Lori Vallow Daybell's Niece Takes the Stand | Doomsday Prophet Murder Trial Day 17 Recap

Lori Vallow Daybell's Niece referred to #ChadDaybell as "Daddy" and said Chad labeled detectives as 'dark.' Plus, The #DoomsdayProphetMurderTrial jury hears phone recordings between Ian Pawlowski, Melani Pawlowski, Chad, and Lori.
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#CourtTV - What do YOU think?

[@Zegers1]

Chad Daybell is guilty. Satan took his soul and by using religion and twisting words and sentences he plotted to kill and burn to innocent children.

[@SilentThundersnow]

Keep bringing John Dehlin back!! He knows his stuff.

[@miaknig3130]

Mel P needs to be in prison. She tried to off Brandon and she wanted her 2 kids to go w him and admitted to it when she said said not to let Brandon know Al was gone bc she wanted Brandon to remain fearful that Al was still going after him .

[@lang1031]

Funny Chad said he had a gift to see the light and dark in people but could not see the "dark" is Lori or himself.

[@lang1031]

Chad was not following the teachings. He was coming up with stuff that was not in Doctrine in the Church.

[@debhanzlik540]

Melani looks like she went to the Inspector Gadget school of disguise 🥸

[@Razz_goat2]

Chad Daybell is guilty

[@jeanettecoleman-mz7ie]

Didn't need to be any trial to know that, evil b stard!😈

[@ravenfeathesDVM]

How profound

[@markbrookes6557]

This chick obviously never heard of what happens to people who called Lori Mom!

[@lesliemcdowell9426]

Yes and all you had to do was have a little money.

[@perilynbarton7058]

If Melanie is ever trying to be taken seriously, those glasses she's wearing totally won't help her

[@lindabartholomew6435]

They look like swim goggles.

[@tracydeyhle4688]

@@lindabartholomew6435 HaHaHaHa! I actually thought they looked more like the special "sunglasses" we had to use to watch the solar eclipse!

[@frankrizzo454]

magic glasses or she's trying to make a fashion statement

[@denisebrost7409]

She looks ridiculous in those glasses🤣

[@jeanettecoleman-mz7ie]

Genetic defect!

[@ingabrown3916]

Malanie P i dont care what she said on the stand she needs to charged ⚖️⚖️ JUSTICE for Brandon and Braxton because we know they were next to be killed 😮😮⚖️⚖️⚖️

[@barbararuell8199]

Waiting for testimony and the audio Brandon got to charge her imo it’s now public record!!!

[@23to]

The only gift Chad has is the gift of lying

[@leahyamazaki5241]

And the girl of murder

[@KitKat_2007]

and also another gift of delusion.

[@didee86]

Yes, and the gift of murder.

[@samantham4351]

Cheating also 👍

[@amistenson2535]

When a LDS lifer thinks what you’re saying is crazy, it’s highly likely that YOU’RE INSANE! 😂

[@fifilaflamme2]

😂😂

[@miaknig3130]

Or that you're rational and seek proven fact based science instead of mythology.

[@amistenson2535]

@@miaknig3130 well yeah… 🤔

[@susanbarton8873]

Just imagine what both Melanie's could have possibly PREVENTED had they gone to Law Enforcement right away about this SICK TWISTED RELIGION BS.

[@SMtWalkerS]

Yes, you are right! They could have prevented so many evil actions and murder!

[@ahermannblue]

Charles Vallow went to law enforcement and it did absolutely no good.

[@frankrizzo454]

Why would anyone believe this? People have a hard time believing that we don't have a clue how we got here .....

[@BradJames878]

Both Melanies are complicit in the murders and should both go to prison, as should the other woman, Zelina P or whatever.

[@jeanettecoleman-mz7ie]

​@@BradJames878put all that defective genetic material in prison!

[@judygutierrez4309]

These people we're easily convinced, what idiots , i can't believe my ears . Chad aint nothing.

[@ferrari251]

There aren’t too many people on Earth who aren’t fooled by crazy religious beliefs though.

[@Grammichal]

@@ferrari251Some beliefs are true. Bonafide, verified, historically accurate. Everyone worships…

[@ferrari251]

@@Grammichal give one example

[@Grammichal]

@@ferrari251 Give one example of what?

[@ferrari251]

@@Grammichal read your own comment. ONE SINGLE EXAMPLE of true religious beliefs you claim are historically accurate.

[@moniquedawn5252]

Glasses remind me of solar eclipse glasses, except not darkened

[@Glocks.Scotch.and.Wristwatch]

Guilty as charged. Ian needs to GTFO of that marriage or watch his back.

[@frankrizzo454]

He's a SMIP ..... Google SIMP and you will see

[@Grammichal]

Both!

[@susieq2806]

Chad had no right to say he was getting visions, anything from God !. He is as far from God as anyone can be. He listens to the devil. 😢

[@christianward-nisbet8833]

Those glasses look like they belong on a cartoon superhero.😅😂 Captain? ?

[@bullseye2474]

She is a superhero to me! Sure wish I could have met her before she got remarried so quick! 😍

[@ghostdetectorsuk]

The only thing those poor children would have had if it did exist are the white lights of innocence and purity, Chad, Alex and Lori were the only dark ones

[@snowwhite2524]

John is right that Lori and Chad were definitely predators.

[@fredjonestowns4213]

Cute picture of the chosen one Chad sitting in a graveyard next to his shovel reading "One foot in the grave". Charming guy.

[@samantham4351]

Sick stuff, even if a Sexton

[@Grammichal]

👺💩🤮

[@leahyamazaki5241]

At some point did you help in planning a murder attempt on your now x husband?

[@CC-ii4rf]

I think ....those spectacles are ludicrous .

[@chipperterri]

Reminds me of The Rocky Horror Picture Show. Let's do the Time Warp Again.

[@Grammichal]

Urim & Thummim Joseph Smith style. (Special 👓 spectacles to “discern.”)

[@PaulaWoerner-ck6gr]

There’s a lot of people that lose their parents at a young age, but they don’t believe stupid!!!!

[@laurakenney8]

If Melanie Pawlowskis trying to be incognito with those god awful glasses, she totally missed the mark!

[@natashafreeman2220]

They were all a bunch of wack jobs for following Chad!

[@jocelynastheart2732]

I have to say it again I love Vinnie so much! the way he explains the scenes and the murderers I am here for vinnie thank you Court tv!

[@kimberlyschleiger6196]

I love how he always said, “Alex died on the toilet”. 😂😂😂

[@angelcruzfontanez6676]

This man let his wife call another man daddy. Oh hell no!!!

[@Grammichal]

Polyandry? Women with more than one husband. No- Mormonism has been polygamous.

[@barbararuell8199]

🥸 disguised on the stand omg 😳

[@Jammn126]

Seems as if Chad labeled people who gave him trouble were dark….lol

[@wiseup8729]

Or were in his way.

[@AllegedlyAngela]

Why is she wearing 3D glasses?

[@snowwhite2524]

😂😂

[@SMtWalkerS]

Their way-out assertions about prophesies, other worlds, lives, and light and dark people sound even more ridiculous when said out loud in a rational, legal venue.

[@13Liberty50]

NEW BOOK BY THE ALL-SEEING PROPHET once the trial is over Chad Daybell will release a new book titled, Things I Will Not do in My Next Life.

[@rosotte3586]

Prior complains about witnesses being led but appears to do the same thing.

[@truthseeker1649]

Melanie's "underwater goggles" 😂 I love @Vinny Politan he's so passionate about his job here! ❤

[@janetjohnson7279]

These people are so gullible!!

[@sheilakieso1700]

Haven’t people learned from the Jim Jones tragedy? These people are so very dangerous!

[@jhwyatt831]

What it is up with her wacky costume?

[@lesliemcdowell9426]

Exactly Vinnie i think people like him do chose people he can manipulate. He had inside info on most of these people because Lori knew their weakness.

[@rosotte3586]

Mormonism is all about power and wealth. People should get out as fast as they can.

[@wiseup8729]

It's a cult. Tragic. Lots of beautiful people stuck. So sad.

[@rosotte3586]

@@wiseup8729 very sad that so many have been deluded and deceived. The leaders have much for which to answer.

[@Grammichal]

@@wiseup8729 This is tragic. I’ve heard them called “the beautiful walking dead.”

[@Grammichal]

@@rosotte3586​​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠ Joseph Smith created his own religion. There is no archaeological or other evidence for the beliefs he created/borrowed. NO human is “God Junior.” You will NOT “grow” into godhood and earn your own planet to rule. The true gospel of Jesus Christ is centered upon HIS Godhead, Father, Son & Holy Spirit. Jesus is fully man & fully God so He could satisfy perfect justice & perfect mercy by His life, death & resurrection. “Convenient” cultic justifications pervert the TRUE GOSPEL- the GOOD NEWS. ALL cults (& even more extreme offshoots of cults) spring from a false Jesus crafted from lack of a thorough knowledge of the HISTORICAL Bible. Adding & subtracting from the Word of God is damnable.

[@Jammn126]

I love the look on your face, Vinnie, 😂

[@KRey112]

Hmmm, so this light and dark was really supposed to be about Skin color. It was always sickening concept and still is

[@user-uf8nb1vc1o]

💯

[@johnpatzold8675]

In the mormon faith it was; but in General it's a metahphor about good and evil.

[@user-uf8nb1vc1o]

@@johnpatzold8675 I believe black people weren’t allowed to join the church until the seventies.

[@lindabartholomew6435]

@@johnpatzold8675 It had nothing to do with skin color. And this idea has nothing to do with the LDS church. Chad thinks he is God and he is totally psycho. Light meant you were good and dark meant you were bad. They made up the whole thing so they could live their lives without any accountability!!

[@JoyfulMama19]

Not skin color but”spirit” color. All Chad and Lori’s victims were white.

[@juliewaite2174]

I wonder what Chad and Lori deem themselves as? Dark or light? Lolol

[@nightwithoutstars9415]

Ocean goggles. 🤣😂

[@Peaceb111]

Looks like she has a welding class after court 😮

[@sharmisthabhattacharya6166]

😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@mrbarkley]

Thank goodness court tv switchs on & off w OTHER cases

[@annmoore8696]

It's Not The Same Since Nancy Grace Left 🤨

[@ick.zosted]

Its better 😊​@annmoore8696

[@unsocialsocialbutterfly294]

Melanie was getting ready to do away with Brandon and their children!

[@laurakenney8]

Well, it appears that we all agree about Chad's voice. My god.

[@Jessesgirl0307]

Terrible video in the courtroom. They look like green/gray figures. Come on guys, you're a big network and most videos are terrible.

[@amosfrench7169]

its not the court tv cameras all these views are closed circuit cameras in the court room . the court house controls all sound and cameras

[@jeromepoole3067]

That's why i look for recaps because i cant see them

[@alicechin2705]

That cult was evil to the core. Is there any people killed we dont know about. All of them will soon see just ehat dark is.

[@johnpatzold8675]

Mormonism is a cult across the board. Always was; always will be. Just read the life of Joseph Smith or Brigham Young and you'll quickly realize that.

[@lauragarrette9220]

Hi Vinnie 💓 thanks for sharing always Laura from Arizona

[@karenhall6762]

Those Glasses is what you wear at a masquerade party, not a murder trial! These people are nuts! No offence to nuts!

[@raydunn8262]

Thank you. 1. According to Mel P, Chad rated two or three Mel's and Brandon's kids as dark. a) As Lori drove to Cali with Mel P and kids, Lori commented that some of the kids were acting up. b) Chad offered to inflict pain on them like magic. Lori said later would be better. 2. The castings on Charles worked; however, another demon immediately possessed his body. a) This amounted to at least three demons. 4. Chad has a similar monotone voice as the top Prophets of the LDS Church and Jehovah W. a) Both claimed at their founding that the End Times are imminent. b).Jehovah W still do. c) Latter Saints is part of Mormon's official name. 5. This sets them apart from Christianity. If all this BS isn't true, their religions are doomed.

[@Grammichal]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠ Joseph Smith created his own religion. There is no archaeological or other evidence for the beliefs he created/borrowed. NO human is “God Junior.” You will NOT “grow” into godhood and earn your own planet to rule. The true gospel of Jesus Christ is centered upon HIS Godhead, Father, Son & Holy Spirit. Jesus is fully man & fully God so He could satisfy perfect justice & perfect mercy by His life, death & resurrection. “Convenient” cultic justifications pervert the TRUE GOSPEL- the GOOD NEWS. ALL cults (& even more extreme offshoots of cults) spring from a false Jesus crafted from lack of a thorough knowledge of the HISTORICAL Bible. Adding & subtracting from the Word of God is damnable.

[@PaulaWoerner-ck6gr]

Melani looks like she’s going to a masquerade party with those glasses….. Like notice me aren’t I gorgeous 😳😳😳😳….

[@Grammichal]

We can’t actually accuse her of having good taste on any level can we?

[@OneLaw214]

Chad and Lori both were predators of peoples soul's. They, like Franke and Jodi are to dangerous to be roaming free at all.

[@rosotte3586]

They were all interconnected in a weird way.

[@wiseup8729]

But even in prison they might fool more people. I heard there are many still following this insanity still.

[@rosotte3586]

@@wiseup8729 I have often wondered how many people Lori is influencing with her jumbo jumbo. She is probably very believable to those who feel helpless and hopeless. Perhaps she has a permanent smile on her face because she loves the fact that she has a captive audience.

[@Grammichal]

@@rosotte3586 Literally captive!!

[@daphneallen5614]

She managed to find the hugest glasses ever to try and hide her face, but the truth always comes out in the end.

[@sandycarroll2640]

Bottom line is~~~ Chad & Lori took it upon themselves to knock people off that got in their way of being together & cashing in on life insurance & social security benefits. Neither one wanted to work. The deaths wouldn’t have stopped with Tammy’ Charles , JJ & Tylee. I believe they had something to do with Alex’s death as well.

[@mortalclown3812]

💯 I always thought this was about money more than anything.

[@Grammichal]

@@mortalclown3812 Money, sex & power.

[@Grammichal]

Money, sex and power!

[@jaytailee6167]

Didn't they try to kill Melanie's ex-husband, too? Why wasn't she ever investigated!? I have a hard time believing she wasn't in on it!!

[@micheleheard8000]

Yeah what IS up with those gigantic glasses? That’s the first thing I thought.

[@user-cc6ek2ps2o]

Melanie is dangerous!!

[@CatskillsGrrl]

John Dehlin should have been a special guest all along. He knows his stuff. Without the Mormon context you only have half the story.

[@toothless2690]

This was yesterday

[@james123stewart]

Feared about Tylee and JJ??? She had 2 of her own children on deck when her and killer Al went to demand them from grandparents!!!

[@reginaquintana5231]

She needs to be in jail

[@shannonpatch7233]

I’ve always been suspicious of the niece and if she was in on it. They just randomly tried to kill her ex husband and she knew nothing about it?!?! I don’t know. I believe she was manipulated for sure but still always seemed suspicious.

[@Ashbyee]

Melanie should be on trial imo.

[@caldonia7208]

Is it just me or does it seem odd that Melanie stayed with Ian after he was wired?

[@MaggieMay757]

And he her!!!

[@caldonia7208]

@@MaggieMay757 Yes!

[@Grammichal]

I looked up some stuff on it recently. Apparently Ian only used the wire for about nine conversations and then decided he “trusted” Melani, whatever that means. I wondered if she was in on it. I thought perhaps they were both trying to draw out Chad and Loribelle.

[@snowwhite2524]

The Mormon stories podcast is pretty great.

[@helenr461]

But it is so long

[@SherryPresley-tl7vl]

It is good. Just speed it up, you can still understand and it is very informative.

[@wiseup8729]

Where can we find it?

[@SherryPresley-tl7vl]

@@wiseup8729 on KZbin and a podcast. On KZbin called Mormon Stories Podcast. Lots there.

[@snowwhite2524]

​@@wiseup8729KZbin

[@23to]

Can someone tell me what he looks at on his laptop ?

[@snowwhite2524]

Evidence photos and sometimes he's doing nothing but trying to look busy.

[@PaulaWoerner-ck6gr]

I don’t believe a word that comes out of her mouth…. She changes like the wind…. Why’d she not come out sooner…. Is she coming forth for Larry and Kay or too save herself…. Brandon is very very truthful…. I’m sorry but that’s my opinion…. If someone comes to me with a story, I’m going to check thing’s out…. Ian bless his heart he’s naive…. I feel sorry for him, I feel he really love’s her… But don’t know about her???…. There’s a lot more to this story…. Anyone that believes someone is a prophet I’m going to run…. Like I said I’m so so sorry for Larry and Kay…. God Bless Them!!!! Praying for them and the heartache….

[@Luckyone390]

Wasn’t this yesterday’s testimony?

[@Luckyone390]

I’ll answer my question. Yes this was yesterday’s testimony. Vinny please don’t Bate & switch

[@IndianOutlaw1870]

This is Vinnie's show from Monday night.

[@IndianOutlaw1870]

"Bait and switch"

[@jacqueschneider4687]

It's so simple, Jesus said you will know them by their fruit... and as we see what their fruit was was not good, it was evil

[@lucylucy9945]

Don't forget...that "pendant" of Chad's was a necklace found in the church and turned in to lost and found llllol whoooaaaa...Mystical 😂

[@whims6278]

Love to see John from MSP on here. Hes got an excellent channel.

[@annettelacey7913]

Whats with the big stupid glasses melinie had on 😂shes a spinner, If chad told her the sky was green she would believe it,She said chad and lori told her 2 of her kids were dark,Thank goodness brandon didnt get killed and she didnt get her hands on her kids,I really think those kids would of been killed too,These people swap partners & marry more or less strangers,

[@michaelgray-dm3cf]

"People are strange"........................Jim Morrison

[@wiseup8729]

But he made "the deal"

[@jolynarmstrong4687]

Calling people who fall for cult leaders stupid is almost as stupid as saying the teachings of the Mormon cult are good. Please don't invite this guy back. Unbelievable.

[@johnpatzold8675]

The guy either was a complete moron or a Mormon cult follower himself. Read any biography of Joseph Smith or Brigham Young and one quickly realizes how truly cultish the entire movement was and is. Jesus spoke about Love - Smith and Young and company just wanted to have multiple wives (so-called Celestial marriages) and sleep around while others slavishly followed them.

[@JonHullock]

When you have a super crazy family. This is what ends up happening.

[@james123stewart]

Like your 2 children or insured husband

[@mortalclown3812]

None of this ever had anything to do with faith - at least where Chad and Lori were concerned.

[@shannoneggleston4229]

Agreed. Money, power & sex…. Prosecution has it right.

[@user-mf8jp2ud4c]

Late but watching

[@michelet1287]

Prior always says is that right?

[@Jammn126]

Melani incognito🥸…lol

[@annemariemchugh4341]

I dont like getting threatening messages on my device from u tube.

[@sharonashcraft6358]

I watch Court tv all day every day

[@james123stewart]

Did not Ian wittiness the bug out and law enforcement entering mom Lori’s and Uncle Al’s apt’s. Across the street?

[@janehaas1679]

Is the field reporter ok? She seems like she’s working on her anchor voice .

[@dianeblack8849]

People don't follow the bible...they follow man

[@minniemoo6956]

Can anyone talk about the strengthen of the evidence against *him*? It all seems very circumstantial, but also seems obvious that he had involvement in all three deaths.

[@TheTimSargent]

God also allowed David to behead Goliath in righteousness.

[@billyjewett5006]

The Mormon Stories guy thinks about the church 24/7. He didn’t quit the church, he’s just pulling a Chad Daybell from another angle. If I quit golf I guarantee I wouldn’t talk about golf all day.

[@HGD70]

There’s a difference between leaving the game of golf and dealing with the destructive nature of the Mormon church. It takes a lot of time and effort after leaving a cult to process it.

[@Grammichal]

He & his wife have great content about “high demand religions.” I recently listened to hours of a great exposé of IBLP (Bill Gothard’s Institute in Basic Life Principles) / the foundational beliefs of the Duggar family.

[@Grammichal]

@@HGD70 There’s a big exodus out of the Mormon cult in recent years! 🙌🏼

[@samirar1990]

The irony he was reading a book called one foot in the grave 0:55 it’s a premonition about himself

[@Zegers1]

Oh my goodness he was.

[@SMtWalkerS]

Chad wrote that book about his adventures as a cemetery sexton. ThriftBooks has it.

[@ladylunatique9383]

​@@SMtWalkerS I'm sure it's riveting 😂

[@SMtWalkerS]

@@ladylunatique9383 I've read that it's self-serving and drivel. But I'm not inclined to read it to find out!

[@ladylunatique9383]

@@SMtWalkerS lol me neither

[@KBtx23]

I've come to believe religion is dangerous, no matter which religion.

[@darrellhicks360]

Oh boy! Followed Chum?

[@pretzeltime3900]

Straight up Lunatics!

[@HettiedeKorteDiplomaat]

Chad should also have been arrested by the fashion police. I expect somebody with his special gifts should dress a little less boring.

[@annemariemchugh4341]

Dp for him with his smile .

[@kimberlyschleiger6196]

What is up with Mel’s glasses? 😂

[@sharmisthabhattacharya6166]

I think she had an extra pair of eclipse sunglasses,,the " dark" one...

[@mortalclown3812]

​@@sharmisthabhattacharya6166😂

[@franceshaypenny8481]

If people just studied the Bible and Christ's teachings, so much pain could be avoided. But tricksters who pose as clergy count on human laziness and ignorance to fool their blind flock.

[@wiseup8729]

Those poor people were too open minded and gullible too though. Chad summoned up demons with that pendulum. But he was probably demon possessed.

[@alliecampbell723]

The blind will lead the blind. Scripture tells us to study thyself approved. If it isn’t in the holy bible, it’s not truth! Book of Mormon isn’t the Bible. God is against paligimy. The prophet said he had a vision maybe a vision from the devil. That prophet was part of the problem and that’s where all this insanity took place from the very beginning. And look at all the followers who follow the Book of Mormon. People are nuts. If it’s not uplifting and encouraging it’s not from God. JJ was an innocent child. The scripture tells you he who injures a child might as well have a mule stone around your neck. JJ was too little to be dark!! So much death and destruction. Don’t say that is from God. God is a god of mercy and grace. God gives life, he doesn’t destroy it.

[@hr6334]

Daddy? Eww

[@susanolson7442]

I’m First Nation and I’m not dark or cast aside! What kind of teachings are these? Um? Crazy people teaching’s for sure.

[@niax782]

SMH in agnostic 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@23to]

How did Melanie’s mum die ?

[@barbararuell8199]

Stacey Lori’s sister IMO suspiciously died Melanie’s mom

[@debhanzlik540]

Her cause of death was “undetermined” in one article and diabetes related in another!! Weird how all these bizarre deaths surround this family.

[@barbararuell8199]

Diabetic Metabolic Acidosis

[@23to]

@@debhanzlik540 love to see a life time list of those who knew Lori and are no longer here

[@franceshaypenny8481]

The RCC makes similar claims about their priesthood.

[@merricat3025]

They don't say who is light and dark and zombies. Not even close to this