Lucy Bella chats with Lia Hatz 🎙 Getting called out & dealing with criticism on English with Lucy

Lucy and I met a couple of years ago at a party in Kings Cross hosted by KZbin Space London and she's been a great friend ever since. In this conversation, we talk about life as online creators and touch on the obstacles like dealing with trolls and being publicly shamed. Lucy shares what it was like to get called out online and how she's dealt with criticism on her channel English with Lucy, which has over 6 million subscribers! @lucy @EnglishwithLucy
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[@EnglishwithLucy]

AAAAAH THAT JINGLE IS AWESOME! Thank you so much for having me on your podcast Lia it was so much fun! Can't wait to listen to more episodes! xxx

[@Neo-Reloaded]

What do you think about LinguanguaMarina? She is growing tremendously recently.

[@seandesmond5560]

Loved the chat with Lia, love your farm vlogs with Will, Diego and Alfonso lovely Lucy!!! ❤

[@JesusLovesYouPerfectly]

hey Lucy, i just want you to know i think you're a wonderful person and you do a great job teaching people. i believe that instead of gossiping about someone, a person should just go directly to that person and ask them directly instead of talking behind their back. you know? it's like the saying goes " if you have something to say, say it to their face ". Also, when it comes to comments here on KZbin, i think one thing people have to keep in mind is that: the person they are watching is equally as much of a human being with feelings as the person is who's writing the comment so, like the old saying goes: if you have nothing nice to say, then it's best to say nothing at all. i think if you're going to leave a comment, it needs to be something positive that will uplift and encourage the person who uploaded the video, as well as other people who may read that comment instead of tearing them down. i believe it takes a much bigger person to write a nice, positive comment than it does to write a mean, hateful one. not to mention, there's already enough hatred in the world, that comes all too easy. instead, we should try to reverse that downward spiral by, if we must write a comment, leaving comments that actually help people and brighten up their day. to sum things up, i would just say this: hatred requires no thought; whereas kindness takes effort so, let's put forth that effort to be kind because it's always worthwhile.

[@treasure_zone....]

Hi Lucy 💓

[@johnnyshiver5059]

Lovely Lucy your honesty matches your beauty and personality your beautiful inside and out. What an absolutely amazing honest interview. You didn’t deliberate at all. Did you see there. A very big word before your teaching I didn’t use big words. Now it’s my hobby collecting words like. You are pulchritudinous Lucy. I love your English lessons 💕

[@jdsrne22]

The easiest 42 minute listening I’ve had in a podcast. I love this

[@akshaybodakhe3255]

Yesss

[@adventuresinlaurenland]

I am a native English speaker and I love watching Lucy's videos 😂

[@ml-qw6qz]

Please help me with my English 😊

[@chrisk5651]

Same! Although I speak American English so it is more interesting. She also has had comparisons of some of the different types of English.

[@CurtisMontague]

Lia, you should be so proud of your first chat. It is amazing. Great content and Lucy is a legend! Keep at it please!

[@user-ws4py5np2f]

Human that recognises his/her weakness, is the strongest of all! It takes lots of guts to admit the others's right and to say it openly!Lucy, my respects! All the best and this made you a really teacher that teaches dignity and integrity and this is priceless!!

[@seandesmond5560]

Loved this chat with Lucy Lia!!! ❤ You are wonderful wonderful and talented!!! ❤

[@cfoj8089]

You're a natural interviewer, Lia! And it's coming from a journalist ;)

[@liahatz]

Haha wow thanks 😂

[@dvvna]

People who critizes you doesn't matter as long as there's a lot of people who love and support you.

[@thecutedoll111]

Supporting a scammer?

[@Brooksie603]

That was great. 👍 I agree that Twitter is just filled with so many hateful people. I swear people go in there just to find people to troll and fight with. Cancel culture is out of control. Like, get a hobby that doesn’t involve insulting people all the time. It costs nothing to hold your tongue and be kind.

[@judetha6176]

I really like Lucy's videos, appreciate her for the huge efforts that she put to make everything clear for her viewers. She is the best ever. ❤️❤️

[@tiagogomes1079]

20:00 I understand the tough position of that teachers, but the personality and sense of humour it's what makes us to want see the vids of @EnglishwithLucy.

[@cityhickstephanie8725]

Love this Lia! You are a great interviewer. 🤩

[@madanmohan27]

Aww such a lovely conversation. Some great insights coming out of that. Thanks to Lucy for mentioning your channel. I subscribed it right away after listening to the podcast and I'm already excited for upcoming conversations. I don't know why but I feel proud on Lucy, I'm just feeling fulfilled after knowing how she tackled all those mixed opinions being shot towards her. I've been watching her videos for a long time and I know she had no intention of making someone feel less or inferior in any way. 8+ billion people, Trillions of thoughts; they'll think what one can't even imagine. I don't wanna comment on that controversy, if that's what you will call it. But I'm just happy that Lucy came out stronger due to it. It's my habit to watch English with Lucy everyday. The best thing that makes me feel flabbergasted every single time; is here high level of energy that she passes on to her audience. I prefer it over watching streaming platforms. 😅 Owh by the way I watched the latest season of "Line of Duty" and have no clue what happened in previous seasons. But it was quite great. Lots of accent variations from UK. I don't know where I'm taking my train of thoughts. To sum up, I just wanna say that I'm grateful to Lia for bringing this video and best of luck for your future endeavours. (Owh gosh I can't stop talking. 😅) ✌️☮️🙂

[@Beautifulworld578]

Criticism changes our thoughts , we can correct our mistakes and we can improve ourselves and take a lesson!

[@genetech3228]

Dear Lucy your linguistics and communicative english expression is appreciable .. There's lucid and elaborative expression..

[@DutchyBrit]

Oh no, my Twitter Profile Pic is a dog... and I'm a Dutch blond female English teacher in Germany... Better change it now! Lovely podcast ladies!

[@Zaza-yt7fe]

Bonjour Lia & Lucy! Thank you very much for the little chat. I have been working from home for about 25 years now (as a freelance translator from English into French) and I was especially interested in Lucy’s views about professional loneliness and having few everyday contacts. Interfering with few people in real life makes it difficult to deal with negative feedback, especially because (some) people are so brutal online, but also because people like us who work on their own tend to lose the ability to interact with peers. We have to deal with that and work on ourselves 😊. Now Lucy, I have been following you for quite a long time and I clearly remember why you were criticized and bullied last year. Well, let me put it that way: I have been following you because your English classes match the education standards I expect from a language teacher. You teach British RP and as a learner, that is what I am interested in, not because I am a racist, a snobbish person or anything, but because I think, as a learner, that modern RP/vocabulary/phraseology are what best correspond to my learning needs and can help me accommodate various situations. I live in Provence (France) and have a strong southern accent. If I had to teach my own language, I would try to convey and teach a more neutral accent. I am not ashamed about how I sound, about my roots or our (beautiful and wonderful) peculiarities, but I think learners need a “neutral” approach to be able to deal with any kind of linguistic situations and to make themselves understood. So, I did not quite understand the point of your detractors, although I understand (and appreciate!) that everyone is free to teach his/her linguistic specificities and variants. I am very keen on listening to podcasts and vlogs about accents, regions and communities, and I really think that linguistic diversity is a most valuable resource that should be maintained and fostered, because we more than ever need to stick to our roots. But I also believe that, if you address English as a foreign language learners, you should not be blamed by your peers for pointing out that some expressions or ways of speaking “are regionalisms”, “do not sound professional”, “do not sound smart”, etc. This is how we learn and this is what we need to learn. It is not about judging people and/or categorizing their intellect or origins. It is about giving us some clues about language registers. I personally never felt you were condescending nor judgmental in your classes. I hope you will stay true to yourself and that you will never become consensual. Thank you very much for the classes and the PDFs. They are always very clear and well structured. Hi Lia! Sorry for the “long conversation” with Lucy. I am happy to e-meet you. You have a new follower now 😊

[@mosesadewole9495]

Keep forging ahead Lucy. You're blessing lives. We love you especially when you make funny jokes while still passing on the knowledge. 🌹

[@mulusew3613]

Lucy my former instructor, really I feel happy listening your vital teaching video !

[@teknekon]

Love the chat! Love Lucy! Great fun. Thanks for sharing Lia! L&C 👍♥️😘🇬🇧

[@onehundredmillionstars1276]

Interesting chat ladies, thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences. Yes most definitely focus on the good guys and positivity. We are indeed the majority. I had a terrible experience with an online bully/stalker, when I had a public profile (hence my profile pic now) I feel like I can enjoy my social media experience with my new private existence. It just goes to show haters attack youtubers and the general joe bloggs too. Keep up the hard work. I enjoy both your channels and I love mmm English too another great channel with the Australian teacher.

[@InstanceIdeaWithRaji]

Can anyone be my friend to learn English

[@bpxblink]

I could listen to Lucy for hoursss! Thank u Lia, for letting Lucy share her thoughts on your channel, we really enjoyed it!

[@MariaFrancaSerrau]

That was the most fascinating, enjoyable and positive conversation I have listened so far. Thank you both Lia and Lucy!

[@tomtalk3713]

Two huge muses. An absolutely legit source of inspiration for content creators.

[@javiervalverde628]

Love the intro song. Thoroughly entertained already. 😃

[@brothergusty]

Now, I am happy to subscribe also Lia's KZbin channel. And I think I can learn a lot from her as well. Thank you so much Lia for doing great work and helping other people from around the world to learn and use English for their life and future. Proud of you both, Lucy and Lia. I wish I could talk directly with Lucy and Lia someday.

[@mariannereuter]

I've been following you both for a while and it was nice to hear you chat with each other. Thank you for letting us have a glimpse behind the scenes. I like your attitude towards trolls and haters. Actually they are the ones to feel sorry for. How deep must they've fallen to fill their time with so much negativity. You are quite the opposite - it´s always a joy to listen to you. Keep up the good work! :)

[@guillerminarivero1285]

I was able to understand the whole conversation thanks to Lucy 💗 she's an amazing teacher 💗🥰xx

[@pile333]

Lucy looks nice in yellow.

[@SSL_SSL]

Wow, two raging beauties facing off !!! Who won? I did !!!

[@liahatz]

haha!!

[@EnglishwithLucy]

Why are your subscribers so charming Lia! :'D I've always said that your community is soooo lovely.

[@leezmendy5837]

I adore this chat, Lucy you are great! Thanks Lia for hosting Lucy at podcast. Greetings from The Gambia.

[@jamesmcdowell1050]

Good chat, Lia and Lucy! You are both lovely people and are very entertaining. In today’s world, anyone who can do that regularly and also elicit a chuckle or laugh has done something really worthwhile. Keep up the good work!

[@rkbelajar2774]

Seeing Lucy and Lia smile makes me smile too.. 😊😊😊

[@brothergusty]

One Thing for Lucy and Lia : " KEEP ON DOING THE BEST FOR OTHER PEOPLE " . I REALLY IN LOVE WITH BRITISH ENGLISH. I WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT ENGLISH BRITISH from both of you. Thank you so much Lucy and Lia. See you.

[@brothergusty]

I always love to learn from Lucy. She is for me a best teacher. I learn a lot from her about English. And because of her I know British English. And until now I am still learning and learning from Lucy. Even Lucy always send me emails about learning English. I like watching Lucy's videos : English with Lucy. I learn a lot from her. I don't care about those people who critizes Lucy's works.For me, Lucy has been doing great, useful and important things for others especially the SECOND ENGLISH LEARNERS or non native English speakers like me. She is a great and best teacher. I will always learn from Lucy. Lucy, KEEP ON DOING THE BEST FOR ENGLISH LEARNERS WITH YOU WORKS. WE LOVE LUCY.

[@JesusLovesYouPerfectly]

hey Lia, i think this chat video went really well. for me, it's great listening practice because i want to improve my British accent speaking so i can transition from an American accent to a British one. keep up the great work Lia :-)

[@AhmedIbrahim-lr3pp]

I did not see a teacher like Lucy, she is a great, amassing, happy and beautiful teacher, I learn allot from Lucy and changes my life and my family life. Many thanks Luuuuuuuucy.

[@johnnyshiver5059]

Lucy I love your chat and your honesty matches your beauty and you and lia are just so amazing

[@GustitisLaw]

You both are great. I’d enjoy being friends with either one of you, or both. Great talk!

[@ashp5597]

Hi Leah this was really amazing. I loved the chat with Lucy and the jingle. I can’t wait to hear more chats.

[@joycelinejohn8600]

It was a great interview and an absorbing conversation. Thank you for sharing your experience and valuable insights. The educational videos on KZbin are helpful, thank you very much Lucy.

[@india_learning_school]

It's really an amazing conversation between you and my favorite Brit English teacher Lucy ma'am... Thanks so much...

[@marcoantoniomarqueslopes2067]

Lucy, thank you ever so much for your incredible lessons! You know, I've been teaching English for over 40 years and I still have a lot to learn! And to tell you the truth, you've been my greatest teacher! Besides, I feel as if we'd known each other for ages! In fact, I hope to meet you one day! Send my best regards to your mum and dad, your brother, and to Will, of course. My wife is sending you her love! God bless!

[@bhoginisangyasinghbasnet9780]

Thank you so much Lia. Lovely to see you both. A great conversation!

[@meemasenglishlab7067]

@17.26 OMG Lucy, I did that just today again! I posted screenshots of a guy being vulgar on to his FB page. I name & shame now. Previously I simply humoured & would say 'Oh, I'm quite surprised you're not embarrassed to send that pic, it is rather on the small size 🙈". Mostly males from India that were that way inclined with me. By the way a great chat to watch ladies 💖. Even I occasionally have my fix of "English with Lucy " despite not needing English lessons! Best wishes xx

[@khanhlinhnguyen6416]

this was really amazing, thanks a lot!!! I hope to see more episodes

[@JusNaturalDazzles]

Always proud to be with such an encyclopaedic English teacher like you who excels all criticism ❤️👍

[@asmita3665]

I really love podcasts especially when they're in the form of video. Thanks Lia, loved it. Looking forward for the upcoming ones

[@barnabaskomta9792]

My dear Lucy, I have been watching and hearing your incredibly lovely British accent. You are my lovely English teacher please go ahead do so, no worries about critiques and know that we love you.

[@lilian12972]

I love listening to podcasts to improve my listening skill. Thanks a lot, English with Lucy (my most favourite educational channel) and also this episode. Will definitely check on other videos in this channel (Lia). 😍💕

[@traceymetta4488]

I could listen to Lucy for hours, I love the way she speaks💕

[@angelarasmussen1800]

It's really not a reflection of either of you when someone else behaves badly. I love both of your channels! Much gratitude for your work 🙏💖

[@englishwithsam1568]

I luved listening to both of you. Sending loads of luv! ❤

[@saidoumha9359]

Thank you so much for this amazing chat, I really enjoyed it, remember Lucy if you have a 20 % who hates you just forget about them and move on because they don't have the potential you have, they make excuses like because you are beautiful, white or things like that, please don't listen to them, just think about the people who love you, about you Lia i think we just discovered a new channel, I think i will watch other videos ❤️❤️❤️

[@abarijitbasak]

Criticism will be there...everywhere! But the point is that how to look upon them. Whether we can think positively or not in such situations! Positive Acceptance of criticism from the people can be quite valuable as well as of great help! Above all, we should concentrate on self-criticism and self-esteem (till that time of positive thinking). Everybody has to undergo one's own struggle! Eventually that makes us quite experienced and stronger in our day to day life. Quite inspirational and motivational chat between Lucy and Lia! Hope to see such chatting in near future on various aspects...and also to catch both of you very soon! Thanks a ton...with lots of love! ❤️❤️❤️

[@mequanintdemeke2021]

My marvelous queens who melt the heart of their online students!!!

[@elaineturcotte1043]

😄I just listened to this entire talk again, because you had Ach sing your "Chats" jingle at the end of your "January 2022 walk and talk". I could barely hear what he was singing at the end, so I clicked on this to hear the jingle as you sing it. Then once again I listened to, and totally enjoyed, your entire conversation! You're both so engaging and talented. You are simply a joy to listen to. It reminds me of the old expression, 'I'd pay to listen to them read the phone book*!" (🤓*a directory of names, addresses and phone numbers).

[@mariamsozashvili242]

Dear Lucy, I suppose you should try to ignore the acrimonious comments of 'killjoys". You are absolutely amazing teacher .No doubt ,you do deserve the platform. You give off so much positive energy that excites millions of people. Your videos are definitely worth seeing.

[@Rachel-rs7jn]

I could listen to the two of you talk all day. Seriously, like read me a grocery list. I'm on board.

[@MsTrain69]

Loved it! You are both so lovely inside and out! ♥️

[@samialqasmee6123]

Actually both of you are amazing I really like the way you had your simple conversation .By the way, for me it's the first time I have seeing you here and I like your way ...thank you for this great conversation

[@stuartt455]

Very interesting to listen to and chats with Hatz is a genius title Lia 😄.

[@danighiwet2980]

I'm glad to see you Lucy. She has very strong accent I love Lucy!!!!!!

[@michaelmullard4292]

Love it! Such great chatter between you two!

[@liahatz]

Glad his royal highness approves!

[@raljourdijerdi7047]

Great chat ladies, I have started watching Lucy’s videos since the beginning of this year, i started with the very first video and continued until i have just 11 videos to watch on the channel, your channel is really beneficial and cool. People’s opinions have stopped me to do what i love for so long, i know i’m good but there is that fear of what would people say or think of me, but now i’m gonna start to do what i love and what i’m sure that i will be successful at. Again thank you for this great talk wish you all the best ladies.

[@BobsCreativeDays]

Love this type of video. Really interesting to hear two KZbin creators from different fields discussing their journeys on this platform.

[@sabanaheed]

Lucy, you are ao awesome!! you make learning English succh fun. Bless you!!

[@peppedem2052]

Lucy, I am really learning a lot from your English lessons..thank you.

[@queenofspades85]

This was very enjoyable, I didn't even know Lucy but she seems amazing. Thanks for this.

[@woolclogs]

Great podcast, Lia. I love this new direction. Can’t wait for the next one!

[@gordonwallin2368]

Love you both!! Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.

[@angielyr274]

Interesting and surprising to say the least that you get hate messages from those who teach in person; maybe I get it, a little..., but not really. I teach in person, I'm not a native speaker, and I don't use social networking sites, but I love your videos; they're funny witty, clever, and significantly helpful, so thanks for doing them, for the help, and from being you.

[@olegk.6687]

Ladies, you both are adorable!!!)) I'm absolutely fascinated by your gorgeous British English!

[@lin-kaihuang3620]

both of you are amazing

[@nehuel.]

Hey Lia! I absolutely loved this podcast. Can't wait to listen the following one. I wish you the very best on this new project! Saludos desde Argentina 🇦🇷

[@barnabaskomta9792]

She's been a great teacher and lovely teacher often she is ...

[@yulduztursunboyeva2761]

I love the Initial music 🎼🎼🎼. Chats chats chats with Lia Hatz🤩🤩🤩🤩

[@donniebrooks21]

Loved it and so interesting. Can’t wait for the next one

[@kknwaaixlvii7345]

Thank you for providing us with brilliant content. Keep up the good work, Lia

[@missbarbara2648]

Awesome interview! Yes, to be KZbinr is hard in one hand. I started my channel recently, so already I understand a lot of things 😅 But at the same time it's really important to share information with people, especially if you really like this. Thanks for this great video ❤️

[@patriciamuller2016]

Love it. Thank you so much.😍😍😍 How could anyone criticise Lucy? She is awesome and I do enjoy her videos so so much.😍😍😍

[@Adam_mohammed_]

Amazing Lucy! Thanks for providing this conversation.

[@liahatz]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@RahasiaMatematika]

My most favorite teacher is here 😘❤️❤️ i am also so happy knowing this channel... lia, your new subscriber is here *Sorry for bad english, I'm not a native ✌🏻

[@catherineavakian5833]

Fun! Love the chats 😁

[@zemfiramustafazade9348]

Dear Lucy. You are capable, you are strong, you are wonderful. Believe it. But you will never be good enough for some people. Don't worry, those are not your people. Love you.

[@Lolathebluesmartie]

Can't wait!

[@liahatz]

Thanks Elle!!

[@user-sn6rv6iq9u]

I really like this interview. It's pretty interesting. Thank you ❤

[@dr.westwood]

Thank you for sharing.

[@futraveller5498]

That pink jumper looks very good on you Lia.. you are great Lia, big fan love for you and Joel

[@ml-qw6qz]

Lucy your skin is so beautiful, do you have any skin care products recommendation? Thank you.

[@sandeshlama4069]

Always loving lucy’s work ❤️👌

[@stephanied.k.3589]

Enjoyed the chat and the subject matter discussed.I prefer to listen-watch podcast on YT. YT is #1 for me ...for now. I'm relatively late to YT but have logged alot of hours since retiring 2 years ago. I personally follow a diverse (racial, ethnic, age, gender, etc) group of channels with a slight U.K. 😂 bias but YT's algorithms are brutal in thier racial and age bias. It is something that I often have to consciously work against. I do think social media platforms are becoming more aware of this phenomenon. Many times you can see the same corporate, government and political bodies starting to manipulate the system and just so much trashy, damaging money grabbing click bait from individual creators. I hate that the term "cancel culture" is being used to squash real critique and accountability has much as I dislike "counter culture" itself.

[@am_32p]

Nice, I enjoyed the conversation

[@cristianedefariahenrique1815]

I didn't know that I'm able to pick up almost of the Interview. More video about it. We are uncrediable talented and charming. Greetings from Germany😀😘

[@barborasolanska3997]

This is the best collab!

[@acrathinavel5666]

Incredible Lucy! Awesome!

[@saimegalapusparaj9953]

Sending you both ❤ from India

[@blondee84]

2 of my faves together. ❤ it

[@liahatz]

Aww thanks Cassi!!xx

[@kaushiknaveen257]

Love it ❤, it's amazing podcast...

[@hayatuahmad2214]

I download almost all of your video on KZbin and I make use of it in other to improve my vocabulary and speaking as well. I appreciate the PDF file that you send after the video thank you so much Locy