20 Other Subtle Differences between Super Mario Maker 2 and SMM1 (4/4)

[@Lumalee_Jay]

The subtle difference series, aka the series we think has ended but truly never has.

[@Skypatroller_BenCD]

I don't see that

[@jacecochran7225]

no more. this is the last one

[@supreme-ss777]

Nope. Mario Maker 3 would probably come for the Nintendo Switch’s successor.

[@Diwasho]

Well, it does make sense that Dry Bones wouldn't be able to exist in water. Because then it wouldn't be dry anymore.

[@KC_Garcia]

Wet Bones

[@Obstagoon862]

Good one!

[@mailingcat]

WET BONES 100 --------

[@sirmoonslosthismind]

this is mario; logic has no place here. dry bones belong underwater because they were frequently used underwater in the older games.

[@wing_103]

*Wet Bones*

[@jnuck6177]

3:19 so they can use the same thing when playing : *play together* and the player who gets the key dies

[@veraluciamarinhoabrantes8442]

Smm key falls

[@veraluciamarinhoabrantes8442]

Smm2 key stay

[@CosmicApiary]

Love the new pixel art for the shelmets! they look a lot better in SMM2

[@janehuskmann1914]

I agree, Shield.

[@mystora7159]

Chloe exept the smw spiny

[@SleepDeprivedGinger]

Sorry, I disagree

[@CosmicApiary]

@@SleepDeprivedGinger that's fair!!

[@mrjayden17]

Chloe *_no what the fuck_*

[@KCandFriendsUSA]

Theme to use: SMB1 SMM1: Bowser icon cued “Boss” SMM2: Bowser Jr icon cues boss and Bowser icon emits new effect called “Final Boss”

[@TattleameliaMLG]

That's Not A Subtle Change, That's A Major Change And It's For Every Style, Not Just SMB1

[@TattleameliaMLG]

He Said SMB1 In "Theme To Use" I Know SMM1 Stands For Super Mario Maker 1

[@NH1507]

Its basically what he said, but without the first sentence.

[@enderallygolem]

Thats just SMM2 having more sound effects

[@albond]

@@TattleameliaMLG Why Do You Feel The Need To Use A Capital Letter At The Beginning Of Every Word?

[@FunAnimator]

2:24 The Super Mushroom got a speed nerf *OOF*

[@piggyzig]

Y i, naravno, ne samo da se ne bi bilo dobro da ga ne bi ga je, u okviru projekta je

[@GuardianOfTheLunarLighthouse]

not more oof is now *DEH*

[@3sides-o2b]

​@@GuardianOfTheLunarLighthouse oof is way better

[@mitchelvanwijk]

2:27 I have played a lot of Super Mario Maker but i never knew about this until this video

[@justsomedragonwithinternet7366]

same

[@zarthy4169]

Same.

[@niklyoshi842]

In case there's a part 5... - In SMM2, Piranha Plants will start to float instantly in SMW, in SMM1 they first had to hit a surface. - In SMM1, there were no "lurking" animations for Thwomps in SMB, SMB3 and NSMBU. This has been changed in SMM2, most likely because of the special behavior in the NightGround Theme ;) - You can spinjump off vines in SMM2 SMW style. Really love finding and watcing videos of these subtle differences :D

[@pikachugamingextreme2.082]

Nice job at finding these. You definitely deserve a part in this vid :D

[@helloyanis]

Great job finding these!

[@niklyoshi842]

Thanks Pikachu and yanis😇 And yeah, probably @SWUG, since it's quitr obvious (:

[@luciananeves3374]

Looygi Bros Just Hope That make Part 2 (:

[@ChristopherMoom]

6:11 Look out Sonic, Mario's gonna become *_the red blur_* to rival you

[@ianchandler4649]

Well well look who it is!

[@thedubstepdoge]

uoy lavir ot rulb der eht emoceb annog s’oiraM ,cinoS tuo kooL 11:6

[@GraceFB1]

First you were in GioFilms,next EmKay, and know you’re here??????

[@pikachugamingextreme2.082]

For goodness sake, fuck off

[@I.V.G]

Wait.... Doesn't sonic move at the speed of sound??

[@hiiistrex2838]

6:20 there are other speeds too. Zoom affects it, and with the touch screen you can use 2 fingers to pan way faster (but the speed with that isn't consistent)

[@Twister2849]

🎃

[@video_cookies]

I love this channel so much. The content is so chill and wholesome, it's perfect to watch on a relaxing day! ♥

[@ethsinkoh]

Yep!

[@jacob128gd5]

I've got one. In SMM1 you can walk through the platform holding up the axe. In SMM2 the platform is completely solid.

[@checkoutmynewchannel6708]

Idk if anyone mentioned this already but different colored pipes will spawn different amounts of enemies The goomba shoe crowding situation can be remade with a red pipe

[@theannoyance1999]

It's a hard-cap of one across all pipe types.

[@pedrojose660]

Nice , didn't know that

[@RVeld01]

Every fact lasts way shorter now, great improvement!

[@sonicxd4304]

Here are some you forgot. SMB1 Ghost House Music Smm1: Entering a level will always show SMB1 Mario no matter what game design. Smm2: The Mario matches the game style. Moving elements sound Smm1: Pipes would always be plain old Green. Smm2:We can now color it! YAY!! SMM1: WE had to shake elements to change them. Smm2: We have to hold it to change it(And add wings and a parachute.). Smm1: Only playable character was Mario Smm2: You can now play as Luigi, Toad, and Toadette. Smm1: Level slots were set as worlds. Smm2: That's not here. Pause sounds Smm1: After saving the level and reopening the software, it will show a random level. Smm2: After reopening, it will show the level you saved. Smm1: Weird Mushroom Smm2: Superball Flower Smm1: Mystery Mushroom Smm2: Master Sword Master Sword is in the 2.0 update in smm2. Smm1: The random level in the title screen showed it in any game style. Smm2: It's organized Ground:Sm3dw Sky:smb Underground:smb Forest:smw Underwater:nsmbu Ghost House:Sm3dw Desert:smb3 Airship: smb3 Snow:nsmbu Castle:Smw Smm1: Placing ground next to starting point and goal point didn't connect (WHY THOUGH?). SMM2: It connects Smm1: Bowser sound had the boss theme Smm2: Bowser Jr sound is boss and Bowser sound is final boss. Smm1: Tutorial had Mary Smm2: Tutorial had Nina Smm1: Tutorial didn't show names Smm2:It does

[@teresabarboza398]

wow

[@sonicxd4304]

@@teresabarboza398 Thank you

[@supreme-ss777]

The “random level” still displays the level you last worked on and saved before the game closed in both versions.

[@xian2themax]

The mushroom speed tip was really helpful, I have used it to make timers in many of my levels.

[@TheomanZero]

Great . . . more things Nintendo forgot to port. At least they made the collision make more sense.

[@reversible8740]

They didnt add these on purpose, im sure they have a valid reason

[@goshator]

@@reversible8740, what would be the reason for removing a little checkpoint easter egg? Or what about Yoshi particles?

[@albond]

The Muncher collision is too big now though

[@wrpen99]

@@goshator The yoshi particles were too lewd obviously.

[@styleopensacanofwhoopass6188]

Gosha Sounds weird but the switch does not have unlimited power

[@Grane1234]

In Mario maker 1, the POW blocks were neutral, but in SMM2, they blink.

[@margaplomp2072]

New: The Dragging Sound In The Editor Is Different

[@supreme-ss777]

2:31 This could’ve worked as a defense mechanism where, if an enemy is coming near you and you have the helmet on and are small, just crouch! Mario Maker 2 breaks this…

[@TheGenericNoobTGN]

0:00 the intro at ×0.25 playback speed sounds like a nuclear alarm lol

[@dronereviewsandgaming8490]

XD

[@mystora7159]

In smm1 you could throw a spring under a thwomp and it would move the thwomp. In mm2, it doesnt work (I believe it does still work in 3d world)

[@plompedu]

Yes it does

[@sandman92660]

@@plompedu Did you even try it?

[@plompedu]

@@sandman92660 yes

[@User-wh1mh]

Don’t remember if this was mentioned in previous episodes, but in SMM1, when the time hit 0, you died at that point, but when the time hits 0 in SMM2, it takes another second before you actually die.

[@letter_o_hyphen_letter_o]

One subtle difference that people may not have noticed: The editor music was just 1 track in SMM, as opposed to multiple styles with different elements active/inactive that would switch out regularly in SMM2

[@quesoazul3494]

in super mario maker 1 if you start a Level from the beginning you will appear to the fifth block but in super mario maker 2 you will start in the third block.

[@Sycholesent]

Big Brain.

[@IDontKnowTbh28491]

Wow, I actually didn’t know that!

[@ニンテン_ヨッシー]

The underground styles for SMB and SMB3 had shadows in the Wii U version. These shadows are completley unseen in the Switch version.

[@MasterGeorge090]

Another difference: In SMM1, when you place a mushroom to something when you already place a mushroom to an enemy, it coughs out a mushroom. But in SMM2, it doesn't happen.

[@mynameismmandimheretosay7979]

5:49 Didn’t expect a guest appearance for this episode

[@prismacan7752]

Finally! Someone talks about the Checkpoint thing!

[@ayo.2022]

#6 has been stressing me out for a while now; it doesn't feel the same wearing a buzzy beetle shell when you can't actually use it's properties

[@M.Prestige]

2:04 MUSHROOM VS CONVEYOR BELT! SMM1: Mushroom won! Mushroom: Yay! I won! SMM2: Conveyor Belt Won! Conveyor Belt: Heh, you suck mushroom, you no match to me. Mushroom: Dammit nintendo...

[@0DRONZER]

i think that your intro is gonna become the most nostalgic thing ever

[@delfinaventura6849]

03:49 he learned drifting 06:16 GAS GAS GAS!

[@xian2themax]

6:52 if helps make levels that sync with the music

[@GlacialSiren484]

In SMM1 getting a 1UP in NSMBU sounds like the it did in the original game but in SMM2 it was changed to the NSMBWII one however getting 100 coins has the same sound effect in both games

[@CuriousUserX90]

0:15 I had no idea of that myself when playing the Wii U game.

[@justsomedragonwithinternet7366]

same

[@silverwheelchairiot6525]

They need a setting where you can change the hit boxes from original (depending on the series) to current aka super precise

[@11th_Endor]

In smm2 buzz saws now make noise.

[@mynameismmandimheretosay7979]

You’re SMM2 huh? Tell mE WHY YOU REMOVED OVERLAPPING PIPES.

[@11th_Endor]

@@mynameismmandimheretosay7979 big oof on my part. Rip

[@mystora7159]

Do you think it should make no sound?

[@11th_Endor]

@@mystora7159 well it can be pretty annoying at times like in a silent ghost house, I know you can probably use it to your advantage, but it just annoys me.

[@Seksikaspeto83]

In smm1 you can make own sound effects. In smm2 its not possible

[@Temmered]

Did anyone notice that the spike hat has a different design? 2:27 2:36

[@hidmdhd2156]

That's good video man ❤️

[@WadelDee]

Why did they change the transition to the underground theme (the last entry of this video)? Was this a good thing or a bad thing? Like, if you were to play a new Mario level creator, would you prefer the Theme changing or would you prefer to have it remain constant? Does this depend on which is the starting Theme? Did Nintendo change this because the optimal way would lead to inconsistent results?

[@zachb1706]

WadelDee probably to load faster, changing theme might have taken longer

[@firstnamelastname3262]

Damn Loogi, back at it again.

[@pennywise1281]

Super Mario Maker Boss Mario cannot die near missing Munchers. Except Super Mario Maker 2

[@themightytammos]

What?

[@themustachioedfish5988]

Uh, can you say that again, but in English?

[@visualgagging]

Super Mario Maker 1 Mario is a boss- he can nearly touch a Muncher without dying. Not in Super Mario Maker 2!

[@thesonichat7389]

There is still so many factors that this game has that gives it the idea that it was rushed.

[@Sera69FI]

When you go through the door in SMM1, and immediately back again, the screen fades to black immediately. But in SMM2, when you go through the door, and immediately back again, the screen fades after about one second wait.

[@Randomness2018]

In Smm the Nsmbu 1up sound was the wii one but in Smm2 its now the Smb one

[@zippycat]

nintendo took fun stuff ;c

[@pikachugamingextreme2.082]

Nintendo always takes the fun stuff, but they improve at the same time :)

[@IDontKnowTbh28491]

Even though the fun stuff is removed, the game became much better than the original. SMM1 looks like a prototype compared to SMM2

[@randomMSMtuber]

Smm2 might be a kind game. Idk maybe?

[@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodb7585]

Dhruv Patel weren’t whomps added already?

[@michaelchen3252]

@Dhruv Patel Pokeys were added to smm2 after you made this comment

[@HardSonicStorm]

In Super Mario Maker 1 online mode, if you press select to skip the level when you land on spikes, the skipping screen will appear before Mario takes damages, however in Mario Maker 2, Mario takes damage before the skipping screen appear

[@user-ku3sr7cl3u]

Interesting fact about 5:30: SMB1 was white text for 1UP, SMB3’s was red, same goes for SMW, and NSMBU was the only one that was green.

[@atroxxious]

yea tru

[@atroxxious]

e

[@vesschusterdeadchannel8389]

5:27 that was in the super Mario bros 1-3 my dad knew that trick

[@softestcat]

Have you brought up standing on conveyor belts in SMM1 yet?

[@jakeblancaster8498]

@Looigy, you think we can make up some solutions if any of these changes become seen as a problem?

[@supreme-ss777]

I noticed one: In SMM1, objects can be placed at the start of the level, making for more interesting level openers. In SMM2, since the game is now multiplayer, the start of the level is blocked off from placing objects right there, possibly to prevent players from getting stuck.

[@IronNinjaFish]

5:04 indipendent?

[@LunarBoo]

In SMM2, POWs and P-Switches glow blue for some reason.

[@Kylin_Phoenix_Vartilo]

It's so you can use them as stationary sources of light in boo house night modes

[@sandman92660]

@@Kylin_Phoenix_Vartilo Makes Sense, because you can't just use the lava bubble for light.

[@pepearown4968]

Yeah. While it’s great for pseudo lanterns and light boxes, it ruins the aesthetic of them, especially in the first 3 themes.

[@alexismercado3944]

@@pepearown4968 Would be better if they only shine in the night themes

[@pepearown4968]

Alexis Mercado That’d be a bit weird though. They’re not deep sea fish or fireflies. They’re insentient gizmos.

[@ACrossingSage24]

one thing I've noticed is that the starting terrain in the airship theme in SMM1 is the ground theme's ground, but in SMM2 it changed to the new sky theme ground!

[@worldof.laughter]

1:20 I thought the semisolid platforms were only in Mario maker 2

[@ДамирБек-ю5ю]

Bro is syncing

[@CuriousUserX90]

6:24 All these Fishbones can do out of the water is drop and crumble.

[@DAJTheYouTuber_2007]

2:38 this is probably to replicate 3DW's Goomba Mask -wdym that this was before that update-

[@alisiaale565]

In Mario Maker 1, in the NSMBU style, if you try the triple jump, the second jump sounds like the wall jump sound, but in Mario Maker 2, the second jump sounds like in the original NSMBU game! 🔊

[@halloweenpeachy]

Hey! I saw this in my feed. Just wanted to say that when using bombs against bowser it does 2 damage per bomb instead of 1. Making bowser being killed in 10 hits instead of 1 when doing it that way. I don’t know if it’s the same for koopa shells.

[@GMDTheOnyxGuyEizzX]

7:09 Oh, so, it's basically a perspective fix depending on the position of Mario's face. Yeah, smart one.

[@carterjames8829]

Nintendo did in some ways improve the Mario Maker franchise (adding stuff like more bosses and new power-ups), but they also ruined some elements that made the game more interesting!

[@jacecochran7225]

in smm1, you could shake bowser to turn into bowser jr. in smm2, bowser and bowser jr are now seperate objects.

[@solleon9851]

In SMM1, when a Yoshi egg is big, two Yoshis come out of it and start running. In SMM2, big Yoshi egg is red and a fire-breathing Yoshi comes out of it.

[@smtonyanthony4227]

In the original Mario maker, I think the levels limit length from start to finish is longer than MM2. I remade a level from the 1st game to the 2nd to the exact block and I couldn't make the ending the same because the level was shorter.

[@brennancampbell3917]

Did anyone else think of the landfill scene from Toy Story 3 at 2:20??

[@qwertyuiop-cy5en]

no

[@TonymeansAnthony]

If you’re doing a Part 5, in SMM1 the timer counts the very first second but not the very last one, but in SMM2 it’s the opposite.

[@damianzain8808]

3:06 and 3:13 sounds like the music is saying a bad word maby it is saying fun but idk

[@blocksworldfan7611]

Damian Zain u mean ba

[@tatos529]

*music* F**k

[@PomPomthePigtailGirl]

Smm1, you can't adjust the length of the lift, that feature was added in smm2

[@IvanFranco120]

Yeah, i did use this feature in some of my SMM2 levels...😅

[@Sean_Pawn]

In Super Mario Maker, when placing a Super Mushroom the Super Mario Bros. style in the ground theme, it would normally have a voice say “Super Mushroom” in time to the music. However, in Super Mario Maker 2, it is the only known instance when the voice says Super Mushroom without going with the music.

[@jackwut2939]

What is your outro theme I really like it

[@LooygiBros]

It's the character select screen theme from Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Mario All Stars version :)

[@jackwut2939]

@@LooygiBros thanks really like ur vids

[@alisiaale565]

*4:06** It also works for red/pink coins?*

[@zerroz3481]

What is the 9:31 song pls

[@LooygiBros]

It's "player select" from Super Mario Bros. 2 :)

[@zerroz3481]

@@LooygiBros thx

[@Hello_Its_M]

​@@LooygiBros But in super mario all stars

[@memesarekeem]

I just don't understand. Why remove Yoshi's particle effects? It's a small detail I didn't even notice until now, and I'm assuming they HAD to purposely remove it, I mean, if not, why not keep it in? It's the same problem with a lot of things in this game. They added so much but at the same time, removed much more, even trivial things like Yoshi's saliva. What's the point?

[@yimpster27]

In SMM2 lava bubbles that were hit from a ? block go higher than in SMM.

[@rogermrogerm]

Do you notice at 5:13 when he places a fish bones the music says fish bones

[@zememerr2329]

Another small UI change is that the score board in NSMBU changed from Black with a white stroke in the original to white with a black stoke in SMM2

[@Madness0120]

Next thing I know, they’re finding pixel and sub-pixel differences within the two games...wait a minute.😑

[@flaneurmarin]

yeah, it's not like the video is called "subtle differences" or something, this guy nit picks so much!

[@jasonkamstra2983]

in super mario maker 2 can you finish with 0:00 sec BUT in super mario maker 1 not ( 1% it works but its rlly hard)

[@choppern3crozma673]

I thought there were only going to 3 parts (based off the fact that in the previous vid, it said 3/3)

[@y.2439]

Another change is the 1-up sound on NSMBU in challenges SMM1 the sound was the 100 coin one, during the level and the end of the level On SMM2 during the level is the sound when you get a item that you already have, and the final is the normal sound of a 1-up

[@Serious5GamingS5G]

9:33 that nightmare look on one of the comments

[@samsimington5563]

So if my counting skills are correct there are 85 total differences between SMM1 and SMM2

[@angelicamutisayala5312]

I have two for in case you make a part 5. #1: Theme to use: SMB1/SMB3. As small Mario you can crouch/duck in those game styles in Mario Maker 2. But in MM1 that's not possible. (I think) #2: In MM2 when you start a level, the ones digit of the timer says "9". But in Mario Maker 1 the timer, like in older games the ones digit says "0".

[@angelicamutisayala5312]

I wish you put this in a video.

[@athenamite]

4:59 you misspelled independent.

[@MathematicallyAFox]

I am pretty sure I didn’t, but looygi did.

[@athenamite]

Foxy9865 YT *facepalm*

[@MathematicallyAFox]

Atohacya It was a joke 😂

[@MathematicallyAFox]

Atohacya And yes, I make crappy jokes

[@mariaivanirochaneves4084]

It's indipiedent

[@tatos529]

0:58 That sync tho...

[@sl_ate25]

On the direct comparison of super mario maker and 1 and 2's New super mario bros Wii u castle theme,you can see on Smm2,it's got more lighting from the lava and it's got the details for the lava on smm1 there were less lighting and details to the lava

[@jaydentt]

Wait, are mushrooms slower or slow conveyours faster

[@Obstagoon862]

In SMM1 the ground tiles placed next to the start/goal ground didn't merge. (If you know what I mean) In SMM2 this was fixed.

[@cheez_sammmich]

Looygi:Mario can grab coins with a raccoon suit or cape Luigi (your probable cousin): *anGEr intENsiFieS*

[@TotalDramaNL]

Don't forget the sounds when collecting a 1up mushroom are different between the two games in NSMBU style.

[@snowysnowballsnow]

Extra Detail: the sound for a boss death is different!

[@IvanFranco120]

Intresting..🤔

[@Ninetails2000]

7:35-Mario backing that ass up on em like a champ. XP

[@PA0L0_D1_B3LL0]

after 4 years you spelled XD wrong

[@natebit7167]

Why would they remove Yoshi eating effects??

[@kingtesttube4996]

In SMM2, the section with the high notes in the Ghost House song in the SMB theme is slightly off key.

[@FZone96]

How long till it's (4/5)?

[@nobodyasked2144]

0:12 HOLY SH*T I NEVER KNEW THAT

[@alol1551]

We ever mention how moving shelmets no longer carry bullet bill launchers? Spent an hour making a redux of a 3ds level only to find that out.