lorelai & luke (432)

[@keshealm]

First off Lauren Graham acted her butt off in this scene.. Also that line your the one I want to want is one of the best lines I've ever heard...

[@mystery8895]

I was just about to say Lauren Graham can act her ass off. Like she’s amazing…. she played that fuckin role in this scene ❤️

[@mikeprussock6073]

I thought it corny as hell. It was just like her saying to Rory she wanted to love Max but she didn't.

[@lauriecarson6483]

​@@mikeprussock6073 well your the only one who thinks it corney. It was a great line.

[@mikeprussock6073]

I thought it was the corniest lines that was ever mentioned in the history of television shows.

[@chynnaalexisss]

I love this scene, Lorelai realizing that Luke is the one🥺

[@pretty4princess]

Same! Such a powerful scene

[@alessandraponto6195]

Bye Christopher 👋👋👋

[@Candybrianwhite]

her and Luke been having feelings for each other

[@nadimabbas4093]

This scene is about Lorelai realizing her marriage to Christopher isn't working not that she wants to be with Luke

[@bethanyjohns3398]

yep yep as it should be🥺 lore and luke are soulmates

[@michalkatec.6841]

Lauren Graham is such a beautiful actress, she put her entire heart into this show

[@mikeprussock6073]

And Scott didn't?

[@mikeprussock6073]

Lauren wouldn't have been as great as she was without Scott who never gets enough credit. Gilmore Girls wouldn't have been what it was without Scott. He played the hell out of that roll.

[@jarleyquinn8715]

​@@mikeprussock6073true but don't make it sound like Lauren and Alexis didn't do anything besides talk fast

[@mikeprussock6073]

@@jarleyquinn8715 I'm not.

[@jarleyquinn8715]

@@mikeprussock6073 ur first sentence is literally "Lauren wouldn't have been great without Scott"

[@dietdrpepper15]

'the man I WANT to want', is kinda actually her having needed him to step up and be there for her but he never was and never would be. Luke was that person. Lorelai wanted Chris to be someone he wasn't, for years. Glad she could finally let go of her ideal of him, and her and him, and come to see it would never be right.

[@a.edwards3064]

This scene never fails to make me cry. Lauren Graham is just such an amazing actress. Her tears just break my heart into pieces.

[@Max-nm9qh]

Lauren acted really well in this scene

[@lauriecarson6483]

Lauren acted re all will in the entire series

[@chelsifortenberry5967]

You can tell Lorelai is in pain over not being able to get over the guy from her past who’s hurt her a lot and not being in love with the man who’s trying to make up for the pain he’s out her through. I don’t like Christopher whatsoever but he did grow a lot, but I just never understood how they could be so understanding and forgiving of him barely being involved for 16 years and coming back every once in awhile thinking he still deserves a place in their lives.

[@dietdrpepper15]

Right? It was as if 'as soon as Chris gets his life right then we will all be together and skip and eat ice cream'. Ignoring the fact that Rory isn't a child, she has grown up, he missed everything with his 1st kid. And you can't restart the family ideal over again now that one person is finally ready.

[@SukmyPikachu]

Well I don't think Lorelei did forgive him. Her trust issues were always there and it's what led to her not being able to live him.

[@Gizo02]

Clearly Lorelai had to date Christopher at some point during the show’s run. I think it would have been better had they dated properly and for longer earlier on, maybe around seasons 2-3, before eventually breaking up. Lorelai’s friendship with Luke, could have caused some strain there. Slowly breaking up Lorelai and Luke in season 6, so that she could date and then break up with Christopher in a rushed way within a few episodes in season 7, before the eventual reconciliation with Luke again, felt like a complete waste.

[@ghouling1111]

it's important to note that The show writers were losing more and more power over the direction of the show because of network slowly pushing them out. thats why the last season is so strange.. the last 2 seasons so much was going on behind the seasons that really hurt the show.

[@armanhammer18]

Omg I am a huge fan of GG and I never thought about this theory. Yes, it would’ve made more sense for them to date earlier on. The writers decided to get Sherry pregnant and so we lost that opportunity early on. Season 4 could’ve had them dating instead of introducing Jason. Or they should’ve gotten together after Luke & Lorelai’s first breakup in season 5. They probably did this in season 7 with the hopes of getting renewed for a season 8. At the time, s7 was airing on the cw which had just been created the previous year so I’m sure they were trying to stretch the storyline but ultimately failed.

[@mikeprussock6073]

@@armanhammer18 I still think Lorelai disrespected Luke that entire series. She flouted his no cellphone policy. She constantly used to many tables so that other customers couldn't use them. You don't disrespect someone's business like she did. And you could tell he wss getting tired of it himself. And it was ok for Lorelai to be in a relationship but she didn't want Luke to be in one. And I don't buy that Lorelai had to marry Christopher and put Luke through hell to finally realize Christopher wasn't right for her. Christopher said it himself. He should have known it took him 20 years to finally say yes to them getting married. I think Lorelai was to emotionally immature to be in a relationship with Luke. And there were to many red flags for Luke not to get romantically involved with Lorelai. She failed to show up to help him paint the diner in season one. And she lied to him and hid things from him before they even got into a relationship. I know Luke totally did that whole April thing wrong. But I still believe Anna sent April into Luke's Diner to set him up. Because it was mentioned that Anna was involved with 3 different men when April was conceived. How come we never saw the other two men only pictures. It was just assumed Luke was the father. And how come Anna was never mentioned anywhere in that series until they knew the series was coming to an end. The only reason April was brought into it was because there wasn't enough time left for Luke and Lorelai to have a child together so she was brought into it to break up Luke and Lorelai. And why try so hard to get Luke and Lorelai together and try so hard to break them up. They weren't even together for very long before They broke them up the first time. It never made any sense to split them up If They wanted them two to be each other's endgame. That whole series never made any sense.

[@visionfh]

LAUREN’S ACTING DUUUUDDDEEE ABSOLUTELY PERFECT

[@crishill4908]

Chris is not a bad guy. I forgot this scene and I'm glad I've been able to rewatch it. Fandom's can be so bipartisan about ships which I understand but I don't think it's fair Chris is painted as a villain. He does love Lorelai, but 1. Lorelai isn't in love with him in the same way, just the idea of him, and 2. He can't show that love in a healthy way. It's right they're not together at the end. But he does love both Lorelai and Rory, and as proven by how gracefully he handled this and how he took responsibility for pushing Lorelai, he does self reflect and ultimately want the best for them deep down.

[@crishill4908]

@@crcr-km8je to be fair I think he did actually take responsibility for his part in this scene, he recognised he pushed Lorelai into marriage so that he felt comfortable/secure, not because he actually wanted to be married, and she recognised he was essentially a huge rebound in the aftermath of Luke, and she didn't want to be married either. You're definitely right that they're both immature af and have big problems communicating, and tbf Lorelai's had this problem in every relationship she's been in. But Chris definitely has this problem too. However (and I know this might be an unpopular opinion) I still think he's a better guy than Luke, I feel like I see Chris reflect and communicate more than we see Luke do. Both most of the characters on GG are selfish and have problems with maturity and communication :)

[@crishill4908]

@@crcr-km8je no need to apologise, I appreciate your perspective! It's definitely a read of his character I didn't personally experience so it's insightful in gaining understanding on why so many people love him, and reading what you got from watching him I understand why you do too. We can definitely agree that the classism he faced from many in Lorelai's circle was awful and completely undeserved, and he definitely was there for Rory too albeit in a kind of emotionally distant way but, given him and Lorelai weren't involved until she was an adult and he wasn't Rory's Dad, this makes sense and is actually doing a lot more than he needed to considering they weren't at all related. And I agree he did go out of his way to help the people he cared about. He definitely has good qualities. But I also find him to be intolerant, closed off, dismissive, petty, surly and occasionally aggressive to the point of it looking cruel? Part of what makes GG such an interesting show is the way these characters are layered and I don't think there are any outright heroes/good people (ok that's a lie Lane is and I love her and I wish she had a better ending on the show), and there aren't any outright villains either, all of them have pros and cons, but what can make the show frustrating is not seeing them learn, grow and change. I feel like when the show ended and even in the revival, Lorelai still had a lot of growing and changing to do that we don't get to personally see, and Luke does too (although I think the show tried with introducing April). Based on how I read the show, I actually felt I saw more character growth from Christopher than Luke, that may be a benefit to him being a secondary character so we don't have to spend as much screen time giving him an arc, but I felt Luke still had a lot of growing to do when the show & revival ended that we didn't get to see. Just my perspective though! :)

[@loveGG3]

I don't think Chris is a villain in terms of his relationship with Lorelai. He's just not the right guy. However, in the area of being Rory's father he certainly is a villain. He was never around he never bothered. And even in a few seasons when he did start coming around occasionally it never last long. And even when he was there he's mostly busy with Lorelai and not Rory. Look at when he came to Sookie's wedding. He's with Lorelai during the entire engagement part, all night the night before, and then at the reception/party before the wedding. We see him talk to Rory once but that's about him and Lorelai's relationship. Granted it has an impact on Rory because of the possibility of them all being a family but it's like without Lorelai he'd have no reason to interact with Rory at all.

[@loveGG3]

@@crcr-km8je I agree. Obviously Max and Chris were not right but it was completely Lorelai's fault. She KEPT going back to Chris and giving him more and more chances (some maybe deserved and some not).

[@crishill4908]

@@loveGG3 I've been thinking about this and I have to respectfully disagree! The thing with Chris is I don't think he knows HOW to be a Dad to Rory. With Gigi he's been there since the beginning, he knows her, he knows how to be a Dad to her. Because Lorelai and Chris were so young when they had Rory he wasn't there, which I don't think makes him a villain but a kid. He just didn't know how to do any better. When he was finally coming into a place as an adult where he could provide that for Rory and Lorelai, he finds out about Gigi. Understandably, as Rory is nearly an adult at this point, he figures he doesn't want to repeat his mistakes and leave another little kid without a present Dad, so he steps in (during what is admittedly the absolute worst timing in the world at Sookie's wedding). As the years go by and Rory and Lorelai and Chris get older, there are several points where Lorelai and Rory have an opportunity to communicate with Chris so he can actually get to know them better, particularly Rory. Finding out Lorelai and Chris got married was a perfect moment for both of them to talk honestly to Chris about how Rory was really feeling; she chose not to. I think Chris gets blamed a lot for not understanding Rory, and there is SOME validity to that although again, he missed Rory's formative years because he himself was a child and didn't know better, but especially as Rory get's older I don't think it's fair to just put it down to Chris, because someone can only get to know you as far as you're willing to let them in. Rory never really let's Chris in. So how is Chris meant to know he's letting her down when all Lorelai and Rory really communicate with him is that they're fine whether he's there or not? This is what I mean where I don't think there are any outright villains here, I understand all their thinking completely, and I think they're all just trying to do the right thing but are misguided at points.

[@camila6535]

EVERYBODY CHEERED

[@dietdrpepper15]

Watching season 7, episode by episode when Lorelai married Christopher, turned off the show. And didn't come back until the finale.

[@hannahlerum9982]

Love 💕 Loraei realizing that Luke is the one for Loraei 😍

[@mikeprussock6073]

Ya but she didn't have to drag Luke through hell. He should never have went back to her.

[@rachels8354]

I get Lorelai had to date Christopher just to know if it would work, but she didn't have to marry him. That's what makes this so complicated.

[@dietdrpepper15]

And move him into the house Luke renovated for her?! That is just cruel. Luckily this is a tv show, cause if I knew Luke in real life I'd NEVER want him to get back together with her, based solely on that decision.

[@lauriecarson6483]

@@dietdrpepper15 what did you want her to do move. Its her house

[@dietdrpepper15]

@@lauriecarson6483 No I totally get that, I didn't watch season 7 but didn't her and Chris go looking at places to move? It's just Luke did all that work for them, and Chris gets to enjoy it. Ouch.

[@lauriecarson6483]

@@dietdrpepper15 yes they did go look. I hear ya I hated it too.

[@lauriecarson6483]

​@@dietdrpepper15 Chris wanted Lorelai to move out of Stars Hallow. He tried to change Lorelai house, life style.

[@sophiamartins1870]

God, this scene is so powerful, beautiful and amazing! One of the highlights of this bad and poor season.

[@dietdrpepper15]

Yeah season 6 was the beginning of this mess. I remember watching on tv, second Lorelai married Christopher, turned off the show and didn't come back til the finale.

[@dwightschrute2021]

I literally appreciate you so much thank you for posting soo much Gilmore girl clips.

[@mikeprussock6073]

Chris knew he blew any chance of having a father daughter relationship with Rory when she went to see him in the revival. And she told him her mom and Luke were getting married and she wanted him to stay away. I always thought Rory always loved Luke more than Chris. Luke was the father Rory should have had.

[@lauriecarson6483]

Chris blew any chance of having a relationship with Rory when he blew her off and made promises he couldn't keep. Or when he ran away from his responsibility.

[@filmlorelai]

and she wasnt nominated for an emmy. sigh.

[@NWCountryGirl17]

YES!!! they're FINALLY over now we've gotten rid of the 'beagle' for good and she can end up back where she belongs BACK AT LUKE'S

[@siang4242]

the next playlist/series should be lorelai & sookie!! also thank you for your hardwork!

[@dlsgl407]

It's true they rushed into this marriage - they had not discussed the mundane but critical things like where they were going to live, etc. So instead of being united in a plan, they fell into old patterns. I am less sympathetic to Christopher given he has a child, which should have been something he considered before eloping - he is simply still not able to put his children's concerns before his own wants. Perhaps Lorelai is at a point in her life where she's ready to put herself first after raising Rory to independence - but she also should have known better than to be impetuous. Nevertheless, they could have worked to make the marriage successful - probably moved out of SH for a fresh start, but they both gave up on moving forward and putting in the work. I'm not sure either one of them will ever be able to embrace that marriage is also about putting another person's concerns at least equal to your own. Marriage is work even in the best of times.

[@dietdrpepper15]

Oh real life washed away all the romantic notions they had very quickly. And without their unrealistic fantasy of what life 'should be like now that we are finally together' they were unable to compromise, communicate, or meet each other's needs.

[@lauriecarson6483]

That's the same with Logan and Rory no discussion was made about what they wanted from each other or where they would live or work. Logan made all the decisions for Rory. Marriage takes alot of work.

[@lauriecarson6483]

​@@dietdrpepper15 yeah it's hard to met each other needs when one don't listen to another. Meaning Chris he pushed Lorelai into moving and having kids.

[@visionfh]

one of my fav scenes!!!

[@marijoelse9310]

Usually sad whenever a couple breaks up. B

[@stellar2435]

thanks for posting these!! I would love to see lorelai and emily next

[@elliegray476]

TOOK LONG ENOUGH BUT WELL DONE LORELAI!!!! 👏👏

[@juanjulioromancampos9814]

Hasta que al fin "lorelai" pudo ser sincera,no fue justo para "Cristopher", pero ambos fueron culpables por apurar las cosas,y esa es la triste consecuencia.

[@lauriecarson6483]

Fair to Chris really. Was it for Lorelai when Chris wasn't at the hospital when she needed him. Was it fair for Lorelai when she had to raise Rory on her own.

[@Gizo02]

Also I always thought that Lorelai ending up with Christopher, the man who she was theoretically ‘supposed to’ end up with according to Emily and Richard (Emily in-particular despite admitting that she didn’t even like him much), with his Hayden name and background and him coming from ‘their world’, would have been so boring and so anti-climatic. 7 seasons with all that drama, the fascinating dynamic between Emily and Lorelai and evolution of their relationship, only for Lorelai to end up with the guy from the world that she previously wanted to escape, who Emily and Richard wanted her to marry after getting pregnant with his child at 16? Big yawn. Her ending up with her a more ‘blue collar’ (absolutely nothing wrong with that of course) guy like Luke from her Stars Hollow world, far removed from that upper class world of Emily and Richard and also Christopher which she felt could be suffocating, with Emily in-particular being forced to deal with her snobbishness and outdated view of social status and eventually accept him, was a far better and more interesting storyline.

[@lauriecarson6483]

Reading this gave me a headache

[@Gizo02]

@@lauriecarson6483 somehow that doesn’t surprise me !

[@lauriecarson6483]

​@@Gizo02 and people wonder why I get am so mean to them. It's people like who are rude to me first and think they can be disrespectful.

[@Gizo02]

@@lauriecarson6483 if you respond to my comments (which you’re perfectly entitled to do) with a series of completely useless and dimwitted comments of your own, then you’re going get to follow-on responses spelling that out for you. If you don’t like it, that’s just too bad. The problem is you combine clearly lacking much intelligence with also being a hysterical, oversensitive wimp, which is a very bad combination.

[@marijoelse9310]

Christopher is not the one for her. He's just. Not.

[@mystery8895]

That hurt but it’s the truth ❤️

[@morbikdon5245]

this is the saddest thing I ever watched in GG.

[@janieheroux-chalifoux1470]

Where's the rest???? 433 please!!!

[@thayzaribeiro122]

Soo complex! 😅 In this scene i felt sorry for Chris. This scene it's pretty amazing! 🤔

[@wariid8418]

I love GG

[@maidazoppetti9202]

Could someone explain to me why she says that he is the man she wants to want, please?

[@NELLISZ1]

i think someone will explain it much better than me, but i think Chris was always this great option in the back of her mind for her, with who it might work out in the end, so she kind of sabotaged all her relationships (as she said in s2 i think?) but then once her and Luke happened, she realized she never really loved Chris and only truly loved Luke for the first time. then, bc of the whole April fiasco in s6, she felt being pushed away by Luke and him not making her priority ever, and then there was Chris who finally did, so she jumped on that, but never stopped loving Luke, she just believed it was really over between them. but as the saying goes, "be careful what you wish for because you just might get it", she found out this fantasy with Chris was really just a fantasy, which didn't really work in reality.

[@tgapmamakat]

I think it's because Christopher seems perfect for her "on paper". A bit of a bad boy, similar sense of humor, and he loves her. She would love to end up with her first love. Plus he provides the perfect buffer between her and her parents. She wants that happy ever after but it's missing a key ingredient, her desire to be with him.

[@thayzaribeiro122]

He was an "easy choice" you know? Was difficult to her realise that the man that she wants e loves it's not the one that is sit in front of her (the one that she is married!!). Luke is a difficult "choice", but she just realise that he is the love of her life🤷🏽‍♀️

[@Mae-kg6kt]

She wants to want Chris cuz it would be so much easier that way yk like he’s Rory’s father and if Lorelei loved Chris like that then they could finally be the whole package family that she always wanted especially the fact that they’ve known each other since they were like kids and they have a lot of history together and they understand and have a lot of things that are similar. But Luke is the one for her and even if he’s not Rory’s biological father he’s always been there for them and always will be there, and it’s not a bad thing that she loves and wants Luke it’s just overwhelming how much she has always loved him and she’s scared of being broken again!

[@dietdrpepper15]

@@NELLISZ1 Ohhhh yes, the fantasy stopped the second daily life happened. With compromises, each other's needs, disagreements. Yeah Lorelai truly wanted to have marriage...and sadly by season 7 it didn't matter to who.

[@maisonthebault7726]

432?

[@sergemesnil309]

She s loved luke no Christopher

[@AnastasiaRomanov-w9x]

Chris is a jerk. He never deserved loralie.

[@mrtee3988]

There is no such thing as "the one". What religion is this character supposed to be? There's been churches involved in some episodes but it isn't clear if she is actually Christian. But Christianity has no concept of "the one" whatsoever. Where does this creepy doctrine originate from?

[@dietdrpepper15]

The church of RomComs.

[@mrtee3988]

@@dietdrpepper15 No it's from a certain other secretive and powerful religion. It's diabolical how people just embrace these creepy ideas without any scrutiny, particularly as you say with folks that watch romcoms. As long as the doctrine is not presented as religious, they assume it's natural and neutral.

[@zidneya]

So...Lorelai. After whining season after season about why you ain't married. On and on thinking that if you're married to someone who gets you, love will magically appear. And blaming others for not being what you want, if only Luke had done this if only Christopher was more that. That you been clinging to dumb stereotypes from the beginning. Do you finally realize that marriage and happiness aren't the same?

[@dietdrpepper15]

And that a fantasy of someone is MUCH different than daily life with that person.

[@lauriecarson6483]

Are you married at all. Why are you attacking Lorelai so much. Do you knew what it takes to be married. Grew up

[@zidneya]

@@lauriecarson6483 Two replies, in a row? I hit a nerve didn’t I? Thou no need to make a fuzz about it. Marriage is a social construct. I care more about the individual bonds and relationships than a ring. Like I asked before. Which one is harder, to find the love of your life or to find a husband.

[@lauriecarson6483]

@@zidneya well if you think that then you are never getting married. And there is nothing wrong with having both. Enjoy y our single life .

[@zidneya]

@@lauriecarson6483 It's called psychological projection, since you aim for marriage you assume that everyone else does it as well. However, I'll tell my GF what you just said to me. And I never said there's something wrong with having both, I said it's silly to suffer because you ain't married (you do realize that in order to reply my comments you need to read my comments first, right?)

[@nadimabbas4093]

I really hated this scene. Lorelai desperately tried to salvage her marriage when it just started and she wanted to be happy, but her recently failed engagement got in the way and neither she nor Christopher were able to look past it. I really wanted Lorelai and Christopher to stay married because they have a daughter together and getting married would make them a family even closer than before. I can't believe that after all those years Christopher still can't keep his commitments and everything he went through to win Lorelai back was for nothing

[@dietdrpepper15]

She wanted to salvager her marriage, not her marriage TO Christopher, just her marriage. He doesn't fit, because they both had just built up this delusional wonderful could be life together in their minds. And when daily life intruded on the fantasy they cooked up, it all fell apart.

[@lauriecarson6483]

I don't agree with you. Getting married when the their kid is an adult won't make them be a close family that is far from it. I can see that when Rory was little but it didn't happen.