IS THIS THE END ? -Thwaites Dumper Rebuild

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@restorewithcal 28 күн бұрын

Strip it for what it is. You’re nearly into it, then assess and make a decision. If the worm and pinion are too chewed up, maybe look for another. Or perhaps, is there something else that shares a similar style of steering box that is more readily available? That you could sort of retro-fit? Love the videos as always anyways mate!

@wideyxyz2271 Ай бұрын

A rebuild please. We know you have the skills plus more. Time may be the issue, but it would be great to see the process. I dont tinker very much these days but you made me want to go out and get a "puller set" Lol just in case !

@simongriggs4351 Ай бұрын

You Can't let this be the end of the good old Dupper mucker love the videos thanks

@chrislovejoy8249 Ай бұрын

Nice video again Mucker don't give up on the old dumper like to see it running.🚜😊👍

@trevorjarvis3021 Ай бұрын

A man of your calibre would be able to rebuild that steering box Mucker, must be cheaper than purchasing a replacement one! Looking forward to watching you do it. Brilliant series on the old dumper! 👍❤️😊👏

@neilcotten2816 Ай бұрын

Where are the people that could have got it running in 10 minutes? They could have used their spare time taking the steering apart for you! I reckon you can rebuild that easily enough so it’s good enough for use, be much cheaper than another steering box unless you know where there’s one. 👍🏻

@grahamstretch6863 Ай бұрын

Yeah, there’s always someone who can do it in ten minutes… until push comes to shove and then they evaporate like rain on a hot pavement! 🙄

@patkelly7999 Ай бұрын

Great job Kurt and Puppo, would say rebuild it if at all possible, a second hand unit could have similar issues down the line, have a good week👌👍🙏🙂

@jessewigman4907 Ай бұрын

Please continue and try and rebuild the box! Loving the videos 👍

@pilotiain8450 Ай бұрын

Keep the project alive Mucka! Rebuild it and move forward 👍

@kevinwillis9126 Ай бұрын

Thanks Kurt great vid sir.... Take care...

@LordMuck Ай бұрын

Cheers Kev 👍

@SiR2Dean Ай бұрын

I've really enjoyed this dumper mini series. A few weeks before you started the project, i just got my little dumper fixed, and you're pretty much dealing with everything i had to contend with... even the arsey so-called professionals who just laughed at me for not knowing certain things about an engine, predating me by 50+ yrs and I'm 40! Funny things for you maybe... i used to use a digger with a strap wound round where you put the handle to start it, leave the decomp lever in the "run position" then lift the strap with my digger, like a pull start... that was ok but itd lift the dumper rear end sometimes.. so i made a frame and stuck an old honda gx160 with a clutch and pulley belt drive onto the crankshaft... yeah i looked at electric start, but that means lots of fab work i couldn't do. All made from marketplace parts, cheap as chips. I dont have a ytube chanel so no video on ere, ur welcome to come look anytime though if youre ever in lincolnshire 🎉 love your vids mate, nice to hear someone not taking crap from the "stationary engine community" ignore ppl who tell you to do a "pop off" test on the injector, mine didnt fire, i didnt want to buy a single job use £75 injector tester, so i just cleaned it, then just adjusted it till it squirted. Once the engine ran, i just adjusted the injector untill the smoke was bearable... its not right, but it runs fine, starts easily and has enough power for me.. I had to weld the diff to get anywhere on mud, oh and ended up replacing the piston because the skirt had fallen off, along with the oil scraper ring.. it was burning oil and "ran away" so i checked the piston. Nothing to do with bad injector pressure. 😊

@ronniecumming7685 Ай бұрын

Like the video Mucker. Try and rebuild it or see what it needs to rebuild it.

@robmk3 Ай бұрын

Mucker that video clip that cut in when you found those parts of the steering box was class 🤣

@srlstephen8465 Ай бұрын

It must be taking a lot of your time so it probably isn’t worth it but it would be lovely to see it going and driving again. Good job.

@patrickjordan7670 Ай бұрын

I started out on one of them dumpers back in 1970 I learned a life lesson from tipping a load of concrete that had solidified in the skip it threw me of the dumper I was only 14 it never happened again it was a challenge to get them started in winter many a lad broke his thumb looking forward to seeing it started 👍

@mikeduin8311 Ай бұрын

Nice one M'lod! I'd disasemble the steering box a bit more to see the full extent of damage and go from there if it's rebuildable or get the refurb one. Those pullers are nice, got a similar set myself, used it to get the ball bearings of my Honda MTX crankshaft. Cheers, Mike

@Mr_Springy Ай бұрын

Really enjoying this mini series 👍🏻 It would be nice to see you disassemble it, even if you then determine it is BER and need a replacement. Once apart you have the knowledge as to whether it is worth the cost in time and money, to fix it

@deranocasper Ай бұрын

What ever you put into the dumper it's a keeper you will find work for it it just needs tlc and the we dumper is in the right hands well worth saving ❤🎉

@mark2w0jmk7 Ай бұрын

Rebuild it. I'm starting to enjoy the videos on the old dumper.

@johnlydon533 Ай бұрын

Great video Mucker, I’d say rebuild. Enjoyed watching. 👍🏼👍🏼

@lloydharrison2043 Ай бұрын

Cracking video,love the series running on this dumper Lots of nice tips for everyone too learn And its good fun along the way

@gmartin8240 Ай бұрын

Another great video Mucker, continue to rebuild the steering box . Well done Mucker 👍 🔧 🚜

@AndyHumberstone Ай бұрын

Keep up the good work on the videos it always cheers me up when I watch and hear you 😊😊

@trevorpearson1832 Ай бұрын

I'm thinking try and rebuild it. Thanks for the video.👍

@charliemorrison1994 Ай бұрын

Great video as always mucker do whatever is most viable if its wrecked inside might be worth getting a decent second hand one as a starting point 👍

@cari-joanjameson2989 Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! Its not my time energy or funds so i dont feel right saying what you should do to fix it but i am looking forward to seeing what you come up with. Very cool little unit.

@davidgibbings6085 Ай бұрын

I’m hooked Kurt , I think hatttie thwaits deserves to have a new life in old her box , she’s a straight dumper 🙏😉

@Darrenws111 Ай бұрын

Fabulous video mate 👍👍👍👍

@Woodn509 Ай бұрын

Only just caught up, not been getting notifications, definitely need to work smarter 😂, couple of blocks of wood to keep her in the air, never would have caught me working under a tank engine on a crane 🤭. Incredible the work going into something that looks so simple, clearly been out in the elements for while! Floating balls and no race in sight! That box looks beyond repair, I could be wrong, but you indicate that it would be expensive, by comparison, to replace. Could always make a yellow jacuzzi!!

@SimonJones-iv5zh Ай бұрын

And the FB post makes sense now, OMG it is a can of worms. I think Lord Muck has fallen bad for this machine, not one orange glove in sight, using precision tools and the outro sat in the skip. I think this is getting the full work over and respray no matter what we say :)

@peterfarbrace3604 Ай бұрын

Got to be worth a quick hunt around to see whats about and at what price..... just as you say some folk will want silly money for them but there are some that may be reasonable. If not rebuild as the next option. Another great vid 👍

@andyhoare3993 Ай бұрын

If the bearings are available got to be worth trying a rebuild, assuming they're not made of unobtanium.

@dominicwebb8000 Ай бұрын

Keep the great videos coming. Couple of decent bearing websites that allow you to put either imperial or metric sizes in … might be a starting point.

@dantheman7370 Ай бұрын

I used to have one, the steering shaft was knackered, I got a series 2 landrover shaft and box, custom made a bracket to bolt it to, attached it to the pitman arm and it worked a treat

@LordMuck Ай бұрын

I need a LHD one.

@jimrawlings8567 Ай бұрын

If it was me, I'd try and rebuild it. Old pushbikes / motorbikes and the like may well have had similar races and bearings. But then it's your time that I'm suggesting you commit not mine. Keep it up LM we all enjoy your content and delivery of it.

@christopherrolfe4543 Ай бұрын

I would try and recon the unit you have

@spannerdog123 Ай бұрын

Rebuild, this far in ,Carry on this worm type steering box will apply to many classic Tractors too, plenty to see here.

@jamessmith7691 Ай бұрын

We have a place called Harbor freight . I bought the exact same set. It works great for all sorts of jobs. I vote to give the dog some biscuits and go grab a pint. Good video mucker !

@LordMuck Ай бұрын

They are the same suppliers 😉 However HF have some really nice stuff we don't have.

@rhubarb130 Ай бұрын

Give it a go at fitting new bearings and seals chances a second hand one might not be much better

@stevenclaeys6252 Ай бұрын

Thank you for another Great video. Cheers

@peterhenson6303 Ай бұрын

She's worth a rebuild I reckon mate! Keep being you.

@jamesfoad9639 Ай бұрын

Far more interesting for use to see you rebuild it,

@johnp1388 Ай бұрын

Rebuild Sir - good work Mucker

@flamingskoda Ай бұрын

People used to fit steering boxes from cars to try and repair small dumpers but the steering would go the opposite way. A steering box from a forward control van like an Austin J4 did work. My dumper has a worm and peg steering box, I think yours is the reciprocating ball type. That's where the loose balls are from. Hope you can get it sorted.

@hansselin9131 23 күн бұрын

Take the steering box a part and see how much are damage and if only the bearings that's not to bad .and if more damage.what chans to find a different box that are good .or a chans to get a steering box from a car

@daviddavies1596 Ай бұрын

Rebuild the steering box Kurt, I’m sure it can be done! Keep up the good work.

@bungle6668 Ай бұрын

I think I would be going with a rebuild mate, i think once properly stripped and cleaned up, it will be a faily simple and cheap operation, after a trip to bearing services for all the neccesary!

@andrewhallam2494 Ай бұрын

Land rover series boxes work, dose on my dumper apart from turn left go's right 😂adds to the fun ,keep up the good work

@ianhaggart1438 Ай бұрын

Nice one sir... 👍🏻.. Good old dumper... wouldn't mind one myself... to cart all my other crap to the dump .. 😅.. stay safe 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@jonkeighley2617 Ай бұрын

I would like to see it repaired as long as it’s still serviceable when it’s finished.

@bobpaterson1845 Ай бұрын

Good video Kurt 👍 i would go for refurb on the original unless the spiral and gears are badly broken, have welded up badly worn gears and then ground them down before admittedly to get it as close to right as possible ended up using a Dremel 🙄😬 do well 👌

@benrichards7397 Ай бұрын

Rebuild the unit you’ve got that way you know it’s a good one. Might be worth strapping it to the handler and drive about to see if it starts incase there’s other problems

@robleary3353 Ай бұрын

Always a laugh, always an education!. 😂

@clairewalton8832 Ай бұрын

I think you should get her up and running and do a raffle for the collies ,

@LordMuck Ай бұрын

I've had a similar idea

@jamesyeo2947 Ай бұрын

great video as always, those marles steering boxes can be quite a pain to rebuild

@LordMuck Ай бұрын

£995 for a fully rebuilt unit !!!!!!!!! 😱😱

@andygough4666 Ай бұрын

@@LordMuck and dont forget the loadall to pick the the drill up as will need to be off a drilling rig lol

@miketaylor8777 Ай бұрын

Excellent video as per usual, definitely rebuild.

@KortechUK Ай бұрын

Disassemble it as much as you can to access the the damage to see if you can reuse the steering box. New bearings should be reasonably priced.

@charleshart6992 Ай бұрын

I'm sure that with your skills and ingenuity you can repair the existing steering box

@johnd7288 Ай бұрын

Try and find a second hand one ! Good work analysis great video !

@axcs0119 Ай бұрын

Give that one a good clean so you can see what all needs replacing. Then if need be look for a replacement unit

@stephenlee2571 Ай бұрын

Stick some new bearings in it mucker, can't wait for the old girl to chug round the yard

@SCronin944 Ай бұрын

I love this series it might explain why on the dumper i have recently bought there is a steering box but the weal and the bar down to it is removed i haven't interacted it yet

@colinsmith6280 Ай бұрын

Got to be a rebuild on the grounds I would like to see how it goes together and the cost of second hand replacement which could be as bad condition as the one you have now ,this is a restoration project ,look forward to the next video.

@stuartrance277 Ай бұрын

Great video as ever, even collie dog seems to be far me interested in this dumper project, than anything else to date , it seems, so , I would like to see a continuation with a strip down & see what is still ok , the damage & want parts may be needed 😊😊😊👍👍Do you own a nice parts washer or paraffin bath 😂😂

@marciabaldwin2506 Ай бұрын

Assuming that steering box is saveable, it would be better to repair it a used replacement could be in worse condition if thats possible better the devil you know as they say mucker. Top quality video as always mucker ❤

@fenlandrob6203 Ай бұрын

Hi Mucker probably rebuild the box if it’s not damaged to much and then the oil will run out! Or try to find reconditioned one because at the end of the day it’s a good useable dumper. Fenland Rob

@TheAde71 Ай бұрын

L&S brownhills will probably have parts to rebuild it

@merlepatterson Ай бұрын

You should be able find a substitute worm drive steering box that might be able to be adapted fairly easy. (something like a heavy duty gate valve worm drive) A 10:1 ratio worm drive box would give you 2.5 revolutions on the steering wheel for a quarter turn on the pitman. So you'd want to think of the ratio you'd like to use.

@anconablue72 Ай бұрын

Definitely strip it , the hard bit is getting it off, have a butchers , bearing prob common size and have a go rebuilding it, gotta be better than risking a second hand one about to go same way.. plus i wanna buy some more raffle tickets 😆

@timlander5915 Ай бұрын

Same problem that I have with my winget 2s. I’ve not even looked at the engine as the steering box is knackered. There is a company (David Cornwallis) in Leominster that rebuilds marles steering boxes but they wanted £850 to do mine!!!! However they do have all the exploded diagrams on their website and will supply the parts I’ve just never got round to working out what parts I need.

@andybeech1054 Ай бұрын

If you can get the part's to rebuild, have a good go👍🏼. DO WELL 👌🏽

@matthewjoss417 Ай бұрын

Rebuild the steering box you have as a second hand one is probably about 1 better than that one , that puller you used also comes with a hydraulic cylinder ,great bit of kit

@MCDDC10 Ай бұрын

A pair of bearings for the steering box are around £60. The steering box on ours was seized completely solid but drowning it in diesel and new bearings had it running smooth

@LordMuck Ай бұрын

The bearings aren't the issue - the chewed up worm gear is

@JeffCullen-m6h Ай бұрын

Ive one of these sat as "garden art" but the steering is perfect on it if you can make use of the the thing for spares your welcome to it.

@LordMuck Ай бұрын

Cheers Jeff, could you drop me a message on insta or FB ?

@JeffCullen-m6h Ай бұрын

@ will do!

@g0fvt Ай бұрын

Being a latent bodger I would be eyeing up something like a Transit, Landrover or old VW steering box. As you rightly said, it was parked up for a reason.

@peterstevens127 4 күн бұрын

Repair it mate try and keep the old going great video

@chrisroberts3479 Ай бұрын

I've repaired many of these dumpers. I've replaced those boxes with anything that's remotely close. I think the last one was out of an old ford Anglia made brackets and job done.

@LordMuck Ай бұрын

So what LHD box do you recommend ?...

@chrisroberts3479 Ай бұрын

The last box was an Anglia 105 box. One on eBay £30. Will need to make brackets but if I remember right the column was almost the right length (close enough)

@r1mein54 Ай бұрын

Lift and hang with the telehandler will be as safe for you as it was for Diesel Creek Matt. Curt, take the pitman loose from the linkage, unbolt it from the frame and work on it in a vise on the bench. I think your Collie just wants it fixed NOW, so you can spend more time with it. Rebuild it and get on with it. Time to drive it in the yard.

@LordMuck Ай бұрын

The worm gear is all chewed up, it's not going to work loose

@mattyerfdog8873 Ай бұрын

Had this issue with one of mine. I just put a series 3 land rover box on it. Downside is the steering wheel is taller.

@LordMuck Ай бұрын

I'd need a Left Hand Drive steering box...

@patrickmeyer1967 Ай бұрын

Disassemble it first to determine the amount of damage to the box. Is the damage so bad that this is a non-reparable unit of could it be made to function with some minor new parts? E.G. Would it still function , but not like a brand new unit if rebuilt?

@douglasmayherjr.5733 Ай бұрын

Seems like you could rebuild that gearbox will a few bearings and seals. I don’t know what parts availability is for those. You’re not trying to rebuild a set of micrometers, it just has to turn. Thanks for the Videos, Kurt.

@TheGingerGenius78 Ай бұрын

I’d keep going if possible just for the education value in your videos ! But time and money may say otherwise !

@johngell4842 Ай бұрын

Do well to rebuild please mukka Nice video 🤠

@stephenfricker7106 Ай бұрын

Rebuild it mucker. Another great interesting video.

@robatkinson5913 Ай бұрын

Easy to rebuild with new balls. It's very similar to the series Land Rover S box. Measure balls to get correct size for ball nut and worm bearings then shim to take out free play

@LordMuck Ай бұрын

It's chewed up and damaged, it's not just a case of replacing bearings.

@Smiler1984 Ай бұрын

Id say rebuild that one if you can mucker keep costs down....but i do still stand by a previous comment that is a bloody clean one still underneath there for her age its worth it for sure

@stevemurphy795 Ай бұрын

Good clean, real visual and see if it just needs the bearing. I don’t think you are planning use it too much so go for an overhaul and keep the money side down but not necessarily the hours 🙄

@paulmyhill4158 Ай бұрын

chuck some new bearings in it, its dumper at the end of the day ,it only needs to turn the wheels . notchy or not and its good to see how things work.

@LordMuck Ай бұрын

I'm not going to put a notch steering box on it FFS

@gogglet72 Ай бұрын

Fix up what you have mukka. Brilliant video one of my favourite series.

@windy1961 Ай бұрын

Love your dog!

@whitestream5233 Ай бұрын

A rebuild looks possible , but could you find another steering box off another vehicle that could be modified to fit? I'm looking forward to the next video mucker as I'm sure you will fix it good. all the best .

@pauljohn6637 Ай бұрын

I’d go with trying to find a second hand steering box. It’s worth getting it up and running. 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇺🇸

@martinwhite7876 Ай бұрын

I am eagerly waiting to see if it will start it I am totally in suspense here. Great content as always

@benjaminengland2663 Ай бұрын

If you can get parts for the box or find numbers on the bearings try rebuilding it be interesting to watch

@DOCTORDROTT Ай бұрын

Steering gearboxes were troublesome from the fault you found. Water damage, no lubrication etc. You should be able to get bearings easy to rebuild it. Some bits were common to other vehicles, like old Landrovers for example. Dumpers were an abused bit of kit on sites. We had nearly 200 where I worked years ago .