Lore Expert Plays Alan Wake 2 | Lake House DLC

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4:55 Stream start for those who want it

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Thank you

[@sethkarma2072]

Much obliged!

[@Endgame_01]

Life saving

[@TheCynicalSpectator]

57:48 "There was a researcher at the OH who had tons of ideas like this. Wish I could remember their name." the person whose name they forgot is Dr. Emily Pope, current bureau's Head of Research (and has been for like, 3 years at this point) lol

[@mickleman52]

to bad she has been stuck in the OH since someone thought it would be a good idea to turn on a magic slide projector (looking at you trench) and have a freshly hired janitors assistant come in and clean up the mess. i even heard the janitor's assistant got less than 5 minutes of orientation before the head janitor went on vacation. i'm just gonna say it... we need FBC reform.

[@k29king1]

Nearly 5 years actually. The events of Control took place in 2019, the events of Lake House take place concurrently in parallel with the events of Saga’s portion of AW2 in September of 2023. 4 years and change. Pope was made head of research by Jesse after she closed the slide projector in 19. Imagine how Emily would have reacted to that Black Rock launcher, she would have geeked out.

[@scapularthyme2399]

They talk about not having contact with HQ(Oldest House) and haven't been able to contact for years

[@humbleservant7797]

I just realized that the 1 random note you find as saga about the cauldera being man made fits the lake house. Its on cauldron lake and goes to sublevels, he was half right. Crazy how remedy brings it all together.

[@Fanostuff0311]

I was so excited to see your reaction to certain things and they did not disappoint (especially with your reaction to the Painted) I also love hearing your opinion on stuff in the game. If it wasn’t for your channel I probably wouldn’t be as knowledgeable in the Remedyverse! The first Alan Wake changed my life in a significant way and your passion for the Remedy games is infectious! Amazing video!

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Love the pfp by the way! And thank you. That's why I don't like watching the trailers so things like this are always my gut reaction. The first Alan Wake is one of my greatest influences in life in a weird way. I know what you mean.

[@writershard5065]

The Lake House is NOT the Lodge at all. They've borrowed ideas (And people) from Hartman's work, but they are not at all the Lodge. Also the "Treshold" she was referring to was Cauldron Lake itself, which is still visible right there from the Lake House.

[@Endgame_01]

I went in expecting that it was.

[@MapOfEurasia]

Those paint monsters scared the hell out of me, LOL! Bro you're gonna love the last part ❤10/10 dlc for me, I absolutely loved it! P.S: Estevez is narrating the lake house story to Saga after the first boss fight with Scratch (according to Remedy patch notes)

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Good to know. Yeah chat clued menin to that near the end.

[@thegeneralissimo6172]

the dark place should NOT have threshold kids on its disposal, it all over if they get it

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

That would begin Topher's villain Arc

[@nadirmuhammad9357]

Immediate candle cove shenanigans ensue

[@Arthus850]

I’m starting to think time in the inside of the Oldest House might be out of sync with the outside, possibly as a side effect of the lockdown. Firstly, we get documents in the AWE expansion of things that happen in Alan Wake 2 that shouldn’t have happened yet in Control’s timeline. Add that with the AWE alert at the end of the expansion which seems to have come from the future, now I’m not sure it did. I think it came from the present, they just don’t know how much time has passed outside. Then there’s the fact that this Lakehouse expansion confirms that from the field agents’ perspective the oldest house has gone dark for four years. Realistically if the Hiss invasion went on for that long the Oldest House the agents inside would have died a long time ago from their resources and supplies running out. No food, no ammo. I think once lockdown lifts, from their perspective only a few weeks/months max would have passed, but they’ll be surprised to find that outside at least four years have passed. Wonder how they’ll explain that to their families and the families of the deceased.

[@mirandagoldstine8548]

I’m beginning to suspect the same thing. I think the Board is somehow manipulating time and space in order for the people trapped inside to think a relatively short people of time has passed as well as somehow causing food to appear (there is a hamper mentioned in Arthurian mythology that states that if food for one person is put in the amount of food found in the hamper goes to enough for a hundred people. Perhaps it is an OoP that is in existence at the Oldest House?)

[@ilregiallo4151]

I agree. It makes sense, since the Oldest House isn't actually in the same space-time continuum of New York, the door is just a threshold: maybe the lockdown created a filter between the time in New York and the time in Oldest House. Or maybe the Board is involved.

[@janetmontalvo6944]

I think this is exactly right. Control 2 is probably going to start only a few days or weeks after the first game (in Jesse’s pov) but at the same time only days after AW2 despite being years apart.

[@mirandagoldstine8548]

@@ilregiallo4151 I thought the same thing.

[@Endgame_01]

I like this theory a lot but there's one thing that doesn't match it: Dylan. When Estevez talks to him he says he hasn't sorn to anyone in a long time. While that might indicate that it's been a few months, it could easily mean a lot longer

[@Blader445]

“Your scientists were so preoccupied with if they could, they didn’t think if they should.”

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Ian Malcolm is a treasure trove of great quotes

[@Blader445]

@@GamingUniversityUoG indeed he is.

[@QuestionableLifeChoices]

seriously though, let's all thank god (or maybe alan) that the creep who created the threshold kids never came to cauldron lake lol. alan was like "i'll fuck a lot of things up but even i have a line"

[@taid7392]

20:46 The loading screen tips said that the Lake House was set up in 2015, I don't recall they mentioned it elsewhere

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Okay cool. I'm sure we had that someone in Control but I don't recall. Need to replay it

[@hopsuu]

It says "2015" on the texture of the document itself but if you read the ingame tooltip for the document it says "July 18" instead, probably for the computer password puzzle. No idea why they did it like that.

[@Endgame_01]

​@hopsuu I noticed that too. Made me look hard at other documents

[@DavidGray-m5c]

“The timeline doesn’t make sense!” *is playing Alan Wake II*😂😂😂

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

The timeline always makes sense I'd you know Doc Brown and think 4th dimensionally lol

[@zombiehippo9477]

This dlc has some interesting lore implications. And it's also quite terrifying at points imo.

[@austingrothe2754]

This whole DLC was suchhhh a huge lore dump and I LOVED it. So many scary/mindblowing implications, especially the scene with Dylan. My jaw literally dropped haha

[@k29king1]

Did you notice during the moments when Scratch showed his presence that it was also followed by the faces of Jules and Diana Marmont? It hints that they have become their very own Scratches. Crazy.

[@Endgame_01]

They showed Dark Presence-filled Alan aka this version of Scratch, followed by the taken Marmonts. Just the same way the base game flashes other taken characters like Thorton, Mulligan and Cynthia. They weren't Scratch brains of themselves

[@marcsoad09]

Yes, they are teasing Control 2, Remedy is also teasing FBC Firebreak. Some of the taken in this DLC look very similar to the playable characters from the new game.

[@QuestionableLifeChoices]

btw i don't think saga and casey got involved until the last couple loops, handful at most. saga has the explicit ability to change and shift the story just by virtue of being a seer. i don't think she would've gotten lost in the loops for too long before being able to push through related to timing, though: i always got the impression the FBC showed up right after saga and casey, once the monitoring station started going off, after speaking to the bookers and waking nightingale. in fact, it was that very manuscript that told us that lol.

[@piratetv1]

The lake house is to the left of the beach where the overlap appears. You can see the lodge way up on the hill in the right. It's new construction in a new plot of land

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

I swear I read something that this is what happened. I feel like I'm going crazy lol

[@starrims]

@@GamingUniversityUoG so, what is the exact timeline of this lake house event? Can you please make detailed timeline explanation please?

[@jettisonantics]

I love the idea that the dark place could manifest martial "arts" into reality. What does that entail? I want to be the first Shadow Fu practitioner.

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

I was thinking maybe Tai chi would be a better form of art. But how does one interpret synchronized swimming? Even the dark presence wouldn't know what to do with that

[@natooo8312]

​@GamingUniversityUoG it would prob leave it as, that level of synchronization is inhuman enough!

[@miracon000fez]

Shadow Fight: irl edition

[@davidr3627]

When Estevez tells her team that they're "on the thresholds doorstep" she's talking about Cauldron Lake. They're right next to the lake, and the FBC monitoring station has detected an active AWE, so Estevez is on high alert for whatever the lake is doing.

[@barkasz6066]

02:46:53 "Who makes a calendar like that?!" Everyone in the world lmao. Who the hell starts the week with Sunday? That's so weird. The week starts with Monday and *ends* with Sunday. It's called the week-*end* not the week-start. Sorry Dean, this is the one hill I'm going to die on. Monday to Sunday and YYYY/MM/DD or DD/MM/YYYY is the superior time format.

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Feels like only Americans have this problem since we seem to be the only ones who do things the other way around lmao.

[@piratetv1]

The frequency hopping Hedy Lamarr invented is still used as part of the bluetooth protocol

[@Khony]

It's always interesting and a pleasure watching you play and analyze remedy verse. Thank you again!

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Absolutely! I love going through these games. Especially first time

[@delmattia96]

I am at 2:28:45 and ... I believe that there might be a small window of time where this might have actually happened. The Lake House replies to us at the beginning of the game if we ring the facility. They refuse to speak, obviously, but they reply so someone is there! Tammy and Ed get in an argument not long after we meet them, so... it's possible that he was kidnapped just hours before everything went down and not long before Estevez came to check on the Lake House after being called for Back Up.

[@Endgame_01]

I had long suspected that Ed was grabbed by Lakehouse personnel. I figured he just wandered somewhere he shouldn't have and they detained him. No idea he and Tammy were targeted by the FBC. She's lucky she went on a ferry ride

[@k29king1]

There’s a contingent of people whom claim to be disappointed by the DLC and say it’s not good, and I could not disagree more. Its always the people whom know the least of the lore that tend to be the loudest. I love how this is parallel to the events if AW2, while Saga is dealing with Overlaps, Keiran is dealing with her own Mad Scientist overlaps and paint monsters.

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

I mean there are some design choices I would change, some bugs and not enough combat. But atmosphere, acting, lore and teases of future events is top tier. The simple fact we get to see a typical AWE response in action is incredible

[@dylanwilliams430]

I know this is the lake house - but the lake lodge was turned into a monitoring station. I do not think the Lake House is directly next to the lake, but the lodge is. The lodge is literally a monitoring station, similar to the one we run into in the beginning of Alan Wake 2, only on a larger scale - and likely gathering the intel that the station we run into relays off to the FBC.

[@urhomarkkanen]

2:46:50 In Finland our calendar weeks begin on a Monday and end on a Sunday, someone at Remedy might have been a little used to home while making that

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Seems the whole world does it this way except for us

[@elrevesyelderecho]

2:00:44 like most in science... because they can do it, they don't ask themselves if they should do it.

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

What irks me is that their mission statement is to study controlling the entities that come from the Dark Place. NOT research how to manipulate reality.

[@reifuTD]

2:34:51 Oooosh More shots fired at toxic modern writing tropes in the industry. Remedy is on fire with the commentary in this storyline.

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Dude I was not expecting this but I am all here for it!

[@reifuTD]

@@GamingUniversityUoG I find the commentary interested because that's is what Remedy was being accused of doing or have done to them with the whole Saga Anderson race swamp controversy. So I feel like they they could be trying to make a statement on the issue and show how they feel about the issues of the accusations around them in some way.

[@mickleman52]

Anyone else feel like there is probably going to be an update to help balance out this DLC, similar to what they did with night springs (I remember one of the update notes saying they went a bit heavy handed with ammo/health at launch which was not their intention)? The painted are way to over powered for how little healing there is, and there seems to be no way to avoid being grabbed by them at times. At first I thought maybe the trick was not running and being slow/careful around them as it seemed to take a few seconds for them to pull themselves off the wall. However, not all of them seem to behave this way and will just instantly jump you with no warning and leave you with next to no health/insta kill you. edit 10/28: called it PC Patch 1.2.3 Notes: 1) Balanced the amount of health items, so that there are more to be found. Stay healthy! 2) Reduced the damage caused by the Painted’ s grapple

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

I'll just run away. Because yeah I didnt have enough ammo to take even one down so it's not worth attempting

[@austingrothe2754]

This DLC was SOOOOO hard haha I died so much

[@Isow23]

Ngl the painting monsters pissed me off when I was playing the dlc at first.

[@wikkidspork]

As I'm sure yall have noticed by now there is a special weapon to kill those things lol. Otherwise avoid them

[@mickleman52]

@@GamingUniversityUoG called it lol! Patch notes today say they added more health and lowered the damage of the painted grapple.

[@fatidicusaeternus6498]

SPOILER 1:12:10 Poe literally manifested this technique with her song from Diana's office - I guess it´s the key to escape

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

I noticed that upon finding it! I am still freaking out about the POE reveal.

[@Torr3697]

I really love your videos and your lore details, but I have to say that you have a tendency to ignore the obvious answer for more complicated ones. Like thinking the Lakehouse was the threshold mentioned instead of Cauldron Lake, or having the theory that the maintenance being mentioned in the Oldest House but seeing it being done 4 years later means that they’re in a time loop instead of it just being repaired multiple times, which is mentioned in the Control document as well. It means that you come to some conclusions that I probably wouldn’t have even considered, which is awesome, but also that you sometimes miss the trees for the forest. It’s mind blowing when you get something that makes total sense, but frustrating when you miss something that seems obvious to me. It really makes this my favorite channel to watch!

[@Torr3697]

One instance of that is with Zane. You took Jesse saying that she always remembers him as a poet instead of a filmmaker, Saga knowing him as a filmmaker, along with Alan calling him a fictional poet, as evidence that the Dark Place changed their memories. This is despite the fact that all 3 seem to be immune to the Dark Place’s memory altering ability. Personally the simpler answer to me seems to be just human fallibility. Jesse believes that she remembers it wrong not because her memory was altered, but because she never found any evidence that the poet was real and eventually just accepted that she must have misremembered it. After all, she’s remembering a book of poems she read as a child years later, and it would be easy to be convinced that you just remembered something wrong rather than believe that reality has been altered. Saga knows him as a filmmaker despite being immune to alterations because she never knew the information before. No alteration to be immune to if you had no info to alter. And Alan is sorta a combination of the two. Yes he knew him as the Poet, but only when he encountered him at Cauldron lake, and the next time they met Zane tells him that it was just a role he played. So Alan believed Zane, because he has no evidence otherwise and the dude himself is providing a probable explanation, along with him dealing with a shoddy memory. Once he gets out and remembers the actual book of poems he may start to suspect that it was an alteration, but who knows. I honestly would consider that aspect even more intriguing, because if you only realize something has been altered when you have knowledge of it beforehand and an overwhelming disbelief for what the new reality says, how much could have been altered over the years. How many times do they “remember something wrong” when what really happened was an alteration that affected the world and everything else, and just convinced you because you weren’t sure about the truth

[@Endgame_01]

You forget that Cynthia Weaver remembers that Zane was a poet and she doesn't understand why people say he was a filmmaker.

[@Torr3697]

@@Endgame_01 no, I’m not forgetting that, I’m saying that even if someone was immune to having their mind manipulated like they are doesn’t mean they’ll know the truth. It just means that anything old that they know won’t be changed. If for example Dylan Faden were to show up and he hadn’t read those poems that Jesse kept hidden, he would know Zane as a filmmaker. Not because he isn’t also immune to having his memories changed, but because he had no memories to get changed. Being immune doesn’t magically grant you the knowledge of what reality actually was, you have to already know it for it to remain unchanged. Otherwise you absorb the new false reality, because there is no way to learn otherwise. I guess what I’m saying is that I don’t think that people who are immune have some sense for what was actually real, they don’t hear Zane is a filmmaker and think that’s wrong unless they already knew him as a poet, and they are still human and can be convinced otherwise if they only heard of him as a poet in that hazy way you might remember someone acting in a movie you saw 20 years ago. The only ones who know and remain sure that Zane was a poet are those who actually knew him in life. Alan Wake has barely any memory at all, or could be under the impression that Zane being a poet was the false reality. Jesse remembers him as the author of a book of poems she liked, but she’s also had over a decade of no evidence and others showing evidence that Thomas Zane was a filmmaker to eventually convince her she’s remembered wrong. And Saga never heard of him before at all, so she just knows him as what reality seems to show, which is that he was a filmmaker.

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

It wasn't just a a misremembering. She spent so much time in her therapy sessions convinced of this fact since childhood. Even after being confronted about the Filmmaker thing by her therapist she still refused to accept it. Only after the Door opened was she instantaneously convinced. I won't discuss my full rationale here but trust that I have a full video planned on the Filmmaker that I hope makes my position on it all clear.

[@Endgame_01]

Looking forward to it

[@frazer4737]

Everywhere in the world monday starts first

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Apparently America is just a rebel on our calendars lol

[@frazer4737]

@@GamingUniversityUoG 😂😂

[@why772]

First place I go to when Remedy drops something now is your channel. AW2 was my first experience from them and idk why really, but nothing intrigues me as much as this world they have created. I know they take inspiration from a lot of things, but to me there's nothing else that can really scratch that itch like they do.

[@BangerangEliko]

@1:22:07 im sure this DLC is commentary on producing content for the sake of "results" [monetization ] rather than creating something to be enjoyed or made feel. the metaphor of "PRODUCE CONTENT TO BE CONSUMED"

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

100% also the AI thing. It's very on the nose. A lot of what the theming was involved the Emotion that went into the art. If the emotion wasn't pure, like with the Marmonts, it would not be true art. Their emotion was vindictiveness and pure analysis rather than love for the work.

[@Spiralobsession]

WTF there are people who actually prefer Sunday first calendars? I hate those. Monday is where the week starts.

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Lmao I think it's just an American thing. I've NEVER seen a calendar start on a Monday. Apparently only us and some asian countries do it that way. We also refuse to use the Metric system because 'Murica

[@TheHi-NoteFunClub-BeatsByMike]

The sound design of the alarm at 44:25 is perfect.

[@Dragracer154]

14:14 and 43:00 you can definitely see the elevator shaft going in to the ground from the center of the building.

[@Endgame_01]

Exactly this. Dean has a great eye for most things so I was really surprised he missed that

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

I saw the pillars supporting it but not the elevator shaft apparently. A later manuscript page confirms that anything below the main level is below the water level of the lake.

[@Endgame_01]

2:21:35 Estevez was only called to Cauldron Lake after Saga comes out of the first overlap because that sets off the AWE alert. Ed was grabbed between then and Estevez arriving at the Lakehouse. Lane must have already finished his self-portrait by then and the Marmonts and their faculty become taken just before Estevez gets there, leaving Ed locked in his cell with his bad writing

[@Xehanort10]

9:09 I think it's after Scratch reveals himself since after he kills Jaako and Saga drives him off with the lights you can ask Estevez what happened at the Lake House.

[@reddfriend]

I have a theory that the figure at the end of the Control 2 teaser is Alice Wake at some point in the spiral.

[@reddfriend]

The outfit is almost identical to the one when she unalived herself on tape

[@starrims]

I love your work man!

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Appreciate it!

[@starrims]

@@GamingUniversityUoG I am control Fan too, though I did not deep dive too much like you do but it's still feels amazing to not know every single thing and feel the vast ness of the universe haha. Control was the game that triggers me into other remedy games and absolutely loved their ideas! What an exceptional thinking they give in. Control, Alan Wake, Quantum break are my top 3 game ever!

[@Endgame_01]

Part of the Lakehouse is on pillars but there is an elevator shaft running down the center, which obviously leads to the 5 sublevels.

[@blahblahgdp]

love that the FBC really is a mirror to the SCP foundation

[@Nintentohtori]

To be fair, the monday first is the international format I'm pretty sure.

[@NikoJokipalo]

It is. It's part of ISO date standard, which makes sense the FBC use, in addition to metric units, since they are hyper-focused on the sciency stuff. Monday is also first day of the week in much of the world apart from the Americas and part of Asia. I'd also think this was done purely as a gag to throw off Americans

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

We Americans just do things backwards to troll the rest of the world. We refuse to use the metric system too lol

[@elrevesyelderecho]

1:19:03 That's right!!! I said the same!!! at this point!!! hahahahaha

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

That is the most insane idea I've ever seen the FBC attempt. And that's saying something

[@Endgame_01]

You missed out on an elevator bit Dean. After encountering the painting entity, you are supposed to try going to sublevel two but the elevator drops you on sub three instead.

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Yep we figure this out a bit further on. Seems like a lot of people had this problem.

[@Colex_ykf]

Lmao when I walked into that typewrite room, I was like “you got to be fucking kidding me dude, this is not good” 😂

[@JcGross93]

I love how Ed's writing is just some terrible cliche schlock.

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

I'll have comments on that in part 2. Might even make a full video which touches on it

[@TheLevitatingFleem]

I was cracking up listening in on him as he wrote lmao

[@Endgame_01]

I think he can't affect the threshold because he's such an uninspired hack. 😂

[@JonathonSwinney2814]

1:21:09 They have all of Alan's Night Springs scripts too (which means they should have the original that Alan adapted into American Nightmare)

[@CallMeKes]

Whoa, at first glance, the second (I think) encounter with the angry painting (at 2:02:54 ) was REALLY reminiscent of Dylan's cell in Control. Like a mix of his main cell and the one they put him in in the main area. It even looks like him floating in the second cell.

[@elrevesyelderecho]

35:58 Hope one day Sam contact you asking for a small task: check that everything in Control 2 is in line with everything that has been pulled out regarding to FBC's events / documentation / Names, etc.,

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Dude I would happily oblige! I know Clay and Sam have seen sonenof my stuff. Just not sure to what extent

[@Xehanort10]

1:45:09 I think for Return Alan retconned the Dark Presence from an ancient eldritch being to his own darkness released after Saga shot him with the Bullet of Light. Giving it an origin so him and Saga could beat it and trap it in the loop while he escaped the Dark Place.

[@WatchMeWatchStuff]

Lol, that's the same save point I stopped at cuz I had to sleep. Though I did stay up for the 5am drop of the DLC lol

[@marcsoad09]

Lol, me too. I stopped playing to eat and watch the stream

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

I wish I could have! I was so tempted just to take yesterday off work to play all day

[@czdot]

Yeah, absolutely perfect timing with the Capmbell video and the release of the game. 😀

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

I'm not a psychic I promise haha

[@czdot]

@@GamingUniversityUoG I must say this DLC was pretty good. "Control without powers" was quite scary at times. Can't wait to see Control 2. Would you believe people missed the Dylan scene!?

[@novachikun]

I don't think Jesse would have an easier time than anyone else. In Control we saw that the Dark saps Jesse of her energy, quickly removing her powers if she isn't able to light up the area and remove the oppressive power of the Dark Presence.

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

She got lucky in the Oldest House because of all the Energy Cells which contain its own power versus this place which runs largely on regular electricity. Seems they only had energy cells in small amounts and only as backup for localized areas. Jesse would basically be without powers and only have the Service Weapon.

[@TheWayfinder1]

2:01:43 “they asked themselves can they but they never asked themselves if they should.”

[@fleurrouge606]

First thought was that the circles were someone mimicking fairy rings. Seeing how stupid and dangerous the lake house is maybe someone was trying to summon the fair folk. Wouldn’t surprise me. Wonder if some parts of the manuscripts Jules (Still think he’s named after Jules Verne.)and Diana found were written by Ed explaining the difference in style they noted though that requires time to be warped somehow. Would explain why Alan sounded a bit off while reading the pages they’re not all him.

[@dr.catherineelizabethhalse1820]

I wonder if ”cursed” people/entities (Takens and such) are parroting Wake’s pages because they were cursed only because of his writing. So Alan did not just describe events which would happen or only steer already happening horrors but actually fully was the reason these people got their horrible fate.

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

In the first game the Taken had dialogue which was unique to the individual. They did not quote the manuscripts at all. So the rules have changed with Return as opposed to Departure.

[@ilregiallo4151]

I really hope Langston's cat is ok.

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Oh god I didn't even think about that. 4 years in lockdown and Alfred is off with the neighbor looking in on him. Poor thing.

[@ventusthekey5187]

I wonder what the Marmonts relationship looked like before Alan stuck his shadowy little fingers in it. I don't think the fbc would allow two people who are married but don't work well together be in charge of such an important project. Edit: just got to the automatic Alan story writer. They may actually be that stupid. Also the Dark presence itself calling out ai art is hilarious.

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Calling out AI art along with a reveal near the end about a certain singer is the highlight of the DL for me.

[@dgc1570]

I didn't realize that the Night Springs DLC also had dropped

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Haha yeah dude that was several months back. It was a good time.

[@starrims]

I want control 2 to be in Oldest House again (at least 50% of it) and doing stuff and not be too horrific as Alan Wake 2!

[@elrevesyelderecho]

1:58:21 ChatGPt plugged into the Lake makes me wonder if in real life the AI uses a Quija board.

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Don't put that voodoo out there lmao

[@joshuaholt4162]

Don’t know if anyone debunk this yet for him but there’s an elevator shaft underneath in photomode under the lake house there is the brut column for the elevator

[@daphne8406]

02:20 Could it be this DLC happens sometime during AW2 but before AW exits the lake and ends up at the sherrif’s office? FBC went to the lakehouse first (and got stuck there for a while) and only after these events went into town to take over the case from Saga? 🤔

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

What I've learned since the stream is this occurs just after Alan/Scratch is released from the Lake. Seems like Ed was not in captivity for very long. Make a day or two.

[@Keyh]

I mean.... there are arguments/theories that the Mandela Effect is real life Retconning itself. That the memories aren't completely purged, they are left over in some people. Retconning is real.

[@elrevesyelderecho]

29:27 This is the kind of play-through that I was expecting for. If there is someone that knows all FBC documents better than Sam Lake is you. Or at least understand their organised - bureaucratic way to keep all recorder. A 3 hours video, with a second part coming. I am wondering you barely reach the second sub-level taking notes, and reading all documents founded.

[@thomasdaugas4421]

Hello, First, I'm glad to see you back once more in the world of Alan Wake, I llike all your content regarding the Remedyverse. I really like Remedy's work, but I really have a problem with the fact the Odlest House is still in lockdown. I mean, the events in Control (DLCs included) took place in 3-4 days top. So, in this time, they manage to stop the invasion of the Hiss, but after 4 years, they still struggle with the remnants of the attack ? With HRAs and Jesse's abilities ? It doeasn't sound right to me. I really hope Remedy find a good reason for that, and not some cheap ones like "they are stuck in a time loop" or "time passes by differently in the Oldest House" because these come with serious inconsistencies. Oh, and for the timeline about Ed Booker's abduction, I think it happened jsut after he was interrogated by Sage, possibly when Saga was performing the autopsy on Nightingale. Remenber, the AWE doesn't start before that, as the FBC station in the woods is quiet the first time we go there.

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

From what a buddy of mine said the events of this dlc take place after Alan emerged from the lake and is back st the lodge with Saga and Casey

[@thomasdaugas4421]

@@GamingUniversityUoG Oh, OK. It makes sense, thanks.

[@Blader445]

I’m currently working through the DLC at the moment, but what if Alan’s typewriter from the first game is an Altered Item or Object of Power? Alice bought it for him (or it was in Bright Falls?) at the start of Alan Wake 1.

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Yeah Alice bought it for him. The funny thing about the Typewriter is that reality altering affects have nothing to do with it at all. I think Control fans got the wrong impression that it was the OoP and did it all when the Dark Place is where the power comes from. That being said. Because the fan base is so focused on it and has such strong beliefs that it IS an OoP. Who knows if the fans caused it to become altered after the fact.

[@Blader445]

@@GamingUniversityUoG I agree. My other more meta takeway (so far) from the Lake House is how larger studios or companies churn through artists (and writers) like how the Marmonts used Lane. The biggest common factor among KZbinrs, the video game industry, and the larger entertainment industry as a whole is burnout and employees leaving. This (to me) feels sort of like Remedy talking more so about their previous bad publishers (Microsoft, Rockstar, and Epic games have all had some level of employee scandal around overworked staff) since they’re trying to be more independent. “A thousand paintings. A thousand more. Art was not art. It was merely content. …Paint lined his fingers…” No wonder anyone would hate their own medium.

[@robertgreen7593]

Everyone makes Monday the first day of the week. USA does everything differently to the rest of the world.

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

I just learned that during the stream lol. Americans do everything weird. No metric system either

[@fatidicusaeternus6498]

Okay so is Ed Booker responsible for injecting Saga Anderson into the story? It's not something Alan would come up with, unlike Casey who was clearly conjured by Alan.

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

I don't believe so in this case. I mention in part 2 some things about Ed but it doesn't affect Return. Alan mentions he saw her in a vision and wrote her in as the hero for return.

[@elrevesyelderecho]

50:02 You're not the only one. Yes!! Monsters at Freddy's level.

[@11679MRT]

I thought The Lake House was the location of where Alan's cabin for the first game was ...at least the shoreline..

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Birds Leg Cabin hasn't been there since 1970. It only briefly appeared in 2010 did to the story summoning it into existence. I need to review my notes for Control because I could have sworn it was the lodge reused

[@11679MRT]

@GamingUniversityUoG I'm sure you're right - I assumed because of the name it was built in the proximity of the original cabin(lake house).

[@Endgame_01]

You aren't wrong Dean. It was supposed to be Hartman's clinic. Someone in the comments mentioned that the house is behind the facility so it looks like they built this place on the same property

[@Endgame_01]

Also, I'm replaying AW1 and I noticed that you can clearly see Diver's Isle from the clinic observation deck next to the sundial. There is no cabin on it but it is definitely the island

[@sujitwarrier4857]

I thought the HRA's will be made standard gear for all agents.

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

They did. But they were built internally at the Oldest House and handed out right before the lockdown. They were not even able to manufacture enough for House staff let alone ship them all over the country to other facilities. Wouldn't be needed since Hiss were not there anyway.

[@liquidrufus]

Perhaps Hartmans lodge was demolished to be replaced by the lake house?

[@TheLevitatingFleem]

That’s kinda what I thought but I’ve heard conflicting things in the comments/reddit so I’m not sure yet (unless the dlc confirmed this and I haven’t seen it yet)

[@liquidrufus]

@@TheLevitatingFleem Just me guessing.

[@elrevesyelderecho]

35:57 Shut out and take my money!! As I said on my previous comment...that's why I'm here and you are the man!

[@robertgreen7593]

Humans think they are special but all we are is an organic AI, OI. When you look into the basics of how AI works and apply it to humans all human behaviour makes sense.

[@elrevesyelderecho]

38:09 Best couple ever!! I am going to book marriage couple session with them next week to improve my marriage : )

[@elrevesyelderecho]

46:52 hahah Yeah. Love that video.

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

My crystal ball told me to get it ready lol

[@imjustherefortehlulz]

Sunday is the first day of the week

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

America doesn't agree lmao. We are the only ones apparently. Yeah in retrospect it makes sense but our calendars begin with Sunday.

[@Colex_ykf]

Wait is this the new dlc ??

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

Haha yeah! It just dropped yesterday

[@Colex_ykf]

@@GamingUniversityUoG shit man, didn’t even realize it was out . fml

[@TheHi-NoteFunClub-BeatsByMike]

1:26:45 I think the overal subtextual commentary here is: Pettiness, erraticness, ego - these are qualities encountered in some collaborative artistic endevors, frequently enough to be a known "cliche" - but usually they are encountered reeeeeaaaal early in an individual's journey into art and are immediate indicators that no art or artist is possible or present given such default conditions and resulting processional steps. The point being: believing that cliched horsepucky about how great or even TRUE art is created by temperamental yet somehow almost precognitively talented and brave genius artists is fundementally flawed and it only acts to perpetuate the success of strict formula as opposed to applied artistic craft. The fundemental flaw - lest we forget, given a foundation of courtesy and respect is necessary for "civilized" individuals to not just co-exist, but have their thoughts, beliefs, and emotions given the freedom of self choice necessary when applied to those practices best defined as "main point toward 'what it actually means to be human'/'our ability to create expressive forms and processes demonstrating the beauty of humanity's place in reality... You know, like creating art, which, remember... ALL art is subjective. And the first to INSIST or FORCE their will, their vision, onto any project being created by multiple individuals, who, for the most part, proceede using those simple civil foundations as their default - that erractic, petty, etc... individual isn't an artist... That person is just a blustering, uninspired asshole. Regardless of having some quality artistic ideas from time to time, or the degree of "talent" they might possess. In all things, though there are certainly those who do, very few of us truly live "on our own" or under a rock... Every it that can be conceived truly requires a village. Just my thoughts.

[@austingrothe2754]

Dawg I love your videos, but you walked right past so much stuff because you were hyperfocused on reading specific documents or looking for things not necessarily directly related to this story

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

By the end of the streams we captured everything I promise. got to revisit floors once I got the tier 3 keycard.

[@Colex_ykf]

Wait is this the new dlc ??

[@GamingUniversityUoG]

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