Terry Date on Recording Pantera's 'Vulgar Display of Power' - Loudwire Legacy

[@longdark4ever]

Terry Date is responsible for some of the best sound engineered metal music in history.

[@CelestialWoodway]

He also produced Limp Bizkit albums.

[@Artificial_Dopamine]

@@beefquirky7986 white Zombie, Soulfly ,Slayer etc..

[@Tomdawg89]

Badmotorfinger by Soundgarden. Incredible.

[@TrebleForTheBass]

@@CelestialWoodway which is a regret he has, I'm sure

[@neurobits]

@@CelestialWoodway shit happens

[@Artificial_Dopamine]

The tightest metal band to ever play period.

[@TheRedverb]

Yes indeed.

[@Minnevan]

Imo Tool deserves a spot at that table, along with Pantera

[@TheRedverb]

@@Minnevan lol, yeah, Tool probably deserve to be sitting at the head of that table.

[@Artificial_Dopamine]

@@TheRedverb well I personally meant the "heavier" kind of metal but tool is def at the table idk bout the head but yes.

[@chris4087]

Hmm not sure about tool. Pantera the intensity and excitement just blows everyone away. I love the last 3 or 4 minutes of tool songs where it finally breaks out the first 10 minutes are build up. Pantera smash the gates down from start to finish. Love tool but different style. Anyway music ain't a competition. We all win in the end.

[@tmex9588]

It’s a trip how Pantera portrayed themselves as these drunken out of control maniacs but based on all the interviews I’ve seen/read about them in the studio, they didn’t fuck around and took it very seriously. And you can hear it in all their records, the passion, dedication and hard work is very clear and very loud 🤘🏼

[@tmex9588]

General Neyland yea that’s what would eventually destroy the band, unfortunately.

[@domtron8873]

@@vols-deep makes you wonder if he hadn't gotten into heroin for his back issues, would Pantera have released more great albums or would they slip into a more formulaic version of their former success? Phil has been putting out solid work ever since the mid 90s either with this super groups or solo projects. Makes me wonder what could have been...

[@jandafin]

Phil admitted Trendkill was a downhill slope because of his drug use.

[@jaijason8150]

@@stevenghee654 nailed it.

[@davidg1612]

@@stevenghee654 Pantera was long gone when Darrell died. He and Vinnie were in Damageplan at that time.

[@soklamon]

Terry Date is really the fifth member of Pantera. He is like a good maestro of an incredible symphonic orchestra or a talented director of a great film.

[@erakattack]

@Devin Curtis He was able to present the energy of their music so well. You could really hear that RTS was lacking so badly..

[@lukeknutson3191]

@@erakattack reinventing the steel is awesome! it was one of the grower albums. Sound wise it sounds great..but terry was the better producer for sure.

[@REXBROWNOFFICIAL]

Devin Curtis But wait..He just Remixed RTS that comes out in the fall!! Just got the mixes today & Terry nailed it!!

[@soklamon]

@@REXBROWNOFFICIAL oh fuckin shit! waiting to listen to that!

[@tonesofdef2144]

6th member of deftones too.....lol

[@alfonsomartinez2751]

Terry Date is an amazing producer/engineer/mixer He should make more records! Repentless sounds freaking awesome

[@hinjurock]

I fully agree. He did great work with Soundgarden on Badmotorfinger as well.

[@DemonSlide]

Louder than Love as well!

[@SlavomirG]

Deftones as well.

[@AndrewScott1337]

soooo true, he needs to record more metal and bring back his raw yet massive sound.

[@Skeletal33]

Repentless sounds like garbage. Worst thing he’s ever done

[@CBALLZ666]

This is really cool that Loudwire put this together, props Loudwire

[@Malpractice2003]

Terry Date is the helping hand, truly, the man behind Pantera's driving force. He's just fucking amazing producer. Btw, he produced "Badmotorfinger", the mind-blowing classic Soundgarden's third album!

[@joddeurter2448]

and his ultimate crown; Sir-Mix-A-Lot's Swass

[@derrickvandevelde2066]

Also produced detones' Around the Fur which is perhaps my most favorite mix of any album. Sounds incredible.

[@slipknotpurity00]

And the Deftones picked him specially for how much they loved his Pantera production

[@RK_peace]

I didn’t know that about Badmotorfinger, makes sense now, arguably soundgarden’s best album

[@User-jk8wq]

@@derrickvandevelde2066 He produced every Deftones record from Adrenaline through to self titled, then came back for Ohms. Everything this man touches turns into gold haha

[@rjc7289]

Every album Terry's worked on is sonic gold! He makes every instrument sound massive!

[@trumpsamerica2862]

The intro music used here is shared by Ola Englund in his "Riff of the Day" clips.

[@JK-fr7dz]

This album popped my metal cherry and I never looked back 18 years later.

[@Dedwood_1]

The Mic in the trash can story is PRICELESS ! ! ! Every time I hear that feedback from this point on I will see Phil slamming a microphone into a trash can lol Thanks Terry ! ;)

[@dmusiclife5727]

Terry Date Legend

[@peteytwofinger]

intro volume vs voice volume is perfect great job with that .

[@erakattack]

LMAO

[@erakattack]

I literally don't think I've ever clicked on a video so fast. This man helped define Pantera's inimitable sound, imo..

[@Phobero]

Love his work with Prong - possibly the most underrated metal band of all time

[@midibenni]

Agree, Rude Awakening and Cleansing sounds so good.

[@cabalofdemons]

Agreed.

[@Dankphu]

I'd honestly never heard of them but your comment made me check them out. Thanks man.

[@cabalofdemons]

Prong is arguably the most underrated American metal band of the Nineties. You should check out the band's earlier albums Beg to Differ (1990) and Prove You Wrong (1991). Prong's newer releases are great as well.

[@bobbyberetta4206]

cabalofdemons those are my favorite Prong albums, love Mark Dodson’s work on them.

[@anthonyrivers1619]

Saw the tour in 1992, Irvine Meadows, CA. - opened for Skid Row!

[@RaspySquares]

cant get enough of people talking about pantera...my heros

[@DougA333]

Listened to this on the way to work today, perfect motivation

[@goober6687]

TERRY DATE ! Hello and I am so surprised and happy to stumble on this video of you! KUOI (Idaho) and 45 years later, you've done quite well !!!

[@schnarfel]

What a guy. That story about dime with the fader, Terry told me and my band that story years ago and it was unbelievable.

[@turtleneckferret]

Yeah, he told me and my band also cause we know him personally

[@voronOsphere]

Terry Date: So often the Right Man at the Right Place at the Right Time!

[@chris4087]

I don't think it was luck man. He knew what he was doing.

[@Kelesis666]

Legendary Producer!

[@GuitarWithDofka]

Terry Date's production is truly legendary. This was great insight.

[@pantera6343]

I got into Pantera late , “mouth for war” got me into them , first time I heard it , blew me away 🤩 , song is a bit dated now , but for the early 90s it was all new

[@anthonyrivers1619]

My fave of theirs!

[@Artificial_Dopamine]

I actually think that song and all of em for that matter have aged VERY well 🔥🤘🏼🤘🏼🔥

[@BingBongWasheeWashee]

dated in terms of time passed but yea that song is fucking AMAZING still

[@tes420]

Jackandmel - Dated? No....Timeless?? Fuck Yeah!! 🤘😵🤘

[@LEDZEP769]

Not dated at all, if anything timeless. They are my generation that produced real musicians in a period when there was amazing music happening unlike the computer generated 💩 you hear on too 40 "Rock Stations" today.

[@stevenbrewer5161]

he had to be one hell of a producer to make them heavier each time!! he will be legendary as a producer through time..we make are mark on this world and they made a deep one!!

[@jacobdowler1]

These guy's! (Pantera and the crew they had) are Legend's!!! My favorite band!

[@socksincrocks4421]

Terry, THANK YOU!!! You changed everything.

[@kaidengathings3096]

Just found that this guy had produced some of the best albums in the world!!! Amazing.

[@CelestialWoodway]

He also produced Limp Bizkit albums.

[@mikem4162]

Their tone was fantastic. Absolutely great. Tone makes a huge difference. So many records out there that have great songs but it doesn't sound well. Pantera was heavy as hell. A very full bodied sound. And everything sounds tight and fluid. You can really hear it in their crashes, and solos.

[@shaft9000]

A controversial (yet also obvious) idea: Tone is a knob - the low-pass filter knob, in fact - like it says right there on the guitar itself (!) Tone is ~not~ a sonic identity or timbre - those things ARE those things already. Tone is a 4 letter word, and (uh oh, here comes an opinion) the dumbest marketing affectation perpetuated by a culture in all of guitar-dom. Such that even the great Terry Date (and many many more greats) is guilty of these "errors" - because hey, _why fight a battle if you don't need to?_

[@hinjurock]

Terry Date is my favorite hard rock and metal producer/engineer.

[@theforsaken4489]

HinjuRock me too but how about hip hop or rap?

[@MrMmnngghh]

@@theforsaken4489 DJ Premier

[@erakattack]

the dude just knew how to transfer a vibe and energy to tape. amazing, tbh

[@TheBozoleum]

Date, Albini, and Rubin... hands down my top 3 for modern rock

[@TheBozoleum]

@@theforsaken4489DJ Premier, Dr.Dre, and so many more...

[@Ytsebri]

About 10 years ago, I had access to the original master reels for this album. It took all my willpower to not take them.

[@erakattack]

omg dude. I would pore over those recordings in a marathon

[@TheSason666]

Was that 2-inch 24 track reel tape by AMPEX brand ???!!!

[@turtleneckferret]

You're full of $hit

[@TheDmanMA]

that was great....i eat this shit up... glad to hear that working w Phil was fun... Terry Date - Legend. Thank you Man! And PANTERA!!!

[@michael7v6]

I could listen to this all day.

[@abelgnecco7923]

the story of the mic’s feedback in the thrash bin is great, we all I guess thought it was Dime’s guitar!

[@Thanksforaskingme]

I want an interview with him about all the deftones records he did

[@Thanksforaskingme]

@Better Than The Beatles Terry! If it's really you man I have a ton of questions. Real quick, first thing that comes to mind is what in the world did y'all use to give Chino that underwater screaming sound on around the fur??? You can really hear it on the chorus of MX.

[@shplog2]

Thank you for your work Terry! World changed man. Well done!!

[@zerofuckkksgiven8027]

Best heavy metal band of all time! Period!

[@jesussotelo4775]

Terry "he knew what he wanted"Date

[@LEDZEP769]

Vulgar was and is a tight balls to the wall masterpiece. No surprise they were perfectionist as you hear it on every song. Dime had the ear, the feel and the god given talent unmatched by anyone before or after him. Mr. Date was the architect of the wall of sound that Pantera was at the top of.✝️ RIP DIME🎸 AND 🥁 VINCE

[@duanevh3790]

I always wonder what the last few metallica albums would have sounded like if produced by him, of if metallica even tried to get him as a producer.

[@ryangarnett4705]

That would've been sick AF.

[@tucko11]

Pantera, arguably,one of the best rock 'n' roll bands, heavy metal bands, ever to be on the circuit

[@johanrevelid2067]

I wanna hear his take on Overkills Years of decay and Horrorscope :)

[@deadman1168]

yezz,he iz the fukin'mazter \,,/

[@gringochucha]

This guy is the man. Was just listening to 'Around the Fur' and the mix is fucking delicious.

[@chriscalvert4625]

Why does this guy look so much like Stephen King

[@themuchdingdong]

Theyre both great

[@damionchrist]

More like Rick Moranis

[@metalstrand2795]

Its actually the same person.

[@DeeBee0015]

A cross between Stephen King and Bob Lazar!

[@jrosner6123]

He actually is.... but dont tell anyone.

[@OmniscientVirtuosity]

This dude is a genius. Pantera sounds perfection from vulgar to trendkill. The hugeness of the sound is crazy. Especially for solid state amplifiers and essentially a three piece rock band.

[@shhjeffreys729]

How tf are they a 3 piece

[@GDJ113]

Drums bass and guitar? Vocals dont really count towards musical arrangement.

[@shhjeffreys729]

@@GDJ113 Any good frontman should be heavily involved in arrangement and musical direction even if not technically proficient at any instrument. That's the way I've managed to have some joy in music through having a good ear and songwriting/arrangement/lyricism but total pants at any instrument. I just think a 3 piece is a 3 piece dude but I understand your sentiment

[@GDJ113]

Pretty sure "piece" refers to instruments.

[@OmniscientVirtuosity]

Duke of Haphazard he plays bass, clown.

[@AttilatheThrilla]

Terry Date is a metal LEGEND!!!

[@damageincorporated8558]

Can't remember ever hearing rex,but i love him🤣

[@Derpadeedooda]

Terry Date is such a fucking legend

[@nanobluelectrobuzz9227]

Terry Date made: - The revolutionary metal/techno album Astrocreep 2000 by White Zombie - Limp Biskit albums - most of the Pantera album. Terry Date = legendary.

[@TheBozoleum]

Astrocreep was such a good album!!!

[@nanobluelectrobuzz9227]

Jay Boz, I remember that Astrocreep 2000 started doing music making my album Nanoblu Electro Buzz. Metal with electronica.

[@sangramos]

Please fix the audio for these videos; it's way too fucking loud with the intro music and the interviews sound like they're hiding from nazis.

[@kevinblanco2451]

omgdarkfire fine for me maybe fix your settings bro

[@karakenio]

+1 !!!!!!!!

[@hinjurock]

Yeah, it's a terrible mix - they should have had Terry work on it ;)

[@soklamon]

like for the joke (only)!

[@SLP-eb1wp]

Loudwire has the best content! Pantera, Steel Panther - these guys have good taste!

[@pexi72]

”Dime would have riffs, Vinnie would have a drum pattern , Rex would have something..”

[@ziadhine5739]

pexi72 hahaha

[@damiencogman]

Rex was the song organiser

[@TrondBieshow]

And Phil had... nothing?

[@Minnevan]

Rex would be the glue that brings it all together, not to mention all the cool rhythm guitar parts he did (not sure if he wrote them)

[@dcs2690]

"This is Rex, the jackass!"

[@midibenni]

OverKill`s Horrorscope sounds very well, luv his productions. I think his Achievement in Metal Music Productions is pointed out Double-Bass in Speed and Thrash Metal. Man i miss it so much in Metal Music this age. I mean to hear every single Double-Bass Hit on the Drums. Today fast parts sounded like a wall of noise

[@dragons_red]

midibenni Now THAT album had a temendous sound and mix AND some killer tunes!

[@midibenni]

I like the tunes on "the years of decay" more but Terry Dates Sound on Horrorscope is killer, is better. Also his PRONG Production, Cleansing and Rude Awakening are some of my favorite Albums in the nineties.

[@luckylicks3497]

They wrote VDoP in 6 weeks!!

[@edybocman76]

LuckyLicks well most of the band

[@orokusaki7835]

2 weeks

[@luckylicks3497]

@@orokusaki7835 Wrote and recorded.. Dime said it himself in a video interview. But you can ask Grady and Bobby for details

[@Sekhmet6697]

No word about Vinnie? Surprised he didn’t even mention him as he was an awesome sound engineer/producer.

[@Mackenzieadventures1]

Getcha pull! RIP Abbott brothers.

[@crazyjoedavola5430]

This guy never gets enough credit

[@genustinca5565]

Nice to hear someone give props to Rex Brown. Great bass player.

[@herojitwayenbam2928]

Thanks Terry for pantera

[@socksincrocks4421]

Any behind the scenes in the studio for Vulgar? I would love to see the equipment setup; the console; the band performing...

[@muxz]

Date's work is amazing. Besides "Vulgar Display of Power", "Strength in Numbers" from 24-7 Spyz is my favorite. He truly captured everything great about that band.

[@socksincrocks4421]

Anyone have a full list of recording equipment used to VDOP? What outboard was used? Especially for Vinnie... What was used on Drums? Thanks

[@ryanboyce3365]

Terry Date and Vinnie changed the game on recording metal drums in my opinion.

[@shake6429]

This guy is fuckin legend! Amazing engineer

[@voodoochile3201]

He also did a great job on Fishbone's album too !

[@dwaynestjohn5324]

This man produced for metal church overkill soundgarden pantera white zombie unearth and slayer legendary

[@KyleGushue]

greatness!

[@analozada9475]

Agree...CFH was a great preamble/transition album, but the pure essence of Pantera showed perfectly with VDOP. Then, FBD was the super hardcore, refined, well crafted masterpiece that knocked my chonies off, and kicked my ass from head to toe, and the rest is history! 🙌🖤🔥🤘🔥💪🔥👊 Every time I listened to Far Beyond Driven my testosterone levels increased! Lol 💪🔥🤘🔥👊

[@MichaelJeffrey]

Guys, go back and listen to the 4 glam rock albums before Cowboys from Hell. 1. Metal Magic (1983) 2. Projects in the Jungle (1984) 3. I Am the Night (1985) 4. Power Metal (1988) Power Metal is when Phil Anselmo joined. It's still quite glam rock... and even Cowboys is a little... If you think about the heavier albums (FBD, GST etc) someone had to get them across that bridge from Glam Rock to Intensely Hard Metal. and you see it... you can hear it. From Cowboys to Vulgar to FBD to GST to Reinventing The Steel - who got them there? I believe it's: TERRY DATE (although he wasn't on Reinventing The Steel) of course they knew what they were doing, but there's no way they'd of gotten to where they ended up without someone of Terry Date's calibre; guiding the nuances of their desired sound to the reality of what was recorded. Terry Date! Legend 👏👏👏

[@CrawFail]

Riff of the dayyyy

[@cak1213]

This man along wuth Rick Rubin is a legend

[@reaperofwaywardsouls]

Riff of the day!

[@Locoandchooch]

Terry cracking the whip

[@robertalvarez7412]

Deftones!!!!

[@paveltiburcio7941]

*intro music* me: "no riff of the daaaay?"

[@jacklewis3444]

Lol I love pantera but I can smell them by just looking at them 😂

[@BrunoMacedoPhotos]

In the thumbnail, Terry looks like a long haired version of Stephen King xD

[@Desecrator6]

RIFF OF THE DAAAAY

[@jorgepaul5049]

Tom Wernan Mike Clink Terry Date Max Norman Alex Perialas Bob Rock Michael Wagener 80’s producers 👍👍

[@anthonyrivers1619]

Wagner baby!

[@iseeu-fp9po]

What, no mention of Vinnie?

[@465marko]

"Tortured by the fact that we were always going for something and we could never quite find it" - Is this the guitar player's curse? Does anyone else feel like that (I know I do). Never quite being able to get the sound that's in your head.

[@Skoora]

More bands need to realize, that record, once done, is set for the rest of your life (unless you’re Dave Mustaine…please stop Dave). You can get frustrated, tired and just want it to be over but real dedication and effort will pay off and you may just end up with something you can stand to listen to and be proud of 10, 20 or 30 years later. Or at least you know you tried your hardest.

[@Skoora]

Would dig an interview with him about Prong’s Cleansing and the decisions that lead to such a dry and somewhat subdued drum sound. Love that album but the drums are definitely the weak point, sonically (great playing by Parsons though). Actually same thing for Badmotorfinger too. .

[@PaulThompson_Music]

Hell Yeah!!! Terry Date brought a whole new life to the 2020 version of Reinventing The Steel. I’d love to hear Terry Date re-mix and master Black Sabbath’s Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.

[@mmc5040]

I knew 30 seconds into Cowboys from Hell that Terry Date produced it.

[@erakattack]

wow! what were you familiar with him with before?

[@mmc5040]

Eric Yes on Overkill’s Years of Decay. My cousin and I both thought it. We immediately check on the cassette knowing it had to be him.

[@mikemc5221]

@@erakattack Listen to the song Who Tends the Fire by Overkill, it's just thick powerful production.

[@erakattack]

@@mikemc5221 I'll have to listen to that. I've loved the energy of everything he's worked on

[@cltracy2921]

@@erakattack if you haven't heard it yet check out the first Metal Church album, which Terry Date produced.

[@deadman1168]

Def.1,if not they 1 of per.favz.

[@elpistolas4485]

0:00 WILL IT CHUG?!?!

[@patrickpezoa8668]

Name of the outro song?

[@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power]

but did he do any production on rex's album?

[@SuperDurv]

i can't believe VULGAR DISPLAY OF POWER was recorded on tape/analog...

[@SheaRecordmetal]

I’m just upset this is only 5 minutes.

[@datboibaz]

One of my ex teachers worked this album

[@ghostdog2041]

Annnnnnd how was Vinnie Paul? No comment

[@requiemforredemption5365]

🔥🤘🏼💿🎧💿🤘🏼🔥

[@aavmarine1833]

The Rope King.

[@erakattack]

like.. Peter North ropes?

[@ihavenolegs1731]

Lets talk about GSTK

[@multiestonian]

''Pantera is the tighest band i've ever played with'' -Phil Anselmo

[@anonymousghostcrab4606]

Who is Tone?

[@riffsnreviews]

You know when people talk about doing days until sunrise or sundown, there's snort involved

[@riffsnreviews]

Oh and I can bet you anything, Terry has only a little recollection what happened then, and you know what being fucked up and being able to release a legendary album is actually a feat, especially as I don't imagine Dime being the calm clean type

[@riffsnreviews]

Also that pencil width tone, it's BS let's not kid ourselves, the guy was a virtuoso on guitar but tone wise... He's not hearing that shift, it's easy to speak good about the dead and even promote oneself..

[@97warlock]

my take on Vulgar? Its a Brutal Great album, But I sorta se a slight reselblance, mix-wise with And Justice for all ..... They took jasons bass almost all the way out .............. and Vulgar,reminds me of this. This album is Bass-light in the recording. Plug in Cowboys or Far Beyond drivvin, Big difference in the Lows. - .... I use my EQ to ad lows but no matter how I EQ it, it seems the only real lows are Vinnies kickdrum. ... Bringing Rex Up on the mix would Improve Vulgar tremendously imo

[@TheKetzer666]

I actually always felt it was somehow sterile and not as vivid as a band usually is on stage and never was really into the studio versions, you are right about the bass for sure. but i do have this issue with many recordings and not only in metal music.