Maybe I Was Wrong About Pocket Pistols

[@jimisom6038]

My dad used to say "if you can hit where you're aiming, it doesn't matter what caliber you're using. If you can't hit where you're aiming, well... it doesn't matter what caliber you're using'.

[@redj90144]

YOU HAD A WISE FATHER

[@adamr9720]

That's an awesome saying. Do mind if I use it? :-)

[@ColdHawk]

Hope your stress inoculation training has been amazing. It’s really fucking hard to aim in bad situations when the adrenaline valve is jammed at full open, in bad light, against moving, multiple targets.

[@jag1870]

Your dad's a wise man.

[@adamr9720]

Where I work we have Sheriff’s Deputies working OT and they were having the old .45, .40 & 9mm argument when I repeated Jim’s Dad’s saying. They stopped talking, thought about it, nodded their heads and changed the subject. It made me chuckle.

[@johnrn-pilot3083]

I work in a large trauma center, and see many GSW victims come through our doors. 1 week ago, we had a very large man, over 6' tall and weighing in at around 250-lbs, brought into our trauma center. He was shot in the chest with a .22 caliber pistol. He died in our trauma room. And within a 2 month period, I have seen 4 other victims shot and killed with with a .22 pistol. So, I don't really care what people say about "knock down power" or that small calibers only can penetrate about 8" into the human body. 8" into the chest will cause massive damage to the heart, lungs, or aorta. Small calibers can be very deadly, and I see it all the time. Carry what you want, but rest assured, a small caliber can easily kill a person.

[@oldcop18]

Agree, saw my share of people dropped by the lowly .22

[@davidbelcher1834]

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[@vandoo66]

Yet there are tons of videos of people being shot multiple times with larger calibers that do not back off or drop immediately. They’ll drop and even die eventually but they may have hurt their victim in the interim.

[@karolkupec4118]

Amen. Brother.

[@rtfabian]

vandoo66 Yes, but how many of those do we actually see? Much more common are the young punks trying to rob or carjack someone.

[@oldcop18]

I was a cop for 30 years, went through three on duty shootings and this is one of the few videos about small carry guns that make sense. In retirement I carry a tiny .380 or J Frame for the very reason mentioned here and ignore the keyboard commandos who tell us carrying anything less than, fill in the blank, will not keep you safe. As a 74 y/o retiree my daily travels are pretty tame, my days of chasing dangerous felons are long gone.

[@philliprunge]

I am ex military. I carry a LCP Max most of the time (.380) and have carried a Tomcat .32.

[@muscleandimports]

@@philliprunge I just bought a tomcat and loaded with underwood ammo, I don't feel particularly under-gunned by any means. G26 is always option too, but I definitely wouldn't want to be hit with either

[@Teo317]

@@muscleandimports I carried a Tomcat when I was broke and had no money for bigger pistol. I thought I'm good to go, until a 13 yo kid walked up to my car with a glock with an extended mag. If you live in a city, those Tomcats and Bobcats better be your BUG, and not primary

[@nynthworld4152]

@@philliprunge A friend of mine actually carries a Walther PP. Looks just like the PPK but it's in .32 caliber.

[@jakecole7447]

@@Teo317 well here it goes.. so if you had .45 in your car you wouldve just pulled it out and he ran or what ? no matter what gun you have it wont change anything in that situation in the worst case szenario youre inexperienced itll give you enough confidence to get shot.

[@pmular]

The integrity you show in going back to re-examine your opinions is extremely rare in this world! Thank you for being open to the possibility of being wrong. It shows great maturity and wisdom.

[@reptilesgamers00]

Amen. As more people in todays world listen to argue than to understand. I've found keeping an open mind and ears changed my entire perspective on life. Almost entirely for the better.

[@ProfessorBulletMG]

Peter Mular please let go of his 🥜.

[@BoopSnoot]

Still, you can get a Kahr PM9 which is super lightweight and tiny. 9mm and pocketable can both be done, and most men can handle the added recoil of 9mm from such a small pistol, and 4" barrel gives sufficient velocity.

[@MucaroBoricua]

@@ProfessorBulletMG, your "projection" is showing.

[@dra6o0n]

@@reptilesgamers00 You'd be surprised at how many humans in the world that dislikes 'listening' to anything.

[@alexgrover1456]

This is the most sensible conversation about civilian self defense I have ever seen.

[@casey360360]

It's hard to find these days, sadly.

[@redaethel4619]

I wish I'd heard this a long time ago. I'd always felt the industry was so heavily mil/LE influenced that certain realities for regular joes were simply ignored due to a fundamentally different mission set and experience.

[@richarddilorenzo8188]

You’re right, but sensible doesn’t sell. Sig fired the first shot in the compact handgun capacity war….Despite a lot of data that says self defense encounters go beyond 3 shots, we’ve been led to believe we need upwards of 10 rounds AND an extra magazine to be safe. How have the sales of the 365 been? And the clones that followed? Even manufacturers like Mossberg and Savage, not known for handguns, have entered this lucrative market. I can only wonder what firearm companies will entice us with next..

[@MrArdytube]

Smaller pistols are also more likely to be carried--and therefore more likely to be available

[@sethmorton8539]

Mostly women too men tend to have bigger hands and want that moncho hand cannon feeling

[@sosilverraider7119]

Unless you buy a big pistol and carry it everyday

I have very small hands for a man, snub nose revolvers are basically just revolvers for me

[@maritzanieves8317]

So I have a Taurus pt22 and a phoenix arms hp22a I can stop someone? My Taurus g2c is not concealable im small but I carry a the phoenix hp22a

[@PinakatayArnis1]

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[@ohtehlolz]

I worked on a double homicide recently... 3 shots fired from a 25 ACP. 2 dead guys. All 3 shots hit. I've seen many, many people killed with a 25, 32 and 22.

[@Velma-And-Scooby]

ohtehlolz, I carry a beretta tomcat in a thigh holster between my legs under a dress skirt. My dad and my husband tell me 32 acp is too small of a round. If it is too small than why do so many European police officers use 32 acp.

[@uclajd]

The issue isn't whether they die, it's whether they manage kill you before they expire. That ahole in Miami in 1986 had what, 11 9mm's in him and yet still managed to shoot an FBI agent before he assumed room temp? But yeah, some guys go down with one shot. I know I don't want to be hit in the face with a 32.

[@justacatwalkingonakeyboard4454]

uclajd 12. He only stopped after an agent shot him in the head three times while he was trying to start a car. Adrenalines a hell of a drug

[@Oldbmwr100rs]

People won't believe .25 or .32 work, but they were designed by the same person, John Browning, and he knew what he was doing. .25 is enough to kill, and easily, .32 was a common police round throughout europe for many years. These rounds work. People are idiots who only believe bigger is better, but a self defence pistol is just supposed to stop an assailant, and that these do.

[@MorwenWhyte]

​@@uclajd Indeed, but in that case the criminal returned fire so vehemently because he knew the FBI agents would continue firing at and chasing him until he stopped resisting to the arrest or got killed. Thugs confronted by civilians in the streets prefer to get away with the less possible harm taken, since a (normal) civilian won't start to pursue them.

[@ottoleisering7855]

This is an intelligent and well presented video. Many years ago my wife was in a situation where she was accosted by a stranger in a parking lot. She managed to access her .22 caliber Beretta and the assailant, a man, decided better and ran away. 100 % effectiveness without a shot fired.

[@denoftools]

I've been preaching this for YEARS. I was a CCW instructor in central California and I saw time and time again people with years of experience as LEO or Military trying to train civilians as if they were professionals and that is unrealistic.

[@troytruong8246]

More knowledge is always good. Does not hurt to learn more skills and knowledge in a self defense situation.

[@mikehickman3635]

Ccw instructor in "California" is for cabbage cauliflower and watermelon. Lmfao

[@dsSpitfiremk4]

and what firearms are the best deals at harbor freight? love your channel.

[@BBEEAATTNNGGUU]

The Leo's I've seen look like The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight

[@massmanute]

Claude Speaks a lot of truth here, especially emphasizing that as a civilian your only legitimate goal is to stop the threat, not to kill the threat. If the threat runs off, then as Claude says, that is a success.

[@freddyflintstoned913]

Stopping the threat should be the policemans main objective. It seems they like to kill.

[@herewardthewatchful1014]

Key words "if the threat runs off".

[@abc-wv4in]

@@freddyflintstoned913 It's only one of LE's objectives. LEOs have a duty (it's their job!) to apprehend criminals to protect the public. You and I as civilians don't have that duty. It's a huge difference.

[@yunggolem4687]

@@abc-wv4in Ever hear of a citizen's arrest? Of course it's your duty to apprehend real criminals like robbers, who else is going to do it? Do you carry a cop in your pocket? Real criminals generally don't commit crimes around cops which is why cops are never the real first responder, the potential victim is unless it's a purely property crime like burglary. Cops rarely apprenhend real criminals because most "crimes" are just revenue "generators" for the police state. What percentage of apprehensions in an avg cop's career are real crimes like theft, rape, or murder rather than non-crimes like expired insurance, unlicensed vehicle, possession of a plant, "disturbing the peace", and various forms of contempt of cop? There's very little real crime actually being stopped by cops, their involvement in real crime is limited to writing police reports for insurance companies when things are stolen, drawing chalk outlines around dead bodies, and writing down statements from rape victims. The clearance rate for theft is

[@abc-wv4in]

@@yunggolem4687 No, regular citizens have no legal duty to apprehend criminals. LEOs do. I also don't share your negative opinions of them. Have a good evening.

[@20cameron1]

Wouldn’t be the first time. “ Fast is fine, but accuracy is final. You must learn to be slow in a hurry.” -Wyatt Earp

[@wierdalien1]

Slow is smooth, smooth is fast

[@tomsherwood4650]

I thought that was Wild Bill? I see all kinds of quotes attributed to multiple people all the time.

[@machstem2536]

awesome quote

[@jeffcaudill2050]

You all are missing the point of real small guns. I will take the element of surprise with a NAA mini 5 shot magnum over any thing that you got at close range...

[@chuckschillingvideos]

Earp said many, many things. Some of them are even true.

[@rachellamb5508]

I had a 22 stuck in face during a robbery that was all in took to get me to lay down abd comply. Years later in the same neighborhood I had a 357 and a shotgun pointed at me, the fear of being killed and the inability to stop shaking afterwards were the same for both caliber. And I moved out of that neighborhood.

[@Wastelandman7000]

You are wise. And we're glad you're still with us. Peace.

[@wailnshred]

Sorry that happened to you Rachel.

[@DM-kv9kj]

I live in the UK, so I've never had any kind of gun stuck anywhere or even seen one in my entire life. Only shooting around here was years ago and it was a gangster shooting another gangster. Glad I don't live over there anyway, sounds absolutely horrible and terrifying. No wonder you all want guns.

[@ThatMagaLife]

Glad you left california

[@AstroVanTribe]

I was a Security Forces Marine in the '80's - I carried a 1911 - Always been a "gun guy" and have a nice collection like anyone else - I typically just throw a Colt Mustang II in my front pocket and have been doing this for decades - I've been in close to a dozen situations where having a handgun has stopped a bad situation from getting worse and just kept it from happening just by "brandishing" (Not pointing it at anyone but having it in the hand) - No normal person wants to be shot. I still have operator friends who still think along the lines of larger capacity larger caliber hand guns and I'm always telling them that the civilian world, day-to-day life, does not require all that - Glad to see this video out there....

[@adamlynch9153]

I live near meth addicts taking care of my grandma. Meth addicts are not “regular” people.

[@Cuffsmaster]

"been in close to a dozen situations where having a hand gun has stopped ..." That leaving me thinking one of two things. 1) you need to change where you hang out and maybe make new friends or 2) you are the problem if you are in that many situations and you are not a law enforcement officer or high risk security situation at constant risk,. SO I'd guess that you need an attitude change or location change. . It is possible I am very wrong but it seems unlikely.

[@Cuffsmaster]

@@adamlynch9153 "meth -- taking care of -grandma " I wish you all the luck you need and also how you practice with a firearm to get good with it.

[@AstroVanTribe]

@@Cuffsmaster Well, I'm not going to publicly describe the things I've done nor the people I've worked for that in many cases put me in those situations - I do live in a large city with an ever increasing crime rate and I'm not in the position to just pick up and move somewhere else - I will say that those incidents were happening when I was much younger and putting myself in more dangerous situations - I'm much older and wiser, now.... Never in my life have I created an issue, I've always just walked into it unknowing what was about to unfold or just in the wrong place at the right time

[@Cuffsmaster]

@@AstroVanTribe "I am much olderr and wiser" Good man- - Yeah as a young man we all could of done better. I know I did.

[@ErokCherokee]

I thought this "caliber" argument was settled when David slayed Goliath.

[@BigMac8000]

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice. Nailed it.

[@scubaguy007]

A .22lr in your pocket beats a 10mm at home in your safe. 😉

[@atomic_wait]

@@Kanoshe Are we talking a metric ass pound or an imperial ass pound?

[@Ag3nt0fCha0s]

It was. It will stay settled until we are all carrying laser blasters. You know. Modern tech.

[@danieldravot341]

slay, slew

[@exador6]

The .32 that's in my pocket wins out over the hand-cannon you left at home.

[@davidrobertsemail]

Exactly.

[@cdgonepotatoes4219]

@@cgglider In the end, who wins is the one with the quickest draw and that pours the most lead on the opponent. The pocket gun guy shoots the hand cannon guy before he shoots, their aim as well as focus will be thrown off and his life is already in danger. If a gun is a pleasure to shoot and handle and it's comfortable to wear in most forms of attire (see the term "underwear gun"), then no matter the caliber it's already better than a gun able to to stop a running bear dead in their tracks. Maybe don't go as low as .22 but a .32 (which is usually also much more a reliable caliber) is already a round as good for personal defense as a 9mm.

[@cdgonepotatoes4219]

@@cgglider I don't think many people train themselves shooting at the range, planting a couple rounds in their chest each time. I'm not talking about big calibers somehow being slower 'n' shit, that's videogame speech, just "thing's still a gun, still hurts, still can drop you dead, what matters is whether you're the one that gets to shoot the baddy and not the baddy shooting/cutting/batista bomb/whatever you". If you can't manage comfortably shoot a stronger round then don't give in to the small dick jokes Tactical Joe throws at you at the range and get a smaller caliber. Afraid the thing prints on your clothes? Get a smaller gun. You find it uncomfortable to carry? get a lighter gun. If you get assaulted you're not gonna die if you break the "bullet size threshold" of .380, you're gonna die if you aren't confident with your gun and end up scrambling for it or forgot to bring it entirely and aren't good with words/compliance. Hope with this wording I'm getting trough you.

[@chancedavis6216]

@@cgglider Small handguns allow you to carry a gun when otherwise you cant. That's what the OP was saying.

[@doomermeme9975]

@@cgglider okay boomer.

[@peteanddrake4242]

I was the EMS director for the city of Atlanta, GA from 2013-2016 affiliated with a Level 1 trauma center (where all the gunshot victims go). I can tell you most shooting deaths we see are .22 to .32 caliber and are shot at extremely close range (0-5ft) in the head, neck or chest. You would not believe the lifespan of a cheap, .25 caliber Italian pocket pistol in a bad neighborhood--they live on in the community forever. More sophisticated (wealthier) criminals carry 9mm. These larger firearms are more likely to be used in a robbery or car jacking because the gun needs to be intimidating enough to scare the victim. If the victim is shot with a 9mm, it is far less likely we will see them in the ER because they will die at the scene if shot in the head, neck or torso. But--to the gentleman's point--both a small caliber and a 9mm will end the confrontation if the person is struck with a bullet above the waist center of mass. The only exception I have seen is when someone is charging the victim--but that is a very rare form of attack and not a likely scenario. I defend my own home with .357 because it is common in a home invasion scenario to fire through a door and lethality is paramount with a trapped attacker. On the street--and I've worked on the worst--I have always felt perfectly prepared with a .32ACP. I would like to have a double-stacked compact 9mm, but don't see the need to spend the money. The overwhelming odds are that you will be within 0-5 feet of your target when forced to use your weapon. In that case, a .22, .32, .38.....all will end the encounter if you shoot the attacker above the waist--center of mass. I recommend you spend your money on a smaller caliber and your training time learning to get your weapon out and on target safely.

[@carabinapacifista5627]

Great comment. Living in South America I have heard a lot of stories of robberies ending by the single shot of a .22lr to the head. I strongly believe anyone who knows how to draw a handgun with speed and aim for the head will be able to defend themselves properly in 95% of situations (on the street)

[@professionalbaddass]

You speak factually sir..lived in the hood for a while saw it myself..deaths by 22 were common

[@Treblaine]

I got a question: who's walked into a hospital after being shot in the chest with a .22 and is more or less able to function? So, just in pain and is only worried about infection. I don't see how that could possibly be, now correct my reasoning but if I just try to place a dot on an x-ray image of a person's torso there's nowhere I can put the dot where it won't hit something vital. It doesn't matter the size of the dot. This is only going to be worse if there's more than one "dot" these pistols may be tiny but despite their size they can shoot 8-9 bullets and clearly they're easy to shoot very quickly and accurately.

[@professionalbaddass]

@@Treblaine I guarantee I don't wanna get shot by anything not even a sling shot..you pull any gun on me I'm gonna think twice.what I think they are talking about is the meth crazed guy 22 probably won't stop him short of head shot

[@peteanddrake4242]

@@Treblaine LOL..to your point, 99% of gunshot victims I've dealt with never walked into a hospital. They are carried in. Also to your point, small calibers do most of their damage because they ricochet throughout the body. When a .22 hits bone, or dense tissue, it changes direction and zigs and zags thru the cavity---wreaking havoc.

[@KGBBooks]

I used to carry a full size 17 round 9mm service gun with three spare mags because I got into running firefights with multiple assailants to and from work, every day. Then I moved out of Chicago, and a six round .380 pocket pistol has served just fine.

[@chrisperrien7055]

LOL

[@victorpapillon1487]

Ahahahhaha

[@Useralex995]

😂😂😂😂

[@warren8601]

Chris, I am looking forward to future videos on this subject

[@ferdonandebull]

Yes! I was a copper for decades. I carried five shot .38 in my pocket off duty.. I have one in my pocket right now and I am sitting in my front room drinking coffee. A firearm is a ten foot sword in most cases. A lot of the shooting I have worked were done with pocket pistols. You will have a pocket pistol all the time.. that heavy frame Auto will be in your car when you need it. I have pulled my pocket pistol twice and each time the surprise of producing deadly force stopped my attacker.

[@paulcass3180]

John Browning designed the .25 acp, the .32 acp, and the .380 acp. I can't think of a more ingenious firearms person than him and I imagine he was well aware of the ballistic characteristics of those cartridges and felt good about their potential for ending a threat. Good enough for me.

[@1nfamyX]

Youre oversimplifying it. He designed them before locked breach pistols existed, at the end of the 1800s, & the guns that used them were not pocket or even sub-compact, they were fired out of full size handguns & likely wouldve been cast lead slugs. Every single bit of the circumstances were completely different, from the reason for the design, to the ballistics, to the alternatives, etc.

[@rezlogan4787]

@@1nfamyX Browning at that time was capable of loading .380 more powerfully. The reason he didn’t is that he was replicating a full size black powder service load from the mid1800’s in a small semiauto with smokeless powder. The 1851 Navy stacked casualties in military and law enforcement until 1873 with .36 caliber and had a maximum of 200 foot pounds energy. It was the first successful repeating belt handgun in history, and many carried it long after better guns were available because it still works. The .380 is a ballistic twin of that full size gun in a smaller gun (.355 caliber with 200 foot pounds). Interesting historical tidbit: the lead balls loaded in the 1851 were .380 diameter and got swaged down to .375 during loading. I believe that was why Browning chose the name .380 since old timers of his day would still be buying .380 diameter projectiles, and he wanted to advertise the round’s ballistic replication of that full size service load in a semiauto, kind of like how .357 SIG is named to reference the ballistics of .357 magnum despite different diameter.

[@1nfamyX]

@@rezlogan4787 capable of loading .380 more powerfully but it wouldnt function in the guns he had. The 1911 was his first locked breach handgun design. We still recognize today that .380 & below can be fired with straight blowback while 9mm & above require mechanical lock to achieve a similar reasonable size. As for history, .357 SIG is .355 caliber, more than close enough to use the name, which have always been just names & not strictly exact calibers & loadings. Look at .44 special, its actually .429 caliber.

[@MistahJigglah]

Most people fail to recognize the effectiveness of the boom and flash, let alone that even a .22s tearing into someone from a pocket pistol at close range(where nearly all self defense occurs) will stop most people who aren't on PCP from attacking. I've seen someone take a .25 to the kneecap, it was an accident, but if it hadn't been he'd have gone down like a sack of flour just the same.

[@Wastelandman7000]

From what I understand, modern .25acp factory rounds are loaded to lower velocity to avoid destroying older guns. If you uploaded the round to original specs and use it in a modern gun I suspect it would be considerably more effective.

[@Danogil]

A few years ago I stopped a gentlemen for speeding , when I approached his vehicle he informed me he was a CCW holder as required by state law in my state, finished up the reason for the stop out of curiosity I asked him what he carried. He told me a Walther PPK in 7.65 x 17(.32 ACP) I asked why such a small round. Well he told me that after years in Law Enforcement in both West Germany( Fed Police) and here in OK he like the smaller round, the weapon he carried with the Dept he worked for in OK required 9mm or later before he retired .40S&W and he thought that was over kill. Again I asked why, he said any weapon can stop the aggressive actions of the suspect, but a well placed shot will end the fight, and I can take the eyes out of a fly at 25 meters with my Walther. He was a very interesting person to talk to. Only after the stop did he say he was a LEO.

[@Danogil]

@Bill Smith As a firearms instructor, for the average shooter they are not as accurate as the person I talked about above. They may be hitting flies, but the flies are on another persons target. I have seen 1 or 2 shooters in 30 years of Law Enforcement that are able to shoot half as well as the old guy said he could. It was an interesting stop, the old guy is probably long gone, he was in my town looking at what is left of the place his older brother was at as a POW from WWII. At the time he was around 80. This was before PL 108-277 took affect, so he had a CCW.

[@Danogil]

@@keithclark486 That is where my experience is

[@Danogil]

@@keithclark486 yes and issued a citation, and voided it after the stop, long enough ago that it was a paper citation. nothing like what is in use now by most PD's. Almost everyone has gone to E-Citation.

[@NewDaySon37]

Was he a handsome Englishman faking a german accent while driving a BMW or Aston Martin by any chance? To be fair Walther style blowback guns are very accurate with that fixed barrel.

[@Danogil]

@@NewDaySon37 No Polizei

[@robbabcock_]

When Claude Werner is talking it's smart to be listening!

[@vitaly6312]

I’m fully with this. I was in the army and coming out to the civilian world my thought process was that if I’m going to carry 5+1 mag in the field, why wouldn’t I want at least 2 15 round magazines on me while carrying? 5 years later I notice myself almost never carrying due to size and bulk of my pistol plus the dress code at work. I’m looking to get something absolutely tiny, have 1 magazine in and perhaps another in my bag and in the car, and 2 at home just in case. It makes sense for me to have a pistol on me, the size doesn’t really matter to me.

[@JohnPublic-dk7zd]

We're seniors, and have dropped down to a .25 Beretta Jetfire from the .38 revolvers carried for years...size and weight have everything to do with that decision...yup, .25acp qualifies under rule #1, have a gun...we might bump up to .32acp to split the difference, but gotta find some guns to test the idea...the 'bigger is better' folks make valid arguments, but the 'everyday means everyday' people have a valid point, too...our .45 in the safe does us no good...

[@joshuasutton4043]

I just bought a raven mp25 as a backup gun and anywhere I don’t need to imprint etc I have Glocks xds etc I have everything from. A 22 38s 357mag 40sw and a 45 9mms and 10mm pistol I bought it for the story read they are reliable and fun to plink with seen they sell parts all over for those too .

[@JohnPublic-dk7zd]

@@joshuasutton4043 the gun ON you always better than the favorite you had to leave at home...small calibers can be smaller, it's science...!

[@equalopportunityoffender6732]

I'm a 27 year medical radiographer (most of my career in the emergency room). I've seen people killed by every caliber from .22LR - .357 magnum. It's never a good day when you've been pierced by a bullet. In addition; bullets take some crazy pathways upon entering as well as exiting the body.

[@noisepuppet]

True. It's not a good day even if bullets are whizzing past you! Any gun being fired vaguely in my direction pretty much ruins my day.

[@MidwayShooter]

1% of CCW carriers will use their firearm in a self defense shooting. The FBI stats show 1-2 rounds at 2-3 feet and is over in 2-3 seconds. I’m cool with my J frame , I carry it cause it’s capable and comfortable. Not like the 2 pound gun left at home.

[@LuckyGunner]

I get where you're coming from, but you might want to be careful about relying on "the FBI stats show..." logic. The FBI does not track or make public any stats on private citizen armed encounters.

[@roykiefer7713]

I understand what you’re suggesting, but I’d wager the correct figure is FAR less than one percent. I’m not trying to pick nits, but in an era when there are many who would ban non-law enforcement sidearm carry, I believe it’s wise to keep the facts clear. I mean no offense.

[@MidwayShooter]

Roy Kiefer none taken but less than 1% is almost none lol.

[@Aurora4804]

even as high as 5% is still "essentially none".

[@Cryptonymicus]

Forget the FBI stats? Who else is publishing actual stats based on research?

[@christopherpham11]

This older gentleman is experienced, well read and understand statistical probability. Leveraging his experience + understanding, he’s applying logical thoughts to his approach to firearm training. Seems like the type of person one who’s inexperience with firearms can learn from.

[@nehemiahmarcus308]

When I was growing up in Pennsylvania, everyone had guns. Now that I live in Los Angeles, not everyone has guns and those who do seem to link it to their virility. It's a tool, not a status symbol.

[@BZB2000]

Don’t live in LA. There’s just as good places at much lower prices.

[@tikigodsrule2317]

When your a young man or in a gang the size matters. A good bluff scares your opponent especially when its other stupid young guys bluffing. Their focus is appearing to be an alpha male and getting women not actually using the gun. Of course that does happen with tragic consequences. Young people never think it will happen to them. In LA guns are used as turn signals....

[@mrmann44]

I don't think that's exclusively an L.A. thing. Lived all over the US and have found gun guys to be a lot like gym guys. Although most won't admit it.

[@ankursrivastava5999]

In India it is the same problem. British issued license to their loyal subjects only and after independence, the law remained the same and now only rich & influential can get a licensed weapon apart from criminals. The balance of power for law abiding common citizen is off like anything.

[@williamryan7403]

Born and raised in California. Not everyone has a gun in L.A.? Wrong. Just about everyone packs. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't there. The anti gun California is just a few decades in the making. Brought to you by East Coast politicians and some weak minded Republicans that decided not to go to the mat for Second Amendment rights.

[@John-xo3cv]

Claude Werner just explains that so damn well. He should be writing textbooks on practical defense.

[@sirroxalot]

I carry a NAA .22 mag. It's small, it's utterly reliable, and oddly enough I've never had anyone ask me to shoot them with it.

[@wesump]

I carry naa 22 mag with the larger hand grips so it’s a little more comfortable to fire

[@williamwells8341]

I love mine too!

[@trevorgarrett7602]

Same, w/a large rubber grip it’s great. The Glock says home.

[@theenglishprofessor8411]

Just bought the NAA Pug...looking forward to using it for fun and defense...

[@davethompson3252]

I’ve got one and have one of those folding grips on it. Love it.

[@twoblink]

So far; 100% of my engagement has brandishing and the perp leaving. I hope to go through my entire life never having to pull the trigger on someone.

[@cornydad]

No shot stop is a success

[@josephrbidenjr9508]

Agreed

[@ernestocaamano7818]

Amen

[@allenmitchell8846]

I am at 3 and counting.

[@kftc1980]

dlclendenen What if they don’t have a gun and they aren’t within striking distance, but they clearly are a threat?

[@markhenri1131]

What’s the best gun for personal carry? The one you have with you.

[@wakichunu]

why only one

[@dazdncnfusd6447]

The FBI did a HUGE study on caliber, which made them change their standard carry caliber for FBI agents back to 9mm from .40 S&W. They talked to battlefield surgeons, trauma surgeons, coroners and many more. It was EXTENSIVE. The conclusion they came to was that knockdown power is a myth. The single most deciding factor is shot placement, followed by speed and accuracy of follow up shots. A smaller caliber round, having less recoil will be more comfortable for a lot of shooters, which will reduce anticipation, and cause more accurate first shot placement. Also, the lower recoil will enable most shooters to get back on target faster. For reference, I am a 12 year Marine vet, having done time in the infantry, and in Marine Corps Security Forces, trained in surgical shooting, and shooting under duress. I was a multiple award rifle and pistol expert when I left the service. Excellent video.

[@MrExplorer1965]

Thank GOD ! I have been saying this for YEARS !!! STOP training people like they are going to combat with the S.F and start training them for a street fight and to GET THE HELL OUTTA DODGE..... Thank you Jesus 🙏

[@dinoatlas]

Jesus would be a revolver guy.

[@shirlsteele9609]

Take the long way home.

[@tomswinburn1778]

We're no longer crying, lone voices in the wilderness. This is an articulate informed voice backing the civilian NOT thinking he's Rambo.

[@daveh7720]

This has been my attitude pretty much since I started carrying. My gun is for making a hole so I can escape the threat.

[@DiabolicalButler]

im from dodge and wtf does S.F mean?

[@Riverboat374]

You have the best camera, lighting, and sound I think I've ever seen on a KZbin channel. Really, really well done.

[@leewitte4700]

The willingness and ability to reexamine ones beliefs, is a sign of wisdom and embracing the lifelong learning philosophy. This is my favorite video from Lucky Gunner. I've watched dozens. The point about the mission is spot on! I don't want to have to change my entire wardrobe. It's another way of saying the 32 in your pocket is better than the 10mm in the drawer at home.

[@joshuasutton4043]

I have a mp25 raven some say they junk other say they reliable and accurate I have almost every caliber handgun there is except a 44 mag and 500 mag just wanted a tiny gun to carry in pocket when I don’t won’t the weight of my Glock 36 sometimes pulls down my pants with it lol .

[@mikecouvillion6830]

I have had to defend myself during two attempted car jackings. Both occurred in Florida in broad daylight at a red light. Both times I avoided losing my car or my life by simply pulling out my tiny little .32 Berretta Tomcat. I'm not a big enough guy to carry a hand cannon. I have to keep a low profile with my carry. In both cases, just displaying my gun diffused the situation without me or my assailant suffering injury. They just ran off.

[@gwengreen6497]

I am a widow in my 60's. My right hand ( dominate) has nerve damage and severe arthritis. I carry a Sig 380 with self defence ammo. I've tried my husbands Browning 9mm, the weight and recoil was too much. I'm training on being a very good shot and putting the bullet in the main body areas. This has made me feel much safer.

[@davevabch]

I have spent over a decade training and practicing with a Pocket gun. They are so under rated it is amazing.. They actually have tactical advantages that large guns do not have. They are actually sneaky, deadly little suckers. The internet crap that they are just for "Close and Personal" or Just a "Bug Gun" or not a range gun is BS. They are in fact a range gun. You carry it, get good with it. And if you train and Practice often they are much more capable that you ever imagined. Yes, they have a longer training curve, but once learned, they are a tremendously proficient EDC,

[@jacobcarolan1172]

If I don’t carry my .40 then I carry my 9mm, if I don’t want to carry that 9mm I carry a 22, if I can’t carry a gun I have a benchmade knife. Each one progressively less deadly but all of them are better than nothing and I always have something.

[@gillmccuddy]

Hey a knife is still gonna do it if u gotta, no way would i ever ingage someone with a knife out unless theyre between me and saving my family.. i see that its seriouse decision time, 9 outta 10 is choose run. But like you i still prefer a gun enless not allowed.

[@ghostusmc]

My Mel Pardue is pretty deadly. If you don't train with it , it doesn't matter what you carry.

[@immikeurnot]

A 9mm is in no way "less deadly" than a .40 S&W. Their performance on target is identical. Or do you think a few lb/ft of energy and .046" of diameter is going to make a difference?

[@mythguard6865]

If you ask me you should always carry a knife no matter what. But NEVER primarily for self defense. IMO a knife should always be seen as a tool first.

[@RESNone208]

I’m assuming his 9mm is just smaller than the .40 and that’s why he’s considering it less gun, not because of relative cartridge performance. A 9mm from a shorter barrel will almost always be less effective than a comparable .40 load in a longer barrel, even though 9 is terminally very similar.

[@gregr.9547]

My defense plan is: 1. Try to not put myself in bad situations 2. Implement Run-Fu, if possible 3. Tool-time Several years ago there was a situation where 4 or 5 customers were killed at a local Radio Shack. I’ll never be one of those ppl without having a say. That’s why I carry.

[@keepermovin5906]

I recommend this great French martial art called parkour

[@deanmason5900]

@@keepermovin5906 WHAT?

[@davekinghorn9567]

@@deanmason5900 means run and even leap for it over every possible obstacle that may be in your path.

[@davekinghorn9567]

@@deanmason5900 I actually run very low level parkour mornings. At my age spectacular leaps are out but if I ever have to run for it at least I'll be somewhat practiced.

[@whoami1449]

Runfu is great Until you try to run from someone with a gun in open space

[@rexelliott3860]

I spent 30 years as a LEO, with almost 20 of that total as a detective and later the crime scene investigator. I dealt with lots of shootings. I also spent a large amount of my time assisting the armorer of our department in firearms training. Another little side job was assisting in our "women's firearm course" which was a PR thing done to familiarize the local women with handguns other that hubby saying point and pull. A lot depends on what the person feels comfortable with. I would much rather see someone armed and proficient with a "pocket pistol" than trying to haul a 1911 around and flinch every time it is fired. The small pistols occupy a position where there is a lot of need. Weak hands, old and authentic hands, cannot handle the recoil, nor provide the strength to operate one of the larger weapons. Not everyone is a Tommy Tactical who thinks they have to charge into the middle of any situation. Most people carry a firearm to make someone doing bad things stop and go elsewhere. Someone commented about the Miami Dade/FBI incident. That and the LA bank robbers in full armor are not something that civilians are training for or really worried about. They leave that to Law Enforcement professionals. Good vid!

[@stufields5125]

Looking at the response of the Law Enforcement professionals in Portland, Seattle, St. Louis etc. etc. I feel the need for an armored vehicle with a flame thrower.

[@mikehickman3635]

The cops in LA had to break into a gunshop to commander civilian weapons to stop the armored perps. We train with what cops beg for when shiz really hits the fan! My .338 winner mag dont care about armor n itll shoot 6-700 yes all day long. 😎✌

[@wakichunu]

why not just carry both

[@gtbigdog3507]

I actually worked with a guy that got shot by those LA bank robbers

[@johnpower8356]

You said law enforcement professional, not sure what that is, it’s the least professional job I’ve ever seen, for too many reasons to list, if one of my guys in the machine shop knew so little about his job he wouldn’t make it, watch here on u tube interactions with citizens yelling screaming barking orders, threatening, swearing, please don’t say LE professional it is an oxymoron

[@wes326]

Good content. I'm planning to pocket carry when my CCW permit arrives. Glad to see more models coming to the market.

[@j.robertbragg4015]

I’m a Law Enforcement Officer, and a Long-Time Firearms Trainer, and I Carry a Ruger LCP in my pocket for Off-Duty Use. At no time, do I feel inadequate, or unprepared with my little .380 Auto.

[@spottedsaint5776]

I miss my LCP. I traded it off for an old Mossberg 500. I tried to buy it back from the guy I sold it to and he said no. I currently carry a Bersa Thunder 380cc as my deep concealed carry and it works just fine ,but I still miss my LCP. I'll be looking to get another one soon. Thanks for your service sir!

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

I got a new Ruger LCP ll .380acp for CCW use, back up. It's good but I would opt for a 9mm +P or a 10mm as a main defense pistol.

[@PartranTiger]

I went with the Ruger EC9S, same thing as the LCP just in 9mm. Not for any ammo snobbery it's just I have way more 9mm in the house than 380

[@Snek03]

Wanted to say you have the best firearms channel on youtube. Very rational, very down to earth breakdowns and philosophies. Thanks for that.

[@FirearmsofAmerica]

You Sir are correct! I am glad you made this video. I often hear people making fun of beginner gun owners carrying 22LR, 25 ACP, 380 auto etc... Not cool! Carrying a gun is not just about the gun training, it is also a lot about psychological training and often, it is much easier to get used to handling something that is of lesser firepower. Besides, it does not matter how much firepower you might have, if you are not accurate with it.

[@turnttaco7661]

My uncle was killed by .22, one shot. Ask someone who works in the ER how often people are killed by .22s

[@mamneo2]

More often than .45 ACP, because it's a lot more cheap to shoot .22lr than .45 ACP 👌🏻not because smaller calibers have higher lethality, which they don't.

[@jamesmartian5051]

My Sunday school teacher is a nurse and said some teens where having a little fun “war” with 22s... and one kid got shot in the junk, some people don’t understand that a 22 is a bullet!!

[@scottward7813]

Chris, thank you for running this! Your military friend is exactly right. So many in the gun community are as annoying as wine snobs and jazz aficionados. If you're not carrying a glock 19 with 2 extra mags, a giant knife and a flashlight you're somehow inadequate! Well, that isn't helping anybody...

[@peoplehavetherights]

Curiosity killed the cat...if one can carry a G19 with CCW and does not mind wearing it all the time, even here in blazing hot Arizona, what is "the problem" with it? I probably won't carry three mags, an Al Mar, and a Sure Fire...

[@buckaroobonsi555]

Yes I can not stand those types. Now they are likewise slowly convincing everyone you need a silencer on everything from hunting rifle to competition rifle! I have a son in Syria in the US Army and their M4's are not as heavily kitted out as a lot of these idiot gun influencers online.

[@acedfirefist]

Let me tell you.. I'm the only employee at the shooting range / gun store I work at that is NOT former military or law enforcement. A lot of this rings true to my thinking that is put down by my coworkers. I'm not saying they are wrong.. but asking them to examine why they think they are right? Now theres an idea.

[@Aurora4804]

Too many guys never leave that shit behind. Between guys like them (even though I'm a vet myself) and the "great white hunter" - "if you don't have a 300WinMag Christensen Arms, and if your scope didn't cost twice what your rifle did, you're not a real hunter" types it was by far the worst job I've ever held.

[@acedfirefist]

And that bullet technology is something I frequently adress. When asked (quite frequently) is 380 good enough to carry, I often start with, "well once upon a time, no. A big bullet meant a big hole. BUT (talk about all the good stuff)." A lot of people, most even maybe dont know the difference between a round of Remington umc 115gr 9mm and a 124gr federal hst +p+... so stuff like this is great, because it's our jobs to be educated and to spread that knowledge to those in need. Or mine anyway lol.

[@acedfirefist]

@@Aurora4804 o I love my job, coworkers and customers. With those guys (and I do hate those guys) you just gotta have a real good, "ooooo yeah? Whys that?" Smirk.

[@acedfirefist]

@knine1833 I replied to this below in a different comment. I'm not so youtube savvy, sorry.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

Very true. The 9mm was berated & hated in the 1980s/early 1990s. The .40 & 10mm were going to save everyone, everywhere. 😑. Even the FBI & LAPD went to the .45acp, .40, 10mm pistols. Now as modern designs & improved specs show, the 9mm +P is now Americas sweetheart. ♥️♥️♥️

[@WeaponsSergeant]

20 years Army Special Forces (9 yrs Instructor). 20 years later as a contractor still training weapons and tactics. I carry a .25 in my back pocket like a wallet. If I feel threatened it’s because your within head shot range.

[@circuscase]

"Its a pop gun" he says....Pop gun? Really? I would like to ask this guy in the video where on his body he would like to be shot with a "pop gun." I would not want to get shot with even an 177 air rifle. Fuck that....

[@Ratdaddy752]

.25 auto for life!!!

[@chuckschillingvideos]

I don't care what your background is, if you think that the bad guy is always going to be within head shot range from a mouse gun before he becomes a threat, you are completely deluded.

[@39MercFlathead]

You have an excellent point. But when I was a kid back in the 50's my cop father told me about a local city councilman who bought a .25 for his girlfriend. She eventually got mad at him and shot him point blank with it in the head. The bullet bounced off his skull. My father's point was both a reflection on the city councilman's thick headedness and the .25 ACP. My lower limit is a Smith K frame 2 inch .38 Spl. Although the only time I had to use a weapon for self defense I was carrying a Ruger Blackhawk .41 Mag. Luckily, my soft but firm talk and the size of the hole in the barrel convinced the angry drunk with a knife to go away.

[@bladerunner5810]

@@chuckschillingvideos You underscore the fact that situations calling for personal defense are highly variable.....one size does not fit all situations. BUT....some tools cover a broader range than others.

[@carljensen5730]

I don't get to do too much target practice, but when I do, my focus is on self defense. What I see is virtaully everyone else is playing a scoring game. I recently went with a relative and we were shooting at a "hostage situation" target. They were shooting at ten feet, two handed and I was shooting at thirty feet single handed, because I wanted to simulate something where my body was behind a wall with the least exposure. They had been target shooting ten times more than me in the last five years. They put holes all over the target including two into the hostage. They were shooting at the body. I shot the same target, aiming at the head. My shots were in a cluster the size of a coffee cup, with half into the head and the other half all clustered real tight on the left side of the attacker's head, away from the hostage. When the target came back, they added up the numbers and proclaimed victory, even though the hostage was dead. I didn't even know I was playing a points game. Their focus was on how they could get the most points and my focus was on being able to hit a small target from a greater distance, without killing the hostage. When you go target shooting for self defense, don't play the points game. Focus on what skill you are trying to improve.

[@archangele1]

I live in Florida and it is illegal to open carry here. So, I carry a small pistol. A 1963 vintage Beretta in 7.62 Browning. It is hot here so dressing around the gun is not practical. You must keep your gun concealed so the little Beretta is perfect since it easily fits into a pants pocket. The big thing is that the Beretta may be small, but ask your self this. Would you want to be hit in the face, or even the arse with a 7.62 Browning (.32 ACP). Plenty of deer and other animals have been killed with just a .22lr. The idea with a carry piece is to defuse the situation so you can get away, not to fight a war.

[@dcroach60]

Bond. James Bond had to turn in his Beretta for a Walther PPK short ( 380 ) if im not mistaken- or was it a 9mm? regardless- reminded me of the movie scene THX!

[@gurugoguzhanson]

@@dcroach60 I could be wrong but the old Beretta was 6.35mm and the new Walther PPK was 7.65mm and was so powerful it could shoot through all kinds of stuff according to his boss unlike the weak 6.35mm that Bond liked to carry because of its size. James Bond only got a 9mm much later could be it was Pierce Brosnan and a Walther PPQ. EDIT Dec 27 2018: Just found this "The Guns of James Bond" on KZbin

[@TyrantExterminator1776]

Unfortunately with the Libtards trying to take over the country you have to prepare to fight a war against their Tyrannical lapdog pigs if you don't want to be arrested and go to prison for defending your own life.

[@Pippinm7]

archangele1 I love in Florida too and have been struggling with the heat and carry options. It’s so hot here, practically speaking you need something like you are talking about!

[@freddyflintstoned913]

P3AT is the right solution. Built in Florida.

[@AKAKiddo]

A small frame revolver addresses the factors of gun inaccessibility, gun not ready to be fired, and mechanical malfunction. Insufficient accuracy can be addressed through practice. The small gun you are carrying is infinitely more effective than the large gun you are not carrying.

[@goldwinger5434]

Interesting video. I like it because I agree with it. ;-) I've been carrying for about forty years and have seen many changes in the carry world over that time. Most of those changes came about after Florida passed "the first ever carry permit laws" which weren't the first by any stretch of the imagination. Most carry advocates are wannbe gunfighters and have a Walter Mitty fantasy of being in a Chinese restaurant when the Tong comes in to kill the owner. They fantasize about flipping over a table and trading shots and performing tactical reloads. Consequently they carry a gun with 19 rounds and carry three spare magazines. Let's not forget the tactical knife, flashlight, and first aid kit strapped to their ankles. To hide all of this stuff, they dreas like slobs in cargo pants and an untucked T-shirt accompanied by a backwards ballcap. I don't dress like that. On a different note, I've looked at some of the nearly famous training schools near me and have seen some strange requirement (not all from the same school): > 9mm only > sem-auto only > striker fired only > no manual safeties> no leather holsters > must wear cargo pants > must wear boots I don't wear cargo pants or boots and my carry gun is often a revolver in a leather holster. WTF?

[@jec1ny]

This is one of the best videos you have done so far. I and my 3rd issue Colt detective special are looking forward to your upcoming videos. In the meantime brace yourself for all the self proclaimed gun experts crying heresy. All of which said, I am not a fan of micro caliber guns because in some cases their inability to disable an attacker can make a dangerous situation worse. My edc may not be big, and it only carries six rounds, but at close range six rounds of +P .38 special will (usually) be enough. Edit: Typo

[@rolandomorales6762]

Claude get educated about satititices be between cops and civilians, their by far more civilian's carrying hand gun then their is cops but more deaths are caused by cops then civilians. And many cops are frighten or scared then maybe being a cop is not your line of work.

[@Richard-wz9uh]

I like it! Any gun is better than no gun. It's gotta be within reach when you need it. It's gotta be chambered. You've gotta hit your target. The gun has to keep going bang. I'm excited to see where this series goes! P.S. I shot the M&P 380EZ the other day. Goodness that thing is a honey. It is just big enough and just small enough. It has nearly nonexistent recoil. I even like the beavertail safety!! I would recommend that gun to anyone, even my grandma.

[@LuckyGunner]

It's a great gun. I'll be reviewing it soon.

[@reginamartin6468]

I seen your review it's my little sisters first handgun with that design there on top of the game right now

[@moeshipley4170]

Absolutely. The .22 in my pocket while walking the dog at 2:00 AM is a lot more useful than the Ruger .357 in the nightstand.

[@BobDiaz123]

I tried to find the source of the study that said, 97% of the time when a attacker see a gun, they flee or surrender and no shots are fired. If correct, the size of the gun or the ammo doesn't matter 97% of the time. This brings us down to the 3% of the time where Shots need to be fired. Even the lowly 22 will stop roughly 2 out of 3 of those attacks. Had we chosen 380ACP, we stop roughly 2.5 out of 3 of those attacks. That comes to a difference of 1 out of 200 attacks.

[@johnblaze6269]

I pulled out a baby 25 at 5 guys trying to jump me when I was a kid, saved my butt lol

[@ccsmith2937]

Any gun is better than no gun when the wolves show up.

[@Wyttt95]

Cc Smith even a high point will beat a spork

[@bobjoe5851]

Wyatt T high points perform even if they are ugly my friend

[@Wyttt95]

Bob Joe when did I say they wouldn’t?

[@MrSanteeclaus]

Eventually the wolves will show up

[@ubermac85]

Even throwing a high-point is better than nothing. ;)

[@plumtiger1]

My advice to people always is that you should carry a caliber that you're not afraid (won't flinch) to shoot. You have to be comfortable enough to shoot the weapon in an emergency situation.

[@damage175]

I feel like Yankee Marshall needs to watch this

[@porkfat8109]

" break in contact " exactly, and the best way of saying it. Look you could stop a situation with a screwdriver, but even a pocket 22 can make 3 or 4 holes in a blink of an eye. POP POP POP and the situation changes.

[@captainamericaamerica8090]

CORRECT! JUST THE POP NOISE SENDS ALL RUNNING LIKE A RAT!🐀🐀🐀BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW THE CALIBRE. A HOLE IN YOU ISN'T GOOD

[@mamneo2]

That is not correct. You may end up a conflict with 4 .22lr rounds, as you may end it with 2 .40S&W. The thing is, you are more likely to stop your attacker with better caliber rounds. Still, if you want to carry smaller calibers, it's ok. But carrying an optimal caliber would always be better.

[@davekinghorn9567]

@@mamneo2 Usually these confrontations happen in confined, crowded places. Above 25 Cal I worry about injuring /killing people immediately behind the thug and spewing blood all over everybody. You just want to stun the thug for a few seconds to make your break for it. .25 is plenty for that.

[@h.c.4878]

@@davekinghorn9567 there is no guarantee you are going to stun them. Adrenaline, rage, drugs, etc can make people crazy and able to do crazy things. I want to make sure the target is no longer a threat. I don't want to kill but I don't want to stun either. In the day of modern firearms I don't see the point in carrying anything other than a 9mm for defense against a human. It's got fairly light recoil but more than enough power/rounds to stop most threats and there are plenty of compact models for pocket carry. Just my opinion though

[@davekinghorn9567]

@@h.c.4878 then put 5 rounds in him. He'll stop.

[@tayloralbrecht8362]

Favorite video I’ve ever seen. Wished it was longer. Addicted to this channel

[@kennethworde862]

I'm retired military and this premise is correct, I'm old retired now and carry a double stack 380!

[@rogerd.miller1095]

The combat pistol training industry is going to cry and scream over this. This is a long over due conversation. Too much pistol training is designed for an apocalyptic scenario, not likely self defense scenarios. The successful outcome of a self defense scenario is not likely to come down to how fast you can reload another magazine. It is time for some clear thinking on the subject of self defense.

[@alexoelkers2292]

Yeah Ive watched literally hundreds of video taped incidents were shots were fired, I can think of one, maybe two videos were a tactical reload was acually nessassary.

[@BobC59]

Amen Roger.

[@tomswinburn1778]

As he pointed out there will always be those situations in which a larger calibre or more rounds would have created a better outcome for the citizen. But as it's a very small percentage the reality that one WILL carry with a more concealable and lower capacity handgun more than overcomes that objection. Have there been times a dozen hits in the torso failed to put down or stop an aggressor? Certainly. But the reality is that's a tiny percentage. That .32 or .22 or .380 is a far better weapon than the fists of an untrained 90 # weakling. Or elderly person. Slight framed woman. An encounter you walk away from is a win, regardless the tool used to affect it.

[@BobC59]

@@tomswinburn1778 Bingo! And you noted one of the biggest things people here rarely address: Its the non-warrior type (like most of us in a peaceful society, not just the weak or frail) who need a concealed firearm, and many if not the majority need just enough to make someone leave them alone. But indeed the lighter, frailer of us not only need protection but something they can manage - be it recoil, carrying around, or racking a slide. And by the way, how many bad guys consider what caliber a person has discharged in their direction? They hear !BANG! coming from their intended victim. Only a heavily drug-crazed maniac needs to be stopped by tons of power and lead, but in that case, just about anyone is screwed unless they make an incapacitating shot.

[@peoplehavetherights]

Let's just hope and pray that things have not changed for the worse since you commented.

[@bigro4444]

I’m 6ft 5in and over 300lbs. I power lift and am a huge guy by most people’s comparison. I played pro football for a few years and so on. When I got into guns a lot of people pushed the “ya need a .45acp” nonsense. Now it has its place and frankly it’s a good round. But I focused on shot placement, training, and availability. So I my first pistol was a Glock 17 G3. Which for most is big. But for me it was a good midsized gun in my hand. Trained a ton and really learned as much as I could. Then I got a Glock 19 G4. That’s been my carry pistol for years now. It’s a sub compact for me. It really is small in my hand. I then of course got a Beretta 92A1 as my true full size pistol that I shoot at the range as well, I do plan on getting the compact version next. But the point here is get what works for you and your style of shooting and use. I’m big, so what I call small is big to others. But it works for me. Too many times there’s the macho talk of you need a hand cannon and it needs to be this or that. When it comes to self defense you should focus on logic and end use. Above all comfort in knowing it’s reliable and won’t bug you while walking all day or feel like it’s poking out. Im glad I went with 9mm.

[@ColonizerChan]

ROBERTO OROZCO >6’5” >300 pounds >actual power lifter >one punch man picture Mate, I think you already open carry some guns

[@fproszek]

Man, if i stretched a rubberband at your face, you'd flinch, if i pointed a .22 at your big tow , you'd beg me not to shoot it. Everyone likes to go home with all their toes, even 6'4" men. Oh, sorry, 6'5" men.

[@srcastic8764]

I was taught early on that the purpose of a hand gun is to get someone to stop doing whatever they are doing. This guy is correct. If someone is attacking you, all you want is for them to stop so you can escape or so they’ll run off to avoid being injured more. I hadn’t thought of it, but most any caliber will accomplish that. They don’t know what caliber they’re being shot with, just that they’re being shot. They’ll stop just out of self preservation. Smart thinking. 🤔

[@jamesvolo7948]

"Break in contact" is an important concept. You need only enough gun to keep them away. We're not going to war!

[@michaelshapiro1543]

Not with CCW, anyway.

[@mamneo2]

I prefer to have enough firepower at my hands just in case. If you prefer to carry small calibers it's ok though, but it's also ok to carry regular sized calibers or even those a bit more big.

[@danielholtxxl4936]

I wonder what you're thinking now, in August 2020, about "We're not going to war". It looks like we are already in the beginnings of a civil war that will likely explode on Nov 4th.

[@danielholtxxl4936]

RonJohn63 Is that what I said? How could I be so foolish?

[@danielholtxxl4936]

RonJohn63 You were never in the military, were you?

[@Douglas-Ops]

Great insight with this issue. This channel always is the grown up in the room. Any gun I carry is a “get off me” gun. I’m not standing toe to toe with a mall full of terrorists. Really looking forward to the new series. Thanks for posting 👍🏼

[@tomswinburn1778]

Not sporting the newest camouflage clothing? Not carrying a custom made five hundred dollar knife? Not of the opinion that a .45 is a mouse gun? Well you ain't no REAL self defence advocate. (sarcasm). I laugh at the CLOWNS that think they're Rambo. And there are a BUNCH of them.

[@johncrone3612]

Seriously one of the best gun channels on KZbin. This guy is far from the macho slang and he ADMITS when he thinks he’s wrong. That scores big in my book. I’ve tried to live my life being confident in what I know but being willing to admit I’m wrong AND realizing that you can learn things from the most unsuspecting people.

[@mountainhobo]

What a refreshing amount in common sense in one video.

[@tenhundredkills]

So in other words...train with what you have! Something is better than nothing.

[@lukasrosa9974]

Steven yup. But making a 10 second video with out explaining why, people are gonna flip in the comments But yes, you’re right

[@rallyfan555]

Unfortunately most classes are organized around full size handguns. A class dedicated to pocket pistols & snub nose revolvers would be an opportunity for a trainer.

[@jameswallis6093]

I knew my German 88millimeter anti-tank gun wasn't obsolete,It's always one shot,everyone's killed!

[@alex1701waller]

Being a grey man, "mr nobody" with a pocket pistol is MORE tactical than being a storm trooper with a larger gun. Nothing to see here!

[@lotsofstuff3860]

Absolutely! How many times have you seen that guy who is intentionally conspicuous in his “concealed carrying” just to intimidate or (he thinks) impress someone with his giant gun? Also, he’s usually one of those guys who’s scared of his own shadow and puts waaaaaay too much thought into self protection.

[@Wilberbeest]

Fantastic video! I think you’ll find that program compliance is inversely proportionate to how large your ccw is. And the P365/LCR/LCP in my holster or pocket is infinitely more useful than the 1911/44mag/50AE in my safe when the situation calls for armed response away from home.

[@scootkh]

Protected myself with .22 more often than any other caliber....quiet and VERY lethal...every time.

[@bmx7596]

Of the 4 reasons listed why civilians die in violent encounters, 2 of them can be incredibly reduced by carrying a snub revolver instead.

[@galamonkey]

Small pocket pistols are great for their intended use. Your average citizen would be well served with a small pocket 380 or 38 revolver and a basic training class.

[@blatherskite9601]

I believe that most contacts are terminated merely by drawing the weapon. So, in those cases, calibre isn't an issue, nor is mag capacity.

[@anderslarsen4100]

One of the most intelligent gun channels on KZbin. I enjoy your videos.

[@2009statechamps1]

I was given a S&W 642 .38 spcl. by my brother when I graduated college. I still carry if often especially during hot summer days. I was showing it to a friend of mine and he said, "Man you can even hit that wall over there with that." I asked him to go stand against the wall so we could find out. He then agreed that it will do just fine!

[@iamfodder1017]

I bought and carry the Ruger LCP Max. I train for instinctive aim (both eyes open) head shots only at 7 yards and in. Anything further is traditional aim, center of mass. You can train yourself using various methods to do this. I have found that aiming/pointing the first joint of my trigger finger while inside the trigger guard at the target puts the pistol in the perfect position every time. Wearing a light jacket just standing there putting gas in my car, in line at a 7/11, wherever, I assure you that I can draw from my pocket and fire half a magazine in a 6 in circle before you can break leather on a concealed draw.

[@B1Springfield]

Smith and Wesson M&P 22 Compact is a blast to shoot and reliable at that. That is my wife’s carry weapon, and she loves it.

[@drewbles22]

Such a great gun, and kinda sexy too

[@rezdog187]

In law enforcement we move and attack towards the problem as a civilian you should be defending away. Most states cover your defense until the point you become the aggressor. Shot placement is not caliber specific!

[@kayok07]

Just wondering but I do remember the owner of thunder ranch explaining most officers that get shot are advancing and need to take cover and engage and out man the target. The advancing on a position is usally left to the military.

[@rezdog187]

@@kayok07 metaphor silly

[@fiveowaf454]

I believe that as law enforcement the fact you are going up against people who intend to resist you and know you are armed, is different from a civilian CWP user who has the element of surprise and less reason for the bad guy to stay around. Pulling a gun at close quarters with the element of surprise is very different from having to confront someone where you have given them notice you are coming and are a police officer. The other big difference is that LEO's etc. get to carry their large handguns in belt holsters, shoulder rigs and so forth and so can carry larger handguns, when you have to keep your gun concealed to a greater extent, you pretty soon find that unless you have a comfortable carrying pocket pistol, you'll pretty soon be living proof of how useful the 45 you left at home is, because once the novelty wears off, you pretty soon ge tired of the everyday practicalities of large, heavy handguns, so unless you are in some particular ever present state of danger you will stop carrying.

[@thomasmcdaniel5551]

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[@born2early]

I've never found myself in the position of defending mine or anyone else's life, not since Vietnam, but as a former combat veteran, I would find it hard to just break contact and run the other way. I speak from experience, so please don't misunderstand me. I'm not a know-it-all, just someone who's actually been shot at and hit twice. I also carry a Ruger LCP, and feel very comfortable with it.

[@ArikGST]

In my "How To EDC" Video I presented the notion that your edc, which for many people includings a firearm, should absolutely have your style of dress and your comfort in mind, and that you should choose your edc to work well with your habits, instead of forming new habits around your edc. Program compliance is the most important part of edcing, and if you have to drastically change your habits or your style of clothing, it`s more likely that you`ll just leave your knife, flashlight or firearm at home, because it`s too much of a hassle. If you carry Keltec P-32, that`s still drastically better than the Glock 19 that you left at home because it didn`t fit your favorite jeans.

[@jamesbekurs4683]

Glad to hear someone say it! I’ve said for a good while now that my “pocket pistol” is strictly for me to break contact. If the situation requires reengagement then I’ll visit my vehicle and return to the party.

[@magnuspym]

Howabout "return to your vehicle and drive the hell out of there?"??

[@jamesbekurs4683]

magnus pym keys words are “if the situation requires reengagement”. Otherwise absolutely, break contact and shag.

[@grahamtait2174]

I've gotten into this argument before with some older guys at gun stores. At the end of the day you are still sending lead into people or "poking holes" as the video said. My plan is to stop the attack, not necessarily put the attacker in the ground.

[@wewlad8697]

The thing is that putting them in the ground is the only foolproof 100% sure way to stop an attack.

[@tomcatt1824]

@@wewlad8697 and they don't get a lawyer and sue you ..🐒..

[@jonathank7394]

There is no room for morals in an attack or a fight for your life. Ive heard people say that they actually carry less lethal ammo cause they dont want that on their conscience. Do you think the bad guy has a cinscience about attacking you?

[@OspreyKnight]

then carry a rifle with you all the time, because I can show you plenty of stories where 9mm and 45 just aren't enough. At the same time there are plenty of stories of .22 lr taking down moose in a single shot. Hell, the Colt Woodsman, a 22 pistol was advertised as a moose killer. i.pinimg.com/originals/d1/e7/bb/d1e7bbb03a22b2d4e81874d6b04a9949.jpg www.ammoland.com/2014/11/what-22-rifle-did-bella-twin-use-to-kill-a-world-record-grizzly-in-1953/ would I carry a .22 to put down a moose? fuck no. When I go into the woods I carry a .40sw with a mix of hollow points and FMJ. That said I carry a .32 ACP daily because I know 2 things. The likelihood of me being attacked is negligible. The likelihood of a motivated attacker willing to fight someone with any gun is even lower. And I say that as a gay man in the most conservative state in the country. I used to carry a full sized XD in .40 with an extra magazine, then I realized I wasn't carrying every day because it was too bulky. My ideal gun is still a thin profile 40, but my 32 fits nicely in my pocket and frankly it's all I need most of the time. I still carry my 40, but only when the threat is higher.

[@raymondwilliamblack]

the only way to stop an armed attacker is to put them down rather than they put you or a member of your family down, you did not invite the attack but it is up to you to end it PERMANENTLY.

[@zacharytomes5202]

Gotta love Ruger LCPs

[@twitchysmith8914]

Someone told me a long time ago that I would end up carrying my smallest pistol the most...it's true, I carry my LCP more than any other handgun. It is so easy to carry I am without excuse as to why I don't have it with me.

[@LadyLibra8791]

My favorite is lcp2 ❤️

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

I got a $300.00 Ruger LCP ll Talo Ed from Budsgunshop.com about 4mo ago. A; the pistol is a %*+= to field strip without scuffs or marks to the polymer frame 👎🏻. B, I noticed my .380acp would not lock open after the last fired shot. It fired the factory loads but the LCP ll acted odd at times. C, the small pistol does not lend itself to cycle-feeding. Careful choices must be made to get top ballistics & proper feed-cycle. The gun had Cerakote Elite & a Buds lifetime warranty.

[@zacharytomes5202]

@@DavidLLambertmobile A: I'll give ya that, mouse guns are a pain in the ass to keep in "mint" condition B: LCPs do not lock back on an empty magazine C: With any gun, its all about the loads you're shooting, and I agree it can be a big hassle once you drop down to small snappy guns, they require a lot of "dialing in" to be more than a fun little range gun

[@mdrinvest08]

Yeah, I recently bought an EC 9s earlier this year at $238 out the door was pretty good buy and baby shoots great for a low cost small piece...

[@2000ohio]

I've carried a Bersa Thunder Plus for years now. Fifteen .380 rounds in the magazine and one in the chamber. Good medium size gun for the price and shoots great!

[@cdgonepotatoes4219]

Don't have access to your rifle? Sidearm. Don't have access to your sidearm? Pocket backup. It's always better to have something compared to nothing and my comfort wearing shorts in the heat of summer shouldn't be impaired by my gun just like how I give up on the firepower of a rifle to comfortably walk around undisturbed.

[@buckwylde7965]

I wonder if someone was pointing a 25 ACP pistol at you if you would consider that person not serious about self defense.

[@nealkonneker6084]

I noticed "gun was too small" was NOT one of the reasons on your 'why armed citizens lose' list. Thank you for a great video.

[@SwitchbackGuitars]

I’ve never been sorry that I’ve clicked on a Lucky Gunner video.

[@bsmithhammer]

Aww...no confirmation bias?

[@SwitchbackGuitars]

Bruce Smithhammer Huh?

[@Questionable_Talent]

@@SwitchbackGuitars i think he is implying a "until now" on your comment.

[@SwitchbackGuitars]

Lost oh...well no. Wisdom from an expert. Critical thinking. And nary a neck beard or tribal tattoo or Glock 19 anywhere in sight. Win. (Not that there’s anything wrong with any of those things...)

[@BM-wc6bt]

When I was a shooting instructor and range officer for concealed handgun courses, I always went off a saying I heard before but I don’t remember where from. “It doesn’t matter if your carry a .22lr or a .45ACP, as long as you carry, you’re a step ahead.” There’s too much of this macho “big dick” competition of “my caliber is better than yours”. If you carry a gun in whatever caliber, educated and trained well with that gun, you’re are almost guaranteed to come out better than someone who is not. Because you have a defensive weapon while those not carrying do not, and I don’t know about you but I’ll talk all kinds of crap about you carrying .22lr but I damn sure don’t want to be on the receiving end of that muzzle. And I think anyone who talks down on any caliber wouldn’t be willing to get shoot with it, which says if you’re slinging lead, doesn’t matter the size as long as you’re sending it down range, you’re good. Also with all of that being said, I have seen many elderly, women and smaller persons shoot far more proficient and accurately with a smaller gun and caliber....hitting your target is more important than caliber size. You might carry a Desert Eagle in .50AE, but if you can’t hit anything with it, might as well be throwing rocks....however if you can pin hole all 10 of your .22lr or .25ACP rounds in about an inch to 3 inch groups, you’ll do some major damage to anyone. Plain and simple, if you chose to carry, carry what YOU feel comfortable with because as long as you carry consistently, that is what truly matters. Don’t matter how many rounds, what caliber or what size the gun is....because if you’re comfortable carrying, you’ll carry more often and thus increase your likelihood of having your firearm when you need it most.

[@dingfeldersmurfalot4560]

I find the occasional bit of common sense an unexpected and refreshing surprise. Thank you for helping out!

[@VS-ff4ez]

I have had extensive firearms training for over 20 years due to my profession. I now have nerve damage in my hands and back and can't carry my G23 daily anymore. My 380 is light enough, and the recoil easy enough for me to manage, that I can still shoot it accurately. This allows me to still carry daily and still be able to defend myself and my family. I train with it once every two weeks with the gear and ammo I use every day. Train with whatever you decide to carry. You will not rise to the occasion, but rather fall to your training.

[@ronsmith1785]

Good friend of mine met an armed intruder in his living room on night. 3 rounds of 38 special center mass; bad guy died before he hit the floor.

[@alldirty1370]

Yeah he shot a guy 3 times with a 38 special double action so fast that he flopped dead instantly. OK

[@BobC59]

Great story, but no one "dies before they hit the floor". One might argue that if an intruder's brains were blown out, but even then . . .

[@kylebradley3]

To those who doubt this story, I was there that night. All three shots missed and the burglar, an 82 year old man with dementia, had a massive heart attack/stroke and died almost instantly.

[@alexoelkers2292]

Well .38 special was one of the most popular law enforcement rounds for many years, it's got a lot more power than a pocket .32, 22 or even a .380.

[@arnoldmyers2302]

Stupid! 38 special is a gun for women. I real man carries a 45 colt semiautomatic.

[@frotoe9289]

Claude sounds like an engineer--very practical and aiming to solve the problem at hand, rather than simply wanting to play with nifty toys or look cool or keep up with the Jones. It's impossible to prove or disprove, but I doubt there is any self defense encounter that has happened in history where someone had a G42 and died but who would have lived if they had a G43. Now... when you get down to the likes of a .25... yeah, maybe not so true. But personally, I just like shaving the few ounces off and improving the recoil of the pocket gun by doing a .380 over a 9mm. And hey, a .380 bullet has the same diameter as a 9mm. Someone in the comments said we just needed to look at the Lucky Gunner ballistics tests to see how 9mm is absolutely superior. Well... ok. Compare the Hornady XTP and Critical Duty rounds from each caliber. All 4 pass the FBI test, each expand about the same, and each sure looks likely to do what you are asking of them. You tell me, would you be really unhappy if forced to carry any of these? Kinda hard to tell which is which. prntscr.com/l17jbh (if this gets thru KZbin's safety filters).

[@charleshills8540]

As someone new to the subject my outlook is to shoot your best shot with your best gun. If it is a 22 caliber then carry that. Nobody will stand there and tell you to take your best shot facing a 22.

[@popsmccartney435]

Great video, I teach conceal carry classes and most of my students plan to carry the smaller 380"s

[@wes326]

Just took a CCW class and surprisingly the instructor did not talk about what gun to carry. They wanted everyone to bring something which held ten shots and a hard holster with belt. I think most people brought guns they shot well but were unlikely to carry. They did not recommend pocket carry.

[@mac11380]

Most training was done by grandfathers and fathers. Also, people laugh at a .25 ,yet it makes a bigger hole and goes deeper than a ice pick

[@sisleymichael]

The guest you had was spot on. Smart man. Give me a J-frame and a speed strip, 38spl, and I am probably going to do OK. I carry one all the time. I shoot it all the time so I can be accurate, deploy it quickly, and reload it well. There are times I carry a bigger gun, but not as often.

[@Heisrisin3]

I've never heard of an attack on an armed citizen ended up that person actually using 18 rounds to defend himself.

[@thuss5162]

Unfortunate that you probaly never will the media dosent want to show good guys with guns of any type

[@jackieeastom8758]

I carry 8 rounds of.380.shot placement and control is key

[@alexgottmituns7049]

Only 18?

[@davidknighton7478]

I guess you've never been caught in the middle of a pack of cyot

[@davidknighton7478]

I hate little keys on the phone. I was going to say coyotes, got caught in a pack of 12 they did not run away.

[@GunCollector007]

Every time this video pops up I just watch it again because it’s so true