I want to run this against the " It's not that competitive" players at the shop. They love bringing CEDH decks and saying " It normally opens up around turn 10"
@GenXchaos2 жыл бұрын
Oooh yea i know a player who says oh its a power level 5 if it pops off... then in 3 or 4 turns its ahead in mana and infinite everything... kodama sakashima...
@Ephra_wangai2 жыл бұрын
@@GenXchaos to be fair, I actually have decks that are only like a 7 or 8 but I open infinite combos. Like rin and seri, I've turn 3 infinite dogs before because I got a monster hand.
@skynocerous372 жыл бұрын
@@Ephra_wangai what combo? I’m building a rin and seri deck right now
@Ephra_wangai2 жыл бұрын
@@skynocerous37 it's an expensive one since it requires a reserve list card but it's earthcraft+rin and seri+whitemane lion. Basically with earthcraft and commander on board you cast whitemane lion generating a dog, you choose to bounce whitemane itself off it's effect activating eathcraft in response to tap both whitemane and the new dog to untapped the 2 lands you use to cast whitemane, rinse and repeat until you have sufficient dogs to kill everyone.
@Repetoire2 жыл бұрын
Always have a meta buster deck. Run mass artifact removal and counterspells and never let them play.
@twizzla11392 жыл бұрын
Mitch finally snapped from playing against Simic so much.
@madmikey10292 жыл бұрын
Whenever I play edh with my adult kids, it's like an unspoken rule that dad is always the archenemy so HELL yeah I'm building this deck!!!
@nomoreowo58082 жыл бұрын
You should make a zur and hinata deck because they control the board with flexibility and can deal with multiple opponents
@joecary35862 жыл бұрын
My 9 & 10 year old gang up on me in every game.
@jackknife45472 жыл бұрын
Right??? Thanks I thought I was losing my mind 😜
@arjunheart585910 ай бұрын
As the oldest sibling, I have the same situation with my brothers. It's archenemy primarily because I'm the agent of Chaos in our games.
@bzeisman2 жыл бұрын
You forgot Dingus Egg. 2 damage for each destroyed land, and it's 35 cents.
@bzeisman2 жыл бұрын
There's also a Dingus Staff....for creatures
@DistortedShelf0 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but it would deal damage to you as well in many instances... so you'd have to be careful.
@jakeheathcock97352 жыл бұрын
Went against a similar deck and it was great when another player at the table went: "In response I tap 2 and a blue for rebuild and bounce all artifacts to their owners hands." Their face fell so fast thinking that there was no way any of us would be able to keep up. It became a really long game lol
@Rj-pw7zs2 жыл бұрын
I'd have laughed and said well played.
@psycheacheronos2 жыл бұрын
I love this deck, would love to see a non-budget version and the cruelty it could bring
@Odd_is_Gaming2 жыл бұрын
Not really that hard. Seems like it would just be better land base and faster mana rock's. There are not that many nonbudget land destruction cards
@valkan71482 жыл бұрын
A non-budget if this is just an average Lord Windgrace deck. You get to add Jokulhaups, Obliterate, and the red Decree. Toss in a couple of cards like Splendid Reclamation, Crucible of Worlds, Ramunap Excavator, and World Shaper. You get to add tutors and such to find your MLD spells, etc.
@psycheacheronos2 жыл бұрын
@@valkan7148 Then that wouldn't be a non-budget version of this Svella, Ice Shaper deck but as you stated "just an average Lord Windgrace deck"
@slademmxii87592 жыл бұрын
look at strip mine, encroaching wastes, wasteland. wasteland is a 25 dollar land and strip mine is a 15 dollar land. both are simply sac destroy land
@lilapple2 жыл бұрын
zo-zu the punisher is a must have for a deck like this
@brendylove42852 жыл бұрын
I literally just made this deck but decided to go with Erinis and Guild Artisan as Erinis gets you a land back from the graveyard and Guild Artisan makes you two treasures when u attack which guarentees you have 3 mana at minimum every turn while your opponents just get hosed.
@Blackvolttage2 жыл бұрын
Theres three cards that really would make the deck Mitch: Bramblecrush that is just great, mwonvuli acid-moss and, Shigeki, jukai visionary. With regrowth you can just keep getting your whole graveyard back over and over, meaning more land destruction and card draw. Escape to the wilds is also crazy good.
@neillaw2 жыл бұрын
I'd suggest removing bend or break, the nature of the card allows your opponents to choose which opponent chooses the pile, so they will deal with each other to ensure they pick the piles with zero lands and you'll lose your biggest pile for being the land destruction player!
@Dragnonz35472 жыл бұрын
Even if they don't get any lands destroyed in the process they all become tapped, making it easier to do other stuff on your turn
@neillaw2 жыл бұрын
@@Dragnonz3547 other stuff with your half and tapped lands? I guess there's an upside to every down no matter how hard the down is, there are a lot better alternatives though lol
@slademmxii87592 жыл бұрын
the entire point of this deck is to have 3 mana from artifacts before land wiping on repeat. once you have 3 mana rocks you have an infinite source of mana from the commander so you will never suffer from your own cancer deck. just beware of the few very potent ways to completely screw artifact decks. and pray your opponents dont shut down artifacts before the game even begins
@SerialKillerzZ Жыл бұрын
@neillaw what you recommend in place of "bend or break"?
@neillaw Жыл бұрын
@@SerialKillerzZ Anything else, obliterate, jokulhaups, even a non land destruction spell One that simply allows your opponents to only make sure you are the player penalised is not worth having it at all
@arcticframe50402 жыл бұрын
Mitch my dude, who hurt you so badly that you made this thing? 😂😂😂 *Whispers* Add seedborn muse to this deck and you'll be miles ahead of your opponents 😂
@Ephra_wangai2 жыл бұрын
Add ramunap excavator and strip mine to have even more fun. Blood moon to ruin nonbasics they choose to keep
@ericap10982 жыл бұрын
With Muse, gotta add Vedalken Orrery for that extra fun.
@hozyres2 жыл бұрын
Id love like to see a upgrade version of this deck
@nicholaschatham34322 жыл бұрын
Drownyard temple came to mind when you started in on the repetitive land wipes.good catch, great build, love what you do!
@VernulaUtUmbra2 жыл бұрын
I had a deck almost exactly like this back when I played, been thinking about getting back into the game so it's hilarious to see it again. I wasn't a bad guy, I built it to make a point: Red is an absolute powerhouse of a color when built around, but it breaks the "spirit of the format" and that's why everyone says it's the worst color. That was the only time I played it, when someone was saying Red was terrible.
@notimportant7682 жыл бұрын
Noone says that now cause it has the card advantage necessary. White has issues in commander cause most people cant buy the good white card draw because mtg finance people are a holes.
@docsims2 жыл бұрын
I just built this. It's great! I don't care about my opponents feelings during FNM.
@Werewolfoverlord122 жыл бұрын
Major taboo? Me: land destruction? Mitch: this is land destruction Me: yep.
@mahockey3 Жыл бұрын
This deck is now listed at $74.55. Sad :(
@jasonberning32302 жыл бұрын
How about instead of all these "lose your friends for cheap" decks we get some "make your friends love you for cheap" decks, like make a deck that can keep your friends alive FOREVER. Like if 2 of your friends start swinging at each other you step in to say "hey how about no damage this turn" or "maybe we just pick up all out toys and take a time out" basically dont let anyone die... ever... because you done want to see your friends go.... lol Something like "pillow forts for everyone"
@RedFragmentation2 жыл бұрын
So! I made a grouphug deck which had little to no wincon, and it was a lot like this, essentially speeding up the game with Tiro and Meletis while essentially pillow forting Ive broken it up now but its surprisingly fun to play like that… On occasion anyway
@jonlibby72312 жыл бұрын
Mono green fog deck
@cookiecreep92042 жыл бұрын
Cleric tribal gets to do that with battletide alchemist. Damage just ceases to exist
@cedricc34512 жыл бұрын
@@jonlibby7231 go bant, even better. less budget though
@AlejandroNitsch2 жыл бұрын
Lol yes
@Dragnonz35472 жыл бұрын
About ~$31 at the time of my viewing, Incase anyone is curious in how much it rose
@TheTamally2 жыл бұрын
I kinda wanna have this deck in my back pocket just for that one guy who shows up to the LGS with a competitive deck trying to pubstomp.
@Drewbe8212 жыл бұрын
Neat. I built Vazi, Keen Negotiator as a targeted land destruction to force players to use the treasures I give them.👍
@zwolf41182 жыл бұрын
Had a deck like this but worth the runemother was the commander. Being able to copy a stone rain was great.
@Slo-Mode2 жыл бұрын
I really like this deck. It's fun to have a troll deck to whip out from time to time
@opparkster98142 жыл бұрын
untill 4:45 i was like "this in not THAT bad, but then came the land destruction
@Bongus_Bubogus2 жыл бұрын
It’s fitting to have the mini Golos troll be built as a trolling LD deck outside of white.
@Ev1lmOnStErBoY2 жыл бұрын
In the middle of watching the video right now. And looking at the deck so far old gnawbone and helkite tyrant would fit nicely with the creation of treasure tokens and the alternative wincon of 20+ Artifacts and you win at your upkeep..
@chayadol2 жыл бұрын
I love this lose your friend series lol Zurgo deck from very early one, still one of my favorite deck lol
@lynxthewise72332 жыл бұрын
Okay but I need a 12$ deck to make friends. 😔
@FordMrsonАй бұрын
there is no way it's 12 dollars if you count the shipping cost
@00043322 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, thoughts on getting heavily played or damaged cards? Or what about getting heavily played or damaged cards and then using a proxy for them?
@justinfs2 жыл бұрын
I honestly see no problems with it and doubt your play group will, this is only really a big deal if you are a collector looking to bank off of selling the same cards 3-5+ years down the line. The only thing you may want to do is be aware of the cards exact text in case that is the portion that is damaged. That said I've paid for cards that are heavily damaged and more times than not the damage is to the edges rather than the face.
@deciett2 жыл бұрын
@@justinfs Yep. I've been using CQ's advice for hp/d cards for a long time. The worst I've gotten is a few creased cards, and some with significant edge chipping. Usually it's just bad edges or bad surface debris from being used unsleaved a bit too much. I've either been quite lucky or TCGplayer doesn't allow people to sell cards with damaged rules text.
@spiritofthenight90672 жыл бұрын
I was told by my LGS that TCGplayer won't let them sell cards that can't be played in a sleeve. All damaged cards I've purchased have been fine to play with. Saves a ton of money.
@neillaw2 жыл бұрын
Why not just use a proxy off the bat and save buying a heavily damaged card?...
@spiritofthenight90672 жыл бұрын
I don't have any issues with proxies. It's a game. Have fun with it.
@tatsuhirosatou55132 жыл бұрын
my go to lose your friends deck is grand arbiter Augustin 30 lands, 10 rocks, 30 counter spells, 20 draw spells, and 10 non land perment wipes.
@GrinningJest3r2 жыл бұрын
Whats the wincon?
@TalesOfSurvival2 жыл бұрын
sounds like a fun deck to roll into a game store you will never return to with.
@lukebrown26742 жыл бұрын
It would be really fun to see a Relentless rats or even just a rats commander deck on your Channel
@stormd2 жыл бұрын
The whole video I kept thinking, Crucible would be great here, and might as well toss in wasteland/strip mine/Ghost Quarter, but of course some of those cards themselves cost 2-3x the rest of the deck combined, lol
@Romashka_Sov2 жыл бұрын
Imagine this deck against another one from this channel, "99 lands" one
@astonrichardson52882 жыл бұрын
Borborygmos!
@MrThomasCWest2 жыл бұрын
I built a similar version using Narset as my Commander and Thousand-Year Storm to really clear the board.
@matthewgallaway36752 жыл бұрын
You’re a bad person
@mediumdoubledouble90127 ай бұрын
The first minute of this video had me bust a knuckle crack and go all on.
@andrewmurray98982 жыл бұрын
Lmao. This seems like a Impractical Jokers punishment. “All right Sal all you have to do is go into the card shop where all these guys are playing Magic and play this deck.”
@theputnamto34689 ай бұрын
i thought about putting tsunami in my U/G merfolk deck along with the new blue moon, but then i realized i would blow up all non basics, and islands, so my entire manabase would be gone, and everybody at the table would still have some of theirs, and they would be very angry lol
@dominicwilson94672 жыл бұрын
2 weeks later this deck on the low end now costs just over 20 bucks
@nickkooyman44452 жыл бұрын
What is the decks win condion? And perhaps as a non budget upgrade, arcane Bombardment?
@UpdogGolf2 жыл бұрын
Who would win 99 land space baby or this one?
@carlospolk50332 жыл бұрын
Lol if this is all it takes to lose them, how much will it cost to get them back? 😂 (so I can do it again!)
@dropkickpadawan18882 жыл бұрын
how much does a happy meal cost nowadays?
@carlospolk50332 жыл бұрын
@@dropkickpadawan1888 lol idk, I haven’t been to McDonald’s in over a decade. Can’t imagine it costs too much. But I think it would take more than a couple happy meals (contrary to its name) to earn them back 🤣
@dragonheart53492 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, in just a year, McDonald's workers themselves won't be able to afford them :)
@OneThousandTinyElephants2 жыл бұрын
alternate between this deck and grouphug
@waynefeller88242 жыл бұрын
$7.52.
@Nr47472 жыл бұрын
I immediately called that it's mass land destruction the second you revealed Svella after saying the deck does something "taboo" in Commander.
@drsatne47302 жыл бұрын
I can't remember what the card is but I find it worse the land destcrtion but I think it's blue and let's you take all the lands a player controls... also if you want to be extra mean add splinter and a card like liquimetal coating
@keerakitsapvisut59182 жыл бұрын
Love it Please add list of cards (honorable mention) that should be add for not so budget deck. I really really want lose all my friends Thank you
@Ephra_wangai2 жыл бұрын
Strip mine, crucible of worlds, lannery storm, all immediately come to mind
@jaymulligan39622 жыл бұрын
I understand land destruction to get ahead in resources but how do you kill the opponents? Did I miss that part in the video?
@Chris-wd3sw2 жыл бұрын
That's the fun part
@joshuaburgess41582 жыл бұрын
Waking the trolls
@josephdowler93442 жыл бұрын
Ordered. I’ll try it out. Looks like fun
@elitebuster20122 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this deck in action, see how it works.
@marcoottina6542 жыл бұрын
honestly, I was expecting something like darksteel/blightsteel colossus and other huge stuff to cast "for free", or some dumb combo involving snow and/or artifact stuff, but it would be a very different video and title
@withasilentg2 жыл бұрын
What 12 dollar deck has either of those
@cultofnatethemagnificent58798 ай бұрын
There's also worldshaper, 3/3 and when it dies you return all lands from your graveyard to the battlefield. The only downside for this deeck is that when it attacks you mill three Also depending on where you buy it gaea's blessing might be good for this decks, plus it's nice to not be millable
@steventyler358211 ай бұрын
One of my friends likes to play decks of much higher power than our decks regardless of our complaints.....This is just revenge.
@thesanwhichlord53552 жыл бұрын
Would Ramunap excavator be a good fit for the deck? allowing you to play cards from graveyard rather than return them to your hand?
@nightbane7272 жыл бұрын
no where near the budget but yeah it and crucible of worlds would be great
@dr.bakterius11682 жыл бұрын
Of all these cards, one must have Orcish Settlers just for the Artwork :D
@SimoneBonetti77 Жыл бұрын
I dont't understand how is possible tonwin with this deck.pkease, can someone help me?
@kiwifpv9 ай бұрын
Just built a deck like this but with yuma, great protector as the commander and a bunch of cards that let me play lands from graveyards
@jex_be2 жыл бұрын
had lot of fun with this style mixed with a drawing cards meta to make opponents sweat seeing their deck melt need a try with ciommander XD
@Inushiak2 жыл бұрын
For some more "fun", you should add a Jokulhaups :)
@bastionbrom89272 жыл бұрын
jokulhaups doesn't work well in this deck since it blows up your mana rocks.
@SpikexSpeigel2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I added thrun the last troll and by force so I can target their powerful mana rocks as well
@EvadeNRG Жыл бұрын
Def buying this just because of one dude at my shop who runs heavy infect or heavy competitive decks which are hard to face against with precons lol
@NebulaMK2 жыл бұрын
Last time I played tsunami my friends slammed the table and left to the living room to sit on his phone in silence for over an hour.
@dark_fire_ice2 жыл бұрын
So, I was going say how does the deck deal with Stony Silence, but unless it's in the opening hand, might not matter
@YonkerMan2 жыл бұрын
cant belive you forgot to add "Splendid Reclamation"
@alexgosan57072 жыл бұрын
And what’s the wincon? I mean it’s great you got manarocks and the opponents don’t but whatsoever you do to win? Just hope they scoop after having no lands?
@vajazzlerthis Жыл бұрын
As soon as I seen the commander I knew where this was going
@TheArchitectJC2 жыл бұрын
Gonna go right next to the board wipe deck
@ivernedit2 жыл бұрын
I have a svella deck that I play at low powered tables. You are gonna give it a bad rep, Mitch!
@goodcreeper653mincraft22 жыл бұрын
Rules were meant to be broken! I have nothing to loose because I have no friends!
@dyingflames21932 жыл бұрын
I'm happy you made this joke but sad that you beat me to it.😂
@TheDriitz2 жыл бұрын
Im staring to play how many basic lands do you recommend?
@ceeagelevair36302 жыл бұрын
1 Round with this grants you 5 rounds vs Infect. I hope you got something to read while waiting ;D
@ethanmiziko51502 жыл бұрын
I have a Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale.
@ethanmiziko51502 жыл бұрын
#NeverHadFriends #WhatAreThose
@doemagic2 жыл бұрын
At the beginning I was like "It can't be that bad". Then at 4:30 I understood why... yuck lol
@bayutrismienantha28302 жыл бұрын
In deck in my build list, still not finish . Maybe this video will give some idea
@givitback53232 жыл бұрын
Add some Territorial Dispute to go with this Drownyard Temple
@xgtexdopey1474 Жыл бұрын
Just priced the deck. At Starcity with shipping it’s $30. At TCG it’s 90 🤣💀 I text my buddy and told him this 2HG Commander tournament we’re gonna enter at the RCQ is gonna end up nasty. To bring 2 vests 🤣💀🤣💀🤣
@Dinoschnaffy2 жыл бұрын
Decks like this is why I subscribe :)
@HeadPatsForCats2 жыл бұрын
I built this deck as a entirely as a joke, I carry it around with a rubber band around it and in a ziploic bag as a deck box and ran it in my commander group raw (no sleeves) which is already making them raise thier eyebrows. And then just to ruthlessly destroy land in the meme troll deck is hilarious.
@Tacticalsniff2 ай бұрын
i run a black white boardwipe angel deck and i live for someone to pull up to the pod with this deck. I have to hold back the toxicity of the deck to follow "da rulez" so itd be nice to get to let it all out lol
@matthewbusch65252 жыл бұрын
Video was up for an hour and the price is up to 30 dollars with shipping. Lol
@OfficerNinetails2 жыл бұрын
I ran Hokori as my commander, then swapped him to Shalai, Voice of Plenty. She appears less staxy, and Im still running it mono white even though shes a G/W commander. She gives Hokori hexproof, and one of my favorite combos is the Gideon that gives you the platinum angel emblem effect, with Shalai and eight-and-a-half tails in play. Combine these with Orb of Dreams and Winter Orb and cards like Magus of the Moat, well, yeah. Make sure to use armageddon after floating mana after a teferis protections been cast
@JackBlack-qn7us5 ай бұрын
Where the cat at? I only clicked for the sassy cat.
@Scheuersicle2 жыл бұрын
Myojin of Infinite Feel Bads better be hanging out here...
@tristanconus30632 жыл бұрын
How do you win if your opponent just has a few early game creatures on board? This deck has almost no board management nor any real board pressure
@ian-raynel37612 жыл бұрын
I missed the part of how you win with it?
@vegeman7119 Жыл бұрын
have the cards increased in price? coz from what i see here the price is wayyyy larger than $12
@DDTRAINER2 жыл бұрын
I actually blew up somebody's lands once with strip mine while playing Muldrotha. It was the slowest burn ever but they were playing dinosaurs and I hadn't hit a land drop since turn 4 so I decided we were both going down at that point. I don't remember who won but it was a slug-fest between dinosaurs and rats until one of us eventually fell.
@soulassassin0g2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't include Decree of Annihilation in this deck, any reason why?
@zeri38892 жыл бұрын
Really like the idea, but anyone has some suggestions on how to stay alive to get this combo rolling?
@seandavis96572 жыл бұрын
To answer the first question of the video, last time I played someone called me a baby for wanting to swing back at them after they hit me with a ulamog, with my ulamog.
@turtleinvader29822 жыл бұрын
One question what's the win condition?
@JewFO_real2 жыл бұрын
win con is the point at which you have only mana rocks and nobody else has land
@frankkeiper4222 жыл бұрын
Love this deck😆👏👏 but good luck getting it for $12.
@fattyson22 жыл бұрын
Because losing my friends for $13 dollars would be unlucky
@Therodaas2 жыл бұрын
That's why its $12 my guy. Mitch is out here looking out for us.
@derangd3339 Жыл бұрын
My friends don’t like my blue deck from you they won’t play if I pull it out lol. Let’s try this one now
@PirateCowboy692 жыл бұрын
Can't seen to find anywhere to buy this deck list 😕 either its expensive as shit and/or a big chunk of the cards arnt in stock
@Shadeninjax5 Жыл бұрын
So I am curious every time I see one of these 12-dollar decks or a low-cost deck tech vids when I go to see how much it would be to buy the cards it's over 100 dollars. Is the list just basicly to tell us what to get and then go to your LGS and get them so you don't pay shipping costs?
@Shadeninjax5 Жыл бұрын
So I think the large price I keep seeing is from shipping which he does talk about at the end of the video.
@JonSteitzer2 жыл бұрын
Tried to buy this on tcg and it rung up as 150, am I doing something wrong?
@ZMacGregor2 жыл бұрын
Same issue here
@ShortyIsIllegal2 жыл бұрын
splendid reclamation could be used well
@KuroSukotto2 жыл бұрын
where do you get these prices Every time i see these they end up costing way more
@barryramone53972 жыл бұрын
Not quite budget, but price of glory would do wonders in this deck.
@joelserrao2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: March of the Machines turns all the Manalith tokens into 0/0 Artifact creatures that immediately go to grave.
@hut5hut62 жыл бұрын
1:28 start
@100Cheen2 жыл бұрын
It was 35.31 for me. Waiting till it gets here to see about the loose you're friends part😭