Lori Greiner and Kevin O'Leary Make Dueling Deals - Shark Tank

Outdoor furniture company Outer is attractive to both Lori Greiner and Kevin O'Leary, who both offer complex deals with lines of credit and royalties. Will Terry Lin and Jiake Liu make a deal, or will they end up angering both Sharks? From 'Episode 8,' season 11, episode 8 of Shark Tank. Watch Shark Tank SUNDAY 9|8c on ABC, streaming, on demand, and Hulu.

[@samuelbrown4764]

Sometimes I feel bad for Kevin lol. He’s literally just there to compete with the other sharks offer so that the entrepreneurs can get better deals from other people. And he gets not gratitude😂

[@hakunamatata7507]

kev makes rly good deals n i think lori straighup started copying him which is a form of flattery but seems like kevin loses most of offers

[@dunzhen]

@@hakunamatata7507 if it's between lori or kevin people always pick lori lol maybe her face is just much more pleasant on the eyes

[@Poetic6enius]

Ive been saying this for a while mow, not jusr Lori, but Daymon and sometimes Robert as well. They always get out elbowed out of the deal by Mark or Lori.

[@bloodwargaming3662]

Her deal was a rip off bro. 750k at 3% Interest + royalty till 1m +5% stake of the company. Do you get how much Money is that ? . Its almost 3x-4x return even if we exclude the 5% stake

[@bernlin2000]

I assure you that he doesn't feel bad for himself, so I wouldn't be worried :-P

[@officialspock]

Barbara: The deal is so complicated and for that reason I'm out

[@F5_cena]

Barbara I haven't recieved my snap benefits so for that reason *I'm out*

[@yophilli]

Starting to get annoying. See these everywhere

[@dorkhydrogen]

barbara has made and lost the same amount on this show 0$

[@garyellison8244]

@@F5_cena coldest comment of the month lmao

[@dneuman7455]

I am Barbara i sell realestate not sure why I'm here please the paycheck envelope out.

[@afifkarout1]

It's easy to see that Kevin is the smartest of the sharks. He doesn't seem to care very much about getting a deal yet he delivers the most elaborate offers and also organizes the debate when he's out.

[@The_Dragon89]

Nah, mark is the smartest shark, Kevin is probably second

[@tohhhype2043]

@@The_Dragon89 i would agree on that

[@huntertoledo8989]

@Truth n Logic and yet he gets the best deals when they accept and those royalties add up! He makes one good royalty deal and he’ll make millions over time

[@huntertoledo8989]

Marks definitely the smartest shark you can practically guess which ones are smartest by their net worth.. mark Cuban made the smartest bets and that’s why he’s a billionaire

[@maxmustermann3876]

@@huntertoledo8989 So by that logic all of us are just dumb as sheep or what? Sorry to disappoint you, but the correlation between wealth and intelligence is actually pretty low.

[@mercuryabroad4259]

This guy is a true master of shark tank . He baited one shark , hooked the other shark, Kevin’s evaluation went from 20% to 4% which made Lori drop her offer from 10% to 5%. Well played sir

[@venberd]

Sank yu

[@fanwee5048]

@@venberd he’s not talking ab you, u punk biatch

[@kimcuongtran5495]

They had to pay back money that they were loaned + interest, give away 30 dollars every single item until 1M paid back + give away equity, did you think that he baited the sharks? was that a good deal?

[@dustywoood]

@@kimcuongtran5495 Just to give you some context on that offer, as you seem to be implying that it was not a good deal - there's another angle to this that you may not be considering - and that is called "Capital Investment". If this company went to a Bank for a loan / investment for their business, the Bank would likely make a much more aggressive offer by expecting a percentage of their company as a method of "insurance" whilst seeking the initial investment back as repayments with interest. What these Shark's are doing is what Banks do everyday to businesses, except the Shark's are usually offering these structures at much smaller percentages than what a Bank would offer - making the Shark's offers more attractive than traditional banks whilst the Shark's are securing themselves the same financial security as a Bank would itself. Additionally, this is free exposure, which sells. The other thing to take in mind is the rarity of securing a capital investment with a Bank without a solid track record of sales - so you must take all of this into account when you hear these type's of deals being made.

[@tenzing2090]

Kevin went to 5% though. Where did you get the 4%?

[@H1storybr3akdown]

Wow I don’t see why people hate kevin dude is actually a genius and tells the truth. People should get informed about the sharks before coming on the show

[@velocity1012]

They're selling furniture...they need the Queen of QVC.

[@adedoyinoluwo428]

@@astroboi5594 totally agree. I don't see myself watching the show without Mr wonderful.

[@yashverma703]

People are mean to Kevin

[@carolineg856]

I dont like him lol

[@dogestranding5047]

"genius"

[@kr63]

Barbara: I’m not here so for that reason I’m out

[@arpharazon999]

Jenny: I'm from Dragons Den, I'm out.

[@paulvasquez7897]

Barbra : *Calls in* : Hey I’m not showing up today .. but let them know I’m out

[@ThePercyJacksonDude]

Lori always says she’ll go out if something happens, then she doesn’t. It’s hilarious.

[@morgancason6876]

@A C to be fair to the sharks, the presentations are usually at least an hour long so they make decide fast cause they’ve been taking a long time to decide.

[@thejeffyvlogs7317]

Daymond John is the new Barbara... haven't seen him make a deal in ages

[@Arbiter710]

Jeffin Julius I know I’m not the one to pull the race card but the only time I see him invest is into black business mainly that aren’t really all that and it seems he does it to just help them

[@sonia-pp9qi]

Jeffin Julius tbh it’s their own money, I wouldn’t want to invest in something I know I could have no benefit in/can’t help as well as the other sharks could. What’s the point in making deals that are gonna end up with him losing money

[@TrunxKraft3000]

Jengucci Exactly. A lot of times it’s just about being interested in the company or not. They could have a great product.!

[@gabrielhillceo]

This is Lori's space and she'll kill it.

[@The2Coolest2]

@@Arbiter710 To be fair, I notice a lot when Daymond does make good offers, sometimes the same as other sharks, people avoid him, and I always wonder if it's cause he's black. Seems to be a thing.

[@LoveAshleyCash1]

She straight up jacked Kevin’s deal structure

[@Kcseales]

Yes, and got more out of it. SMH.

[@misterkid]

Good for her

[@aidanm9934]

jacked it and then did it better

[@samh7982]

theyre willing to take that gamble for queen of qvc to market the company.

[@wlonsdale1]

That’s what she does. She has no creativity for deals so she just modifies the others.

[@eisirm]

Mark Cuban never forget to say, "Congratulations guys!", that too with big genuine smile 😁

[@yunggoth9713]

por barbera isn’t even here and she still gets bullied in the comments

[@ekletters2010]

and for that reason I'm out.

[@trblemker00]

😂😂😂😂

[@slushyislush5077]

This is love.

[@TrunxKraft3000]

“...i feel like - 5,4,3,2 SAY YES NOWW...” 🤣🤣😭😭 well that didn’t work, Lori. Lol

[@juicykae8738]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@TrunxKraft3000]

Juicy Kae 😭😭😭 She tried to be forceful

[@ggunter2730]

Trunx Kraft it was obvious she wanted the deal way more than Kevin

[@dcoy8666]

Channeling her inner Dwight

[@benimcanm351]

Actually, it did work :)

[@HaydenDavidson6]

Mr Wonderful is one of the only sharks who doesn't kick up a hissy fit if someone doesn't accept his offer straight away and entertains other sharky offers.

[@Set451]

This is the reason Mark puts a timer on his deals. Kevin and Lori often make attractive deals, then get in biding wars with each other

[@Locutus]

The thing with Kevin is, he likes to screw with the other Sharks. Kevin also helps the people coming on, to stop the Sharks steam rolling them. Kevin has a hard exterior, but if it's anyone I would want on my business side is Kevin!

[@cristianperotti9412]

@@Locutus Totally agree. If all of them offered similar deals to my pitch, I would hands down choose Kevin. He is the only one (as far as I am concerned) that is very serious about his money and getting it back. If he did not think the product was gonna make money, he would never give an offer. So, it is kind of a guarantee that if Kevin makes an offer, he already knows the product will sell big.

[@thehorde4868]

@@Locutus facts

[@Juan-dc6yf]

kevin was in such a good mood

[@shaindyhorowitz3783]

No one ever takes loris threats seriously 😂

[@BasketballBuddies]

“I don’t care if he laughs, he didn’t give you any money” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ihkeseteeietos5722]

Its funny bc he obviously cared

[@DudeGamer8]

Barbara: I am here, for that reason I'm out

[@nicelysaid2665]

For some odd reason, Mark is so jealous of Kevin. Every time Kevin is about to make an offer he throws some discouraging reaction which most of the time ruins it for Kevin, while Kevin always try to help every shark to get the deal when he is out.

[@franke102]

Yeah, Kevin wants rich people to like him. Mark doesn't want struggling people to shoot themselves in the foot by over-commiting to a partner that isn't going to bring that much value back to the company. Mark is a sand shark. Kevin is a bull shark.

[@PacManPark]

yea Mark, the only billionaire up there, is jealous of a millionaire. yea sounds about right

[@allahbless2278]

God what a cringy ass comment

[@dancorwin9232]

it's editing

[@paulvasquez7897]

Mark does it to everyone More of Kevin cause he’s also a billionaire... But majority of the time he does it to everyone at once ... like the Tycoon episode ... or the Hot Sauna Episode or the one where The guy rather take a deal from anyone other than Kevin

[@MrA10004]

Barbara: I'm Out-er.

[@TahirAli-ri3hn]

Lol

[@thedarkknight7626]

Gaaawd

[@SkullkraneEntertainment]

People always rule out Kevin, when he's easily the smartest and most business savvy of the core Sharks. Who else could concoct his crazy offers?!

[@RealDarkFilm]

If he was more business savvy Mark wouldn't be the only billionaire up there

[@varunaiyar6214]

@@RealDarkFilm That makes no sense.

[@RealDarkFilm]

@@varunaiyar6214 Im saying that Kevin is older than Mark. but Mark is worth twice as much as Kevin, so obviously he isn't the smartest out of the sharks

[@hithere2872]

RealDarkFilm being business savvy does not necessarily equate to more wealth. Time frame and right circumstances, beyond our control, matter too.

[@verbalkint4258]

@@RealDarkFilm mark is a billionaire primarily because of luck. He sold Broadcast.com to Yahoo and they regretted it almost immediately. The only reason he was able to sell it is because it was a somewhat new use of technology but it was the time period that influenced the sale. If he had waited a few more years he could never have sold it for that much.

[@onemoretime15]

0:49 Damon high AF.

[@mikelytou]

I remember the one time when some pitchers had an offer from Mark, and he pressured them to take the deal or he's out, while Lori was just alleging something like "You don't know if my deal will be better". The entrepreneurs then wanted to hear Lori's offer, and Mark went out. Lori then offered them worse than what Mark offered. The situation in this video reminded me of that.

[@chrisjackson6149]

Kevin tends to do the same thing, because if you're the only shark making an offer you have leverage to make the deal better for yourself.

[@potionmusic3502]

Barbara : as all of you may already know.. I'm out

[@seena96]

Kevin is the best facilitator and I appreciate how he doesn't let his ego get the best of him and throw a fit when people look at the other offers.

[@a000ab]

Did they really understand Lori's offer and still preferred that over Kevin's?

[@bboygenetics9882]

They said they wanted to work with Lori. Maybe they think her connections are more valuable for their business than Kevin's.

[@iamomnipotentxd]

Don't you love it when cuban laughs at kevin's offers

[@cole_bh0373]

Honestly I would take kevin because he is straight to the point and does what needs to get done.

[@rturae]

Barbara doesn't call in sick. She calls in to say she's out

[@studentinvestmentclubmc5914]

She does? Really?

[@AI-fo2je]

I would love to know what the product is🤨

[@jayjhaveri1906]

Outdoor furniture.

[@single350]

Right? Why the he'll u tube doesn't broadcast the segment from the beginning?

[@federalbureauofinvestigati6420]

Thomas Ross mate it’s abc

[@single350]

Chairs for handicapped dogs !

[@Pat4ever.]

So why exactly were they so interested? Outdoor furniture isn’t some proprietary, revolutionary idea and you typically don’t buy new outdoor furniture often.

[@kingkyrie5140]

She really jacks kevins deals and he calls her out on it lol love mr wonderful

[@TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou]

I cant believe they didn't just accept Kevin's deal out the gate it was a very fair deal. They really went out of their way to try and tank any chance of a deal.

[@aperson2730]

They wanted to work with Lori

[@LucasSChiefsLightning]

What was the point of the 3% if she's guaranteed $1 million back? Just using the 3% ($22,500) as collateral?

[@Baghuul]

Barbara: When I was first delivered as a baby, my first words were, I'm out.

[@blackie6050]

I'm out for that reason, my name is Barbara

[@bluetonik7323]

Barbara : Its raining outside , look based on that im out

[@soratwin]

@3:20 KEVIN WAS SO FLABBERGASTED THAT SHE MADE THAT DEAL HAHAHAHA HE REALLY LOOKS LIKE HE'S THINKING TO HIMSELF "DAMN THAT SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE A DEAL I WOULD MAKE. I REALLY TAUGHT HER WELL"😯😦🤔😧😐

[@nasa9439]

😂😂He was like: “Aww you bitch...🤯😒😤” ...😂

[@captain_deadpoolcx7585]

I love kevin, he forces the other sharks to lower their deals, tells the truth, and lets the entrepreneur listen to other offers.

[@ivorybarksdale6780]

Good old psychology 🙂

[@cjgatmaitan5924]

I just watched this show earlier in the morning... And then it's 10PM now here in Philippines.... Damn this show is chills bro...

[@Ericshizz]

I'm confused help!.... 750k@3% interest.....but also pay up to $1M??? It's either 3% or it's $1M....can't have both?

[@BasicallyBhavesh]

The 750 is the loan, the upto 1 milly is the royalty

[@itzluptic9973]

For this one, i feel Lori was the right choice. But in many other situations, I feel Kevin is more experienced and is more likely to be able to make money. Like he says, he's all about the money and actually making it.

[@franklinegbuche7097]

*From 20% to 4%. From 10% to 5%. These guys are the true Sharks. They baited both Lori and Kevin until they reduced their demands and then they picked which one they prefer.*

[@brandonkeeler7363]

Lori with the rich person laugh at 1:08 Lol

[@lamineaim5562]

I loved when Kevin said Just to shake it up hahaha

[@devenarora227]

Kevin and Lori really switch roles, they usually do what the other does in this situation

[@newvisx]

Barbara: I am not even on this episode for that reason I'm out.

[@rmark1986]

LORI IS THE HONEY OF ALL SHARKS..........

[@Uchawibeatz]

Can we take a moment to appreciate Mark Cuban for always congratulating the entrepreneurs who just got a deal?

[@vincemok3441]

where can i watch the episodes. Shark tank is hard to find to watch online

[@tomjens2046]

love how she randomly added 3% interest under the radar

[@Legolas862]

A loan always carries interest. 3% is rather low too.

[@aperson2730]

So sweet the little back-rub the guy gave Lori at the end

[@tereraikarenge3721]

I like how honest he was there

[@akshat.jaiswal]

Kevin is the secret sauce of this show

[@adamb.2235]

I like Kevin, but they made the right choice with Lori. Because Kevin said “just to make it interesting”, which hints he only did it for the show as he is also a producer. So who knows if the deal would’ve closed.

[@brunokaufmannfigueiredo8153]

Mr wonderful always helping the entrepreneurs get a better deal 🤝

[@Ehcufie]

Why did they agree to that deal. It's terrible. Didnt they hear the interest on the 750k

[@TheAazah]

Its 750k until an million is paid.

[@TheOmegawop]

She only took 5% equity which was 1% more than they went in asking. You know the valuations start high so they can have room to get down when making a deal. I think it was a great agreement and these guys are probably going to rich as fuck in the near future with most of equity in their company.

[@allahbless2278]

@@TheOmegawop it's stupid when Kevin matched that with less stipulations

[@rubberbandman3rd]

@@allahbless2278 i was thinking that as well but lori pulled the mark cuban

[@Blackhomeking12]

With the structure of the deal they are paying her back 250k extra and with 3% interest on 1 million thats an extra 30k on top. Horrible deal. And 10% EQ where as kevin deal they would be paying 0 interest and would only lose 5% EQ

[@arpharazon999]

Miss wonderful? Mandatory Jenny joke: "I'm not on shark tank, I'm out."

[@mikehawk2194]

I feel like Kevin sets up so many deals. He doesn’t even get appreciated. Yeah he is brutally honest. He hardly ever threatens to go out if they don’t accept and out of ever shark he constantly gets them a better deal by being competitive

[@hescarlos]

there was so much fuckin numbers in this video I legit got lost for a good sec

[@murtazahamid6141]

If a phone rings u gotta assume it's Barbara calling to say she is out😂

[@TheStringBreaker]

Kevin is such a legend! Also had no idea he’s 66. He looks like he’s in his early 50’s!

[@barbieblue3336]

True

[@paulpolpiboon9535]

@1:20 every time he says "I'm Mr. Wonderful" its the exact same psychological tactic that denny crane does whenever he keeps repeating "DENNY CRANE". Conquest by self promotion+ repitition lol

[@taylorbrewer5852]

Anyone else realize she didn’t lower the 5% equity to 4 or lower, and they got finnessed out of 250k more money lmao

[@petermaag9622]

It was about lowering from 10%. She'd never matched Kevin's 5.

[@omarbakri1393]

Mr.Wonderfill i like that sound of that

[@hashimkasaai4983]

I like the energy of this lady, she has confidence thus why she out smart's her fellow investors 💪💪💪❤❤

[@wlonsdale1]

She literally follows the other sharks leads. She can’t outsmart my dog.

[@hashimkasaai4983]

@@wlonsdale1 who is your dog

[@Wolf-xu1fj]

Lori: you want me to wake up every morning, and be like, I can’t wait to blow that up.

[@albertlopez5017]

Grass hoppers. You should of said $25 royalties.... Awwwww Mr Wong

[@dajosee]

That was kick ass!

[@jkid5627]

I like that Kevin never pressures

[@single350]

So. Whats so special about this outdoor furniture? It started from the middle.

[@theunstoppable2468]

Kevin heard “royalty” and he was like cha Ching! $$$$

[@ajx3866]

Nothing beats “an fo dat reason...im owt”

[@tonyng4300]

Kevin may look evil but he in many occasions helps out the entrepreneur by “squeezing the head” of the other offers.

[@AndySaenz]

Kevin called Lori a grasshopper. 😂🤣

[@brian_s3castro305]

That was a awesome deal can’t wait to learn

[@rashmiabbigeri3268]

Outer is a outdoor furniture company Kevin : $750k dollars for 20% stake Later the founders asked Kevin to match the structure of Lori's initial offer. Which is $750k loan for 5% equity and $20 royalty until $750k is paid. Lori : $750k loan as a loan with 3% interest for 5% equity and royalty of $30 until $1M is paid They took Lori's offer . Why ? Why do they want debt ?

[@trendivision2599]

Daemon doesn't like to wait if he isn't giving an offer

[@davidevans3175]

Barbara: For that reason I'm out, and for that reason I'm out.

[@LpvictorG]

laughed out loud

[@robertwhite1993]

Smart because bigger is not always better!!! GOOD LUCK ✌

[@dneuman7455]

Maybe call it product service equity deal. Or a short term equity return service loan.

[@joehsiao6224]

Is the lady next to Mark the actress in Game of Throne?

[@jesusalvarez5663]

Lori greiner arms are looking awe

[@gyunayify]

CONGRATULATIONS GUYS

[@akankshachawla2280]

Lori's way of getting them to pick her is like DWIGHT.

[@RobGamingSubNow]

Anyone else feels bad for Kevin

[@noahdaniels8890]

I do. In fact, I would've gone with Kevin in this case. I just can't stand the way Lori acts sometimes.

[@awaitingban7324]

Yeah he usually has better deals but for some reason people dont like going into business with him even though he has more $ than Lori

[@gabrielhillceo]

I might join Kevin's team later on to help my clothing brand, but Daymond knows that industry better and he too has a personal branding team.

[@jimmykey5921]

Nope.

[@jimmykey5921]

Oh poor Kevin. Fuck him....

[@omarfarique6304]

Kevin is really Mr Wonderful he kinda made Lori lower her equity by making the deal competitive.

[@TOXICxRANDY]

750k for 5% of a chair business. I'm going to have to take a seat for this

[@dobermanpac1064]

Kevin’s again costs Lori 💰💰. I love how he does that. 🤠

[@pekka8459]

Idk how business works and for that reason, I'm In to learn business today.

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

I've had plenty of duels myself but they were to the death. I won almost all of them. ;-)

[@JoeJoe-di4oj]

Mr wonderful looked so upset at the end

[@quarterlifeman2470]

I think this is a very expensive deal. 3% loan interest + royalty of 1M + 5% equity? Wth.

[@hirkney]

Barbara: I am not in and for that reason I am out.

[@HiroThatDude]

“With how many will sell” sounded so fake but I love Lori

[@MrC8025]

Kevin can you match her offer was so dumb I was rolling.

[@khaldancarlos9859]

Is Mark Cuban paid for saying Congratulations alone after every deal?

[@Xiaolongbaokid16]

That's a great deal, i think, at least for both sides.

[@unstoppable-ar3292]

Kevin is my favorite shark..he's just an amazing person

[@narayananrengarajan1051]

Kevin is the only shark that has enough self esteem to not give a shit when the entrepreneurs choose the other sharks.

[@eugenew4665]

I wish they would stick to the original sharks