Lost in Translation: The Son of Man Coming in the Clouds of Heaven is NOT Jesus!

[@Edwin-pw7cu]

Jesus favorite way to refer to Himself is the Son of Man. And when He was on trial for the Crucifixion He tells them they will see Him coming on the clouds of heaven.

[@twnb7733]

The apostate West is sinking. Time to enter into the Boat of Noah.

[@Babe07000]

Thank you so many deceitful videos on here but they will stand judgement Amen

[@SeekingTheTruth14er]

This one actually angered me a bit because it is so easy to see how false it is for anyone familiar with scripture. You would have to be an academic with no spiritual understanding to come to this conclusion. It makes me wonder if he has no understanding or if it is purposeful. I don’t like thinking the other. However, it presents us with an opportunity to change hearts and minds😇 Still, so hard to believe but remember spiritual understanding only comes from The HolySpirit. So scary, we are that vehicle called for it to work through. We were there once😇

[@LisaSchulanerFineArt]

He doesn't actually say that durring the crucifixion. He says you will be with me in paradise. The criminal next to him on the cross says something about him coming into his kingdom and obviously he means after they die and enter heaven. Then Jesus says you will be with me in paradise. Nothing about a second coming on the clouds.

[@rhdalllday]

@@LisaSchulanerFineArt Matthew 24:29,30 right before he is crucified Mark 13 Luke 21

[@johanscheepers1198]

dear Mr Tabor, as Jesus said "You search the scriptures thinking you will find the truth but they speak of Me". He is the subject of all the Bible, the coming Glorious King who is to rule with a rod of iron. Worship Him, as ''every knee will bow and acknowledge Jesus as Lord".

[@PazPinhasRahamim9220]

Would you like to know what the Passover lamb was really about? I'm Jewish.

[@mysticwanderer4787]

@@PazPinhasRahamim9220 What would a Jew know about the Hebrew Bible? (Sarcasm)

[@PazPinhasRahamim9220]

@@mysticwanderer4787 Enough to debunk your part of it...

[@PazPinhasRahamim9220]

@@mysticwanderer4787 Do you know what hara הרה (Isaiah 7:14) actually means?

[@mysticwanderer4787]

@@PazPinhasRahamim9220 You missed the (sarcasm) of my comment. I have great respect for the Jewish interpretation of the Tanakh. My degree is in religion and focuses on first-century BCE and CE Judaism and the messianic, apocalyptic Jewish sect of Jesus followers. I am supporting what I believe to be your stance as a Jew if it is in line with the rabbis and Jewish scholars I am familiar with and not the interpretation of modern-day Christians. My apologies if you took my comment the wrong way.

[@dbf876]

Son of Man = Jesus Text says…”there before me was ONE”…not plural, singular, one person, not many. “HE approached the Ancient of Days”…not they but HE, as in an individual, not a group of people. “a Son of Man”…Jesus is referred to as “a Son of Man”…dozens of times this phrase is used to refer to Jesus. Jesus himself refers to him being the Son of Man. It is Jesus, not the Church, that receives “authority, glory and sovereign power;” It is Jesus, not the Church, that is to receive WORSHIP! The Church in the text are part of the people in the text giving worship, not receiving worship. Not even the Angel in Revelation 19:10 thought himself worthy of worship…why would the Church receive worship in place of Christ!? That’s absurd! The text keeps referring to a HIM, HIS…singular male…not a group of people, but a singular person, a male…Jesus the Messiah! “HIS dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and HIS kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.” This was God’s promise to King David that the Messiah would someday be crowned in Jerusalem and the Messiah would have an everlasting kingdom! While the kingdom of the Antichrist will be given over to the People of God, it will be Christ who will reign, not the Church. It will be Christ we will need to obey, not the Church. It will be Christ who forever will be worshipped, definitely NOT THE CHURCH! You can’t brutally butcher a text to make it say something that it doesn’t say. And you can’t ignore what the rest of Scripture says about these events in other prophetic passages. To elevate the Church over Christ our King is heresy! This is a dangerous interpretation of Scripture not at all in line with the rest of the Bible and should not be taught or endorsed.

[@cuillinguy]

Except that the New Testament misquotes various passages of the OT to justify its theology. E.g the "virgin" birth with the word "virgin" never meaning that anywhere in the OT. Its changed in the NT to say something it doesn't say. Interpret the OT by the OT not through a NT lens. If you can't do that you're just making it up.

[@byronumphress3805]

SON OF MAN, EZEKIEL ! SHALOM

[@melaniebaynes2730]

And Isaiah referred to the time being "at hand", and he was six hundred years in advance. So the interpretation of time being "at hand", meaning imminent, is not right either. And when one looks on the whole Creation, and the infinity of God, what is time anyway? What we mortals think of as a long time, eg six hundred years, or two thousand years, will be nothing in the grand scheme of things to the Lord God. I'm just adding that, because it is mentioned in the video, that the "time is at hand" meant it was very soon, within the Scripture time period he discusses. I am fed up with man putting their own spin on it all, and then 'teaching' it as if they are absolutely correct. I don't lean into my own understanding, but trust in Jesus. And to anyone who disputes even His name, there is irrefutable power in that name. That's why every trick in the book is being played to stop Jesus's name being spoken. "A house divided cannot stand", so how can the Bible (or parts of it), be the work of the devil, when it's the devil that hasn't stopped attacking it? I think we're all better off concentrating on Jesus, and stop looking for things that He told us not to. No signs will be given, except for like in the days of Noah. Just be right with God, and leave the rest to Him.

[@cuillinguy]

The "dozens of times" is in the New Testament not the old. If you can't prove Jesus is the Christ purely from the OT then the NT doesn't stack up. As he says, the passage says "a son of man" not "the". So it merely means someone human not angelic. You have to ask what does it say in context not what some NT writing says. That's no proof. The NT changed OT words to make it suit NT theology e.g. the "virgin" birth where the word is "young woman" and it never means "virgin" nor was the passage about the messiah.

[@logicasola5828]

You are absolutely right my friend. I was about to say that, I'm glad I read the comments first, you succinctly stated it well.👍 As a regular follower of Dr. Tabors work, he's right in some, but definitely he's WRONG on this one. It's very clear, the "Son of Man" refers to a SINGULAR being, and it's a male (HE) in particular. So many scholars have already pointed it out and it's clear. The Saint's and Church will only have dominion once the "Son of Man" already received all power and authority, and that is Christ. I don't care what other interpretations like the one Dr. Tabor just presented. We should always "Exegete" and let the text explain itself. And it clearly points to Christ without a shadow of a doubt. ✝🔥

[@jazzyladyjae7669]

Acts 1:11 who said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This [same] Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will return in just the same way as you have watched Him go into heaven.” BEHOLD, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and every eye will see Him .... even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes (nations) of the earth will mourn over Him [realizing their sin and guilt, and anticipating the coming wrath]. So it is to be. Amen. [Dan 7:13].

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

Same way Satan arrives In fact both do all the same things 🤔

[@John155-hq3hb]

Where in the bible does it says satan will come in the clouds with great power and glory?​@@Uncanny_Mountain

[@davidarmes747]

I think the Bible has been tampered with. I dont think that God's way was meant to be so difficult for us to understand. I have to apologize.. the way I phrased my comment made me sound like I am ignorant to religion. Sorry. But thanks to everyone for the kind gestures to lead me in the right direction!! 😀

[@thomassmith2624]

General Order 12: all subspace messages to be coded while under attack. Lieutenant Saavik Star Trek.😂

[@mikemelcher1705]

It was clearly tampered with. Look into the council of Nicea. Also look into the Ethiopian Bible.

[@Gemineye77]

Do me and yourself a favor by typing Bill Donahue Hidden Meanings in your KZbin search engine. The Bible is easy to understand when you have a great pastor , and nobody does it better than Bill. 1 hour will change your life.

[@harveywabbit9541]

Throw all the books away and think for oneself.

[@mikemelcher1705]

@@harveywabbit9541 read and study all the chapters (books) and you might discover it is much greater than most can comprehend. You are absolutely right though, this must be done thinking for yourself. And all the "books". Not just the abrahamic ones.

[@danwaggoner5123]

Dr. Tabor, I would like to point out to you that in Luke 7, the Pharisees call Jesus a drunkard and a glutton and Jesus' response in to remind them that John the Baptist came eating no meat nor drinking any wine and you said he had a demon, but now the SON OF MAN comes to you eating and drinking and you call him a glutton and a drunkard (Luke 7:34). Jesus clearly believed himself to be the Son of Man. I understand that elsewhere it is not so clear, but, at least here, Jesus is referring to himself as the Son of Man.

[@YaA-l-ex]

Before mentioning any Jesus' saying, one should take into account that whatever the Jesus of the Bible says or performs, it is not necessarily what the real Jesus once said but that what those who wrote the texts put into the mythical character's mouth for you to get convinced that he's indeed the Messiah predicted by the ancient prophets. However, it doesn't mean that the authors of the New Testament were deceivers but that they based their writings on oral accounts and rumors about Jesus who had already become a mithological character decades before the first attempts to write down the myth were made. For example, following the gospel according to Mark, one can see that Jesus, when dying, has no idea why he's dying although 1 or 2 chapters earlier he explains why he's going to suffer and eventually die to some of his disciples. So, being the earliest gospel of the NT, Mark contains both the truth about the real Jesus and that what's come up with as the myth evolved. To sum up, whatever the biblical character named Jesus tells, especially about him as the Messiah or the future, trying to scripturally substantiate it, it is an author/editors's insert. So, nothing set forth about the Jewish Messiah in the Old Testament has anything in common with Jesus. Hence, it is of no use to try to figure out what the biblical Jesus means by saying this or that.

[@danwaggoner5123]

@@YaA-l-ex I’m quite aware of all that, but there is simply no way to know what the historical msn said and what was put in his mouth. Dr. Tabor’s reference is to the text of Daniel, while stating that the biblical Jesus is not the Son of Man. I merely pointed out that Jesus, in the Bible, referred to himself as such.

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

​@@danwaggoner5123 Thanks for sharing your comments. I've never studied the book of Daniel. God bless you and your family.

[@randatatang9222]

​@@YaA-l-exMay I remind you that there is simply no place for mythicists among historians. Stop trying to justify the nonsense you believe

[@martinfernandez882]

​@@randatatang9222 Shows how little you know about this, one not need be a mythicist to say Jesus didn't say he was the Messiah. He could've been a very enlightened, even prophetical, but not messianic figure.

[@PedroCavalcanti-nk9ik]

First Horned Head: Julius Ceasar Second Horned Head: Augustus Ceasar Third Horned Head: Tiberius Ceasar Fourth Horned Head: Caligula Ceasar Fifth Horned Head: Claudius Ceasar Sixth Horned Head: Nero Ceasar Three Horns without a Head: Galba, Otho and Vitelius (Who were succeed by Vespasian), who could not control the beast that the Roman army became. Seventh Horned Head: Vespasian Cesar Little Horn: Titus son of Vespasian, the Destroyer, the Abaddon, the Apolyon, the one who destroyed Jerusalem while still a army general. The Seven-Headed Ten-Horned Beast: The ten first emperors from the founding of the Roman Empire to the destruction of Jerusalem who cultivated in various degrees the emperor-worship paganism.

[@jdaze1]

The beast was not destroyed in 70 ad by the rock cut without hands. Rome continued on for centuries and is still alive today as the Roman Catholic Church.

[@harveywabbit9541]

"In the first year of Belshazzar, Daniel saw a dream in the night" (winter). Belshazzar was, as we have seen, the winter Sun, winter being the night of the year, when Daniel (Aries) comes to his meridian. The four winds answer to the four cardinal points, as also the four great beasts," or the cherubim. The time being about the winter solstice, when the Lion would be seen to rise in the evening, as the Sun sets in Aquarius. This lion-like beast, or Man-lion, had eagle's wings, and may be seen pictured in Joseph Bonomi's Nineveh, p. 251, and in other books. Daniel looked at this beast (Leo) until the Eagle's wings were plucked, i.e., until the Eagle rose, and " was lifted up from the earth; when, lo, a second beast (Scorpio), like to a Bear (Ursa major; on the meridian in April, and hence the comparison), raised itself on one side," i.e., on the south side of the equator, where Scorpio rises as a paranatellon of the Eagle. The three ribs constitute its symbol, or sign shown by three downward strokes, connected at the top like the letter m. The devouring of much flesh is characteristic of winter, which begins when the Sun enters Scorpio. The third "great beast," which Daniel thought, or imagined, he saw, was like a leopard, or better, tiger, since the root of the original word means to stripe. This third beast, then, refers to summer, beginning at the summer solstice, when the Sun rises and sets in Cancer, and Aquarius rises soon after sunset. The leopard, tiger and lion are natives of the hot climates, and hence properly typify summer, whose sky is usually overspread with small clouds, scattered here and there like the spots on a leopard. Hence Indra, the Indian Jupiter and the Hebrew Lord, is represented sitting upon a leopard or tiger's skin. This beast had upon its hack, the four wings (winds) of a fowl (" what flies, floats " = the atmosphere during the year (see Fuerst’s Heb. Lex., p. 1027), and also four heads (the four quarters of the year). "Dominion was given to it" (vs. 6). "The law,’ it will be remembered, was promulgated from Mount Sinai, or the summer solstice.

[@PedroCavalcanti-nk9ik]

@@jdaze1 Oh no. You are right. The beast won at 70 AD. The city of Jerusalem had its Apocalipse (Revelations 16). The prostitute - the city of Rome - intoxicated all nations for centuries (Revelations 17). This prostitute was only judged and turned into ruins in 476 AD (Revelations 18). She became the bride of the church. The beast was under control for one millennium (Revelations 20).Then, satan was released in the 1400s AD bringing back the Slave Trade, individualism of Renassaince, the hedonistic courts of Absolutism and open interpretation of the bible of Protestatism. We are living this era waiting the new heavens and new earth of Revelation 21.

[@harveywabbit9541]

@@davidmcpott1924 Iron and Clay are winter symbols. Remember where Og/Gog, the summer sun, sleeps on an iron bed during winter. During this period Magog, Maha Bhaga takes over.

[@harveywabbit9541]

@@davidmcpott1924 The Eagle (Aquila constellation) in this myth, is the same Eagle who carried Moses/Ganymede (Aquarius) to Mt. Sinai/Mt. Olympus. Exodus 19.4. Moses (Aquarius) returns every January with thirty days of weeping (rain).

[@godwinsboom]

The one who comes in the clouds sends HIS angels to gather His elect from the 4 winds Matthew 24:30-31

[@josecostales3116]

Acts 1 10 They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. 11 “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.” So left in flesh comes back in flesh at that time.

[@fcastellanos57]

Daniel 2, may be talking about the saints of the Most High, but it includes the coming of the Messiah, our Lord. There is no coming of the Kingdom of God without the coming of our Lord. 1 and 2 Thessalonians depicts this coming. Jesus will take over the whole world and all its governments, take evil out of here and place righteousness in its place from that point on. There is a hiccup at the end of Millenium but Satan and all unrighteousness will disappear forever.

[@BagzAndPresident]

Jesus should have done that the FIRST time

[@ervinlayne8988]

I'VE NEVER CALLED OUT A PREACHER BEFORE BUT I'M COMPELLED TO DO IT NOW

[@Lionel-zs1qb]

Becareful doing it brother

[@kimisrael66]

This guy is OFF ! WRONG..

[@CorrieLynn-ts3cp]

The Bible says by faith and faith alone is your salvation. The Bible texts is generations of stories woven together. None of us know exactly what the truth is in the word. This world is an evil place, The one thing that stands out is Faith in God

[@CorrieLynn-ts3cp]

And what this man is saying has been with alot of research, the words in the Bible are not what it really is because the apostles explained what they saw the best way they could. It was thousands of yrs ago when there were things that there were no words at the time to explain. He is speaking the actual words from the Bible itself. He is explaining what it really is

[@susiepittman601]

Stop yelling.

[@johnmark5717]

Thank God that Jesus didn't leave us in the hands of frail man to lead us into the truth. This is another perfect example why.

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

30,000 denominations can't be wrong, right? 😂

[@badazzmaro]

​@@Uncanny_Mountainthat's the point there's no denomination that can encapsulate Christ. The way that the church spread out among the different cultures and people throughout history retained what it did and has its differences shows the variety in mankind's earthly walk. And yes that's something that Christians tend to forget. Instead of Protestants arguing with Catholics, all Christians should be united in the spirit to help the Jews and Muslims bear witness to the father

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

@Badazzmaro .. sooo, Paganism? But they all contradict each other What you're describing is called Authoritarian Communism KKKomrade

[@EXISTENCE1891]

I'm surprised that doctor Tabor takes this view. Virtually all son of man references are to Yeshua, the second Adam 1 Cor 15.20-23

[@pinky9440]

No, it is not. Do proper research and you'll stop regurgitating church doctrine.

[@EXISTENCE1891]

@@johnmichaelson9173 Who is Dr Table?

[@johnmichaelson9173]

I trust Dr Tabor over you.🙂

[@johnmichaelson9173]

@@EXISTENCE1891 Take your best guess?

[@Bildad1976]

“I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like a son of man, and he came to the Ancient of Days and was presented before him. And to him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve him; his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom one that shall not be destroyed." Hmmm, This can be no one other than Yeshua HaMeshiach (Jesus)!

[@stevenclark5682]

Mother Earths kingdom NOT mans

[@stevenclark5682]

Great Spirit is the Ancient of days NOT Yahweh.Yahweh is the fallen one!

[@debbieruttenberg4152]

The verse says, "like the son of man".

[@thejobslayers]

This is indeed Jesus, but not at His 2nd coming, but at His ascension. He ascended to the right hand of the Father and was given dominion. He Himself says that at His ascension. Matthew 28:18-20 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

[@josephpchajek2685]

Well, technically he's still in the clouds helping us as I type this. He's here now in that aspect. The next resurrection is a different event.

[@thejobslayers]

True, I was just pointing out that the verse in Daniel 7 was a prophecy referring to Jesus' ascension and that Jesus Himself told Caiaphas and the Sanhedrin who were present that He was that figure prophesied. That's why Caiaphas tore his robes and claimed Jesus was blaspheming because he claimed to be that one who would appear before the Ancient of days to assume dominion. And He is currently ruling at the right hand of the Father until all enemies are made his footstool as prophesied in Psalms.

[@77at77-fw2tw]

@@josephpchajek2685 The old God must have had other things to do.

[@robusc4940]

Are you & I JUSTIFIED/saved only by faith or are works also required ? I am referring to 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 2:8-9, Gal 2:16, Rom 3:24-28, Rom 4:5-8, Titus 3:5, Eph 1:13

[@johnmichaelson9173]

Toss a coin, it really doesn't matter.

[@robusc4940]

@@johnmichaelson9173 What verses are on your side of the coin ?

[@johnmichaelson9173]

@@robusc4940 I handed my bible in many year's ago after reading Joshua 10:13, As for the NT I'm no expert but I know Virgin's can't have babies & men can't walk on water. Good luck for the future.🙂

[@robusc4940]

@@johnmichaelson9173 A lot of Bible 'stuff' is unexplainable. The folowing is even harder to comprehend. Of well over 300 known gemstones only approx 20 are ANistropic. Rev 21:19-20 list 12 gemstones, all are ANisotropic. What are the mathematical odds of you or I, 2000 years ago, picking them by random ? To be generous use 25 out of 300 and we have to RANDOM pick 12 of them. Did the maths for you. 12x12.45x12.96x13.5x14.09x14.75x15.47x16.27x17.17x18.18x19.33x20.64 1 chance in over 170 TRILLION A 6 from 45 lotto win is 1 chance in over 8 million..

[@LyleFrancisDelp]

I've always wondered.....why do we as Christians, call him the son of god, when he always called himself the son of man. That has always confused me....even back when I was a fervent practicing christian.

[@harveywabbit9541]

Son of Man = Sun of Earth. Son of God = Sun of El/Jupiter (Aries at spring equinox) aka Mesiah/Messiah

[@thewayfollower]

Go to the book of Enoch. Jesus referred to Enoch repeatedly. He, Jesus, is The Son of Man, who goes with The Ancient of Days everywhere.

[@harveywabbit9541]

@@thewayfollower Enoch is also spelled Ha Noch/Hanok a son of Reuben (Aquarius). Son of Man = Sun of Earth.

[@harveywabbit9541]

@@thewayfollower Enoch is properly spelled as Ha Noch aka the noch, a son of Reuben (January/Aquarius). Enoch appears to be the winter solstice in Aquarius (Age of the Bull), just like Moses/Ganymede (Aquarius). There is a famous winter celebration that rhymes with Hanoch.

[@devarmont87]

​@@harveywabbit9541 ​​you're missing one very valid point. The Aramaic word for Son, 2000 years ago spoken did not mean in English as "birth child". Jeshua used the word Son not to mean Sun as in Star, but to mean "equal with" or "equal nature" So you're translation would more accurately look like - Son of man - 'equal nature of Earth". But you're also misinterpreted Man. Man = being, more closely being as in conscious life. . You could refer to a goat as a 'being' as it has life. But human life was 'man'. So man = conscious being (today we would call it spirit) Jeshua was Son of man - Equal nature of conscious being

[@TheObserver37]

It’s very good for you to be focused when reading the Bible I do admire that. Having said that there’s a basic rule the word of God brings peace understanding the word of man brings misery, confusion it’s hard. Jesus is easy. That’s my rule when I read the Bible so I can tell the difference between man’s word and the word of God.

[@alexluthiger731]

The Words of God bring peace and understanding. The Words of humans bring misery and confusion and war. We are judged by our own words through the Word the Christ Jesus has spoken. The observer's Word has power. 🍷🎃

[@bluwng]

Where did the idea of second coming come from, wouldn’t the resurrection count as a second coming?

[@edwardkmicheal218]

@sonia____02 some will rise & some won't, depending on their conviction in Christ~Yeshua as we all are, love U all ! kdagPlymouthUK 2024May24th 2329hr.bst

[@One_voice369]

@sonia____02great I agree ☝️

[@harveywabbit9541]

@sonia____02 The Messiah, aka Son/Sun of Jupiter, is the spring sun that brings new life. This is the resurrection from the dead/winter season. The famous Rameses is two words of meses (son of) and Ra (the sun). All Kings were sons of the sun. You could say that Jesus was the King Sun which is the same as saying King Solomon or King sun-sun-sun. The sun of winter, spring, and summer.

[@jonnyblaze2692]

The idea of a second coming was created by Christians once Jesus didn't fulfill his original prophecies. He clearly stated that he would return before the people he was talking to died after a couple generations you start to see the mythology pop up in the Gospels. I would suggest that you read the New testament literature in the order it was created so Paul's letters then Matthew and then the three synoptic Gospels and you will clearly see that there was an initial prophecy that wasn't fulfilled and then a bunch of b******* created to cover that up

[@One_voice369]

@@jonnyblaze2692 “he clearly stated that he would return before the people he was talking to died” Nope, he CLEARLY stated the opposite and here is proof John 21:23 Then this saying went out among the brethren that this disciple would not die. Yet Jesus did not say to him that he WOULD NOT die, but, “If I will that he REMAIN till I come, what is that to you?” So yes what he stated came to pass. All you have to do is read the book of revelation. John REMAINED, saw the (1) end of this world AND (2) saw the end of time, before he DIED. Nice question!

[@obsidiansun2104]

my Benedictine bible from Belmont abbey circa 1953 has it specifically as a lioness? clarify?

[@DanielWise-v1f]

Finally.. 😅 א גוי מיט א יידישער קאפ Why is it so rare to find an honest academic who can just share an empirical reading 9f the text. Bless him

[@fdg2438]

Who do men say that i the son of man am? Matthew 17

[@cloudsoftorah6167]

Daniel 7:15-21 We are given the explanation in the same chapter, how can a Christian read that and think they can explain it better? The 4 beasts are not literal animals but represent kingdoms and the one like a son of man is also a representation of a kingdom which is the saints of Israel as explained in Daniel 7:15-21

[@mikejurney9102]

What's a "Kingdom" without a king? A group of people (They) can receive the kingdom by welcoming a king. But a group of people do not constitute a Kingdom. Only a King can established the existence of a kingdom.

[@queenajustice542]

There is A King of Kings

[@mikejurney9102]

@@queenajustice542 What is a large group of people having a kingdom? Is that a democracy?

[@queenajustice542]

@@mikejurney9102 The people are the kingdom

[@LisaSchulanerFineArt]

It might not make sense to our modern thinking especially because we are all so indoctrinated into the King James and subsequent translations and Christian tradition, but he is trying to give us a more accurate translation based on how ancient Jews would have understood the writings. Honestly unless you have studied ancient Hebrew and Aramaic and their world views how can you say with any certainty that he is not correct.

[@mikejurney9102]

@@LisaSchulanerFineArt Right! I'm sure the ancient people would never have understood a kingdom without a king.

[@Busabuck100]

Decades of church and Bible studies and never heard the real meaning of The Son of Man. Thanks.

[@Viral_Christology]

"the real meaning of The Son of Man" aka a steaming pile of hogwash.

[@timothy4557]

When you mess with the Book, God messes with your mind.

[@boldtruth6226]

God never tempts us. It is our desires and chasing after material short lived moments and things to buy our happiness That loving is impossible on earth anymore. But all who know Jesus in their deeds, and soul by making Jesus like choices. Always loving. Love is always reciprocated and no longer will our relationships hurt us and betrayal is so bad it's even in homes, fathers against sons sons against sons mother in law against doughter, daughter againd mothers. But God picked his beloved of us and made a new kind of human.a more advanced DNA where it has just begun to be stable in the blood, and the angels are changing our DNA. This us why we all get sick so easily. Angels are aliens. The Hebrew word aliens was used 2000 years ago? Are angels good and bad?

[@johnmichaelson9173]

Don't be so superstitious, smh.

[@timothy4557]

@@johnmichaelson9173 God messed with your mind. 😊

[@johnmichaelson9173]

@@timothy4557 👈You're the one making the silly comments. I rest my case.

[@Rupunzelsawake]

It's more accurate to say the Book messes with your mind. There's overwhelming evidence of that among bible believing Christians.

[@donaldhandy1060]

The Son is the representation of The Invisible Omnipresent Almighty God "When you've seen me you have seen The Father"

[@christophernichols1379]

"A chip off the old bloc, a spitting image."

[@professorcygnus7069]

Translating, is definitely very important, just a few things changed, and everyone believes every word, which is why it is important to translate correctly, the fact that there was so many changes from the original documents, changes really the entire religion. Many of the books that were found in original documents, actually highlights polytheism and then they alternate to become monotheism

[@mikegyver3193]

It has been used out of context because of the translations and publishing of alternative Bibles. The capital S Son of man is Jesus. The small s son of man is a man born of the flesh.

[@PrestonMoG]

Everyone read Acts 1 9-11. And decided for yourselves. Jesus is coming back in like manner.

[@ervinlayne8988]

You need to read the new testament on the subject, either you don't understand what you are saying or are deliberately deceived

[@LisaSchulanerFineArt]

Are you sure? How do you know he is wtong? Are you a highly educated Bible scholar with many many hours of personal study and revelation? Also do you know how to translate from Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic? Or Bible college? Which one?

[@tonyrhineheimer6556]

The New testament is garbage Jesus was a false prophet

[@MrWisdomseekr]

@@LisaSchulanerFineArt Many Christians who are in the Spirit can understand the Bible better than a scholar. Remember, God does not think like us.

[@Phillip-n3g]

I beg of thee to respond. I read that words over time changed the meaning .thus son of man in Daniel's time meant something different during the time of Jesus..please someone respond??

[@byronumphress3805]

70x40 EZEKIEL WAS CALLED SON OF MAN ALSO, HE WAS KNOWN TO EAT A SCROLL, THEN IN REVELATION YOU HAVE THE LITTLE BOOK THAT GETS EATEN, SCHOLARS SAY THAT JOHN EATS THE LITTLE BOOK, HOWEVER I BELIEVE IT IS THE SON OF MAN , NOT EMMANUEL JESUS, BUT THE HOLY SPIRT, SHALOM

[@jonnyblaze2692]

​@@byronumphress3805ezekiel's dream there was depicting something that was happening in current times for him. The scroll taste sweet like honey. The scroll is a listing of all the sins of the Jewish people.

[@thebrand5184]

You can easily search it, bro.

[@LisaSchulanerFineArt]

It is very possible and even likely that the meanings have changed. These scriptures were written over two thousand years ago by people from a culture long changed over time. How can anyone say that a word meant exactly what we to day think it means? The problem is that people read these ancient text from today's culture and world views and do not know or even consider what the original writer was trying to say in their ancient perspective.

[@byronomboy]

​@@LisaSchulanerFineArtExactly. Unless Jesus himself wrote the text in a clear and comprehensive manner that interpretation is no longer required. Then we won't have an issue. But alas, the reality is different.

[@LisaSchulanerFineArt]

Thank you Dr Tabor. I appreciate your perspective and understanding of these anciet text and believe that you are vastly closer to the true meanings then todays traditional Christian understanding.

[@earlpeterson5503]

Ah. Some sanity. Most believers read their bible like it's a 21st century western American novel, without realizing that the biblical figures knew nothing the way we do. They have so misread the scripture that they don't even understand that the 'return' has already taken place, exactly when and how Jesus said it would. Prophecy is figurative language (coming in the clouds), describing a temporal event (destruction of Jerusalem), pointing to a higher spiritual reality (the coming kingdom). The entire church today, conflates the kingdom and the world. 'Wolf dwelling with lamb, no more wars'. That's the kingdom, not the world. But they're waiting for it.

[@LisaSchulanerFineArt]

@@earlpeterson5503 yes, I agree. Unfortunately most Christians just believe what their pastor teaches them and the pastors just believe what seminary teaches them. They think they are believing the Bible at face value but it's actually Christian tradition from a 21st cen. American perspective.

[@earlpeterson5503]

@@LisaSchulanerFineArt Absolutely. Everything is read through the 'filter' of what we've been told. I understand how difficult that is to escape. Thanks.

[@thli8472]

Is there an animated version of the book of Daniel?

[@roxieearly9484]

Jesus is the Outstretched Arm of YHUH ,YaHUaH,The Father, His arm of salvation.

[@chericandream]

CommonWeath -- Hebrew= CrossedOver sWORD Spirit and Truth -- 7th day sAbbAth's Seal -- Covenant IN Loyalty The Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah= Spirit= AbbA Creator Father. Yahu'Sha Hebrew Anointed SonShip= sWORD and Head(ROCK) to body(stones) of congregation covenant loyal (be)living IN earth, that adhere TO His voice: (Yashra'Al) ...The Most High Ahb Y6ahu'Ah sovereign saves. Emet ❤️ Love you Ahb Yahu'Ah sovereign of my breath, soul, and the blood IN my veins (DNA). (Psalm 90:12-17) So teach us TO number our days, That we (may) apply our hearts unTO wisdom. Return, Oh Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah sovereign, how long? And let it repent thee concerning thy servants. Oh satisfy us (early) with thy mercy; That we (may) rejoice and be glad all our days. And counting: ...1st day/night season of the WorkWeek, ...2nd day/night season of the WorkWeek, ...3rd day/night season of the WorkWeek ...4th day/night season of the WorkWeek, ...5th day/night season of the WorkWeek, ...6th day/night season of the WorkWeek (double up): ...for the morrow’s morning IS the Seventh day/night sAbbAth's season. Emet ❤️ What was Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob considered before the 12 tribes were born? ...And before Yahu'Sha the anointed Hebrew Messiah, rather than the Roman religion's man-made diety with the Greek name that has no power and authority IN the Kingdom's throne. ...Go to (Genesis Chapters 15-17) and (Hebrews Chapter 11) to understand the Covenant Loyalty and 'Saving Will' Testimony of the Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah sovereign ❤️ ...They were all faithful, obedient, and walked with the Most High Sovereign IN UpRightNess, Kingdom MindSet Justice, and were SetApart from embedded pagan world religious conditioning and dogma. Tsion ❤️ Praise and thanks to the Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah for His 'Saving Will' Testimony IN His anointed Hebrew Son Yahu'Sha Messiah. Prayers, blessings, and peace (restoration) of the ❤️, for those that adhere TO His voice, covenant, and commandments.

[@chapmaned24]

cover you mouth before you sneeze!

[@jessebasham1450]

My name is Jesse

[@thomasharper3185]

Sorry but that is incorrect. You gave a good lesson however "Son of man returning in the clouds" is in reference to Christ. In the New Testament this same figure is mentioned and is directly referencing Christ in his ascension into the clouds and the disciples are told that in like manner will Christ come back . This "as the Son of man" is also referenced as the figure in the furnace that protects the three hebrews in Daniel. Son of Man whether "as" or not is in reference to "the Word " which is the Physical embodiment of the Father that interacts and intercedes for us.

[@harveywabbit9541]

Son of Man When God (Ram/Aries) sets in the West in autumn, the dove disappears from among us, following God into the South. When God comes back from the South (Habakkuk.,3. 3) and again rises with the Sun, the dove reappears among us. Thus, it was that the dove came to be the emblem of the Sun of Man (of the earth), and also of the Holy Ghost (Sun-wind of March = S.W. monsoon), because then these three all appear at the spring equinox together; and we cannot speak of any of them without thinking of the other two. If we speak of the Son of Man we speak of the luminary which gives light to the earth: if we speak of the Holy Ghost we speak of the spring monsoon; and if we speak of the heavenly (summer) Dove we equally speak of the spring, or the mild season of the year, when the Dove is with us. God, or the Sun in Aries, the Holy Ghost, or Zephyrus, and the Dove are all one, because they come simultaneously in spring, remain with us during summer, and depart together in autumn. They constitute a trinity in unity, as the three seasons are one in the year. "The Dove caught the first rays of the dawn and the last rays of the setting Sun." (Didron's Christ. Icon., p. 439.)

[@harveywabbit9541]

The Furnace is the Hot Season of July thru October aka Leo thru Scorpio. Daniel = Ram/El is the judge =Aries. The three Hebrews are Taurus, Gemini, and Cancer. The wheel is always turning.

[@jonnyblaze2692]

You can't use the Christian Bible to prove things in Tanakh. It's funny because if you use the teaching for determining a false prophet that is written in Tanakh, You would clearly see that Jesus is one of those false prophets. The Hebrew Bible clearly states how a man can achieve salvation it involves you, your actions, and your creator. No middle man no idols no prayers to anyone other than Hashem

[@harveywabbit9541]

@@jonnyblaze2692 Hashem = Pluto/Hades.

[@jonnyblaze2692]

@@harveywabbit9541 = nonsense... HaShem means "the name". I really hope that you get some help with your issues.

[@MarkConwayTheBurgerKing]

When you read Revelation (from Jesus). Chapters 1 and 22, Jesus in the vision to John, given by the angel. It is clear that Jesus in His worlds quantifies, He(Jesus), will be returning in the clouds of heaven.. Jesus, speaks in the Gospels. Seeing yet not seeing. Hearing yet not hearing, and not understanding. John 14:1-3 Jesus, Son of God and son of man. Tells of His Return. If you read the New Testament in its entirety, you will get this in it's correct perspective. Taking a text here and there and dissecting the scriptures, creates incorrect assumptions and misinterpretation Shalom

[@Jbagggg]

Hi, James! Such a great upload, full of interesting insights and perspectives that were before unknown to me (though admittedly my Biblical understanding and knowledge - theologically and historically - is still in its relative infancy). I'm nigh on a year of having found the very salvation you're referencing in the video, of course, as it relates to the scripture(s) in discussion. At times I say I'm a born-again believer, or Christian, at other times I have been eternally blessed; that is, to have been found by God - salvaged. However, most of the time, I struggle to pinpoint the most fitting description, or 'label', of myself as it relates to the context of spiritual identity. Now, that's not to say I don't feel as if I've been born again, or that I'm eternally blessed and thankful for my salvation, or even that I'm a Christian. In fact, the irony of it all is that the aforementioned statements are the most orthologically precise ways I can describe what I am. Yet alas, in the current age, merely to say one is a Christian, carries along with it the unfortunate baggage of religion and man's iniquities, and nothing of salvation, forgiveness, redemption, love, peace, or unity. So, I suppose what I'm saying is that I am - and continually strive become - as pure a Christian as possible. And for me, that means to simply follow the words, actions, teachings, and life of Christ. Devoid of any religious interpretation or teaching of such things through the filter of men (and when I refer to teaching and religious interpretation, I am referring to the moments of my life that concern my own individual path of spiritual enlightenment as I hunger to ever-closer to God. All the rest of the time, to be able to learn from such thinkers, teachers, and pastors, too, is equally a blessing in my eyes. This of course includes yourself!) I raise all of these points to ultimately say three things: 1.) In addition to watching this video, I also recently watched the 'Blogging Theology' discussion you had a few years back, in which you lightly described your personal outlook toward it all, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it seemed you also struggled to find a 'camp'. I found a sense of solace in this, and after watching the above, it has helped to further my own theological understanding and knowledge. The idea you put forth that Jesus, John the Baptist, and the great Prophets before them, were people that 'got it' - 'it' being the understanding of true glory and greatness of God - a glory and greatness that cannot even accept a single name (whether that be God, YHWH, Jehovah, Allah, or others). He is too great! These ideas, put forth by scholars like yourself, are so helpful in understanding the truth in many ways behind God's word and His will for us, without the interjection or contamination of religious doctrine or mistranslation. 2.) A bit of a gear-change here, but I'm curious if you're familiar with George Washington's (perhaps alleged), 'Vision at Valley Forge'? I won't copy and paste the entirety of it here, but the section I will include below, seems to have the same line of interpretation as you're positing here as it relates to Daniel. “I found myself once more gazing upon the mysterious visitor, who, in the same voice I had heard before, said, "Son of the Republic, what you have seen is thus interpreted: Three great perils will come upon the Republic. The most fearful is the third, but in this greatest conflict the whole world united shall not prevail against her. Let every child of the Republic learn to live for his God, his land and the Union." With these words the vision vanished, and I started from my seat and felt that I had seen a vision wherein had been shown to me the birth, progress, and destiny of the United States.” Now, I openly admit that I have NOT done any form of academic review on validity or anything of the such, as it relates to Washington's vision, apart from perhaps a lazy undergraduate-level fact check. So, if it's all a bunch of BS, I am prepared to accept that! Anyways, from what I've been able to find thus far, I haven't found anything that discredits its validity. However, though, I have been researching Washington's own beliefs, which of course can be historically corroborated through things such as his personal writings, letters, etc., to which I've come to learn that Washington was incredibly devout in his faith. Which was largely unknown at that time of his life, let alone today. From what I've gathered, it was only the people closest to Washington's life who saw this level of spiritual devotion. He's described to have been found regularly in private, intense prayer; seeking of solitude for prayer in some of the most tumultuous times of his life/experience, and yet was someone that didn't attend Church or even appear to be any more or less religious than the lay of that time. **update - I have found some criticisms of the historical validity of Washington having said this, but have confirmed that the earliest known publication of it was in 1861 - others date back to the early 1850's. 3.) This point could be 2.5, but I'll just go ahead and make it point three. Abraham Lincoln, similar to Washington in the sense of having a closeted, but deeply personal and intense relationship with God - or longing for such - also had a vision, or prophecy as some consider. He states: "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war." These words are said to have been found in a letter written by Lincoln to Colonel William F. Elkins, in November 1864 - before the end of the Civil War. Furthermore, in an earlier part of Washington's vision, he describes the emergence of 'dark clouds' originating from the African continent that will lead to brother taking up arms against another, but that it will come to an end - or something to that effect. Maybe a coincidence, maybe myth, maybe history, or maybe the will of God - only God knows! Though nevertheless, the fact that such writings, words, or sentiments, concerning the ultimate destiny of United States - regardless of who authored them - which existed in an age where America was still yet to become the superpower of world, predicted that it would in fact be a superpower and suffer an unfortunate collapse before its redemption, is an interesting thing to think about or investigate. Now, if you overlay the status of America, the world at large, the above Presidential prophecies (so to speak), and the writings of the Bible, with particular emphasis on apocalyptic prophecy within both the Old and New Testaments, you have a seriously intriguing thought experiment! Well, for me anyways:) lol Sincerely, a man from Missouri, living in a village in Scotland! All the best to you, Dr Tabor, and may God bless you for the word YOU are doing and have done for His Kingdom! Amen!

[@angielee2076]

I love listening to you. Don't ever change. It's like after watching some other content, you provide for me a sane and reasonable space to learn what's developing into a wild ride for some critically important answers. Thank you.

[@MercedesCruz-qe1nj]

For years, I have trusted your knowledge of the scripture. Thank you for this lecture, Dr. Tabor.

[@karenlumpkin2918]

You are taking them out of context.

[@harveywabbit9541]

Chap. 2. In the second year (month = December) of his reign, Nebuchadnezzar (the winter Sun) "dreamed dreams," whereat he was greatly troubled. Notwithstanding he had forgotten his dreams, he greatly desired to know, not only the dreams, but their import. For this purpose, he summoned all the magicians, astrologers and Chaldeans before him to tell him what he had dreamed, and what his dreams foreboded. The king's command was accompanied by the promise of immense rewards to the astrologers, if successful, and also by the most frightful punishments in case of failure. The poor astrologers were in a bad fix. However, they told the king of the unreasonableness of his demand; that there was not a man on earth who could "show the king's matter" (vs. 10); and that it was absurd to ask " such things at the hand of any magician, astrologer or Chaldean." At this the king grew furious (the cold increased), and ordered every wise man of Babylon (winter) to be slain. This decree, of course, included Daniel and "his fellows," then captives in Babylon. Daniel was somewhat concerned, not only for himself, but for "his fellows." He, therefore, wisely returned to Arioch (Sagittarius0, " the captain of the king's guard," who was on his march to slay the wise men of Babylon (the constellations then above the horizon), and asked why the king was in such haste (vs. 15). Give him a little time, and he would not only show the dreams, but the interpretation thereof also (vs. 16). Daniel then consulted his fellows, desiring that they with him would seek the mercies of the God (Eloh) of heaven (summer) concerning this secret (the phenomena of the year), and so save themselves from perishing with the Babylonians (vs. 18). " Then was the secret revealed in a night (mid-winter) vision, and Daniel blessed the God of heaven " - " Blessed," said he, " be the name of God for ever and ever " - from winter to winter, is the correct translation, i.e., blessed be the name of God during summer, for wisdom and might are his (vs. 20). He changes the times and the seasons; removes kings and sets up kings; gives wisdom to the wise, etc. (vs. 21). He knows what is in darkness (winter), though the light (summer) dwells with him, i.e., he knows the phenomena of the year = the king's secret (vs. 22). Therefore, Daniel praised the God (El ah =himself) of his fathers, because he had made known to him the "king's secret" (vs. 23). Having learned the dream and its interpretation, Daniel hasted to Arioch (the light, or spring equinox), "who brought him before the king (Sun in Aries) in haste," and said: I have found a man of the captives of Judah that will make known to the king the interpretation (vs. 25). The king asked Daniel if it was so (vs. 26). Daniel answered, assuring the king that though his wise men were unable to find out the secret, there is a God (El ah) in heaven (Aries had just got there) that can reveal secrets, and that he will make known to Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter

[@jimford1256]

Hello James, if you read this, I have a question. for your book on Genesis what translation where you using. Every Hebrew text or bible I find they all use the language after the called redaction. i.e. translating Elohim to God. I would really love to find a original text prior to the redaction. Thank you.

[@HeleneWheatfield0549]

A viewer asked Paul Wallis of the 5th Kind TV website that question and he recommended The New Jerusalem Bible and an interlinear bible, plus a good lexicon.

[@jonnyblaze2692]

Get a copy of Tanakh... Art Scroll is good. Yes one of the main problems most Christians have is that they don't understand that Elohim doesn't actually mean God

[@awatchmen3244]

🤯 I know we are collectively the temple of God and his spirit dwells in us, and i and the father are one as the father and son are one. But i never concieved the congregation as the unified field of "one" son of man, in thee ALL. This makes so much more sense and confirms what my spirit has been growning to recognize. Thank you.

[@5ubjugator]

I also spotted this recently throughout the New Testament.

[@Gabriel-ServantOfGod]

About the little horn who blasphemed, some interpret it to be Constantine when he pushed the trinity as doctrine and persecuted the believers who were monotheists.

[@georgesparks7833]

Driving in the car listening to the podcast. I really enjoy it. Appreciate the variants of translations and interpretations. Time goes by so fast, When you're doing what you like. Thanks so much for all your effort😊

[@OldsReporter]

I think it's very simple. The Son of Man is literally the SON of MAN. Like... I'm a son of man, you're a son of man, etc.. And if we say THE (instead of A) Son of Man, it is a representative of what it means to be human. It's sad that people keep mindlessly repeating the phrase "the Son of Man" that it has turned into a meaningless string of syllables Thussunnammen.

[@Talmidiym8463]

Good afternoon sir….. you are absolutely correct. The one coming on the clouds is Yahuah( Yahweh). And just as Paul revealed to us in 1 Corinthians 12:3’ “Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Yahusha accursed, and no one can say that Yahusha is Yahuah except by the Holy Spirit.” 😇 be blessed Yahuah(Yahweh) was never the Father. It was the Son the entire time in the OT. Who created everything?… the Son. Read scripture between God and Job. Thats wasnt the Father… that was the Son. Thus why Christ when He was manifest in flesh told us that “no one has heard the Father nor ever seen His form or image.” Remember Colossians 1:13-20.

[@wilderness4071]

Yes no one has heard the father nor ever seen his form because the father is the universe itself, the totality of existence. That is not something a human can see only feel. The coming of the clouds is a reference to Christ consciousness or 5D consciousness. When Jesus says "he that hath seen me hath seen the Father" he means God consciousness expressed in form, awareness in service of love instead of awareness in service of fear, or Adam before the fall.

[@SeekingTheTruth14er]

Just look at John 1, says it all. We can use this as an opportunity for The HolySpirit in us to change hearts and minds here. The only way to understand Spiritual Truth. Jesus talk with nicodemus in John.

[@christophernichols1379]

Yahweh, is the beast of Revelation.

[@SeekingTheTruth14er]

@@christophernichols1379 wow, really! Tell me more. I bet you’ve never got that response from such a shocking and unsubstantiated claim. You have to be a troll or have some fundamental flaws in persuasion. Just yell out whatever? Most people don’t ever take a deeper level to find out the context or what they may be missing and trust in their limited understanding. Never listening to Our Heavenly Father on how you are made to understand things that are of a spiritual nature much less those of the flesh. If you are ever serious, I will be happy to share how I found answers to many questions I couldn’t understand. Not to argue, just for more edification in your search, if you so choose. Never rest on your own understanding, I don’t. Blessings🙏

[@christophernichols1379]

@@SeekingTheTruth14er Hosea 13:7-, Revelation 13:2-, Daniel 7:4-6

[@malachi44rememberthecomman83]

Can I download your videos for when wifi isn't available? Thanks

[@earlysda]

Jesus is the Son of Man. Let's pray James Tabor repents and starts believing the whole Bible.

[@pijaradiluhung9281]

Hey Dr. Tabor, I tried accessing your website but I can't, what may be the problem? Greetings from Indonesia

[@BenM61]

Side note: I’m reading your book ‘Paul and Jesus’ and it is really a page turner. It reinforces my belief that Saul is really the founder of what we know today as Christianity. I would definitely recommend it. It puts Bart and his views about Paul in the dust.

[@X23Ninja]

What people doesn't understand about Paul is that Paul was gatekeeping Jewish identity he did not want thousands of Romans and other Gentiles becoming Jewish and being circumcised and taking over the Jewish identity from Blood descended Jewish people. If Paul was never born Christianity still would have spread the difference is Constantine would have been circumcised and they be 2 Billion Jews instead of 2 Billion Christian today

[@fasted8468]

Noone leaves Christianity because of Christ. Plenty leave because of Paul.

[@thomassmith2624]

I have a feeling he was an infiltrator (he was being the ultimate Christian to queer the apostles pitch) and he later became a believer.

[@X23Ninja]

@@fasted8468 People have said the same thing about the Trinity/diety of Christ but does that make it wrong? I've noticed when people reject Pauls teaching they either convert to Judaism or Spiritually don't go anywhere. Hardly any churches reject Paul and more churches reject the Trinity

[@signdigger]

I firmly believe that the great falling away of the church today is the fault of Paul . I also believe he is the anti christ that Jesus said was among the people of his day that has led many down the broad path of destruction . There are so many contradictions in the life and teachings of Paul that are not in line with the teachings of Jesus ! Research these facts for yourself. Jesus said trust no man in the last days( Matthew 24v4 ) . There are millions of so called Christians still living a sinful lifestyle and really believe they are saved by grace to continue in that life will not get you into Heaven , Revelation 22v15-19 kjv . It is simple sinner or Saint you cannot serve two masters ! Heaven or Hell you decide each day !

[@jkr6208]

.athew 14:62-65 is very clear. Jesus called himself thus: "Then Jesus answered, “I am; and ‘you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of the Power and coming with the clouds of heaven.’”o 63At that the high priest tore his garments and said, “What further need have we of witnesses? 64You have heard the blasphemy. What do you think?” They all condemned him as deserving to die. 65Some began to spit on him. They blindfolded him and struck him and said to him, “Prophesy!” And the guards greeted him with blows.p Why distort the Word of God?

[@scripturalcontexts]

I do agree with Dr Tabor that in its original context Daniel 7 refers to the people of God and not to a specific Messianic figure. However where I would disagree with Dr Tabor is that this idea that Jesus as the son of man in the synoptic Gospels is somehow a Christian innovation or a concept that may have been lost in translation. We can see in other Second Temple Jewish literature apart from Daniel that a son of man tradition existed, such as in the Enochic Book of Parables (ca. First century BCE - 1st century CE) and in 4th Ezra (late 1st- early 2nd century CE) that understood the son of man to be a Messianic end times figure. 1 Enoch (although in a rather befuddling way which contradicts itself by seeming to imply that the son of man is an eternal being and yet later is actually Enoch) conceives the son of man not only as being a symbol of the righteous as in Daniel 7 but also as a Messianic figure who was named before the creation of the world and hidden in the presence of God. He is portrayed as a being who possesses the qualities of the idealistic Davidic king described in Isaiah 11 and is clearly an exalted end times judge much like Melchizedek in the Melchizedek Scroll found at Qumran. It is this portrayal of the son of man which some scholars such as George Nickelsburg believe influenced the Synoptic tradition of the son of man as an eschatological judge. 4th Ezra also portrays the son of man as a Messianic figure who flies around in the air much like Superman and defeats the enemies of Israel. So while Daniel 7 portrays the one like a son of man as a symbol of the righteous, we should not ignore the fact that other son of man traditions existed in Second Temple Judaism which saw the one like a son of man as an individual Messianic eschatological figure that also served as a symbol of the righteous who vindicates the righteous and punishes the wicked, and it may be these traditions which influenced the early Christian conception of Jesus as the son of man figure. IIRC, Darrell Bock and some other scholars have argued that the Gospel of Matthew's portrayal of Jesus as the one like a son of man was heavily influenced by the Enochic material. Also as an interesting unrelated aside, I find that James' remarks to the Jewish leaders in the tradition Dr. Tabor cited to be very reminiscent of jesus' statement in the olivet discourse that when the disciples would see all of the signs mentioned that they would know that he or it was near, at the very gates. I also find it interesting that James's statement to the Jewish leaders seems to be a purposeful echo of James 5:9 where the author speaks of the judge (Jesus? God?) standing at the door while referring to the imminence of the parousia.

[@harveywabbit9541]

Son of Man has alway been the Sun of Earth. In the beginning, there was Heaven (Eve) and Earth (Adam) united as one. They are separated at Sun Rise and are reunited at Sun Down. In Egypt, they were Heaven (Nut) and Earth (Geb). They are separated by Air (Shu) at Sun Rise. Without Shu, we would be in eternal darkness.

[@harveywabbit9541]

@user-em8zx6pb9p The fourth beast was the last quarter of the year, was represented by Aquarius and extended to the spring equinox - the end of the year. This last was a very savage beast, for he trod down the earth, and brake it in pieces, i.e., the year ended with him. He spake against, or opposite to, the Most High (Aries in his zenith), and the saints (summer constellations) were given into his hand "until a time and times and the dividing of time," i.e., until spring, when Daniel's countenance was changed (vs. 28). Though the number ten belongs to God, and the number nine to men (Philo. Judaeus., vol. ii, p. 176), the Man-lion was often figured with but six, to denote the six months intervening between Aquarius and Leo, - see King's Gnostics, p. 200.

[@harveywabbit9541]

@user-em8zx6pb9p The four sons of Reuben (Aquarius) are also the four seasons of the year. One of his sons was Enoch. The writer is using the Zodiac pegged to the age of the Bull. The four seasons were Aquarius, Taurus, Leo, and the Eagle (Scorpio). The "death of Moses (winter solstice in Aquarius) marked the precession of the equinoxes from the Bull to the Ram. The winter solstice moved to Capricorn where we find Zebulun and his ship (Argo navis).

[@MinisterRedPill]

Doesn't contradict itself at all. You just don't know the hidden meaning. There is the Son of Man, and there is _the_ son of man. Just like there is Metatron, and there is _the_ Metatron. Here, I've already said enough.

[@earlysda]

Jesus is the Son of Man.

[@tmilholin7552]

But Doesn't Daniel 7:13 also correlate to Zech 12-14 where The Messiah sets up the everlasting kingdom?

[@brewstercox4714]

The New Jerusalem is about 200.sq. miles large and will await the 1k yrs to arrive and it will need to flatten a whole lot more than mount of olives. If 1 were to walk in His footsteps up to the zoom meeting with Moses & Elijah and read Christs last words in Luke 24:44, then you will know..what Matt.5:17 was saying & Isaiah 8: 19,20.

[@tonycostanzo4276]

its all about JESUS ,ITS JESUS

[@thinkingtogether5328]

There are three distinct characters in this vision: The Ancient of Days, the Most High and the one like a son of man. The Ancient of Days is a different character than the Most High, we can see it clearly in the Verse 22: "...until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the holy people of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom." Jesus is the one who will judge the mankind according to the Christian faith. Jesus called himself the Son of Man to underline his human nature, but he was also called the Son of God on different occasions and he stated about himself: "Before Abraham was, I AM" (John 8:58). He is also the Word of God from the beginning of John's Gospel ("In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God"). In this context of him being the Judge and existing from the very beginnig of time it makes more sence to interpret Jesus in Daniel's vision as the Ancient of Days. In this case the Most High would stand for God, the Ancient of Days for Jesus and the one like a son of man for the saints.

[@Rupunzelsawake]

I think I'm going to enjoy this Lost in Translation series! It's good to take off the Christian interpretative glasses and take an honest look at what the text actually says from someone who actually knows the languages.

[@alexluthiger731]

In John 16 Jesus is talking from the Justice that he is going to the heavenly Father and that we wouldn't see him anymore. What a wonderful Justice that let us see only with a humble heart. 🍷😘

[@danv4046]

He will BE To hIm will be Given Kingdom " until i lay all kingdoms under your feet"

[@clarencehammer3556]

I think what makes people think it refers to Jesus is because it is presented as “THE Son of Man” as if there can be only one such individual and that must be Jesus. The term “Son of Man” always confused me.

[@harveywabbit9541]

Son of Man = Sun of Earth. Son of God = Sun of El/Jupiter (Aries at spring equinox) aka Mesiah/Messiah.

[@TheArmchairPriest]

@@harveywabbit9541this is all baseless word play tbh

[@TheArmchairPriest]

@@harveywabbit9541but i get and agree with the point

[@TheArmchairPriest]

There are many sons of man- seven major ones to be clear. Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus the Lord himself, and Michael the great prince

[@harveywabbit9541]

@@TheArmchairPriest ...and all are fictional characters.

[@WBFbySteefen]

I disagree with your reading at 9:55 - 10:19. The only him in that paragraph is the one like a son of man. The Elohim brought him closer and the Ancient of Days gave him dominion etc. The writer/s of Daniel could have EASILY written: and there before me were ones like children of men, coming with the clouds of heaven. James Tabor is wrong here so that makes this click bait.

[@Frank-st6gd]

Proof of A Pre trib Rapture. Pay Attention to the Cloud and Clouds Jesus appears In and With. Act's chapter 1 verses 9 10 11 Cloud. In Red Luke chapter 21 verses 27 and 28 Jesus is coming In A Cloud the Rapture. In Revelation chapter 1 verse 7 Jesus is coming With the Clouds when he comes back to the Mt of Olive the second coming KJV.

[@georgemooyman7155]

It may not be a physical cloud but a great cloud of witnesses.

[@Frank-st6gd]

@@georgemooyman7155 If it said Clouds with Clouds in A Cloud. It is what it said. If you see it differently that's Up to You.

[@georgemooyman7155]

@Frank-st6gd I "may" as I heard another Bible teacher say that, so thanks.

[@MrWisdomseekr]

You are describing a Post Tribulation Rapture as Matthew 24:29 says.

[@Frank-st6gd]

@MrWisdomseekr If that's how you see it. Have A blessed night Amen 🙏

[@MichaelPiazza-x6f]

Who do people say the Son of Man is?....Mathew 16:13....

[@mysticwanderer4787]

There is a reason Dr. Tabor is recognized by fellow academics as one of the world's leading experts on the Bible and the historical Jesus. I hold a degree in religion and though I do not always agree with his positions I always respect the scholarship his positions represent. In this case, I do agree with Dr. Tabor's position as the only logical explanation of the "son of man" given the texts presented.

[@worldgirl5537]

I thought son of God was someone created directly by God. Adam was created directly by God any children that come from Adam are sons and daughters of man.

[@victoriat8481]

Jesus Y chromosome made him officially God's son. ​@@worldgirl5537

[@No2AI]

What was the purpose of all these prophetic messages if no one is able to explain or understand any ???????

[@lapilulecryptee7518]

You don't understand.. The Romans and behind the romans the Angel of the Lord hijacked the holy spirit and his will got betrayed. Thus a lot of narrative you see in the Bible especially the New Testament are cunning spells designed to trap. There is nothing the modern romans want you to understand as these stories have been written to deflect the truth. The new testament Jesus narrative is a gateway to hell and Jesus plays here as a enabler of it. He is as a double edge sword, those who kill by the sword will find their end by a sword. What i'm trying to say is that 'Jesus' is an ambivalent figure and that there is two Jesus in the Bible and no one see it. One is the fake image of Paul the false prophet, the beast of the earth or roman operative who makes an image to the sea beast, the Christ or the fake roman empire. Yes Paul invented the roman empire and no one see it. He is also Marco 'Polo' the more recent venetian historian. Or the first historian and as a pioneer he is like Odin, the all-father who is also a seer and a prophet.. Or should i say he is like Loki or Satan who after betraying the first will(baldr, the holy spirit) goes to fro all over the earth to gather the multitudes of Gog and Magog for the Ragnarok or Armageddon. The other Jesus is the son of man, the man who will resurrect after the end of Mankind or during the Ragnarok, thus called the Son of Man the one who will come after Man.. This Jesus is actually the Lamb who has been slained from the very beginning by the humanity of Cain-Seth and also Loki. The Lamb is the truth and only the truth is worthy to open the scroll.. He also warn the people that after John the Baptist(or the Man thus Jesus who follow after him is called the son of Man), it is the violent who will trample the kingdom of heaven aka the people(Gentiles or not)of Paul. Thus the 'Jesus' or the Lord who talked and asked Paul 'Why hath you persecute me ?' is the angel of the Lord or the lord God of Genesis, the deceiver, the serpent of Old aka Loki. Who will deceive the people exactly by the 'Christ' ideology of Paul Gospel. There is nothing to understand in confusion as it is as you can see a slaughter.. בֶּ֙רַע֙

[@mikev4621]

to confound the simple

[@roberthawes3093]

This interpretation makes a great deal of sense given the fact that, in Genesis, man is clearly depicted as God's viceroy over the earth. A son of man being given the kingdom after judgment has forcibly taken it back from the hands of rebels is perfectly consistent with that imagery.

[@telmeeeh]

With all due respect to Mr. Tabor... The bible specified that it is the Lord Jesus Christ who will return (a.k.a. "The Day of the Lord") to end man's rule, judge the nations/people (Matthew 25:31-46; Revelation 1:10-18), and become King of Israel and the world (Zechariah 14 :9). Note that He admitted to Pilate that He is "King of the Jews" (Matt. 27:11, 42; John 18:37) and Pilate himself believed it (John 19:19). There are so many verses supporting the return of Jesus the Messiah, but I'll just cite some. When Jesus was resurrected, just before His ascension, the disciples asked Him if He is going to restore the kingdom to Israel. He said to them, "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by His own authority..." Then the disciples looked up into the sky as Jesus was going, suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them saying, “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same JESUS, who has been taken from you into heaven, WILL COME BACK in the SAME WAY you have seen him go into heaven” (Acts 1:10-11). According to Hebrews 9:28, "so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and He will appear a SECOND TIME, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him." During Jesus Christ's ministry, He told His disciples about the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem, His return and the end of age. As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the SIGN OF YOUR COMING and of the end of the age?" Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Messiah,' and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains. Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come... For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now-and never to be equaled again. If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Messiah!' or, 'There he is!' do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you ahead of time. So if anyone tells you, 'There he is, out in the wilderness,' do not go out; or, 'Here he is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather. Immediately after the distress of those days 'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.' Then will appear the sign of the SON OF MAN in the sky. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory (Matthew 24:3-14, 21-30). He was the one referred to by Prophet John the Beloved in Revelations 1:7, "Look, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even THOSE WHO PIERCED HIM; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of Him." Jesus said, "Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what He has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the end... I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches (Revelation 22:12, 16)... In the earlier chapter, He said, "Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was DEAD, and behold I am alive for ever and ever (Revelation 1:17-18). Prophet John the Beloved wrote, "He who testifies to these things says, 'Yes, I am coming soon.' Amen. Come, Lord Jesus" (Revelation 22:20). Finally, looking at Jerusalem, Jesus said, "Look, your house is left to you desolate. For I tell you, you will NOT SEE ME AGAIN until you say, 'Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord" (Matthew 23:38-39). On that day, His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives (Zechariah 14:4) to destroy Jerusalem's enemies. The Book of Revelation supports this. Here, He was the one described as the "rider on the white horse" who is being followed by the armies of heaven (19:14). With justice He judges and makes war (19:11). Out of His mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down nations and He will rule them with an iron scepter (19:15; Psalm 2:9). He is called "Faithful and True" (19:11), His name is "Word of God" (19:13; John 1:1), and "King of Kings and Lord of Lords (19:16), and whom the beast and the kings of the earth will make war against (19:19) but will suffer defeat in a "no contest" fashion (19:20-21). Some people may not acknowledge the deity of Jesus Christ but His day that I mentioned above will come when every knee will bow to Him, those in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue will say that Jesus Christ is "Lord" to the glory of God the Father (Philippians 2:10-11).

[@tsemayekekema2918]

Something a bit pedantic, I'll disagree and propose that the Great Sea isn't specifically the Mediterranean - but the MYTHICAL Universal Sea surrounding all continents in pre-Hellenistic Near Eastern thought

[@robsellars9338]

How about the cosmic sea as we are talking about the Jewish Merkabah chariot in this vision. Ideally this vision should be compared to Ezekiels vision of the same thing

[@tsemayekekema2918]

@@robsellars9338 I was referring to the Cosmic sea

[@BobbyHill26]

I don’t know about at the turn of the era, but the Greeks also believed that the land was surrounded by water. They thought it was a huge river, if I remember correctly, but close enough

[@tsemayekekema2918]

@@BobbyHill26 yh, you're partially right. However, the Hellenistic discovery of the sphericality of the planet earth since as far back as Socrates/Pythagoras complicates the Hellenistic picture. Have you ever heard of the concept of Antipode?

[@BobbyHill26]

@@tsemayekekema2918 I’m familiar, but best I remember, they didn’t believe there was land on the other side, or were at least doubtful. Early Christians at the very least didn’t believe in a populated antipodal landmass because that would have required them to also have a Jesus for salvation. And Dante had the mountain of purgatory being antipodal to Jerusalem, caused by the impact of Lucifer being cast out of heaven if I remember correctly. I don’t know if Dante thought that was actually the case, but it does show that they didn’t think there was anything there but a lot of water. A great, all encompassing mass of water really worked for European ideas all the way until Columbus stumbled across the Americas and even lots of Christians today still think of the oceans as primordial. I don’t really know enough of ancient Hebrew cosmology, but did they have the idea that there was a surrounding body of water? Or was it just that you would reach the firmament which was holding back the primordial water while still on dry land. I’ve really not done any reading on the subject, but I can’t recall any indication of a surrounding body of water within the firmament.

[@landonmccloy5924]

Any opinion on the Cepher Scriptures? Thanks in advance!

[@randatatang9222]

James Tabor should not go anywhere near the bible. He completely messes up the whole prophecy as he fails to make the case the Jesus is not the same as the son of man or at least that the son of man is not a reference of the Messiah. It's a shame, Tabor will support any anti Christian conspiracy

[@harveywabbit9541]

The son of man and the son of god is the same SUN.

[@tshwenyegomakhaza1263]

Thank you Dr Tabor for your explanation. May The Almighty give you more insight into His Word.

[@gatlinsamples]

Matthew 24: 3-30

[@RedRoosterRoman]

@10:24 exactly... We are the body of Christ through theosis. Christ is our corporate head and the 12 right now sit on thrones and rule. I dont see a contradiction with Catholic/Orthodox interpretation. The judgment to the "world" (which you well know also means "land") Fits with the destruction of Jerusalem. Orchestrated by Christ. Who indeed... Is fully human. (That does not refute the hypostatic union) Josephus saw the heavenly host at the fall of Jerusalem. In the clouds. He... A jew... Recorded this. That is why Orhtodox and Catholics pray to God with the Saints... As the kingdom is in theor hands.

[@RedRoosterRoman]

This draws a false dichotomy between Christ and His bride. They are one flesh. The rock is Christ, and Peter, and the Church Catholic. As revelation says in two places: "He (Christ) will rule with a rod of iron" "her seed (Christ) is to rule with a rod of iron. But he was caught up to the throne of Heaven " And yet to the Thratians: "(To the churches that keep the faith) I will grant him to rule with a *rod of iron* as when clay pots are broken (OT allusion to destruction of Jerusalem). With all authority just as the Father gave me authority" This happened. The Church rules with the rod that destroyed Jerusalem... He is the vine we are the branches. It is not an "either Christ or the Church" It is both/and. God bless

[@AhmarClark]

This man is wrong! Use your discernment here. Even if you don't understand don't substitute another man's understanding.

[@Robert-jp4oi]

What part is he wrong about

[@uncuttfunk]

What you’re telling people not to do is exactly what you’re doing …believing what you’ve been programmed to believe. Religion is regarded by the common as true, by the wise as false, & by rulers as useful - Seneca the Younger 65AD

[@AhmarClark]

@@uncuttfunk said nothing about religion

[@truliecole5107]

It's all a letter of a plan of past, present and future plan that was a lot of both but yet divided John 3:17

[@joshuatree3106]

He is completely wrong? I would seek THE LORD about this if you are truly humble I want to know the truth. son of man in the bible is not referring to JESUS ALMIGHTY LORD. This brother might not be correct that son of man is collectively the saints of GOD ( if I understand him correctly) but when they say son of man in the Word of GOD is not who people think it is. It's very clear in the Word. People must be willing to let go of the teachings they have been taught and seek FATHER with a humble heart and HE will reveal The Truth to us. It's all up to us :) GOD bless and love you

[@vikingdemonpr]

Can we get that doc in PDF?

[@ryanrevland4333]

The striking thing is that whenever son of man is used in the Hebrew Bible its usualy to depict a weak human as opposed to a strong god. Like God saying "listen here puny human".

[@robsellars9338]

Yes this is correct and so it's unusual - as you say! Its precisely because it's unusual that we need to look deeper into its meaning using QBLH. One of the rules to spotting a section of QBLH in the Hebrew text is whenever a contradiction in the text occurs. Here we have a word that should not be there. How can a man be flying around the cosmos in the Merkabah chariot? So this description is an allegory for something else. Well spotted!

[@shimshonbendan8730]

Not true, not true at all. In fact, what you said is a total lie. Daniel 7:14 mentions the Son of Man. This is the only place in the Bible where "Bar Enesh" is used. Bar Enesh is an Aramaic term. If man were speaking Hebrew and suddenly inserted an Aramaic term, the listener would realize that the phrase "son of man" was not an idiom, but something quite different, suggesting a title. Daniel definitely was no saying that Bar Enesh is a weak human being. You have the voice of a lying spirit and I believe you are here to mislead people.

[@ryanrevland4333]

@@shimshonbendan8730 You’ve misunderstood. I didn't say Daniel was using “Son of Man” to convey a weak human being. I'm talking about its usage in other books. Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that He would lie, Nor a son of man, that He would change His mind Job 25:6 How much less man, that maggot, And a son of man, that worm! Isaiah 51:12 I Myself, am He who comforts you. Who are you that you are afraid of mortal man, And of a son of man who is made like grass

[@bertlorenz4252]

What are your thoughts about the ten toes from Daniel 2 being represented by the ten provinces from former Yugoslavia?

[@harveywabbit9541]

Ten is a perfect number, like in the ten lost constellations aka Taurus thru Virgo and Scorpio thus Pisces. The found ones are Aries and Libra.

[@byronumphress3805]

@4252 GOLD HEAD, CALIFORNIA NEW MEXICO KANAS DETROIT ONE FOOT, NEW YORK THERE ARE 14 STATES ON THE EAST COAST , TOES MY THOUGHT, SHALOM

[@TORAH-613]

Lol, jezus ain't coming back for anything. FLEE IDOLATRY

[@effdonahue6595]

Ok Devy!! 😈🔥🚀

[@harveywabbit9541]

Jesus is directly over my house. It's time for mid-day lunch.

[@lukeouthwaite9999]

Your false Levantine deity is being exposed for what it is too. :)

[@jerialice]

I think I have one of your old books. Were you in Castell at some point?

[@shaunfriley219]

Brother, you are completely wrong about your understanding on Daniel. Absolutely none of what Daniel sees are literal things. The great Sea is not a body of water. The Sea is referred to as the Gentile World. You are teaching people completely wrong. It is not at all talking about the Mediterranean Sea.

[@mikev4621]

Jewish stories often operate at two, or even three, levels

[@SAVANNAHEVENTS]

Precisely. Dont hear about that from most historians.​@@mikev4621

[@RickPeake01]

The title is quite correct. May the truth be shown unto his faithful believers..

[@JukeBoxDestroyer]

you've become little more than a heretical click-bait merchant. how unfortunate.

[@harveywabbit9541]

The Eagle, Aquila constellation is very famous. This birdie carried Moses/Ganymede to Mt. Sina/Mt. Olympus (summer solstice). Exodus 19.4. Yes, this "Eagle" is Zeus/Jupiter/Indra.

[@renee1741]

What you are saying just seems to confirm everything I leaned about Jesus and what he said about himself... but it is interesting to hear your discussion.

[@ItsMeNanaD71]

Is this from the Septuagint? Christians freak out when they find out the true root words like SORCERY being PHARMA & Elohim being GodS - PLURAL GODS: they seem to forget the 1st Commandment is to worship no Gods above The Almighty….fully telling us there are multiple gods. Oh we have so much to learn.

[@dissidentfairy4264]

I'm sorry Dr. Tabor, I can't agree with you on this one but I do appreciate your videos.

[@harveywabbit9541]

"In the first year of Belshazzar, Daniel saw a dream in the night" (winter). Belshazzar was, as we have seen, the winter Sun, winter being the night of the year, when Daniel (Aries) comes to his meridian. The four winds answer to the four cardinal points, as also the four great beasts," or the cherubim. The time being about the winter solstice, when the Lion would be seen to rise in the evening, as the Sun sets in Aquarius. This lion-like beast, or Man-lion, had eagle's wings, and may be seen pictured in Joseph Bonomi's Nineveh, p. 251, and in other books. Daniel looked at this beast (Leo) until the Eagle's wings were plucked, i.e., until the Eagle rose, and " was lifted up from the earth; when, lo, a second beast (Scorpio), like to a Bear (Ursa major; on the meridian in April, and hence the comparison), raised itself on one side," i.e., on the south side of the equator, where Scorpio rises as a paranatellon of the Eagle. The three ribs constitute its symbol, or sign shown by three downward strokes, connected at the top like the letter m. The devouring of much flesh is characteristic of winter, which begins when the Sun enters Scorpio. The third "great beast," which Daniel thought, or imagined, he saw, was like a leopard, or better, tiger, since the root of the original word means to stripe. This third beast, then, refers to summer, beginning at the summer solstice, when the Sun rises and sets in Cancer, and Aquarius rises soon after sunset. The leopard, tiger and lion are natives of the hot climates, and hence properly typify summer, whose sky is usually overspread with small clouds, scattered here and there like the spots on a leopard. Hence Indra, the Indian Jupiter and the Hebrew Lord, is represented sitting upon a leopard or tiger's skin. This beast had upon its hack, the four wings (winds) of a fowl (" what flies, floats " = the atmosphere during the year (see Fuerst’s Heb. Lex., p. 1027), and also four heads (the four quarters of the year). "Dominion was given to it" (vs. 6). "The law,’ it will be remembered, was promulgated from Mount Sinai, or the summer solstice.

[@KendraAndTheLaw]

Well, make a case.

[@dissidentfairy4264]

@@KendraAndTheLaw I'm sorry Kendra but my reply to you has been deleted twice. I'm not allowed to make a case. I've been silenced.

[@byronumphress3805]

VIEW IT WITH THE THIRD DEITY OF THE HOLY TRINITY JOHN 14:26 🕊 SHALOM

[@angelmeyers1455]

What about where Josephus, the Jewish historian, records, and I'll paraphrase, that horses pulling chariots with riders was seen in the skies above Jerusalem and a great war was fought? Another historian also records this being seen in the skies..is it supposed to be taken literal or does it mean something else?

[@tyronecox5976]

Josephus Bar Matthias aka Titus Flavius Josephus,Bar meaning son Matthias means gift of God, Titus's Pen names, another one was Arrius Piso Arrius means immortal Pistis means faith A O Alpha and Omega,lol, Pontius Pilate Pontius meaning God of the sea Pilate meaning armed with a dart,classic,Titus said Jesus Lucifer was screaming out My God my God why have you forsaken me,read psalm 68/69 where he's got David in the mire,water entering his Soul,Bibles not a religious book, it's the book of life and prophecies.

[@tyronecox5976]

Septuagint LXX 70 the year Titus promised to return to slaughter all House of David Satan, Holy Roman Empire render to Caesar what is Caesars because he who creates owns, Titus was the Chrestus author of All biblical scripture, Archangel Micheal Clements who fathers the Chrestus Titus, Vespasian,why he's always in Roman Armour with a sword,they have everybody worshipping the Antichrist just like Enoch says they would.

[@kathy1154]

Chariot was the generic term for vehicle. People wrote what they saw. I saw a chariot (vehicle) in the sky, I saw an ephod (round disc) in the sky, I saw a vessel descend/ascend, and the much older versions... he rode across the heavens upon a "cloud" (that lights up)🤔 They are literally describing aerial transportation. The "horses" were retrofitted in by the scribes... much later... to godsplain, and make the event supernatural (mythological). HERE'S THE FAILED PROPHECY JESUS Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, THERE ARE SOME STANDING HERE, WHICH SHALL NOT TASTE DEATH, TILL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN COMING... 13:26 and then ye shall see the son of man coming in the CLOUDS ... Mark 14:62 and Jesus said, "I am: and YE SHALL SEE THE SON OF MAN SITTING ON THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER, AND COMING IN THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN" PAUL I Thesolonians 4:14 WE WHICH ARE ALIVE, AND REMAIN UNTO THE COMING OF THE LORD 4:17 then we the living, who remain over, shall, together with them, be caught away in the CLOUDS THE "RETURN" OF JESUS Revelations 1:7 Behold he cometh on CLOUDS 14:14 And I looked and behold a white CLOUD, and upon the CLOUD, one sat like unto the son of man. 2:18 These things saith the son of God 2:23 And I will KILL HER CHILDREN WITH DEATH 8:9 The third of the creatures which were in the sea, and have life, died 11:6 Power over the waters to turn them into blood, and smite the earth with all plagues (bioweapons) as often as they will. 16:3 Poured out his vial upon the sea, and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul in the sea died. WOW, WORSHIPPING GUYS THAT FLY AROUND ON "CLOUDS" MURDERING CHILDREN, FISH, AND SPREADING BIOWEAPONS. FLYING ON "CLOUDS" Definitely NOT a UFO cult 😉 Exodus 16:10 YHWH appeared in the CLOUD Numbers 11:25 YHWH came down in a CLOUD Leviticus 16:2I will appear in the CLOUD upon my mercy seat (even comes equipped with a captain's chair) 24:18 Moses went into the midst of the CLOUD and gat him up into the mount II Kings 2:1 YHWH would take Elijah up into heaven by a whirlwind 2:11 And there appeared a chariot of fire... and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven Psalms 104:3 Maketh the CLOUDS his chariot, who walketh upon the wings of the wind 68:17 The chariots of God are twenty thousand Ezekiel 8:3 The spirit lifted me up between heaven and earth and brought me... Jerusalem Psalms 18:10 He rode upon a cherub and he did fly, yea he did fly upon the wings of the wind Luke 9:34 There came a CLOUD and overshadowed them, and they feared as they entered into the CLOUD Acts 10:11 Saw heaven opened and a certain vessel descending unto him 10:16 And the vessel was received up again 11:5 A certain vessel descend... and it came unto me 11:10 Drawn up again into heaven Zechariah 5:1 And I turned and lifted up mine eyes, and behold a flying roll. 5:2 And he said unto me, 'what seest thou?' And I answered 'I see a flying roll: the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits 5:3 He said unto me 'this is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the earth' 5:5 "Lift up now thine eyes and see what is this that goeth forth?" 5:6 And I said "what is it?" "This is an ephah that goeth forth" He said moreover "this is there resemblance through all the earth" 5:7(ISV) Look, a sound lead cover was being lifted, and there was a woman seated inside. 5:9 Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and behold, there came out two women...and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven 5:10 Then said I to the angel that talked with me "whither do these bear the ephah?" 5:10 And he said unto me "to build an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set upon her own base." 6:1 And I turned and lifted up mine eyes and looked, and behold, there came (emerged) four chariots from between two mountains, and the mountains were mountains of brass Acts 1:9 He was taken up, and a CLOUD received him out of their sight 1:11 Jesus, which was taken up from you into heaven shall so come in the like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven Legend of the Jews 1&2 by Rabbi Ginsburg pg 521 "All the children of Israel were transported thither on CLOUDS, and after they had eaten of the sacrifice, they were carried back to Egypt in the same way

[@angelmeyers1455]

@@kathy1154 thanks for replying to my question I do appreciate the time effort you took.

[@angelmeyers1455]

@@tyronecox5976 Wow, it was just a question, but thanks for taking the time to reply.

[@johnmann8659]

Daniel 7:13-14 has to be Jesus. “If the Jewish people do not merit redemption, the Messiah will come lowly upon a donkey. If the Jewish people do merit redemption, the Messiah will come upon the clouds of heaven.” Sanhedrin 98A, Talmud Arrival via donkey: Zechariah 9:9 Matthew 21:2-11 Arrival via clouds: Daniel 7:13-14 Luke 21:27 “Next time you’ll see me via the clouds”. Matthew 26:64-> Revelation 1:7 The end times generation is the generation of Jews that merit redemption (when the Messiah arrives via the clouds). Deuteronomy 4:30-31 Hosea 3:5 Zechariah 13:1 The generation of Jews that do not merit the redemption (Messiah arrives via a donkey) is the generation that needs a New Covenant that provides atonement for its sins. Ezekiel 16:59-63-> Luke 22:20

[@marktravis5162]

Yeah it’s Jesus, very obvious

[@colinmilton8823]

Messiah is any generation that goes not to war, nor begets war for the future generation

[@johnmann8659]

@@colinmilton8823 If that’s true, why does the Messiah conquer Israel’s enemies? Zechariah 14:1-5 Hebrews 6:20-> Psalm 110:4-7 Revelation 19:11-16-> Isaiah 63:1-6 1 Chronicles 29:29-> Gad the Seer 9:19

[@harveywabbit9541]

@@colinmilton8823 Son of Man = Sun of Earth. Son of God = Sun of El/Jupiter (Aries at spring equinox) aka Mesiah/Messiah. The Messiah has always been the spring sun who comes with healing in his wings.

[@harveywabbit9541]

@@johnmann8659 Gad is Aries at the spring equinox. Copied from the Latin Fortuna.

[@dammitjanet4441]

Which bible translation is closest to the ancient Greek version?

[@lorrainemagarian2677]

KJV Authorized Version

[@playlist1697]

Yeah James missed this one.. he sounds like Tovia Singer

[@atarahchomah1463]

BIG TIME!!!!! if one reads the following verse in Mark14:63, the High Priest tore his clothes and cried Blasphemy! (v 64). It is very clear when Yeshua said to the High Priest that he would see The Son of Man in the clouds, Yeshua was claiming to be G-D. There is a book called ' The Two Powers in Heaven' by Alan Siegel, a non believing Jew. Mr. Siegel said the Ancient Israelites were very familiar with the Two Powers in Heaven concept, Dr Michael Heiser does a nice job covering this as well. this is disappointing. shouldn't surprise me.... Sign of the Times....

[@byronumphress3805]

THE HOLY TRINITY ! SHALOM

[@oliviahodges5161]

The mystery of God is the voice of God - The Holy Bible

[@alexluthiger731]

The mystery of the Spirit of God is in its Word which can be found as well in books that found no entry into the wonderful book collection of the holy Bible. The holy Spirit of God blows whereever it pleases him.

[@pwal888]

Complete twisting of what Messiah said plainly!!! This is complete perversion!

[@Jamie-Russell-CME]

I love how everyone assumes Dr.Tabor's agenda. "NO, he is for my view!"

[@ervinlayne8988]

You need to repent for this accusation, God will not be mocked. Jesus the Son of Man was crucified raised from the dead and returned to heaven and will be the God that judges the world. You are deliberately deceiving people, repent

[@ChristianCarrizales]

Very good analysis. It wasn’t until I read the Hebrew Bible in its context and without a filter that I realized that Daniel 7 isn’t talking about a Messianic figure at all. It’s very clearly referring to the people of Israel as a corporate entity. A “human being” as opposed to the empires before that are ravenous beasts.

[@ConsideringPhlebas]

There is no explicit identification of the Daniel 7 'one like a son of man' with the nation of Israel or the people of God, unlike the beasts with earthly kingdoms. Even historical-critical ("contextual") scholarship nowadays generally acknowledges that the 'one like a son of man' in Daniel is an angelic or heavenly being. This is supported by language used in the text to describe angels. Compare for example, Daniel 7:13: "behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like a son of man" with the following: Daniel 8:15: "behold, there stood before me one having the appearance of a man." (i.e., Gabriel) Daniel 10:16: "behold, one in the likeness of the children of man touched my lips." Daniel 10:18: "one having the appearance of a man touched me and strengthened me." In Ezekiel's vision, even God Himself is described in much the same way, Ezekiel 1:26: "upon the likeness of the throne was a likeness as the appearance of a man"

[@adedaporh]

​@@ConsideringPhlebas "There is no explicit identification of... son of man... with the people of God." Are you serious? When Daniel asks for the meaning of the vision from "... one of those who stood there," he was told that the beasts represents 4 evil kingdoms and the people of God "shall receive the kingdom and possess the kingdom forever, forever and ever." Since we only have 2 classes of beings on the visions: the beasts and one like a son of man, it is clear that the interpreter identifies this later with the people of God. Furthermore, in verse 27a, the interpreter reiterates that the people of God will possess the kingdom forever but in 27b he switches to the singular pronoun to pretty much say the same thing and thus providing a callback to the identification of the people of God to the "one like a son of man" figure.

[@Jesus_Disciples]

It is Jesus. Definitely Jesus. Jesus even quoted it about himself when questioned. Another nonsense teaching that will no doubt do it's rounds before being proven wrong.

[@rtotalexvii612]

In books by unknown authors probably written at least 45 years after his earthly ministry, yes

[@dissidentfairy4264]

I agree with you that it's definitely referring to Jesus. He said it himself. I don't know how much clearer it has to be.

[@EvilXtianity]

@@dissidentfairy4264 _"He said it himself."_ Jesus is a fictional character. You know none of the Gospel authors witnessed Jesus, right?

[@EvilXtianity]

@sonia____02 _"All Gospel authors were disciples of Jesus Christ."_ Provide a scholarly source demonstrating: 1. The Gospel authors witnessed Jesus. 2. The Gospels were written prior to 70 AD. 3. The Gospels were written by the persons they are presently attributed to.

[@EvilXtianity]

​@sonia____02 _"All Gospel authors were disciples of Jesus Christ."_ Bart Ehrman (world's foremost New Testament scholar): "Mythicists' arguments are fairly plausible. Jesus was never mentioned in any Roman sources and there is no archeological evidence that Jesus ever existed. Even Christian sources are problematic - the Gospels come long after Jesus' death, written by people who never saw the man."

[@pgsibilo]

3:33 WRONG! The Little Horn is Pagan Rome which transformed into Papal Rome and now continues in the Vetican.

[@danielkim240]

The Sign of the Son of Man(Matt.24:30) is referring to Matt.12:40. Son of Man 3 days and 3 nights. Jesus died on Wednesday and resurrected on Sunday in 30 AD. This is the Sign of the Son of Man. Ezekiel 1:1 is the prophecy of the date of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. April 5th, 30 AD. Jesus is building the New Jerusalem for 3000 yrs AD30~AD3030. We must wake up.

[@benjaminwayland8402]

The Only Unforgivable sin Is "NOT to ASK" Yeshua/Jesus to Forgive your sins from your heart while U still have breath, is Blasphemy. Please don't gamble with your eternal SOUL Hell is real, Yeshua/Jesus is our Escape!!! The Soul Powers the Heart!

[@Statute387]

Isaiah 43:11 KJV 11 I, even I, am the Lord; and BESIDE ME THERE IS NO SAVIOUR.

[@atmanbrahman1872]

Your interpretation is very tenuous and specious.

[@davashorb6116]

Thanks for putting this and other scripture in its proper context.