Love Is Blind S3 #29 - (Colleen Body Language) - Therapist Reacts

[@Nita_Key]

One thing I can't stand about this show's reunions is how they treat the people who chose not to get married vs the people who got married. They really don't challenge or hold the married couples accountable for their behavior. Matt was aggressive and abusive and no one on that stage called him out on that. Not the hosts, other participants, or Colleen.

[@EnjoyLife-op5rn]

I agree. Also, Alexa was male bashing with the other women at their last meeting before their marriages, saying that "all men are stupid." She also said that Cole was a child and not as emotionally mature as Zanab to Zanab. But it was Zanab who trashed Cole at the altar and didn't even contact him to process the rejection (unlike how Bartise handled his rejection with Nancy). Alexa also joined with Zanab about Cole getting a women's phone number at the Bachelor Party even though there were no men that substantiated that the men had spent time with any women. Cole was right about Alex's false accusation while she and Alexa were hanging out with male strippers.

[@mimiad397]

The show will never challenge the married couples lol they are just happy somebody got married and proved "love is blind" eventhough it isn't. There is always this idea that the married couples won somehow lol meanwhile those who didn't get married get the grilling and questioned about everything. I do not understand why they showed Matts outburst when they 1. Refused to show the aftermath in the episode after and 2. Didn't even end up questioning him about it during the reunion. Things like this just make the show and experiment itself seem so fake

[@mimiad397]

@@EnjoyLife-op5rn lol I found it funny how alexa was offended by Coles comments to others about his relationship with Zanab, yet she felt it was okay for her to go around telling people that her man didn't know to please her and had to be taught by her. There are certain things other people do not need to know, especially when they did not ask in the first place

[@rainydayjane8257]

Awe, Little Kirk is smiling on the inside!! That is the cutest thing!! 🥰🥰

[@EnjoyLife-op5rn]

@@mimiad397 Agree

[@alessandra00]

For me it’s a combination of how he exploded during the arguments, brushes it off as “we” overreacted, and now the hovering and talking over her to control their image. It just doesn’t seem comfortable idk

[@whiskybrush3219]

Yeah... that "we" that stands for him and the mouse in his pocket.

[@smartmarketing173]

Someone noticed that he follows a bunch of aggressive males (the whole alpha thing), and leans very right wing conservative, which imho explains a lot. Those guys all seem to have a crap ton of anger issues. I’m predicting that will be obvious in the way one responds to this post.

[@kimeowsky]

@@smartmarketing173 Ask him where he was january 6th 😂😂

[@alessandra00]

@@smartmarketing173 gotta love those “alpha” males who are aggressive and abusive and then say they’re the victim because women are “playing” them

[@juliya_hanson]

My dad used to go on rampages for hours screaming, cussing, and throwing furniture across the room and then later describe it as "being a little frustrated." Sooo many red flags with Matt, and the fact that he downplays his outbursts is concerning. I feel like he does not have an accurate perspective on just how abusive and scary his behavior is.

[@sarahohara4022]

I’m sorry you had to deal with that behavior from your dad! I can relate to your experience and it’s nice to know that it wasn’t jusT my family ❤

[@iyanla09]

Colleen was so bubbly in the beginning of the filming. Her smile had diminished.

[@missNicoledegranda]

Having been with an emotionally volatile man similar to Matt, Colleen's timid body language is the fact that she has to walk on eggshells and if she says one wrong thing in that reunion she had to face his uncontrollable wrath at home. I could be projecting my own experience but I see a lot of myself in Colleen and am legitimately worried for her wellbeing.

[@hashtagmate]

And the fact that she isn't naturally timid!! She used to be bubbly outgoing smiling all the time!!

[@Xxbubbly10]

Ya he reminds me exactly of my abusive ex it started with fights all the time like the one they showed and quickly got worse and worse with some good periods but got even worse again

[@Sough]

"Well it was intense and we have those up and downs but it's just because we took the process seriously" Nah, YOU had blowups because You have anger, jealousy, control issues ans have a lot of work to do. Criminal how Vanessa lays into coal but says nothing about Matt

[@a.5326]

I am so glad Dr. Kirk is addressing all the red flags us viewers were seeing. I wish Matt took more accountability.

[@hashtagmate]

We can keep wishing till the day we die he is never going to

[@a.5326]

@@hashtagmate Agreed. He's most likely a type of person who will see therapy as terrifying because he'll have to face his insecure, darker side and would have to admit that his pain is causing others to suffer along with him.

[@ilovetosweetthings]

It’s not only her body language, but Matt is on top of her the whole time. He’s trying to block her from all the guys on his side of the room.

[@nadylinunez9544]

I refresh my KZbin feed just to see if he has uploaded more of this reunion. Thank you!

[@stellannie86]

He always uploads at the same time. :)

[@nadylinunez9544]

@@stellannie86 oh snap! Thanks for saying that!

[@AfterCoffeeWithJess]

@@stellannie86 WHAT, REALLY?! I can't believe I didn't catch onto that lollll

[@stellannie86]

@@AfterCoffeeWithJess haha, yes! :)

[@abbys.9233]

I think he uploads at 1 pm and 4 pm EST daily.

[@dawntaylor8749]

They could use a therapist like you, Dr. Honda, on this show! It would be nice to see some progression and growth over drama all the time.

[@xojacquie7356]

That would be awesome!

[@mimiad397]

Yeah like weekly therapy sessions for the couples

[@jeremysmith9694]

Not gonna happen. They want the drama. Drama sells. That's why everyone watches. They create the drama for a reason. Why would they tamp that down?

[@dawntaylor8749]

@@jeremysmith9694 Therapy on camera can be just as dramatic. I have several friends who are reality producers. One of them did add a therapist to her show 3rd season and ratings went through the roof afterwards. But, we'll see what happens:)

[@WAMama84]

@@dawntaylor8749yes! I find therapy fascinating, I mean look at all the people watching the reactions of the therapists watching them. Americans love to psychoanalyze, they feel validated when the therapist agrees with their thoughts and get passionate when they don’t.

[@shrodzmartz]

Yeeeeeaaaah maybe I'm just extremely sensitive to things having been in an abusive relationship, but I actually felt scared for Colleen several times throughout the season

[@unicornL]

Same.

[@xojacquie7356]

Me too!

[@lv2756]

She has her hand in his lap half the time as if she’s trying to control/tame him, even when he ‘appears’ calm. Very scary

[@bubs8beans]

same! also, matt just brushes off his actions like it’s normal or relatable 😬🤢

[@WhatIsHasValue]

Same

[@mkaverage4773]

Regardless of whether there are red flags, not moving in together right away is a good choice. These people are essentially strangers. It’s a good idea to keep that safety net until you know for sure it’s a good choice. Yes they’re married but at least not living together gives someone a safe space to run to if necessary.

[@bun0428]

Colleen said in an interview with Anthony Gilet that she was acting like that because she had been receiving a lot of hate comments and it was really affecting her at the time, so at the reunion she was very nervous and was just trying to not have a panick attack, and that she was litterly squeezing Matt's hand so hard because how nervous she was.

[@mimiad397]

But wasn't this reunion filmed in February? Way before this season even came out?

[@ohisee9173]

@@mimiad397 no

[@maddiefaye696]

Yeah I saw Alyssa confirm this on a live Instagram interview

[@francescalittle]

I think that was at least part of the reason for her discomfort. I I would also be uncomfortable if I knew that the pool scene was going to be rehashed at the reunion. It is one thing hearing about it. It's another thing watching it.

[@TheORealWitch]

That might be true, yet the signs and a potential of an abuser is still in Matt. It's not a lost cause at all, I hope they'll work out and have a healthy relationship. Just... His whole demeanor... If he knew about her struggles.. dunno I don't like that her vulnerability brings this out of him. His more overbearing that "protective". I wouldn't feel calm in that seat as well. Something is just sooo off about it. And knowing Coleen was in a really anxious and vulnerable place, that makes it worse.

[@LindzFletch17]

That night when he was furious that she went out without him. You could tell that he would be yelling at her and spamming her with text messages. That is just textbook abusive behaviour, when he feels he has a RIGHT to be mad at her. Oof, just something about the way he acted, scared me. And concerned me for Colleen and what she was coming home to

[@at-ul2ub]

I think Bartise was not a great partner for much of the show to Nancy, but I really appreciated how he intervened that night. And it was interesting to see how Matt's behavior changed when it was Bartise there and not Colleen.

[@michaelcarter577]

Colleen looked terrified throughout the reunion.

[@morgancr67]

I thing she was apprehensive because she knew the conversation with Cole was going to come up yet again.

[@unicornL]

Also they addressed their first fight in Malibu as a slight hiccup and said the same thing has happened since leaving the show. If that was his version of slight hiccup w cameras around, do I really think Colleen is ok? I don't at all. He's not good

[@eh1126]

Exactly! He has a habit of describing his aggressive outbursts as “hiccups” so I would totally believe that they’ve had explosive fights like what we saw since they left the show.

[@Watchingvids01]

Wow we aint at cuties scene yet 😭 i been checking the page for this or angela and Michael videos

[@jesssc402]

I’ve been waiting for the cuties 🍊 since last week 🥲

[@Watchingvids01]

@@jesssc402 you and many of us girl

[@CaitlynGoesHiking]

It’s gonna be his grand finale of this series 😅 Waiting so impatiently lol

[@mimiad397]

Video is coming next year 🤣

[@Watchingvids01]

@@mimiad397 definitely

[@autumnlover5784]

I dont know Dr. Kirk everyone and their mommas was waiting for you to make it to THIS Episode for this exact feeling!!

[@lilyxo6914]

Yes bc we all saw it. Kind of disappointed he’s hovering around the topic

[@sarahsmith3682]

@@lilyxo6914 He's not hovering around. He clearly stated his speculation. He's not going to make definitive statements about whether or not someone he's never treated in person is abusive based on their body language, no matter how much people like you want him to.

[@lilyxo6914]

@@sarahsmith3682 o k

[@shundiin8]

The only time Colleen smiled was when she was talking about laundry day 😔

[@saraalbouji]

😔

[@MinnieMousey06]

oof you're right poor bby

[@Watchingvids01]

Not sure what the living situation confusion was. They basically don’t own a place together because breaking leases is expensive but they are living together in one place for most part. Sounds like something people do in college not sure why people are so confused by it

[@Nita_Key]

I think it's confusing because Matt is the VP of an aerospace company or something like that. I'd think he could afford to break a lease or two.

[@Watchingvids01]

@@Nita_Key you can afford something and not want to do it because its unnecessary especially if the current plan works.

[@sam-wt1gq]

I think it's not even that. I felt like the situation was objectively straightforward but the way that Colleen phrased it made it seem very defensive. Like she was justifying it and giving excuses...rather than being like Oh yeah we live together but alternate places/in the process of moving in/waiting for our leases to end to permanently move in. It made me feel a little worried for her and uncomfy. I hope she keeps her lease so she has a safe place to go.

[@alyssiab.]

They've been married since June 2021, still worrying about the rent?

[@Watchingvids01]

@@alyssiab. in this economy yes lol

[@amandajo340]

Thanks for this! I didn't notice anything with Colleen when I first watched the reunion. But then I saw so many posts talk about her body language and I was really hoping you could give your perspective. There's a lot of reasons she could have that body language and a lot of people have decided to come up with a theory, but the problem is they sort of state it as fact instead of just a theory. I'm so glad you bring a more reasonable stance. It's like hope in humanity for me 😄

[@iwantabiscuitplz]

Colleen is soo sweet and seems like a good and caring person...I hope she's alright

[@fp1912]

I never want to live with a partner. I love having a separate place. In my perfect world, we would live next door or down the block from one another. I’ve done that before and it worked so well!

[@karishmadesai1408]

I had a lease where I quit my job before the lease was up and I was still on the hook for 4 months of rent. So I used it to just keep my stuff there and moved back home. When the lease was up, I sorted through everything and just brought back what I needed. I got lucky being able to go back home. I can't imagine having to be on the hook for rent and then pay rent on a new place. So that part makes sense to me

[@GuiltyPleasureTVyoutuber]

They got married July 2021. The reunion was filmed late October 2022. That's a long lease 😂😂

[@karishmadesai1408]

@@GuiltyPleasureTVyoutuber Oh I keep forgetting that detail lol. I keep thinking the reunion was right after the show. 😂 I will say while these people are married, they barely know each other. So I can see why they (or at least Colleen) may have decided to do separate leases for another year. Living with each other is a big commitment. I know they do technically live with each other on the show, but I don't think it's exactly the same experience as living together in the real world. Just my guess 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@Feliciatanktop]

@@GuiltyPleasureTVyoutubernot all leases are 12 months. Usually in Dallas, a lot of apartments offer cheaper rent the longer your lease is. You can sign a 24 month lease and save money if you know you'll stay for that long. I always do 15/16 month leases and it saves around $300 on rent each month

[@GuiltyPleasureTVyoutuber]

@@Feliciatanktop Good lord!!! That is crazy long. They must make a bunch of money off of people breaking leases. In San Diego the most you are going to get is a 12 month lease as a new tenant. After that most leases become month to month. In my last apartment here I was month to month for 13 years.

[@-NiamhWitch-]

I'm really nervous for Colleen.

[@hallop2145]

I'm glad and happy that you address couples not living together! My boyfriend and me have been together for five years and we are in a very healthy and trusting relationship. It helps that we both want the same: to live apart, sleep apart, not marry and not care about societal conventions. I think many people take these steps too early or only because they think they are expected to. I'm glad I live in a time were people more and more allow themselves to be authentic. Edit: I listen to another German psychology podcast and it always irritates me when the therapist pathologises not wanting to move in together as boundary and/or intimacy issues. In general, she is fine, but I always assumed you would think about this differently, being more open to alternatives.

[@the.magic.catbus9459]

I’ve been with my partner for 7 yrs and we don’t live together. We see each other 2 days a week and we never fight 😊. We have discussions from time to time about feelings or if one of us irritates the other but we have never had a blow out argument.

[@tourmii]

I feel like them not moving in together right after isn’t weird. They knew each other for less than 2 months

[@DodoToutDoux]

Same!

[@lilyjanelahue5795]

Dr Honda “but i don’t knoww” Perfect diagnoses ✨

[@jesssc402]

Colleen was like “Yeah we’re good” 😬

[@mgthale]

„Record yourself in conflict with a partner… can be helpful sometimes“ that does ring a bell 😅

[@partialartsblackbelt8384]

I thought she was being very careful with her words and nervous because of rehashing the pool scene, talking about not living together and all the backlash she was getting about how she kept saying she was a ballerina etc. Also, apparently she’s in PR so her words felt very measured. I think it could be these things as much as anything else. I certainly hope that is all it is anyway. That being said, my flags were going up during their fights.

[@Holeydoughnuts]

Thanks for the balanced opinion!

[@Meganb1286]

It's her body language, his behavior and the laundry day for me. Like ohh noo girl. As someone who has been abused in all the ways by my deceased partner of 8yrs, I agree w/everyone's comments. If not physical, he definitely shows major signs of emotional/mental abuse. I have sat that way as well during so many family functions where he did all the talking and I sat there w/no affection while he did and I explained everything away to try to make it seem it was good when it was not. Laundry day, to me, sounds like her day to be w/out him so she can breathe. Mine would accuse me of anything if I was gone doing anything and I get that energy from this. It's uncomfortable that they made her have to sit thru that when he's right next to her making her relive that right next to him. I bet for sure they fought on the way home to wherever they went from that uncomfortable experience they were contractually having to be part of. We also have no clue what has happened in their private time this entire time btwn the show filimg and this airing... being alone is where the real abuse happens. Just from my experience, obviously no proof of it beyond what we see but that reads pretty clear to me.

[@ievabunte5035]

I agree on any word you. From the first fight I could relate. I screamed in my head-women run!. The apollogizing coming from Colleen adter pool sciene- she was in terror. She had to overdo appologizing infron of it because she knows she has days ahead to do it once they are away from everyone.

[@heatherw.4561]

My husband and I haven't been sleeping together much this year because of his snoring but our relationship is as good as ever. In fact I feel even better getting sleep and not having to wake my husband up throughout the night because he's snoring.

[@Aster_Risk]

Heck yeah. This is how my and my husband's relationship is. I was miserable because of his snoring and I never got sleep. I'd kick him in bed or have to wake him up when he was snoring right in my ear. Now that we sleep in two different rooms we both get sleep at night. It was the one thing affecting all the other good parts of our marriage. I don't care what other people think, because it's working so well for us.

[@LaLaBlahBlahh]

I personally don’t get why anyone would think it’s odd that they haven’t immediately cancelled their leases (or one of them).. that’s a big deal and I can totally see myself just waiting it out until my lease ends in a couple of months

[@LaLaBlahBlahh]

@Tammy Thompson oh really? Didn’t realise that. But I wonder was the reunion filmed around the time of the show’s filming - like a few months after- or recently?

[@Feliciatanktop]

@@tammythompson9789no it hasn't. Filming was during 2021. They said they don't want to screw over their roommates, who signed the leases with them. That seems like a pretty good reason to me

[@nayelimirandaf.]

13:17 aaaww bebito Kirk 💖

[@lucylohan8894]

His body language is very hovering

[@elysitafernandez7225]

It seems like he doesn’t want her and Cole to make eye contact.

[@kpeugh2011]

“We think that the way we intent to look is how we look”. I totally feel that. Apparently I have an “extreme resting angry face” when I’m reading. I have to warn folks.

[@therookiesplaybook]

She's terrified of him, and he's all over her personal space making sure she doesn't say the "wrong" thing.

[@zonthisv4915]

It's also noticeable in her tone of voice. Compare it to the pace and pitch of her talking in the interviews during the pods stage. She speaks slower, in a lower pitch and with a very low volume. It's because she's not freely expressing herself like she used to

[@sosweetmeanstreak]

I'm only assuming, obviously, but if Matt was willing to be so angry with her from the get go, on TELEVISION, then he's willing to be even angrier behind doors.

[@Ruk15]

Yes very scary thought

[@Sadji594]

You are seeing everything we all saw, like girl.blink twice

[@Watchingvids01]

Just realized he kept answering n didn’t even offer she answer, i think hes tryna save face for his behavior

[@JustForFunST]

I love what you said about filming yourself. To be certified as a teacher I had to film myself teaching a lesson and when I watched it back I couldn't believe how quickly I spoke! I slowed down a lot after that!

[@bhopcsgo7172]

I think it would be helpful to talk about this stuff within the context of reality dating shows as a whole, which is a huge industry now. For example, I think some of the guys are thinking and acting in a way they see on other big shows that are a totally different style (Love Island, Bachelor In Paradise) where going between women, talking about them comparatively, and that whole group dynamic are a big part of the show. Love your content!

[@lisapvpv]

In another interview with Nancy, she said that the show was filmed over 1.5yrs ago, and the reunion was about a month ago (after summer). Makes u wonder for these 2, the living situation... after 1.5 yrs later.

[@DonInADress]

I watched their US weekly interview and they seemed more in sync and also said they wished they were asked more about Matt’s behaviour. And Colleen explained why she was so tense at the reunion. I think they’ll be ok and the show was just too intense for them but now they are doing their relationship their own way without the cameras and the drama.

[@emmaford4684]

I don’t like how close he is to her and like hanging over her like it just feels very controlling.

[@user-nc2fk1jy8l]

It’s funny isn’t it how we perceive things differently because to me his closeness felt nice and comforting and protective.

[@DodoToutDoux]

@N I see it the same way! She said she was super stressed out about the reunion, so I also think he is wrapping her/being close to her to comfort her.

[@Feliciatanktop]

Right like back tf up 😭

[@chaosthao2009]

Me patiently waiting for Dr. to dissect the Tangerine scene. 😅

[@andianderson3017]

I think the reality is that we have reason to be concerned, and we have reason to have hope. Matt didn’t seem completely unaware. It’s possible they are downplaying the interactions because it’s TV and hashing it out on camera or discussing it in detail isn’t what they want. He could be being protective of his nervous wife who knows her mistakes will be brought up, or he could be being controlling. We can’t know. What we CAN know is that Matt needs to be in therapy and some couples therapy is also probably a great idea. There’s hope. There’s reason to pray for her. You can never know what’s really going on with people just by looking.

[@hallop2145]

I think the danger of reading into someone's body language is not always necessarily that you might falsley pick up on something remarquable, but rather that there could be a million reasons for why someone seems and is uncomfortable. Personally, my first thought after watching the reunion was that she was nervous about addressing her flirting with cole and how her personality and the relationship came across, not about the current state of the relationship. I think I would freak out in a situation like this, even if I was not made to be a villain at all. I often wonder how many of these people on reality TV take vaium or Xanax before attending a reunion, partly because in some shows like housewives they jokingly address this.

[@amosquito9968]

EXACTLY. This is how I saw things too, I wish people could hold their strong opinions loosely in case there are other explanations for things

[@hashtagmate]

Funny how all former abuse victims amongst various platforms agree that he seems abusive, must be all in our heads surely she was just nervous to be on camera yup

[@hallop2145]

@@hashtagmate We didn't say anything about whether or not he is abusive. We are just saying, if he is, it wouldn't necessarily translate into this kind of behavior in this kind of situation. And that odd behaviour can have many reasons. Also, you can not speak for "all abuse victims" or assume that people who disagree are not.

[@tamaratovamalchi1183]

Dr. Honda. Look at his eyes darting back and forth... When Colleen was talking about them not living together.. I was in an abusive marriage, that I am no longer in, and I will never forget the darting of the eyes back and forth, when he was triggered....that I had never seen in anyone's eyes in previous relationships

[@tamaratovamalchi1183]

At 8 :37

[@ethorn6661]

Colleen doesn't want to make a mistake making him mad

[@abandonablesnowman]

I appreciate Kirk having this concern for Colleen, because I think a lot of people see her as the villain in this situation, especially with the way internet culture is now with misogyny

[@dassijes5943]

A lot of people see her as the villain in her relationship with Matt? 😮

[@abandonablesnowman]

@@dassijes5943 Yeah, I could see a lot of people interpreting it that way and being on Matt’s side

[@jamiecare1042]

@@abandonablesnowman I have yet to see a single person online blaming Colleen

[@muresanana-maria1050]

Coleen said she looked scared because of the anticipation of the "scene' being shown, but she was looking terrified throughout the entire show and barely spoke. It was so weird. Something there seems so strange, she looked more than scared, she was so tense. I hope she's just awkward and there's not something awful going on there.

[@YukonAML]

I stand by my separate beedrooms! Best way to live 💜

[@Pink_Mink]

Matt saying Say it say it say it with his demon eyes I’ll never forget. She tells him she loves him and it wasn’t good enough for him he said stop playing games. Insecure little boy who uses his past as an excuse to abuse her.

[@DodoToutDoux]

If Matt is evil, what is Angela?

[@Dan5819]

Matt reminds me of my friend's very emotionally abusive ex-husband. I hope she has some good friends to help her leave him one day when she realizes she deserves better in her life. It seems to me Colleen has a hard time even looking at him. She is deluding herself like my friend was doing --- but sooner or later, with good friends, she will get the strength to escape his grip.

[@laurelmackereth1308]

Glad to see a professional take on her body language and Matt’s behaviors. That man clearly hasn’t dealt with what happened in his last marriage and desperately needs some therapy. Colleen does not deserve that kind of treatment. This was a couple I was really hoping would not end up getting married. My impression of Colleen was that she just really wanted to find SOMEBODY. Which unfortunately makes you more susceptible to sticking in a bad relationship.

[@cuccuism]

"I'm smiling on the inside" So cute

[@emmadear3276]

She looked like she was gonna have a panick attack all the reunion

[@laurie_guilbeau]

I've been with my boyfriend for eight years and we just recently moved in together. I haven't moved all my stuff into his house and haven't ended my previous lease, but we're easing into the adjustment. Sometimes people need time to feel comfortable with the idea of making such a huge life change and commitment

[@sarahgumball8597]

I always feel like I’m smiling and then I look in the mirror and I’m doing this 😐

[@tynisharose4252]

I do have to say for Colleen and Matt, I know I’m my lease it says if I break it I would have to pay 3x the rent so I get they might not have that as the average apartment is like $2000.

[@guadalupecastruita6762]

I literally picked up the same thing… she’s acting very strange, she knows what she got herself into just because she was in love or obsessed with the idea of being married

[@STasugx]

I think what Colleen suffers from the most are the viewers/commenters. The viewers are the ones who lambasted her for the pool scene. The viewers are now the ones who are vehemently describing their relationship as abusive without any actual proof (just sensitivity and feelings). She even confirmed what she was feeling in the reunion, but the viewers infantilize her by disregarding her statements and continuing to push this narrative onto them. Even if the viewers are right, they’re doing more damage than good at this point and need to let the couple work things out on their own.

[@DodoToutDoux]

THIS!!!

[@tamaratovamalchi1183]

8:36.. look at matt's eyes darting back and forth whole time while she is overexplaining the living situation. It's like he is scared she is going to reveal something . We want to hear your opinion on this Dr. Kirk !

[@tamaratovamalchi1183]

Or maybe he is trying to conjure up his next excuse

[@Emxo333]

Ppl see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear. Some people think he’s abusing her and nothing will change their mind, not even dr. Hondas expertise.

[@Bea_22]

What if she's just being anxious overall? I have social anxiety and this is how my body language looks too

[@breaktheroof]

so excited for the cutie incident

[@lynnd5342]

Omg yes!!! I’m eagerly waiting over here😬😂

[@randlynch9582]

My husband was in the process of posting his townhome on the market to sell it. And we waited for all that to be over to buy our house, new house. I just didn’t want to move in only to pack up and leave when the townhome sells. We’ve been married for 5 years now and living in our our new house. So in essence I started living with my husband 5 months after we got married. We did hang out every day and we slept together and cuddled etc It’s sort of like continuing to date despite the fact we are legally married. For older couples, we cannot plan everything perfectly with his house and my house etc

[@tulip5210]

i heard from an interview that she was terrified because of the online bullying, it could be many things.

[@jessibelle8836]

Can’t know for sure, but I don’t think you are reading into it. Get the vibe she is uncomfortable. She didn’t even know if she would say yes at alter and seems like she didn’t want to disappoint other people if she said no

[@Ruk15]

Colleen was not only being bullied by Matt but also seeemed terrified of the other girls condemning her

[@rebeccarodriguez8433]

He literally can’t be any closer to her . Like the camera can’t separate them in the frame at all …so uncomfortable

[@unicornL]

Apparently I'm really fired up because this is comment #3 for me. That said- the saying Love is Blind is a cautionary saying- like don't get swept up in the moment or in lust- so basically the premise of this show- to settle in love. You know, because you end up ignoring red flags along the way. So yeah....

[@Figs_and_Peaches]

I really wish that in all stages of this show the cast had access to individual and couples therapy so that they could have a better chance of addressing the issues they are dealing with…

[@moriel1626]

Here in Germany it's even quite normal for couples to live apart, even married couples (some german couples also never marry but that's unrelated). Some people need more space than others that way they don't fight as much also for some people, who have been through an abusive relationship, it's important to stay independent.

[@nanablooms]

Great episode 🙂

[@magorzatango6378]

They show (meaning production and hosts) lost their sight completely. They keep saying it is "experiment" but are so judgmental throughout the process with their editing and the way they hold the space during open conversation at the reunion. They fail to remind the cast that there are no rights and wrongs in such scenario as this is not an ordinary way to enter the relationship and marriage so there is no rights and wrongs in how people handle either the breakup or the fast-tracked marriage. Pushing "the lease" topic as if them not living together needed some additional explanation while them getting married after 2 months and reconstructing their lives within that time instead of few years like in "ordinary" relationship is left with no commentary at all. It takes away the shows' credibility and honesty making it another highly produced, guilty-pleasure with no substance TV show :)

[@magikenzee]

HAS HE DONE THE CUTIES SCENE, DID I MISS IT IM LOST HOWD I GET HERE

[@jennshoultes6195]

I saw an interview with Colleen (Matt was in the background getting ready for work). Matt lives and works in Fort Worth. Colleen lives in Dallas. Neither want to move. They seem fine. I think Colleen was uncomfortable about the reunion and having to relive fights

[@pinksalmon9882]

Colleen probably kept her lease as a backup plan if things didn’t work out with Matt

[@crazylicious85]

I thought they said she was uncomfortable due to all the hate she got online once the show aired.

[@tinyelephant77]

Idk about her body language here, but I'm definitely worried for her given his behavior and escalation of issues during the season. He has a hair trigger and seems very insecure and jealous. And instead of going to therapy, now she has to manage his issues. Could potentially become abusive quickly. Frankly, by my standards, he was already emotionally abusive during the season.

[@melvaughn29]

It seemed like she was desperate to pick any guy..she wouldn't have left that show without someone. If not Bartise or Cole, then Matt. It just seemed she didn't care 'who it was', she just wanted a relationship. Then she settles on 'abuse'.

[@sportsscience3]

I think he's shielding her from Cole, and I think she is terrified to look in Cole's direction. I'm guessing he's made her feel horrible about Cole and their exchange at the pool many times since the show ended.

[@Levisoul07]

You mean cole?

[@sportsscience3]

@@Levisoul07 yes, sorry Cole!

[@AliciaMcIntire]

Later, they talked about how Colleen has 3 jobs and works crazy hours. She probably doesn't need to work that much, so I got the impression that she is working more to avoid Matt

[@oranjjetofu4054]

This is way over speculating on the situation. They said she has 2 jobs, her PR job which is probably her primary job at the moment and her job as a ballerina which is probably her true passion.

[@nnn9122]

I think she was working 3 jobs before she was on the show.

[@oranjjetofu4054]

@@nnn9122 Well 2 jobs or 3, whatever it may be, OP was way over-speculating

[@nnn9122]

@@oranjjetofu4054 I agree with you.

[@inovermyhead2988]

Never clicked so fast on a video in my life.

[@DodoToutDoux]

Unpopular opinion: I really don’t think Matt is abusive. He has does have traumas, but he doesn’t come off as being abusive to me. I believe she was scared of people’s comments and backlash during the reunion. And I think that is why Matt is kinda wrapped around her to make her feel secure in that moment.

[@shivareewaltz]

I think Matt is a ticking time bomb and she needs to run. He hasn't healed from his ex wife cheating on him. Seriously Colleen, blink twice if you need help.

[@quarantinepotato3201]

It's very clear that she has to walk on eggshells cause Matt can lose it at any moment.

[@anniesmith298]

Do you think Tiffany gave off the same discomfort and body language that Coleen gave off? A couple of people are saying Brett may have exhibited some narcissistic traits

[@PoliticallyPink]

Matt is a scary guy and I was/am frightened for Colleen. I can't imagine her (or anyone) having a happy, fulfilled life with Matt unless/until he experiences significant growth.

[@user-dv8bs7tb5c]

These two are so emotionally stunted

[@jinx724]

I think everyone should watch Colleen's reaction to this before we say Matt is abusive. Colleen said her body language here and the way she's talk is because she was being bullied online and she was afraid to speak at the reunion because of how fans were reacting. As someone who was emotionally abused I think we need to be more careful throwing around accusations if you're not actually going to do anything/can't do anything. Someone mentioned his body language was hovering but his body language also could have been protective.

[@TheMaltebella]

I agree. I don't like him. He really rubs me the wrong way but I do agree. He is very insecure.

[@Nita_Key]

Or Colleen is actually being bullied at home by Matt and is covering for him. I've heard nothing that would make me believe she's getting bullied like that online. Most of us are thinking she should blink twice for help.

[@lav7161]

I have to disagree only because of how Colleen has never showed how she can stand up for herself. She's a sweetheart, the only way I can agree with you is if we had any evidence of her ever standing up for herself during the show and that was never any example. There's was plenty of examples of him being super insecure and carrying his past relationship problems into his new one.

[@Denchanter]

She’s abused online? Sure!

[@samanthas8340]

Obviously no body actually knows what's going on behind the scenes but to this mysonistic belief that men should be protective is just damaging imo. It doesn't equate to equal partnership :/

[@1stdaughter]

The math ain't mathin on the whole"we don't live together" explanation but the dynamic between those two has been, uh, questionable at best. Forget about the reunion body language. Matt's a giant red flag and I hate that Colleen couldn't walk away.

[@DodoToutDoux]

As a grown and mature woman solely involved in this relationship, she chose to marry him, so we should respect her decision.

[@roxylady79]

whatching themwas triggering to me he has alotttt of red flags and my stomac was turning ....it was not conflict it was abuse!

[@Ruk15]

Because they demonised Cole , Matt seemed to get away with a lot of toxic behaviour… Cole was so open and emotionally vulnerable and he got attacked for it, yet Matt’s behaviour was justified, not cool

[@amyann47]

I think recording myself would be a good idea. My husband said I was giving him dirty looks but in my head I’m chillin. RBF problems lol smiling on the inside.

[@tulip5210]

I feel like your teasing us xD.