The Smashing Pumpkins - Cherub Rock (REACTION!)

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[@jakeellman7447]

Siamese Dream has probably the single best guitar tone from the 90’s you guys gotta check out the song mayonnaise from this album

[@GeoffVentures]

Also soma

[@ryukan250]

@@GeoffVentures That's surely their best song. Definitely Billy's best guitar solo ever and immaculate composition of soft to heavy dynamics, only rivalled by Mayonaise.

[@GOTNOMANNERS]

Dirt says hi

[@pamelahinchee8012]

Yes! Mayonnaise!

[@balladofthebroken7569]

Mayonnaise!!!!!

[@partycakes456]

Almost 30 years of listening to Cherub Rock, and that guitar solo still gives me goosebumps every time.

[@scotscub76]

Oh hell yes!

[@stevenclark1624]

Yeah the guitar solo is sick, typical Billy :)

[@jjclaws]

One of my all time favourites!

[@lucaswallo8127]

woah haha

[@JoyGrenade]

There's something about the way it flanges in the middle that just kills me. That combination of Corgan, Wallace, and Vig was absolute dynamite.

[@baTonkaTruck]

The drummer Jimmy Chamberlain really shines on this one. Listen to the way he supplements and reinforces the vocal and guitar timing. Absolute genius on the drums.

[@tbd407]

yes

[@whatdothlife4660]

I thinky Billy's talent would have created hit records no matter what but combined with Jimmy it's just otherworldy good.

[@jeremysullivan4095]

Glad you guys could hear the influence The Smashing Pumpkins had on the Deftones.

[@biggred333]

Oh wow, interesting connection

[@newartmov]

I don't think Chino has ever said that SP was an influence but it sure the F is....

[@newartmov]

They sure the F were I mean..

[@OGMrWayne]

@@biggred333 Very interseting, I do hear it though.

[@fhdz22]

Check out narrow head

[@jsblaze112]

"Mayonaise" from this album is my favorite song of the 90s. Something about it man, maybe it's nostalgia, just elicits an emotional response every time.

[@mj011n1r]

Great tune. I remember this album coming out. Everyone loved it. They could do every song.

[@leetrengove]

Aint no nostlagia, thats timeless

[@drowssapma]

Brings me back to a day with all of my friends in the car and we were ALL singing this song loud heading to a Pantera concert. The 90's was really something special.

[@par32]

Soma is great too

[@michaeltorris5675]

Word

[@ChrisPuckett]

Try being 17 when this came out in high school, and it blew everybody’s mind. And then going to see them in concert on their first national tour. One of the greatest rock albums of all time. You had this album, Nirvana Nevermind, Red Hot Chili Peppers blood sugar sex magik, Soundgarden, and Pearl Jam all on the radio at the same time with their first albums. Pretty much the greatest time in music history to be alive.

[@efester]

Crazy to think Nevermind and BSSM were both released on the same day. Plus a Tribe Called Quest released Low End Theory. 24th September 1991 has to be one of the best single days for important albums.

[@danflak2370]

You got that right brother!!

[@philt5398]

You forgot Alice in chains 🤘😂

[@adjess25]

Agreed

[@johnpatrick5071]

@@philt5398 and STP

[@charlestillmanTV]

Ayy! This single was released 29 years ago today! I’m Black AND grew up in the hood… but I actually was really into “Alternative Rock” as a teenager during the 1990’s and I loved this band. I saw The Pumpkins twice on tour for this album in 1994 - always the only black kid at the shows. Haha. Of course, the homeboys made fun of me for listening to this type of music back then, but I knew these cats had that groove. It’s cool to see younger generation of kids digging this stuff now. Peace!

[@knittingnickel]

🙌🙌 I'm impressed and jealous!! Twice!! That's amazing!

[@bobthebear1246]

That's great. Much love.

[@rbrearey]

This album is a 90s masterpiece. Remember, this was the album’s OPENER!

[@anon17472]

@@smdwillis you are free to hold your own opinion, but please know that it's wrong

[@JWatson5290]

@@smdwillis cap. It's a dope album

[@eseguerito2629]

@@smdwillisI was gonna say something rude and snarky but instead, i wanna know. What do you consider a masterpiece? I mean from this era/genre? I genuinely wanna know.

[@lovingameria]

@@smdwillisno one agrees with you

[@lrodmanMT]

F*** yes my dudes! Siamese Dream is legit a Top 10 rock album of all time in imo... This is the opening track and was the single, simply one of their best straight rock tunes. My favorite on the album is probably 'Hummer', sort of an epic jam. Though if I had to suggest one more song of theirs for you guys, its probably 'Today'. This album is absolute lightning in bottle / once in a generation kinda stuff, known for it's super heavy layered guitars... they overdubbed like 30 guitars or something ridiculous for this track I think. First album is not as good, but if you want a track from there make it 'Rhinoceros'. Thanks for checkin out one of my favorite bands!

[@joemahma420]

Yeah anything after SD just feels overproduced with no soul :/

[@danielreichert6781]

Well said. I sometimes forget how amazing this album is.

[@randolphcarterjr]

'Hummer' is also my favorite! I also think it's the song that would most appeal to Ryan and George as it has the big riffy vibey sound that they appreciated on this one.

[@richarddukard8989]

I think the 30 guitars was for Soma

[@belewda]

"they overdubbed like 30 guitars" is not a fucking positive. I mean, that's like saying "they couldn't play shit right the first 29 times." Smashing Pumpkins were always shit... thanks for pointing out how trash they were.

[@BigNate78]

Jimmy is one of the best drummers to ever live. Without debate.

[@spencerific93]

My favorite off this album is "Hummer". So many different riffs in that song, but it all stitches together so well.

[@cass2303]

Yes! Same.

[@futurereflections4097]

That’s one of my least favorite, but that just goes to show how good this album is.

[@Dexton0742]

COMPLETLY agree. Hummer is just great

[@revolutionday1]

Soma

[@anon17472]

Mine too, the bend at .55 gives me chills every time

[@thegoatchild3545]

It's true Billy Corgan's voice takes some getting used to guys, but the Pumpkins made A LOT of fantastic rock music. His guitar tone in this era was really something else, and he's also a great lyricist, so keep an open mind. 👍😉 Grunge was just the common term used for the Seattle scene of the early '90s and the Pumpkins really weren' t part of it as they are a Chicago band. I recommend Geek USA, Mayonnaise and Soma.👍

[@thesound-chameleonman3580]

he sounds very similar to Gaz Coombes of Supergrass.

[@timduval7159]

Soma is easily my favorite song by the pumpkins, pumped to see you mention it with some other fantastic songs 🤘

[@SaulmanPhishbass]

and the 2000s SP sound is probably among the most underrated

[@Jah6r]

Well, tbf alot of bands with this type of sound were classified as grunge and some still are

[@mike.monaco]

Could not have said it better. This is exactly how I explain it to first time listeners. And also probably the trifecta of next songs they need to check out. Starting with geek USA. They will love those transitions and JC

[@jasenschoales8847]

Mayonnaise my absolute favorite off Siamese Dream. I listened to NOTHING else but this album for an entire summer and even now 30 years later one of my all time fav albums

[@UKInfamousElite]

Same. Summer of '93 I believe. Damn near didn't leave my tape deck for the rest of the year lol

[@Posirep]

amazing that the iconic "squeal " in the chorus is simply cuz Billy recorded it with a shitty, broken guitar lol

[@christrue6039]

'1979' definitely should be listened to. Maybe try 'Disarm' as well, but that one does go back in parts to his more nasally form..

[@adamworden9014]

Disarm is incredible and kind of soul shattering. If you had a bad childhood it really "gets" you.

[@johnmavroudis2054]

"1979" is incredible... just a mesmerizing song.

[@dougsanders7291]

The number of ridiculously awesome albums that came out around ‘93 is astounding.

[@jordinaidoo1729]

Could you give some recommendations 😊

[@user-me9in1yu6s]

The 90s was a phenomenal era for not only Rock but music in general.

[@user-me9in1yu6s]

​@@jordinaidoo1729 Some amazing rock albums from the 90s would be anything from Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam's Black, Stone Temple Pilots' Core and Purple, The Cranberries' No Need To Argue, The Smashing Pumpkins' Siamese Dream, Slipknot's Slipknot, Mudvayne's LD 50, Korn's Korn, Nirvana's Nevermind, Soundgarden's Superunknown and even the Black Album from Metallica isn't bad. You can't go wrong giving these albums a chance.

[@monkeyfarm]

more from this album: try 'Rocket' and 'Geek USA'.

[@priiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick]

Geek USA is a top 5 90's rock song for me. You guys wanna hear some BANANAS drumming, Geek USA is where to go.

[@17mountains]

And Hummer.

[@johnswanger8474]

Or... Siamese Dream, am'I'right?

[@reggaeluv2000]

Hummer & Geek USA for sure!

[@deathonskates]

Geek USA the best

[@3xclusiv3sodak]

Drown is my favorite of theirs, but Mayonaise is the Magnum Opus of Smashing Pumpkins imo

[@JD_Slacker]

Yes it is!

[@GapToothBitch]

Mayonaise is the song I go back to the most, my favourite of theirs. 1979 is a classic as well, best nostalgic feeling song for me

[@ryukan250]

Soma is their masterpiece imo

[@3xclusiv3sodak]

@@ryukan250 my top three are Drown, Mayonaise, Soma

[@davidcoleman1470]

Gish album is a masterpiece and needs to be listened to in its entirety.

[@CaptnTrips]

The drumming and guitars on Gish are seriously next-level!

[@craig4970]

For me they came out at the very top with Gish, slowly went downhill from there. Every song on Gish is perfect

[@CaptnTrips]

@@craig4970 that's awesome! For me, I love the grittiness of Gish, the "wall of sound" on SD and the heart-wrenching angst and anger of MCIS.

[@Boombat818]

@@craig4970 nah. they definitely got better from there

[@craig4970]

@@Boombat818 Agree to disagree my friend, great band and for me it gets absolutely no better than Gish. They cut their hair after that album and their magic was swept away with the hair lol

[@wolmarrrrr]

That riff is a 90's sunny landscape, smell of the sea, soothed soul. That's how iconic it is to me.

[@THEDEEPDIVE]

Fyi: jimmy chamberlin is a god on the drums. In the same realm of greatness as Danny from Tool.. but a different style. Comes from a jazz background. Drummers typically love Geek USA on this album for the drum performance but it also has all those transitions that you guys dig.

[@dgh8220]

I have always thought the drums on Geek USA was the actual lead instrument. Everything else was there to support them.

[@THEDEEPDIVE]

@@dgh8220 yep. When we did geek usa on my channel I made a big deal about the drums. My cohost who usually doesn't listen for that was pretty blown away.

[@dgh8220]

@@THEDEEPDIVE I have subscribed and found that video, can't wait to see your take on it.

[@THEDEEPDIVE]

@@dgh8220 awesome. Hope to see you in the comments there.

[@Jaspertine]

My favourite understated Chamberlin performance is on Muzzle. Just love those triplet fills.

[@scottdolohite9261]

I don’t put many albums in the category of perfect, meaning zero tracks I skip start to finish. This is one of those albums.

[@beachboy7573]

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[@brezz6759]

You guys put me on smashing pumpkins and now I can’t stop listening to them so thank you!

[@LuisFigo4]

Listen to Hole's second album. Billy supposedly wrote it for Courtney Love. Hole rocks

[@richardwellend3806]

@@LuisFigo4 yeet hole albums into the nearest river, they suck!

[@LuisFigo4]

@@richardwellend3806 absolutely not. Hole rocks still

[@richardwellend3806]

@@LuisFigo4 bum hole more like. Shite band

[@tzt1182]

1990 through 1995 were absolutely unbelievable. I lived my entire 20s in the 90s. I wish we would have another musical revolution like we did then.

[@DogmenHardcastle]

I didn't hit my 20s until the early 00s, but even so... in the 90s as a child I could tell the people older than me were listening to epically "cool" music, in my opinion still the coolest music of all time.

[@jaceelliott9659]

I had started College when this scene was in full swing. Amazing times!!!

[@daveb7801]

"Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins" "Homer Simpson, Smiling politely" Take both ends of the SP spectrum with "Zero" and "Tonight, Tonight"

[@bobbya4234]

If they don't like his voice in Bullet with Butterfly Wing, they won't like "Zero" or "Tonight, Tonight" any better. Billy used that same nasally singing tone through most of the Mellon Collie singles. Understandably, his voice takes some getting used to for a lot of people.

[@DiogoBianchi5]

@@bobbya4234 Billy's voice is an acquired taste and I believe they will love BWBW after listening to other songs

[@randolphcarterjr]

"Hummer." Pumpkins' catalog is very diverse; not every sound will appeal to you guys (or to me frankly). But Siamese Dream is amazing start-to-finish. "Hummer" is my favorite, and I think you guys will dig it. Cheers!

[@elistone7810]

Mayonnaise would be another

[@mylesmuir2569]

@@elistone7810 Who doesn't love a good hummer and the mayonnaise that comes with it?

[@beachboy7573]

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[@negativeindustrial]

Yep, “Hummer” was the hit for me. Still is.

[@jaylegere]

Hummer for life

[@bobesposito2216]

'Geek USA', 'Zero', 'Mayonaise', 'Tonight ,Tonight', and 'An Ode to No One' are my favorite Pumpkins songs, so I'd recommend any of those. I can almost guarantee you guys have heard 'Today' and '1979' somewhere before, so you can probably skip them (even though they are still good songs).

[@nojjy2006]

Geek usa!

[@timwarrander2955]

Hello kitty kat is a trasher

[@richeerich561]

Zero is always a fav of mine

[@alrivers2297]

Siva is another good one

[@drromany]

An Ode To No One is such a blast - the guys should defo check it out

[@sgrubb8438]

Every time I hear Smashing Pumpkins I get transported back to the 90’s.

[@dustingd1]

Early Pumpkins guitars was always described to me as a "wall of fuzz and sound" and it never left me.

[@brad_wilson]

If you're looking for a recommendation from their first album (Gish) I would recommend "I Am One", the opening track. It's up tempo, with a great groove and a nice thick bass line, and none of the whiny vocals that put you off Bullet. If you want something slightly mellower, "Rhinoceros" is really good, too.

[@An_Dulachan]

Bro...literally all of Gish, and Pieces Iscariot. I still cant believe the songs PI didn't make it on to the albums.

[@brezz6759]

I’m getting into smashing pumpkins so I appreciate this

[@An_Dulachan]

@@brezz6759 ...Love it, they are a great band #BringtheDeth.

[@jeidina]

Gish is my fav !

[@TrailerBob]

Came here to say exactly this.

[@CruxalYT]

Soooo glad you guys loved this one! great reaction as always, such a killer tone too I agree. SOmething about the way the notes sustain and interact with eachother is like heaven to my ears!

[@beachboy7573]

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[@leetrengove]

Lost in Vegas + Smashing Pumpkins = INSTANT CLICK

[@Driver8takeabreak]

Billy was famous for crazy amounts of overdubbed guitars. A track on this album supposedly have over 100 guitar overdubs on it! Gave the sound so much atmosphere.

[@RobertMullineux]

I've never met a person who wasn't impressed by Cherub Rock. A true gem in rock history!

[@aryehbarson]

I wholeheartedly recommend "Rhinocerous" from their first album, Gish. It's a very different vibe, but it feels so good. Imagine finding an underground record store in the Chicago 'burbs and Gish is your introduction.

[@theoffering7000]

I super second this!!! ⚡️

[@52ndWarhawkGerbil]

A lot of people would consider the early/mid 90s the last great era of rock music. I think part of it has to do with the proliferation of the internet. Rick Beato has a great video where he talked about this and one of his points was that grunge was a very localized genre, emerging out of Seattle in the late 80s. Most of the big grunge bands all knew each other, toured, and gigged together. Nowadays there's so much music out there that its harder than ever to cut through the noise and really get noticed. Bands also stopped having a sort of superstardom to them where the general public knew the names of all of the musicians in a way that the Beatles or Led Zeppelin had. I also think that, unfortunately, hip hop did have a lot to do with the demise of rock music. Instead of paying an entire band that needs to know how to play multiple instruments and write their own songs, now you can just pay one artist and a production team to make a very commercialized product. It's sort of like how popular music was in the 40s and 50s where people like Frank Sinatra and Bing Crosby, while talented singers, were essentially performing monkeys that just did what the producers and songwriters told them to. It wasn't until the 60s and 70s that artistic expression and integrity really emerged in popular music. Popular music has sort of reached that point again where the majority of popular acts are just performers that are playing the music of business men. I'm not sure if there'll be another big rock renaissance just because the internet has changed things so much, but its not necessarily a bad thing because there are still many great acts out there, you just need to know where to find them.

[@tidalcliff2202]

This is a pretty ignorant reply but I get what you're trying to say. Hip hop also has that sense of community that grunge had and goes beyond it, everyone knows each other and can be featured on each others' songs. That simply does not exist in rock music.

[@sitiesito715]

I don't think it had to do with hip hop or any one genre, but for better or worse, the 90s were the epitome of curated artists blasted into popularity by the machinations of music execs. They controlled the supply and demand (mostly), and their music/artist selections had a sense of consistency and continuity. It was great when they would stumble upon some untapped groundswell of fresh creativity that a bunch of people like, and it was terrible when they consolidated, became too conservative, and brought us the shit recycled music of the late 90's Verve Pipe / Matthew Sweet garbage. Fast forward to today's world, and the industry has easy access to audience data that points out the day's "greatest common denominator", while edgy creative acts are niche and need to be sought out. Great as they are, a band like Smashing Pumpkins would struggle really hard to find mass appeal beyond their niche in today's world.

[@TheRestartPoint]

I think the '90s was most definitely the last great era of rock music in the mainstream, no doubt about it, so glad I'm old enough to have appreciated it at the time. There's still lots of great heavy alternative rock, just underground now.

[@netrioter]

I wouldn't trust Beato on a Fisher-Price piano my dude...

[@Droogie128]

IMHO, this is, by far, their best song. What a great song, too.

[@Thisisgood99]

1979 and today are fantastic but this is prolly the best

[@ryukan250]

Soma, Mayonaise, Geek USA, Hummer

[@samhouston1979]

i always loved “stand inside your love”

[@nwebster2012]

For another riff that just doesn't "stop" try Hey Man Nice Shot by Filter. Great song from that era with a killer riff.

[@jakemoresea7415]

Underrated af song

[@JoeVideoed]

@@jakemoresea7415 & like the Pumpkins another Chicago band.

[@rjanolsen3935]

A song about Kurt Cobain

[@ht31ehtyadirf]

@@rjanolsen3935 A common belief but incorrect. Actually written about R. Budd Dwyer.

[@patrickflynn1771]

Siamese Dream is a GD classic. Geek U.S.A. and Silverfuck absolutely slay

[@thegreatinterpreter8382]

I was in high school during the early to mid 90s. I knew at the time that the music being pumped out was something special. We just found ourselves living in this small window of time (say, between 1992 to 1996) were just incredible bands with incredible music was coming at us from every direction-- and that included some hip-hop like Dr. Dre. and Snoop's early stuff. It was a good time to be young. Tracks like Cherub Rock are just ingrained into the soundtrack of my youth-- and I'm glad to get confirmation that, yes-- it was as good as I thought at the time. And then goof-dick bands like Sugar Ray and Smash Mouth took over the air waves and, in the blink of an eye, it was all over.

[@davestrongman9519]

And we’re still waiting for a revolutionary era like that again

[@mikea.4477]

I concur! The 90s was a good time for music overall…before the “goof-dick” bands took over lol 😆

[@gvehar]

Can confirm. I was 18 in 1991. There was so much good music going on from 91 to 95-96. And then it petered out suddenly. All these bands like Dishwalla and Fuel and Smash Mouth took over. 98 was definitely completely different from 92. It affected hip hop as well. Hip hop peaked in 92-94. It’s a cycle though. I remember as a kid that music from 1980-1985 or so was just as amazing and wonderful, and then it lost me from 86-90. It was just the difference between Cyndi Lauper and Pebbles, you know?

[@bowlingballhead]

Class of 1996. Eternally grateful to be a teenager during that time, and to have been alive before all of this garbage music and social media poison. Eternally grateful.

[@jkbezo]

Right on! Fellow GenXer here. Was in HS same yrs as you were. lol. Alt rock/punk/grunge was blowing up back then and hip hop/rap was blowing up the same time, too. Rap/rock (nu-metal) mix music, too. Great years '90s lol.

[@Pinkflamingo138]

This was always one of my favorite albums from high school in the 90s. Cherub Rock still gives me goose bumps.

[@ShellyManne1]

“It may be basic, it may be simple, I don’t really know”. What you are recognizing is how sonically unique the song is. The riff isn’t overly complicated but it’s a great riff and every instrument supports the riff and most importantly it is sonically unique. And that is not a simple task. Smashing Pumpkins sounds like Smashing Pumpkins. That’s why they’ve lasted so long. Nothing basic going on here.

[@Jaspertine]

Or to put it in music snob terms: Timbre and Arrangement.

[@mikeoshea12]

Billy Corgan and Butch Vig together made something special on this album. The guitar tone is crafted with many frequencies. Butch Vig talks about adding frequencies that were there just for the sonic texture so to speak. Pretty outside the box thinking.

[@dumahim]

FINALLY! My favorite band growing up and probably still my favorite song from them. The guitar sound gets its awesome sound because they layer many guitar parts over each other and gives it that big sound. Rocket, Today, and Hummer from the same album really show off this sound.

[@beachboy7573]

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[@johnw6137]

One of the greatest albums ever made.

[@beachboy7573]

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[@ladylo-fi6979]

This song is a masterpiece. It blew my mind when it came out and it was awesome to relive the experience of hearing it for the first time with you guys. ♥

[@baTonkaTruck]

This was the first album I ever bought as a 10 y.o. kid. I had only heard Today and loved it beyond words, but had no idea if the rest of the album was good. This track started up, and the second the big distorted guitars come crashing down like 20 seconds in I knew it was a masterpiece. And by the end of the track I was jumping off the couch going absolutely bat shit. I listened to the whole album three times through nonstop before my diskman ran out of batteries.

[@Wargasm54]

This whole album is fantastic. Very few albums in history are kickass from beginning to end. This is one of them.

[@deckofcards87]

The Pumpkins are part of a handful of bands that define the 90s and "Siamese Dream" is a must hear album.

[@sitiesito715]

This song sounds like high school to me. Really nostalgic, haven't heard this in a looong time.

[@Adam-qs5ir]

This song was college to me. Good times.

[@beachboy7573]

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[@dansdogshots]

As a pretty big Smashing Pumpkins fan, I can comfortably say that Bullet with Butterfly Wings is hard to listen to. So don’t let that one song skew your opinion on them. Billy Corgan is a genius.

[@VCCassidy]

This whole album is a banger. Butch Vig was the producer on this and he perfected the 90s fuzz tone. He also produced Nirvana’s Nevermind and the album Dirty by Sonic Youth, among countless others.

[@geomod6850]

This wasn't complex to play necessarily, but this sound and style was all new at the time. Nobody else had this sound. I think his voice complements it perfectly.

[@randolphcarterjr]

Black Sabbath + Shoegaze.... Simple. Beautiful.

[@FardtilUshid]

@@randolphcarterjr word!

[@jimmymac4559]

Hum had this sound before the pumpkins. The cherub rock riff was ripped off from “Stars”

[@beachboy7573]

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[@richardwellend3806]

@@randolphcarterjr strat + bigmuff

[@lordhammerwind]

I SINCERELY hope that they dig into this album. I don't think that SD has a bad/song that I'd skip on it.

[@beachboy7573]

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[@dapperdandy100]

Agreed...,love all SD but they offset it with so many mediocre songs later on I fell off their bandwagon

[@richardwellend3806]

Silverfuck is awful

[@raymo6795]

great album! exciting time in music.

[@richrodriguez8520]

One of the best albums ever, any genre

[@drwinlied]

This word gets overused often, but this album is a rare masterpiece; their absolute peak.

[@whatdothlife4660]

Yeah it's a masterpiece but I think Mellon Collie is obviously their peak.

[@tbd407]

@@whatdothlife4660 hell no. i'm guessing you're under 44 with that comment. the fifth best song on this shits on the best song on Mellon Collie

[@zimmy4868]

@@whatdothlife4660 I disagree, this is a much more focused album. There are throwaway tracks on Mellon Collie, not this one.

[@Shichiaikan]

For what it's worth, Siamese Dream is considered in many circles, one of the few 'perfect albums' ever made. You really can't go wrong picking any song on here to represent the highly diverse sounds of smashing pumpkins. My personal favorites are Luna, Mayonnaise, and Cherub Rock from this album... but then they genuinely continued getting better and better and growing as a band over their follow up albums.

[@jacobosborne9145]

Siamese Dream was the definitive album by Smashing Pumpkins, arguably their best. How amazing this album is, is what gave them the opportunity to make Mellon collie. Being a proud Georgia native, this album was recorded in Marietta, GA (basically Atlanta). The band relocated production there to escape negative social influences, focusing on the music. Songs to consider; Disarm, Quiet, Luna, Today. Love what y'all are doing, keep it up!

[@funkl3]

This album is fucking golden. Right up there with Dirt imo. If you go further into this band, look to this album for more

[@Micaelas]

SOMA is one of my favorite song from this album. Meldoy, mood, heaviness, lyrics, it has it all

[@thewal1ofsleep]

This whole album is excellent. I'm really not much of a "grunge" fan and don't listen to a lot of 90's rock overall, but The Smashing Pumpkins always hold a special place in my heart, especially their first two albums.

[@padawansound6423]

Not a huge Pumpkins fan, but this album is fantastic. Quiet, Hummer and Geek USA would be great next song choices.

[@Adam-qs5ir]

Hummer 👍

[@adjess25]

Quite!!! So dope

[@TylerSampson51]

Mayonnaise too. The album is damn near perfect.

[@beachboy7573]

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[@JD_Slacker]

Check out Mayonaise! My favorite Pumpkins song. I was 19 when this album came out and Mayonaise is one of those tunes that instantly transports me back to that point in time.

[@Draregkoeliekalie]

Pure melancholy song, goosebumbs everytine.

[@anthward1972]

Soma from Siamese Dream is my favourite song of all time. Love the range of music it brings from soft smooth melodic to where the heavily distorted Siamese Dream guitar sound kicks in and almost changes the song completely.

[@ryukan250]

Their crowning achievement for me, everything just clicked on that song.

[@thew00ds73]

Damn dude. This has been my favorite record for about my whole life and the way you broke down the meaning has never occurred to me. Holy shit, thank you!

[@PGLAMB1978]

This album was packed with hits. Today was the single, by i'd recommend Disarm and my fave Spaceboy

[@bjwnashe5589]

Jimmy Chamberlin was a big part of this band's sound. One of the best rock drummers of all time. Very heavy groove, with all sorts of accents and fills.

[@rsoissong]

Jimmy fucking murdered this track.

[@beachboy7573]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpjJZYlrltV8pK8 😘

[@anthonyfuqua6988]

Very accomplished jazz drummer

[@JS-ju6cv]

Was going to say, lots of super tasty jazz fills. Awesome drummer.

[@askholia]

So I grew up on both Chubb Rock and Smashing Pumpkins so I love that drop! Thank you!

[@davidemery4759]

I absolutely love you guys. Top Reaction Channel OF ALL TIME!!!! Hands down! Thank you:) I’m so happy to see you guys over the milli mark;) Well deserved.

[@Efferri]

Guys, this whole album is Fire! Just like Pearl Jam - Ten, Alice in Chains - Dirt, and Soundgarden - Superunknown. Bullet With Butterfly Wings is one of my least favorite songs by them. Billy Corgan's voice is so damn good on the less "shouty" songs. Check out Soma or Mayonaise on this album. Very chill but so damn good.

[@hudsonja]

I second Mayonnaise! It's even better when you look up the history of the guitar used to make those iconic squeals.

[@ianmason2003]

Badmotorfinger!

[@ryukan250]

Soma and Mayonaise fucking spot on bro!

[@Efferri]

@@ianmason2003 Good too, but I like Superunknown better.

[@fredferdmanley612]

The guitars on this whole album are badass. I think they call it the Big Muff album because Big Muff is the name of the effects pedal they used throughout the album. Awesome album, Hummer is pretty spectacular of this record

[@carriechildress5032]

“You said Muff…huh huh..huh huh…” - Beavis

[@jooplin]

Usually used in stoner and doom. That’s just fuckin cool

[@beachboy7573]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpjJZYlrltV8pK8 😘

[@jooplin]

@@beachboy7573 shut up

[@markgraham5971]

Jimi Hendrix also used the big green box "the big muff". It is also a sustain pedal , the OG ones are tube driven and are fuckin beasts. If you see one, BUY IT.

[@davidritchie1678]

The Pixies are credited for kicking off the 90’s bands. “Where is my mind” is probably their most iconic song. My personal favorite is “Debaser”.

[@jamesbarrick3403]

That may be true, but not to the masses. Nobody knew heard of Pixies unless you were already following the punk scene. Nirvana kicked down the doors and 95% of reasonable people know this. Its only squids that want to argue over this. My analogy is that Tesla may have invented AC current... but Edison filed patents and brought it to the masses... and at the end of the day that is what counts.

[@davidritchie1678]

@@jamesbarrick3403 I agree, especially in the US. They did reach more mass in Europe.

[@robcrilley592]

Good tunes... But I was always partial to "Velouria".

[@davidritchie1678]

@@robcrilley592 That’s a goodie too! I remember jumping from the couch when he sings “fly away” when I was a kid. 😂 Been a fan since I was in 5th grade!

[@mcn6447]

@@jamesbarrick3403 twaddle The Pixies were huge

[@MrPandapants69]

I get goosebumps watching you guys react and rock out to songs that have been with me for 20+ years and brings me back to feelings I had first hearing the tunes. Never change boys.

[@sashwap]

yeah, you nailed it. love these guys

[@keithstrehler6386]

You guys should do Soma from Siamese Dream.

[@blueeyedcowboy8291]

Soma is a top 3 Pumpkins song imo.

[@allmytcane]

The whole album is a masterpiece... Check out : Geek USA, Mayonaise, Today, & specially "SOMA" one of the most emotional guitar solos you'll ever hear.. Period... Please, SOMA 🔥🔥🤟🙏🙏🎸🎸

[@timduval7159]

Soma is incredible!!

[@timothyevans7383]

"The whole album is a masterpiece"......you don't say......

[@ryukan250]

Soma is their best song. Billy's guitar solo is unhinged.

[@ddsmaskinofficial6601]

Today, 1979, Perfect. 3 great songs from 3 different albums.

[@the_black_arts]

@lostinvegas That ‘resonant linger’ you’re hearing is the lowest (6th) guitar string dropped down a full step from standard E to D. Billy is playing his sharp buzzcut-sounding riffs mainly on the 4th & 5th strings while he keeps hitting with his pick(but not fretting) that 6th string, keeping it buzzing open in open D, which is called ‘drone’. That open D is being doubled by the bass guitar too, making the drone effect sound HUGE. And that’s your ‘linger’ that you’re hearing throughout most of the song. It’s a recurring theme on much of this wonderful record.

[@georgekeenan72]

Yes!!!!

[@willr2498]

The song is in E standard tho

[@MrCjnamfuak]

You're hearing a big muff with the sustain pegged layered like 30 times...that's the "linger"

[@charlestillmanTV]

That’s the open low E string. The song is in standard tuning.

[@the_black_arts]

@@charlestillmanTV Yeah, my mistake. Lots of drop d on Siamese Dream.

[@joeimparato3230]

If you guys like this one you should definitely listen to the song “hummer” off the same album

[@beachboy7573]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpjJZYlrltV8pK8 😘

[@naushadkabir6745]

As one of those folks that had their life changed forever when they first heard Siamese Dream, "Cherub Rock" is such a perfect layered hooky opener that solidifies the first time you dive into the magic of this album. It is one of my favorites by them, but they have so so many good ones. I like that you were reminded of Deftones. Lot of shoegaze elements in common. Wouldn't be surprised if SP influenced the Tones a bit. Also, the mainstream adapted to sound like them.

[@naushadkabir6745]

Also, check out the live versions of "Snail" and "Bodies" with Chino on guest vocals

[@TheDentist27]

First time hearing Cherub Rock as a 12 year old changed the trajectory of my life forever

[@TheAgentAssassin]

The "Big Muff" was the guitar pedal effect that defined this band.

[@chadnichols7980]

Leon Bridges is the "bridge" I'm 42, grew up in 90's alt, r&b & rap. Love it all. Leon brings all the soul & southern rock together

[@petemacbass]

'Soma' showcases pretty much everything the Smashing Pumpkins were great at. Runs the gamut from dreamy psychedelic pop into sludgy grunge riffery with a face-melting guitar solo to boot!

[@ItsVincentAgain]

I won't be able to get Chubb Rock out of my head when I hear Cherub Rock. Thanks. 🤣

[@knittingnickel]

5:01 - George my man, I love you for loving this era of rock! ❤️ This was my teen years - late grunge and post-grunge, and we never stopped carrying the Nirvana torch, all the grunge 🐐 s!! What a fine time to be alive! I only wish I had been more of a rebel then and snuck out to my one chance to see these guys in their peak!

[@blakfloyd]

Disarm is an amazingly intense ballad. Definitely worthy of being y'all's next Smashing Pumpkins reaction. Good video as always too. I always enjoy how thoughtful y'all's analyses are.

[@pablozee6359]

Pumpkins drummer Jimmy Chamberlin is one of the truly great rock drummers, and is kind of the Neil Peart of the alternative period of rock. He rocks hard, but also swings. Listen to the pulse of the hi hat with his left foot to keep that swing while he’s destroying. Amazing musician and so important to their sound. And Siamese Dream is solid all the way through. This album and the first album are very long different from what came later.

[@petejung3122]

Most under-rated drummer of his time, and even today, you can hear he was influenced by jazz fushion.

[@josephgarza7065]

i completely agree brotha

[@rbsteve9191]

Welcome back guys. Seems like you guys haven’t been around for awhile. You guys have some of my favorites reactions to rock music. You guys seem genuine and have great explanation of how the music makes you feel while listening. Also like you guys give your honest opinion rather be good or bad. Keep cranking out these great reactions.

[@jamesjohnston9225]

Ikr!

[@perniciousreaper4393]

Corgan really figured out how to get the maximum tone and - most importantly - sustain out of the Big Muff fuzz pedal. He's always had a particular affinity for the op amp models. which when dialed in correctly, have unbelievable sustain, which is the "lingering" you alluded to.

[@scottyb5828]

You guys popped up in my recommendations as I watch a few other reaction channels. I watched this and it put me on to a few others from your back catalogue and then I realised that you two are the one of the OG's of the YT music reaction world. It shows as you two are genuinely bright music lovers that embrace the art despite its many different styles and sounds. Your commentary, analysis and insights are generally on point and you get the emotion - plus your disagreements made me chuckle! I've subscribed as you are of a better quality than other channels I was looking at from time to time. Keep up the good work 👍

[@babylonkid]

Cherub Rock is their best song and Siamese Dream is their best album. "Quiet" and "Today" along with this song create the trifecta. The drums and guitars in this song are so damn good. Super cool guitar solo too.

[@WhoaNellyJake]

I'd have to.....strongly agree

[@Nimno74]

Wrong and wrong. Gish is their best album. It's pure, pre-fame, uninhibited awesomeness. I Am One, Siva, etc.... all of it.

[@ryukan250]

Soma, Hummer and Mayonaise are the trifecta for me with Geek USA right behind.

[@ryuujin9573]

Cherub Rock, Quiet, and Today are a great trio of songs, but Soma, Geek USA, and Mayonaise are the true trifecta of the album.

[@beachboy7573]

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[@heliosvice]

"Siamese Dream" Album is insane. You'll definitely will LOVE "Geek USA". More on the "ballad song" side i would suggest "Mayonaise" and "Tonight, Tonight" of course to show how versatile and talented they were. This being said Billy Corgan, is a wayyyyy underrated Guitarist and songwriter, he's a bit disliked due to his personality but, man... i would dare to say he's the most talented artist from the "Grunge" era. He's not my favourite from that era, because of Layne, Jerry Cantrell, Cornell... but i think as a musician he's the most talented from that era.

[@Whitesquall123]

He's a lot more grounded now. He had a great interview on Rogan about the music industry and how he was blind to a lot of things back in the 90s

[@bluesfortheredsun]

GEEK USA!!!

[@beachboy7573]

😘kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpjJZYlrltV8pK8

[@troytalbot5746]

Tonight Tonight is mostly about Chicago. It's a great song that kinda takes you to this lake and theater vibe that Chicago has.

[@hanssprungfeld9859]

Geek USA!

[@thedarkcherubs]

Can y'all do some more pumpkins. Billy knew he couldn't compete with the other bands vocally, so he dedicated all his time in the sound of their instruments. Me personally like the way Billy sings in this era.

[@knittingnickel]

🤔 That makes a lot of sense, now that I think of it!! Oh man, I miss the 90s! They're coming back! I see what the kiddies are wearing. I hope they rediscover all these gems!

[@tylerjohnson9887]

@@knittingnickel oh trust me we are. im 20 and my father brought me up on only 90’s and classic rock. most people my age that ive showed this music to loves it.

[@knittingnickel]

@@tylerjohnson9887 I love it!! 🤘😎 I've gotten a similar vibe with this generation to how I felt at their age. Makes sense. Rock on, Gen Z! I'll be the old lady at your rock concerts. ❤️🤘

[@jefferydavis3332]

It’s insane how great, like you both said, all music genres were in the 90’s. I’d love for a new revolution to come along again like that, but that’s a tall order.

[@jasonfallon9457]

You guys are the best reviewers out there! Keep it up! Greatest song in history named after a condiment… Mayonnaise! It encapsulates everything great about the band. Top 5 B-side song in history.

[@Draregkoeliekalie]

This!

[@TornSoul062473]

The song Mayonaise off Siamese Dream is probably my favorite. It's just this huge wall of dirty guitar tone with this melancholy singing over it.

[@angiepants8426]

this song reminds me so much of my high school days, brings so many great memories to me and its great to see your reaction when the riffs drop!

[@revolutionday1]

Definitely.

[@seansopata5121]

Their guitarist, James Iha, is utterly brilliant. Dude used a laser gun to get feedback from his guitar at one point

[@Avarice176]

The "nasally" tone from Bullet w/ Butterfly Wings is part of a persona Billy created for the album's overarching story/theme named Zero. Everything from Siamese Dream and Gish has more of the whispery/shoegaze vocals.

[@Jaspertine]

it also helps that Billy's voice is double and even quadruple tracked all over Siamese Dream.

[@jametowne]

Every bit of your commentary was on point. I love the Pumpkins (usually) and Deftones but never would have thought to compare the vocal styles. They really were similar. Corgan's voice hasn't aged nearly as well though. Keep it to those early SP albums lol

[@n0n1337h41]

Yeah, I think his nasal singing is what comes naturally to Corgan. So as he became more comfortable with performing, he stopped trying to mask his natural nasal singing. It bugged me back in the 90s, but I loved the music so much that I listened to them a ton. Now, I don’t even notice his voice.

[@TylerSampson51]

Im gonna disagree with you there. He doesn't scream as much, but his tone is still there. Besides, Oceania is a banger of an album.

[@jonathankarakas5354]

soundtrack of my youth. Still sounds incredible 30 yrs later!!! I knew it was a classic then!

[@tobinhays652]

You're absolutely correct, that there was a reset button hit. Soundgarden "Louder Than Love", The Cult "Sonic Temple", Nirvana "Bleach" were warning shots. Then Nirvana "Nevermind", Pearl Jam "Ten", Alice In Chains (any of them), Pumpkins...all of this began in my senior year of high school, and continued into my late 20's. It was wonderful.

[@TheXxKingSlayrxX]

“1979” & “tonight, tonight” are staylist Smashing Pumpkins songs. Would highly recommend a listen.

[@ClavisRa]

This song always fires me up. This is my #1 car rock out freak out song. The way this song builds a massive wall of sound just fires me up and gets me pumped! By the way, the key band that hit that reset button on rock was The Pixies! They created the sonic template that Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Radiohead and many others built on to tear down one of the lamest eras of rock and pop music in the late 80s and very early 90s.

[@DragAmiot]

Sonic Youth out there too :)

[@deweyonpoint5765]

Man how did I miss you guys doing my favorite Smashing Pumpkins song? I been too busy recently. I literally grew up with this on the radio in the background a lot, jammed to it, didn't know it was Smashing Pumpkins until like 6 or 7 years ago. I just remembered the rocking groove, never paid attention as an 8-10 year old kid to the voice and such. Such a good song.

[@warnerbasement1628]

What makes this song work is Chamberlains commitment to a half time groove which has the snare hits on the 3 count -- instead of the 2 & 4 -- allowing space for the guitar and lyrics to shine. It also allows for a push pull effect with a lurching feel as if the drums are keeping the guitar from getting too frenetic holding it all back.