I know 32 acp isn’t considered that great a round, and yet when I look at my situation, how often I’m sitting down at a desk, I’d rather have a Tomcat in my pocket than leave a gun at home/in the car.
@OldPackMule2 жыл бұрын
I've always said the perpetrators never stop to ask what caliber is the lead that is flying in their direction.
@ChristofHarper2 жыл бұрын
LCP2 in 22. Just noting it exists
@ronaldwoofer50242 жыл бұрын
@@OldPackMule if its a pistol round they wont care... look at what happened in newyork. the guy was struc multiple times with a pistol round from someone carrying and he perpetrator took the rounds to his vest and returned fire killing the concealed carry guy... the good guy with a gun doesn't work anymore...
@Leonix132 жыл бұрын
Check out the Xtreme Cavitator ammo for .32
@_Frank_the_Tank2 жыл бұрын
I pocket carried a Keltec P32 for many years. I spend most of my hours at work strapped in a fall protection harness with a tool belt around my waist, so keeping any of my larger polymer pistols strapped to me and accessable under all my gear becomes a bit of a challenge. I did end up replacing the P32 with a Ruger LCP, which was then replaced by a LCP II, which was replaced by an LCP Max. People say .32 and .380 are too weak to do the job, but I still haven't met anyone willing to stand infront of one and have it unloaded into their center mass... With that said the LCP Max is definitely more "hefty" then the P32, but it isn't that much larger when laid side by side. I've gotten so use to having a small pistol in my front right pocket that it now just feels odd to not have something there, even if I'm away from work and carrying one of my larger pistols at my 4 o'clock I still have the LCP in my pocket.
@michaelward98802 жыл бұрын
The tilt up barrel is what makes it desirable for a lot of people who, for one reason or another, have difficulty racking a slide. My wife and daughter carry Tomcats. Me too, sometimes. I find them fascinating.
@niceguyniko2 жыл бұрын
Yes. He said that in the video...
@talisikid16182 жыл бұрын
Wish they still made tipup 80 series.
@klowen77782 жыл бұрын
Yep, makes sense for folks who don't wanna rack the slide. Though unless you're willing to carry one in the chamber, seems like a big tradeoff to first have to fish around for a loose cartridge, and then pop open the barrel to insert it... before you're even _'ready'._
@michaelward98802 жыл бұрын
@@klowen7778 When we carry, there's one in the chamber with safety on. The double action is a little stiff so sometimes I carry with safety off. It's pickey about ammo so I use nothing but Fiocchi FMJ. No problem yet.
@otm6462 жыл бұрын
That's mostly a failure in technique not grip strength. I've taught 67 year old 100 lb women how to do it with no prior firearms training.
@drain_0012 жыл бұрын
I daily carry my Tomcat Inox, I love it. My specific Tomcat is the pistol shown on the Wikipedia article :) "If whatever you're shooting doesn't die after pumping eight .32 caliber slugs into it, it's probably a dragon." - Sterling Archer
@Beesa102 жыл бұрын
You own the actual Tomcat on shown on Wikipedia? Cool!
@drain_0012 жыл бұрын
@@Beesa10 with banana for scale!
@Osprey1994 Жыл бұрын
You should know there are people who have ate up more than 8 rounds of 9, and even multiple rounds of 5.56 and were still capable of posing a threat. If you're a great shot then yes .22 or .32 might be a viable option, but most people aren't and that's where a larger framed pistol with a modern caliber is beneficial. Additionally if you live in an area with bear then you definitely want 9mm, 40, 45, or 10mm (ideally 10mm in Grizzly territory). Of course the last important part is the fact that heavy clothing that you see in areas which get cold can really frustrate smaller rounds like .22 and .32 unlike a properly designed 9mm defensive round.
@BB-1990 Жыл бұрын
@@Osprey1994 LOL, okay. Thick clothing stops a .32 FMJ. LMAO, everything else you said is just jibber-jabber. Lastly, it was a line from a TV show Character!
@thatoneotherotherguy Жыл бұрын
@@Osprey1994know the limitations of the tool you’re using. For instance, don’t take a 9mm to a bear fight unless you’ve got a gruesome death wish.
@cletustollery69142 жыл бұрын
I've got my Dad's old 21A in the camera case he used to LEGALLY carry it in. Still laugh because he never had a phone with a camera, so he travelled with the 21A in one case and an actual camera in another. Former Marine, he also qualified (before online idiocy) for his CCW with a rare PPK .380 that I've yet to master. My Dad TAUGHT me how to shoot and took me to classes 40 years ago, miss him every day and thanks to those today that TEACH their kids about guns, safety and responsibility!
@Mike-kg4eh2 жыл бұрын
I have 2 Tomcats and a Bobcat. I love them both but usually carry one of the Tomcats because of the more powerful round. I really like the tip up barrel because they are very hard to rack back due to the small size. They both fit perfectly in my back pocket. I also have a 9mm Beretta. I just like Berettas, especially the visible hammer.
@Ed-ig7fj2 жыл бұрын
Berettas are grand pistols. They and Walthers (at least my P-38's) have the safety mounted on the slide. I find that this gives you an "ear" to hook your finger over when you rack the slide. This helps. --Old Guy
@zzxxooooxxzz49642 жыл бұрын
Ever use the Pico?? Definitely nothing Grand about that Pistol
@46god2 жыл бұрын
there’s definitely something special about berettas. i’ve been thinking about getting a tomcat to keep my 92fs company
@DarknessNation2 жыл бұрын
I am up to 5 Berettas atm.... love em all.
@boondogglet1322 жыл бұрын
I have a love hate with the Tomcat. I hate them because I have long skinny hands and will walk away from the range with a few snake bites. Love that they are great for "casual" carry weapons. like shoving into a pocket or an edc bag and going about the day not having to worry about imprinting to everyone. *I should edit, that pocket carrying or not in a holster, its always best to keep chamber empty. yes it adds for a longer ready time, however it is the safest option
@pughconsulting2 жыл бұрын
The tomcat fits perfectly in the overhead storage on many Chevy trucks while staying very well hidden.
@cagneybillingsley21652 жыл бұрын
perfect carry piece for children
@pughconsulting2 жыл бұрын
@@cagneybillingsley2165 backup gun
@mrmicro222 жыл бұрын
@@cagneybillingsley2165 Autumn of Autumn's Armory disagrees.
@smartacus882 жыл бұрын
@@cagneybillingsley2165 Do better in life.
@davidmarkwald4502 жыл бұрын
@@cagneybillingsley2165 What? Surely you jest...🙄
@OldPackMule2 жыл бұрын
Having worked with someone who had severe nerve damage in the non-dominant hand I can say for sure that the tip up barrel is a wonderful feature for that person.
@joewright23042 жыл бұрын
I've been carrying a Tomcat for several years. It has become my most used summer carry and I consider it an ideal tee shirt gun.
@andrewgreiner46812 жыл бұрын
how do you carry it?
@jacka55six602 жыл бұрын
@@andrewgreiner4681 Like a pack of smokes in the 50's 😂🤣😂
@augustolima13172 жыл бұрын
@@jacka55six60 Jesus im gonna buy one just tô put behind my pack of smokes in brazil...
@Brad-ic4bp2 жыл бұрын
I actually finally took my new Tomcat to the range today to try it out (I bought it like 7 weeks ago). I've never fired a 32 ACP, and I was surprised at the lack of recoil. It's like a .22 LR. Very fun to shoot. As a pocket pistol, it's so much smaller than my P365, LCP or S&W Centennial revolvers like the 642 and 351C. I can't believe these aren't bigger sellers. I think most people see them as a novelty gun for some reason.
@GunFunZS2 жыл бұрын
I would say the power is a major factor. Also will I like these pistols shooting them accurately fast and much harder than doing the same thing with something like an LCP2 or a Taurus 738, sig p238, etc. I'll also add that on most of these I find they manual safety to be kind of awkward and if you add all of the actions required to get it into to action, It's another major deficiency for the older design. Often with these things you're going to fumble it out of your pocket holster use two hands to disengage the safety or break your firing grip and do an awkward contortion, then wobble around a little bit to find your site picture because they don't quite point right, and they have tiny little black sights. For a fair amount of them after you take your first shot you're going to have to fix your grip again. .... Now I know you're going to say you don't have any of those problems and that you've learned to overcome that. Yeah me too but go take one of these to the range and hand it to five or six random people and you will see exactly what I'm talking about. These aren't the guns that are mostly owned by people who shoot a lot they're mostly owned by people who don't shoot a lot. And they're a little bit more difficult to use easily for everything except for the barrel tip of feature.
@never2be072 жыл бұрын
32 is a lot harder to find than 22LR. You can still get 22 from Walmart
@davidmarkwald4502 жыл бұрын
@@GunFunZS well... If you're going to carry a gun, maybe having some idea what to do would be helpful. Or then just hope for the best I guess. 🤔🙄 A last option would be to just run and hide.☹
@davidmarkwald4502 жыл бұрын
@@GunFunZS You made some valid points. But if those are real worries perhaps that type of person shouldn't even consider carrying, for their own safety. I know I'd feel safer if they didn't fumble around near me. No disrespect intended, just throwing my 2 cents out there.
@Osprey1994 Жыл бұрын
The issue is they are freaking small, and they don't offer you a caliber that most people are willing to trust. Combine that with the fact that I know some people like myself prefer to stick to very specific commonly found calibers.
@michaeldimartino10042 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my 21A for over 30 years. Still works great (as long as I use CCI mini mags).
@MrBurn14me2 жыл бұрын
Mine too man. 40gr solids and its damn near 100%. The 36gr hollow points also work almost as well, but i noticed even with its short tube, those 40s hit and drive deep. Its def a cool little gun. 200 feathers I paid for mine.
@smartacus882 жыл бұрын
I've found mine works great with anything just about, so long as I flip the barrel up and take a q-tip to the chamber and feed ramp after firing a few mags through it.
@textexan60102 жыл бұрын
One thing I like about these firearms is they fit very well in my hand, very meaty.
@victorboucher6752 жыл бұрын
My 950 is close to 40 years old, think of these as a a quality life time purchase. Better than a sharp stick - beats a knife every time - fits in your front pocket - unbreakable (gas) extractor - safest auto with a tip barrel and fast to clear a jam - learn old school army combat shooting to compensate for minimum (snag free) sights - if you have a thumb, works great on the hammer for cocking SA style - and, you can "park it" with the barrel open (tipped up) to show unload/load condition in your ...
@andrewstraub1314 ай бұрын
The only issue that I have encountered is that a dirty chamber (read 60 rounds) it seems to hate to eject (not a problem in a defensive pistol ) and it seems to loooove aguilla 60gr sss
@Vtfilamguy2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a great presentation as always. I completely agree that these firearms are woefully under rated. Beretta 21A is the first pistol I ever shot in my teens, getting an Inox version just a couple years ago has satisfied a decades long chase.
@LuckyGunner2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Hope you're enjoying the Inox
@lordhellfire1532 жыл бұрын
Good lord they made an Inox??
@Vtfilamguy2 жыл бұрын
@@lordhellfire153 yes and now I need a blued model to compliment it.
@stevekatz4372 Жыл бұрын
At 79 years old, I now only shoot the 22LR or 22 Magnum guns because of some nerve damage in both my hands. I love my Bob Cat and I also own 5 other 22LR/22Mag guns and I shoot them as good as I did with my more powerful guns in the past! I shoot at my LGR every week and I do carry my Bob Cat at times in my right front pocket, with confidence as a self defense weapon! Yes, I had to make these adjustments but I am having more fun than ever at my LGR and Life is good here in Sunny Florida, the Gun Friendly State!
@13thGenPatriot Жыл бұрын
Look into Federal Punch ammo for self defense. CCI is supposed to be coming out with a self defense round called Uppercut. Both are designed to fire out of short barrels. (Quick burn powder)
@lanedexter63032 жыл бұрын
Strange for an old guy who has carried a 1911 .45 for that many years, but I must admit a fascination with those tilt barrel mouse guns, especially the .22. Any pocket pistol is likely to need a “shakedown” and maybe some fiddling. There’s a company making better springs, so with a little fiddling and a simple mod or two, you can make even a Phoenix HP22 into a decent gun.
@thingthingsss2 жыл бұрын
Considering I had a HP25 break the breach face, I wouldn't touch one with a 10ft pole anymore.
@Ed-ig7fj2 жыл бұрын
As they say, that .22 in your pocket is way more useful than the .45 that was too big to bring! --Old Guy
@lanedexter63032 жыл бұрын
@@thingthingsss wow! That’s an eye opener.
@jeb67042 жыл бұрын
Got a 21A about 30 years ago. It had numerous problems as well as jamming. Sent it back to Beretta. They returned it with a long list of items they fixed. Since then it has been flawless! It is now the one I pickup to walk around the block or a quick errand. Good pocket holster, no fuss. Sights such but I do just fine at 5 yards. Yes, I have bigger fancier guns but this ca go anywhere. Good review especially comments on front sight.
@dougr5379 Жыл бұрын
I picked up the 21A Covert recently and combined with a De Santis pocket holster, it has become my minimum daily carry. Shoots accurate and reliably with CCI ammo, looks cool and a great little suppressor host. I've shot the Bobcat at 50 yards on a DPS man silhouette, and surprisingly able to score center chest hit every time. If my attire allows, I also carry my G19. Either way, I'm 100% sure the little Bobcat can handle any typical situation I'm likely to ever encounter.
@cacinaz88022 жыл бұрын
Both of these guns are hammer fired, DA/SA with a tip up barrel and manual safety. The DA/SA trigger combined with the manual safety provides optimal safety for concealed (pocket) carry, and the tip up barrel makes it easy to load for many who do not have adequate hand strength to rack the slide of the other so called pocket pistols. You have spent considerable time and effort finding the "perfect" DA/SA gun in other videos. I've been around firearms my entire life, but has suffered through an accidental discharge. I will not carry any pistol without a safety nor will I allow my wife to do so. She carries the Tomcat, and is a good shot for a 78 year old lady. I switched from a P365 to a SCCY CPX-1 for the reasons mentioned above. I just don't feel comfortable carrying a striker pistol. Either of these pistols is well suited for self-defense, and to assume these guns are designed for other purposes is misguided.
@KhanTrav2 жыл бұрын
You have some of the best pocket pistol information on KZbin. I carry a Beretta 950BS as a second pistol and I love it.
@sjc14122 жыл бұрын
I had my bobcat front sight milled out and a custom rmr mount made and mounted to that area. Now, I can aim while suppressed and it’s alot more fun.
@LuckyGunner2 жыл бұрын
Seriously? I wouldn't have thought there was enough meat on that slide for a mounting plate. Would love to see pics of this setup if you have any.
@sjc14122 жыл бұрын
@@LuckyGunner not on the slide but where the front sight mounts. I figured the added weight on the slide would induce malfunctions.
@asathomas842 жыл бұрын
A review of the Tomcat on the release day for Top Gun: Maverick? Love it.
@LuckyGunner2 жыл бұрын
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@starkparker162 жыл бұрын
Greetings. 🖕🏻
@Dakattack982 жыл бұрын
My wife has a 21A. It's a great little gun. It's reliable with super Sonic ammo. It loves CCI Stingers.
@mgreen70632 жыл бұрын
Got my 21A when I traded something and was offered a .22 or a .25. I knew I'd shoot the .22 a lot more, and time has proven me right. between this and the Walther TPH I have 2 deep concealment guns, and this is a lot lighter than the all steel TPH. Thanks.
@Localjadedealer Жыл бұрын
CIA used the tph and 21a with a pill bottle suppressor.
@2Atreehugger2 жыл бұрын
I own the 22 version. It’s an awesome little gun. Very high quality. Easy to use. With stingers, I think it’s quite formidable
@davidmarkwald4502 жыл бұрын
I believe that Beretta recommends not to use stingers as a steady diet with this gun.
@2Atreehugger2 жыл бұрын
@@davidmarkwald450 yeah they will lead up the barrel too. So only testing with them. My Ruger 22/45 leaded up bad with them.
@d.g.n9392 Жыл бұрын
@@davidmarkwald450 I’ve used the stingers and velicitors some in the past. But this week using some stingers hollow point , they wanted to jam. I went on the use some mini mags round nose, those feed just fine. No jamming. So I came on here tonight looking for other opinions. I certainly don’t want my little pocket carry to possibly jam.
@sebathadah15592 жыл бұрын
I love my tomcat! Such a fun gun. Small yet substantial feeling in the hand.
@MrRufusjax Жыл бұрын
The point of the tip up barrel is not to assist those with weak hands. The point is not having to lower the hammer on a loaded chamber in order to carry it safely in double action mode. Actually a pretty cool solution to that problem.
@aguilayserpiente Жыл бұрын
Arthritis, carpal tunnel, tendon injury, disability, etc.
@01rcpena Жыл бұрын
@@aguilayserpiente So true! I once developed severe tendonitis in my right wrist at the age of about 35. It was extremely painful and incredibly debilitating. It was physically impossible to hold a washcloth, let alone pull the trigger on any of my firearms with that hand. Lasted about one year and then gradually healed. I was in great shape besides my wrist. I learned the importance of training to shoot one handed with both hands. It's not only older folks battling arthritis.
@aguilayserpiente Жыл бұрын
@@01rcpena I am happy for you that you recovered, from what for many is a permanent injury. What handgun do you prefer? Stay well and keep practicing.
@01rcpena Жыл бұрын
@@aguilayserpiente Thank you for your kind words. I typically carry my Sig Sauer P238 or a S&W Shield Plus PC.
@aguilayserpiente Жыл бұрын
@@01rcpena I will look into those suggestions or there equivalents.
@JP-up3ok5 ай бұрын
The tip up barrel is very handy for those with a weak grip, where racking a slide is near impossible. Also the sights, paint white on the rear sights, and orange in the front. Makes it much easier to see.
@kevinmcgovern51102 жыл бұрын
I’ve carried a Tomcat for ages cocked and locked and dropped it one or twice on the hammer, no problems-though it definitely should be avoided. In a nice pocket holster, I carry it L & L with confidence.
@torreyself2 жыл бұрын
I just bought the Bobcat in March and love it. After a few test rounds of different ammo it has settled on CCI Mini Mags and Stingers. It lives in my pocket as I work from home and always nice to have at the barn in case of snakes in the chicken coop.
@Unique3772 жыл бұрын
Heavy for a pocket pistol is just crazy i wear it while sleeping 😴 in my pajamas never had a problem with it. Forgot one too many times that it was even there while walking to the grocery store and back!
@brassmonkey75662 жыл бұрын
Bobcat was my first firearm purchase ever back in 90/91 cool pistol fit behind my wallet couldn't hit the barn if it was more than 6or7 yards
@inpalpatine20672 жыл бұрын
Same for me with a p32 and snubby. Bought some 6" guns I learned on and love to shoot and can now proficiently shoot the small ones.
@mikepreslar86865 ай бұрын
The accuracy of the Baretta is where it shines best. That and low recoil for accurate follow ups. Train to hit where you aim.
@erso33022 жыл бұрын
The Bobcat is to prevent the random ass-kicking. Point, scream, run. Also, I used an Arkansas stone w/oil on the slide rails, and it became a lot less picky on the ammo. Buttery smooth.
@tdhawk72842 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your reviews. You give a lot of info without a lot of fluff. You speak to both experienced and new shooters. Please do more reviews!
@randyjoe5952 жыл бұрын
Been thinking of a tomcat. I work a route job and make multiple stops a day in bad areas and carry customer cash payments often. I need something light that can fit in my pants pocket and be quickly drawn and deliver accurate fire center mass from 3 to 5 feet in a rapid manner with minimal recoil. Maybe a tomcat ? It makes sense. I can always have the Glock 19 in my truck.
@rwebb49882 жыл бұрын
Good report on the Tomcat and Bobcat. Both are fun and reliable. Also classy.
@capt.mike73ahoy142 жыл бұрын
My Bobcat 21a is fun to shoot and indeed it is finicky regarding the ammo. I tried 14 different types of ammo and the all around, always cycles, doesn't fail to eject, etc. is the much maligned Remington Thunderbolt! Good Memorial Day to all and thanks for the good video.
@lornenoland80982 жыл бұрын
Same ammo issues here. I found the no longer available Yellowjacket to be best
@walterthompson54172 жыл бұрын
CCI mini mags works with mine
@PetuniaIii-pd1ww2 жыл бұрын
We use thunderbolts for our range autos...I might be blowing smoke, but I've heard the thunderbolts are maybe .0005 skinnier than other .22 ammo, and thus cycle more reliably...all I know is the stuff works...
@eduardorivera41002 жыл бұрын
I grew up being told the bobcat was best for new shooters. The tilt barrel button and trigger really make it easy and safe. when not pointing down range keep the action open nothing can go wrong if you stress that the action stays open (till they’re confident)
@gsb5w2912 жыл бұрын
I’ve got the Bobcat in .25 acp. I wish I had purchased the .22LR instead because I’ve barely shot it. It does hold 8+1 so it’s got slightly more capacity and center fire is supposed to be more reliable. Good video.
@richiec76022 жыл бұрын
I have the Bobcat in .25 cap also. It is a older style gun in which the first round is single action only. Either you rack the slide which pulls back the hammer or if you put a round in the pop up barrel, you have to pull the hammer back with your thumb. The trigger does nothing if the hammer isn’t back. The mag release is near the bottom of the handle and the grips, which are wood, only has one screw on either side. The Bobcat, being an all metal gun and the .25 acp being a fairly light round, has very little kick. You can easily shoot it with one hand. My Ruger LCP in .380, being a light gun with a heavier round, kicks a lot more and is very difficult to shoot one handed.
@life_of_riley88 Жыл бұрын
For a range toy, 22 is more fun and wayyy cheaper cause you'll shoot it more. For an actual carry pistol 25acp was designed to always fire, and it does it's job well. Don't feel too bad, they're cool little pistols.
@luiscabrera39602 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t trade my 21A bobcat for anything, It’s never the size of the round but the placement😎
@AccordionJoe1 Жыл бұрын
I owned one. I couldn't hit anything with it so I sold it for a .380 Bersa. The gun weighs a few ounces more than the Bobcat but I can get a full grip and can do much better at hitting a target. And, like the Beretta, the Bersa is still small enough to slip into my coat pocket when I go out.
@SaltyMaverick9 ай бұрын
I have an old Beretta 81BB, and I love that thing. Now you're making me want this .32 Tomcat.
@johnelder42732 жыл бұрын
The point of both the Tomcat and the Bobcat is their classic beauty or nostalgia. It's not always about power and capacity. If you were attending a "Black Tie Affair" your obvious choices are these two guns or a Walther PPK but the Walther is heavy and of questionable reliability. An LCP Max and a Tux screams "hillbilly in a rented suit."
@macriggland65262 жыл бұрын
showing off your gun at all screams hillbilly in a rented suit.
@PERK-302 жыл бұрын
@@macriggland6526 you are cringe.
@macriggland65262 жыл бұрын
@@PERK-30 showing off your gun at a formal event is cringe.
@johnshepherd86872 жыл бұрын
Are you serious? If you are wearing a tux then you can conceal almost anything. Do you ever actually ever wear a coat and tie?
@macriggland65262 жыл бұрын
@@PERK-30 the women would get nervous and the men would literally suck air through their teeth, shake their heads, and CRINGE.
@amelsfr2 жыл бұрын
the tip-up barrell is genius... it helps a lot everyone, not just people with medical conditions or difficulties on their hands
@fixedG2 жыл бұрын
What a coincidence! I was just looking at Bobcats yesterday and here you are!
@LuckyGunner2 жыл бұрын
We made it just for you!
@TurdFergusson3182 жыл бұрын
I have a 950 in 25 ACP I carry it all the time in the summer. It’s a great gun to wear with gym shorts or sweatpants. I’m not looking to run towards trouble with that but it certainly enough to get someone off of you.
@ryker41242 ай бұрын
I got a 21A brand new in 1984 and still carry it in my pocket. It's all you need close up.
@brotherbruno1783 Жыл бұрын
I used to have one of the Bobcat models with the stainless finish. Back then I worked in a job that required a uniform that made it effectively impossible to hip carry. For context, I’m 6’4 and pretty chubby; I have larger hands than basically everyone I know, to the point I couldn’t even get a solid 2-finger grip on an LCP. The Bobcat was a perfect size. It was thinner than anything else I had, though the grip was much larger than they actually needed to be. In my case it worked out because it was just chunky enough to feel like you have a good grip, just minus the pinky finger. There is a reason I don’t have it anymore, though. Malfunctions started only after about 50 rounds because of how dirty the feed ramp got. It was wide enough that it widened the top of my pocket for people to see any time I was facing a different direction, and at one point my boss even saw it. For that reason alone I can’t call this a true pocket carry gun. And although it had a sizable grip in the hand, my hands were large enough that I encountered an accidental barrel unlocks while drawing, a potentially disastrous thing if I ever actually needed to use it. Turns out the latch would sometimes work loose from sitting while in my holster and would finally unlatch, or accidentally engage the barrel lock which was already in a weird half-lock position due to the small spacing of the controls. This would happen about once in a hundred draws, definitely worrying enough that I couldn’t trust it. Too bad though - these things scream class to me, almost like the Walther PPK
@maxinelouchis72722 жыл бұрын
The slide on the 3032 is very tight when new but after shooting and practice racking it does become much easier to use. It gradually becomes a nice gun to rack. I think this due to very tight manufacturing tolerances.
@adams29222 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Chris. Always a treat, the classy DA/SA gun reviews.
@jeffreywienhoff6412 Жыл бұрын
I had an Alley Cat and loved it. Super reliable very easy to carry but needed higher performance loads.
@Pheardom2 жыл бұрын
I have a Bobcat 21A covert, I swapped the very pretty wood grips with Beretta rubberized grips to reduce width and increase grip for pulling from a pocket holster. The grip change works but it's a shame because the walnut is so pretty. But anyway, when I received mine the slide was so stiff that no amount of normal field cleaning was going to help. I was very stubborn because I really wanted it to work and I was hearing other people were having the problem as well, so I simple hand racked it over and over and over while watching movies or whatever. I didn't count but I bet it was near 2K before I thought it might actually cycle with a small 22LR for power. It worked and now cycles, but it's a big disappointment for some people, I'm sure it gets returned or sent back to Beretta for that. As to ammo, Federal has that new light weight 22LR Punch, self defense ammo, I think it's only 29g and a flat nose, nickle plated for weather resistance for EDC week after week. Did you get a chance to test that in your Bobcat? I don't have a suppressor for mine and was curious if it was too light to cycle properly then?
@danoneill28462 жыл бұрын
Many Thanks
@seandurns1102 жыл бұрын
My stepmother’s back up gun when she was on patrol in the early 2000s was a Tomcat. She liked it and it seemed to run fine. My big issue w a gun like this is, as you note, the draw stroke.
@hairburger622 жыл бұрын
I have had a Bobcat 21A in .25 caliber which was stole and now have had a Tomcat .32 wide slide! Both awesome built guns! So small & so dangerous if you have no training. I love these guns, but better be withing 35-50 feet of your attacker or target. The tip barrel is also nice if you want to train someone with a single shot! I've never had any issues with any type of ammo rounds!
@colt2206 Жыл бұрын
Yes a very good pocket pistol. At a few feet in .32 acp it’s great for self defense
@jamestamu832 жыл бұрын
That Bobcat 21A jams a lot. A LOT. Plenty of stovepipes and it likes premium ammo due to light strikes on primer. Fun gun to shoot along as you know what to expect.
@crumply59592 жыл бұрын
They should also add an ejector because this gun just uses the pressure of the 22lr to eject the rounds. This makes it ammo picky.
@Daekar32 жыл бұрын
Have always wanted one of these, either of them. As someone who will never be able to carry what apparently is the mainstream CCW choices, a shootable little gun with useful mag capacity is just the ticket.
@BlackcatOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
I have a 950 Jetfire in.25 and love it. It's my "not carrying a gun" gun.
@scooter59402 жыл бұрын
My brother brought down his 1967, Italian-made 950B last weekend. Has only about 100 rounds on it - still has the original box - and not been fired in 50 years. I cleaned and lubed it, and we sent 50 rounds of 25 ACP down range. Never missed a beat! What a cool little gun! When my trigger finger is extended, it sticks out past the barrel!
@ShawnHinck2 жыл бұрын
So timely, I’m literally picking mine up today, the exact same walnut coverts
@Quality_Guru2 жыл бұрын
I have a big complaint - Why are we waiting so long for your next videos? Gotta have more Lucky Gunner Ammo videos! Absolutely love them. I walk away knowing more than when I came in. It would be interesting to see how these pocket semi-auto pistols compare to the LCR revolvers in terms of accuracy and reliability.
@JusticeFreedomDestin2 жыл бұрын
Chris shooting like Agent 47 is thing I need more of. 10/10
@donr4162 жыл бұрын
Another advantage of the tip up barrel is that you never have to decock the hammer on a live round. This is a good safety feature IMO. Nevermind he covered that.
@glenmo12 жыл бұрын
I own a Beretta Jetfire 950 BS 25 ACP I purchased back in the mid-90s.. very reliable in fairly accurate within reasonable distances.. approximately 4 years ago.. I purchased a used in mint condition Beretta21 bobcat..in .22LR .. blued steel wood grips.. manufactured sometime during the 1990s I believe..cci mini mags work but.. the gun really loves Remington yellow jacket and viper conical shape bullets.. absolutely not one jam with those
@ironmikehallowween Жыл бұрын
I have several. I literally think they are about perfect for what their purpose is. They can absolutely change someone’s attitude if forced into that role. But more importantly to me, they are just one of the handiest, most utilitarian, pistols currently manufactured, whether for hiking, knocking around in the woods, working around the farm, handling pest, poisonous snakes, and predators attempting to break into my daughters chicken house at night, and does so without waking up the neighbors or scaring the horses. It would not be good at fighting off a band a heavily armed ninjas, or some of the other outliers, like grizzly bear attacks, that seem to dominate the web. Thanks for the video
@MrDwanehoward2 жыл бұрын
As an old guy I’m going to get a 410 derringer as my aim isn’t as good. I figure a buckshot load to the face or family jewels will stop about anyone and bypass the protective plate issue.
@jasonkeating99582 жыл бұрын
I love the 3032 tomcat it looks awesome With these new upgrades baretta could have gone all out and changed the magazine to a stack and a half mag, especially considering how wide the grip is on this gun, Infact you could probably fit a full double stack mag a have the exact same grip dimensions, And if it had a Milled grip directly onto the frame they could get rid of the grips and it would be thinner still, People will say it's not necessary but I think that with a grip that wide it made for it and probably 12 rounds in a flush mag would be a big upgrade.
@moeynola67472 жыл бұрын
I have the 3032 I brought last year and it's sweeet..I just use it for range fun.
@jfruser2 жыл бұрын
I have owned a 21A since the early 1990s. It is everything you say it is, plus it is a well-made bit of kit. Yes, if I carry something smaller than my J-frame, it is likely to be my KT P-32, but I still keep the 21A around for range fun and to let recoil-sensitive shooters who may be intimidated by a larger gun have something fun to shot. Have not hoped on the .380ACP pocket pistol bandwagon, though I still have .45ACP and .40S&W pocket pistols.
@xSP3CTREx2 жыл бұрын
I have 22 short version of this, the Mynx. It's a neat little piece fun to fire, tiny mag and slide work with break action.
@LuckyGunner2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, those are neat. The Minx is the .22 Short version of the Model 950. The .25 ACP version is the Jetfire. They're actually a bit smaller than the 21A and the 3032 and they're single action only instead of DA/SA.
@GunsmithSid2 жыл бұрын
My first gun was a 950BS M4 Minx with the slightly longer 3.75” barrel instead of the 2.5”. Great little gun. Very accurate (soda cans at 20 yards were toast!), beautiful finish and style. I had a leather speed scabbard holster and carried it when I got my concealed carry in the eighties. It cycled any standard or high velocity cartridge but the CB Caps were manually cycled - but with no extractor it was easier just to pop the barrel open, the empty would fly out and then single load the next round. They wouldn’t let me shoot it at the local range as it could be concealed entirely by my hand and the range officer could not monitor it. Lovely pistol.
@girthcontrol61942 жыл бұрын
I've wanted one of these two for a while now. I have a Beretta 81BB in 32 acp and I absolutely adore that pistol.
@kevinfelton6892 жыл бұрын
12:05 Chris doing his Agent 47 impersonation
@N988582 жыл бұрын
I've got a Tomcat 3032 Stainless... I will have to reacquaint myself with after watching this video! Thanks ';-)
@badgerwiphatprasit49786 ай бұрын
Tried shooting a steel plate from a 100 meters away with the bobcat stock sights and I surprised myself because 5 out of 8 rounds actually hit the target which I did not thought was possible. Might have shitty sights but with enough practice and figuring out the angle you will get used to it. I did not think it was possible with a 2.4 inch barrel but turns out the trajectory was straight asf
@redswift312 жыл бұрын
I have the Tomcat and its literally sitting right next to me right now. Love this little gun and use it as my quick run to the gas station gun.
@troxle1r4 ай бұрын
I carry a Ruger LCR in 327 magnum. The revolver carries 6 rounds, the first 4 are wad cutters and the last 2 are Federal magnum rounds, which kick pretty good. When I feel the recoil of round #5, I know I only have one round left.
@sombra61532 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a couple of .22 Bobcats for over. 30 years. I’d like to have a new one, but the sights are horrible for vision that is aging, even with orange paint on the hair- width front sight. Other then that, I’ve thoroughly enjoyed mine.
@rangersmith46522 жыл бұрын
I bought a Tomcat a few months ago. I won't be carrying it often, but dang, it's a sweet little gun. Sure, the numbers favor a plastic .380 or sub-compact 9mm, but they are nowhere near as cool as an all-metal, walnut-grip Beretta .32 ACP. In my opinion, almost nothing else is that cool. That said, you still have to be choosy about ammo and reload on the low end of the power scale. I did paint my front sight bright orange, but sights are a moot point on these guns.
@robviousobviously57572 жыл бұрын
the bobcat 21A is just plain fun... defensive use.. last resort only.. but just buckets of fun
@glenmo12 жыл бұрын
My 21 bobcat in 22 long rifle. LOVES Remington yellow jackets and viper Conicle shaped bullets ! Not one jam or misfire.. with the Remington yellow jackets and vipers
@tucsonjack39912 жыл бұрын
I like my Tomcat. A good summer carry and/or a backup. As far as ammo, be sure the Muzzle Energy is not greater than 130 ft lbs, per Beretta.
@FelixDKatz-tb7or2 жыл бұрын
I really wished this could have come out a week ago. I just received a .32 Bobcat I bought for my mother in law. Because I had thought the tip up would be a work around weak hands. But that 12lb plus trigger weight and the difficulty of hitting the release make it unsuitable for weak hand shooters. Should have gotten the EZ in .380. Thanks Chris and Lucky Gunner
@naughtystep98562 жыл бұрын
I have the S&W EZ. It’s amazing for arthritic hands too. I’m sure you’ll be able to sell your Bobcat, or trade it in.
@FelixDKatz-tb7or2 жыл бұрын
@@naughtystep9856 I am at least the second owner. And it is still unfired.
@naughtystep98562 жыл бұрын
@@FelixDKatz-tb7or 😎👍🏼
@squeeze511 Жыл бұрын
@8:24 the Bobcat manual recommends using CCI ammo. I've had some success with Aguila ammo matching CCI specs. Seems like slower speeds does it.
@lornenoland80983 ай бұрын
There are OTB covert holsters made to look like a cel phone case or similar. For most any gun, they are so oversized that it’s obvious they aren’t a cel phone case. However, for this little noisey cricket the holster is still small enough to pass for a cellphone case that it’s not noticeable.
@talonsqz4 ай бұрын
Great informative presentation style his seasoned enthusiasm is a pleasure to be shared
@menzerroku47082 жыл бұрын
I love that pistol😀 looks great and easily confirmed easily to carry
@enricomandragona163 Жыл бұрын
Great video Lucky Gunner. Since I now own a Bobcat Inox and reading reviews in magazine's which feature them with wood grips, why doesn't Beretta offer them as an accessory in their website 🤷 that being said can I buy them from you since you changed them to the plastic.
@jimihenedrixson75682 жыл бұрын
Those wood grips look super good!
@VincitOmniaVeritas72 жыл бұрын
I have .22lr version of the PPK/S, Beretta 92 and Colt 1911A1. They are all very fun.
@harryvanhoo72352 жыл бұрын
I had a Beretta Mod 71, a no nonsense .22 single action, semi auto. I put well over 10,000 rounds through it. Worked perfectly. External hammer and I always use and practice one handed shooting. Cocking and de-cocking is simple as is cleaning. Being in Australia this was confiscated in a "buy back". Such a shame. Generally speaking, this was all the gun that was needed, however, my "other gun" was a .357 Mag. Which I also used single handed.
@shahnxaoc7749 Жыл бұрын
I wish more companies released Da/Sa subcompact guns
@TheOne-zm7wd5 ай бұрын
Love my 22LR Bobcat. An excellent conceal carry weapon.
@metroplexchl2 жыл бұрын
I have an old one that I took to a machinist and had it threaded for a silencer. Absolute blast to shoot. I've killed many a rat and mice with it.
@gabrieljohnson54562 жыл бұрын
Walther p22q is a fun one. That’s what I ended up with anyways
@naughtystep98562 жыл бұрын
I found one at a great sale price. Glad you like it. I’ve heard they’re very picky with ammo. What do you use? Edit: Just bought mine, don’t have it yet.
@1nfamyX2 жыл бұрын
Never thought id say this but i wish they had a mainspring heel release 😆
@AdamosDad2 жыл бұрын
I love my little Berretta Tomcats and a Bobcat.
@jammieeubanks92262 жыл бұрын
Great Video! I have both the Bobcat and the Tomcat in Inox. Two of the most enjoyable pocket pistols around to shoot. I have very large hands and those big Beretta grips made the Tomcat my go to for pocket carry until very recently when I discovered the Ruger LCP Max with the 12 round mag. There's a pistol I would love to see you review!
@michigunsanta86802 жыл бұрын
I bought that exact version of the 21a awhile back, it’s a neat fun gun! Can’t wait for my little can to arrive! 👍🏻
@pcb86392 жыл бұрын
Love both my Bobcat and Tomcat. Bobcat with a suppressor is a blast.