Lost in Translation: The Son of Man Coming in the Clouds of Heaven is NOT Jesus!

The image of the "Son of Man returning in the Clouds of Heaven" becomes common among Christians to refer to Jesus and his 2nd Coming. However the phrase originates from Daniel 7 in the Hebrew Bible and has nothing to do with the coming of Jesus or any other Messiah figure.
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[@dbf876]

Son of Man = Jesus Text says…”there before me was ONE”…not plural, singular, one person, not many. “HE approached the Ancient of Days”…not they but HE, as in an individual, not a group of people. “a Son of Man”…Jesus is referred to as “a Son of Man”…dozens of times this phrase is used to refer to Jesus. Jesus himself refers to him being the Son of Man. It is Jesus, not the Church, that receives “authority, glory and sovereign power;” It is Jesus, not the Church, that is to receive WORSHIP! The Church in the text are part of the people in the text giving worship, not receiving worship. Not even the Angel in Revelation 19:10 thought himself worthy of worship…why would the Church receive worship in place of Christ!? That’s absurd! The text keeps referring to a HIM, HIS…singular male…not a group of people, but a singular person, a male…Jesus the Messiah! “HIS dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and HIS kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.” This was God’s promise to King David that the Messiah would someday be crowned in Jerusalem and the Messiah would have an everlasting kingdom! While the kingdom of the Antichrist will be given over to the People of God, it will be Christ who will reign, not the Church. It will be Christ we will need to obey, not the Church. It will be Christ who forever will be worshipped, definitely NOT THE CHURCH! You can’t brutally butcher a text to make it say something that it doesn’t say. And you can’t ignore what the rest of Scripture says about these events in other prophetic passages. To elevate the Church over Christ our King is heresy! This is a dangerous interpretation of Scripture not at all in line with the rest of the Bible and should not be taught or endorsed.

[@cuillinguy]

Except that the New Testament misquotes various passages of the OT to justify its theology. E.g the "virgin" birth with the word "virgin" never meaning that anywhere in the OT. Its changed in the NT to say something it doesn't say. Interpret the OT by the OT not through a NT lens. If you can't do that you're just making it up.

[@byronumphress3805]

SON OF MAN, EZEKIEL ! SHALOM

[@melaniebaynes2730]

And Isaiah referred to the time being "at hand", and he was six hundred years in advance. So the interpretation of time being "at hand", meaning imminent, is not right either. And when one looks on the whole Creation, and the infinity of God, what is time anyway? What we mortals think of as a long time, eg six hundred years, or two thousand years, will be nothing in the grand scheme of things to the Lord God. I'm just adding that, because it is mentioned in the video, that the "time is at hand" meant it was very soon, within the Scripture time period he discusses. I am fed up with man putting their own spin on it all, and then 'teaching' it as if they are absolutely correct. I don't lean into my own understanding, but trust in Jesus. And to anyone who disputes even His name, there is irrefutable power in that name. That's why every trick in the book is being played to stop Jesus's name being spoken. "A house divided cannot stand", so how can the Bible (or parts of it), be the work of the devil, when it's the devil that hasn't stopped attacking it? I think we're all better off concentrating on Jesus, and stop looking for things that He told us not to. No signs will be given, except for like in the days of Noah. Just be right with God, and leave the rest to Him.

[@cuillinguy]

The "dozens of times" is in the New Testament not the old. If you can't prove Jesus is the Christ purely from the OT then the NT doesn't stack up. As he says, the passage says "a son of man" not "the". So it merely means someone human not angelic. You have to ask what does it say in context not what some NT writing says. That's no proof. The NT changed OT words to make it suit NT theology e.g. the "virgin" birth where the word is "young woman" and it never means "virgin" nor was the passage about the messiah.

[@logicasola5828]

You are absolutely right my friend. I was about to say that, I'm glad I read the comments first, you succinctly stated it well.👍 As a regular follower of Dr. Tabors work, he's right in some, but definitely he's WRONG on this one. It's very clear, the "Son of Man" refers to a SINGULAR being, and it's a male (HE) in particular. So many scholars have already pointed it out and it's clear. The Saint's and Church will only have dominion once the "Son of Man" already received all power and authority, and that is Christ. I don't care what other interpretations like the one Dr. Tabor just presented. We should always "Exegete" and let the text explain itself. And it clearly points to Christ without a shadow of a doubt. ✝🔥

[@johanscheepers1198]

dear Mr Tabor, as Jesus said "You search the scriptures thinking you will find the truth but they speak of Me". He is the subject of all the Bible, the coming Glorious King who is to rule with a rod of iron. Worship Him, as ''every knee will bow and acknowledge Jesus as Lord".

[@PazPinhasRahamim9220]

Would you like to know what the Passover lamb was really about? I'm Jewish.

[@mysticwanderer4787]

@@PazPinhasRahamim9220 What would a Jew know about the Hebrew Bible? (Sarcasm)

[@PazPinhasRahamim9220]

@@mysticwanderer4787 Enough to debunk your part of it...

[@PazPinhasRahamim9220]

@@mysticwanderer4787 Do you know what hara הרה (Isaiah 7:14) actually means?

[@mysticwanderer4787]

@@PazPinhasRahamim9220 You missed the (sarcasm) of my comment. I have great respect for the Jewish interpretation of the Tanakh. My degree is in religion and focuses on first-century BCE and CE Judaism and the messianic, apocalyptic Jewish sect of Jesus followers. I am supporting what I believe to be your stance as a Jew if it is in line with the rabbis and Jewish scholars I am familiar with and not the interpretation of modern-day Christians. My apologies if you took my comment the wrong way.

[@ViralChristianity]

*_"I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve HIM (לֵ֣הּ): his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and HIS KINGDOM (וּמַלְכוּתֵ֖הּ) that which shall not be destroyed."_* *_And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, HIS KINGDOM (מַלְכוּתֵהּ֙) is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey HIM (לֵ֥הּ)."_*

[@chericandream]

CommonWeath -- Hebrew= CrossedOver sWORD Spirit and Truth -- 7th day sAbbAth's Seal -- Covenant IN Loyalty The Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah= Spirit= AbbA Creator Father. Yahu'Sha Hebrew Anointed SonShip= sWORD and Head(ROCK) to body(stones) of congregation covenant loyal (be)living IN earth, that adhere TO His voice: (Yashra'Al) ...The Most High Ahb Y6ahu'Ah sovereign saves. Emet ❤️ Love you Ahb Yahu'Ah sovereign of my breath, soul, and the blood IN my veins (DNA). (Psalm 90:12-17) So teach us TO number our days, That we (may) apply our hearts unTO wisdom. Return, Oh Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah sovereign, how long? And let it repent thee concerning thy servants. Oh satisfy us (early) with thy mercy; That we (may) rejoice and be glad all our days. And counting: ...1st day/night season of the WorkWeek, ...2nd day/night season of the WorkWeek, ...3rd day/night season of the WorkWeek ...4th day/night season of the WorkWeek, ...5th day/night season of the WorkWeek, ...6th day/night season of the WorkWeek (double up): ...for the morrow’s morning IS the Seventh day/night sAbbAth's season. Emet ❤️ What was Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob considered before the 12 tribes were born? ...And before Yahu'Sha the anointed Hebrew Messiah, rather than the Roman religion's man-made diety with the Greek name that has no power and authority IN the Kingdom's throne. ...Go to (Genesis Chapters 15-17) and (Hebrews Chapter 11) to understand the Covenant Loyalty and 'Saving Will' Testimony of the Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah sovereign ❤️ ...They were all faithful, obedient, and walked with the Most High Sovereign IN UpRightNess, Kingdom MindSet Justice, and were SetApart from embedded pagan world religious conditioning and dogma. Tsion ❤️ Praise and thanks to the Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah for His 'Saving Will' Testimony IN His anointed Hebrew Son Yahu'Sha Messiah. Prayers, blessings, and peace (restoration) of the ❤️, for those that adhere TO His voice, covenant, and commandments.

[@ViralChristianity]

@@chericandream The Bible teaches that Yahweh God will come in human form as the salvation (Yeshua Jesus) of our God the Father. A spirit that denies that Jesus is God manifested in the flesh is antichrist.

[@LoveSumsItUp]

Astrotheolgy astronomy

[@amsterdamG2G]

​❤YEHOVAH ❤YESHUA ❤​@@ViralChristianity

[@habarinjema461]

That's true

[@Edwin-pw7cu]

Jesus favorite way to refer to Himself is the Son of Man. And when He was on trial for the Crucifixion He tells them they will see Him coming on the clouds of heaven.

[@twnb7733]

The apostate West is sinking. Time to enter into the Boat of Noah.

[@Babe07000]

Thank you so many deceitful videos on here but they will stand judgement Amen

[@SeekingTheTruth14er]

This one actually angered me a bit because it is so easy to see how false it is for anyone familiar with scripture. You would have to be an academic with no spiritual understanding to come to this conclusion. It makes me wonder if he has no understanding or if it is purposeful. I don’t like thinking the other. However, it presents us with an opportunity to change hearts and minds😇 Still, so hard to believe but remember spiritual understanding only comes from The HolySpirit. So scary, we are that vehicle called for it to work through. We were there once😇

[@LisaSchulanerFineArt]

He doesn't actually say that durring the crucifixion. He says you will be with me in paradise. The criminal next to him on the cross says something about him coming into his kingdom and obviously he means after they die and enter heaven. Then Jesus says you will be with me in paradise. Nothing about a second coming on the clouds.

[@rhdalllday]

@@LisaSchulanerFineArt Matthew 24:29,30 right before he is crucified Mark 13 Luke 21

[@godwinsboom]

The one who comes in the clouds sends HIS angels to gather His elect from the 4 winds Matthew 24:30-31

[@TheObserver37]

It’s very good for you to be focused when reading the Bible I do admire that. Having said that there’s a basic rule the word of God brings peace understanding the word of man brings misery, confusion it’s hard. Jesus is easy. That’s my rule when I read the Bible so I can tell the difference between man’s word and the word of God.

[@alexluthiger731]

The Words of God bring peace and understanding. The Words of humans bring misery and confusion and war. We are judged by our own words through the Word the Christ Jesus has spoken. The observer's Word has power. 🍷🎃

[@davidarmes747]

I think the Bible has been tampered with. I dont think that God's way was meant to be so difficult for us to understand. I have to apologize.. the way I phrased my comment made me sound like I am ignorant to religion. Sorry. But thanks to everyone for the kind gestures to lead me in the right direction!! 😀

[@thomassmith2624]

General Order 12: all subspace messages to be coded while under attack. Lieutenant Saavik Star Trek.😂

[@mikemelcher1705]

It was clearly tampered with. Look into the council of Nicea. Also look into the Ethiopian Bible.

[@hellgato777]

Do me and yourself a favor by typing Bill Donahue Hidden Meanings in your KZbin search engine. The Bible is easy to understand when you have a great pastor , and nobody does it better than Bill. 1 hour will change your life.

[@harveywabbit9541]

Throw all the books away and think for oneself.

[@mikemelcher1705]

@@harveywabbit9541 read and study all the chapters (books) and you might discover it is much greater than most can comprehend. You are absolutely right though, this must be done thinking for yourself. And all the "books". Not just the abrahamic ones.

[@EXISTENCE1891]

I'm surprised that doctor Tabor takes this view. Virtually all son of man references are to Yeshua, the second Adam 1 Cor 15.20-23

[@pinky9440]

No, it is not. Do proper research and you'll stop regurgitating church doctrine.

[@EXISTENCE1891]

@@johnmichaelson9173 Who is Dr Table?

[@johnmichaelson9173]

I trust Dr Tabor over you.🙂

[@johnmichaelson9173]

@@EXISTENCE1891 Take your best guess?

[@danwaggoner5123]

Dr. Tabor, I would like to point out to you that in Luke 7, the Pharisees call Jesus a drunkard and a glutton and Jesus' response in to remind them that John the Baptist came eating no meat nor drinking any wine and you said he had a demon, but now the SON OF MAN comes to you eating and drinking and you call him a glutton and a drunkard (Luke 7:34). Jesus clearly believed himself to be the Son of Man. I understand that elsewhere it is not so clear, but, at least here, Jesus is referring to himself as the Son of Man.

[@YaA-l-ex]

Before mentioning any Jesus' saying, one should take into account that whatever the Jesus of the Bible says or performs, it is not necessarily what the real Jesus once said but that what those who wrote the texts put into the mythical character's mouth for you to get convinced that he's indeed the Messiah predicted by the ancient prophets. However, it doesn't mean that the authors of the New Testament were deceivers but that they based their writings on oral accounts and rumors about Jesus who had already become a mithological character decades before the first attempts to write down the myth were made. For example, following the gospel according to Mark, one can see that Jesus, when dying, has no idea why he's dying although 1 or 2 chapters earlier he explains why he's going to suffer and eventually die to some of his disciples. So, being the earliest gospel of the NT, Mark contains both the truth about the real Jesus and that what's come up with as the myth evolved. To sum up, whatever the biblical character named Jesus tells, especially about him as the Messiah or the future, trying to scripturally substantiate it, it is an author/editors's insert. So, nothing set forth about the Jewish Messiah in the Old Testament has anything in common with Jesus. Hence, it is of no use to try to figure out what the biblical Jesus means by saying this or that.

[@danwaggoner5123]

@@YaA-l-ex I’m quite aware of all that, but there is simply no way to know what the historical msn said and what was put in his mouth. Dr. Tabor’s reference is to the text of Daniel, while stating that the biblical Jesus is not the Son of Man. I merely pointed out that Jesus, in the Bible, referred to himself as such.

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

​@@danwaggoner5123 Thanks for sharing your comments. I've never studied the book of Daniel. God bless you and your family.

[@randatatang9222]

​@@YaA-l-exMay I remind you that there is simply no place for mythicists among historians. Stop trying to justify the nonsense you believe

[@martinfernandez882]

​@@randatatang9222 Shows how little you know about this, one not need be a mythicist to say Jesus didn't say he was the Messiah. He could've been a very enlightened, even prophetical, but not messianic figure.

[@roberthawes3093]

This interpretation makes a great deal of sense given the fact that, in Genesis, man is clearly depicted as God's viceroy over the earth. A son of man being given the kingdom after judgment has forcibly taken it back from the hands of rebels is perfectly consistent with that imagery.

[@fcastellanos57]

Daniel 2, may be talking about the saints of the Most High, but it includes the coming of the Messiah, our Lord. There is no coming of the Kingdom of God without the coming of our Lord. 1 and 2 Thessalonians depicts this coming. Jesus will take over the whole world and all its governments, take evil out of here and place righteousness in its place from that point on. There is a hiccup at the end of Millenium but Satan and all unrighteousness will disappear forever.

[@JukeBoxDestroyer]

you've become little more than a heretical click-bait merchant. how unfortunate.

[@harveywabbit9541]

The Eagle, Aquila constellation is very famous. This birdie carried Moses/Ganymede to Mt. Sina/Mt. Olympus (summer solstice). Exodus 19.4. Yes, this "Eagle" is Zeus/Jupiter/Indra.

[@stephenballard-f9h]

Dr. Tabor is a very good scholar and a good man. He understands that some times these too literal interpretations of apocalyptic literature lead to tragedy. Dr. Tabor saw what happened in Waco. The same thing also happened in 70AD when the Jews had hoped their apocalyptic literature symbolized Jewish victory over Rome. It did not happen, and it was a disaster for the Jewish people - then and ever since.

[@ervinlayne8988]

You need to read the new testament on the subject, either you don't understand what you are saying or are deliberately deceived

[@LisaSchulanerFineArt]

Are you sure? How do you know he is wtong? Are you a highly educated Bible scholar with many many hours of personal study and revelation? Also do you know how to translate from Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic? Or Bible college? Which one?

[@tonyrhineheimer6556]

The New testament is garbage Jesus was a false prophet

[@Bildad1976]

“I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like a son of man, and he came to the Ancient of Days and was presented before him. And to him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve him; his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom one that shall not be destroyed." Hmmm, This can be no one other than Yeshua HaMeshiach (Jesus)!

[@stevenclark5682]

Mother Earths kingdom NOT mans

[@stevenclark5682]

Great Spirit is the Ancient of days NOT Yahweh.Yahweh is the fallen one!

[@debbieruttenberg4152]

The verse says, "like the son of man".

[@timothy4557]

When you mess with the Book, God messes with your mind.

[@boldtruth6226]

God never tempts us. It is our desires and chasing after material short lived moments and things to buy our happiness That loving is impossible on earth anymore. But all who know Jesus in their deeds, and soul by making Jesus like choices. Always loving. Love is always reciprocated and no longer will our relationships hurt us and betrayal is so bad it's even in homes, fathers against sons sons against sons mother in law against doughter, daughter againd mothers. But God picked his beloved of us and made a new kind of human.a more advanced DNA where it has just begun to be stable in the blood, and the angels are changing our DNA. This us why we all get sick so easily. Angels are aliens. The Hebrew word aliens was used 2000 years ago? Are angels good and bad?

[@johnmichaelson9173]

Don't be so superstitious, smh.

[@timothy4557]

@@johnmichaelson9173 God messed with your mind. 😊

[@johnmichaelson9173]

@@timothy4557 👈You're the one making the silly comments. I rest my case.

[@Rupunzelsawake]

It's more accurate to say the Book messes with your mind. There's overwhelming evidence of that among bible believing Christians.

[@karenlumpkin2918]

You are taking them out of context.

[@harveywabbit9541]

Chap. 2. In the second year (month = December) of his reign, Nebuchadnezzar (the winter Sun) "dreamed dreams," whereat he was greatly troubled. Notwithstanding he had forgotten his dreams, he greatly desired to know, not only the dreams, but their import. For this purpose, he summoned all the magicians, astrologers and Chaldeans before him to tell him what he had dreamed, and what his dreams foreboded. The king's command was accompanied by the promise of immense rewards to the astrologers, if successful, and also by the most frightful punishments in case of failure. The poor astrologers were in a bad fix. However, they told the king of the unreasonableness of his demand; that there was not a man on earth who could "show the king's matter" (vs. 10); and that it was absurd to ask " such things at the hand of any magician, astrologer or Chaldean." At this the king grew furious (the cold increased), and ordered every wise man of Babylon (winter) to be slain. This decree, of course, included Daniel and "his fellows," then captives in Babylon. Daniel was somewhat concerned, not only for himself, but for "his fellows." He, therefore, wisely returned to Arioch (Sagittarius0, " the captain of the king's guard," who was on his march to slay the wise men of Babylon (the constellations then above the horizon), and asked why the king was in such haste (vs. 15). Give him a little time, and he would not only show the dreams, but the interpretation thereof also (vs. 16). Daniel then consulted his fellows, desiring that they with him would seek the mercies of the God (Eloh) of heaven (summer) concerning this secret (the phenomena of the year), and so save themselves from perishing with the Babylonians (vs. 18). " Then was the secret revealed in a night (mid-winter) vision, and Daniel blessed the God of heaven " - " Blessed," said he, " be the name of God for ever and ever " - from winter to winter, is the correct translation, i.e., blessed be the name of God during summer, for wisdom and might are his (vs. 20). He changes the times and the seasons; removes kings and sets up kings; gives wisdom to the wise, etc. (vs. 21). He knows what is in darkness (winter), though the light (summer) dwells with him, i.e., he knows the phenomena of the year = the king's secret (vs. 22). Therefore, Daniel praised the God (El ah =himself) of his fathers, because he had made known to him the "king's secret" (vs. 23). Having learned the dream and its interpretation, Daniel hasted to Arioch (the light, or spring equinox), "who brought him before the king (Sun in Aries) in haste," and said: I have found a man of the captives of Judah that will make known to the king the interpretation (vs. 25). The king asked Daniel if it was so (vs. 26). Daniel answered, assuring the king that though his wise men were unable to find out the secret, there is a God (El ah) in heaven (Aries had just got there) that can reveal secrets, and that he will make known to Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter

[@donaldhandy1060]

The Son is the representation of The Invisible Omnipresent Almighty God "When you've seen me you have seen The Father"

[@christophernichols1379]

"A chip off the old bloc, a spitting image."

[@DanielWise-v1f]

Finally.. 😅 א גוי מיט א יידישער קאפ Why is it so rare to find an honest academic who can just share an empirical reading 9f the text. Bless him

[@thejobslayers]

This is indeed Jesus, but not at His 2nd coming, but at His ascension. He ascended to the right hand of the Father and was given dominion. He Himself says that at His ascension. Matthew 28:18-20 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

[@josephpchajek2685]

Well, technically he's still in the clouds helping us as I type this. He's here now in that aspect. The next resurrection is a different event.

[@thejobslayers]

True, I was just pointing out that the verse in Daniel 7 was a prophecy referring to Jesus' ascension and that Jesus Himself told Caiaphas and the Sanhedrin who were present that He was that figure prophesied. That's why Caiaphas tore his robes and claimed Jesus was blaspheming because he claimed to be that one who would appear before the Ancient of days to assume dominion. And He is currently ruling at the right hand of the Father until all enemies are made his footstool as prophesied in Psalms.

[@77at77-fw2tw]

@@josephpchajek2685 The old God must have had other things to do.

[@Jbagggg]

Hi, James! Such a great upload, full of interesting insights and perspectives that were before unknown to me (though admittedly my Biblical understanding and knowledge - theologically and historically - is still in its relative infancy). I'm nigh on a year of having found the very salvation you're referencing in the video, of course, as it relates to the scripture(s) in discussion. At times I say I'm a born-again believer, or Christian, at other times I have been eternally blessed; that is, to have been found by God - salvaged. However, most of the time, I struggle to pinpoint the most fitting description, or 'label', of myself as it relates to the context of spiritual identity. Now, that's not to say I don't feel as if I've been born again, or that I'm eternally blessed and thankful for my salvation, or even that I'm a Christian. In fact, the irony of it all is that the aforementioned statements are the most orthologically precise ways I can describe what I am. Yet alas, in the current age, merely to say one is a Christian, carries along with it the unfortunate baggage of religion and man's iniquities, and nothing of salvation, forgiveness, redemption, love, peace, or unity. So, I suppose what I'm saying is that I am - and continually strive become - as pure a Christian as possible. And for me, that means to simply follow the words, actions, teachings, and life of Christ. Devoid of any religious interpretation or teaching of such things through the filter of men (and when I refer to teaching and religious interpretation, I am referring to the moments of my life that concern my own individual path of spiritual enlightenment as I hunger to ever-closer to God. All the rest of the time, to be able to learn from such thinkers, teachers, and pastors, too, is equally a blessing in my eyes. This of course includes yourself!) I raise all of these points to ultimately say three things: 1.) In addition to watching this video, I also recently watched the 'Blogging Theology' discussion you had a few years back, in which you lightly described your personal outlook toward it all, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it seemed you also struggled to find a 'camp'. I found a sense of solace in this, and after watching the above, it has helped to further my own theological understanding and knowledge. The idea you put forth that Jesus, John the Baptist, and the great Prophets before them, were people that 'got it' - 'it' being the understanding of true glory and greatness of God - a glory and greatness that cannot even accept a single name (whether that be God, YHWH, Jehovah, Allah, or others). He is too great! These ideas, put forth by scholars like yourself, are so helpful in understanding the truth in many ways behind God's word and His will for us, without the interjection or contamination of religious doctrine or mistranslation. 2.) A bit of a gear-change here, but I'm curious if you're familiar with George Washington's (perhaps alleged), 'Vision at Valley Forge'? I won't copy and paste the entirety of it here, but the section I will include below, seems to have the same line of interpretation as you're positing here as it relates to Daniel. “I found myself once more gazing upon the mysterious visitor, who, in the same voice I had heard before, said, "Son of the Republic, what you have seen is thus interpreted: Three great perils will come upon the Republic. The most fearful is the third, but in this greatest conflict the whole world united shall not prevail against her. Let every child of the Republic learn to live for his God, his land and the Union." With these words the vision vanished, and I started from my seat and felt that I had seen a vision wherein had been shown to me the birth, progress, and destiny of the United States.” Now, I openly admit that I have NOT done any form of academic review on validity or anything of the such, as it relates to Washington's vision, apart from perhaps a lazy undergraduate-level fact check. So, if it's all a bunch of BS, I am prepared to accept that! Anyways, from what I've been able to find thus far, I haven't found anything that discredits its validity. However, though, I have been researching Washington's own beliefs, which of course can be historically corroborated through things such as his personal writings, letters, etc., to which I've come to learn that Washington was incredibly devout in his faith. Which was largely unknown at that time of his life, let alone today. From what I've gathered, it was only the people closest to Washington's life who saw this level of spiritual devotion. He's described to have been found regularly in private, intense prayer; seeking of solitude for prayer in some of the most tumultuous times of his life/experience, and yet was someone that didn't attend Church or even appear to be any more or less religious than the lay of that time. **update - I have found some criticisms of the historical validity of Washington having said this, but have confirmed that the earliest known publication of it was in 1861 - others date back to the early 1850's. 3.) This point could be 2.5, but I'll just go ahead and make it point three. Abraham Lincoln, similar to Washington in the sense of having a closeted, but deeply personal and intense relationship with God - or longing for such - also had a vision, or prophecy as some consider. He states: "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war." These words are said to have been found in a letter written by Lincoln to Colonel William F. Elkins, in November 1864 - before the end of the Civil War. Furthermore, in an earlier part of Washington's vision, he describes the emergence of 'dark clouds' originating from the African continent that will lead to brother taking up arms against another, but that it will come to an end - or something to that effect. Maybe a coincidence, maybe myth, maybe history, or maybe the will of God - only God knows! Though nevertheless, the fact that such writings, words, or sentiments, concerning the ultimate destiny of United States - regardless of who authored them - which existed in an age where America was still yet to become the superpower of world, predicted that it would in fact be a superpower and suffer an unfortunate collapse before its redemption, is an interesting thing to think about or investigate. Now, if you overlay the status of America, the world at large, the above Presidential prophecies (so to speak), and the writings of the Bible, with particular emphasis on apocalyptic prophecy within both the Old and New Testaments, you have a seriously intriguing thought experiment! Well, for me anyways:) lol Sincerely, a man from Missouri, living in a village in Scotland! All the best to you, Dr Tabor, and may God bless you for the word YOU are doing and have done for His Kingdom! Amen!

[@Busabuck100]

Decades of church and Bible studies and never heard the real meaning of The Son of Man. Thanks.

[@Yce_Take]

"the real meaning of The Son of Man" aka a steaming pile of hogwash.

[@Talmidiym8463]

Good afternoon sir….. you are absolutely correct. The one coming on the clouds is Yahuah( Yahweh). And just as Paul revealed to us in 1 Corinthians 12:3’ “Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Yahusha accursed, and no one can say that Yahusha is Yahuah except by the Holy Spirit.” 😇 be blessed Yahuah(Yahweh) was never the Father. It was the Son the entire time in the OT. Who created everything?… the Son. Read scripture between God and Job. Thats wasnt the Father… that was the Son. Thus why Christ when He was manifest in flesh told us that “no one has heard the Father nor ever seen His form or image.” Remember Colossians 1:13-20.

[@wilderness4071]

Yes no one has heard the father nor ever seen his form because the father is the universe itself, the totality of existence. That is not something a human can see only feel. The coming of the clouds is a reference to Christ consciousness or 5D consciousness. When Jesus says "he that hath seen me hath seen the Father" he means God consciousness expressed in form, awareness in service of love instead of awareness in service of fear, or Adam before the fall.

[@SeekingTheTruth14er]

Just look at John 1, says it all. We can use this as an opportunity for The HolySpirit in us to change hearts and minds here. The only way to understand Spiritual Truth. Jesus talk with nicodemus in John.

[@christophernichols1379]

Yahweh, is the beast of Revelation.

[@SeekingTheTruth14er]

@@christophernichols1379 wow, really! Tell me more. I bet you’ve never got that response from such a shocking and unsubstantiated claim. You have to be a troll or have some fundamental flaws in persuasion. Just yell out whatever? Most people don’t ever take a deeper level to find out the context or what they may be missing and trust in their limited understanding. Never listening to Our Heavenly Father on how you are made to understand things that are of a spiritual nature much less those of the flesh. If you are ever serious, I will be happy to share how I found answers to many questions I couldn’t understand. Not to argue, just for more edification in your search, if you so choose. Never rest on your own understanding, I don’t. Blessings🙏

[@christophernichols1379]

@@SeekingTheTruth14er Hosea 13:7-, Revelation 13:2-, Daniel 7:4-6

[@ChristianCarrizales]

Very good analysis. It wasn’t until I read the Hebrew Bible in its context and without a filter that I realized that Daniel 7 isn’t talking about a Messianic figure at all. It’s very clearly referring to the people of Israel as a corporate entity. A “human being” as opposed to the empires before that are ravenous beasts.

[@ConsideringPhlebas]

There is no explicit identification of the Daniel 7 'one like a son of man' with the nation of Israel or the people of God, unlike the beasts with earthly kingdoms. Even historical-critical ("contextual") scholarship nowadays generally acknowledges that the 'one like a son of man' in Daniel is an angelic or heavenly being. This is supported by language used in the text to describe angels. Compare for example, Daniel 7:13: "behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like a son of man" with the following: Daniel 8:15: "behold, there stood before me one having the appearance of a man." (i.e., Gabriel) Daniel 10:16: "behold, one in the likeness of the children of man touched my lips." Daniel 10:18: "one having the appearance of a man touched me and strengthened me." In Ezekiel's vision, even God Himself is described in much the same way, Ezekiel 1:26: "upon the likeness of the throne was a likeness as the appearance of a man"

[@adedaporh]

​@@ConsideringPhlebas "There is no explicit identification of... son of man... with the people of God." Are you serious? When Daniel asks for the meaning of the vision from "... one of those who stood there," he was told that the beasts represents 4 evil kingdoms and the people of God "shall receive the kingdom and possess the kingdom forever, forever and ever." Since we only have 2 classes of beings on the visions: the beasts and one like a son of man, it is clear that the interpreter identifies this later with the people of God. Furthermore, in verse 27a, the interpreter reiterates that the people of God will possess the kingdom forever but in 27b he switches to the singular pronoun to pretty much say the same thing and thus providing a callback to the identification of the people of God to the "one like a son of man" figure.

[@MarkConwayTheBurgerKing]

When you read Revelation (from Jesus). Chapters 1 and 22, Jesus in the vision to John, given by the angel. It is clear that Jesus in His worlds quantifies, He(Jesus), will be returning in the clouds of heaven.. Jesus, speaks in the Gospels. Seeing yet not seeing. Hearing yet not hearing, and not understanding. John 14:1-3 Jesus, Son of God and son of man. Tells of His Return. If you read the New Testament in its entirety, you will get this in it's correct perspective. Taking a text here and there and dissecting the scriptures, creates incorrect assumptions and misinterpretation Shalom

[@aspektx]

It would be nice if Tabor could include some recent book titles that cover the subject he is covering.

[@angielee2076]

I love listening to you. Don't ever change. It's like after watching some other content, you provide for me a sane and reasonable space to learn what's developing into a wild ride for some critically important answers. Thank you.

[@jkr6208]

Mathew 24:11 "And many false Prophets will arise and will deceive many. ... Many false prophets will come and fool a lot of people. ... And many false prophets shall rise, and ..:"

[@thli8472]

Is there an animated version of the book of Daniel?

[@jamesdaniel1376]

First, what qualifications do you have to be an expert on biblical interpretation? Second, do any scholars who are recognized as experts agree with your claim? Finally, I ask these questions because Jesus actually applies this text from Daniel 7:14 to himself at his trial before the High Priest who recognizes that Jesus, by making this assertion, is pronouncing himself to be equal to YHWH and calls for a judgment of blasphemy against Jesus based on these very words. The elders agreed and remanded him over for a hearing with the full Sanhedrin the next morning before sending him to Pilate on the trumped up charge of insurrection.

[@VitalLesson]

You confuse "the son of man" -- "ben adam" with the "inheriting son of mankind" -- "bar enosh". They are NOT the same. The first is a human and the 2nd is our Messiah. Your references show your misunderstanding in Hebrew. Unfortunately, both are translated as the same "son of man." As Yeshua confirmed in Mark 13:26, our Messiah is Daniel's "inheriting son of mankind" - "bar enosh".

[@roxieearly9484]

Jesus is the Outstretched Arm of YHUH ,YaHUaH,The Father, His arm of salvation.

[@chericandream]

CommonWeath -- Hebrew= CrossedOver sWORD Spirit and Truth -- 7th day sAbbAth's Seal -- Covenant IN Loyalty The Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah= Spirit= AbbA Creator Father. Yahu'Sha Hebrew Anointed SonShip= sWORD and Head(ROCK) to body(stones) of congregation covenant loyal (be)living IN earth, that adhere TO His voice: (Yashra'Al) ...The Most High Ahb Y6ahu'Ah sovereign saves. Emet ❤️ Love you Ahb Yahu'Ah sovereign of my breath, soul, and the blood IN my veins (DNA). (Psalm 90:12-17) So teach us TO number our days, That we (may) apply our hearts unTO wisdom. Return, Oh Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah sovereign, how long? And let it repent thee concerning thy servants. Oh satisfy us (early) with thy mercy; That we (may) rejoice and be glad all our days. And counting: ...1st day/night season of the WorkWeek, ...2nd day/night season of the WorkWeek, ...3rd day/night season of the WorkWeek ...4th day/night season of the WorkWeek, ...5th day/night season of the WorkWeek, ...6th day/night season of the WorkWeek (double up): ...for the morrow’s morning IS the Seventh day/night sAbbAth's season. Emet ❤️ What was Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob considered before the 12 tribes were born? ...And before Yahu'Sha the anointed Hebrew Messiah, rather than the Roman religion's man-made diety with the Greek name that has no power and authority IN the Kingdom's throne. ...Go to (Genesis Chapters 15-17) and (Hebrews Chapter 11) to understand the Covenant Loyalty and 'Saving Will' Testimony of the Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah sovereign ❤️ ...They were all faithful, obedient, and walked with the Most High Sovereign IN UpRightNess, Kingdom MindSet Justice, and were SetApart from embedded pagan world religious conditioning and dogma. Tsion ❤️ Praise and thanks to the Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah for His 'Saving Will' Testimony IN His anointed Hebrew Son Yahu'Sha Messiah. Prayers, blessings, and peace (restoration) of the ❤️, for those that adhere TO His voice, covenant, and commandments.

[@chapmaned24]

cover you mouth before you sneeze!

[@jessebasham1450]

My name is Jesse

[@AnaPeranovic-p2b]

Greetings! All i can say is: you r rightly say, spoke The Word of Lord Kadesh. Althougt people, knowing that many had same vision, tries to stop that from be. Well, they shall all fall. For now, that s all. Praise Glory Honours Dominions Might Blessings and all Thanks givings, rightfully to Our Lord ELOHIM AMEN I AMIN Who is FOREVER AND HOLLY, to judge or have mercy by His Hollyness! Amen i Amin ALELUYAH HALELUYAH FOREWER AND ALWAYS

[@Rupunzelsawake]

I think I'm going to enjoy this Lost in Translation series! It's good to take off the Christian interpretative glasses and take an honest look at what the text actually says from someone who actually knows the languages.

[@alexluthiger731]

In John 16 Jesus is talking from the Justice that he is going to the heavenly Father and that we wouldn't see him anymore. What a wonderful Justice that let us see only with a humble heart. 🍷😘

[@dmm6341]

One mortal thinks he's privy to what all other mortals cannot see....hmmm The Kingdom of God is only for one?

[@clarencehammer3556]

I think what makes people think it refers to Jesus is because it is presented as “THE Son of Man” as if there can be only one such individual and that must be Jesus. The term “Son of Man” always confused me.

[@harveywabbit9541]

Son of Man = Sun of Earth. Son of God = Sun of El/Jupiter (Aries at spring equinox) aka Mesiah/Messiah.

[@TheArmchairPriest]

@@harveywabbit9541this is all baseless word play tbh

[@TheArmchairPriest]

@@harveywabbit9541but i get and agree with the point

[@TheArmchairPriest]

There are many sons of man- seven major ones to be clear. Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus the Lord himself, and Michael the great prince

[@harveywabbit9541]

@@TheArmchairPriest ...and all are fictional characters.

[@barnsweb52]

Everyone who wants to understand Daniel needs to get a copy of the Soncino series that includes Daniel. It's the best resource I've found to date to ensure you have a historical perspective of fulfillment - it's remarkable. Did James ever read it?????

[@scripturalcontexts]

I do agree with Dr Tabor that in its original context Daniel 7 refers to the people of God and not to a specific Messianic figure. However where I would disagree with Dr Tabor is that this idea that Jesus as the son of man in the synoptic Gospels is somehow a Christian innovation or a concept that may have been lost in translation. We can see in other Second Temple Jewish literature apart from Daniel that a son of man tradition existed, such as in the Enochic Book of Parables (ca. First century BCE - 1st century CE) and in 4th Ezra (late 1st- early 2nd century CE) that understood the son of man to be a Messianic end times figure. 1 Enoch (although in a rather befuddling way which contradicts itself by seeming to imply that the son of man is an eternal being and yet later is actually Enoch) conceives the son of man not only as being a symbol of the righteous as in Daniel 7 but also as a Messianic figure who was named before the creation of the world and hidden in the presence of God. He is portrayed as a being who possesses the qualities of the idealistic Davidic king described in Isaiah 11 and is clearly an exalted end times judge much like Melchizedek in the Melchizedek Scroll found at Qumran. It is this portrayal of the son of man which some scholars such as George Nickelsburg believe influenced the Synoptic tradition of the son of man as an eschatological judge. 4th Ezra also portrays the son of man as a Messianic figure who flies around in the air much like Superman and defeats the enemies of Israel. So while Daniel 7 portrays the one like a son of man as a symbol of the righteous, we should not ignore the fact that other son of man traditions existed in Second Temple Judaism which saw the one like a son of man as an individual Messianic eschatological figure that also served as a symbol of the righteous who vindicates the righteous and punishes the wicked, and it may be these traditions which influenced the early Christian conception of Jesus as the son of man figure. IIRC, Darrell Bock and some other scholars have argued that the Gospel of Matthew's portrayal of Jesus as the one like a son of man was heavily influenced by the Enochic material. Also as an interesting unrelated aside, I find that James' remarks to the Jewish leaders in the tradition Dr. Tabor cited to be very reminiscent of jesus' statement in the olivet discourse that when the disciples would see all of the signs mentioned that they would know that he or it was near, at the very gates. I also find it interesting that James's statement to the Jewish leaders seems to be a purposeful echo of James 5:9 where the author speaks of the judge (Jesus? God?) standing at the door while referring to the imminence of the parousia.

[@harveywabbit9541]

Son of Man has alway been the Sun of Earth. In the beginning, there was Heaven (Eve) and Earth (Adam) united as one. They are separated at Sun Rise and are reunited at Sun Down. In Egypt, they were Heaven (Nut) and Earth (Geb). They are separated by Air (Shu) at Sun Rise. Without Shu, we would be in eternal darkness.

[@stephenballard-f9h]

What you say is what I had read also. Daniel 7:11 and Revelation 18:8 wish to burn the fourth beast with fire. Daniel's fourth beast having been later reinterpreted to apply to Rome (Babylon). Revelation 1:7 "son of man" seems to suggest Daniel 7:13 was also later reinterpreted to apply to Jesus. Gill said the Jesus of Rev 1:7 is coming to judge the nations (Rome), not save them. This would have been the original Jerusalem church understanding of Jesus, prior to Paul extending the time to allow for the fullness of the Gentiles to come in, so that they could be saved from the wrath to come. Compare how Luke's Pauline Jesus must correct the pillars of the Jerusalem who wish to burn the Samaritans with fire (Luke 9:54-55). The story is not historical but a parable for what James and John wished to do to Rome (cf. Rev 11:4-5).

[@harveywabbit9541]

@@stephenballard-f9h The fourth beast was the last quarter of the year, was represented by Aquarius and extended to the spring equinox - the end of the year. This last was a very savage beast, for he trod down the earth, and brake it in pieces, i.e., the year ended with him. He spake against, or opposite to, the Most High (Aries in his zenith), and the saints (summer constellations) were given into his hand "until a time and times and the dividing of time," i.e., until spring, when Daniel's countenance was changed (vs. 28). Though the number ten belongs to God, and the number nine to men (Philo. Judaeus., vol. ii, p. 176), the Man-lion was often figured with but six, to denote the six months intervening between Aquarius and Leo, - see King's Gnostics, p. 200.

[@stephenballard-f9h]

Like The Book of Enoch, Daniel was mainly an apocalyptic text whose purpose was to give hope and reveal to the faithful Jews what would happen in the latter days. There was quite a bit of this literature and it culminated in the Book of Revelation and Second Esdras in the latter half of the first century. The Dead Sea Scrolls belonged to this same genre of literature. Since we have so much of this literature we can be reasonably confident in its purpose and interpretation, and it certainly had nothing to do with the "sign of Aquarius" as you suggest. That interpretation would have been meaningless and hopeless to authors like Daniel who wanted to give the Jewish people hope of deliverance from the Greek Seleucid and Roman empires of that time. See for example Luke 24:21 "But we had hoped that he was the one to redeem Israel [from bondage to Rome]." It was this same inter-testament literature like Daniel and Second Maccabees that gave rise to the hope in the resurrection that plays so prominent a role in the New Testament. If people suffered and died like Jesus, at least they could hope that God would raise them from the dead. And not just them, but also their children and other loved ones. Child mortality was extremely high at that time. Unfortunately that hope could be taken advantage of by people who were not ethical, or not rational - or both!

[@harveywabbit9541]

@@stephenballard-f9h The four sons of Reuben (Aquarius) are also the four seasons of the year. One of his sons was Enoch. The writer is using the Zodiac pegged to the age of the Bull. The four seasons were Aquarius, Taurus, Leo, and the Eagle (Scorpio). The "death of Moses (winter solstice in Aquarius) marked the precession of the equinoxes from the Bull to the Ram. The winter solstice moved to Capricorn where we find Zebulun and his ship (Argo navis).

[@tsemayekekema2918]

Something a bit pedantic, I'll disagree and propose that the Great Sea isn't specifically the Mediterranean - but the MYTHICAL Universal Sea surrounding all continents in pre-Hellenistic Near Eastern thought

[@robsellars9338]

How about the cosmic sea as we are talking about the Jewish Merkabah chariot in this vision. Ideally this vision should be compared to Ezekiels vision of the same thing

[@tsemayekekema2918]

@@robsellars9338 I was referring to the Cosmic sea

[@BobbyHill26]

I don’t know about at the turn of the era, but the Greeks also believed that the land was surrounded by water. They thought it was a huge river, if I remember correctly, but close enough

[@tsemayekekema2918]

@@BobbyHill26 yh, you're partially right. However, the Hellenistic discovery of the sphericality of the planet earth since as far back as Socrates/Pythagoras complicates the Hellenistic picture. Have you ever heard of the concept of Antipode?

[@BobbyHill26]

@@tsemayekekema2918 I’m familiar, but best I remember, they didn’t believe there was land on the other side, or were at least doubtful. Early Christians at the very least didn’t believe in a populated antipodal landmass because that would have required them to also have a Jesus for salvation. And Dante had the mountain of purgatory being antipodal to Jerusalem, caused by the impact of Lucifer being cast out of heaven if I remember correctly. I don’t know if Dante thought that was actually the case, but it does show that they didn’t think there was anything there but a lot of water. A great, all encompassing mass of water really worked for European ideas all the way until Columbus stumbled across the Americas and even lots of Christians today still think of the oceans as primordial. I don’t really know enough of ancient Hebrew cosmology, but did they have the idea that there was a surrounding body of water? Or was it just that you would reach the firmament which was holding back the primordial water while still on dry land. I’ve really not done any reading on the subject, but I can’t recall any indication of a surrounding body of water within the firmament.

[@neohermitist]

Not sure if that is the preterist understanding, but I can see what you told us would apply to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD.

[@telmeeeh]

With all due respect to Mr. Tabor... The bible specified that it is the Lord Jesus Christ who will return (a.k.a. "The Day of the Lord") to end man's rule, judge the nations/people (Matthew 25:31-46; Revelation 1:10-18), and become King of Israel and the world (Zechariah 14 :9). Note that He admitted to Pilate that He is "King of the Jews" (Matt. 27:11, 42; John 18:37) and Pilate himself believed it (John 19:19). There are so many verses supporting the return of Jesus the Messiah, but I'll just cite some. When Jesus was resurrected, just before His ascension, the disciples asked Him if He is going to restore the kingdom to Israel. He said to them, "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by His own authority..." Then the disciples looked up into the sky as Jesus was going, suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them saying, “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same JESUS, who has been taken from you into heaven, WILL COME BACK in the SAME WAY you have seen him go into heaven” (Acts 1:10-11). According to Hebrews 9:28, "so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and He will appear a SECOND TIME, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him." During Jesus Christ's ministry, He told His disciples about the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem, His return and the end of age. As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the SIGN OF YOUR COMING and of the end of the age?" Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Messiah,' and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains. Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come... For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now-and never to be equaled again. If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Messiah!' or, 'There he is!' do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you ahead of time. So if anyone tells you, 'There he is, out in the wilderness,' do not go out; or, 'Here he is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather. Immediately after the distress of those days 'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.' Then will appear the sign of the SON OF MAN in the sky. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory (Matthew 24:3-14, 21-30). He was the one referred to by Prophet John the Beloved in Revelations 1:7, "Look, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even THOSE WHO PIERCED HIM; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of Him." Jesus said, "Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what He has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the end... I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches (Revelation 22:12, 16)... In the earlier chapter, He said, "Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was DEAD, and behold I am alive for ever and ever (Revelation 1:17-18). Prophet John the Beloved wrote, "He who testifies to these things says, 'Yes, I am coming soon.' Amen. Come, Lord Jesus" (Revelation 22:20). Finally, looking at Jerusalem, Jesus said, "Look, your house is left to you desolate. For I tell you, you will NOT SEE ME AGAIN until you say, 'Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord" (Matthew 23:38-39). On that day, His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives (Zechariah 14:4) to destroy Jerusalem's enemies. The Book of Revelation supports this. Here, He was the one described as the "rider on the white horse" who is being followed by the armies of heaven (19:14). With justice He judges and makes war (19:11). Out of His mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down nations and He will rule them with an iron scepter (19:15; Psalm 2:9). He is called "Faithful and True" (19:11), His name is "Word of God" (19:13; John 1:1), and "King of Kings and Lord of Lords (19:16), and whom the beast and the kings of the earth will make war against (19:19) but will suffer defeat in a "no contest" fashion (19:20-21). Some people may not acknowledge the deity of Jesus Christ but His day that I mentioned above will come when every knee will bow to Him, those in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue will say that Jesus Christ is "Lord" to the glory of God the Father (Philippians 2:10-11).

[@Jimbo-lk6kk]

Why would a god of everything need a book to tell a story that people fight over? U don't think his law is already written on ur heart? The story is you ! Here and now. Were is the kingdom of heaven?

[@SOMEOLDFRUIT]

I don't know man. YAH says every man is a lier. YAHUAH ELOHIM is Father of Yahusha Ha'mashiach. Brethren, pray for discernment! 💪🕯📜🌾

[@nubtube7313]

TBH I’m not a fan of this series like I am of the ones preceding it, but I couldn’t resist the content here. Dr. Tabor, I honestly believe it’s your lack of faith that causes you to so often misread scripture. It’s easy to understand the connections you make considering your view of Jesus is not unlike that of a 1st century David Koresh, Paul just imagined he saw God, and Antiochus is proof the end never happened. You believe there is no relationship between Jesus as the son of man, and Daniel 7 based on your interpretation of who is meant to receive the kingdom? To start it might help if you consider this another Donkey counting exercise. The different accounts of Jesus entering Jerusalem don’t actually conflict with each other, and therefore could coexist in truth. If this were the only difference between the synoptic Gospels, you wouldn’t be able to tell the Gospel was corrupted eventhcugh it differ’s from the other two. Similarly there is no conflict between the meaning in Daniel 7 and the story of Jesus. The two stories are compatible and can coexist in truth. So Daniel 7:13-14 is pretty clear, no arguments there right? Your problem seems to start with the interpretation. Read each word in verses 17 and 18 carefully. It starts by mentioning kings. Kings normally have people in their kingdoms right?… It then mentions holy people of the Most High, which should be understood as the holy people of the Most High king. Now read verse 22, and then skip ahead to read 24 and 25 as they expand on it. Who is being oppressed? The people of the Most High king are being oppressed. In order to follow its meaning, it is essential to recognize the Most High himself is not being oppressed. We know Jesus has risen, so it makes sense that he wouldn’t be there to be oppressed, but it’s understandable that you don’t get this little detail if you don’t believe he has risen in the first place. According to Daniel 7, the Most High King’s people will be delivered into the hands of some evil ruler. The evil ruler will speak against the Most High King, and oppress his people until the ancient of days pronounces judgement in favour of those being oppressed. Notice the emphasis is on the oppressed! This is not only 100% compatible with the Jesus story, it carries the exact same meaning. Verse 27 is exactly what Jesus taught and promised, and it ends claiming the kingdom of the Most High King will be an everlasting kingdom.

[@AhmarClark]

This man is wrong! Use your discernment here. Even if you don't understand don't substitute another man's understanding.

[@Robert-jp4oi]

What part is he wrong about

[@uncuttfunk]

What you’re telling people not to do is exactly what you’re doing …believing what you’ve been programmed to believe. Religion is regarded by the common as true, by the wise as false, & by rulers as useful - Seneca the Younger 65AD

[@AhmarClark]

@@uncuttfunk said nothing about religion

[@truliecole5107]

It's all a letter of a plan of past, present and future plan that was a lot of both but yet divided John 3:17

[@joshuatree3106]

He is completely wrong? I would seek THE LORD about this if you are truly humble I want to know the truth. son of man in the bible is not referring to JESUS ALMIGHTY LORD. This brother might not be correct that son of man is collectively the saints of GOD ( if I understand him correctly) but when they say son of man in the Word of GOD is not who people think it is. It's very clear in the Word. People must be willing to let go of the teachings they have been taught and seek FATHER with a humble heart and HE will reveal The Truth to us. It's all up to us :) GOD bless and love you

[@brotherfausto6239]

Interesenting, cause Jesus himself said of himself and referring to himself as the "Son of Man"

[@wiserthanserpents3862]

The 2nd resurrection occurs before the return of Messiah and there will no way the unsaved can deny His coming 2 Baruch

[@JayWest14]

Thank you Dr. Tabor for all your knowledge and understanding in these texts. I know you get a lot of negative feedback from brainwashed believers but you have just as many supporters of your work. Thank you!!

[@darrylcloud7111]

I was explaining the same thing a few weeks ago, just like you have done, while still acknowledging that Daniel 7 infers that the Saints of the Most High will be represented by a human being. Jesus assumed that he was this human representative of the Saints of the Most High, but he could have been mistaken, as evident by lamenting: "Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will he even find faith on the Earth?" On first glance, this prediction seems to support the idea that Jesus is the Son of Man, who will return to vindicate the Saints of the Most High, but that detracts from the true interpretation of Daniel's vision, which credits the Saints of the most High with establishing God's Kingdom on Earth, as though their human representative has no more significance than them. So, this man, who will hardly find faith on the Earth, must be Elijah, who will return to restore all things, as predicted by Jesus and Malachi 4. But why did Jesus regard himself as this man who would ascend to God's right-hand to represent the Saints of the Most High? Because during the disobedient phase of his 3-year ministry, he forgot that Elijah must restore all things. If you don't believe that Yeshua was disobedient, then you don't trust Hebrews 5:8, which confirms that God always protects his obedient children from their enemies until they learn obedience by the things which they suffer. So, apparently, Yeshua rebelled against the true meaning of Daniel 7, before God's harsh discipline perfected him. So, why perpetuate the same rebellious spirit, by denying the truth that Elijah will return to represent the Saints of the Most High? And when he does, he will hardly find anyone to believe him, because Christians have rejected the truth, that Yeshua wasn't good, or God, like he claimed, in Mark 10:18. Do you think Jesus, the greatest truth-teller of all time, needs Christians to correct his misunderstanding about not being God? No, Christians need to believe in Jesus to inherit eternal life. And, believing in Jesus requires believing what he said, rather than their religious traditions, which make Jesus' commands of no effect. Otherwise, they are no better than the Scribes and Pharisees, who made Moses' Laws of no effect, with their religious traditions.

[@johnrfann5912]

You missed it, Mr. Tabor. This is not for you to do.

[@Phillip-n3g]

I beg of thee to respond. I read that words over time changed the meaning .thus son of man in Daniel's time meant something different during the time of Jesus..please someone respond??

[@byronumphress3805]

70x40 EZEKIEL WAS CALLED SON OF MAN ALSO, HE WAS KNOWN TO EAT A SCROLL, THEN IN REVELATION YOU HAVE THE LITTLE BOOK THAT GETS EATEN, SCHOLARS SAY THAT JOHN EATS THE LITTLE BOOK, HOWEVER I BELIEVE IT IS THE SON OF MAN , NOT EMMANUEL JESUS, BUT THE HOLY SPIRT, SHALOM

[@jonnyblaze2692]

​@@byronumphress3805ezekiel's dream there was depicting something that was happening in current times for him. The scroll taste sweet like honey. The scroll is a listing of all the sins of the Jewish people.

[@thebrand5184]

You can easily search it, bro.

[@LisaSchulanerFineArt]

It is very possible and even likely that the meanings have changed. These scriptures were written over two thousand years ago by people from a culture long changed over time. How can anyone say that a word meant exactly what we to day think it means? The problem is that people read these ancient text from today's culture and world views and do not know or even consider what the original writer was trying to say in their ancient perspective.

[@byronomboy]

​@@LisaSchulanerFineArtExactly. Unless Jesus himself wrote the text in a clear and comprehensive manner that interpretation is no longer required. Then we won't have an issue. But alas, the reality is different.

[@oliviahodges5161]

The mystery of God is the voice of God - The Holy Bible

[@alexluthiger731]

The mystery of the Spirit of God is in its Word which can be found as well in books that found no entry into the wonderful book collection of the holy Bible. The holy Spirit of God blows whereever it pleases him.

[@ryanrevland4333]

The striking thing is that whenever son of man is used in the Hebrew Bible its usualy to depict a weak human as opposed to a strong god. Like God saying "listen here puny human".

[@robsellars9338]

Yes this is correct and so it's unusual - as you say! Its precisely because it's unusual that we need to look deeper into its meaning using QBLH. One of the rules to spotting a section of QBLH in the Hebrew text is whenever a contradiction in the text occurs. Here we have a word that should not be there. How can a man be flying around the cosmos in the Merkabah chariot? So this description is an allegory for something else. Well spotted!

[@shimshonbendan8730]

Not true, not true at all. In fact, what you said is a total lie. Daniel 7:14 mentions the Son of Man. This is the only place in the Bible where "Bar Enesh" is used. Bar Enesh is an Aramaic term. If man were speaking Hebrew and suddenly inserted an Aramaic term, the listener would realize that the phrase "son of man" was not an idiom, but something quite different, suggesting a title. Daniel definitely was no saying that Bar Enesh is a weak human being. You have the voice of a lying spirit and I believe you are here to mislead people.

[@ryanrevland4333]

@@shimshonbendan8730 You’ve misunderstood. I didn't say Daniel was using “Son of Man” to convey a weak human being. I'm talking about its usage in other books. Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that He would lie, Nor a son of man, that He would change His mind Job 25:6 How much less man, that maggot, And a son of man, that worm! Isaiah 51:12 I Myself, am He who comforts you. Who are you that you are afraid of mortal man, And of a son of man who is made like grass

[@billyream7796]

I have long held that Christ not only represents a divine entity but also the maturation of the human collective conscience. In a sense, Christ is "us." This seems to jive well with "I and the Father are one." Hence, in both the collective and individual aspects, the "Son of Man" comes to roost with its Creator.

[@davashorb6116]

Thanks for putting this and other scripture in its proper context.

[@sweetb4thesee]

We all see him in the clouds right before we die

[@sultanalismaili528]

some arabic researchers refer to the son of man is AlMahdi i agree to that but i think its not only him but some other elected ones from other faiths as you have pointed out. Lets the light within shines.

[@playlist1697]

Yeah James missed this one.. he sounds like Tovia Singer

[@atarahchomah1463]

BIG TIME!!!!! if one reads the following verse in Mark14:63, the High Priest tore his clothes and cried Blasphemy! (v 64). It is very clear when Yeshua said to the High Priest that he would see The Son of Man in the clouds, Yeshua was claiming to be G-D. There is a book called ' The Two Powers in Heaven' by Alan Siegel, a non believing Jew. Mr. Siegel said the Ancient Israelites were very familiar with the Two Powers in Heaven concept, Dr Michael Heiser does a nice job covering this as well. this is disappointing. shouldn't surprise me.... Sign of the Times....

[@byronumphress3805]

THE HOLY TRINITY ! SHALOM

[@Allogenes-jd8uq]

In the Gospel of Thomas Jesus does not refer to Himself as the Son of Man. Do you see any significance is this? Why were two separate sayings collections (Q and Thomas) circulating in ancient times?

[@yahir2484]

Exactly. I’m here. I didn’t come in the clouds. But I’m like a cloud cause I’m not recognized.

[@ILLevy77]

You can’t have a kingdom without a king; the Son of Man/the Lamb …that men of every language might serve him - read Daniel 7:13,14; Revelation 6:14-17, Revelation 7:9-12 😮

[@doncamp1150]

Prophecy is really intended for those who will experience the fulfillment. Until than we can make educated guesses, but we ought always to expect that we will likely not have it just right. In this case the prophecy is not fulfilled in the time of Antiochus. So, we look for a yet future fulfillment. We also expect symbolism to be one way the prophecy is fulfilled. That is obvious with the beasts. But it is also the case with the sea. It is not the Mediterranean; it is symbolically the mass of humanity - as it is in many other places. The saints are "collectively" called the "son of man?" What exactly indicates that we should understand the noun as collective? And significantly, the NT verses Dr. Tabor uses to support his rather novel interpretation do not support the idea that the saints are the "one" coming the clouds of heaven. It is true that connecting Jesus returning as you have seen him leave (in the clouds in Acts 1) is not correct. Daniel means the cloud to be the host of heaven, not actual clouds. It is better described in Revelation where Daniel is definitely in view: "with" ( _meta_ ) the clouds of heaven (See Rev. 1:7). Dr. Tabor presents a convoluted interpretation of the NT references to Daniel 7. A straightforward interpretation leaves us with a NT confirmation, including Jesus himself, of what has been the historic interpretation of Jesus as the son of man in Daniel.

[@atmanbrahman1872]

Your interpretation is very tenuous and specious.

[@jons2447]

Hello, Mr. Tabor; Well, you usually do well but you overlooked a few things in Daniel 7. There is clear evidence that the True God is often referred to as a plural in the original languages. So it does not necessarily mean a group of 'gods' since there is only ONE "true God".-John 17:3. A number of the verses mention a kingdom that is "everlasting". Absolutely *NO* 'human' government ('kingdom') is 'everlasting', as described in Scripture. So * EVERY* reference is such a kingdom must mean the Kingdom of God. Also, there is only the Christ who is 'appointed' as King, the 144,000 (Revelation 14:3-4) are called 'adopted' in Romans 8-9. Regarding the group you referred to, Revelation says there are 144,000 that inherit the kingdom as co-kings & co-priests with the Lamb of God, which refers to the one sacrificed to God, I.E., the Christ. See Daniel 7:23, which apparently, as you said, is about that group. That group is also called the 'chosen' (KJAV, 'elect'), the 'anointed', the 'bride', and Christ's 'brothers'. BTW, 'saints' actually means the 'holy ones of God'. Apparently, these Scriptures and many more are actually prophetic statements about God's Kingdom AND it's principle King, the Christ AND his 144,000 'brothers' who share in ruling God's Kingdom. See Revelation 11:15 , 14:3, 21:9. Keep up the good work! Have a GREAT day, Neighbor!

[@jimford1256]

Hello James, if you read this, I have a question. for your book on Genesis what translation where you using. Every Hebrew text or bible I find they all use the language after the called redaction. i.e. translating Elohim to God. I would really love to find a original text prior to the redaction. Thank you.

[@Qu_2_wil_lmjk]

A viewer asked Paul Wallis of the 5th Kind TV website that question and he recommended The New Jerusalem Bible and an interlinear bible, plus a good lexicon.

[@jonnyblaze2692]

Get a copy of Tanakh... Art Scroll is good. Yes one of the main problems most Christians have is that they don't understand that Elohim doesn't actually mean God

[@abcdef-kq2zg]

The kingdom of Jesus (church) began on the day of Pentecost. That is when the kingdom was given to Jesus and the saints. It remains the kingdom of Christ until He delivers it to the Father after death is destroyed, 1 Cor 15:23-28, 24. So in Daniel 7 it shows the first coming and the kingdom given to Jesus and the saints on Pentecost and then the 2nd coming and the judgment Rev 20:11-15. So the kingdom is given to Jesus and the saints on Pentecost and not after the 2nd coming.

[@sacredlux6099]

I say this in a respectful manner Dr, but your understanding, and the understanding of all Christians on who the Son of Man is, and the Kingdom that will not be destroyed, to which is going to be given to the saints of the Most High is off! First of all, it is written by one Greco-Roman Gospel writer that Jesus said the following; "My Kingdom is not of this world". That statement should tell anyone that the Greco-Roman Gospel writer is not writing about a physical Kingdom, but Spiritual Kingdom, to which again it is said by this Greco-Roman Gospel writer, "My Kingdom is not of this world". I would write more, because there is more to add, however this not the place to do so!❤

[@OpieApproved]

The Hebrews began persecuting Jesus because he claimed to be the son of man which the Jews knew meant the messiah. If you were correct then they would be wrong.

[@kevincrady2831]

Huh. This makes sense of the way Jesus seems to be talking about someone else when he refers to "the Son of Man."

[@byronumphress3805]

@2831 I RECEIVED A BIBLICAL MESSAGE 5/22/2020, STARTED NEW JOB AT DOING THE LORD’S WORK, SON OF MAN, FEEDING THE HUNGRY, SHALOM

[@byronumphress3805]

ALSO, REVELATION 2:17, I RECEIVED A WHITE STONE, IT JUST MYSTERIOUSLY APPEARED IN MY KJV BIBLE, SHALOM

[@byronumphress3805]

ALSO, I WAS DIPPING A PIECE OF BREAD INTO A BOWL OF OLIVE OIL, THEN MY HAND JUST WENT DOWN ON THE EDGE OF THE BOWL, THE OIL SPLASHED UPON MY FACE AND HAIR, I HAD KNOWN OF QUEEN ESTHERS FASTING, SO I RESEARCHED THE HEBREW TRADITION OF ANOINTING, SO I THEN WENT THREE DAYS NO FOOD OR WATER AND ANOINTING DAILY, AS I BELIEVE GOD ALMIGHTY ELOHIM, HAD A HAND IN THIS HAPPENING, SHALOM

[@lorikeffer6339]

Dr. Tabor, it seems logical to me that because Jesus kept His human body when He rose from the dead, that also means that He will be receiving the same kingdom that the rest of the saints od God receives.

[@IAMusic314]

This video is true, and can be proven. Many do not understand that the Son of Man is the Holy Spirit. "IAM" is the one who everyone has forgotten. This is why the Son of Man will be like the days of Noah. Generational mistakes has cause many to be distracted. This Son of Man is the only know who knows how to calculate the complex calculation to reveal the hidden name that is "IAM" only using the old testament. The mark is misinterpreted to a mark. But it speaks of the Book of Mark 13:32. My claims is bold, but i can prove all my words to pure accuracy. 😇🕊️

[@IAMusic314]

To everyone, with wisdom. When Jesus comes on his second coming. And he tells you who he is. He will tell you he is Jesus the Messiah. Will you believe him? If he says to you all that will be happening and shows you signs you all wish to see as evidence. Will you believe? Who are you waiting for? A warrior, a Savior? Or a builder? I assure you, if you do not discern the words Of Jesus, you will blaspheme against the Holy Spirit. I will not ask you to believe in my words. I am only reminding you of what is said. Matthew 24:5 "For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray." Read the book of Matthew 24 The Son of Man, will come in his name, that was hidden and forgotten from Exodus 3:14. When you realize that the Father, is A.Man, who saved Jesus, then glorified him, for him to take the place of sin, to teach men all things that is himself who is IAM, is who he will become. If you hold no forgiveness in your heart, by freewill you will be your own judge and separate from him. And you will see through the eyes of your own errors and commit the unforgivable sin. God, is love and forgiveness, but he is also strength and justice. For as the unforgivable sin is. He will hold no mercy. Because humanity has betrayed him in on the Cross. I will not warn anyone again. Make peace with your decisions.

[@StorytimeJesus]

Gate of Jesus. Doesn't 2 Kings 23 mention such a gate as a physical gate of Jerusalem? It is mentioned in the reformation of Josiah as the gate of Jesus the governor of the city. What an amazing anachronism. Did a Jerusalem that had kings and held very little land also need a governor? Why is such a governor never mentioned. There is one person named Jesus that might qualify as governor of Jerusalem, and that is Jesus Jehozadak. Interesting.

[@byronumphress3805]

I BELIEVE THE KEYS OF DEATH AND HADES CHANGE HANDS IN REVELATION TO THE SON OF MAN , THE HOLY SPIRT , SHALOM

[@angelmeyers1455]

What about where Josephus, the Jewish historian, records, and I'll paraphrase, that horses pulling chariots with riders was seen in the skies above Jerusalem and a great war was fought? Another historian also records this being seen in the skies..is it supposed to be taken literal or does it mean something else?

[@tyronecox5976]

Josephus Bar Matthias aka Titus Flavius Josephus,Bar meaning son Matthias means gift of God, Titus's Pen names, another one was Arrius Piso Arrius means immortal Pistis means faith A O Alpha and Omega,lol, Pontius Pilate Pontius meaning God of the sea Pilate meaning armed with a dart,classic,Titus said Jesus Lucifer was screaming out My God my God why have you forsaken me,read psalm 68/69 where he's got David in the mire,water entering his Soul,Bibles not a religious book, it's the book of life and prophecies.

[@tyronecox5976]

Septuagint LXX 70 the year Titus promised to return to slaughter all House of David Satan, Holy Roman Empire render to Caesar what is Caesars because he who creates owns, Titus was the Chrestus author of All biblical scripture, Archangel Micheal Clements who fathers the Chrestus Titus, Vespasian,why he's always in Roman Armour with a sword,they have everybody worshipping the Antichrist just like Enoch says they would.

[@kathy1154]

Chariot was the generic term for vehicle. People wrote what they saw. I saw a chariot (vehicle) in the sky, I saw an ephod (round disc) in the sky, I saw a vessel descend/ascend, and the much older versions... he rode across the heavens upon a "cloud" (that lights up)🤔 They are literally describing aerial transportation. The "horses" were retrofitted in by the scribes... much later... to godsplain, and make the event supernatural (mythological). HERE'S THE FAILED PROPHECY JESUS Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, THERE ARE SOME STANDING HERE, WHICH SHALL NOT TASTE DEATH, TILL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN COMING... 13:26 and then ye shall see the son of man coming in the CLOUDS ... Mark 14:62 and Jesus said, "I am: and YE SHALL SEE THE SON OF MAN SITTING ON THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER, AND COMING IN THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN" PAUL I Thesolonians 4:14 WE WHICH ARE ALIVE, AND REMAIN UNTO THE COMING OF THE LORD 4:17 then we the living, who remain over, shall, together with them, be caught away in the CLOUDS THE "RETURN" OF JESUS Revelations 1:7 Behold he cometh on CLOUDS 14:14 And I looked and behold a white CLOUD, and upon the CLOUD, one sat like unto the son of man. 2:18 These things saith the son of God 2:23 And I will KILL HER CHILDREN WITH DEATH 8:9 The third of the creatures which were in the sea, and have life, died 11:6 Power over the waters to turn them into blood, and smite the earth with all plagues (bioweapons) as often as they will. 16:3 Poured out his vial upon the sea, and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul in the sea died. WOW, WORSHIPPING GUYS THAT FLY AROUND ON "CLOUDS" MURDERING CHILDREN, FISH, AND SPREADING BIOWEAPONS. FLYING ON "CLOUDS" Definitely NOT a UFO cult 😉 Exodus 16:10 YHWH appeared in the CLOUD Numbers 11:25 YHWH came down in a CLOUD Leviticus 16:2I will appear in the CLOUD upon my mercy seat (even comes equipped with a captain's chair) 24:18 Moses went into the midst of the CLOUD and gat him up into the mount II Kings 2:1 YHWH would take Elijah up into heaven by a whirlwind 2:11 And there appeared a chariot of fire... and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven Psalms 104:3 Maketh the CLOUDS his chariot, who walketh upon the wings of the wind 68:17 The chariots of God are twenty thousand Ezekiel 8:3 The spirit lifted me up between heaven and earth and brought me... Jerusalem Psalms 18:10 He rode upon a cherub and he did fly, yea he did fly upon the wings of the wind Luke 9:34 There came a CLOUD and overshadowed them, and they feared as they entered into the CLOUD Acts 10:11 Saw heaven opened and a certain vessel descending unto him 10:16 And the vessel was received up again 11:5 A certain vessel descend... and it came unto me 11:10 Drawn up again into heaven Zechariah 5:1 And I turned and lifted up mine eyes, and behold a flying roll. 5:2 And he said unto me, 'what seest thou?' And I answered 'I see a flying roll: the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits 5:3 He said unto me 'this is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the earth' 5:5 "Lift up now thine eyes and see what is this that goeth forth?" 5:6 And I said "what is it?" "This is an ephah that goeth forth" He said moreover "this is there resemblance through all the earth" 5:7(ISV) Look, a sound lead cover was being lifted, and there was a woman seated inside. 5:9 Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and behold, there came out two women...and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven 5:10 Then said I to the angel that talked with me "whither do these bear the ephah?" 5:10 And he said unto me "to build an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set upon her own base." 6:1 And I turned and lifted up mine eyes and looked, and behold, there came (emerged) four chariots from between two mountains, and the mountains were mountains of brass Acts 1:9 He was taken up, and a CLOUD received him out of their sight 1:11 Jesus, which was taken up from you into heaven shall so come in the like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven Legend of the Jews 1&2 by Rabbi Ginsburg pg 521 "All the children of Israel were transported thither on CLOUDS, and after they had eaten of the sacrifice, they were carried back to Egypt in the same way

[@angelmeyers1455]

@@kathy1154 thanks for replying to my question I do appreciate the time effort you took.

[@angelmeyers1455]

@@tyronecox5976 Wow, it was just a question, but thanks for taking the time to reply.

[@denisereneec]

I thought I read somewhere that "son of man" was more recently put in caps "Son of Man" to support their theory that it is refers to Jesus....a title.

[@elkeism]

@ 7:12 "like a human being" : I'm under the impression that the term"son of man" means one who has a supernatural relationship with God; particularly where prophesy is concerned, as if they come along generationally, they don't even have to be Hebrew-like Balaam

[@barnsweb52]

Wow James, you've really oudone yourself. "One" like unto" is declared by your interpretative stills to be a whole host of people! Why do I bother to listen, if this is the best you have to offer?

[@y11971alex]

There are currently 49,000 or so views and over 1,000 comments, meaning 1 in every 50 viewers comments. These are impressive figures and show how engaging this topic is. Keep analysis coming over dogmata!

[@Brian-kp1om]

This vision about when Jesus left the disciples at Mt of Olives . He ascended into heaven to the Father and receives the kingdom. This is not the second coming. That has yet to happen.

[@vikingdemonpr]

Can we get that doc in PDF?

[@nunya3399]

But if “they” collectively are considered the son of man, and the church is the body of Christ, then that would put Christ at the head, and the classic interpretation still applies in that way.

[@earlpeterson5503]

Interesting perspective. I'll have to look into this a little more.

[@obsidiansun2104]

my Benedictine bible from Belmont abbey circa 1953 has it specifically as a lioness? clarify?

[@michaelhezzlewood4917]

"Like a son of man" does not mean a human in heaven It is referring to "the Son of man" as Jesus referred to himself after his resurrection. At his resurrection Jesus was nolonger human but became a spirit as his human body had died. Once in heaven, he was brought before the person of Jehovah to offer the value of his sacrificial death, thereby buying back faithful fallen mankind from Sin and death. The 'stone cut out of the mountain' in Daniel chapter 2 is the Kingdom of God with Jesus Christ as the King of God's Kingdom. This Kingdom strikes the earth at the feet of iron and clay, a spectacular time line of events illustrated by Nebuchadnezzar's dream. This is our time period. Other bible prophecies confirm we are living in the time when God's Kingdom will finally step in and remove all human governments at the battle of Armageddon (God's War not man's)!

[@bubba-d9z]

the way i interpreted it was that Jesus was with the armies that came and defeated Israel. OT authors indicate this, such as isaih and zacharia.

[@spiritofeli]

The Horn in Daniel is the same Dragon in Revelation. Both make war with the saints, both overcome them, both open their mouth to blaspheme. Daniel Revelation is closed and then opened for John. In The Book of Enoch he referred to one who looked like Ben Adom. He did not mean a man he meant he looked like a young Adam, Because Ben Adom is slang (Son of Adam), it also means decendant of Adam, or in Enochs case; Adoms look a like. Because Adam was made in the image (Angel/Yah/Hand) of the Elohim. Adam looked just like the Elohim. Yesh was saying He is the Ben Adom from Enoch and Daniel. Enoch was clear the Son of Adam he was talking about was not a group of people but the one who would save us. In Zechariah 6 : 13 Even he shall build the temple of the Lord; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both (The Two of Them). (There are Two Elohim in the restoration) Yahweh is the one who comes with the clouds on the great and terrible day of Yahweh, so that makes Yahweh Ben Adom. The Ancient of Days is Shaddai in who will also be in Angel form. Normally it would be death to look upon Shaddai. Yahweh יהוה is Yish/Yesh יש and Yahweh is the Son of Shaddai "Ben Elohim" And we will see Yahweh coming to sit at the Right Hand of Shaddai. Yshua ישוע doesn't just means Ysh יש (Hand of The Destroyer) saves but also means "Bare Witness to the Nail in the Destroyers Hand" Yah יה also means "Behold Hand" and Yahweh יהוה means "Behold Nail Behold Hand" Not only to Yeshua and Yahwehs name mean the samething but He was literally Nailed to a tree. Shaddai "שדי" "My Destroyer" in the Paleo pictographic meaning is: "Hand within the Destroyer and the Destroyer within the Hand" Yeshua said "Believe I (Yod) am in (Dalet) the Father (Shin) and the Father (Shin) is in (Dalet) Me (Yod) He made it clear that He is the Yod (Hand) of the Father and the one who come on the great and terrible day of Yahweh. Even in Revelation there is One in Zion on the Throne and the Other comes with the clouds on the terrible day "Hide us from the face of He who sits on the Throne and from the wrath of the Lamb (who obviously comes with the clouds).

[@blazenadzurjanikova9173]

Jesus himself refers to him as the Son of man on multiple occasions. He is the One coming as the angel says to Jesus's disciples looking at heaven where Jesus disappeared. He is the Way as He himself says. In him all his followers who suffer after his example are saved and sitting on the thrones in heaven. I don't see the point to translate it moving to the people of God.

[@mikaenglish7764]

why must Christians always insult people that disagree with their theology its not very Christ-like IMHO. Mr.Tabor is correct The "Son Of Man" is not referring to Jesus in Daniel 7. Exodus 12:12, 14:19, 13:21, 23:20 coming with the clouds is symbolic of the Chariots of YHWH or as we say in modern times UFOs The angel of The Lord led Israel from the armies of Egypt. Michael=Who is like YHWH Daniel 10, Daniel 12 explain that Michael is the prince who rules over Israel. One"like" the "son of man" like:meaning resemble or similar. The angels through out scripture have the appearance of men( like the son of man)

[@ronaldaqui4757]

This commentary does not make sense. The text of Daniel clearly refers to the entity coming on the clouds in the singular. For example, ....."ONE ..like the Son if Man". Or. ..."dominion shall be given to HIM". All singular! To stretch the interpretation to mean something COLLECTIVE is not logical.

[@peggynewman3598]

Adam who is Archangel Michael is referred to as Ancient of Days. They are referring to Adam, not God.

[@kingdomquest]

it seems to me you based all of this off of the difference between the definite article, "the" and "a". I truly do not believe this holds up to any sort of scrutiny. Particularly knowing there are no definite articles in Hebrew. I know you're looking at Aramaic, but it is far more reasonable to believe this syncs up with Yeshua.

[@williamdrake8938]

you are wrong. Jesus refers to himself as the Son of Man. That is his favorite name for himself.

[@bobbyhendrix8536]

I don't think God's word was ever meant to be this troubling for ppl! They didn't have computers, n expository bibles, etc I think man, in his attempt to be smarter than God with their PhDs to appear intelligent! Just pray in the Holy Spirit! Ppl want to be more spiritual than they are!!!

[@dylantyt6654]

I think your whole theory is debunked in that 1 verse itself, because it says "ONE, LIKE the son of man" referring to ONE individual and not a collective group

[@hermannm3291]

Son of man is Jesus Christ, nothing else. Problem is you can't see Jesus Christ coming because you only see a 7 year tribulation, there is 7 years of seals and 7 years of trumpets.

[@7EV1N]

Absolutly brillinat

[@Statute387]

KING DAVID SHALL BE KING: Ezekiel 37:24-25 24 And DAVID MY SERVANT SHALL be king over them; and they all shall have ONE shepherd: they shall also walk in MY JUDGEMENTS, and OBSERVE MY STATUTES, and DO THEM. 25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: AND MY SERVANT DAVID SHALL BE THEIR PRINCE FOR EVER. [Maybe Christians should read their “old” Testament? It is half of their Christian Bible? 🕊️]

[@oneworldson]

James is using his God given gifts of intellect. He's devoted hundreds if not thousands of hours studying and sharing. He's helped me find God. You don't have to agree with everything a man says to revere his dedication or learn something. For you judging harshly, be aware you don't have the prince of peace in your heart. Of course you can link your channel to display your compentecy and your hours dedicated to true understanding and spreading the truth. Otherwise; ye without sin cast the first stone.

[@jfmudey]

The Saints are the Elders found by Yeshuah in his Time and by the Son of Man in the Last Generation. The Saints are called Elders. Yeshuah found 12 and lost 1. The Son of Man is here today and found 12 amongst the Gentiles and is in search of 1 more Jew. This is the Court of the Last Temple made by God.

[@byronumphress3805]

I BELIEVE THE ELDER IN REVELATION IS SWEET MOTHER MARY, AND CHOOSING THE HOLY SPIRT, JOHN 14:26 SHALOM

[@jfmudey]

@byronumphress3805 Sorry, that would be incorrect. Mary gave birth to Yeshuah, but she didn't follow in FAITH. A Prophet can't be a Prophet in their own town. Also, look and see these are my brothers and sisters and mother. They are the ones that obey the Will of my Father. Yeshuah said these things against his family and his town. Mary was evil because she had Yeshuah use his gift from God at a Time that wasn't sanctioned. She had Yeshuah make wine, which was not appropriate use of his powers. Yeshuah prayed to our Father and thanked him for giving him the 11 Elders. They were persecuted in Tribulation just as Yeshuah told them. Now, in this Last Generation, the Son of Man searches for 13. This number has been treated to be cynical because the Evil One is repulsed by it. But, this number is glorious because it completes the gathering of the Court, which is needed for the 3rd Temple to come forth. Yeshuah said, "I didn't come to judge, in fact, I come to save the World." Judges reveals the High Priest that comes in the absence of a Temple. Yeshuah claims he is not the King of this World by this, but in fact states that he is King in Heaven. See, the Son of Man is the Prince of this World that Yeshuah stated is coming. Yeshuah said that the Prince will come to vindicate the teachings of Yeshuah and prove that Yeshuah loves the Father. That Prince to be King of this World is the High Priest, the Judge, the Melchizedek, and the King. There are Two Kings. One for Heaven and One for Earth. Genesis 38 reveals that they are Twins and how they come to the World and the bloodline of their coming. Zerah yields Yeshuah. Perez yields the Son of Man.

[@rickgresen7195]

Like unto the Son of Man is defined in Revelation 1. Reading Revelation 1 which reveals who this is.. Secondly, The KJV in Daniel 7.9 KJV is till the Thrones were cast down v the quoted NKJV. Versions of the Bible need to be changed to comply with man's copyright laws... By comparison this doesn't compute. We Truly are in The Last Days... Remember Daniel is a sealed book...

[@danv4046]

Clear twisting of meaning of scripture This author is WRONG When Jesus claims " iam " " clouds" high priest understood who Jesus is making Him Self To Be And in rage he tears his cloth ..... Hearers understood who Jesus is claiming to be.. But this scholar has no clue....

[@dandurisek9533]

Thank you James Tabor for helping those that are seeking wisdom and knowledge! We must all search the scriptures thoroughly so as not to be decieved!