LULAROE CONVENTION 2016 | Ex-Consultant Experience

[@shariwalker2964]

I can’t wrap my head around these MLM conventions. I’ve got a government job and travel quite often. They pay for the travel, hotel, and even our Uber to and from the airport and give us per diem for meals and expenses. I believe this is more of common practice for people who have jobs where they travel.

[@LolaGeek]

Yes, when I travel for work, all of those expenses are covered by my employer. But when you "own your own business" those are all valid "business expenses," and you're manipulated into thinking you *need* to attend all these events. LLR was especially bad with all these local "training" events in addition to their big annual convention. It's just a way to keep control over people, I think (financially, with your time, etc....)

[@JuliaMarieH]

I got per diem, free travel and free hotels for most of the trips (some were optional and therefore not covered) I took with my college choir!!

[@em84c]

@@Dependencycourtsellschildren um it's part of their job. They aren't going in holiday. They shouldn't have to pay for that out of their wage.

[@pamelaadam9207]

I do some travel for work in health care unless its government funded i have to pay then claim

[@MsAngrybutterfly]

my parent's used to use MLM conventions as "vacations" it's even worse than it sounds.

[@yurabeech5268]

I never understood the Lularoe craze. IMO Lularoe made the ugliest, most shapeless, tasteless, style-less clothes I've ever seen. I googled convention pics and it's just 100s of young women all dressed like they're on their way to Bingo, in Florida, with my Nan. 🧐

[@otakucouture]

That's mean to your Nan!

[@1970joedub]

Americans have a history of choosing the bottom of the barrel, because of trends and marketing.

[@takohamoolsen2432]

The LuLaRoe craze never really hit Australia big. If it did, I never saw it. Amway and Avon, yes. The LuLaRoe prints are fun, but quite weird.

[@sharonnorris9480]

I’ve heard of this company, I think, but don’t know anybody selling it in south Texas. The kind of clothing that’s sold this way that I know if is CaBi. They have parties in people’s homes or over Facebook. The clothes are pretty good, at least they don’t fall apart or get holes in them. And yes, that is a high price for a convention, especially since they never seemed to have enough food. The only kind of conferences/conventions I’ve gone to is Junior League. I went to six different 4 day conferences. It was just for the local President and President-Elect. Sometimes we would send another person. Everything was paid for by our local Junior League and all meals were provided. I always had a lot of fun, but there were a lot of things to go to. At that time in my life (in my 30’s and early 40’s), it was a vacation…went to some awesome places.

[@PONR2006]

She keeps saying this was a fashion event she was attending and I’m like… no. Nothing about LulaRoe is fashion.

[@shelleyswan104]

The leggings should all be cut into strips and made into scrunchies, headbands, and cute little stuffed cat toys.

[@Xxxxxx19-p1c]

Great idea!!

[@jochbo]

Don't give them another MLM product idea!

[@KindredKaye]

Great idea with the headbands and scrunches! I’m not sure if this fabric is safe to go in a pet’s mouth. I’m a little suspicious of how it breaks down (considering what happened to a bunch of the supplies that got wet and began to rot).

[@erikmolnar6585]

I would not feel comfortable buying my cats moldy or toxic dyed toys

[@littleraeofsunshine]

I remember checking out of the Anaheim Hilton after my layover one year, and this lady checking in beside me was wearing absolutely wild prints. I thought "that looks like Lularoe" then saw the sign on the counter welcoming people to the convention. Never been prouder to be in a tailored uniform.

[@jaggirl]

Those leg ins scream, no taste in fashion to me..lol

[@1970joedub]

@@jaggirl that’s why the leggings sold well in the USA.

[@Xxxxxx19-p1c]

😂😂😂

[@breannab3610]

Wait the Lularoe convention had their opening party at a PYRAMID themed water park? How ironic.

[@LolaGeek]

🤣

[@Missab4000]

It’s an Egyptian theme. Pharaohs Splash Kingdom.

[@eagleeye2300]

An unintentional waking dream...Or warning...

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

Brilliant! LMFAO!

[@breannayn]

Thank you for sharing your stories… it’s really important for those of us trying to help friends caught up in these scams.

[@LolaGeek]

Thank you for watching!

[@drpsionic]

If my wife were to come out of the bedroom wearing one of those, er, dresses I would be in terrible trouble because I would not be able to stop laughing.

[@michelleb7399]

A couple co-workers started wearing that stuff at work, around 2015 I think. They felt so happy and confident. I thought they looked a bit underdressed and kind of looked alike. But they looked happy… for about a year.

[@jaggirl]

I'd laugh at my self. I'd feel like a clown.

[@colettenp]

Hard lessons learned about MLMs unfortunately...You are very cute, articulate and intelligent and probably can do anything you want and get paid well for your talent

[@cheechalker8430]

How to know the company you work for is a scam: 1. You have to pay to attend their conventions (“registration fee”?! - you’re just paying for your own “swag”) 2. The company has ‘conventions’

[@koolblue6927]

So right.

[@onwednesdayswewearpink2761]

that was some damn expensive swag!! a paper fan and a canvas bag!

[@cheechalker8430]

@@onwednesdayswewearpink2761 well, in fairness, there was food ….. you just had to be there 2 hours early before they ran out

[@Ron898]

Lots of reputable companies have conventions.

[@cheechalker8430]

@@Ron898 yes and reputable companies do not make their employees _pay_ in order to attend their conventions

[@sm9776]

This sounds like my worst nightmare. You have a great attitude.

[@LolaGeek]

Haha thank you!

[@briarrose29]

The cost for that conference is outrageous, for the experience you had!

[@LolaGeek]

Yup, definitely not worth it!

[@carencronin7730]

The irony of the water park being pyramid-themed isn’t lost on me. Thanks for a great recap, you have a much better attitude than I would. I wear LLR a lot because I find it for really cheap at the thrift store and I teach preschool so it’s perfect... I just dress like my students. 😂😉

[@LolaGeek]

Thanks for watching! The pyramid thing didn't even occur to me until I was editing, lol!

[@abigailsoto9600]

😂

[@lauraromdeussen864]

@@LolaGeek I'm just glad to hear that someone else recognizes that not all pyramids are Egyptian! Hahah. But I heard horror stories about the walk back from the water park!

[@ciaracantwell]

This was so interesting! I have to compliment you - if I didn't get fed for a day or two, during an event - I would NOT have been a happy camper. That S'more sounded great but come on! LOL

[@LolaGeek]

LOL, thank you! Yeah I don't mind not getting fed if I know and can plan for it, but when you claim to provide multiple meals and then run out of food within minutes without any other options for thousands of people to eat... we get hangry 😂

[@squeakyrabbit]

There was only one s'more 😔

[@merediths2cents]

If you’re not on Facebook you see none of these mlms. And your life is happier. Delete Facebook.

[@efolinsky]

Or very carefully curate your facebook... Honestly.... I have like one friend who posts like ....once every two months *maybe* about tupperware but doesn't message her friends etc or get annoying about it. That's literally it.

[@dannyholt2297]

The theme park was Pharaoh's Lost Kingdom. I used to go to it every weekend when I was younger. I moved to Oklahoma as an adult, so seeing the park in your video reminded me of it.

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

Last time I drove past it, it appeared to be closed. Not sure if it was for good, or just due to covid. But it was one of my kids' favorite places when they were little.

[@apotbos]

My wife was about to join an MLM. Mary Kay, I told her not to waste her time and money so she decided to get a real job as a nurse. She works when she wants and makes great money. Don't fall for this crap.

[@LolaGeek]

Good looking out.

[@CopperRidge]

They weren’t prepared for the number of people because they oversold the event by thousands. It was all about the money for them! I was there and it was a total mess.

[@xeno4746]

They expect you to look tip top during the various "events" (I am guessing....no LLR clothing). You paid YOURSELF for the plane, hotel, uber, dinner, etc. You stood waiting in (the heat) for hours and listened to boring salespitches. And what did you get in return? An unflattering dress, a little lunch, a night of boring music and a visit to a PYRAMID 😀water park. Mmmmhhh. So 4 expensive and wasted days. And LuLaRoe used this again as advertising for their "great company".

[@etsy9576]

This was so good! Thank you for sharing with us 😊 I too just finished watching the documentary. I hope you have more LulaRoe adventure stories to tell 😊

[@LolaGeek]

Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed!

[@kimmiebraunthal4874]

Thank you for posting this! This same year (2016) I went to my first of two Zumba Instructor Conventions (ZinCon)... we were responsible for our own food - thankfully none was offered so we were all prepared to pay for our own - but we were also mostly encouraged to stay at the hotel where most of the classes and activities were being held. There was a walkway between various hotels since it was the Orlando convention center area and was well-designed in that way, but for the most part you could run back to your hotel room between things. We definitely had to pack for multiple events: fitness party, various themed masterclasses, the big themed party i.e. zumba prom or golden age, etc. and I always had trouble fitting everything into my suitcase each year. It just goes to show the MLM hierarchy, literally, of those who are prepared (or better prepared at least) for the numbers of registrants -- which if too many should alter the logistics of an event if you're planning properly and not allow people to be standing outside for hours on end just to sign in -- and how some last for FAR longer than others (Zumba's been an MLM model since about 2005/2006 and still going even in the scarcity months of the pandemic).

[@em84c]

I didn't know Zumba was like an MLM! Do you need to recruit other people to start Zumba classes?

[@kimmiebraunthal4874]

@@em84c sort of? it depends on the marketing at the gym you teach at (which means whether or not they advertise different classes or schedules, etc.)... or if you're on your own renting a space (you'd need to get your own insurance on top of that for on your own). Instructors definitely get discounts for bulk-ordering and then get the kickbacks for whatever they sell to their students. It's a strange situation that isn't 100% MLM, because a lot of it is through gym memberships and then instructor memberships do offer a lot for what you pay (monthly music to use, a zumba music app, choreography every other month, etc.)... but there are very few who teach FULL TIME and those that do hustle like no other.

[@juliaalexander5788]

I love their classes too !

[@seemenomore8900]

First time I seen theses clothes were at a flea market. The lady had a nice organized booth with $30 rolled up UGLY print leggings. Like a lot of them. With zero customers.

[@ettoilemagik]

Thanks for telling us this! I think it's the first time I saw an ex-hun talking about her experience at conventions. Usually it's anti-MLMer who indirectly talk about it, which is great but a bit different.

[@LolaGeek]

Thank you for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed the perspective - there are plenty of people in the anti-MLM community who were formerly involved with MLMs themselves.

[@ettoilemagik]

@@LolaGeek yes I know, I wasn't saying it that way haha. I wanted to say that I didn't see many of them talking about a convention they went to when they were in their MLM. That's why this video is so great 😄

[@sueknoll8567]

probably don't want to admit they paid so much money to have a pretty miserable time.

[@KrystalElle]

Great video. I just watched the LulaRich documentary on Prime, and then found your videos. FYI, Les Brown is still alive! He and his son just hosted an online event!😉

[@LolaGeek]

Thanks, yes, I made a note in the description, must have confused him with someone else!

[@candacebex4370]

I can’t believe the planning involved transporting people to a place hours away. Even if mileage it was closer, people are aware of travel time.

[@donnerdonner315]

I laughed when you got to the part about the opening party at Splash Kingdom. You were in Redlands and that whole place has now been demolished! Glad you got to experience In-N-Out..it's a SoCal legend!!! Sounds like a horrible experience otherwise...happy for you being smart enough to get out early when you did!

[@LolaGeek]

Oh wow, that water park is gone?! That's a shame, it was a neat place and probably the best part of this whole event, lol!

[@Adrastia]

I have lupus and I could never stand out in the desert sun for hours. I feel so bad for the people who had to have ambulances called. They should have provided water and shade from the start.

[@joeymarie72]

Very first clue that something may be not quite right: Full time pay for part time work. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I'm sure there's a unicorn somewhere.

[@MistressGlowWorm]

That fan looks exactly like my sleep paralysis demon.

[@jaggirl]

🤣🤣🤣

[@djs2182]

Loved these details! Thank you for sharing

[@LolaGeek]

Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed!

[@kareim27]

Excellent recap.

[@LolaGeek]

Thank you!

[@skateata1]

Idk why, but I like these videos from people who left MLMs. Even though I'm listening to bad experiences, I am glad former consultant's left.

[@navewife]

So interesting to hear what really happened. FYI Ontario isn’t really the desert it just gets hot in that whole valley.

[@LolaGeek]

Haha! I just found it so interesting that in one local TV weather forecast they covered beach, city, desert, and mountains 😮 Thanks for watching!

[@ajdavis5321]

OMg thank you, that kept bothering me. Its in a very populated area.

[@jocelynrodriguez4749]

This pretty much tells me that they learned nothing between 2016 and 2017. I joined in March of 2016 and already had things planned that summer, so I couldn't attend the convention in 2016. But 2017 was a shit show. They dropped millions on that thing and the attendees were left tired, frustrated and hungry. But were also yelled at for complaining.

[@ellemmenn2930]

I’ve just kind stumbled across this whole mess after finding the Amazon documentary…. I’m sorry you had to experience that, would you mind if I asked what made the 2017 convention such a shit show? I’m honestly curious if you would be kind enough to enlighten me itd be much appreciated. Thank you in advance

[@jocelynrodriguez4749]

@@ellemmenn2930 Sure! From arrival to departure, it was a mess. I think 20,000 people attended, and they WERE NOT PREPARED. It costed $400 each, and for that they were supposed to provide several things. A convention shirt (they asked our sizes when registering, so they should have been there). Dinner at the beach party, dinner at the concert. Food trucks for lunch. All we did was stand in lines all weekend long just for them to run out of food constantly. Lines for the busses, lines to register, lines to get food. Anytime someone had the gall to complain, we were told to spend our energy being positive instead of negative. We were all HANGRY all weekend long. My feet got so swollen from sitting in folding chairs all weekend. The best part was the following days when I went to Disneyland with my daughter.

[@mgparis]

You are so articulate and it's a pleasure listening, you have a new subscriber :)

[@LolaGeek]

Thank you! 🥰

[@meganreed9251]

MAN you have great memory, this took me down memory lane! 😂

[@LolaGeek]

Haha sorry if it was triggering 😆

[@phreakzilla8514]

I’ve seen on a few other videos that they kept stock outside in the parking lots because they had no room. Did you see that or did that happen afterwards?

[@LolaGeek]

I didn't see that during my tour, but this convention was actually right before we started hearing about the wet clothes (the Carly dress, which was introduced here, is the first thing I remember hearing about coming wet and smelly)

[@larryg5698]

It’s on Vice.. just watched it.

[@jaggirl]

I heard that too. A lot was out in the elements. Some consultants got wet stock delivered. I can't believe LuLu didn't throw it out.

[@Josie2013]

Seeing a office and a conference room? The last thing I would want to do on a vacation.

[@Echolyris212]

😂😂😂 no kidding

[@LisasPeaceOfArt]

Sounds like a very very expensive nightmare from hell. Happy you survived

[@r8chlletters]

I was there and it was a shitshow. “Diane fans” were the cherry on the sundae and we did a lot of unspeakable things with them back at the hotel.

[@chocolatechipslime]

Spill the beans plz

[@denisegregory8783]

Who is Diana?

[@natmarie6450]

Very engaging. Thank you. I really enjoyed it😊

[@LolaGeek]

Thanks for watching!

[@LydiaIndica]

How does a "convention" run out of food 🙃🙃🙃?

[@LolaGeek]

🤔

[@ctt7971]

Poor planning … I work in a major Las Vegas hotel and if anything they always have too much food for conventions.

[@ellemmenn2930]

It sounds like someone massively dropped the ball on catering…… who doesn’t issue food/ drink tickets so it’s not a self serve situation where rude people take a ton of food and not cari g whether everyone else actually got fed

[@notclagnew]

You have great storytelling and editing skills. Were the sustainability claims debunked in the Amazon documentary? It's been a few months since I watched it.

[@LolaGeek]

Thank you so much! I don't believe LuLaRich touched on sustainability. Rise and Fall of LuLaRoe did address the manufacturing side of things a bit more.

[@Gen-yh1jz]

Splash Kingdom was an abandoned mini golf, arcade, with a water slide park.By 2016 they had lost liquor license and had very little business. As of 2021 it has been demolished. Towards the end they were very cheap to rent out for events. However, most people wouldn’t rent it out because Redlands is hot and they have a lot of outside space. The organizers should have rented out Riverside or Ontario convention center.Completely indoors and air conditioned. All these cities are in a part of California called the Inland Empire. These are not desert cities but they get hot, it’s not mild temps. They should have rented the tiki picnic area at Knotts Berry farm amusement park and had it catered. It is in Orange County and has mild weather. The whole block has hotels and tourists attractions. A lot of companies do that. I have never heard of a company renting out Splash Kingdom. Such a disservice to their Representatives and employees.

[@LolaGeek]

That pool party was probably the best part of the convention 😆 But yeah, I mean, there was a lot of stuff the organizers "should have" done 🙃

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

Thank you- I thought it was closed the last time I drove past it, but I wasn't sure if it was due to covid or not. So the whole thing has been demolished? Too bad...my kids loved that place many many years ago. And you're so right about how there are numerous nearby convention centers that are far more appropriate for such events...Palm Springs is a bit of a ways away from Ontario, but it has a big convention center and also a lot of fun tourist activities and nice hotels.

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

I'm confused as to why anyone would want to hold a convention in the Inland Empire, as well. Like you said, closer to the coast would've been far more pleasant and also more easily accessible!

[@melissakalloway1916]

Did it ever occur to you that the clothes are hideous? Not to be unkind, but the last thing any female over six needs are tights with garish prints.

[@LolaGeek]

Yeah you should check out my "selfie critique" video, the clothes were definitely not all my style 😆 kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4WqgmyKlqdsn6c

[@pamelalansbury94]

I’m 43 and I’ll never stop wearing tights with garish prints.

[@djpower8791]

That fan with the face kills me lol.

[@heartfulhaidyn]

I didn’t know Lularoe was ever popular with young people-I’m 25 and never heard anyone talk about liking their clothes. They all look so ugly to me and I’ve only ever seen older millennials dress like that (although none of the ones I know do and it’s definitely not popular here.) I don’t mean to come across as critical of anyone who does though, obviously we all have our own taste and I’m sure lots of people feel the same way about my clothes. I’m mostly just confused about when and with whom Lularoe was popular.

[@rebelbelle1388]

What a horrible experience for the amount you paid. I would say I can't believe they were that ill-prepared, but I saw LulaRich, so I know that the Stidhams put their kids in charge who had no experience and no business in those positions. Given what I know now, I totally believe that the convention was a dumpster fire.

[@kimberlyoldschool]

Agreed. I’ve probably attended 100 professional conferences over the years, and my mind is boggled from this. No food provided on site? Registration getting things wrong and not allowing for a complete pre-conference registration with everything mailed in advance? Not providing transportation to events off-site? Making people stand in line OUTSIDE IN THE DESERT to register??? Good god.

[@leekspinner]

aww you're too nice! these guys totally mismanaged the whole thing 😆

[@daniellegiles4492]

Ontario is nowhere near any desert Is surrounded by cities. The Desert is 2 hours away from Ontario. I was there 10 miserable summers with temperatures over 120 F. I’m sure you’ve heard of Coachella Fest? Thats is LITERALLY the desert.

[@LolaGeek]

🤷🏼‍♀️ It's a lot more deserty than where I'm from, we don't really have cacti just growing loose...

[@boatymsboatface3929]

I haven’t done LSD for 30 years, but I would have needed some to attend that craziness- lol, the wildly patterned clothes would have made it worthwhile. Love your vids!

[@LolaGeek]

LOL! 🤣

[@Tinasburrito666]

Oof I think that would scar me for life. All those prints would jump out and come to life. I’d probably run myself off a water slide on purpose

[@natasmean4374]

I don't know if anyone else posted this- but the llr graphic next to the name is a pyramid looking down from above

[@jodeeps2287]

You are very easy to listen to. I must admit I am feeling some anxiety for you recalling this trip. I have not seen one piece of clothing from LuLaRoe that I would be caught dead in, sorry. It seems to me the whole concept of this company was for the owners to start something that would make them a lot of money fast. The style and quality of clothing seemed to be an after thought. I find it hard to believe they would start a company with selling those clothes in mind, ugh.

[@LolaGeek]

Thanks for your comments 🙂 If you check out my video about my LLR outfit selfies, you'll see I only had a limited wardrobe of decent LLR pieces myself 😆 kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4WqgmyKlqdsn6c

[@TheShangralaaaa17]

these women were played....forking out $10k to sell hideous clothes? yikes bro

[@YoSmitty55]

I think this is the one I went to. My very first flight anywhere. So many consultants. What an experience. Met some great people even on the airplane. I thank God for always surrounding me with great people.

[@lolofosho3776]

Im not trying to be rude but what is going on with the clothes you packed for this convention? This is supposed to be considered fashion forward. I wouldnt be caught dead. I feel like im missing something. People buy clothes like this and actually wear them?

[@sandieserrano2425]

Why did they fly into LAX when Ontario has a really nice airport?

[@LolaGeek]

🤷🏼‍♀️

[@gunsole64]

Ugh this brings back bad memories. Not everyone who showed up was pre registered. Several people were invited to come the day of without paying registration. Sorry I was one of those who took two lunches but in my defense, the previous conventions didn’t have a cap on eating food.

[@misslilly259]

I don't get it, ugliest clothing and people went crazy to buy the crap.

[@eagleeye2300]

My guess is dopamine hits from puchases, and a group consciousness thing going on.

[@lindaruthjones]

I'm sorry to inform you that the city of Ontario , California is part of the Inland empire it is NOT in the Desert !!!

[@LolaGeek]

OK

[@sarahc357]

This sounds like tanacon 😳

[@LolaGeek]

LOL! I was going to say those people might have had more to complain about than me, but that event was supposedly free - so maybe less room to argue they didn't get what they paid for 😂

[@clarissajones9771]

I had the same thought

[@jennifersaunders1979]

@@LolaGeek tanacon was not free. People had to buy tickets. The problem is they purposely sold tickets over the amount of capacity for the venue. There’s a whole documentary on it. People had to be refunded their money etc…

[@frieda8956]

Didnt think the Deeane fans were real🤣🤣 how creepy. Also imagine having to pay your job, you "business" to visit their headquarters. Smh

[@Sapphirezkillahitz13]

Seems like they focused too much on the supplies n design instead of planning for possible issues

[@lemonemmi]

Don't worry, we've all been thinking of corona for a while...

[@LolaGeek]

😂🤣

[@jackiebaker1678]

LLR is NOT FASHION!

[@LolaGeek]

😂 True!

[@jenniferbond7073]

So true. This girl is a sweetheart and I mean not shame on her. Those outfits she put together with the LLR clothes were hideous. There is mixing patterns in a very savvy way, then there is the LLR way which is to put patterns together that clash in every way possible. She is adorable but her LLR outfits were horrible. I think that was part of the rip off to convince people that their patterns should be worn together so they could sell more shitty clothes.

[@xeno4746]

@@jenniferbond7073 Fashion trends do not exist but are created. 5 years in advance all the colours, patterns and models are "fixed". And whether you can talk about fashion at LLR 😡🤔. MML is all about money. A cheap product sold as "special" and also way too expensive. It's not about sales, it's about the profit model.

[@Mythrose]

Why would they not just base their sizes on measurements, teach everyone how to measure themselves, and have a sizing chart? So easy

[@clod148]

That would be far too easy, obviously ;)

[@Pippi-Longstocking]

They don’t have to! There’s no incentive to be a real company. As I understand it before everyone was catching onto what was going on, returns were not accepted. It’s an amazing scam that they take your money and send whatever product they want in whatever sizes.

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

I'm pretty sure that last time I drove past that amusement park with the big sphinx it was closed down. Maybe because of Covid? But it was definitely not open. And yeah, that place is ridiculously far from Ontario for them to not provide transportation! They couldn't have just rented some busses or something??

[@LolaGeek]

It was a cool park, but yeah, logistics were not thought out well...

[@jobellecollie7139]

How can LLR be business casual? I retired from a famous women's clothing company and I would have run a mile f she tossed any of those prints in her new line! The fabrics! Yuck! I don't think LLR would ever be invited to NY Fashion Week!

[@LolaGeek]

They pretty much just meant, "don't wear leggings"

[@hawaiiankansanfeindel7131]

I can't imagine being there and seeing all the women in LR.

[@KnitToMyLou]

Interesting outfit choices looooolllll

[@LolaGeek]

If you liked that, you should watch this video critiquing a year's worth of outfit selfies: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4WqgmyKlqdsn6c

[@jennylee5003]

Did $349 include the hotel and food? Like did you have to pay for the salad you grabbed off the cart, the smore (lol) the pizza dinner meeting thing…. Or did you pay out of pocket for airfare, hotel, food

[@LolaGeek]

Hotel and airfare were not included.. The meals where they ran out of food and the beach party were (but again, most didn't get fed), and the pizza party was covered by my upline (there is an expectation for them too that they will host dinners, parties, or give gifts at these events).

[@MamaCat29]

These leggings are hideous. I don't know what the appeal was.

[@eagleeye2300]

Comfort. No effort required.

[@kittymervine6115]

I always thought I'd like to have gone to the Disney one! Or maybe a cruise, but when they rented out Disney I was "eh, that could be fun." But did you have to pack ONLY Lularoe clothing to wear? I am guessing yes.

[@LolaGeek]

"LuLaRoe head to toe" was the motto, though I rarely made that happen 😂 I don't think there was a convention at Disney that I know of (maybe a very early one when there were like 10 people?), but a lot of people went there on their own while they were in the area..

[@navewife]

They used California Adventure when the Disney line launched.

[@michellesunshinestar]

Pre-Uber?

[@LolaGeek]

No, there were Ubers

[@Xxxxxx19-p1c]

Sustainability in fast fashion? Wow, they really blew it.

[@Meg-ji2ki]

I’ve never been interested in any MLM, but someone I knew was selling this crap so I bought a pair of leggings from her. They ripped first time I wore them. I have no clue how these people are still in business!

[@LolaGeek]

Me neither, at this point!

[@georgeyreynolds]

They were in business because they didn't care about the clothes, just signing people up. It was a pyramid scheme from the start ...

[@lynrowan2521]

What an absolute scam. The Stidhams should be prosecuted. Aside from anything else, the clothes are absolutely vile, bloody ghastly. A friend who works in a thrift shop that has loads of this garbage dumped on their doorstep. Apparently, they can barely GIVE it away, it's so ugly. Smh.

[@tammycope3145]

I would have quit immediately!!! If they did not respect their people more than that, it was not worth your time!!!

[@alijane6675]

It blows my mind that this company convinced so many women that they were working…with no pay. And making you pay to attend a company convention? Did none of you clue in that that’s not how corporate works?

[@misfitmakeup1980]

Sure get involved with an mlm lose money but you will gain sister hood instead really when the same people will desert you when you no longer serve there purpose

[@asamanyworlds3772]

Predators that target vulnerable women. Shame these owners. Did not get in trouble

[@ryanmiller4300]

Lol! The difference btwn the classic black you have on here vs the pattern overload in pics of your convention outfits... 💀

[@LolaGeek]

And honestly, the stuff I wore at convention was not my "daily" LLR wardrobe - I had a capsule wardrobe of more understated stuff that I saved for myself 😂

[@ReginaldSultanOfScat]

Sounds a little like my Kabbalah conference experience...also done with that long time

[@LolaGeek]

Wow, I didn't know they had Kabbalah conferences! That would be interesting to hear about..

[@ReginaldSultanOfScat]

I'm open to conversation, have been to 2

[@HarvestMoon2049]

@@ReginaldSultanOfScat Hi- If I may ask, what is a Kabbalah convention? What took/takes place?

[@isabellavalencia8026]

Waiting in line for a name tag?!?! What the heck for?pointless

[@LolaGeek]

It was to check in upon your arrival - you couldn't get into any events if you didn't check in and collect your name tag, etc.

[@isabellavalencia8026]

@@LolaGeek yes I understand that but let's be honest what was the point of it it was just another part of their scam to try to make people feel like it was an official event when really they're just digging into your pockets more and more

[@LolaGeek]

Correct, but as far as why were people waiting for name tags, it wasn't just to waste time or because they were amazing collectors items, it was because we had to (and that's why the lone was so long)

[@delphinidin]

I love how many people you've stayed friends with. Trauma-bonding? :D

[@LolaGeek]

😆

[@agenovese3]

I don’t like the company there are few products I can purchases. Do you still wear their products?

[@LolaGeek]

I do not (though I did pull out an old pair of leggings this weekend for a costume 😂)

[@agenovese3]

@@LolaGeek Omg, lol, I am a solid print girl. I have seen those prints. Too crazy 😆

[@luvsupreme]

Les Brown is not passed away.

[@LolaGeek]

Yeah, I corrected myself in the video description, was thinking of someone else 😳

[@DecemberIceBaby]

Fashion environment 😂😂😂😂..

[@MT_24]

I don't understand why and how people fall for this...maybe because I am not really a joiner. It's unbelievable how these women allowed themselves to be suckered into this, and the outrageous cost for such ugly merchandise.

[@christinelaver942]

They prey on the vulnerable with the promise of making easy money.

[@TXgigimom64]

Never bought 1 thing from this company.

[@LolaGeek]

Thank you for taking the time to share your experience

[@suryasingh_12]

Don’t join any kind of management trainee in future, it’s the same thing

[@peggycrowley9534]

Those outfits are awful. I never understand what women saw in those ugly patterns.

[@susanreina4008]

All those clothes are ugly and calling them “fashion” is a gigantic stretch! How did any one ever think LulaRoe prints and silhouettes were attractive?

[@LolaGeek]

The "LuLaRoe head to toe" silhouette with layers and layers of shapeless pieces was not flattering. But styled creatively and mixed with "regular" clothes, they could be OK. Check out my LuLaRoe selfies video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4WqgmyKlqdsn6c

[@msanw]

Les Brown is still living.

[@LolaGeek]

Yup, I realized after I recorded this and put a note in the description 🙈

[@rebeccag8589]

1- it's a little silly that for a decent number of people, it sounds like the main takeaway of this video was the climate of Ontario, CA. Haha. 2- Although it's a developed city and not literally in the middle of a desolate desert, the climate of Ontario is absolutely a semi arid desert climate and is classified by the Koppen classification system as "hot Mediterranean". To someone not used to that kind of climate (I've been there), it absolutely feels like you're in the desert, and you kind of are! Anyways, glad you got out and I'm sorry you went through that. You seem great and I'm sure you're doing great things now!

[@LolaGeek]

LOL thank you 🥰

[@eileenkauffman9390]

Those clothes are enough to give you seizures. Dear God!!!!

[@LolaGeek]

😂

[@llddau]

You know what, I wish that was a joke! In fact some people with epilepsy have visual triggers, like you’ve probably heard of photosensitive epilepsy which is triggered not only by strobe lights and similar, but also particular repetitive visual patterns, (even types of music!) so in a rare case it could actually happen! But btw epilepsy is not a mental illness, this is just about where in the brain the seizures start, if it’s in the bit that recognises patterns that could be a trigger, that’s all. Even audible patterns! These clothes are dangerous ahahahaha

[@kellypat125]

Thanks for the video... I don't see any evidence of Les Brown dying, though. Assuming there isn't two well known guys with that name

[@LolaGeek]

Yeah, that was my mistake, I made a note in the video description 🙈

[@kellypat125]

@@LolaGeek it's all good :)

[@n.b.1483]

Articulate and balanced. Sorry it was a rough experience. To be honest the clothing looks hideous - you did the best you could with it

[@LolaGeek]

LOL, thank you 😆

[@blondegirl5]

M..L..M..stands for Masses Losing Money 💰..😬

[@sergioantonio2510]

Great content and ignore the mean comments. Some people just don’t have anything nice to say 😊.

[@LolaGeek]

No worries, I don't take them personally 😆 Thanks for watching!

[@MargoMartin1]

I never could understand why so many women went nuts over these ugly unflattering clothes. So distasteful.

[@LolaGeek]

Margo, you may also enjoy this video where I look at a year's worth of my LLR outfit selfies: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4WqgmyKlqdsn6c