends of differing genders and getting really bothered by it, like they have to force it to be true so they can punish or encourage it, and then get mad when it isn't.

[@mentalrebllion1270]

So uncomfy lol. Watched all the way to the end. My god the cleric and gunslinger are completely asses and I would not be surprised if they were the actual predatory ones here that they are trying to accuse the poor UNDERAGE CHILD of being. It seems to have continuously been denied and the op’s actual identification being invalidated. I would not be surprised if they were just getting frustrated that they could not groom her because her actual friend was the one she was hanging out with. My god. There is definitely a lot that can be read between the lines here that op seems to be unaware of. I really hope she doesn’t have to deal with people like cleric and gunslinger ever again.

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Yeah, I’m glad they are out of this situation. I hope her and Bard are friends and enjoying their much healthier D&D campaign!

[@Silver_Paladin]

I love when two adult men get jealous of two minors being friends, like they wanted a chance with the underage girl or something?? Who was lesbian??? Your life is pretty clearly better off without those two creepy manipulative old dudes around

[@ijustdocomments6777]

God forbid and boy and a girl be friends and interact with each other in a normal friend way. 🤦‍♀ The "adults" didn't belong in any discussion relating to two kids dating, even if they had been dating, that's just gross for them to try and get in the middle of that.

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Yeah those two “adults” were overly invested for sure. I don’t get why they couldn’t let things be.

[@Valentine011]

Even if they were dating, why would it matter? Demanding answers from some underage folks about their personal life is so fuckin creepy under any circumstance. And honestly? The vibe i get is that Bard shared some feelings he was keeping private from Writer because he knew she wasnt interested and liked their friendship. In which case, going after her like that in a way he clearly didnt want to is even worse! Its such a huge violation of his privacy and their friendship.

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Who was in the wrong here? The Writer, The Bard, The Cleric & Gunslinger, or Everyone?

[@LordSockenIoch]

Everyone a little bit but I think it's mostly Clerics and Gunslingers fault.

[@SolidSprinkles]

I am hard-pressed to put any blame on the Writer. The Cleric and Gunslinger were totally out of line. I'm also perplexed to see that the DM was nowhere to be found to try and defuse the situation.

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

@@SolidSprinkles Yeah, it seems like the DM besides putting Discord in slow-mode once or twice didn't really defuse much. The Blood Hunter tried to step in a little bit as a fellow player, but he doesn't have the same authority as a DM would in that same scenario.

[@adri745k]

All of this drama because of a quote chat wich was supposed to be a joke. Damn man.

[@oscargittins937]

Cleric and gunslinger

[@johnowen9349]

Oh, this is easy. Somebody was jealous over somebody. I'm guessing gunslinger and/or cleric had an inappropriate interest in OP and were angry that OP and bard were so close.

[@heroman2372]

Really just turned it into "Damned if you do, damned if you don't." Deny, and it's true. Confirm, and it's true. Why obsess over someone else's relationships?

[@LaylaSpellwind]

Not really sure how the OP can think they might be the jerk in this situation, which makes me wonder if we're missing some details. Regardless, the homophobia on display tells me already who the main bad guy is. Regardless of whether or not anyone else is a jerk.

[@blazerfox22]

I love the fact that what appears to be the biggest problem player (IMO the blood hunter, because he brings personal tensions to the table) was the biggest supporter. Op and bard are safe as they may have made a misunderstanding but their relationships are none of anyone else’s business. Even if someone is your childhood best friend they have no say in who you date, they do have a right as your friend to voice their opinion but not to choose for you. The only power cleric and gunslinger had was to watch over you two and either cheer you on or voice their concerns, they should have never tried that intervention like VC. While it is possible for a lesbian to discover their bi and for someone to move on from their ex, unless you are that individual you don’t get to have a vote on how they feel. The very fact you could shut the gunslinger down so easily is proof they were sticking their nose where it don’t belong.

[@LordSockenIoch]

I always enjoy storys like this. Thanks for bringing them here to KZbin where more people can see them.

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Thank you! I feel like reading these gives me a chance to improve my own communication and problem-solving skills when I play D&D and hopefully helps others navigate these kinds of situations too!.

[@Elusivearth]

Idk how i feel about "for all intentions and purposes we are all minors" what does that mean? Are you 16? 17? 18? 12? Thats such a weird way to put it and to me comes off as already trying to show themselves as the good guys and the adult as the "crazy adult yelling at kids"

[@KimKhan]

Those two assholes weren't there to help anyone, they were just there to put two kids down for having fun.

[@TheSealMayor]

Some level of jealousy? A huge amount of it.

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Yeah, a huge amount honestly 😅

[@Kamikazedaydreams]

i have quickly become a big fan of this channel

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

I’m glad you are enjoying the content!

[@earlwyss520]

A true "adult" should act as a "peacemaker", not cause strife within the group. While causing mischief & mayhem in game is acceptable, causing it out of game isn't. If someone is giving other members of the group "the creeps" or bullying them while not in game, they should be booted from the group.

[@Dragolee4]

Why were these adults so triggered and interested in a potential relationship between minors, whether it was romantic or not? That comes off as creepy to me, the adults are the a-holes, not the author or bard.

[@AndrewChumKaser]

Obviously cleric and gunslinger were completely in the wrong, but I do think that bard may have had a crush on writer which complicated the story. Unless cleric and gunslinger were completely and utterly delusional, which is possible but personally I don't buy. Even with all that said, even if they had a complicated and messy budding relationship that writer denied, so what? They were both minors, so it's not like they were deliberately trying to be child molesters. The only grooming I'm seeing is the childish adults trying to apparently gaslight the two of them into believing something that wasn't gonna happen.

[@spoonge6682]

If this is real we all know who’s the a-hole. A simple thought that has come to my mind is that “for someone who claims to have not remembered a whole lot they sure do remember a lot”. Simple chat in the discord is something that could easily could be looked back upon but voice chats not so much. So either they looked back at the discord and begun to remember or they’re being disengenuous about something. That could be either about them not remembering much, something about the story, or I could just be missing something.

[@mo6964]

Children should never be in a game with adults unless they are family. This whole table is red flags.

[@dicksoncider5099]

Absolute creepy shenanigans is all I can say. Lots of weird stuff in this one

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Yeah super weird. Almost like it’s missing something.

[@nowsmile790]

I’m of the belief that adults hanging out with children is a bad idea. Both for the child, and especially for the adult in these days, accusations of grooming, online are very serious and nothing to mess around with. In real life, accusations of being a paedophile or something you need to take very seriously if you’re a guy, I don’t allow anybody below the age of 18 in my games for that pacific reason it’s best for everybody for adults to be with adults and children to be with children.

[@roylewis133]

Cleric and gunslinger were both just jelly

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

I’m thinking this might be the case of why something got this out of hand when nothing appeared to be going on.

[@lunarshadow5584]

11:30 I'm straight and I thought that was just a funny joke. The "Step-Bro" joke also feels like a joke, with no real attachment to why it became a meme in the first place (separate art from artist). Though it also might just be that I'm used to being around people who are more than straight to the point I see where the line between friendships and lovers is drawn. (My friends do call me love Guru for some reason) But those two were definitely in the wrong. They're adults assuming children were dating, omitting the information that one of them was gay. Made only worse that they blew the entire thing the f*ck up with their own BS when both "victims" said, "That's not what happened!" (And seriously? Using a fake voice recording of a confession that never happened? Yeah no, those two were creeps that failed to keep a relationship so they never wanted to be witness to other relationships)

[@Geyser39]

?! Definitely NTA. I don't even know how someone could think Writer was TA other than maybe spamming the quotes section a little too much.

[@oscargittins937]

I’ve not finished the video yet, but how I see this is the other team problem, players or in the wrong and they using Bing manipulating👿👿

[@oscargittins937]

I’m further review, I hate the gunslinger and I think it’s manipulation what he’s doing emotional manipulation

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Yeah it seemed super manipulating

[@Skamberin]

Children shouldn't be online

[@rathenn6959]

Torn on this one. Sounds like a crap situation and i do sympathize but i also get the feeling its not the most reliable narrator.

[@сільськаприбахана]

Cleric/Gunslinger both remind me of the guy that was with some chance unironically collecting "excuses" (e.g. all getaways he heard for being a creep) from girls that turned him down 💀

[@seekingfurtherlight34]

Different personality types coupled with the immaturity while simultaneously having an undeserved sense of life experience from a group of minors and young adults points to everyone being at fault.

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

I do find it’s funny that the young adults probably were like college age students roasting upper class high schoolers that they are much more mature then them.

[@seekingfurtherlight34]

@Loot Goblin: D&D Stories & GreenText are they though? I've never played over the net but I'd imagine spamming unrelated comments or quoting would get old real fast. Shut up and pay attention to the game

[@giovannigastaldi486]

If I spam and you, in turn, accuse me of being an abuser, we're seeing eachother irl for the first time either at your door with a couple of my friends or in court

[@dungeoneerofphilosophyphd172]

@@seekingfurtherlight34 The quotes were out of game. Also, you can mute any chat in discord to receive no notifications.

[@Blodhelm]

First part, nunya. Second part, business. Those adults might be chronologically older, but they sure as hell weren't mature.They were acting like two people chatting on a semi-private channel is somehow a crime.

[@opuntiaechios9683]

The response is so unhinged. It doesnt sound like they were flirting to begin with. And even if they were dating its nobody's business.

[@witec83]

Based on the information provided, Bard did have a crush on her or was joking and Cleric and/or Gunslinger took it too seriously. As you said, unless there's some other information we didn't get, Cleric and Gunslinger are in the wrong.

[@aazhie]

Honestly whenever i'm dealing with someone who is not an adult, They get a lot of leeway for just silly drama and petty things because kids are kids and if you treat them respectfully and don't harass them they can learn to model better behavior. I don't really understand what the harm would be even if she and bard were flirting or anything? I'm just really confused about why it would have been a problem if they were just shy about being into each other or even if bard had tried to play it off because he was embarrassed that he didn't realize she wasn't into guys at ALL. I would still shrug it off because he's not an adult. Everyone has potential to be silly or annoying, regardless of age. GS and Cleric sound like a couple of man children who cannot handle themselves around actual children. What a couple of wierdos, and it's creepy how much they cared about being right

[@zorgonvoir6896]

Please more papa, i require more enjoyment papa. No but seriously, keep up the good work, can't wait for more videos. Edit: Anyway giving my personal opinion on the matter, i believe the two problem players were simply so full of love life insecurites they just couldn't deal with hearing or even seeing anyone else have any potential love life. For the write, i don't blame them for the way acted as they were simply confused and unaware. I wouldn't act the same way but i can see why they acted the way they did, especially with the fact even i myself, who has made a whooping amount Ps: No i'm not single, it worked eventually. Remember boys, everyone can get a love life partner with enough determination and low enough standards. Edit2: OKAY SCRAP ALL THAT, THOSE GUYS ARE JUST INSECURE AS #### HOLY #### I THINK I BECAME CHRISTIAN AGAIN.

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Yeah, I definitely agree that the two problem players likely overanalyzed things because the Writer did make it seem like it was pretty standard stuff. I have had many friends on Discord that I would chat with daily and send custom memes to related to whatever game we were playing. We even had a quotes channel and the "quoting back and forth" thing happens often enough. The two who did it the most in my party were by no means dating each other. I'm glad things worked out for you eventually!

[@zorgonvoir6896]

​@@lootgoblinmarketplace Thanks man, i really had to pull off some Jimmy Neutron pick up lines and induendo crafting brain power time.

[@akun50]

The best possible interpretations for Gunslinger and Cleric: 1) the OP is leaving out facts that would explain more in-depth their issue ( _entirely possible since she clearly needed to keep her privacy_ ) or 2) They simply don't understand that the love that you have for a friend isn't necessarily the kind you would have for a family member, romantic partner or lover. But honestly, I agree with the consensus that this was either some weird gaslighting effort to potentially isolate and groom Bard, or these two are projecting some major levels of confused incel/white knight delusion.

[@orlandodiciccio2748]

Yeah….. alleged lesbian is most probably making this all up for attention seeking. This story makes no sense whatsoever. So either everyone at that table is insane, or the story teller is a liar. Statistics tend to favthe latter

[@BlazingKhioneus]

Ah sweet. A second story about gaslighting after the first one I listened to you cover.

[@RanMouri82]

12:07 Honestly? I don't think it matters. If those two felt left out by the OP and Bard's friendship, they should've just said so like mature adults.

[@AneurynPlays]

Any time someone else external to a relationship (whatever that relationship may be) makes assumptions about said relationship, they are automatically the ass hole. If you assume these friends are dating: Asshole. If you assume a dating couple are on the rocks: Asshole. If you assume that a couple aren't right for one another: Asshole. It's none of your business. Now obviously if the relationship is abusive, then an intervention may be necessary, but if you assume there is abuse when there is little to no evidence for it: Asshole!

[@SammaclauseGamgee]

Im autistic and I got annoyed when my phone was spammed in a group chat my family had while I was at work. I cane off more harsh than I thought...so if it was a spamming thing, that mightve been annoying. Also, young people can be annoying for adults (have also been on that end of something). I dont think the dating thing was the big problem....I could be wrong though. Edit: just out of personal preference, a minor has to be pretty mature for me to have the patience to play with them

[@pauloltman4960]

12:10 i feel like they were reading WAAAY to much into the jokes!

[@yamatoundine3701]

In my opinion, Cleric and gunslinger really had NO business being as hostile as they were. Only thing I can take from it is that they had probably not been easily able to make a connection with Bard before and they were angry that someone was able to do so quickly. That is in no way defending them, but is a possible explanation as a partial outsider to the situation. A am a bit upset that the Blood Hunter didn't try to remain friends with the two, BUUUT I can probably assume they just wanted to leave it at that with it staying on a potentially neutral or good note depending on how it ended after the comforting. All in all, Bard/OP 10/10 you both did right there. Blood hunter and DM. A bit of a 7 there on possible correct things, but I'm not shaming you there. Cleric and gunslinger -10. Being adults doesn't mean you're right. I'm an adult and I KNOW I am wrong like 40% of the time. It could be possible I'm wrong here. But you know what, I don't mind that. I will to my death bed support the two friends that just wanted to be friends.

[@TakManSan]

Bizarre infantile ‘adults’ showing how childish they are.

[@tabichenvtuber4703]

I feel like this could have been entirely avoided if they made a private quotes channel after the first complaint

[@ArcCaravan]

If only Cleric didn't lie by pretending they were joking yet demanding change.

[@PulsereaperX]

Damn. Pretty sure I was Goliath in this lol

[@soul4pasta]

Before I listen or read the comments, I’m going to place my bet on the Cleric!

[@soul4pasta]

Called it!

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

You called it!

[@watsyurdeal]

I feel like if two people are cracking jokes with each other leave em alone, it's not affecting the game or the party so.....yea I don't get it

[@patrickream8062]

I couldn’t ever imagine how anyone would assume this is OPs fault. Also if you’re an adult and argue with a 15 y/o you’re so weird

[@djseggrighfscu1616]

Enjoyed the video greatly

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Thank you, it was an interesting read.

[@machinablade7587]

Cleric and gunslinger were definitely in the wrong

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

I agree 100%!

[@MrSaturn619]

I think the a hole in this situation are the self proclaimed mature adults... Trying to wrap my brain around their exact goal... I can't think of anything other then like you express jealousy.

[@JoshuaRWorkman]

I think Gunslinger and Cleric are in the wrong. They misunderstood what was going on between OP and Bard and rather than asking for clarification or ignoring it or whatever, they jumped to conclusions and refused to back down to the point of doubling down on their accusations.

[@Triforcebro]

Trying to get people on your side by calling yourself a child instead of a teenager creates a huge difference in the storytelling, especially when you call someone whos 18 a full ass adult like huh? Just say you were 14 and he was 16 turning 17. The quoting between the two of them was cringy though. They should of just messaged each other in a separate chat because everyone in that chat was getting notifications and it was probably annoying. But thats discord chat for ya

[@VestedUTuber]

Cleric and Gunslinger are definitely 100% in the wrong - so much so that I'm surprised they weren't booted after the second incident. Even if writer and Bard were in a relationship, it's not Cleric and Gunslinger's business. And Cleric taking issue with "quote flirting" (which I can't even see how that would be considered flirting) is Cleric's problem, not the writer's. Not only that, but Gunslinger and Cleric claiming that "writer just claimed to be a Lesbian as an excuse" is blatant homophobia. And seriously? Arguing that defending one's self makes you suspicious? What is this, the early Medieval period? Cleric and Gunslinger are the kind of people that almost make me want to support the human extinction movement. They're scum, absolute wastes of organic matter. Especially Gunslinger, who fucking decided to pursue things further instead of just washing their hands of it. Being an adult and being mature are two different things. The only mistake writer made here was even engaging with Gunslinger after Gunslinger tried to restart things. She should have just blocked Gunslinger's ass right then and there. Bard might have been a bit of a secret admirer of writer, but if anything it seems like he had already come to terms with it being a pipe dream.

[@ijustdocomments6777]

Also saying "don't cry it's a defense tactic" to a girl- Oh my god that pissed me off so much. That's such a rapey thing to say, seriously, like yes women cry as a defense tactic, so men will STOP ATTACKING THEM.

[@matsh5633]

Such a bizarre and LONG story. I listened to everything but honestly I did NOT like it one bit as it felt like pointless drama. I find the ones that actually relate to DnD OR those with weirdos to be far more entertaining. Edit: FYI still you're my favorite narrator as I love your Gobbo and I disslike other youtubers clickbaity thumbnails and/or voices.

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Thank you for your kind words! I feel like even though this story was super long it’s like something was missing. As it was explained though, I do agree it’s a bit of pointless drama and maybe that’s because there might of really been nothing sinister going on between all parties and it was just an immature group of people. I feel like this one could have been sorted out with a clear head and straight forward communication.

[@wyhiobcarlile4879]

you know when you got griffith in the thumbnail shits fucked

[@EnraiChannel]

Feels like this story is missing something or the two causing this ruckus felt uncomfortable about two minors in their group in the end and it ended up being weird mess of projections.

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Yeah it feels like there is something missing? But it really could be as simple as projection making things blown out of proportion.

[@devidevil888]

Oh those two have incel energy

[@ArcCaravan]

Which two?

[@technosage9956]

I think cleric and gunslinger liked op and were jealous even though they were not dating and they though wanted her to be faking lesbien because they liked her

[@Usmc86]

Sounds like the grown ups were creeps and projecting it onto the minors there is no reason to bully kids I don't think the kids did anything wrong in this scenario

[@gigaswardblade7261]

In no universe are the gunslinger and cleric in the right

[@Hispanialegionary]

The older dudes were mad corny it's not your business leave them kids alone

[@themadone3282]

Claric and gunslinger are completely in the wrong

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

I agree 100%!

[@splitgatereaper8234]

anyone else wondering how to find a new online party?

[@johntheherbalistg8756]

My whole question here is: wtf do a bunch of grown men care what two kids are doing in their romantic life? 🚩

[@TheDrudgenator]

sounds like young kids getting a kernel of attention and having lots of fun. can be confused as attraction from other older people. Story as old as time haha. sucks that happened but thats the internet, become an online friend and live long enough to be a gaslighter by others.

[@Gdsryrox]

GRIFFITH!!!!!

[@Themohr]

*intents and purposes*

[@nicewanwan9163]

This story gave me a headache.

[@denmarkball7728]

Sounds pretty cringe honestly to be "quoting" back and forth in a public channel but i don't use discord.

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Yeah, I seen people make an “out of context” style quotes channel where it’s more a way for people to immortalize some funny quote or group joke. Even in those instances I think it is kind of weird to go back and forth in that channel.

[@vampire9545]

I heard this story a few times frok different channels. I do not fucking understand what's going on at all

[@HVdv-cq7nz]

That's just really annoying.

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Yeah, super annoying. I’d hate to be in this situation.

[@boronchillbane752]

I have to say the initial comment on this story is inaccurate. You claim this is a situation in which both sides claim they are right and its up to us to choose, but the story is only from a single perspective so that choice doesnt really exist

[@lotrfam414]

From the first moment Gunslinger mentioned Bard saying the writer had turned him down, I had a feeling that Bard was the one creating the misunderstanding which lead to Cleric and Gunslinger making a whole fuss about everything. I don't know if Bard was in the wrong, or if Gunslinger is just that thirsty for drama to straight up lie consistently. Then there could also be the situation where it in fact could be Gunslinger is just a mindless sheep and Cleric is the one causing everything (I say this, because something like that has happened to me before), feeding misinformation to Bard and Gunslinger.

[@lootgoblinmarketplace]

Yeah it really does feel like something is missing. I don’t know if Bard was misleading or the other two were projecting…

[@lotrfam414]

@@lootgoblinmarketplace I feel like the truth of the matter is a mix of both.

[@AM-yk5yd]

But they also mentioned to having screenshot of voice chat, so Bard "confession" may have been another lie.

[@padrescout]

This story is disjointed and hard to follow. Insert Norm MacDonald meme here.

[@dr.labrat-x3z]

Why is everyone in that story so wimpy?

[@ArcCaravan]

Because there wouldn't be a horror story if they weren't.

[@delguin5447]

Cleric and gunslinger are both genuine creeps, Everything here is creepy with those two, bard and the writer did quite literally nothing wrong in this.

[@iremainteague5653]

This is not an rpg horror story. This is strangers being let in on HS relationship drama. There's basically nothing rpg related in this story.

[@ArcCaravan]

I gotta agree. The only connection to RPGs is that the group knew each other through one.

[@lingricen8077]

boring