The CHEAPEST 2020 iMac is the best Mac you probably shouldn't buy

[@oofingberg]

I don't get why people are angry at apple for not changing the design of there products if it ain't broke dont fix it

[@Riko_KP]

Something I would personally do with the design is to drop the huge bezels and trim the chin. Otherwise the design is pretty timeless.

[@pargo9869]

I like that apple stick to same design for years it’s simple and I like it.

[@WizzRacing]

@@Riko_KP About the only thing it needs. An edge to edge display. As there is no reason to have a bezel today...that and ship with a full KB with Num pad....

[@Kyohan137]

Changing the basic design is what did in Volvo the 240 was boxy but it was a good car that lasted.

[@caleblastname6969]

@@Riko_KP Personally, I like the chin, but the bezels can go

[@jessicawilson8240]

Thank you for making a point of reviewing the lowest spec!!! As a much more budget conscious tech junkie, Im forever frustrated by the fact that no one every reviews the lower end of anything.

[@richy2258]

You might get a good score on the Apple Refurbished site. At least on Macs. Not mobile devices. Their stock changes daily/throughout the day, so sometimes you need good timing to get a deal. But I would absolutely stick to the most recent product releases -- so the previous generation at the oldest.

[@jessicawilson8240]

Brian Moyson didn’t say I was currently in the market for anything. Just that the lower spec/lower end of the price spectrum is so often neglected by reviewers in favour of the best of the best (and most expensive) options.

[@richy2258]

Jessica Wilson you mentioned interest in the lower end of the spectrum/good deals. That will apply whenever you want to buy something Apple. I didn’t mention anything about when to purchase, or anything current. The Apple refurb option is a good way to go past, present, and future. So it’s a helpful thing to know if you ever plan on buying a computer from Apple at any point for the rest of your life.

[@jessicawilson8240]

Brian Moyson I already own a brand new MacBook Air. I didn’t ask for buying advice and I know about Apple refurbs.

[@roamer77]

You said it! Most of the other channels review the expensive models so those don’t cater to budget conscious Mac beginners like myself!

[@RyanYewell]

Thank you for confirming the RAM door slot is still there. Very much appreciated!

[@AH-bf4md]

I am still working on a late 2012 iMac. Best Computer I ever bought! I upgraded the RAM to the max and it still runs perfectly

[@lastofusclips5291]

is it still good in 2022?

[@AH-bf4md]

@@lastofusclips5291 it just needed more RAM. Downside: it doesn’t get any software updates anymore

[@lastofusclips5291]

@@AH-bf4md thx for the update. looking for some older imacs that can still be used today

[@AH-bf4md]

@@lastofusclips5291 i would recommend trying the Mac out beforehand the resolution isn’t top notch anymore This is something to consider But if u buy one install a ssd

[@r_27P]

Why fix what isn’t broken? The design was ahead of its time and still looks awesome!

[@lancer1993]

Until a few months ago I had a 2010 MBP I got used on eBay and to the casual observer it looked much newer than it was.

[@r_27P]

Craig Best I still use my 2009 13 inches Macbook pro. I upgraded the hard drive to a SSD and the memory as well. Still own a 2010 21” iMac with all its accessories, with a little upgrade on memory and hard drive still an impressive workable computer 😀

[@gamingislife3332]

I disagree tbh.

[@r_27P]

Gaming islife that’s ok

[@pargo9869]

I like the apple design it’s unique.

[@noodlesyaboi]

As an Apple 'Budget' Buyer™ I really appreciate this video.

[@edcgadgets-de]

I can’t state this enough, I love this design. I have a 2017 i7 , 580 8GB, 40GB ram. I bought another one, ripped the parts out, bought an 5K driver board and use it as second display. Now I have two identical 5K machines on the desk. Love it!

[@emanuelmurillo377]

Tbh you should make a video about that imac to display process.

[@edcgadgets-de]

Emanuel Murillo I considered it but there is a perfect German one. I speak German as well, so i did not find the need for another video. But if you have questions, just ask!

[@gamingislife3332]

I personally dont like the design but that doesnt matter to me. I will be getting an older imac.

[@emanuelmurillo377]

@@edcgadgets-de yeah but a ton of people dont speack german haha for now i just speak english and spanish haha send me the link!

[@edcgadgets-de]

Emanuel Murillo kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqu3h5hslruardk

[@officialhwakok94]

How many imac do you need? Luke Miani: Yes.

[@taylordarion3477]

Jeff Nhk How many imac do you need? Luke: why not? Or Luke: everytime

[@mrcyborg9216]

Jeff Nhk Bork Bork Bork bark bark

[@davidlarson2534]

I have two. A 2012 that is finally having issues and a 2007 that need 24 capacitors replaced. I learned it is next to impossible to replace them - a very thick pc board. Yes, I still have the box and packing materials. Anybody want it? I wish I could afford a new one.

[@ledekou1983]

@@davidlarson2534 what kind of issues do you have on your 2012er? asking for a friend...

[@richardmeredith69]

Lots 😄

[@keithtarrier4558]

Dude... I am a decades long graphic designer... the thick bezel is a plus. It depends where you iMac is in your room/office or such. What area it is being used in with regards to lighting, natural light, sunlight, windows etc. I like natural light, so have mine against a window/sliding doors on the balcony that get good light, but not overwhelming/ As well I have an extra monitor. If the bezel is to thin... your own 'human' eyeballs cant see the colors correctly near the edge (if behind the iMac is brighter or different colors... books... lights, windows.... whatever... ) when using photoshop etc in almost full screen mode. SO people who don't do A LOT of design and art, color correction etc... the current bezel is great. it helps A LOT. I really enjoy your channel etc... but all you 'bezel is to thick' dudes... you need to take a step back and see the real world. Certainly are with you on the packaging and traveling with them etc. It is A1!! But yes... only 256 storage SSD... crazy. should be 1TB.That will cost apples a few dollars. Webcam... well.. yeah... better is good, my parents old. LOL.. Overall it is good. Has the 'apple tax' but the Apple OS and switching,g/copying, integration with iPhone, Ipad etc is WAY more than worth it, Apple.. Tim Cook... you can really afford to have minimus 512 or 1 TB storage.. 16GB memory. Make them the ultimate bang for the buck!

[@DB-lr6kl]

Are you getting a nano screen?

[@spaceagesnacks]

Very good I just bought one yesterday

[@roguewavecreative]

Luke, I wanted to thank you for actually reviewing a realistic review in the sense of I have finally had my eyes opened to the reality that many of these reviewers are just pumping up their numbers vs giving an honest review. The low end imac will be MORE than enough for almost everyone. In almost every review they order a 10 core and 16 gb of video ram. Good for them burnmost people will not and can not. The 1799 given the clock speeds is more than enough the 2299 model is way more than enough. That is a great machine for the price point.

[@podboq2]

soooo sick of hearing about bezels - i never see mine because they're dark and i'm watching the bright content on display. sure, more display in the same footprint due to elimination of the bezels would be nice - but aesthetically, i don't have a problem with the bezel.

[@smoothie1000]

One of the best review. Everyone covers mid and high end but not the base. Good job!

[@PeterEmery]

A community group I'm with bought a 21.5-in base model iMac in late 2015 (although it's actually the 2013 specification model). The group (prior to Covid 19 shutdowns) met two days per week & 49 weeks per year. When not in use, that iMac is stored in its original box. It's getting a bit tatty now but is still usable.

[@PeterEmery]

Update: in Sept 2020 the 21.5-in iMac was stolen in a break-in. COVID regulations at the time meant the venue was closed to outsiders such as our group, so as the IT "specialist" I had the clone and Time Machine backups at home. We needed a new computer, the insurance payout was new-for-old, so we upgraded to the very same spec of 27-in iMac that Luke mentions in this video. It's been really quite good, almost four years have elapsed since the robbery. In a couple of days the RAM will be upgraded from 8 GB to 24 GB.

[@crazyAlexander23]

"new iMac out dated in 1 year" me on my 27" iMac 2013 still in use under heavy load exporting 8K from Substance designer all i really want is thunder bolt 3 on my mac well and try out the apple new silica ^^

[@opinionator3884]

Currently on my Mid-2010 21.5". It is a daily driver. These computers will do pretty much anything you want to do for a long time.

[@RWL2012]

@Bobby Brady why did you have to replace the battery in your iPad mini 4...?

[@mayukhbejoy8571]

0:50 watching a iMac unboxing 1 millionth time:Yeahhhhhh baby

[@307skylake7]

Luke traveling with an iMac pro must be expensive lol

[@mayukhbejoy8571]

Lol

[@shinyramen]

Mkbhd be like

[@ireallydontknowifiamhonest]

Hey intel graphics, sorry to see you leaving the Macs.

[@edcgadgets-de]

I do it regularly as well. By car, I just throw the big box in the boot.

[@307skylake7]

EDC Gadgets Oh nice, I throw a 80” tv in my car’s engine.

[@branscombe_]

I been Windows guy since 1995, and just bought and iMac because I been using an iPhone for a few years. WOW the display is sharp af, the colours and great. I moved everything into iCloud from one drive, and it's just all seamless. Since I rarely play any games on my Windows PC anymore , it made sense for documents and recording. WOW!

[@rml695]

I’ve always felt that the extra money for the Mac pays for itself in experience. As someone with vision loss, who has been using the Mac for nearly 20 years, back when I was in high school, my eMac was the very first computer to come with full screen magnification out of the box. At that time, Windows required third party software to get that functionality. It wasn’t until Windows 7 that Microsoft caught up.

[@Hard_7_Iron]

Best Buy is clearing out all of these iMac’s this weekend. I bought one for $600 off. Added an additional 16GB ($50) and mounted an external 1TB drive. Honestly, I haven’t touched the M1’s since. There is something about the iMac’s 5k design that make them great. And for less than $1200 NEW, a no brainer for me. Apple’s new M1’s are great… but the iMac’s are more of a “complete” feel.

[@duchenedesignsolutions7036]

I love the room where you do your filming. More impressive than an iMac 5k screen with huge bezels.

[@weeraanmelden]

Thank you for testing the baseline. All the reviews are for the i9 and the expensive screen. I went for the 27 midrange with 512 GB Needed a new Mac , current iMac is from 2010 and run Windows for work. Your review helped a lot

[@WhittyPics]

The hinge broke on my mid 2013 27" iMac and it appears they had an issue with them and extended the warranty to 5 years. I just got barely under that when mine broke. They secured the hinge with cheap plastic washers that break. I hope the new ones are better. Apple fixed it free and broke the display when they took it apart so they replaced my display free too. So I have a 6 year old iMac with a 1 year old display. I don't know if I will get one of these new intel ones or wait for the next gen. That 27" is damn heavy to travel with

[@jonathanfeinstein5723]

You travel with a iMac 27” i think you should buy a MacBook and a second Monitor but if you need a iMac and you don’t care than buy this one but if you do care about that stuff than just wait for the new new one that will probably come in a year.

[@bramlaurens7412]

Why would you travel with an iMac?? Buy a MacBook

[@shadowsun5704]

If I had to travel every single day I would but I only have to take it somewhere once a month. I live in a rural area and the internet is a slow drip. I take it to the library that has fiber optic internet to unload data, update apps or system software. When the internet gets treated like the basic utility it is that would be great.

[@mike969696]

Travel?!

[@JesPulido]

At my most recent video-editing job, we were still using the original 5K Retina iMac. I think the iMacs are underrated. They're great for editing content. More than enough for the average person, and reasonably adequate for a lot of content creators and editors. Especially when you max out the RAM, diy instead of buying Apple's.

[@roguewavecreative]

omg.... you nailed it. absolutely nailed it. The problem on tubeyou is these people that, good for them are making money on this platform buy these tricked out machins and honestly unless you are doing 8k raw or something that 2299 machine as it is with upgraded mem size from micron or amazon is a great deal and will do whatever you want. I own a grphic design / branding biz and you do not need these tricked out machines. It is not necessary. In fact with the specs of the 1799 model (again with upgraded ram) you are more than covered.

[@roguewavecreative]

_m _d_ yes, with this caveat. You should go on amazon and get at least 32gb memory for I think 130 us? It really is so much faster than it used to be. The good part is you have 14 days to return it. I think you would be ok

[@toby2636]

The design is still impossibly sexy.

[@Zalvi]

RIGHT?!?!!!

[@thejose24]

I don't need this iMac. But the way you took the time to review it, makes me want to buy one. Good job man.

[@PaulCrouse]

Thanks, Luke. My 2013 iMac just bit the dust and I need to get a new one. Having watched a bunch of videos about Macs on KZbin for research, I like yours the best. Your presentation skills are very good and I feel like I can trust what you say (which is definitely not always the case on KZbin). Keep up the good work!

[@stevensmith5626]

I have been building PCs for almost 40 years, have owned multiple laptops and desktops, run Windows, Unix (yes not just Linux) and other OS’s. Mainframes, minis and PCs galore. And my favorite is my iMac. I love the design and the ability to run OSX, Windows 10 and Linux all on the same machine at the same time. Great job Apple!

[@adamortiz6901]

So would you say buying the base tier 27” w/ 16GB upgrade is a good move for amateur GoPro editor? Performance is good, more than enough or not enough? Simple answers please.

[@anarchohelenism]

What you said about convenience is why I decided to completely switch to all Apple products a few years back. For the things that I need a computer for, building a gaming PC or a hackintosh is just such a hassle and I do not have the time to learn how to assemble it or get it to work. I just want something that I can do my artwork on and go.

[@KanuniATL]

Don't let the title fool you. If you are coming from a 2015 or older imac even this base model is a huge upgrade. Best bet is the $2299 model. Apple surprisingly included the i7 processor. In recent years they offered two tier processors like i5 and i7 or i5 and i9. This year they have i5, i7 and i9.. I agree on this being the last intel and thick bezel 27'' imac but we will see how long is gonna take Apple silicon to outperform this intel and AMD specs. Great job on getting this imac sooner than the others Luke, cheers!

[@smbu]

It's definitely a nice upgrade compared to the 2019 models. On the 2019 upper tier 27" model you got a 6 core (no hyper-threading) i5 CPU and had to pay an extra $400 to upgrade to the 8 core/16 thread i9 CPU. Now the lower and mid tier models both have 6 core/12 thread CPUs and the upper tier model includes the 8 core/16 thread already saving you the $400 upgrade cost that would have cost you last year to get the 8/16 CPU.

[@Jug]

I love the look of the older iMacs i wish they made an updated version with M1 or something

[@HungTruong-li7si]

I bought 3 weeks ago with only 1500$ (inc tax). It's even cheaper than Studio Display or iMac 24" 8 core GPU. I only spend 70$ more for adding 16GB memory. I happy with it. That's all.

[@wayytiredd5992]

Hi. Where do u purchase your imac?

[@debbiebrown5909]

This design is still sleek and beautiful. I am not the kind of person to constantly upgrade. I tend to keep my electronics in good working order until they become slow or cannot be updated etc... I had the 1gen iPhone until the 6gen came out! Same with the bigger tech, I have a late 2011 MacBook Pro 13" that works "Ok", but i decided it was time to invest in the new iMac because of the promotion i went in. Just ordered today the 27" 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor with Turbo Boost up to 4.8GHz 512GB Storage Retina 5K Display (middle option) and the only one upgrade i did was the 1TB ssd Storage. Came to $2,079.00 plus free AirPods (w/ Education Discount). CANNOT WAIT!

[@pedromontoya2825]

Amazing video , the way u explain it is amazing! Other videos all they talk about is about geekbench and numbers wich is totally useless, for real world use. Thanks

[@joseabraham777]

I must confess something... I was planning on buying a 27 inch iMac, and when I see the new models I rushed to buy the past one, I prefer the SSD drives BUT I need the Fusion Drive for using windows too

[@possamei]

Can't you just partition your ssd? Or use an external drive?

[@joseabraham777]

possamei ah least here in Mexico they raised the price too much (aprox 300 usd), also, the base model uses 256 GB for SSD, is ok but not for a boot camp drive, Windows mandatory needs to be installed on a internal drive (and updated ONLY when is installed on an internal drive), for me it was better to buy the last year model :(

[@possamei]

@@joseabraham777 I found some tutorials online on how to install windows on an external drive, you can always look around! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYOVaZ6Mqb-MgLs Also, isn't upgrading the drive yourself an option? Like, you buy your own for cheap and just install it (though I know the install really sucks)

[@joseabraham777]

possamei yes but it can’t be updated

[@KaizerVilgelm]

Thanks a lot for your video, Luke. I disagree with you only on one thing: I think now is the time to invest in the "latest" Intel-iMac. The reason is that we will see such expected Apple-Silicone-Macs only in two years, and no one can say that they will be much more powerful and better than the current models. I can even say more: we know well the history of new Apple products, and looking at it, I can definitely say that the first generation of Apple-Silicone-Macs will be worse than the current one, and it will have many childhood illnesses. However, the current generation now has the most powerful and most energy efficient hardware ever. And all issues on this chassis have already been resolved. So why should we wait for a new one from which we don't know what to expect, instead of buying the current one, which we all know well about?

[@RyanDunton]

Design language. You’re so right but damn people want that shiny new item

[@itsvenises2520]

You are right. This is the best of this generation. Silicone will need to work out the kinks.

[@crowttubebot3075]

That was why I just bought a new 27" iMac. The drive in my old 21.5" died, and I could have kept using it with and external drive. But, there is a old time saying in the car business, that seems true with computers, too. "Never buy anything with a low serial number."

[@garyclement5527]

And to your point, I think it's a better idea to invest in this than the MacPro at $10,000, and make what money I can with this and wait? What you think?

[@thorium9190]

Sorry man. The M1 is truly revolutionary for the first apple silicon chip

[@fellowearthling1632]

Consider- if you do buy it you can sell it back to Luke in 10 years for his “the last Intel Mac” video.

[@bruceguyster]

Rocking a late 2009 Imac bought new as I wait for the delivery of my monitor for a new M1 16 gb Mac mini. Wife has a recent Macbook Air to do banking and taxes when Intuit told us our Imac was no longer supported. Glad I have found your channel. Planning on keeping this now and upgrading using some of your recommendations. Never have I been more pleased with a computer than I am with this old Imac. Guy

[@kafailo6342]

I will wait until the silicon version comes, I do trust that the A series cpu will be a new era of mac.

[@JoshLeRose]

I'm saving up my pennies and really looking for my first iMac for doing audio editing, music production, and composing. And maybe some light, 1080p video editing on the side. I see this Mac as a great option, and the older design doesn't really bother me. It's an iconic design, and bezels and chin aside, the screen is the best in the business for Macs (aside from the Pro Display XDR). I'd probably step it up to the mid-tier base since I'd need a good amount of internal storage, and then maybe pick up one of Samsung's new T7 portable drives. Also, extra processing power is always nice.

[@BrianLampright913]

Luke!! Common dude! You know that MANY of us rely on x86 to do our work and a powerhouse iMac like this is just what we wanted to get us through the next few years while we are waiting on Apple Silicon to mature. You cannot run VPC’s or Windows on Apple Silicon...that makes it useless for people like me and this iMac is exactly what I was hoping for...of course I would have liked more thermal handling, but oh well.

[@movingloz]

Omg. So are you saying I won’t be able to run windows on the new silicon iMac that’s expected in the near future??? I use Parallels to run windows for the accounting software I need.

[@kingneutron1]

macsfancontrol is your friend :)

[@BrianLampright913]

Lawrence They are changing to a completely different ARM architecture that is NOT compatible with x86 Operating Systems or software. So, the answer is NO you will not be able to run windows using Parallels like you do today. I imagine someone MIGHT make an emulator for Windows, but that will be slow in performance. It’s also possible that Microsoft will create an ARM version of Windows...they have a mobile arm version but it’s junk. With Apple adopting ARM, others might. So in a nutshell you better keep your Intel Mac a while until this all plays out.

[@movingloz]

Brian Lampright thanks so much for the info. I really appreciate it.

[@movingloz]

kingneutron1 thank you so much. I’ll check that out.

[@gekoloniseerd8191]

Thanks for the info, I bought the mid spec for working at home in this pandemic. I don’t have the time to wait on a first gen Apple silicon iMac. It’s going to take a while...

[@Tzippi]

How do you like it? I write and grade a lot. Zoom meetings, KZbin, Netflix while in the hole. Should I buy?

[@danlivas]

What a great machine! It's truly a shame it'll become a vintage item sooner than ever. I remember buying the last PowerMac G5 before Apple switched to Intel. It simply didn't last.

[@macbitz]

Of all Apple devices the iMac is my favourite, been using one since 2013. Shame it's on its last legs and probably won't last until the new Apple Si 27" replacement model appears - currently booting off an external SSD as the 3TB Fusion drive died. Still have my 2008 cheesegrater Mac Pro as well!

[@darrenhunt7838]

Picked up my base spec model a few days ago and yes the first thing that jumped out at me was there is not enough ram. Apart from that I am very happy with it.

[@isaaclinzay8684]

I’m curious what Luke does with all of his iMacs and MacBook pros

[@keijiazum9282]

i think he will return them

[@DevvYT]

he said he sells it and with the money he makes on the video he usually makes a profit

[@skjoldgames]

Sells them as novelty items on eBay. "Owned by KZbin celebrity"

[@g.r.2985]

There’s a storage locker somewhere with 1000’s of Macs (and boxes) somewhere, being paid for by YT income.

[@twoodcc]

i'm more interested in the 10-core version. that 10-core is almost as powerful as the 12-core 2019 mac pro.

[@twoodcc]

@Bobby Brady well that's why i want to see a review to see how it handles the heat

[@pedrofelck]

@@twoodcc tldr: bad

[@jamesthinrg4067]

Is it just me that wants to die when polystyrene is touched and makes noises

[@Evie0133]

7:56 You made me think my "About this Mac" page was open lololol

[@flashjet21]

been using my late 2012 iMac since it was new still works great, even better with some small upgrades

[@JP-tl8rr]

Thanks for the review, been looking at the budget 27inch as i have a 2011 27’” imac which cannot do the latest OS update. One of the program’s i use, turbo tax has said that the 2020 turbo tax wont work with the older OS. Have never had a problem with my 2011 and it will become the hand-me down to the grandson whois getting into youtubing. Thanks again.

[@The_Drive_Inside]

I ordered a 8 core i7 with the 5700 XT 16 gb graphics. I ordered 64 gb ram to for a total of 72 gb with a 1TB SSD... after watching this video I’m PUMPED for it to show up!!! Thank you for the info!!

[@bigtony4829]

I just ordered a basic one myself ..I know what I'm getting with these models and the way i see it 'i'm getting the best tech now rather than gambling on the new tech with all the teething troubles and longevity issues . My current iMac is a 2013 model so if this new ones lasts as long i will be more than pleased

[@Lumberzackk]

My first imac! It comes in the mail soon!

[@cynthiaortiz1449]

Me toooo :)

[@GregsGadgets]

So I should cancel my $3800 2020 iMac? 😅

[@musicalworld2168]

Luke: You should cancel Garg😎

[@thomase917]

No, worst case scenario it'll be a really funny video later on...

[@roj1512]

Greg you said I hate Luke in your yesterday's live stream. And what are you doing here now?

[@officialhwakok94]

Buy it and make it a collection before Apple discontinue intel

[@pauld4129]

Just One?

[@periwinklebutterfly]

Thank you for this video! I ordered a new iMac last week to replace the broken iMac that we’ve had for about a decade. I do photo editing and graphic design, so I cannot go without a computer. If the base model can handle editing your video, then the one I ordered can definitely handle my workload.

[@sergiimisiak2388]

Luke, I’m in doubt. I need iMac for web design (no heavy 3D or video, just amateur or studying). I was choosing between i5 3.1 / i5 3.3. Since the 512 is better and there’s no way to upgrade internal storage - then OK, 3.3 works better. Next doubt: if CPU can be upgraded manually (or at the service company) than is it worth to pay for 5500 8gb? probably I’ll do some minor tasks on video editing (but not 4K) and basic 3D designs. However I’m sure I don’t need 5700 graphics. Definitely I’ll upgrade RAM manually to 64 gb. What would you recommend regarding i5 3.3 /5300 and i7 /5500? Currently I have iMac 27 2011 i7 with 32 RAM. But it’s not enough for my project. I heard that 2020 i5 is almost 2019 i7. Budget is limited. BTW in non US countries prices are different. A basic i5 3.3 costs $2,500 vs $2,000. For i5 3.1 $2150 vs $1,800. And i7 costs $3,100 vs $2,300 If I lived in US I’d definitely go with the basic i7 for $2,300.

[@bpsitrep]

Welp...it's mid summer 2022 now, and I just bought one of these this weekend. For being an old timer moving to an Apple desktop for the first time (major learning curve starts now) I like this new (old) product. Our local (BB) Big Box Store had two of these left and the price was right, considering it's 2022 and the dollar is worth pennies, this is a great buy, so easy set up, one cord until I added the ethernet (old guy distrust 'that through the air stuff') cable so now there three cords of the growing spaghetti farm (printer cable). But overall, I like it. Now where's the damn user manual?!!! As for the boxing...big companies save money on stuff that only gets thrown out...I thought it was just fine. I'll watch your other videos if I can figure out how to .....

[@Trusteft]

I am impressed with the R20 numbers. This is a 6 core CPU, but gets very similar score with my 8 core 5960X. I just tested mine (stock speeds @ 3Ghz) and I get 3249.

[@oneeyedphotographer]

I have never understood the point of those. Why buy a new screen every time you choose to upgrade your computer? If I am writing computer programs, CPU and disk matter, the screen very little. If I am editing photos and or video, shouldn't I get a good monitor for those tasks and keep it? I have monitors that are pushing 15 years old. They don't do Adobe RGB at all well, but their sRGB isn't too bad, and they're fine for many tasks. I have a BenQ monitor for photography, if I want something flashy, there's the new TV.

[@rousedvideo3380]

I just updated from late iMac 27 i5 2013 to this model 2020 and is great, 256gb ssd is very low, but having couple external ssd's doing good job! highly recommend! For video editing is a good computer!

[@AWildBard]

I teach online classes and make simple videos using my 2011 imac. I did replace the hard drive and upgraded the ram to 8 gb. works fine

[@ninline2000]

One thing I learned long ago is to take over control of the fan. No matter who makes the computer. Heat is the enemy. The only thing I don't like about the design is the huge bezels. As far as I'm concerned, other than that, it's the perfect all in one case.

[@TheMonkeee]

Shouldn't it be the cheapest '27 inch' 2020 iMac since the 21.5 inch ones are also actually 2020 iMac (coz they made it all SSD)

[@galerummer5965]

Moksh Haria I bought the early 2020 21.5 inch for $1099. Since most of what Luke knows is Greek to me, I am happy with mine.

[@TheMonkeee]

@@galerummer5965 There was no early-2020 21.5 inch iMac, it is just a 2017 21.5 inch iMac.

[@musicalworld2168]

@@galerummer5965 You wasted your money on a 2017 computer. You should have spent $200 more and got a miles better computer.

[@hedydd2]

Moksh, if it does what you want it to do, great. I've got a mid-2011 21" iMac and it still works perfectly and, after adding more RAM than the 4GB originally fitted, actually better than ever. You have saved $200 that you didn't need to spend, if you look at it that way. I've recently bought a 2019 model iMac 27" with core i9 and 2TB SSD, knowing that a new model was on the way, which turns out to be a spec revision after all, but I don't care one way or another, because I am perfectly happy with this model and its performance, which is more than I'll probably ever need. I also know that its software will still work fine for another eight to ten years, if not longer. Luke is into sensationalising 'the next big thing' when it comes to new, rather than older products. It is 'consumerism' gone wild. The secret to happiness is to be content with what you have got and not to covet the next big thing unless it gives you a very real, not theoretical, advantage in some very significant way.

[@TheMonkeee]

@@hedydd2 I know that, I am currently using the same 21.5 inch mid 2011 iMac. I am just saying that the base model is much worse value compared to the others and may get less number of software updates. This will lower it's resale value, therefore making it costlier in the long run.

[@anchoragedj]

I am considering getting the 2020 27”, solely because I can A) use an eGPU with it B) I can upgrade the RAM & C) they’re everywhere for less than $1200! The display is worth more than the retail price and I have an M1 Max. And I disagree with your point that you (I or anyone) can build a or buy a PC at a lesser price - even with the outdated hardware. I’m having a heck of a time finding a PC with Thunderbolt I/O - at ALL! A 5K display with native software support isn’t a possibility, and seemingly Apple doesn’t seem to be too concerned with building such a killer AIO using the M silicon. We’re still relegated to the basic (Air/13” MBP) M1 and with OWC, the chances of upgrading the internal SSD are very high. In my opinion, this is the best deal on the computer market bar none. Bootcamp still works for Windows partitions, a Linux distro and the current version of macOS. And I’m looking at the 5600/5700 GPUs with a core i7. Intel’s iterative updates since then are just that. Iterative. The 12xxxx/13xxxxx are much faster CPUs still saddled with the limitations of the infrastructure that comes with using a motherboard/logic board. If you’re not using the machine for super fast editing or encoding and exporting video - you can’t go wrong spending a thousand bucks in 2023 on such a killer display with a computer (that doesn’t suck) built in. A perfect family computer that’ll still last many years to come. I still have a 21.5” 2010 and a 2011 working model of each. While slow as molasses with 5400rpm internal storage - the SSD & upgraded (significantly) dGPUs in these make them a no brainer. My M1 Max is fast and reliable and constantly improving with the support of third party software and the support BUT without Intel, there’s still no real way to run Windows if need be unless it’s Windows ARM, presenting its own limitations. I’m looking at one on Woot, an Amazon sale aggregation app that has a 56/5700 GPU (I don’t remember which), 1TB SSD, & 8GB of RAM that’s easily upgraded. As well, the four Thunderbolt 3 ports allows for the expansion of whatever you need to expand externally… including NVMe storage that’s double the speed of the internal storage of the machine!!! I’m surprised they’re available all day for less than a third the price of my M1 MacBook Pro Max. Lastly the limitations of using multiple displays is gone in comparison with the M1 MacBook Air and 13” Pro or M1 iMacs. All of which are capable of running only a second display due to the inherent restrictions of the Apple silicon. TL/DR: in comparison with the current M2 silicon Mac’s in the same price range (all brand new including this one) - these are significantly better a deal for many if not most folks who need a desktop at home. Period. Just my humble opinion though as your mileage may vary. The external GPU via Thunderbolt is enough of a benefit to hit buy now. As well as the use of full blown Windows natively via BC or Parallels. And the display is unmatched at this price MINUS the display. You simply can’t buy a 5K display of this quality for less than $14-1600. And you can buy new 2020 27” models new in box for 20-30% less than that!!! Great video although dated - it still has all the benefits you outlined plus many more.

[@abled24]

Got mine yesterday and love it. As long as its functionality has longevity then it will serve well beyond the introduction of apple silicon

[@lemontheultimate]

I like the design, space aged and all in one, plus the upgradability on 2nd hand Imacs

[@axxxxman]

I think the memory upgrade listed above is not the best option, my 2020 iMac takes 2666mhz ram not the 19000mhz listed above.

[@counter511]

So... being on the market for a new mac... I am interested in this product only because of the Very Nice 27” screen !!! The bazels ? But’s that’s awesome for my post-its... Now, I am not going to ask him too much... I’m not a pro... I was thinking to buy the basic model... but now that I really look at it... I think I will buy the third one... just basic... with 8 core, 512 SSD, or 1TB, 5500 XT 8GB... And that will lasts for the next 3-5 years... Some people said that you should buy the 10gig internet... Not sure about that... I think this machine is well powered enough... But my only question... is... is this going to stay quiet ?

[@richy2258]

It doesn't sound like you do pro-level creative work on your machine. It'll keep you very happy. It'll be very quiet, and everyone who mentioned getting 10 gig ethernet is wrong. You can't saturate that much bandwidth, no matter how hard you try (unless you're moving around 8k projects back and forth on a server). The screen is alright/good. It's a reasonable combo. I would much rather go with a Mac Mini with an OLED screen, but I don't use a traditional setup of sitting at a desk. Also, don't get less than a 1 TB drive -- it's really not recommended. I'm assuming you have other Apple products. Videos and images are going to increase in size a lot over the next 3-5 years. The internal drive will work a lot faster than an external drive. If you do anything beyond browsing the internet and using basic productivity software (word, power point), then you'll be just fine. If you use Logic Pro X or even Garage Band, or do any video/picture editing, I would consider some different upgrade paths. If you just have basic uses, get the lowest processor, 16 gb of RAM, 1TB drive, 5500 8gb, 1/2.5 gig ethernet bing bang boom. That is the stock, comfortable setup for regular/moderate users. Any other upgrades give severely diminishing returns. Would not recommend going any lower on the RAM or graphics. You should also check the comparable builds in the Apple Refurb store, where availability and deals change throughout the course of the day.

[@kaiusvun]

You mean bezos?

[@mondotv4216]

I bought the high spec’d one with 2 upgrades; 10Gig ethernet and the top of the range graphics card. It’s not an upgrade, it’s replacing a 5 year old PC with a GTX980 and will be used as a production tool. I’m and editor and animator and need something that’ll playback 4K without transcoding and will connect to both my NAS via 10GigE. I’m unconvinced that Apple silicon will outdate this any time soon. But whatever - working mostly from home now and will be a huge leap from the mid 2015 15” Macbook Pro that I’m stuck on at home. And by the time you cost the display, this is the only Mac that makes economic sense to me.

[@borgranta61103]

The option of the 5700XT with 16GB of ram offers double the ram of the graphics cards currently available for PC builders.

[@douglasmarinini3873]

I’d like to see a comparison between the 2020 base model iMac and a used iMac with the same performance... I’d like to see how much money you could save...

[@skjoldgames]

Our studio just ordered the new i9 with the 5700 xt fully loaded. I'll let you know how it performs when it gets here. I'm doing the RAM upgrade myself to save a little on the Apple tax.

[@McNallyOfficial]

That's what I'm looking at doing. Please let me know how it goes.

[@DB-lr6kl]

did you get the nano texture screen?

[@skjoldgames]

@@DB-lr6kl I didn't. I won't be viewing the panel at any angle other than head-on. I'll have a large 4K TV behind my desk for presentations.

[@skjoldgames]

@@McNallyOfficial Scores a 2467 in Unigen Haven. Haven't upgraded the RAM yet.

[@podboq2]

sooooo, where's the report on how your new machine performs?

[@videosmithlaguna]

Should I buy this or wait for the Silicon imac. I am a serious video editor and really confused. I don't want to pay big money for outdated tech in a few years! When is Imac Silicon coming out?????

[@darrentysoe3606]

Cant fault it. Open the box, and set up in 10 mins. It just works flawlessly. I bought crucial 16 GB x 2 RAM for £100. I don’t edit videos much so iCloud meets my storage needs. I like the 4 x USB ports and the 1080p webcam. Wish I’d got the track pad but the mouse is ok. People complain about the charging port - but it lasts for ages - a month of ‘normal’ use between charges. Yes it will be out of date soon, but as long as Apple support their intel-based Macs for the foreseeable (my MacBook Pro is 7 years old), so I’d like the iMac to last that long ideally. Great review and refreshing that it was the affordable, base model.

[@plasticarcade]

Why is that a problem is Apple silicon comes out? Will they stop supporting the old computers all together?

[@NomadicDmitry]

Got an M1 MacBook Air on M1. Not looking back for the Intel Macs, even though compatibility is not always perfect (VMs for x86 are a pain).

[@VlauableFather]

Luke, I really need to be able to use boot camp and am needing to upgrade from a 2013 iMac 27”, would this be worth it for someone who needs windows? I’ve never built a pc but I’m starting to think about it..

[@davidnelson3757]

Many thanks for the video , I went on a bit of a splurge and have bought the new 13 16 and the base model 27 , over the last few months , I did kick myself thinking I should have gone for the 512 drive , but using a thunderbolt drive and adding an additional 32 gb of ram , it is working fine , I probably will sell it once apple bring out the upgrade but the big advantage of Mac , is the fact they do hold there value

[@PlayStefan_misc]

For me there is also one important thing, which could be mentioned. If you want to game on an iMac from time to time this may be the last one to do so cause it may be the last one which will support bootcamp. Sure it is not the main reason to buy a Mac at all but it is very important to know that those babies can handle gaming very well.

[@karenhorsekeeper1309]

What is the best bang for my buck regarding iMac 21 and 27 what year is best? Between 2012 and 2018

[@AeNPe101]

Why is everybody complaining about this Mac's design? Sure, it's 8 years old by now (11 if you go all the way back to when they introduced the 16:9 chassis). Granted, those bezels are quite big for today's standards. But still, albeit not "the freshest", it has been and still is a beautiful machine! Just take a look at other non-Mac desktop computers for comparison... Or as Dieter Rams once said: „Good design is durable/longlasting.“

[@mtsu8858]

Thanks for the great review. And two years later we are still waiting for the 27" apple silicon iMac. Perhaps it is a good time to review the higher-end models of 2020 iMac given their price has lowered in the second-hand market?

[@NylonStrings83]

apple wanted save the 7 cents they spend on the microfiber cloth

[@fernand0167]

I’m still running my 2011 21.5 inch iMac. Might upgrade when the second generation arm iMac releases.

[@PeterGregg]

Would like to know if you can record or stream 4K from a camera without the stuttering you get on the 2017 iMac that I have? Nice video 👍

[@David_Bellows]

Me who can barely afford a used 2012.... I wouldn’t mind a 2020

[@jonathanh9592]

I’m in the market for a new computer and have literally only used Mac my entire life. I’m currently on a MacBook Pro late 2015. Should I wait a while for the new line to come out, or is that realistically years away? Thanks.

[@BinarySounds]

I fail to see how editing the video on the iMac proves anything. You could have edited the video on any computer. The real question is how long it took to render and if editing it was a smooth experience or it stuttered while you were editing. You didn't mention any of that.

[@kamertonaudiophileplayer847]

Keep showing unboxing and setup, not all people can afford the beast, but all can still get a feel of owning.

[@garyclement5527]

I'm in the market for a new Imac, and I'm thinking about this machine, but I'm curious when the new Silicon Macs will start rolling out- and what is the big draw for Silicon Mac? That will help me make my decision about buy now or wait. I have too money invested and need some answers.

[@anizyy-glizzy]

Should I get the 21.5 inch iMac? Because I think that’s the best one in my opinion.

[@arun21june]

Luke, have you faced any graphic issue in base model? I am also planning to buy in a week but saw some graphics issues are reported. I think, only GPU 5700XT has issues , just wanted to make sure, graphic issue is not in base model?

[@adityasinghal4011]

I really like how they still provide a mouse, keyboard and a power cord with the imac

[@brandonharden2184]

So, should I get the 10-core iMac Pro over the 10-core iMac since it has better heat management?

[@joet33]

That’s what I’m doing, the iMac Pro base model is 400 dollars off and you get free AirPods.

[@lawrencediggs7957]

I really don't get unboxing videos. Can someone please explain their value?

[@rlh1984]

Considering I’m using 2012(?) Mac Mini with 2gb ram and a pretty small hard drive (I don’t remember how big it is off the top of my head), I really can’t wait around much longer.

[@DanielGonzzz]

Just picked up the high end 2021 27" iMac 5K with the upgraded 3.8 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i7 + AMD Radeon Pro 5500 XT 8 GB + 32 GB RAM (aftermarket) and this thing JAMS! I came from a late 2015 27" iMac 5K which was FULLY LOADED at the time but was having some seriously fatal hardware issues. I've already done a few 1080 videos and the render time in Premiere Pro is pretty damn FAST considering what I was used to with the 2015 model. I am happy with the purchase knowing that I got a good reliable Intel chip which my software will happy integrate with. The big optimization for M-chipped programs will take a few years to catch up, but even then, the M-chipped Macs have serious shelf life as described by Louis Rossman in his video "The more things change, the more they stay the same" around the 4:30 mark. This new 2020 of mine should set me straight for at least 3-5 years god willing.

[@AdrielTan]

IMO It's a boring update with all the talks of apple silicon and a new design, but it's a good update nevertheless. Fresh internals that are a big step up from previous gen and decent pricing make it a good update especially if you need x86 for let's say boot camp.