Lowering expectations for Metroid Prime 4 . . .

[@MakeYour_OwnFate]

Your Prime 2 game and Prime 4 trailer opinions are hilarious… I’ve never ever heard anybody complain about too much gameplay in a trailer🤣 normally it’s the other way around Yes replay Prime 2 please, update your opinions

[@phazonphlakes]

Prime 2 is the best prime game imo. I know everyone has their favorite though but I think your selling prime 2 short. Also why are you dooming over a 30 second teaser trailer. At least wait until they really show the game off next year.

[@JonathanCoates89]

I agree lol, very fond memories of prime 2

[@carloshooker-bp4tn]

Retro studios has done everything right so far for metroid prime 4 Beyond hiring talented people, using the best assets the rude engine can offer, and putting it out on the switch and its successor. We have been waiting seven years for gameplay and now we got it sure the trailer could have been better but now all we can do is hope for the best when it releases. Also the franchise was not dead it just went into hiatus after the events of other m and federation force.

[@barbaraziviani9123]

A lot of your complaints abou the trailer boil down to personal preference. I loved the new samus desing, and i suspect the new suit was conceived with its use on motion capture scenes in mind (the scene where samus rolls to the side to avoid debris, looks like motion capture to me. Also, a lot of job positions at retro hinted at it). Sylyx is perfect, they translated his suit from Hunters, to a more Realistic style, while maiting his iconic look. The graphics are good, i dont know what you expected, but the game was promised for the Switch from the very beggining. I see a lot of fans complaining about the new Samus fanfarre, and ????, whats wrong with a new style for this new game (or trilogy)? Fusion and Dread changed the style a lot more, yet, i didnt see as many people complaining abt it. Now, on the trailer itself... yeah, it was okay-ish, tought, I wouldn't worry too much, at least not until we see the next trailers. The TOTK and BOTW trailers really showed almost nothing, until the last trailer, right bf4 launch

[@youtubeshadowbannedmylasta2629]

you'd rather see cinematics than gameplay? what the hell first time I've ever heard someone say something like that, lol you sound like a tourist.

[@excellence5144]

I'd rather see a well made trailer. For example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZPPamR3eceAb8Usi=asQ0nQdq-ZGEJm-j

[@MakeYour_OwnFate]

I said the exact same thing as you🤣🤣 usually it’s the other way around with complaints about trailers

[@Mirror371]

So people can’t have opinions or differences?

[@youtubeshadowbannedmylasta2629]

@@Mirror371 ok sure.

[@Terron29]

I gotta say I loved the trailer for prime 4. Think it looks great. Prime remastered on the switch looked fantastic so if the game looks as good as that im happy. Hopefully cool new upgrades ans better more interesting bosses. Cant wait personally.

[@thenonexistinghero]

I hated it. Zero exploration, zero new mechanics and focus on combat on hectic battlefields. It's like they're trying to turn it into Call of Duty.

[@Terron29]

@@thenonexistinghero oh I didnt really look at it that way at all. I think simply getting to see the game, what it looks like and what the combat will be like as well as some music is enough for a good trailer. I would be devastated if its an action focused experience. I fully expect it to have a very heavy emphasis on exploration and atmosphere. My two favorite aspects to any metroidvania. Time will tell of course.

[@rhomayyann4691]

​​@@thenonexistinghero You have to be trolling. There's no way you're serious. It was a short 2 min trailer. Prime 1, 2, and 3 all started out action focused at first then slowed down for exploration. And we get a glimpse of exploration in the last 10 secs of the trailer. To have that drastic of an opinion when we know so little about the game is ridiculous.

[@rhomayyann4691]

​@@Terron29 Ignore that comment. They're take is trash. Every Prime game started out action focused then toned it down for exploration. Like the MP4 trailer did. The last 10 seconds showed off the more slow paced exploration Metroid is known for. It's going to be great.

[@thenonexistinghero]

@rhomayyann4691 Can't even count how often I've seen your shoddy argument in the past 2 decades and how often I ended up being right. Trailers very much tend to say a lot about games. If they didn't they wouldn't exist.

[@nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh777]

Imma b fr dude im tryna hear you out but i feel like you dont like the series, not attacking or anything but i feel like a lot of the complaints you got with the trailer are somewhat nitpicks, like samus coming out of the shit and the theme going on, thats like, been a staple of the entire series, its not going to be a main menu theme, maybe i misinterpreted what you meant but i felt that was a weird nitpick, or how the game doesnt look good? Like i feel the game looks fucking fantastic for the switch, plus retro hiring people specifically for raytracing tells me for the next switch it's going to be super amazing in terms of graphic infidelity. Although i kinda see what you're coming at, trying to base with everything nintendo has shown us, but i feel you should be hopefull rather than fall yourself in the doomer mindset with this game, being worried about a lot of games today dont deliver shouldnt apply to nintendo when 95% of the time they make sure that their games are top noch, *especially* with the metroid series. I say give the new team hope

[@mardoxideodahzmar223]

Felt the same especially when he mentioned 3 was “too long”

[@MakeYour_OwnFate]

Prime 3 too long part makes no sense. It’s as long as Prime 1. Prime 2 is the longest

[@mardoxideodahzmar223]

@ still. Wouldn’t you want a Metroid game to be “long” I can’t stand this guy at all “lowering expectations for Metroid prime 4” dog if you’re not a Metroid fan then just come out and say it, didn’t have to make a video about you not liking the game series and nitpicking/ranting about shit you didn’t like about the game either.

[@Mr.Xxxxxxxxx]

Man prime 2 is the best one

[@excellence5144]

Tbh I can see it. Gaming brits prime 2 vid does a great argument for prime 2 being videogame art so I understand, but as of writing this comment, its my least favorite in the trilogy

[@Joseph928100]

I didn't like prime 2 when I played the 1st time but every time I replay it I like it more and more. Prime 1 still best but prime 2 is better than prime 3. Prime 3 felt too linear

[@SlickTater]

I never thought I’d encounter another person that pronounces Samus’ name that way

[@excellence5144]

thank smash melee

[@SlickTater]

@@excellence5144smash 64 for me

[@EduardoFlores-bt4fo]

Cringe Elon Musk jumpscare

[@-ak-634]

I'm as hyped as I was for the whole Prime trilogy in their individual releases and none of them disappoint. I'm hoping the same for this game, whatever format it takes comparing to the three legendary games.

[@excellence5144]

Heyyyyyyy what you think about Prime 4? Hyped? Not Hyped? What's going on in your noggin?

[@SturmAH]

I fear it could be too safe of a sequel, but yeah, it is way too early to tell from such a short trailer.

[@batteryjuice3041]

As an older guy 40+ I totally agree with that of expecations are getting lower and lower.. Companies are doing math these days ignoring the passion of creation. To create something great you need a free genuine passion, something that the CEO's wont let you do. But when the creative time get the freedom you often get great hits, not just robotic copycat crap.. But I hope this game does good

[@WeeG-bwc77]

Hype tempered, expecting a standard Prime game, which compared to most games nowadays may be great to amazing by comparison... That will at least be a victory for Retro, but if they want another Trilogy, which I assume Nintendo does - they will need to release a 10/10 game and nothing less than that next year. No bullsh*t, no controversy, no over-complications.

[@excellence5144]

agreed

[@chrisbarnes3660]

I feel bad for Prime 2, it’s my personal favourite of the trilogy so far despite being much harder than the others I felt really engaged with it but I know I’m firmly in the minority here!

[@excellence5144]

Aloooot of people love Prime 2, so don't think you are alone. If I was to give a 100% re-evaluation, I would likely play gamecube and the wii versions(the easier version) again. Its a good game but feels very anti-player

[@CharlesFerraro]

Gotta say I agree. I don’t realistically see how Metroid Prime 4 can be better than the likes of Doom Eternal which you can play on Switch right now!

[@Austinator0630]

The future of Retro Studios is dependant on how Metroid Prime 4 Beyond turns out.

[@batteryjuice3041]

No shit sherlock =)

[@thenonexistinghero]

I lowered my expectations years before it was seen because it was obviously in development hell and usually that doesn't spell much good for the game. Then also lowered it a bit more when the game was shown... because what they showed just wasn't very impressive. Graphically it looked pretty okay, but what they showed was basically a chaotic battle. Not only is that something that I don't care about in a Metroid game, but we've also already had that in Prime 3's opening. And about equally as bad is the fact that they didn't even show any new gameplay mechanics to look forward to. Honestly, I think it's an abomination of a trailer. If trailers are meant to set expectations, then the expectations with this trailer are set completely wrong. Metroid's strongest points lie in its exploration and the feeling of being almost alone on a dangerous planet. Yet the expectation they wanted to set is Call of Duty. I could be wrong and would love to be wrong, but my expectation is that this game will have a heavy focus on combat and not as much on exploration.

[@charlesmeniru5082]

It’s a teaser trailer quit yapping

[@thenonexistinghero]

@@charlesmeniru5082 Trash argument. Trailers are meant to impress and what this trailer did was make me extremely skeptical.

[@codyv3983]

I 100% agree. I come back to the trailer every few weeks and I am more underwhelmed each time. They should've showed off new environments with emphasis on isolation, teased new abilities and enemies. Hoping this was something they rushed out just to show that it exists and future announcements will show more of what we want in a Prime game.

[@charlesmeniru5082]

@@thenonexistingheroagain it’s a teaser for a game that won’t come out for a year. They’re obviously not gonna spoil a lot of new mechanics in the very first trailer lol

[@gunnerdunn8848]

I honestly don't have much hope for the triple A market, qualities drop and most of these game companies settle for mediocre quality or the old push it out now and finish it later in patches and updates method, some games did well with that like no man's sky and cyberpunk but those are the only two that pop off in my head.

[@nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh777]

Yes great point big issue though its nintendo

[@nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh777]

And also retro

[@caseykraven4414]

Just ignore that Other M exists and you should be good 👍

[@COFFEEBREAKRACING]

Metroid games always generates a lot of attention before they release but they always fail to sell many copies. This franchise is a commercial failure, that’s the hard truth

[@johnleonard9102]

Ever since I learned about Megan Fausti and her working as a writer for Prime 4, my hype has deflated significantly.

[@rhomayyann4691]

You know she left Retro in 2022 right? She hasn't been apart of the team for some time. There are old devs that talk about having friends that still work for Retro that will make sure this games great. Look up Retro studios devs talk about Prime 4.

[@charlesmeniru5082]

@@rhomayyann4691fr Nintendo wasn’t going to let them ruin one of their best characters

[@DEATHxTHExKIDx1]

Nooooo

[@robertkenny1201]

Yeah I agree with this video espically since Metroid has never been a system seller for Nintendo, infact it was practically a dead franchise before Dread saved the franchise.

[@bustywaifus]

I didn't like Dread though...

[@excellence5144]

@@bustywaifus Dread wasn't my favorite, and I don't know if it has "saved the franchise" yet . . . but I respect the developers and the overall clarity of the experience Dread brought to the table. It felt like a genuine creative vision that took risks in contrast to their previous game, Samus Returns, which was a total cash grab( as it relates to the originality and creativity of the series). Need to play most of the 2D Metroid's still however. . . .

[@Andrew-kv4ru]

@@excellence5144 I've played Metroid Prime Zero Mission and I got stuck, tried to look it up but still couldn't get it. Haven't played any other 2d Metroid games but it was still fun.

[@robertkenny1201]

@excellence5144 last I checked Metroid Dread is the only Metroid game to break 3 million in sales to date, also I personally liked Samus Returns.

[@thenonexistinghero]

@@excellence5144 I think Dread is extremely overrated. The game is the most linear Metroid game ever created. Literally the only way to diverge from the main path is through sequence breaks, at no point in the game before the endgame is there a way to freely explore without doing that. I'm someone who tries to go into every path but the main path first in these types of games, but in Dread it was just dreadful. Fusion is pretty linear too, but there are points in the game where you can actually explore (without requiring sequence breaks), but that's not the case in Dread at all. I do think Dread's bosses for most part are pretty great and it looks nice visually, but overall it felt like a weak game. I couldn't do the one thing I really love doing in Metroid games, which is getting lost and exploring. You can't do that until the endgame where you basically just revisit every area to grab anything that you missed or that was impossible to get at first. Well, technically it is possible at very few points in the game to backtrack and make your way out and then explore 'some' areas a bit, but since it wasn't intended it takes ages to actually do that. Makes for a very mindless and boring backtrack and you'll need to go all the way back to the main story path afterwards with the exact same route as before.