Lump jaw or abscess in Cattle

[@diggetydogdoggetydoo]

Thank you for that explanation at the end about how an abscess progresses. and thank you for your bold faith. God Bless

[@cybco]

Lump jaw can occur from a cracked tooth by chomping on a hard material. The tooth root/tip nerve has live blood nutrition that gets attacked by bacteria once tooth is cracked. Then pus kicks in and has no way to go. Over time the body will develop a fuser to drain the pus sack most of the time after the tooth nerve is dead and most times the tooth will actually fall out too. The abscess is basically a bag of dead white cells called pus used to attach and control the bacteria growth incased in a membrane bag developed by the body fighting the bacteria. That bag is what you saw plugging up the drain incision. I thought you did an absolute beautiful job on the cow. Hope she appreciates her owner.

[@sewmeonekenobi639]

Such a pretty animal.

[@tiffanyholman4028]

That cow yelled at you, no question. He was so mad he straight up yelled at you. Lol 😆

[@beckyworthen2012]

Bwahahaha....

[@LaynieFingers]

He was definitely swearing in cow...

[@toddcaskey9984]

If you ever make any more cattle mats can you do a video on how you make them. Great video good job

[@BacktotheBasics101]

Absolutely and thank you for the good idea.

[@canislupis3129]

Agreed, it’s a cool device and should make the entitled on here happy because you recycle

[@kaloyanivanov2801]

Be angry sin not! God bless you brother and your family and the farm you have!

[@kathyk479]

He's a sweet baby!! Don't send him to freezer camp if you didn't have to!

[@charlesa.reidiiiesq.2342]

Totally thought the guy was helping an animal live. Nope, making dinner.

[@berserk1934]

You say this while you eat meat lol.

[@rebekataylor4343]

You don't want to breed him, then there no purpose for them on a farm. Cow are not pets there livestock, there food, shoe, purses, belts ECT.

[@annaanderson8456]

Cows are always female. Bulls are male.

[@chloeshann8142]

You really don't comprehend that these aren't puppies. You can't just keep livestock for fun. The expense, time, space... you just can't do it. I know it's hard to comprehend for people who know nothing about farming

[@tnxdfan1]

Thanks for the knowledge and experience you share!

[@BacktotheBasics101]

Well I try.😉

[@cynthiarogers2904]

GOD BLESS YOUR HERDS !!!

[@JohnnyUmphress]

You're a good rancher. God has greatly blessed you with knowledge and wisdom. May He continue to bless you and your family.

[@BacktotheBasics101]

I am blessed, but just like anybody I focus on all the stuff I don’t know. Thank you for the kind words, happy trails.

[@kourtneybueckert6842]

I like your confidence when working with him.

[@jackfrost1460]

Hi good video 👍🏻 ! Years ago we use to get those same lumps in r cows and we would drain the same way! An old style vet told us to feed organic iodine to the cows but u needed to feed more then they would free choice . We feed silage and would sprinkle the organic iodine over the feed in r mixer wagon . It was a powder. I’d say it prevented a lot of the lumps because after we started doing it never had many after that! You do have to watch with bred cows that u don’t over feed it thou they can abort from it . We had about 80 cows and I think we feed about a pound a day or every other day depending we didn’t feed silage everyday 😎

[@anniewhiddon2316]

You may not be a vet, but you handled it just like one. Great job

[@strategygalactic]

You and I both know that is bullshit. Leave it to the pros.

[@aliceveil622]

Yikes on that last part! Thanks for the education bit!

[@stevecobb7844]

As hard as you work to raise cattle, pick out the best you have to eat. You deserve it. I like your videos and your style.

[@antr7493]

That mat is pretty cool.

[@dawnmarieminton6222]

Excellent learning video,

[@IRISHSALTMINER61]

Osteomyelitis (OM) is an infection of bone.[1] Symptoms may include pain in a specific bone with overlying redness, fever, and weakness.[1] The long bones of the arms and legs are most commonly involved in children, while the feet, spine, and hips are most commonly involved in adults.[2

[@BacktotheBasics101]

You should spend some time with your veterinarian, then you’ll know what I did is pretty common procedure. Or you could go hug a tree and kiss a frog. Everybody’s an expert on the Internet you know.

[@FreeAmerican-mm2my]

@@BacktotheBasics101 I did not take Irish as being negative or hostile.

[@LibertyGarden]

Thanks. Good to know.

[@daemonthorn5888]

An abscess does not turn into cancer. And it doesn't turn to bone, either. It calcifies. That does not mean it's bone. Those examples you showed are abnormal bone growth due to bone infections.

[@BacktotheBasics101]

According to my veterinarians and abscess does turn in to those pictures that I showed. I know it’s not cancer but it kind of acts like a type of cancer. It’s a bad infection that attaches itself to the bone that does what you just said. I didn’t break it down into technical terms but hopefully in a term analogy that people understand. You are correct

[@tamarawalther4524]

I love God's word! 💖

[@WindersRanger]

He sure didn't care for that much. Working cows with a friend of mine back east, he had a bull calf that needed banded. Unfortunately between work and other stuff we didn't get to him right away and by the time we did he was three or four months old and almost too big to handle. So big in fact we had to get a bigger bander that would fit his bullocks in. We learned or at least I learned a valuable lesson that day, get the calves early.

[@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin]

Well.. at least that was still liquid!! Smell tube would most likely still offend most people's noses a bit. Those are nice trays!! We use one for all the calf shots, tags and tattoo equipment. We just treated a cow with a new calf that popped up with an abscess under her jaw.. 105.1° temp!! Just blood filled tissues. Figure she has a bad tooth and it deteriorated a vessel.. seems like we caught it soon enough!! Thanks for the video!

[@kathryndowling4396]

Gosselin Farms Ed Gosselin c

[@dianarandall4087]

He is beautiful 🥺

[@2901nc]

Much respect !

[@catlamp4135]

Did you sterilize the the incision site? The knife? Did you explore the wound and brake up any possible loculations? Did you flush the cavity out with iodine, or anything? Why do you believe your likely dull, multi functional pocket knife is less painful than a very sharp edged scalpel? Just curious if I happened to miss it.

[@BacktotheBasics101]

I did all of those things. Obviously you have not a lot of experience in agriculture.

[@catlamp4135]

@@BacktotheBasics101 you are correct. My only experience with agriculture is when I go to the produce department of Krogers. That's why I was asking. 😅

[@COMB0RICO]

I had no idea. You should write a book about all these things, even the pugging tire mat. Thanks from Texas!

[@BacktotheBasics101]

You’re kind, you wear a lot of different hats when you’re Ranching, are you still considering getting into ranching?

[@julianfilbersheers1195]

Thank. for Video.

[@kaynev2010]

Hi, thank you for this video and for what you do everyday to feed the world! Would you say there’s any hope for the cow after it turns hard? Any information about after it turns hard is much appreciated. I started working with a herd after this problem had set in, a very nice young 4 year old cow with her calf has this, I’d like to help her but it’s already hard AND soft in places. Please advise with your experience and thank you.

[@BacktotheBasics101]

I would consult your veterinarian, but if there was anything to do if caught early enough it would be very expensive. It’s best to harvest the animal in my opinion.

[@1Vapersianprincess]

I hate the city, I've always wanted to live on a small farm, you are blessed 💚 & 🙏From Va Beach Virginia

[@theSpoodStop]

What ever happened to this lil guy? Did u ever end up sticking him in ur freezer? Poor lil fella. I admire your hard work, the way you live ,out in nature, self reliant. So awesome. >

[@JilldeHal]

Self reliant and full of disease...

[@garyb4929]

A good video, something most if any folks don't run across. I don't miss smell,lol. like the tire idea, wish I'd thought of that back in day.

[@georgenastase4664]

Hello !! Like your videos with your cattle’s !!! What is the story with the ears of the calf ? They are very small, is the first time when I see like that ! I guess they don’t have problems in the winter time ?! Is the single one from your herd with ears like that or is just a common thing selected by you ?

[@SarahJB288]

that must have felt massively better with the pressure gone

[@normacotter3377]

Ain't he beautiful

[@annettecasals]

Why not water and creoline, instead of pinesol

[@HomesteadingtheHardWay]

Do you think he is an actual genetic dwarf ? Good information BTW

[@BacktotheBasics101]

You know I don’t know, his mama was a party girl and got bread when she wasn’t supposed to. Ended up calving in the middle of winter as I recall so he’s always been stunted.

[@HomesteadingtheHardWay]

@@BacktotheBasics101 just curious we had a couple of dwarves years ago ,had to get rid of our bull and cull the cows . Recessive genes

[@Lukie2131]

Lmao this is funny he's 2 years old but looks like a calf

[@richardperez5779]

During the video and after you cleaned up the abscess .You mentioned the dogs clean up some the mess by eating the drainage. So if the dogs eat the infection drainage from the abscess wouldn't the dogs get some type of infection from eating it...

[@joanbook9401]

I was confused, does the bull have bony lump jaw, or a soft tissue abcess? The jaws you showed definitely looked like there has been an infection in the bone.

[@paularchuleta8266]

Done that many times little harder on pigs great video

[@jeffarp7409]

Hey you're supposed to milk the other end. Lol

[@nuskistackz820]

Nice video

[@sandraolaya7909]

Quisiera preguntarle,lo hacen sin anestesia, porque yo veo que cuando los cortan para drenar ellos saltan y se mueven por dolor

[@marilynrobertson6265]

Just found you, I love your christian ways. God bless you and yours

[@russellking9762]

arrrghh....well done on the draining but absolutely don't let your dogs ingest that...Lord Bless you bro

[@judithsantos766]

Gracias por mostrar lo que ocurre en los huesos de estos animales por esta enfermedad. Es impresionante. Núnca había visto algo. Gracias por compartir. Un nuevo conocimiento para mí. Saludos.

[@pippippin1854]

Did he have anemia or is his tongue suppose to be pale ??

[@davedronski7749]

So that's where cottage cheese comes from!😲

[@rennigaderedd9483]

He doesn't need to be in someone's freezer, he needs to be loved, and someone's pet..

[@CSAccetura]

Nah

[@rennigaderedd9483]

@@CSAccetura I beg to differ, but it isn't it nice that people can have different opinions, and still be civil?

[@chloeshann8142]

Do you have any idea the amount of money, space, time, work involved to keep an animal like this as a pet? You cannot run a farm that way. These are not pets, no matter how much you want to imagine they are

[@rennigaderedd9483]

@@chloeshann8142 I'm not imaging, and I happen to know full well how much the upkeep for cows are, because I had an uncle who raised them. I don't believe in any animal being in someone's freezer, but it's nice to hear different opinions, but I hold to mine.

[@rebeccalynn2228]

I absolutely agree. He should be loved and taken care of. Unless of course he personally requested and signed off to be bread and to be killed.

[@AaricHale]

That's some pretty rough stuff to deal with . I could almost smell it coming through my laptop lol .

[@ccpperrett7522]

Be angry and sin not. Good reminder.

[@rosiehawtrey]

Shame the Inbredistani version is more like "Be angry, and mag dump".

[@patriciamartinez5836]

Poor baby. This was really informative

[@sistahspeaks9816]

Because he’s little y’all gonna eat him 😢

[@chakra531]

What if it is rock hard abscess?

[@margaretmcneil7182]

Don’t put him in your freezer!

[@paddypenman2682]

What else is it going to do with its life, swim with dolphins?

[@RachaelHful]

@@paddypenman2682 😂😂😂

[@blondicannuk42]

@@paddypenman2682 haha

[@chloeshann8142]

You did know he isn't a puppy. They aren't pets and their purpose is to provide food

[@nicoleredhage9823]

Why not?

[@Kpimpmaster]

I’m not sure if he’s pissed or hurting or both

[@rebeccalynn2228]

He's scared because it hurts. It is ultimately good for him. But what is ultimately bad and inhumane for him is that he is going to get killed. Why ? Because people want to believe this is necessary, and it's not. Why look at the truth when everything feels fine, dandy and traditional. Its really sad.

[@Kpimpmaster]

@@rebeccalynn2228 what are you talking about?

[@rebeccalynn2228]

@@Kpimpmaster That we don't need to eat a cow like that to survive

[@Kpimpmaster]

@@rebeccalynn2228 that’s unrelated

[@rhondalundy550]

What is the most common cause of these?

[@patrickwagenecht9822]

Have you ever dealt with cancer in the eyes of your Herefords?

[@karenschneider4267]

you needed too open the hole bigger ! Didn't need to hear the freezer talk after doing this procedure!!

[@chloeshann8142]

Awww... did the freezer talk hurt your little feelings. Lol

[@jinxu00769]

DO NOT KILL THAT POOR BABY!! BLESS HIS HEART! HE LOOKS SO SWEET......THATS SAD! Wish I had the room cause I'd PAY to feed him. Geeeez!

[@chloeshann8142]

Smh🙄. You are clueless. You have to pay for feed, make the space, put in the work and replace the meat he would provide. These aren't puppies. Why is it so hard to comprehend

[@Frimbertrips]

I had no idea an abscess could/would do that to a bone. Those examples look like a dove soap bar after 5 minutes in a microwave.(Or a giant coral chunk) O__O I learned a new thing I am going to tell everyone later.

[@maggieouillette6667]

That lump seems to be an abscess, which is basically a pocket of infection. If left untreated the infection can spread to the bloodstream (called sepsis or septicemia) which can be life threatening and/or spread to the bone (osteomyelitis). The lump doesn’t turn into bone, the infection actually invades the bone and destroys it. Those are the holes you see in the photos of the skulls and jaws. I am not a veterinarian. I am a nurse and have seen many cases where untreated infections basically eat away at the bone.

[@sethmgriffin]

This should have been done by shaving a spot in the area to prepare for lancing. Additionally, this should have been done with a scalpel-the reaction would’ve been less. While the skin is obviously thicker, if it’s prepared carefully, a scalpel is much more humane and comfortable for the ole gal.

[@BacktotheBasics101]

Perhaps so, a good pocket knife is the ranchers scalpel. The knife can be as sharp as a scalpel. There’s always a lot of room for learning though.

[@sethmgriffin]

@@BacktotheBasics101 Thanks for the reply. I truly enjoyed watching this video. I stuck around and watched a few more. I may disagree with you on the instrument used, but I appreciate the education you provide as well as focusing on your family. Keep it up, sir!

[@camperjack2620]

Thanks, informative!

[@roscrutrin4181]

Q tío más salvaje, en vez d sujetarle la cabeza, anda con esos modales, tirándole d las orejas! Muy mal!!! Es un tipo sin escrúpulos! NO LE VUELVO A VER MÁS!

[@lynnleigha580]

I think that cow forgot how to cow, milk comes out the teets, silly! Lol! Bet he feels better

[@chamarystigers8731]

Thank you for your help cow get pus out from jaw

[@kb7722]

Lumpy jaw is caused by a fungus. Not all abcesses will result in Lumpy jaw. The fungus has to find it's way into a wounded to result in Lumpy jaw. So to say if you don't get to an abscess soon enough that it will turn to bone is not accurate. Most abscesses will not result in Lumpy Jaw. Just because there is a giant lump (abscess) doesn't make it lumpy jaw.

[@FreeAmerican-mm2my]

There can be many causes for an abscess, but Actinomycosis is an infection caused by a bacterium of the genus Actinomyces, usually Actinomyces bovis. Since you do not know the cause of an abscess, it should be examined and treated if possible. If it is Actinomycosis and you wait too long, you will have limited cost effective options.

[@lalmuansangachhakchhuak2132]

Milking a cow from the Jaw🤣🤣

[@jillmoisan1276]

I did watch your video. I'm an animal lover so some of these videos are sad to me. When you said the dogs come and basically lick up after the drainage, doesn't that make them sick????

[@BacktotheBasics101]

Actually doesn’t make them sick, dogs are very well-adjusted for eating things like that.

[@biggunna8863]

He str8 up ran out that cage lol

[@faazafridi1345]

Scarlet oil or iodine works good ۔ Lumpy Jaw

[@fargolargopants1694]

The fact you said freezer and hamburger after stabbing the poor thing breaks my heart. I'm sorry I know thats what farmers do and say but that little cutie should be left to live a happy life

[@canislupis3129]

Then skip this and look for tree huggers.

[@brendamckinsey2447]

Then you shouldn’t be watching farm videos. You have no clue about the food chain

[@canislupis3129]

@@brendamckinsey2447 Look to the beam in your eye before the speck in your neighbors. Paraphrase

[@chloeshann8142]

Sweetie, you really don't get it. The cost, the space, the amount of work, the loss of meat for just one, not to mention every "little cutie". You CANNOT successfully farm on emotion

[@rebeccalynn2228]

@@chloeshann8142 Then stop and create a new career path. Farm chick peas , soy beans, Oats. Have some empathy for gods sake. There are other things you can eat. Who told you to harvest livestock ?

[@sweet68pea]

DO YOU KNOW THAT THE BULL YOU HAD WAS PART HEREFORDSHIRE UK

[@CarollFord2019]

Aww don’t put him in the freezer. He is so sweet.😢

[@chloeshann8142]

They aren't puppies, dear. Don't be ridiculous

[@cyndibrewster1125]

Use a surgical scalpel. This knife is not an appropriate tool and causes excess pain.

[@BacktotheBasics101]

Let me get this right, a razor sharp knife, or a doll scalpel. That was my options. Looking forward to your video that you put together for free so everybody can be a skeptic of everything you do in real life scenarios. Seriously, stop being a critic the world has enough of them. Don’t be the guy that yells at somebody else when they cut you off in traffic and then you do with the same thing next week. I hope you have a merry Christmas, I can pick a part anybody or anything I choose not to.

[@rue2003]

why not use a scalpel, it looked so painful with that knife...

[@BacktotheBasics101]

Well, the knife I used was as sharp as a scalpel. The scalpel is a great choice. I just didn’t have one at the time when I was doing this I had one it was just very dull.

[@abdellahgogop5653]

for the bull, it seems to be an abscess (for example an abscess of CL) not a pyogranumole actinomycosis (lympy jaw desease) , you are a farmer?

[@chloeshann8142]

Smh🙄

[@johnfolsom9682]

Why didn’t you give the animal anesthesia or something for pain?

[@lmiller1413]

Perhaps the same reason the animal is going to the freezer?????

[@wolfbad6502]

Fun fact about abscesses its actually really hard to inject anything for the pain, you have this big pocket of liquid between where the needle goes in and where the drugs need to go to work.

[@chloeshann8142]

@@lmiller1413 smh🙄.

[@chloeshann8142]

It does not work for cattle. It would only cause added stress

[@sfreil5191]

Would a razor be better than a knife to lance it?

[@chloeshann8142]

No

[@getlauriekor]

Don’t let the dog eat that. It can have staph in it. What are you thinking.

[@BacktotheBasics101]

Honestly what I’m thinking is you don’t have much experience on a ranch.

[@keithhaley1976]

A bit rough! Whatever happened to using a scalpel?!

[@chloeshann8142]

Cows have tough skin and he had a sharp knife that worked just fine. It wasn't rough at all

[@chantalepick3691]

Are you a vet? Or are you an experienced farmer?

[@christinecoulon7123]

C'est honteux il existe des anesthésié pour faire ces pratique en plus avec un couteau HONTEUX

[@bernadettesmith3261]

I really think you are great at what you do and such a very kind man.... but the statement that he may need to go in the freezer for hamburger meat hurt my soul....but I am a meat eater which makes me a hypocrite but I could never know and help my dinner. 🤔😮 does that make sense?

[@BacktotheBasics101]

I appreciate your honesty, I look at it like this if you vote for the death penalty but say you couldn’t pull the switch, you did pull the switch by your vote. You just paid somebody else to do it. A lot of people have never hunted or harvested their own meat. But when you do there’s a deep appreciation for it, and for the life that sacrificed for your own. I’ve always tried to respect and honor anything that I have harvested.

[@Gurl-5150]

Pain killer?????.

[@patremagilbert8787]

Cute cow.

[@teresapotvien4152]

Why in the hell would you say that. Put in the freezer. You make me sick

[@BacktotheBasics101]

You get sick very easily, we just had him processed two weeks ago and he is delicious.

[@chloeshann8142]

Lol.... what do you think happens to cattle on a ranch? Seriously grow up

[@samanthaspencermccurry9798]

I guess it would make u poor to keep him

[@kevinklingner3098]

I haven't seen that in forty years. But then I'm out with the cattle all the time and the sheep s it is dealt with quickly.

[@ArchitecturalDetails]

How can you raise animals and not have vinyl gloves? Water is not an antiseptic.

[@BacktotheBasics101]

I have gloves but I don’t know I would use them on that particular case my hands didn’t get dirty. And I disinfected everything around The puncture wound and the tool are used. Disinfectant is disinfectant for the most part. That was not water it was disinfectant.

[@Andy-qo6rq]

How about using a scalpel which is sharp instead of a knife as it looked blunt the force you had to use to cut the skin as you might go into deep.

[@BacktotheBasics101]

If I was a doctor I probably would, but I’m a rancher with a very sharp pocket knife. Most the time this process is done with a rope and a horse out in the middle of the Prairie, there is not much time to go get a scalpel.

[@oneseeker2]

Maybe u could be human burger in freezer!

[@BacktotheBasics101]

That’s a nice thing to say.

[@chloeshann8142]

Sociopath

[@JudeNance]

He is not a happy baby.

[@Aljoy]

What address should I send the scalpels to and have you put your pocketknife away.

[@BacktotheBasics101]

Could you please explain to me the difference? Except that my pocket knife is a lot sharper and works a lot faster. I have scalpels, purposely did not use it because of the application.

[@chloeshann8142]

You really don't know how tough cowhide is

[@KQuinn672]

Poor baby😰

[@emlo9103]

also put the head in the halter and tie it to the clamp one way prevents head from moving holy crap

[@BacktotheBasics101]

You’re welcome to come on out and show me how to do it anytime you’d like, generally with animals less than 1000 pounds you can just told them, I keep forgetting I got Gilian beret and not as strong as I once was.

[@emlo9103]

@@BacktotheBasics101 thats alright we all get old. Its just so you dont get hurt is all. An old saying in my family.Mann wurt to soon alt and too late schmart. lol

[@chloeshann8142]

@@emlo9103 there's an old saying in my family... giving unsolicited advice is obnoxious

[@emlo9103]

@@chloeshann8142 yeah thats Your family not mine

[@cynthiarogers2904]

You disinfect with WATER ???

[@BacktotheBasics101]

Oh actually I didn’t, i’m not even gonna tell you what I disinfected with you can rewatch the video and be offended yet again. Looking forward to your how to video where you can have a bunch of know what all people that sit on their couch and watch things instead of do things and criticize everything they’ve never done. Do you have a great day probably criticizing somebody else on KZbin, nice career are you got going on there.

[@michaelvarney.]

So… update… how’d he taste?

[@lindacusano9099]

I don’t understand how farmers can let these things go so long? These animals are your life. It’s obvious from some of the photo’s they’ve been suffering a long time.

[@judithkstephens8564]

So true ... and I see more and more of these videos so I’m just wondering what is in our beef that we buy from the store. Do we have abscesses and Lumpjaw and everything else? 🤮🤮

[@chloeshann8142]

You don't know anything about cattle. These things happen very quickly. I have been a farmer my whole life and I've had cattle that were just fine and 48 hours later had an abscess that I'm sure you would say had obviously been there a long time.