"LOUD QUITTING!" - THE "NEXT" DUMB JOB TREND EXPLAINED

[@Tabby3456]

What i thought quiet quitting was: Disappearing from your job without notice what quiet quitting is actually: Doing your exact job without going above and beyond what i thought loud quitting was: a worker screaming "I QUIT!" what loud quitting actually is: Unionizing

[@Bella.Parabellum]

Pretty much 😂

[@gordug]

I thought it was leaving a 💩on your bosses desk

[@aciesara5444]

Same. Before I knew the real definition, I thought "quiet quitting" was bad because disappearing without notice is disrespectful towards the employer and your fellow coworkers, no matter how bad your company is. It turns out it means doing the job as intended. Some definitions say "doing the minimum amount of effort," but they still do their job properly. How the hell is that a bad thing anyway?

[@gordug]

@@aciesara5444 Because as the video says, the companies want you to work for free beyond what they pay you for.

[@UCmDBecUtbSafffpMEN3iscA]

Pretty much sums up the whole situation

[@robinfox4440]

Punishing people for being critical of your organization, causing them to become socially ostracized and punished by superiors, is lowkey exactly what a cult does. I hate the corporate world.

[@schwartz478]

The corporate world is basically just a network of white collared criminals. The amount of power they have over people is absolutely creepy, they are smart enough to do bad things without getting caught (aka psychopaths)

[@chrism8180]

Cult of personality, work, religion, school, it's systemic institutionalism

[@princessmarlena1359]

Exactly, and it’s sad there are people unintelligent enough to bootlick for big corporations so as to harass people for publicly expressing legit grievances.

[@fredmercury1314]

How about this: Talk to your boss and HR rather than Twitter.

[@chrism8180]

@@fredmercury1314 Yea plenty of people tried that route, and it didn't yield positive results

[@Jebbis]

Man they are really trying to blame the worker as mush as possible. "Am I so out of touch? No. It’s the children who are wrong." -Principal Skinner.

[@chuckchan4127]

It's like the Video Game Outer Worlds coming to real life.

[@rejectionistmanifesto8836]

Hey folks join our life long slavery worker system by getting pregnant, starting a family or getting married. YOU TOO CAN HAVE NEVER ENDING EXPENSES, CONSTANT WORK, BE A GOOD WORKER SLAVE WHO CANNOT JUST LEAVE IF IT GETS BAD, AND WE WILL THROW IN DEBT SLAVERY. So keep feeding the beast more cheap innocent newborns to be good future worker slaves.

[@ipeteagles]

@null40 they're squeezing employees through the mixed messaging from the corporate propaganda from the WEF. too cynical to encourage, to greedy to reinvest.

[@iamthesamrus]

😂 sooo good

[@chloewebb5526]

@@chuckchan4127 Honestly, I feel like Mirrors Edge/Cyberpunk 2077 is the way corporations are heading. They have so much power lobbying in the government already and have spent he days since Rockefeller undoing any and all government restrictions by creating tiny loophole laws to squeeze through at every turn. It's only a matter of time really. Give it another 100 years...

[@MiaMizuno]

My sister-in-law worked 5 years as an office Management assistant in a retirement home. At first, they told her, she is only responsible for Office work, papers for all 200 inhabitants of that retirement home + 2 weekends is a must (which was also paid). Then covid Hit, she gave her best to also help the care personnel, since sickness lowered down the personnel drastically and they also had waves of covid sicknesses. Hard time for everyone. Things calmed down in the last 1,5 years. After this, her boss still expected her caring for the elderly, also help out as waitress in their retirement Café, "when she has time". She ended up having NO lunch Breaks. Also they expected her to attend funerals instead of the Management who normally did that, because that was part of their responsibility. Half a year ago, she finally asked for a raise. They said "no". She was vocal about "if I do not get a raise, then I will have to leave". She said that 3 times while already applying for new jobs. Then, last March, she finally quit her job. They did a huge surprise Pikachu face and asked "why did you not ask for a raise?" 😂 She did several times, she was loud about it, but she was ignored and badly treated

[@emmasarge4057]

Sadly, I'm not surprised.

[@Here4TheHeckOfIt]

I hope she is doing well now. I am stunned by the lack of awareness in today's "leaders" (if you can call them that).

[@sp3g56]

It’s straight up an abusive relationship.

[@HESSIAN578]

Yep. You agree to help out once, and then they expect it from then on. And anytime you're told "It's just for now" you can be sure that "for now" means "forever".

[@jlogan2228]

I asked my company for a substantial raise for over a year and even asked for performance eval so I could do more and be better to earn it. I got 30 cents an hour and was told I that's the best they could do for an hourly employee. I told them no the best I can do is take this other offer I have that pays 12 grand more a year

[@allhandsonberk]

Loud quitting is just pointing out why others should be quiet quitting. In other words, it's actively discouraging people from allowing corporate exploitation.

[@larrydickerson5700]

I was told by a supervisor to not speak negatively in front of new hires. Translation: don't tell the newbies the company is lying to them because if they knew they will quit.

[@Perfidion]

@@larrydickerson5700 I consider it a sacred duty to inform new hires of the myriad ways the company will try to fuck them. It's my calling in life.

[@clubx1000]

Very good videoVery good video

[@filthyfrankblack4067]

All of these articles are coming from one source.. 'The washington post' owned by Bezos. I don't believe any of this stuff wrote by A.I. and re-wrote by bots.

[@birdjericho]

@@Perfidion Thank you for your service. Seriously. Too many honest people are letting dishonest managers shove them around. I used to be one of those "too honest" types, and I always admired fellow co-workers who stood up to objectively poor leadership when I didn't yet have the instinct to do the same. For us agreeable types, it's something we need to learn, and the faster we learn it, the better off we'll all be.

[@TomekMez]

OMG! We actually did this Gallup poll in our company. My team had a low score because we wanted to point out many issues we have with how things are organized. They always advertise this as a way to "open the discussion" and solve possible problems. It turned out the only problem my manager focused on was the fact that we scored low. And there the gaslighting started, that low score basically means we are not engaged, and we obviously didn't understand the questions. Only teams that blindly gave top score are considered "engaged". The world where only yes-men are valuable workers.. :/

[@staceyb3007]

This sounds strangely familiar 😮

[@blablup1214]

Heared a story of an older colleague of mine. In his company they had a weekly "stand up "meeting. If you see big problems with the project , you should stand up and mention them. One day a person stood up, and mentioned a lot of problem and that he thinks if things continue like this the project will fail. Next day he was gone. Since then everyone else knew they had to shut up and the project failed brilliantly.

[@jakeb8856]

Same here

[@LadyLenaki]

This is not loud quitting. Loud quitting is when someone has a breakdown, quits midshift, and leaves screaming and crying. I've seen this. I work in a call center.

[@MoonOvIce]

I am so sorry you work at a call center, be there, done that. Hang in there...

[@ethanlewis1453]

Right! Loud quitting: You quit and make a big deal to others like social media. Quit Quitting: You quit and don't make a big deal of it to others. I don't accept this butchering of the English language.

[@BigDaddyJinx]

I also used to work in a call center, and I can say without question that the resignations I witnessed there were nothing short of legendary.

[@SpielkindFR]

Had this job once where I negotiated a pay rise to extend my contract and then when I got the paperwork the boss gave it to me on the shop floor in front of customers. I open it, I look at it, and it says less than what we had agreed on. Told him right then and there that I'm not going to work for someone trying to rip me off and left. I'd say that qualifies as loud quitting as well, even without a breakdown.

[@LadyLenaki]

@@SpielkindFR If it's loud enough for people to hear you quitting, then it definitely qualifies as loud quitting.

[@mlmii1933]

Got pulled into a meeting with my newly minted manager because "my productivity had dropped" and got a nastily written "personal discussion" in my file when I pointed out that I was still easily in the top two in productivity and that I was tired and done carrying the rest of the team for the same pay. Shorty afterwards they pounced on a small "safety" infraction that everyone in the team was guilty of but gave me a level two write up ... this would mean they could fire me for cause over anything, no matter how minor and my manager suggested I "get help". Apparently they honestly thought I'd buckle and stay after that instead of finishing the day and never coming back ... the one and only time I didn’t give notice.

[@user-oe5ey3ex8b]

I've been in this position multiple times and rather than respond with emotions I planned my exit. The company was pure evil in the way they exploited workers. For example mass layoff the day everyone went on Christmas break so they could start the new year "clean". I was IT at the time and waiting until crunch time and just before I left. "Someone" also changed many critical service account passwords, corrupted source code and backups then set password reset timers everywhere possible. And the icing on the cake...I "mistakenly" forgot my holiday bonus of a frozen turkey under the raised server room floor. I was told the smell was unbearable once it started to decompose. No one could find it. Anyway, as expected I got called to work 40 uncompensated hours overtime a week during crunch time because so many tech coworkers were laid off. I said during a large meeting, absolutely not. I told everyone I would work my agreed 40 hours and not a minute more and that managements lack of planning is not my fault or problem. I of course secured a new job first. I got called into HR after the meeting and was told that either work extra hours with no compensation or get fired. I smiled and walked out the took part of the two weeks before starting to vacation in Jamaica, well out of cell phone range. The stories I got from former coworkers were amazing.

[@mlmii1933]

@@user-oe5ey3ex8b ... Love that, sadly I wasn't in a position to take any actual revenge other than not being there.

[@mac1991seth]

Quiet quitting, quiet hiring, rage applying, loud quitting... So I guess the next trend should be either quiet applying or loud hiring.

[@YogiXXL]

Ragequitting 😂

[@adm_ackbar4899]

Don’t give them any ideas. I can’t stand anymore of these 😂

[@danielhall6477]

Rage hiring Loud working Rage sleeping

[@anarchy1090]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@TheCarnivoreSoprano]

​@@YogiXXL😅😅

[@MinecraftMartin]

It's like being in a narcissistic relationship. Mandatory fun where we worship the company together, and when we decide our own lives have value as well, we're shamed for it.

[@chrism8180]

Not like, most employer/employee relations are narcissistic relationships

[@boblawblaw6185]

It feels like that because most people that are director level up to CEO either are sociopathic or psychopathic, or have characteristics of them, narcissism being a close bed fellow of the two. A lot of them steal people's work also or delegate work to you , you can't get recognition from. When you have CEO's paying journalists to write articles like this its how a psychopath telegraphs they are doing something wrong somewhere, without actually openly telling people what they are doing. So you're not crazy, a lot of terrible individuals are able to get up the corporate ladder because the top of the ladder many times is rotted and doesn't care or take into account people's morality when choosing those spots under them.

[@st0a]

Literally Narcissus and Echo type of relationships...

[@daveblackman816]

So basically, “workers need to just work 24/7 in their free time, to make sure the ceo and board members exceed their quarterly goals so they can have bigger bonuses. How dare they just do their basic job well! Not good enough!”

[@woodside4life]

And sacrifice your firstborn child to the Organization while you’re at it, thank you.

[@rejectionistmanifesto8836]

If you don't mind being a lifelong debt slave go for marriage or getting pregnant so companies can exploit you know your expenses are 100 to 1000 fold of a single person. People will enocurage uou to feed the machine cheap slave baby future workers just without thinking like cattle if everyone should join this high expense lifestyle full of stress, money worries, constant work...etc.

[@hackmedia7755]

@@woodside4life sacrifice your first born to gender identity and woke politics then have them cut off or mutilate their genitals without parental consent. Then cry themselves to sleep knowing they cant have kids. Then be brainwashed to be employees instead of an independent business owner.

[@Foreverfreeusa]

woodside4life- You're clearly quiet quiting and a bad employee by stealing companys time to have a child. How dare you!

[@specter2k]

And then "lay you off" or "right size" or "position no longer exists" once you've been worked. They get their massive pay offs and you got the "opportunity".

[@tallskinnygeek]

The term quiet quitting bugs me in particular, and I think I finally have my finger on why. Because it references the job expectations, it means if you interview at a job, and they say, "We're looking for someone that will regularly go above and beyond for our customer, work 60-70 hours, depending on how busy things are, and be available 24/7 whenever issues arise", then that sets the bar for what's expected, and you can rationally consider: is this paying enough to work that hard? Is that a schedule I can accomodate? On the other hand, if you interview, and they lie to you, actually have those highly demanding expectations, but tell you "We don't expect more than 40 hours, 9-5 Monday to Friday", then You become the "quiet quitter" when you hold them to their lie - that was part of the negotiations right alongside salary, and benefits. Even more bizarrely, the guy at the first job that puts in 60-70 hours is also somehow a quiet quitter if he doesn't go even further beyond that when able. Quiet quitting is "expecting your employer to be honest" labeled incorrectly.

[@FlipTheBard]

If companies paid good salaries and respected their workers, none of this would be happening and everyone would be moderately happy.

[@Perfidion]

But... rEtUrNs To ShArEhOlDeRs!

[@danielhall6477]

Forget 'and'. Even 'or' would work. If you can't afford to pay workers well, you better at least treat them well. The number of employers who pay crap wages and then have the gall to act like assholes to their employees is mind-boggling. Putting up with bullshit is a job requirement that ups the pay requirements.

[@FlipTheBard]

@@danielhall6477 Yeah but it is "settling for less"(a.k.a. either one of the options) that also contributed to the current situation(with workers accepting whatever was given to them even if it wasn't "the best option").

[@blablup1214]

I don't know what you mean. My company shut down coffee machines because corona.and no one was in the office. Now we are back in the office and we have one coffee machine, for 3 Buldings, don't know what you mean....

[@JMDAmigaMusic]

Naah not satisfying enough for their narcissism - they need us in slavery

[@owenb8636]

When employees stop complaining, that's when you know they're done.

[@debeb5148]

Nah, that's just called a normal society where you are a vesicle for another's capital. Take the blue pill, accept your worthlessness.

[@PratosKS]

Company treats employees like shit. Employees are upset and tell other people about how they are treated. Company: Surprised Pikachu face.

[@pantherman8719]

Lollll right?

[@princessmarlena1359]

Pretty much sums up the “Loud Quitting” nonsensical buzzwords by these corporate despots.

[@ynmonroe]

You will suffer quietly and love it! That's the message apparently.

[@fredmercury1314]

Employee signs employment contract. Company does exactly what is in the employment contract. Lazy employee complains that they want more money for no extra work. Employee upsets themselves because they're a generally miserable and lazy person and tells lies on Twitter. Company: Surprized Pikachu face

[@isaiahcoleman967]

You skipped over employers lying about pay bumps, abuse, gaslighting, and gossiping

[@jenniferwilson5918]

I was actually just terminated for Loud Quitting. Apparently, it wasn't in my best interest to voice that we need more staff at the Hospital before someone dies. WTH!!!😂😂😂

[@PublicLeeSpeaking]

So, there's at least 8.8 trillion dollars of Wage Theft each year? Because that's what it's called when people do work without being paid.

[@LudwigVaanArthans]

no no no no, it's money that rightfully belongs to the CEOs, company "leaders" and shareholders.Without them, where would those people work at, hmm? A company that pays them fairly instead? Don't be childish

[@ubiwrongcomeatme3452]

That one went right to the nads. Why is violence not allowed to be advocated for, again? Oh yeah, those rich fucks who made the rules. Curious. The same ones who use violence in order to enforce their bullshit. I wonder why...I wonder what *they're afraid* of. Whatever it is they're scared of...These people must be smart enough to know that their fears are valid, should they keep squeezing in fear.

[@Bunny01879]

Imagine the potential that consumers would have with 8.8 trillion more dollars. I'd go so far as to say it would revolutionize all economic sectors and push investments in new companies that could take advantage/compete with mega corporations without even specifically breaking their monopoly powers

[@dadbodenvy4247]

@@Bunny01879 but then they couldn't afford a 7th yacht. It's like you don't even care about the wealthy

[@LudwigVaanArthans]

@@Bunny01879 how would the wealthy pay 250k buckaroos for a one-way death trip to the Titanic if they started having competition, hm? Just work without wanting to be paid, you'll own nothing and be happy, believe me, a guy from Davos said so

[@ladyseeker2927]

I was one of those. For two years I felt absolutely miserable in my work place. I saw the boot lickers getting raises and promotions while I worked my ass off and had only a small raise. I saw the sales sector being over privileged, while the customer assistance worked while the sales people where in their friday happy hour. So I started to vocalize how things really worked there to all the newbies. Of course I was fired, because I didn't "saw myself in the corporate culture". Today I'm in a much better place, doing a job that I love. The best thing that happened to be was to be fired from that hell hole.

[@maxwellsimon4538]

If only these corporations could just give raises and solve all the issues they artificially create

[@MrNathan07]

They won't so in order to get a raise you have to apply to another job as company loyalty & respect isn't a thing anymore, but don't tell them you are though!

[@AFuller2020]

What corpos, Sesame Street, Starbucks or NPR?

[@freedustin]

@@MrNathan07 That doesn't work. Every job pays the same gig wages now.

[@hackmedia7755]

instead of raises, replace corporations with cooperatives, employee-owned companies, or profit-share programs.

[@thepro08]

ALO WHY THE CEO CAN HAVE 100XOR 1000X TIMES THE WAGE AND BONUS AND THE WORKS NOT? WANT RESPONSABILITY PAY FOR IT...... IF NOT WORK THE LESS POSSIBLE AS THE WAGE IS THE SAME. PERIOD

[@thomaslawrence6353]

I remember back in 2014 when I "LOUD QUIT" my job working for the railroad as a railcar mechanic. This was due to the rail company purposefully breaking parts on the trains to charge the railcar owners for more repairs and for ignoring safety guidelines to make the company more money. I Loud Quit the hell out of that job.

[@blackdragoness21]

Rightfully so! That is terrifying!

[@montecristo1845]

Employees should write articles that have titles like: “Dear CEO, It’s not me, it’s you!” or “If I’m Not Doing Enough, Why Haven’t You Fired Me?”

[@freedustin]

Don't forget: "It's not my fault you are perpetually understaffed for over 3 years now." "Skeleton crew on the busiest day = lots of mad customers = Bad management." edit: and then I forgot the most important one: "If it's so bad, then why are profits breaking records literally every quarter? And where's my raise?"

[@montecristo1845]

@@freedustin Excellent! ✊

[@blablup1214]

@@freedustin Maybe those are record breaking profits, but it COULD be MORE 😅

[@schwartz478]

They don't fire the person because they want to move the blame away from management onto the employee instead. Basically corporate exploitation/extortion

[@christophermorreall3454]

Don't forget we are a family and love and care about you. Why do you hate your job? We have great benefits and pay. While they treat you like a slave and get upset that everyone has a hard time getting the production but then decides to redo the production.

[@lokian1174]

"Damaging the company brand" is the way they WANT to say it when its really calling them out with insider proof for being liars and entitled overlords. And since when we call them out in a professional in company way they laugh us off we decide instead EVERYONE should hear it since external appearance means so much more than internal respect to them.

[@Jupiterxice]

Well...... Treat employees with dignity and stop overworking and underpaying them. Relationships are mutual and two way. Employers have understand boundaries.

[@AFuller2020]

Start your own biz, show us how it's done.

[@Jupiterxice]

@@AFuller2020 I am so that I never have to rely on one source income you charlatan manager lol

[@gamebozco]

It's never overworked or underpay. If terms change after employment to the employee dislike, the employee really should think for themselves and find a new employment.

[@if7723]

@@gamebozco ...because they're being overworked or underpayed?

[@Jupiterxice]

@@gamebozco spoken like true management lol. You expect person who is contracted to do your house with limited manpower and resources just not to pay more for meeting the project. See what I did there?

[@alexandre97843]

For someone that, according to their definition, has been quiet quitting almost every single job I had for the past 20 years like myself, seeing the world wake up and not simping like a whore for companies is extremely satisfying. For two decades, I've experienced the very bitter taste of needing to work for corporations and their shitty managers, some like really shitty people with their politics and arrogance, and now seeing people fighting back like this really warms my heart. I waited for this for a very long time... Thank God!

[@roflBeck]

People are finally being based. You love to see it.

[@debeb5148]

​@@roflBeckBeing offended at people or ignoring those who don't agree isn't based, it's diluted

[@JonathanVachon777]

There is shitty employes too. Dont be an hypocrite. Its bad both side

[@AkhtarReviews]

"Quiet" and "Loud" are extremes. I'm waiting for Moderate Quitting.

[@jamesordwayultralightpilot]

"Quite" isn't the word you were trying to say.

[@erubin100]

"If a quitter quits in the woods and no one hears then, do they make a sound?" -The next corporate slogan, probably

[@AkhtarReviews]

@@jamesordwayultralightpilot Edited.

[@fadisuleiman7197]

Slightly dissatisfied quitter

[@TheCarnivoreSoprano]

😅😅😅

[@DGPHolyHandgrenade]

Really curious where this trend of gaslighting the workforce is coming from. Companies are falling over themselves trying to justify tens of millions in bonuses for their CEO's, bragging about record profits, and yet at the same time saying that there's no budget for raises, no bonuses or significantly lower bonuses, and then turning around and complaining about the workforce that's actually doing their jobs as though that's a bad thing.

[@debeb5148]

It's your fault you didn't set the office to flames.

[@collegeman1988]

You’d think loud quitting would be an employee who showed up to work at the office, put the palms of his/her hands on their desk, stood up and shouted at the top of their lungs. “I’M QUITTING!” But no, that’s not what it is. It’s just more stupid corporate speak jargon. smh 🤦‍♂️

[@TheCarnivoreSoprano]

🎉

[@princessmarlena1359]

Yeah, it’s not like they’re taking a dump on their desk or work station.

[@JonathanVachon777]

​@@princessmarlena1359im a manager and i would have found that funny at the last job i was in. It would have been well deserved for a crappy company

[@veronstross2913]

I’m under the impression that executives are incapable of seeing average employees perspective. They get used to their positions and loose sight of what normal people have to deal with. Two totally different worlds.

[@JB-er7zz]

I can't stand the entitlement of bosses that expect you to work extra for no pay. It is not quitting to do the job I agreed to do for the pay agreed to give me. Also I swear if managers actually rewarded workers who worked extra no one would "quiet quit", instead they always dangle the carrot of a promotion of a bonus but never give it. It is borderline gaslighting. No sane boss would give me a raise in exchange no no guaranteed extra work and me simply to "look into working harder" whenever I decide to review it. Why would any sane worker agree to extra work with no concrete reward?

[@freedustin]

No one does quiet quit. It's an entirely made up concept that doesn't exist in the real or business world.

[@gokublack8342]

All the morons that buried themselves in student loans and went to college 😂

[@elstongunn4277]

What employers will actually do is to “reinvent” your Job Description and then have you reapply for it along with everybody else. Your Job Description gets changed right out from under you. They can do that, and they absolutely will. And guess what? The “new Job Description” includes more work and more responsibility, and you have no control over it. So you can either leave, or try to reapply for the extra work, which in essence is you agreeing to the “enhanced” job description. Often at the same or minimal salary increase.

[@voidspirit111]

this used to be the way because in the past you had to "earn" the promotion. But because some assholes thought they can just bait ppl with this, they ruined a trust that was build over a few decades of work.. Now, it will be hard to see where bosses actually promote someone for hard work or not , because you will see less and less ppl try to get promotions that way. Most will just do the work and play the change job for promotion game or the office politics/ friends game for promotion.

[@briankulesz9410]

@@voidspirit111 I worked at a company as you describe. They wanted you to perform at the 'next level' for 1-2 years to 'prove' yourself before they even considered you for that promotion.

[@gnosis7188]

I went through 4 supervisors in 1 year at work. They've changed my position 3 times in 3 months, I'm overworked and underpaid. I've been really vocal about the working conditions at my job lately, it's a union, blue collar job, if I don't speak up, they will only undermine the workers, and force us to do more with less. I no longer care if they get rid of me, I dare them to find somebody that will be able to maintain my workload for the miniscule compensation. I'm currently pursuing other opportunities. Proud Loud quitter here.

[@xenosayain1506]

Saaame. Went from doing a clerk job at a warehouse with basic logistics to clerk ing, Hilo work, and receiving all at once because of a labor shortage when they slashed starting pay. They were also shocked at the number of applicants dropping for some reason.

[@emmasarge4057]

Does your company not know just how hard it is to replace experienced workers? They're truly stupid if you are not being properly compensated - and they'll just have to learn the hard way. Your next best job is around the corner, Sir.

[@csensale]

We have that “do more with less” problem in the butcher shop at a supermarket A lot are jumping ship

[@gerekgerek9042]

@@csensale I see the same in industrial manufacturing, the workers and engineers keep getting more functions while they refuse to hire more or train us but they just keep opening and filling manager positions, give them the best training etc. and wonder why their outputs keep getting worse and the returned products for manufacturing defect percentage gets higher every year.

[@CyborgWolf]

Today I had my yearly doctor mandated apointment. The work doctor told me "you know, you do a lot of remote working and you should socialize more". Like, dude I don't need nor want work to socialize; I do that on my free time. Leave me tf alone. "Do you see yourself working remote for the next 30 years?" Honestly I don't even see myself working for the next 30 years but if I have to, i'll say in the confort of my own home yeah; I see it.

[@stickyfox]

I have trouble imagining myself surviving the next 30 years when I look at employment trends.

[@BeautifulEarthJa]

Work doctor? Wow. Everyday I get more examples of how usa is a dystopia.

[@Maki-00]

Why do they assume that people who work remotely don’t socialize? We socialize with our family and REAL friends, not stupid coworkers who we barely even like! I’m introverted and I don’t really need to see anyone on a regular basis anyway! 😂

[@aleksandergrzybowski8899]

@@BeautifulEarthJa Ah, not really. In Poland we have mandatory checkup every 2-4 years, but for IT workers it's 90% eyesight tests (maybe a bit more if your work requires driving) and some basic questionnaire.

[@CyborgWolf]

@@BeautifulEarthJa i'm french lol

[@GenK1991]

I worked my ass off at my job, trained my entire team, (including my boss) lead our S&OP. Only got a 4% raise, so I created a report that does all he work for me that normally takes a month, in 2 hours, thats how I quit. And when I actually do quit im taking my report with me 😂

[@emmasarge4057]

Yes!

[@khanhcao3123]

​@@Scufflordstps report?

[@ourtube4266]

I’d be careful about that if your terms of employment say that anything you create on the clock legally belongs to your employer.

[@me-myself-i787]

​@@ourtube4266Maybe he made it off-the-clock.

[@MisterNumber6]

Hope you password protect it, so the report can't be accessed.

[@saifullahhabid1133]

I'm surprised corporations haven't tried to silence you Josh . Thanks for the videos mate

[@chuckchan4127]

They will once they need a scapegoat and their corporate lawyers suggest it.

[@erubin100]

After Josh goes missing for about a month, we'll know...

[@tinaanastopoulos9242]

What are they gonna do? Fire him? 😂

[@chuckchan4127]

@@tinaanastopoulos9242 Send goons to his home like Wizards of the Coast did to that one person.

[@Nebulous1225]

As long as we can watch videos about these topics and commiserate in the comments they know we will be satisfied and take no further action

[@insomicraiddict]

As an employer, if you have a job, you are not allowed to complain. I mean I'm paying your bills! The least you can do is devote every once of your being to the progression of my company. Employee's really stress me out sometimes, I mean they make me take my private jet that I HAD to buy from last years bonus to recharge my mind at my condo in Hawaii so I can come up with more ideas for our work culture that everyone needs to assimilate to.

[@PinkNintendoDuo87]

Basically, you just want a bunch of mindless slaves to work for you and that ONLY the top executives get fair pay? Go figure (sarcasm). I hope to NEVER work for organizations like yours (and they eventually go out of business)! 👈😑🖕

[@cookiegirl891]

Lmaooo I really thought u were serious in the first half 😭

[@Nerobyrne]

The scariest story about "Greedflation" (love that btw) was when an upper-middle class couple said that TOGETHER, they couldn't save money at the same rate as housing prices were rising. So, basically, they were saving all the money they could, and still getting FARTHER away from their goal of buying their dream home. While they were both working. That's absolutely insane!

[@AFuller2020]

Not sure why it's called a "dream home", it's a place to live, eat, sleep etc.

[@shoazdon7000]

@@AFuller2020a home is so much more than that

[@wrestlingPC]

Their goal is to enslave the common people financially. like a two-tier class system...Those that have unfathomable amounts of money and get do whatever they want with no consequences and those that live paycheck to paycheck and have to do what they are told or risk losing their livelihood. It happened during c-vid with the vacs, now imagine things become more expensive and your employer says you have to eat Beyond burgers and take a monthly injection, or risk being fired.

[@TeHj0keR]

pretty sure it's called hyperinflation

[@Nerobyrne]

@@TeHj0keR this is better because it identifies the cause. Also "hyper" makes it seem way too high

[@7th808s]

My version of quiet quitting is simply doing chores in the house during working hours, or taking a nap when I feel like when I work from home. But I prefer to call it "stealing my time back".

[@OmniLiquid]

The idea that any time you are "on the clock" is time that you must devote to the preferences of the company is one of the most perverse inventions the factories have ever produced.

[@tumultoustortellini]

@@OmniLiquid In isolation of the presedent set during that time, when off-the-clock actually mattered just as much and people were paid their worth, it was a perfectly fine concept that encouraged all the efficiency and "cohesion" they were bidding for. It's only in the modern day, where no time is you time and where they indoctrinate you like a cult, where it's become preverse. As usual, moderation is key.

[@OmniLiquid]

@@tumultoustortellini I disagree. I think the factories too quickly changed the mode of thought from a person doing a job, where the expectation is that the worker is first and foremost a person, who happens to be doing something that needs to get done, to a person being a job, where the factory worker is a machine that twists part B into slot C, the cashier is a machine that rings up the items and collects payment, and much in the way a keyboard plugs into a computer for interfacing by a user, an office worker is plugged into a computer for interfacing by a manager, who is plugged in for interfacing by their higher up, etc. This expectation that when you are working you are not an independent human, but a company's "human resource", is the perversion I am speaking of. Of course, slavery was doing the same and worse long before the factories, so it wasn't exactly brand new either.

[@paul-young]

Yes. Especially if you are the single only person in the household. Time is valuable - can' t hardly get anything done for yourself by devoting the whole entire day to work.

[@deino4753]

Lol loud quitting. Whats next, "inside voice quitting", "speed applying"?

[@Keisuki]

64 dB quitting, 65 dB quitting, 66 dB quitting...

[@MahalGC]

Slow quitting, where you finally retire but the company decides to take away your pension.

[@Keisuki]

@@MahalGC Fast quitting, when you decide you want to start looking for a new job, and the company finds out and responds by immediately firing you

[@TKnuckles333]

I love it. CEOs and execs are going batshit trying to figure out how to get their worker bees back into their shitty offices.

[@gabsasusual]

cough cough IBM

[@lyrebird712]

"Opposing its leaders" is a very interesting one to me. In my experience, both as an employee and one of those leaders in question, the opposition is usually sent with the intention to make things better. Managers, CEOs, and "leaders" need to realize that their employees voicing opposition like this isn't always uncalled for. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say it is usually very much called for. If these "leaders" would just listen to the critique then they'll probably get a better business in the end anyway. I do this with my employees, co-workers, and volunteers (I operate in the nonprofit space). I don't even have the luxury of paying many folks that "work for me" and they still want to stick around for some reason. It's almost like valuing the input of others creates a better work environment that people might actually enjoy?!

[@Bella.Parabellum]

I used to work for this one lawyer, who had a small firm and several employees working for her. One of the employees was my friend, who worked for this woman for a long time, knew that business well, and had many ideas and suggestions for improvements that actually made sense. How did the boss react to these suggestions? She took great offence at the fact that some employee pleb is trying to "tell her how to run her business". 🤦🏼‍♀️ At the end of it all, my friend simply quit (despite that boss begging her to stay), and is currently working on developing a business of her own. It's not law-related, but promises to be far more successful than that of that boss who took offence at someone "trying to be smarter" than her... How to lose a good employee 101 😂

[@daniellebrackett4905]

My current director says that you don't quit a job, you quit your boss. There's certainly a grain of truth to that. I'm okay with a little less money if my supervisor treats me like an adult (no favoritism, clear and reasonable expectations), values my opinion, and takes the time to explain the logic of decisions that impact the team.

[@D64nz]

I found a secret motivater for my work when I moved from one industry to another. With one simple trick I was able to show up more, let alone actually start doing over time, with proper overtime rates of course, and taking an active interest in my work. Yeah, it was just money. It's really that simple. That said as the worker shortage goes on I have a personal policy of every time my company pisses me off I apply for a new job. I make no secret that I'm looking at other companies or the reasons why. It's not loud quitting, it's loud job searching. I also make sure to educate other staff about their indivdual rights and what their job is and isn't, and what options they have, and what to say if they are asked to do something outside of their normal tasks.

[@MercenaryTau]

Starting to feel like this is a tactic to waive off Unemployment Insurance claims (in Canada, at least). You can't collect if you quit, you have to be laid off but if you submit a claim, what's keeping them from trying "He 'loud/quiet quit' months ago"

[@richardkenan2891]

Nah. Employers know what it takes to deny an employee their unemployment benefits. Corporate buzzwords aren't it. This is a desperate attempt - rather, a series of desperate attempts - to rebuild the toxic culture of employee loyalty. Employees took the red pill, and woke up to the reality that they were way more invested in their employers than was healthy, much less than was reciprocated. So they started to treat their employers the same way their employers had been treating employees for decades now. And, no surprise, employers don't like it.

[@BadStructuralEngineeringFirms]

One way to fix this is to record your employer. Employers will make up anything not to pay out unemployment. With a recording and emails, you can turn the tables on them. The city of Austin tried to get out of paying unemployment but forgot I was a Licensed Professional Engineer. They claimed I was insubordinate. The problem with that is that I was asked to approve unsafe structures in violation of my professional license. The city of Austin got hit with major penalties for trying to get out of paying unemployment.

[@ilovecoffeev]

​@@kimilsungthefirst6840pretty sure it would fall under "insubordination"...

[@SKBottom]

​​@@ilovecoffeevnsubordination depends on your point of view. I had that tried on me once. I reminded the arbitrator and my former employer that I wasn't a slave and I had the right to voice opinions. I won.

[@BigDaddyJinx]

slight correction there. In Canada, you most certainly can collect even if you quit but there has to be a valid reason for the quitting. Unsafe work environment? Valid. Bully boss? Valid. Unruly coworkers? Valid. Unfair treatment? Valid. Boss didn't give them a raise or promotion that they don't deserve but insist that they do? Not valid.

[@albertmarnell9976]

Thank you for seeing, cutting through and speaking about the bullshit. Most people are totally suggestible, vulnerable and naive.

[@sangha1486]

I'm a whispering quitter Whenever I'm assigned an unpleasant task, I roll my eyes and sigh. He'll figure it out someday

[@jessiehogue.]

Oooh, oooh, oooh! Let's invent more new ones! I wanna be a Howling Quitter. When assigned unpleasant tasks, I'm gonna raise my head towards the sky and scream.

[@sangha1486]

@@jessiehogue. I'm a Whoopie Cushion quitter Whenever I'm assigned an unpleasant task, I make a stink

[@jessiehogue.]

@@sangha1486 How about a Groovy Quitter? Whenever assigned an unpleasant task... you just start dancin' like there's no tomorrow and try to get other people to join you.

[@jzmina]

My company (I’ll let you guess which one) in no way public represents my values, morals, or beliefs. AND YET there is a looming expectation on me (an engineer) to promote and vouch for brands under severe PR/marketing nightmares in my personal time. Coworkers and management glare at me when I don’t looked bought in enough to their weird loyalty. I do better work faster when I do my desk job from home, instead of in our open layout “office”. My boss frequently reminds me to ask permission before working remote even though nothing in my contract, orientation, or team expectations stipulate I have to do anything of the sort. I work here because they pay well and have good benefits, not because I “believe in the brand” or “enjoy the company culture”.

[@nasis18]

I kinda feel the term "quiet quitting" is misleading. It doesn't really convey what it means. My grandfather was a union worker for GM. Their motto was "work the contract". Which is the same as quiet quiting, but not nearly as misleading.

[@xenosayain1506]

That's the goal. Smear merchants make good slogans. Just baffles my brain. Imagine telling a contractor to remodel the bathroom for free after only paying for the kitchen...but for some reason corporate jobs expect exactly thag

[@nasis18]

@xenosayain1506 yeah, true. Josh is always saying in his videos these are just buzzwords and how stupid they are.

[@cedleonard123]

"kinda feel"? big understatement! It's corporate propaganda intended to lie to employees and evade scrutiny. It's psychological manipulation and abuse via linguistics.

[@wrestlingPC]

I get to complain! When I was working night shift my lead would push us to work extra hard to produce 1.5-2x the number of painted spacers (for windows) than the earlier shift. I busted my ass and took pride in being a hard worker.... this is what I got in return, I had to come in an extra hour early on Sundays to turn the factory on, my shift had to work 2 extra hours of overtime every other month for 3 weeks minimum (the company started selling more spacers, no hint at a raise). My manager would blame me for things he messed up. My boss yelled at me for not clocking in 7-5 mins early (even though we get paid in 15 min increments so that 7-5 mins was unpaid, and we would get yelled at if we clocked in 8 mins early because that would have clocked us in for the prior 15 min before our shift started). We were threatened to have our phones taken away because other shifts were slacking off. Had to stand up all night and my back would start killing, but we couldn't sit down, or we would get yelled at. Sometimes the supervisor would ask us how we were doing, but most of the time it was to tell us we had to work overtime. It was soul sucking to be honest. Oh, and I was only making $18 an hour. The American Dream lmao.

[@anobjectivereview]

Funny how the managers miss the office. Perhaps they are bored at home with no one to stand over and demean…

[@BadStructuralEngineeringFirms]

Managers also want employees they can exploit and harass. That is why they want people back in the office.

[@roflBeck]

Man, I miss the Office. I wish they'd make a new season of it!

[@josephj6521]

When I hear my manager go on and on about corporate requirements and reasons we need to work harder for less money, I switch off. I take all my entitlements and more (more than I used to). I don’t give them an extra minute of work anymore. I hope karma gets these bastards.

[@RoLee705]

Josh please do a series on overcoming narcissists. I know you have other projects, too, but please. Your approach is so important and relatable. You really have a knack for that sort of content. Thanks for your time!

[@recruitcrm]

Well put! Loud quitting can be quite challenging for companies. Hopefully they'll understand employees' concerns better🤞

[@DavidLee-zn4no]

Loud quitting is definitely the right term for it cuz whenever I quit it's definitely loud as possible

[@computerguy1579]

I have been lucky and have enjoyed the jobs I've had so far in my career. The thing that these articles don't ever realize is that the employee/employer relationship is a business relationship. Both should be engaged in a mutually beneficial relationship, and that's not always easy to align. In my opinion, if the business wants their workers to be more dedicated to the business, they should offer employees shares of the company or profit-sharing bonuses. If the company is truly transparent and shares their profits in the form of bonuses with their employees, there will be more employees working harder because there is a tangible benefit to their work. Because the above scenario is not always possible or easy, there are always going to be people who are paid strictly on salary, and they really shouldn't be working more than their 40 hours because then they're just devaluing their time, and will ultimately burn out when the extra time they're putting in isn't resulting in any greater raises, promotions or rewards. Lastly, I'm not against climbing the corporate ladder, and if an employee wants to climb the corporate ladder then they can work harder or longer, but only in the view of learning the skills to get a job at a higher level elsewhere or to learn how the business works to potentially start their own. That employee should only stay at the current company if that company recognizes those efforts and promotes the employee with the same kind of raise that employee could get elsewhere.

[@PepeToTheMooon]

These rich CEOs really cant imagine only having one or two yachts, don’t you know that they need at least 10?? Think of the CEOS!! -writer of that article, probably

[@grifonecoronato]

If employers don't want their workers complaining around the water cooler, they shouldn't have mandated return-to-the-office policies.

[@ColinIngus1]

For HRs next trick - mandated solitary scheduled visits to water cooler to ensure maximum of 1 person at a time.

[@kilgoreT010]

Or remove the water cooler.

[@SamBrickell]

*5:08* "loud quitters may actively undermine employers' goals and can damage the brand when it comes to attracting new employees" So? That in itself isn't important. If an employee tells the truth and it "damages the brand when it comes to attracting new employees" the truth still should have a voice.

[@vaughneudy3003]

if being honest damages the brand, the brand was a lost cause to begin with

[@skyranger1366]

Loud quitting might have prevented Ocean gate

[@marydragon5101]

Honestly we really need it to be where as soon as they say "loud quitting" the response is "you mean whistleblower?" Just to really see if we can reverse this one on them

[@unicorn73212]

Yeah it's someone that disrupts the atmosphere when they quit, don't do this it makes you look dumb a lot of times these people quit loudly because there not understanding what the manager is telling them if someone cut my hours like that I would quietly look for an overnight job, accept 10-30 hours a week and fill in for the people that keep calling in. You have to be willing to play the game then they will start respecting you especially if they can tell you don't want to be there but you stopped everything you were doing to fill in for this guy that quit loudly.

[@nunoromao6875]

These studies have such a level of bias, that it isn't even funny anymore! Just more corporate nonsense, without a proper "study" actually being done! These are what I call articles of opinion, without any solid foundation to present their thesis. Thanks Josh for continuing to call out this corporate cringe!

[@BadStructuralEngineeringFirms]

I laugh whenever corporations put out these articles because I no longer feel sorry for them anymore. Psychological safety means not pissing your boss off because it hurts his safety. DEI is another way to get out of hiring competent workers without thinking about the business. EaP programs are a way for employers to get dirt on you before you are fired. Employee surveys are another way to get rid of employees. Integrity people use wrongdoing as a way to fire people who report wrongdoing.

[@filthyfrankblack4067]

All of these articles are coming from one source.. 'The washington post' owned by Bezos. I don't believe any of this stuff wrote by A.I. and re-wrote by bots.

[@battleoid2411]

​@@BadStructuralEngineeringFirmsAnymore? You felt anything for these giant corporations?

[@ariesmry]

@@BadStructuralEngineeringFirmsas someone who did a stint in the devils asshole (corporate-HR in the US), SOME of these aren’t that insidious. this is what those acronyms really mean: Psychological safety- don’t do anything that can get the company sued. Everything else is fair game. DEI- pr/marketing made so that it appears a company cares about diversity, equity and inclusion, without creating any meaningful policies or work-culture changes. Was very trendy in 2020. EaP- bottom tier benefits/services that are incredibly cheap for the company but usually inconvenient to access or too short-term to be impactful. If it’s dealing with mental health, confidentiality and HIPAA are still very real and legal constructs. Just like how your medical insurance thru your employer isn’t sharing with your job the results of your testicle exam, EaP’s aren’t willing to break the law to tell your employer that your marriage sucks. Integrity reporting and and employee surveys, if done by a third-party service/software, typically have anonymity built into the system. If it’s managed strictly in-house, you’re not in corporate, you’re in a start-up and probably too deep into the cult to notice it’s a cult.

[@WillKlein]

Perfect take. I've been a loud quitter for a while. Fortunately, some of my higher ups actually listen and though they can't fix everything, they have a clear take on what problems they are dealing with and actually understand their team members better. I also helped a newcomer get hired... while also telling them about everything that's not great about the workplace. They know what they're getting themselves into and it will likely mean they have a much healthier experience because of realistic expectations.

[@gokublack8342]

When I worked and you made me mad enough to complain I'm already very close to walking

[@yuriib5483]

at this functional Fortune 20 something we call it psychological safety. Psychological safety is the belief that one will not be punished or humiliated for speaking up with ideas, questions, concerns, or mistakes1. It is a concept where members of a team believe that they are free to speak their minds with work-related ideas and concerns with others in the team. They are encouraged to question, discuss, and evaluate problems and issues. Fear of negative consequences is not present here

[@elstongunn4277]

Ha, ha. Yes, you “ talk, discuss, share, “deep-dive” into issues, evaluate”, but nothing is ever done. It’s just a bitch-fest where employees unload, commiserate with each other, and then it just dies there. Or some minimal change is made, with vague promises to “work on the other issues to address concerns and come to a reasonable resolution.”

[@thelastscion92]

Seen a few of your videos. Just subscribed. I AM passionate about my work in EVERY workplace, but it's NEVER seen. I usually average 3-4 months a job, as a food service employee(line/prep cook, dishwashing, bussing, delivery, etc.). I've also worked in retail at several places and delivering for Amazon DSP's, same stories. I put in good work and try to thrive, it isn't noticed and I'm constantly asked to do more and more, I get reprimanded for LITERAL PHISICAL EXHAUSTION preventing me from completing excessive deadlines and workloads compared to my peers, all with no extra compensation or recognition until I get so betrayed I no call no show. It's really hard to not quit like that when you do so much extra just trying to be good to your comrades in this whole workplace war, then get repetitively stabbed in the back by those who are supposed to lead you. These people are tyrannical dictators, and it's a violent political war with no physical force that they wage on us. I say war, because it has literally directly led to the deaths of people who are supposed to be from the same country due to starvation, homelessness, mental health breaks leading to both homicides and suicides, drug addiction and all to gain a few extra bucks on the company bottom end. Then, after operating like that continuosly and mercilessly, they turn around and spout this blasphemy against humanity with no regard for even those who actually tried to listen to the nonsense and conform in the name of survival. It likely will be our destruction....

[@woodside4life]

“Loud Quitting Way More Extreme Than Quiet Quitting” 🤔…

[@BadStructuralEngineeringFirms]

Because it keeps employees alert about the bad environment caused by their bosses and upper management.

[@jackcarraway4707]

As frustrating as your job could be, don't voice your complaints to coworkers or let it be known at work; that will only make things worse.

[@chancepaladin]

unfortunately, staying quiet is they want. they dont want whistleblowers.

[@jackcarraway4707]

​​​​​@@chancepaladinUnless they're doing something illegal, it isn't worth it. If the BS gets to the point of being intolerable and affecting your mental health, look for another job.

[@chrism8180]

Sometimes, other times you encourage others and create waves

[@MercenaryTau]

I was lucky enough that I worked somewhere transparent enough to have manager training material open to everyone but this is also one of those Pandora's Box situations. Instead of referring to people as Employees or Workers, they straight up use the term "Resources" and they believe that work-related-stress is more valuable to these Resources than their actual wage. example; An employee is overwhelmed at work and at home so quits so she can start her dream job of being a painter but also take care of everything going on at home, etc. Months later, she's established with a steady flow of clients but isn't happy. Why? Because she doesn't have enough stress, obviously! And what about too much stress? You can just take pills for that!

[@pedromoura1446]

As someone with severe anxiety yes... What i would like is MORE stress so i get more anxious and spend more on medication thank you for asking...

[@Here4TheHeckOfIt]

This makes zero sense

[@BishopBrow]

It's like blaming the victim of domestic violence for complaining about their beating.

[@debeb5148]

You know, they could leave at anytime tho

[@BishopBrow]

@@debeb5148 if you’re willing to deal with the uncertainty of finding a job and the disruption to your bills and the disruption to your groceries, then yeah sure. Add to that that employers regularly break the rules and speak poorly of you behind your back to your new employer which is really common so common it’s difficult to trust them as a reference they even do it to good employees out of spite. If you have more than one job lined up, sure you can easily just drop the bad employer for most of us. We’re not so far ahead that we can simply do that.

[@debeb5148]

​@@BishopBrowYou're already doing that going to work as is. If you hate your life so much, maybe jump off a balcony. Nothing is going to change for the better, and don't expect it too. In other words, it's your fault for being worthless to begin with. You aren't the victim, you're BELOW that

[@williamguru]

This is a great example of how pollsters pander to the business establishment and create surveys that reinforce the interest of those businesses. Who commissioned the survey, and what does Gallup get out of it?

[@BadStructuralEngineeringFirms]

Reminds me of Austin City Manager Marc Ott doing a city employee survey. After the survey was done, he refused to release it because it made him look bad. He was forced to release the unflattering survey after the city was sued.

[@elstongunn4277]

Gallup lost its credibility a loooooooooong time ago :).

[@corvus8638]

Gallup is just a propaganda organization

[@chrismessy]

Im so happy i found this channel. After i got laid off by Thermo Fisher my mental health and actual health have gone down the drain. Im still trying to financially recover. I have go somehow come up with the rest of my rent money i need and also wait to buy groceries until after i get my first pay check again, happy i have a start date but idk if im even gonna have an apartment at that point. But you talking about these things makes me remember im bot the only one going through this. I went above and beyond for that company and in the end none of it paid off.

[@boxdynomite3]

I'm reminded of a video I saw making a case against unions. The probles they never touch are the working conditions that cause people to unionize. They want you to feel bad for the business for not making the profit margins they want.

[@elstongunn4277]

This is just so bad what businesses have turned in to. Yes, there was a time when there were small businesses who knew and valued their employees. They paid them right, had pensions set up for their employees, health benefits, and the employees felt connected with their work and the business. Then the “corporatation” began. Big companies bought out small businesses, the changes were at first small and implemented slowly, but then ramped up and the employees were fed BS to keep them in check and keep their loyalty. “Pizza Fridays,” and regular “Ice Cream Socials” were held to overfeed and soothe any employee concerns. The old executives were replaced with “CEOs” and “COOs” who lived in large Eastern cities where the parent company was headquartered. The squeeze was on, and employees eventually recognized it. There were no more “inside hires” for new job positions. New jobs were filled not with people who knew the particular business and the products it made or produced. Jobs were filled with “Marketing Consultants,” “Strategic Optimization Specialists” or some other buzzword BS role. Remember the ol’ “Our Employees Are Our Most Important Asset” that made the Top Five Tag Lines companies blasted out? Ha. Their actions shouted the exact opposite, and employees began to hear it loud and clear. Ever hear of the company Booze Allen Hamilton? If you ever hear that “consultants” from that company are meeting with executives of your company, you’d better run for the hills. Because they were always brought in under the guise that “they are going to interview employees about their jobs, and then gather all that information and make recommendations on how they can make “your” job easier and more efficient. Which means they are looking to replace you and your job with outsourcing, technology, or by combining it with another job. It’s just so sad to see the collapse and dismantling of the American business within a few short decades. The only good news, I guess, is that corporations are no longer trying to hide their disdain and lack of respect of their employees anymore behind dumb “Employee Appreciation Days,” “Who Hid My Cheese?” Books and seminars and other Pep Talk tripe. They just openly plot against their employees now.

[@Fredman5551]

Your perception of history is...wrong. historically, small business didnt offer benefits or a pension.

[@elstongunn4277]

@@Fredman5551 No, it is not. I’ve worked for them. And by “small,” I mean 300-600 people. Which by today’s standards is small. They were legacy businesses that were well known in their particular industry: Walter-Drake, Current, Inc., Shepard’s Citations, John Wiley, Matthew-Bender Book Publishers, and thousands of other businesses where the middle-class found good, stable employment and formed the backbone of the American economy.

[@Fredman5551]

@@elstongunn4277 it is. Corporations have existed longer than your 20-30 years of employment. They didnt magically appear in the 90s. Secondly, if 300-600 employees is small, whats 50 employees? Tiny? Is 1000 employees midsized? How are you measuring this? Gartner, and other organizations have always classified small businesses as fewer than 50-100 employees depending on the industry and annual revenue. Misdized less than 999. Its changed and shifted slightly over the years, but has more or less remained the same for decades. All those companies you mentioned were not small businesses. And if this is what this audience considers a small business, it's no wonder you hate everything. Youre going to work for a place that has "inc" in its name and thinking your working a "small business" while complaining about corporations ruining everything.

[@elstongunn4277]

@@Fredman5551 Where did I ever say that corporations didn’t exist until the 1990s? Do you always make up things to say in your posts?? Where do you get the idea that I hate everything? Like what do I hate? Again, you are just throwing out statements that make no sense and are false. Do you even know what you are saying? And yes, small businesses can have “Incorporated” in their name. It has absolutely nothing to do with their number of employees. I know, because I owned such a business. Clearly, you are punching above your weight in this discussion. I suggest you leave and find another discussion more suitable to your limitations.

[@Fredman5551]

@@elstongunn4277 I’m taking what you said and asking questions. you said “there was a time when small businesses..” And then immediately followed up with “then the corporations began” After I questioned your timeline, you insisted it was true because you worked for companies that experienced it. You’re either 260 years old or are full of shit and talking about something. Because corporations have been buying smaller companies since forever. I did you the favor of assuming you’re in your 50s and we’re working in the 90s when the pensions started to dry up; to try and make your timeline make sense…I can see I was wrong because you made it up. I also questioned your categorizing of what a small business is. Something you ignored entirely because you know it’s subjective to your feelings and not any objective metric or even reality. Much easier to derail the convo eh? Because if you acknlowfgr you were working for corporations you spoke highly of, and not small businesses, your entire viewpoint of the world crumbles Inc stands for corporation. So now we’re stuck. You believe Corporations killed the small business but small business can also be corporations? So which is it? Unless youre alluding to simply paying the filing fee and writing BS bylaw so you can get tax protection. small businesses (actual small businesses not what I feel a small business is) have no need to do this if they’re above board. That’s what the LLC is for. You still haven’t even acknowledged your definition of small business isn’t grounded in anything. Look dude, I’m sure in your life the people around you let you talk and never check you. Maybe you’re physically large, maybe you’re just loud. But don’t get it twisted, to everyone else you’re just talking because you have nothing to say. You’re not as clever as you think you are.

[@SuPeRNinJaRed]

Always a fan of your viewpoint you are the voice of us lowly workers, I have to say I’ve been in and out of jobs and quiet quit (and loud quit) and all of them I started out giving my full attention and effort, interestingly enough it was always the management’s behavior that influenced me into just do my job and gtfo! My fav time was when my boss sucked and I convinced the entire staff to loud quit, it was the best thing I’ve ever done! I always think a business is no more entitled to succeed than anything else in this world, if a company decides to treat their employees bad they deserve to suffer whatever consequences that entails... Economic Darwinism goes both ways, whoot!

[@csensale]

We had an operations manager get really nasty with our entire store. We didn’t start getting busy until late in the afternoon when everyone started shopping because it was such a nice day. The manager came in at around 730 at night bitching why the chicken case was not full enough I hate how nit picky our walkthroughs get. It’s so counterproductive sometimes to block down the cases every 10 minutes because your average person won’t bend down to look under the case for more

[@nunother]

Thanks for making it out of the grind and being in a position where you can call out the BS.

[@ivayloivanov7231]

I have several times LOUD quit my shit jobs in my Bulgaria. No regrets!

[@muffin7320]

Bulgarians don't quiet quit. Loud quiting is our culture

[@ivayloivanov7231]

@@muffin7320 Thats coz all employers are evil!

[@Frooss2611]

All of these terms seem so foreign to me as a Swedish person. Found your channel today and now watched every dumb job trend video, and it sounds like something out of a horror movie. My mom has been working in HR and recruitment my entire life and almost every "trend" that being stigmatized are things she always told me was good. Always be aware of what other jobs the market can offer you, don't value work more than your health, don't work for free and so much more.

[@scrambledmandible]

Warn all those you know and love, America is where the hopes and dreams of the good man go to die.

[@michaelperez3887]

I dare someone to go tell a car mechanic to do extra work without pay.

[@debeb5148]

They went to trade school, they'll follow cheese like a rat

[@stalbaum]

Honestly I think "quiet quitting" and "loud quitting" are the new avocado toast. It is part of a long generational theft after which boomers and Xers blame mils and zooms.

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

I'm not going to throw Gen X in there. They were the first open slackers of our contemporary times. And I love them for it. Boomers were spoiled by the wealth that came from World War ii.. and from the USA taking in a bunch of Nazi scientists afterward.

[@13giggles22]

Dont put gen x in with the boomers. Gen x got and still get royally screwed. Boomers and gen jones are the problem.

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

also, we don't call gen z "zoom-" anything because we don't name generations after apps. i wonder how much zoom's company paid the big think tanks and friends to push that crap everywhere at once. lol.

[@stalbaum]

@@13giggles22 We have to own our parents - instead of fighting the machine we were cynical, wrote songs and did other surrogate activities to make ourselves feel better, and that is not even the worst of us. The worst are the Xers who took on the professional life of waiting for their parents to die... Nobody remembers a generation for what their parents left them. Especially when it is so little, mostly storage units full of Walmart garbage... We have to own being OK with that.

[@13giggles22]

Once again gen x are not to blame. We were the canaries. We complained about high interest rates, low pay, busted unions, health insurance, college tuition, high rent, etc but we were outnumbered. Gen jones and boomers living way too long. It was okay for them to benefit from social programs and govt consumer protections but they blew that shit up for every gen after the mid 80s. Gen x was the first to feel the negative impact. Gen z has got to come through and get off tiktok or its gonna get worse.

[@RiannaNicole]

This was me and many of my peers while leaving our retail work a few years ago. I’m probs on the don’t rehire list even though my resignation letter was mild.

[@myrnasmith7664]

You KNOW there is a problem when I made more money at 15 waitressing than I do now--that was 40 years ago. In the meantime everything has gone up EXCEPT my wages. And I see constant complaints against strikes and how it costs companies SO much money. Maybe make it to where people actually enjoy their job and can live off their wages so they don't strike and/or leave? I am tired of seeing executives who drive up in a brand-new Maserati and yet demand a worker can't go to the bathroom because that's cheating company time? Got so bad one girl literally pissed in her chair and the rest of us threatened to do that as well. Did it make a difference? Nope, still timed us and badmouthed us when we went. Yes, that did occur and no, I DO NOT work for that company anymore. This is the kind of crap happening nowadays so no wonder people are GTFOing, sometimes in the worst possible way. Thanks for talking about this Josh!

[@mr.mayhem1975]

Worked several jobs where the "management" were more interested in creating a cult of personality than doing the work you were hired to do. Because managers keep falling for these stupid fads invented by marketers and bored HR directors, companies keep getting more and more cult-like in their direction to their workers. Is it too much to ask just to let people do their jobs and go home after work? I was once told that if there is a problem somewhere, you don't look at that level for the reason. You look one level up. Personally, I think you have to follow the chain all the way to where the rot begins- the real leadership (or TOTAL lack thereof)- and correct it there. Too bad most of those tinpot dictators are insulated from their own bullshit to change.

[@Here4TheHeckOfIt]

"stupid fads invented by marketers and bored HR directors" = cult environment 👍

[@getinthespace7715]

Lol. I was working 90 hour weeks because my boss didn't follow through with what he said he was going to do. I sent an email up the chain demanding a massive raise, suggesting short term and long term solutions to the problem. At first they praised me for the great job I was doing. It took them months to get me the raise then scolded me for sending an email. I was like why? Because I accurately and permanently documented your failure and leveraged it to get more justly compensated? Didn't get any response. 🤣😂 ended up getting promoted a year later and moved to a different group.

[@larry8134]

i work in germany as a cloud architect and have to say that my company and especially my boss actively encourages me to question everything, otherwise you are stuck with bad solutions and end up hurting the company more than helping it.

[@LustyLichKing]

I heard in Germany that working overtime means that you suck or you messed something up. In America, not working overtime apparently means you're lazy. Can you confirm this?

[@larry8134]

It's more or less like you mean. From a certain salary level, it is expected that you work an extra hour if something is not quite finished, but no one looks askance if you close the computer at 2pm on a Friday. There is a saying. "Freitags ab eins macht jeder seins" On Fridays at one o'clock everyone does their thing. Or things linke no-touch friday (because no one wants to work friday afternoon because someone messed something up.) In fact, if an employee works more than 12 hours even once, the employer is in real trouble because there is no insurance cover for the employee's mistakes.

[@LustyLichKing]

@@larry8134 Man, I'm moving.

[@hannahwhite7227]

Thank you Joshua (as always) for speaking out about these important issues! I’ve been watching your videos for a while now, and it’s nice to see someone speaking up about the current working conditions and how corrupt they are for the average person. You give me hope that soon things will get better, and with enough awareness that we can make a difference for everyone (for the better).

[@razzikatta]

Have been doing that years now, esp. when working in the US... that really brought it out. Work in US 'healthcare' and see all the ethical issues and exploitation of patients and staff alike, being quiet felt like being an accomplice to a serious crime.

[@piercemchugh4509]

Yes, we are sick of the way companies blatantly DO NOT CARE about their employees and take advantage of them as much as possible. My boss either wanted to ignore problems like long lines, not enough workers on shift to keep up, no air conditioner, hardly any security, not backing up employees from scammers and thieves, asking employees to stay longer every day, forgetting lunch breaks, over-pushing incentive promotions like credit cards to customers, calling us everytime we are on a day off to come in to work, or he wants to make excuses and pretend its the employees fault for not working hard enough. It's nothing less than a scam. If you don't let them wipe the floor with you, they will admit you don't have to do these things but will label you a "quiet quitter" and act like you don't care about your job and so no promotions for you.

[@LordRaine]

As someone who's seen Falling Down, I'm very certain that this isn't what Loud Quitting looks like.

[@rabid_si]

Pretty poor comparison. D-FENS was let go, he didn't quit. And his job was literally his entire personality, he felt lost and castrated without it. He's the poster child for the live to work crowd.

[@Green_Roc]

I like your new office scene, pleasant colors. The plants are a nice touch, gives a little nature in the room.

[@herbert-kenumera960]

Josh is like 1 beacon of hope in a Cyberpunk dystopia.

[@marvJarv]

I really like the energy in this video. Also nice to see you go hard on the corporate world as per usual!!!

[@bbellefson]

In a future "Office Space" movie, Mike Judge should cast Josh as the "loudest quitter" at Initech. Old Lump-berg now owns Initech and Josh's character is his son, so no one can fire him (y'know, like in real life). An office movie collaboration between Judge and Fluke would be freakin hilarious!

[@matthewridgeway9250]

Thank you for exposing the corporate soap box "Gallop" etc. I think we can now call all this rubbish of shaming employees as CorpSplaining BS.

[@CaraMarie13]

I read this the other day and couldn't wait for Josh to get to it. I was thinking, am "loud quiting" my bs job after management keeps causing people to quit leading to me having to take on more work while managers say "I understand the situation is difficult" while typing up more sh** for me to do on top of everything else.

[@mariahconklin4150]

My co worker left his job yesterday he was a lead dishwasher. I felt so bad for him but his dream job is to be a sou chef. When he told me that he got an offer to be a sou chef I was so proud of him. The company I work for they kept saying their were no spots for him to be a sou chef which was probably true but he deserves so much better and I’m really proud of him he was such a great co worker and helped me a lot. Today I’m morning the loss of such a great guy and won’t be going above and beyond anymore. 👏👍

[@Brian_C_]

Honestly, look at almost any fast food restaurant. Some places are always a bit dingy, but I've noticed that most places have cleanliness problems. Not even management there has the will/ability to keep tabs on that. That's pointing to the trend directly... What employees are saying is: I have a job to survive, but it's not good enough to make me care. Sure, you can replace people; but at some point, it should become clear - the problem isn't all on the employees. Why would it be significantly different with professional careers? The skill sets, education levels, and compensation packages are different; but people in nearly every segment are tired of the rising expectations with the diminishing of returns.

[@MoonOvIce]

Exactly. But question, do you think there's enough compensation in the world for someone to care that much about someone else'd business? I mean, I get it that to a point, yes. But the "care" is never going to be as much as the owner's, right?

[@Brian_C_]

@@MoonOvIce I guess that depends on a few things. While the 'care' aspect is subjective, I do think there is a point where the compensation and the way an employer treats employees can change perspectives. I think some companies take it a bit too far with an 'adult daycare' vibe instead of addressing compensation and leadership development (instead of the 'boss' mentality). Maybe a small business owner will have a genuine vested interest; but it doesn't mean people will want to work for them. Corporations, on the other hand, are only as good as the compensation packages and the way management treats employees. So, if management looks down on their employees as the 'peasants', then they shouldn't be surprised if they see a lot of malicious compliance. Unjust favoritism is also a sure way to burn bridges. Even if it's only a perception, promoting the 'boss's' golfing buddy is particularly insidious.

[@TheChadWork2001]

Joshua Fluke our representative for truth about the evil corporate world and exposing their lies.

[@asadb1990]

These corporate buzzword trend is the equivalent of the service industry where the supervisors and managers say "if you have time to lean you have time to clean."

[@DPedroBoh]

If a company can't take criticism its their problem, their incompetence.

[@booman3138]

Happy fourth of July! 🎉

[@slydexxter8737]

Imagine if the businesses actually remembered they need employees more then employees need them

[@SirSoaks]

You should do a video on straight time pay and the types of industries that use it. It's only used for people that have to work long hours so the company can minimize their overtime expenses

[@BluesStraightFromTheHarp]

My partner works for a garden & plant wholesaler. She and her colleagues are regularly asked to work “over time” without “over time” pay. They are told they need to work on holidays like Memorial Day again…with no holiday compensation. 1/2 of this companies work force is made up of people here on temporary work visas. The full time workers who live here are treated the same. Insurance is promised but…there’s so many caveats that nobody can actually afford insurance. The owner uses the “agricultural” loophole get away with not paying their employees decent wages, over time or holiday pay, calling himself a “farmer”. SMH…droves quit but the company just loads the extra work onto those workers who stay or those here on temporary work visas. His (owners) profits are obscene but still unwilling to pay decent wages and benefits to hardworking, local, employees.

[@cowbless]

Holy crap, and I thought this article was about handing in your resignation quietly vs conjuring up a storm of shouting and swear words. 😂 If the manager/director doesn't know how many work hours they need for their business, that's on them. My mother was a director of a planning department in a huge factory, they knew every metric and could manage a staff of 200+ people, no overtime expected, even from themselves 😅 there's an occasional peak and trough, but holy moly

[@starbrand3726]

The company I currently work for is constantly asking employees to sales pitch extra products to customers. An aspect of the job that is very new and not part of the original job description. I was NOT hired as a salesman. And, to add insult to injury, the bosses ALL receive fat bonuses based on these extra sales, while the employees receive...nothing. No, bonuses, no raises, zero incentives to push these extra products onto customers.