Lost Gospel of Judas Discussed at RSE Part 2

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Bart D. Ehrman

Bart D. Ehrman

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@veresannamaria4584
@veresannamaria4584 4 жыл бұрын
It is amazing how intelligently he can answer any weird question
@ElDavidThomas
@ElDavidThomas 6 жыл бұрын
My mom aplogized to me the night I graduated high school in 1995. She said, "I'm sorry I didn't save money for your college. I could've sworn Jesus would've come back by now."
@1N2themystic
@1N2themystic 6 жыл бұрын
What is worse is that money was probably put in the collection plate and the tithe envelope at church.
@tracepillar8382
@tracepillar8382 4 жыл бұрын
That's sad man.
@WorkingPeopleUnite
@WorkingPeopleUnite 11 жыл бұрын
Weird crowd. Weird questions. Great answers.
@pelhamonetwothree1239
@pelhamonetwothree1239 11 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE SO FREAKING RIGHT
@dlehmann8353
@dlehmann8353 6 жыл бұрын
It is RSE.... where one learns how to implement Consciousness and Energy to create reality - Quite dynamic place and teachings
@jasonthedragon73
@jasonthedragon73 6 жыл бұрын
@@pelhamonetwothree1239 The taking of?. I read a book with your title once..
@knaptmenneskelig2611
@knaptmenneskelig2611 6 жыл бұрын
Obviously you know nothing of Yelm Washington..... Where they wear Birkenstock's with wool socks, kiss trees and eat dirt ...... What I call whack-a-doodles ...... Although they are far more open minded people looking for the truth, they are funny, strange and endearing people...... unlike the narrow minded, uptight christians who believe in the "Goat Herders guide to the universe" (or what they call the bible) .......
@oldmanballs
@oldmanballs 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a crazy group of old ladies who think they have magic powers. Look it up.
@lozganon64
@lozganon64 7 жыл бұрын
Man, as much as I would love to study everything Ehrman studies, I don't know if I could emotionally make it through those Q&As. But every time a touchy question came up, he kept it lighthearted and found a way of teaching that would really reach them. I love this video.
@Ryan.gambill23
@Ryan.gambill23 4 жыл бұрын
Alright, guys, we have one of the best scholars of New Testament history here and he’s willing to answer our questions. Let’s ask him a bunch of BS about Mary Magdalene and nothing else.
@Actueel68
@Actueel68 9 жыл бұрын
11:50 I really admire Bart saying "I don't know". I think more people need to say this.
@GlobeHackers
@GlobeHackers 6 жыл бұрын
"I'm agnostic and I'm an atheist." That's the thing. I do appreciate his unflinching candor.
@trustjah
@trustjah 6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it's the most honest answer.
@healthyone100
@healthyone100 6 жыл бұрын
he really doesn't believe jesus existed he's just doing this for the money!
@mathieuvanleeuwen7127
@mathieuvanleeuwen7127 5 жыл бұрын
Almost always the best anser to give for anyone, anywhere, anytime anyway. (I think, I'm not sure)
@mathieuvanleeuwen7127
@mathieuvanleeuwen7127 5 жыл бұрын
'answer', I mean
@Cuffsmaster
@Cuffsmaster 6 жыл бұрын
I agree the space ship landed and brought the crowd but the answers were as good as they could be to the questions.
@Rhombohedral
@Rhombohedral 5 жыл бұрын
3:43 an identical twin brother makes the resurrection quite more attainable
@anitahyche1
@anitahyche1 5 жыл бұрын
Yes Thomas and Didymus both meaning twin seems important.
@annk.8750
@annk.8750 5 жыл бұрын
What does "attainable" mean in your context? Do you mean "more easily faked"? Because a twin would definitely make that an easier carnival trick.
@planeblaknwyt3537
@planeblaknwyt3537 4 жыл бұрын
So the qur'an could be true?
@derp195
@derp195 4 жыл бұрын
@@planeblaknwyt3537 Well yes, but actually no.
@karethap8827
@karethap8827 10 жыл бұрын
Wow, one of my favorite Ehrman talks/discussions yet. His debates get a little repetitive (the nature of having the same argument over and over and over), but this crowd and discussion are absolutely fun, enlightening, and awesome. I loved how he got to flex and show off the breadth of his knowledge, not just historicity of Jesus stuff. Too much fun. And with a metaphysical leaning crowd. How awesome!
@Naegimaggu
@Naegimaggu 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and his flexing came about very naturally as with the question about Mary Magdalene, he realized maybe he was being a bit too terse and gave the asker something that touches on the subject even if it wasn't exactly what they wanted to hear (because there is no mention of Mary Magdalene having that kind of relationship with Jesus).
@tblz406
@tblz406 5 жыл бұрын
“That’s why they were Sad-U-Cee?” Haven’t heard a religious joke that good in a while
@TheMightyMcClaw
@TheMightyMcClaw 6 жыл бұрын
Is it plausible that [lengthy treatise veiled as a question]? "No."
@malloryemclaren
@malloryemclaren 4 жыл бұрын
Alexander Kostrzewa Is it PLOOOOUSIBLE
@anneteller3128
@anneteller3128 4 жыл бұрын
If you're talking about the lady at 19:42 all the way to 31:24, she still got in the last dig when she said, "Thank you very much, and best wishes to you on your research and your 'future discoveries'". In other words, it's just a matter of time.
@Artiri
@Artiri 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is hilarious, I love him for that.
@dessertstorm7476
@dessertstorm7476 6 жыл бұрын
this woman at 33:00 has never heard the expression "history is written by the winners"???
@typaul4859
@typaul4859 4 жыл бұрын
The sexual tension between the middle age female audience and this dude is palpable
@patrickmcelrath4962
@patrickmcelrath4962 4 жыл бұрын
Dessert Storm that shit was in MW2
@steppenwolf3252
@steppenwolf3252 4 жыл бұрын
Many women have never been encouraged nor treated like winners. You can help change that in your own corner of the world.
@sentientthundertank2079
@sentientthundertank2079 4 жыл бұрын
I was reading this comment while she was babbling 🤣😆 FFS does anyone have an intelligent question
@beastshawnee4987
@beastshawnee4987 4 жыл бұрын
Me Yo hahaaaa Probably right. I don’t see that but some probably are crushing on him. I listen to Bart to fall asleep to...I find him relaxing, predictable and he repeats the same lecture 50 times with small changes so it is just interesting enough to follow and just slow enough to nod off to. LOL. But I love his work even if I am more of a mythacist personally. It is all myth/ legend-every bit of it. Yet sprinkled with some historic towns and people.
@onethreeify
@onethreeify 4 жыл бұрын
"Is there a 1 in 9999999999999999999999999 chance that Dan Brown was right? I will ask this until you say yes because I base my entire world view on it."
@JimmysJunkAcct
@JimmysJunkAcct 11 жыл бұрын
Great talk. Funny seeing the contrast between his serious, erudite tone and the bizarre questions of the audience - I got the impression that some of these people are new agers/gnostic mystic types, hehe
@sandy_the_hippy
@sandy_the_hippy 6 жыл бұрын
Some of them? You should Google the school which is the location for this lecture lol
@anitahyche1
@anitahyche1 5 жыл бұрын
Do tell!
@turinhorse
@turinhorse 5 жыл бұрын
lol why does the crowd clap at such odd things
@jasongallman2032
@jasongallman2032 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! They clapped at the twin theory?
@felicciasc
@felicciasc 5 жыл бұрын
If I were Jesus, I would have given everybody a different story just to watch people go crazy and argue till I came back
@andrewbesso4257
@andrewbesso4257 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't the Joker say something like that? "If I have to have a past, I want it to be multiple choice."
@auramarina5431
@auramarina5431 4 жыл бұрын
NIC FEL - Precisely!!! That exactly what evil would have done. 🙃🙃🙃 .
@abdulmunim318
@abdulmunim318 4 жыл бұрын
Not to say that it happened as you suggested but the stories are different. Just read them individually and take note of all the differences and contradictions. One question amongst many to ask. Is what did Judas do with the money 💰 and how did Judas die. A million dollar question
@sharonhall1067
@sharonhall1067 4 жыл бұрын
Ehrman is an excellent teacher. I love his lectures. Informative & entertaining.
@Oldmaster51
@Oldmaster51 10 жыл бұрын
I want to thank you for making thiseasier to understand. It's taken me a long time to able to walk away from religion as well and it wasn't easy. Your right it is the fear, but through logic, reason, and education. I feel more alive than ever before. Thanks.
@drrydog
@drrydog 5 жыл бұрын
I give you..... " Bart Ehrman meets Cat ladies"
@austenhead5303
@austenhead5303 3 жыл бұрын
Cat ladies are far saner than this bunch. Also, cats definitely exist, and are adorable enough to inspire building a collection. I can understand cat ladies.
@Chartoise
@Chartoise 8 жыл бұрын
These people are nutcases... Seriously, a question should be short and clear... Like: What's for dinner? They ask it like: If you go to the supermarket and you walk around with a shopping cart... When you then pick up certain items and put it in your cart with the intention of purchasing it... What will it be and how will you prepare it in the evening?
@somniumisdreaming
@somniumisdreaming 8 жыл бұрын
haha spot on.
@Tamlinearthly
@Tamlinearthly 7 жыл бұрын
That's not just these people, it's all people in all academic settings. Nobody wants to ask a question, they want to show off how much they already know.
@CADILLACSAVAGE
@CADILLACSAVAGE 7 жыл бұрын
Chartoise so true, you forgot to ad "as a person who eats dinner" at the beginning of each of your sentences lol.
@salifouidrissa6519
@salifouidrissa6519 6 жыл бұрын
Funny buddy!!
@isotopefeeney
@isotopefeeney 6 жыл бұрын
" What's for dinner?" If you believe in the Eucharist: Jesus!!
@shawndurham297
@shawndurham297 4 жыл бұрын
Still not sure why they’re clapping at Bart saying that Jesus/Thomas are twins?
@Anthro006
@Anthro006 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding q&a! I have only just recently started listening to Dr. Ehrman's talks and am sad I didn't find him ten years ago! Loved this entire lecture! Very clear and precise talk!
@gunterstunter
@gunterstunter 6 жыл бұрын
0:58 the guy sitting down looked extremely uncomfortable with that lingering hand on his shoulder.. 😂
@dmctorun
@dmctorun 5 жыл бұрын
You are so right about that!
@artvanderlay1308
@artvanderlay1308 5 жыл бұрын
I know! Haha he kept massaging his left shoulder!
@daniellepearsall4978
@daniellepearsall4978 4 жыл бұрын
hahahha I did not even notice that till you said it
@Nobody-11B
@Nobody-11B 4 жыл бұрын
No doubt. Poor bastard 😂
@Iswideshut
@Iswideshut 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed
@littlekiwi9724
@littlekiwi9724 6 жыл бұрын
Dan Brown must be the bane of Dr. Erhman's existance. The lady at 19:43 shows this need to believe the "wife of Jesus" story. Women have been so harmed by Christianity it's not surprising.
@anitahyche1
@anitahyche1 5 жыл бұрын
Well it's more palatable than the beloved disciple being John who had his head on Jesus Christ all the time.
@sentientthundertank2079
@sentientthundertank2079 4 жыл бұрын
Totally, they're so diminished by Christian dogma that they search for powerful effeminate connections outside of the official line, it's why women revere rebel icons like Lilith and go through "witch" fazes, it's because internally even they don't agree with the masculine fundamentals of their own religion.
@KEPoles
@KEPoles 11 жыл бұрын
First impression, this is a wild group of people.
@dlehmann8353
@dlehmann8353 6 жыл бұрын
RSE - Look it up
@shahidachoudhury6925
@shahidachoudhury6925 5 жыл бұрын
completely.
@steppenwolf3252
@steppenwolf3252 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing and creative. So much energy and individuality. So refreshing after struggling through Trumpland's hellish swamp of darkness and dirt. Gives on hope. Please let us survive this madness and grow stronger, embracing our unique light and truth and living our bliss.
@fun-with-purpose1436
@fun-with-purpose1436 4 жыл бұрын
Omg I thought this lecture was about Judas Iscariot?! The QnA is just Mary Magdalene questions/arguments and sex with Jesus and Dan Brown fantasies.
@izabels04
@izabels04 4 жыл бұрын
Same. Questioning sanity of some.
@coosoorlog
@coosoorlog 6 жыл бұрын
Every time they say Dan Brown, I die a little.
@Lasselucidora
@Lasselucidora 5 жыл бұрын
Haha, I have same feeling. death by embarasment.
@austenhead5303
@austenhead5303 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, The Da Vinci Code was a tight, well-written novel. People just need to learn to not confuse good fiction with reality. I grew up immersed in Middle-Earth and loved it with every fibre of my being, but you don't see me asking astrophysicists whether there's any hope of discovering the way into the West. If the state/fed gov made decisions based on actually wanting to improve the country, there would be classes in formal logic, source evaluation and critical thinking beginning in middle school, but unfortunately that doesn't produce easily manipulated voters or obedient workers, so we can't have that. We just train kids in the basic skills they need to generate wealth for the owners and to not think too hard about the whys and the what ifs. The by-product of that non-education is this.
@Man_Lantern_Skateboards
@Man_Lantern_Skateboards 10 жыл бұрын
is the audience drunk? They are laughing their ass off and their questions are really poorly formed
@TrueBiblicalChristia
@TrueBiblicalChristia 9 жыл бұрын
lesterhalfjr They've over meditated in the hope of separating their soul, but in so doing they've separated their minds.
@perceptionisall
@perceptionisall 6 жыл бұрын
Drunk or stoned? Audience represents strange mix of arrogance and ignorance. I admire Bart's remarkable ability to provide a useful, interesting answer to nonsensical questions.
@RussellPolk1
@RussellPolk1 6 жыл бұрын
@@TrueBiblicalChristia Really? Do you think their any worse than faith healers, snake handlers or for that matter, belief in a magic baby or indeed anything that defies the rational? These folks are no more "misguided" or have "separated their minds" than ceremonies that transubstantiate unleavened bread into actual flesh or wine into actual blood are. The bottom line is: once you reject the reality of the world for the unreality of any religious belief, one irrationality is as good as the next.
@Hrugnir
@Hrugnir 6 жыл бұрын
If you search for videos of their cult leader giving speeches, you'll get an idea of what kind of crowd Bart is surrounded by...
@steppenwolf3252
@steppenwolf3252 4 жыл бұрын
You see how one can embrace love and truth and laughter without judging each other and dissing their ability to form questions. Take your negativity somewhere else please. We're enjoying life and each other over here. We rebuke your bad vibes!
@souloftheage
@souloftheage 4 жыл бұрын
The eccentric nature of the crowd(notice they're all sitting on the floor) is explained by the fact this lecture("dialogue" as used in The School) is being held at The Rathma School of Enlightenment in Yelm, Washington. The "school" was started by a woman named, J.Z. Knight. She claims to be channeling an ancient warrior who fought against Atlantis; Rathma. She is a nutso. Her story is almost as interesting as this lecture!, It is she-not J.Z. the music mogel-who is asking questions over the internet. I was a bit confused at first. Rathma doesn't seem to ask any questions. But why should he?. He has all the answers.
@mugglescakesniffer3943
@mugglescakesniffer3943 4 жыл бұрын
I had the pamphlet 88 reason, and I got the next one 89 reasons because of a "Mathematical error". I remember I was physically sick thinking about what to do for forever when I was a fundamentalist Christian. I deconverted after over 27 years of research. I was saved at the age of 5 and I deconverted at the age of 45.
@deborahcadabra-w5z
@deborahcadabra-w5z 4 жыл бұрын
Muggles Cake Sniffer I too was saved (brainwashed) at five. When my children grew up I decided I might take up theological studies. Not only the literary contradictions, but the absolute farcical nature of the epistles of Paul, began to gnaw at my logic and critical thinking. It took only 1 year of study to become unconverted much to my children’s absolute delight. The three of them said they had a hard time accepting I had still believed after all of them realising in Sunday school it was all,fairy tales. They had been respectful of my belief but would never engage in discussion about it only to say come on mum you can’t possibly still think that way laughing.
@malikamalik5703
@malikamalik5703 4 жыл бұрын
As a Muslim I enjoyed this presentation. Thank you Dr
@默-c1r
@默-c1r 3 жыл бұрын
You know something's wrong when the youtube comments make more sense than the live audience. Poor Bart didn't know what he was getting himself into there.
@truthfiction8408
@truthfiction8408 7 жыл бұрын
I may not agree with everything Barth has said, but I think his contribution towards understanding the source of the bible and it's content is invaluable. Thanks so much for the insight.
@GlobeHackers
@GlobeHackers 6 жыл бұрын
I loved this talk. It was very entertaining. Bart's sense of humor is wonderful. I share his values for sure and hope to see you all at his blog. Keep going Bart, it's fun learning from you.
@richardkranium2944
@richardkranium2944 4 жыл бұрын
That guy that asked the first question is a rather patient cool guy. I say this because as he sat there waiting to ask his question the guy talking kept putting his hand on this guys shoulder. He kept looking at the hand on his shoulder but responded not. I personally don’t like strangers touching me, it’s a pet peeve I guess.
@willfourth
@willfourth 11 жыл бұрын
No Fun, too much Damn, and not enough Mental. Love it.
@Ploskkky
@Ploskkky 5 жыл бұрын
What's up with the applause at the most weird moments?
@abdulmunim318
@abdulmunim318 4 жыл бұрын
Don't be Sad u cee
@williamhutcheson8361
@williamhutcheson8361 6 жыл бұрын
Best statement "Once you're dead you stay dead".
@armymobilityofficer9099
@armymobilityofficer9099 8 жыл бұрын
What does Ehrman think about a 35,000-year-old being called Ramtha the Enlightened One? Belief in Ramtha the Enlightened One may provide some explanation of the audience.
@dlehmann8353
@dlehmann8353 6 жыл бұрын
Investigate what is accomplished by the students there... you may want to go yourself... it is wise not to judge what you don't have an experience with...
@ingloriousbetch4302
@ingloriousbetch4302 4 жыл бұрын
@@dlehmann8353 accomplishments or not doesnt negate the death, injuries, controversial beliefs of a group of nutcases who think their leader chick is channeling a 35k yr old mystical thing called Ramtha with all the cult bells and whistles of brain washing, fear tactics and such
@coosoorlog
@coosoorlog 6 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that somewhere out there there is an undiscovered lost gospel that confirms that Anakin Skywalker was indeed the chosen one to bring the balance to the force? Is it a possibility or a potential?
@Dreammaster695
@Dreammaster695 5 жыл бұрын
Coos Oorlog no
@kimbye1
@kimbye1 10 жыл бұрын
What`s with all the stupid Mary questions? Dan Brown writes FICTION, how hard is that to understand...
@PDeRop
@PDeRop 10 жыл бұрын
Apparently, for some people... very hard. Loved the book, loved the movie, but never for a second I doubted it was a FICTION movie :)
@johnniebee4328
@johnniebee4328 6 жыл бұрын
I guess this particular cult believes in Mary as a divine figure
@cyn3rgy759
@cyn3rgy759 4 жыл бұрын
I mean the bible is fiction, so...
@beastshawnee4987
@beastshawnee4987 4 жыл бұрын
The Testament writers wrote fiction too. Bart won’t/ cannot afford to admit that fully. He is dug in now.
@Xenotypic
@Xenotypic 4 жыл бұрын
@@beastshawnee4987 is all of academia too dug in to admit it too? the academic consensus is that there was a historical Jesus
@spsmith1965
@spsmith1965 9 жыл бұрын
Very enlightening. I plan on buying some of Dr. Ehrman's books. I have read quite a bit on this subject and I am learning new things.
@sagebias2251
@sagebias2251 3 жыл бұрын
This is how you handle stupid questions.
@mitchellrose2940
@mitchellrose2940 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful that people are asking questions about the bible.
@marcduperron6062
@marcduperron6062 8 жыл бұрын
I utterly like the passage at 37:10, when Bart explains where he comes from. My own experience is very different in all the details, but similar in the essence.
@chuckschillingvideos
@chuckschillingvideos 6 жыл бұрын
The cray cray is strong in this crowd.
@HConstantine
@HConstantine 10 жыл бұрын
Why is there applause for the statement that in Syriac Christianity, Thomas is Jesus' twin brother? Are these people Gnostics?
@mawa89g
@mawa89g 9 жыл бұрын
I also wondered about that. I'm pretty sure quite many of them have a kind of mindset that would welcome anything which would be considered unorthodox by 'normal' Christians.
@digidgetnation
@digidgetnation 9 жыл бұрын
HConstantine Yes, that was pretty strange alright. I don't get why they applauded. I sense neither does Professor Ehrman.
@TrueBiblicalChristia
@TrueBiblicalChristia 9 жыл бұрын
HConstantine I agree: It seems that they are interested in anything that contradicts Orthodox Christian tradition.
@Chartoise
@Chartoise 8 жыл бұрын
No, it is very revealing. Hence the applause. The gospels that were removed, are the gospels of the people that were very close to Jesus. Something that is probably not a coincidence. If Thomas is his brother, it explains why his gospel was removed. Thomas probably didn't write about Jesus asif he was divine. He wrote about Jesus as a man... It was very important at one time, to make Jesus out to be God himself. So if mother Mary gave birth as a virgin, because she was implanted with the seed of God, then why would she give birth to twins, were one is the messiah and the other a normal guy? You see, the Bible was very large... and the story became a little scrambled and unclear... So they just removed the contradicting gospels. The Bible as we have it now, is chopped up. They even documented that they removed a great percentage of the story. The church, at one point, didn't want to tell the story of a man... They wanted to tell the story of a god...
@COLDB33R
@COLDB33R 7 жыл бұрын
@Chartoise - good answer. What a lot of Christians, including a good number of Christian 'scholars,' refuse to admit that the New Testament was written, edited, and put together by PEOPLE. Just ordinary people, like you and me. And, those people had agendas that in most cases were anything but pious. Obviously, when 'editing' turns into 'suppressing the real story' - and then scraps of the real story survive that suppression - that doesn't reflect well on the 'orthodox' Church Fathers who engaged in that suppression. The truth of it is that the authors of the bible were often diametrically opposed to the teachings of the historical Jesus, beginning with St. Paul. And that opinion doesn't come from any Gnostic or heretical new discoveries. If the only parts of the New Testament you ever read were Epistle to the Galatians and Acts of the Apostles, you would see that Paul was the ENEMY of Jesus followers, who after the crucifixion followed St. James (another brother) as their leader. ..And the introduction to the gnostic Gospel of Thomas identifies him as Judas, Didymos Thomas. So it could in fact have been authored by this twin. Didymos is the Greek word for twin. Thomas is the Hebrew word for twin. Judas, twin twin. Quite a name. And possibly one and the same as the disciple 'doubting' Thomas.
@N1976DL
@N1976DL 7 жыл бұрын
@ 15:20 That lady. LOL!! She's on, whatever the gnostics were on, when writing their gospels.
@dynamic9016
@dynamic9016 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite Video by Bart Ehrman.
@melissamybubbles6139
@melissamybubbles6139 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder what his thoughts are on Mormons? It's kind of nice that they are irrelevant in his discussions but I'm curious.
@nromk
@nromk 4 жыл бұрын
Mormons are a whole different animal! I mean they're Christans but their orgins are with the time period in between the first and second great Awakening, and the theological questions both partaining to democarcy and in the case of Mormons, to the indginous and more importantly Christinaity in the USA.
@zetaepsilondelta545
@zetaepsilondelta545 10 жыл бұрын
So funny when the lady asks a great long question about Mary and Jesus and you just reply "err..no". Haha. People seem to miss the whole point of Jesus's mission to save Mary not shag her. Lol
@steppenwolf3252
@steppenwolf3252 4 жыл бұрын
Why not do both? Most men would and it's not so dumb when you hear Brad's story of that group in India
@abj136
@abj136 4 жыл бұрын
@Chupa Cabra Bart would lambaste that notion. The documentary evidence is conclusive.
@aranielleb7718
@aranielleb7718 4 жыл бұрын
@@abj136 how is it conclusive?? Did Jesus himself write any of these documents?? Was any of these historical "evidence" documented during the life of Jesus??
@beastshawnee4987
@beastshawnee4987 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently Mary was the one saving Jesus if she was financially supporting him...
@markIOP123
@markIOP123 6 жыл бұрын
One of your best lectures very informative.
@rickpur100
@rickpur100 8 жыл бұрын
Jeebus - who are all these ding-bats in the audience?!
@jamesreagle245
@jamesreagle245 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with his summation - when at 40 I turned away from my catholic christian upbringing and for the last 30 years I am a spiritualist free from the chains that do not allow me to think.
@Tagenarine1987
@Tagenarine1987 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like Gnoticism is similar to Hinduism.
@allanamaya6103
@allanamaya6103 5 жыл бұрын
It would seem like the venue organizers had a hard time filling up the venue and so opted to bus people in from the nearest mental institution without first giving those inmates to take their medications.
@allanamaya6103
@allanamaya6103 5 жыл бұрын
...inmates a chance to take ...
@somniumisdreaming
@somniumisdreaming 8 жыл бұрын
I see the cultists of the RSE are happy to show their prejudices and ignorance in this Q and A.
@thumbsdownbandit
@thumbsdownbandit 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr. Ehrman, based on the observation that animals are not humans. Is it possible that one day there will be a gospel discovered that proves that Jesus had a vegan female dog named "Shlomit", who went on a mission and converted more animals to Christianity than the Apostles?
@sandy_the_hippy
@sandy_the_hippy 6 жыл бұрын
Seems as reasonable as the claims made in current gospels
@jlrinc1420
@jlrinc1420 5 жыл бұрын
Yes what an old. Hidden gospel called the gospel of tin tin says wAs that supposedly tin tin was married to schlomit and had puppies that we're blessed by Jesus and landed At a shelter in southern france
@mangalovers.714
@mangalovers.714 3 жыл бұрын
why are they so worried about the relationship with jesus and mary?.... they should ask questions relating to what he said for christ sake.
@raymond942
@raymond942 5 жыл бұрын
Gnostics were the original Christians, who were killed off for a political roman version to expand the empire. Original gnostics were closer to the Eastern faiths that allows the connection of the individual to the universal divine. The gnostic writings mirror the Eastern spiritual philosophies very closely...
@gazzamc1255
@gazzamc1255 5 жыл бұрын
How long does it take to ask a question?
@conquestmedia2490
@conquestmedia2490 6 жыл бұрын
Serious teaching talent
@Zimpfnis
@Zimpfnis 4 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine that at 19:15 he stopped himself from saying "all that crap"
@Isaac5123
@Isaac5123 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. I would however like to ask whether Hisorians are evaluating like the bishops on Nicea did in 325AD and are really missing out things of importance that should be included as history. Possibly the discovery of more manuscripts could change history.
@anitahyche1
@anitahyche1 5 жыл бұрын
You mean when MEN took the books and stories and short works being passed around as fan fiction and decided what was true or not? If course they cut a lot If it out to make a state religion for Constantine that United the nation and made the followers passive to being ruled. Why would they nk t do that? It was to their advantage to set up passivity and power for themselves. They never thought we would come this far and be able to go find what they tried to destroy. They never realized the earth was not the center, or flat, or germs existed. These are the things God as Jesus would have known and told us.
@adammorva1969
@adammorva1969 10 жыл бұрын
A very impressive lecture/standup comedy. Good job.
@adielwilson8749
@adielwilson8749 4 жыл бұрын
Subject material: possibility to learn about a book that might have the secrets of the universe. Questions: Did Jesus and Mary Magdalene do the do?
@freeman8759
@freeman8759 6 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that goes, "Aw hell, Another weirdo wasting a question." ?
@DylanfollowerofYah
@DylanfollowerofYah 5 жыл бұрын
I literally was just thinking that..first off that lady at 18:00 took forever with her questions and then I could see she was basically having a come apart up their because she was like how is this important to me questioning Christianity!..and Bart's like well if you're a gnostic it's important because God is evil and this explains his evilness..and she's just like .."oh yeah. Thanks" but I feel she just was looking for a validating statement to be like these guys (gnostics) got it right!
@VvDOPAMEANvV
@VvDOPAMEANvV 10 жыл бұрын
Outstanding presentation!
@josiechapman2375
@josiechapman2375 4 жыл бұрын
He would make a great straight man. Love his stuff. His voice is soothing to me.
@chansetwo
@chansetwo 11 жыл бұрын
Very informative presentation. Thanks for posting!
@Patrick77487
@Patrick77487 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation!
@khaledalothman4314
@khaledalothman4314 4 жыл бұрын
Why did they clap when he mentioned Jesus's twin brother Jude?
@michaelsommers2356
@michaelsommers2356 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't Rodgers and Hammerstein write a musical "One Bride for Seven Brothers"?
@parler8698
@parler8698 5 жыл бұрын
Bat droppings crazy questions.
@apm77
@apm77 4 жыл бұрын
54:00 I've always felt there's a deep paradox in Christian teachings on marriage. On the one hand, it is portrayed as in some sense sacred, but on the other hand it is explicitely taught that it doesn't exist in Heaven? So how can something be sacred if it doesn't exist in Heaven? This paradox bothered me when I _was_ Christian. Fundamentalists will point to the idea attributed to Paul that the church is the bride of Christ, but that is problematic (to say the least) and in the epistles there is nothing to indicate it is more than an analogy. Elevating it to a received truth about the essence of marriage itself is a later innovation, and I've always wondered if a desire to resolve the aforementioned paradox was a driving force in that development. Also, it is very interesting that Bart regards this saying of Jesus as historical. I would love to know why, and also, to explore the implications of the conversation between Jesus and the Sadduccees as a whole, because he goes on to make some rather curious remarks. 55:00 A common mistake people make in talking about the history of religion is assuming that religions are or ever can be static. People seem particularly prone to make this mistake in the case of Judaism, for some reason. Modern Judaism is presupposed to be a reliable model for the Judaism of two thousand years ago. BTW, could scholars ever have been as stupid as portrayed at 55:48? I'm remembering some conversations I had about 20 years ago in with someone who made this error (which frustrated me at the time), but they weren't a scholar.
@dramaghost999
@dramaghost999 4 жыл бұрын
As far as the crowd goes, it was the weird building with the glowing blue pentacle that tipped me off to this venue differing from your typical auditorium. In the comments it states that it was filmed in Ramtha School of Enlightenment’s center. Just a quick google and boy oh boy does that explain a lot. It’s weird but no matter how many Jonestowns, Branch Davidians and Rajneeshpurams there are (to name a few) people can’t seem to stray away from joining cults. 🤷‍♂️ I guess they want to be in the - Gno. Ba-dum-pssssh 🥁
@StefanTravis
@StefanTravis 10 жыл бұрын
Very good presentation, utterly stupid questions.
@mathieuvanleeuwen7127
@mathieuvanleeuwen7127 5 жыл бұрын
Some questions have a feminist taste, yes. ( 'is Bart Ehrman a useful source or not' , seems to be the agenda behind those particular questions)
@pillettadoinswartsh4974
@pillettadoinswartsh4974 5 жыл бұрын
Consider the source: www.ramtha.com/video/ramtube.aspx They sure have a healthy sense of humor though. They actually laugh at themselves.
@claudecasalini913
@claudecasalini913 5 жыл бұрын
No such thing as stupid questions, there's only stupid people who think questions are stupid
@jeova0sanctus0unus
@jeova0sanctus0unus 4 жыл бұрын
@@Thebigbendfungicompany well someone is proud of themselfs for coming up with what you are pretty sure is a zinger.
@jeova0sanctus0unus
@jeova0sanctus0unus 4 жыл бұрын
@@Thebigbendfungicompany well someone is proud of themselfs for coming up with what you are pretty sure is a zinger.
@davidkennerly
@davidkennerly 6 жыл бұрын
I was hoping that Ramtha would channel a question by way of JZ Knight for Bart.
@nickreads
@nickreads 10 жыл бұрын
Wow, the questions on here.
@jamesmoss7919
@jamesmoss7919 8 жыл бұрын
Thank u Bart. Great presentation.
@metal87power
@metal87power 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know therefore I can't and I shouldn't say anything about the things I'm unaware of. An Atheist is simply a rationalist and a philosopher who dismisses religious faith as an inaccurate and insufficient method of learning about the reality around us.
@AncientDJs
@AncientDJs 6 жыл бұрын
Great Q&A, you killed it!
@johnfortich
@johnfortich 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. An eye opener.
@tinyguy9398
@tinyguy9398 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Bart. Re: all the people asking why you as a historian can believe in the possibility of the Gospel of Judas without seeing it, but not attest to the marriage of Mary Magdalene and Jesus, a better explanation might have been that with a lot of the gnostic texts that were found to be extant, there was ample cooberating evidence from other historical sources that mentioned those texts and therefore made it easy to infer a) that the texts at least existed prior to being uncovered and b) that once they were uncovered, certain details written about the texts in the historical sources made it easier to authenticate those texts. Being that the heresyologists at the time deigned to write about the Gospel of Judas but not make any mention of a heretical Gospel that proclaims Mary the wife of Jesus gives credence to the likelihood that there was no heresy back then worth cataloging that contained a description of Mary as the wife of Jesus. I would imagine if there was such a text the heresyologist most definitely would have called it out as being particularly problematic. Then again, your long aside re: the apocalyptic sects not taking wives was rather interesting so I'm glad you didn't go with the easy answer regardless. Thanks for posting the video!
@patrickcowan8701
@patrickcowan8701 4 жыл бұрын
I remember some Essene text where the Elder's where mad at Jesus for being married as that would have disallowed him from becoming a priest,true or not i do not know as I'm not a scholar.
@Templetonq
@Templetonq 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding Rev 9:17-19: John is pointing to the modern mode of fighting on horseback, with the rider leaning forward, which, to his sight, and to the sight of one looking on at a distance, would appear as the great mane of the lion; the man leaning on his horse’s neck. He would, in fighting with firearms, have to lean forward to discharge his piece, lest he might shoot down his own horse that he was riding. In John’s day the posture was very different. . . . Now, I want to ask my friendly hearers if it is not as literally fulfilled before our eyes as anything can be? Are not all nations engaged in this mode of warfare? Do they not kill men with fire and smoke and brimstone? . . . Do you not know that this is just ignited gunpowder? . . . Could an uninspired man, in the last of the first century, have told of this matter? We have a few more than one billion inhabitants on the earth.... But of that billion about five hundred millions (onehalf) are females, leaving an average population of male inhabitants of about five hundred millions; and of that number about one-half are minors, leaving about two hundred and fifty millions ofadult males on the earth at a time. But ofthat number of adult males about one-fifth are superannuated-too old to fight. These are statistical facts. This leaves exactly John's two hundred millions of fighting men on earth. And when we prove a matter mathematically, we think it is pretty well done.'" J. L. Martin, The Voice of the Seven Thunders: or Lectures on the Apocalypse 1873 Proof that biblical prophecy was “coming true” in 1873?
@JACKnJESUS
@JACKnJESUS 5 жыл бұрын
As to the issue of Jesus not being a rabbi (which seems plausible). Perhaps the rules of being a Rabbi were changed later on, specifically to filter out apocalyptic thinkers from their teaching ranks. A way to tamp down the movement.
@jasonpillay9909
@jasonpillay9909 6 жыл бұрын
This guy is very entertaining and knowledgeable.
@jvanson1153
@jvanson1153 10 жыл бұрын
Why did Professor Ehrman choose to speak before this Cult?
@adammorva1969
@adammorva1969 10 жыл бұрын
Why not?
@PDeRop
@PDeRop 10 жыл бұрын
I believe it's called : earning money :)
@ph_ballanced5972
@ph_ballanced5972 6 жыл бұрын
Please confirm my predetermined ideas that have no verifiable sources...
@buffectomorph9657
@buffectomorph9657 4 жыл бұрын
In pt1 he said he had knowledge but wouldn't share it because he wasn't too sure about some people in the crowd...
@handstandish
@handstandish 5 жыл бұрын
Funny and educational talk Bart.
@souloftheage
@souloftheage 4 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for any academic who has to engage with an audience that believes he will prove their particular belief system to be the true one.
@57Carlibra
@57Carlibra 9 жыл бұрын
I loved this video... I'm going to share it.
@ygolonacable
@ygolonacable 5 жыл бұрын
Silly women: "What's the difference between a legend and history?" Ehrman: "History is something we have some evidence for." Silly women: "Yeah, but how do you know legends aren't real?" Ehrman: "We don't know absolutely that they're not real, but we have no particular reason to believe they are real, because we have no evidence for them." Silly women: "Aha! we don't know that they're not real. Thank you." Ehrman (thinking): ("Sheesh") - Oh, the R is for Ramtha. Didn't see that.
@cnav9758
@cnav9758 4 жыл бұрын
I really wanted that answer for the question about enki and enlil
@xlxdeboxlx3767
@xlxdeboxlx3767 4 жыл бұрын
Why, it was stupid. Completely off topic. He is a new testament scholar.
@nathanwhite704
@nathanwhite704 4 жыл бұрын
It seems Bart Ehrman rejects the theory that Mary Magdalene, Mary of Bethany, and Mary the sister of Lazarus were all different titles for the same girl.
@conradekeke8789
@conradekeke8789 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I’m sure I’m quite late but I would love to ask what Jesus meant when he said Judas was a thirteenth spirit?
@Wawi633
@Wawi633 8 жыл бұрын
Where did this talk take place. Does anyone know what the RSE is?
@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164
@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164 8 жыл бұрын
Read the description.
@1nazore
@1nazore 7 жыл бұрын
What if there is a life after this one, what if there is a God who did create this world and us for a purpose? Is your belief or there lack of a point of convenience? I do have to admit you’re an amazing speaker and extremely knowledgeable! I thank you for what you do... Belief is an individual thing...humanity is one. We need to live and let live
@StephenSmith-dx9tr
@StephenSmith-dx9tr 10 жыл бұрын
Wonderful and dare I say Inspirational.
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