Lunar Sabbath Biblical or PAGAN?

[@blueskyscubanut]

The bible mentions New Moon Days in about 25% of the references to Sabbaths. See how Constantine changed the calendar when he made Christianity "legal".

[@YareahLilly]

“And Elohiym said, Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for appointed feasts, and for days, and years: BERE'SHIYTH (GENESIS) 1:14 את CEPHER “He made the moon also to serve in her season for a declaration of times, and a sign of the world. From the moon is the sign of feasts, a light that decreases in her perfection.” SIRACH (ECCLESIASTICUS) 43:6-7 את CEPHER “All the time that the moon is in progress with its light, it is poured in the presence of the sun, until light is in fourteen days completed in heaven. And when it is wholly extinguished, its light is consumed in heaven; and on the first day it is called the New Moon, for on that day light is received into it.” CHANOK (ENOCH) 78:13-14 את CEPHER “Blow the shofar on the dark New Moon today on our solemn feast. For this was a statute for Yashar'el, and a law of the Elohiym of Ya`aqov.” TEHILLIYM (PSALMS) 81:3-4 את CEPHER There are plenty of examples of the moon being used to measure the times. Before there were modern calendars, all we could do was look up. Just because Heathens used the moon to observe their times doesn’t mean the children of Israel did not do the same. Moses threw down his staff and it became a snake and Pharaoh’s servants did the same. 🤷🏽‍♀️ I think the reason why there is confusion here as to whether this is truly biblical or pagan is because it’s being done incorrectly, but when done correctly it actually flows perfectly from month to month. There are no “non days,” or “extra-days.” That simply comes from trying to mix in the Gregorian calendar. I’d be careful to call this one Pagan Lex. Keep digging. The journey on this one can’t be concluded just yet.

[@eitan367]

Yep, and on the same note, the Messiah told us to look UP as redemption draws near. Lex that doesn't mean the sky, it means the moon!

[@godspeed7717]

The book of Enoch and the Book of Jubilees doesn't agree with Ecclesiastes. Kindly reed other New moon scenarios as *New Month.* The translation issue. But I do not know why Ecclesiastes talks like that. Jubilee's said it clearly about not using the moon.

[@godspeed7717]

@Nothing New Under The Sun New moon is the feast day. The calendar is based on Sun alone.

[@aztecwarrior5642]

Elohiym is not THE LORD GOD. Elohiym is plural and that is not the"trinity!" Elohiym is the leader of the fallen ones Strongs 430

[@godspeed7717]

@@aztecwarrior5642 Elohim is a title literally translated to gods. There is no trinity. He is one.

[@mishpatpetra5955]

Seeing that it’s recorded in history that the Greeks and Romans noticed Israel rested the Sabbath every week and decided to attack them on “Saturn-Day” seems like pretty straightforward evidence to me that we are figuring out new things to argue about. Good Job Lex

[@mishpatpetra5955]

@@LightSeekers777 And then there’s the Bible, Josephus, modern languages and Talmud that point to Shabbat falling on the same day Saturday. Encyclopedias are updated every time they come out with a new addition. If it was all the way back then, it probably had a lot of funny stuff in there. You don’t have to, use what ever calendar you wish. But, Shabbat is determined on a 7 day continuous cycle. Laid out constantly in the Bible every time that command is given. Roman generals lay out multiple times that Judea did this weird thing that coincided with Saturn Day, where they rest from all Activity and don’t bother to pick up weapons. So they attacked them on Saturday multiple times

[@ronallens6204]

Interestion observation but may i correct one point in your assumption. The romans kept as calender that was different than the jews if theur time. The modern calendar is based on the roman calendar and have kept the pagan names and days and reconning.. u can study more on this, but even though rome attacked on THEIR saturns day, on that specific day and year coincided with the isreal sabbath, who used a different calendar. The calendar if israel has always been a sore spot for pagans because they wanted everyone to be on the same calendar. The last temple high priest modified the original calendar to coincide with the pagan calendar to try to fit in with the pagans. Because if this, God has punished them over and over, even bringing them back to the land because of His name, not because they are righteous. God said the keeping of the sabbath was a mark of who belonged to HIM, and He does not change.

[@mishpatpetra5955]

@@ronallens6204 I understand this, the world calls the 7th day Saturday, I call it Shabbat in conversation. My only point is Shabbat falls every 7th day, no matter your calendar or what you call it. Right now, and ever since Greek times, Shabbat has coincided with the Saturday on the GrecoRoman calendar.

[@mishpatpetra5955]

@@LightSeekers777 the new moon indicates a new month, weekly sabbath is determined on a 7 day continuous basis

[@mishpatpetra5955]

month and moon are similar in Hebrew and Seven and Week are similar in Hebrew

[@truthnottradition7]

I've been studying this subject. Using the Bible alone I simply to NOT see the 7th day sabbath to be timed based on the moon. Also, Yeshua kept the 7th day Sabbath with Israel. That repeating weekly cycle has not changed since. I'm going to follow His lead on this one. Shalom

[@wydopnthrtl]

To further support this teaching, consider that the weekly Sabbath / 7th day of the week was kept by Yeshua AND that reoccuring 7th day has not changed since he kept it. Col 2:6 " Therefore as you have received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in Him"

[@wydopnthrtl]

@@LightSeekers777 Wrong.. Julian cal was in place before He was here and the gregorian cal only tweaked it. And as for knowing He kept the Sabbath... you are either a complete liar, don't believe the Bible, or you've never read it.

[@godspeed7717]

@@LightSeekers777 The time and calendar are changed after the apostles. Israelites forget their calendar. Messiah had all the festivals mentioned in the old covenant. In the new covenant, there are no festivals that need to be celebrated. Even if you do so, it's not a sin. But people already lost the calculation on days. I guess no one remembers to keep the Sabbath holy today.

[@godspeed7717]

@@wydopnthrtl God has his own calendar, the Israelites never used a pagan calendar at that time.

[@godspeed7717]

@@LightSeekers777 Yes, I know. I said it's not mandatory to celebrate all the festivals. And no one does so. Do you?

[@godspeed7717]

It's our choice. We have to accept him as savior. And the Holy Spirit will help those who accept him to live in a good way. Jesus and Yeshua is not his name. @@LightSeekers777

[@grahamclarke8986]

Nobody had iPhones or watches in Biblical times. The moon was created to be a universal monthly time keeper. The word moon means month. The new moon determined the start of the month and calendar days were counted from there.

[@stopandeat]

ameyn!

[@Shiryone]

This is our understanding as well. We are so looking forward to Messiah uniting us in all things in His Kingdom!

[@camilla6110]

HalleluYHWH! ☺️🙌🏻

[@TheGreatIAM1]

Amin.

[@karenc7476]

Can't wait to see you there! May we remain humble, teachable, and obedient to Yah and not doctrines of men until then.

[@Shiryone]

@@karenc7476 Ahmen! 🙂

[@Psychiatrick]

Yes ... JeZEUS .. to HELL with Heavenly Father! Heavenly Father has no authority over JeZEUS

[@rhoelstodomingo6262]

In EZK 46:1 It says there that the gate in the inner court should be shut in the 6 working days but it should be open in the new moon and on the Sabbath so thats a total of 8 days and mentioning 3 categories of days. and not 2 only like the 7 uninterrupted continuous days. My question is if the New Moon somehow landed in the middle of the 7 continuous day cycle then is the gate going to be open or shut?

[@Zae_thoven]

Not possible. New Moon = Rosh Chodesh (ראש חודש) literally means Head of the Month, so it can't fall in the middle if it's at the Beginning. If it does, it's because it's put against another calendar like the Gregorian. You can't commingle the original with the substitute and get the proper projection or perspective.

[@Psychiatrick]

Look up: fourteenth day of Nissan ... when is the first month?

[@denisestacey3681]

Amen to that so true. I know that one & is important to God! 😄

[@23whatsleft]

remember "rishon chodesh" the "first of your moons" that great creator told yisrayl. and pesach(passover) is always on the fifteenth day of this first moon, that is always a full moon.

[@denisestacey3681]

@23whatsleft Your right few pay attention or even care. It's ashame,I do.

[@bawbjusbawb6471]

Thanks Lex. Since finding "Christian videos" on YT, I have never encountered so many people who speak and believe so much nonsense. As a young man, I thought people who went to "churches" were really knowledgeable about GOD. In the brief period I actually attended church, I found my previous beliefs totally wrong. Most churchmen believe a bunch of nonsense that is either not in the Bible or something that was twisted from snippets of Paul's letters. Even when you do a word for word study with them, they still will not let go of erroneous doctrines they were taught. For my Wife and me, the first piece in the "church of cards" was the observing the 7th Day Sabbath. Whew, Baptists don't wanna let go of SUNday. And they certainly don't want to be "under the law" lest they be cursed! I don't know where they got this nonsense from. Obey God's Commandments and you will be BLESSED/Disobey God's Commandments and you will be CURSED. That's what is written in my Bibles! After leaving "the church", much independent study and watching videos like yours as well as 119 Ministries, Monte Judah, Triumph in Truth and Rood Awakening, I have a pretty good handle on the truth and how "churchmen" have perpetuated SO MANY grievous lies. Even more lies can be found when you look at "church history" and what was said by so-called "church fathers"! And now upon coming into the Messianic Belief, I have unfortunately encountered just as many flawed teachings and beliefs not based on the Scriptures. (People can't even agree on the Names and many INSIST they are the only ones who know and if you don't say the Names their way, you somehow are sorely misled and even possibly worshipping some pagan false god.) The first time I heard about the Lunar Sabbath, I though someone was pulling my leg. Nope, people actually believe this nonsense and will fight you over it! I will be so happy when Yeshua returns to set all of this straight. From the Names, to the Calendars to how to PROPERLY observe the Moedim. Be Blessed and continue to help us all "Unlearn the Lies"!

[@rockifields]

I am right there with you and feel 100% how you’re saying.

[@gilbertoventura9730]

nobody can prove Pope/Emperor Constantine continuous 7 day cycle is from the bible!

[@targetedindividualsrq8538]

Micheal Rood is a fraud. You've probably figured that out by now.

[@JahRootsRadio]

Bruh 👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾 You dear friend said exactly what I’ve experienced on the church side and the messianic side. Just yesterday I got so discouraged trying to reason with a brother still in the church swamp. He wouldn’t let go of the swampiness 🤣 church lies and doctrines. I started feeling like Jeremiah when he said I will no longer speak I’ll keep my mouth shut cause no one’s listening ugggggh 😞 Overall I’m learning at the end of the day I must give men room to do their walk and only share with those that are open.

[@targetedindividualsrq8538]

The Sabbath is lunar (not Gregorian). So the feasts float around the Gregorian calendar.. but the Sabbaths do not? It just keeps getting better.

[@Zae_thoven]

One thing I know, our current calendar in use is pagan. There's no way around its deception and decrepitness. You can't keep a Yah-given Shabbat on a man-made, pagan calendar. Make that make sense? Times and laws changed is exactly what Daniel 7:25 talks about. Which is why our time keeping elements are in the heavens where we don't have access, because the attempt to change may be factual, i.e. days of the week, months of the year, removal of festivals new moon observation and inserting pagan holidays, juxtaposing the beginning of the year-- but the truth can't be tampered with. Not by finite men. It was made for us, not by us.

[@stopandeat]

ameyn

[@normajeanslagel4633]

So honest question here... If Saturday is sabbath always, and no fire can be kindled and nonfood.may be cooked, what do you do when passover lands on Saturday. Do you break the sabbath rule of not fire or cooking? Or the passover rule to roast your land over fire??

[@Psychiatrick]

Where can I find: "Saturday" in the Bible?

[@waffleone3]

Its just not there.

[@waffleone3]

Kindling a fire means starting a fire. Wood I has to be gathered. Split to make kindling. It is time consuming to start a fire. One may also need to fan the fire to get it started or to assist with additional oxygen by blowing on it. It creates more smoke than a fire already started. Ask yourself this: in the winter months, how would you heat your home if no fire was allowed on sabbath? Also, there is a commanded sacrifice for sabbath day. How do you sacrifice without a fire? So there must be a difference between kindling a fire and keeping a fire going by throwing additional fuel on it from time to time. Right?

[@primalway1]

Just watch cat videos for the day ...then repent the next day and keep it moving...

[@DaughterofYAH1111]

Thank you this is very helpful for clarification, very thorough and complete!

[@shilohlee11]

You have not mentioned anything concerning the New moon day mentioned in scriptures concerning this day. It mentions 6 work days ,sabbath, new moon.Ezk 46:1. 6days+2days =8 days. So where do you count a new moon according to scripture? Because it’s mention all over scripture to be kept.

[@waffleone3]

If you do a Bible study for all the verses containing seventh day or sabbath, you will find 12 or 13 verses that contain both new moon and sabbath. There has to be a connection! This is what originally prompted me to pray for more info on the new moons, and to learn the truth about the sabbath's and the lunar calendar! Hallelujah!

[@Psychiatrick]

The New Moon starts the month. The illuminations announce the Sabbath day. New Moon is day 1. Add 7 illuminations is the 8th day. Add 7 to the 15th add 7 to the 22nd add 7 to the 29th. Removing the New Moon: 7, 14, 21, 28. This is VERY important as when Trump turns the screws on We the PERSONS it is what Matthew writ: Pray not to have to flea in the winter and not to flea on the Sabbath. We the People will 'round up We the PERSONS on God's Sabbath day. The Pagans will flea on God's Sabbath and get slaughtered ... we flea the next day while the Patriots and Christians are being processed.

[@katherineirons6245]

@@waffleone3 so when do you celebrate your sabbath? My husband and I are trying to get a clear understanding as well. Thank you!

[@tarafox6618]

@@shilohlee11 be sure to look at the hebrew word used in those verses. Sometimes it should be interpreted 'month'.

[@bawbjusbawb6471]

It would seem to me that since these things were stated by "the mother church" and illegitimate "church fathers", we all know EXACTLY what day the TRUE Sabbath is. Brothers and Sisters, let's talk about the Council of Laodicea - 364 AD: We have easily found information on Constantine and the Sabbath. One of the goals of this council was to discourage Sabbath keeping in the Eastern Roman Empire during this time; most Christians in the East still observed the Sabbath. The canons, or final conclusions issues by council, confirm this detail. We have some quotes below: “Canon 16: The Gospels are to be read on the Sabbath [i.e. Saturday], with the other Scriptures. Canon 29: Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday, but shall work on that day; but the Lord’s day they shall especially honour, and, as being Christians, shall if possible, do no work on that day. If, however, they are found Judaizing, they shall be shut out from Christ. Canon 37: No one shall accept festal presents from Jews and heretics, or keep the festivals with them.” The Romans knew all too well what day it was and so did the "Christians" who still obeyed YeHoVaH's instructions. An interesting side note is that when "the Lord's Day" is mentioned in the Scriptures, it's the day of GOD's wrath... It is NEVER stated that it is a day to worship "Jesus"...

[@JustinMacsMoon]

“And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith יהוה.” (Isa 66:23, RNKJV) “Thus saith the Sovereign יהוה; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the Sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.” (Eze 46:1, RNKJV) Looking at Ezekiel, the gate stay shut for 6 working days but on the Sabbath and New Moon, it is open. Since new moon is day one (gate open), then afterwards, 6 working days (gate close), then Sabbath (gate open).

[@unlearnthelies]

the gate being open on the day of the new moon does not mean the sabbath is based on the new moon

[@JustinMacsMoon]

@@unlearnthelies Enoch 77:14. "And when it is wholly extinguished, its light is consumed in heaven; and on the first day it is called the new moon, for on that day light is received into it." New Moon receiving its first light is called the 1st day New Moon Day, and with the supports of Ezekiel, the gate open on the first day. Then on for 6 more days of "work" in which gate is closed. Then after that, came the 8th day, Sabbath, gate open.

[@JustinMacsMoon]

@@unlearnthelies Also you cannot assumed that the paganized Pope Gregorian calendar is the right calendar for Sabbath observance. It has a history of interrupting continuing weekly cycle due to international date line. Just saying.

[@eitan367]

"On that day, all flesh shall come to worship Me on the New Moon and the Sabbath". Say what Lex, a celestial calendar for the New Moon and the Gregorian for the other? In the new world? Is a Gregorian calendar going to be available at the bookstore or for download on the Internet for you to see when is Saturday? You must be kidding me.

[@MyChihuahua]

The only New Moon day that is not a 'work day' is the 7th month for Trumpets, a (proclaimed) Sabbath/Feast day. So, New moon days are work days and just like other work days, UNLESS there is a Sabbath (weekly or proclaimed per Lev 23) for it to be open, it is closed. 'From New moon to New moon' = month to month; and 'Sabbath to Sabbath' = yearly (proclaimed) Sabbaths/Feasts.

[@psalmbirdee11824]

Ezekiel 46:1 tells us what the 1st and 30th days are, they are New Moon days. Days on which the gates are open, like the Sabbath days and unlike the 6 working days. A third class of day. I notice you mention Leviticus 23:2 but leave off verse 3 that lists the Sabbaths as the first type of feast days. I've always wondered how come the Sabbaths are being taught based on the continuous cycle of a man made calendar when they are listed as a feast day with the annual feast days reckoned by His holy calendar. Also, how come the two 7 day feasts never mention a mid- feast Sabbath day? Could the Saturday keepers be adding something to His word? I suppose it is very true when it is said we find what we look for. May I suggest you try to prove the Lunar Sabbath and new moon days. If it cannot be proved, then keep your Saturday. If it can be proved.... "When an honest man discovers he is mistaken, he will either cease being mistaken, or he will cease being honest."

[@stopandeat]

Your suspicions are correct according to scripture. Saturday sabbath is a man made sabbath. New moons are well recorded t be a sign of when to start counting you 6 working days. Feel free to inquire I have many scriptural studies on this.

[@nick9407]

The bible mentions 8th days many times. Its symbolic of a "new beginning" or the completion of the 7 day cycle.

[@blueskyscubanut]

We were forced into the pharohsean model of keeping the Sabbath, 325 AD. That's when Christians stopped being persecuted by Rome. Laminations 2:6. New International Version He has laid waste his dwelling like a garden; he has destroyed his place of meeting. The LORD has made Zion forget her appointed festivals and her Sabbaths; in his fierce anger he has spurned both king and priest. The time will come when the true Sabbath is reestablished. Genesis 1:14. New International Version And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, God's calendar is out of our reach. The sky and bible are all we need to determine the Seasons (Sabbaths).

[@wesleyogilvie8105]

God literally said to keep the Sabbath on THE SEVENTH DAY, not on the day of the new moon. It doesn't get any more clear than that.

[@neildavidson3957]

The calendar of Yahuah is based on the sun, moon and the stars. Gregorian, Julian and other calendars are human inventions.

[@eitan367]

God said seventh day on God's calendar not man's.

[@bawbjusbawb6471]

@@LightSeekers777 The SAME calendar they used to calculate the 1st day of the week (their day of worship)? It's not that hard to figure out when the 7th day is based on that. Subtract one day or add five (math). The 1st day (aka Sunday) minus 1= the 7th Day Sabbath (aka Saturday) The 1st day (aka Sunday) plus the next 5 days (aka Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday) = Well, will ya look at that??? the 7th Day Sabbath! Even 2 ways to calculate it... The Gregorian changed the dates, NOT the days of the week. There was continuity the whole time. Did the pagans have 6 days in a week? Possibly 8 or 9 or even 10? No they had 7 days also... Just like YeHoVaH's 7 days in a week. And He DID NOT tell us to start the days of the week over every month. Wow, just wow...

[@AmberRaeLambkin]

YAHSHUA MESSIAH, SAVIOR, just body slammed satan, again. TAKE THAT devil! Bam! HalleluYAH! YAHSHUA THE MESSIAH said See Deuteronomy 29:29. Please read: Deuteronomy 4:2; 12:32, Ecclesiastes 3:14, Revelation 22:18-19. The one keeping a pagan calendar: The calendar that they follow, the government, civil, pagan, calendar, Fri. - Sat. isn't even found in The Torah. However, Shemoth (Exodus) 12:2, is. YAHSHUA MESSIAH SAID read Deuteronomy 29:29. YAHSHUA, YAH: MESSIAH, SAVIOR, ABBA, AV, HEAVENLY FATHER, EL, EL SHADDAI, ELOHIM(GOD), THE CREATOR, THE CREATORS Commanded: Shemoth (Exodus) 12:2 "This New MOON (month) is the beginning of new moonS for you, it is the first New MOON(month) OF THE YEAR for you." ❤ On a new MOON (first visible crescent (sliver) after dark days): YAHSHUA MESSIAH, YAH: Creational Calendar keeping (according to the new moon: first visible sliver after dark days)❤. Feast and Sabbath days according to the new moon (first visible crescent (sliver) after dark days): Sabbath days are 7, 14, 21, 28th days. In the evening, on the western horizon, the new moon (first visible cresent (sliver) after dark days, visible for a short time) and the sun, are both on the western horizon bowing down facing the east. YAHSHUA, YAH: for us: Creational Calendar Keeping. They (some people) never physically (eyes, body, not virtually) observed a moon cycle from first, beginning, crescent (sliver) (first visible crescent, after the dark days) on the western horizon, facing east, to the last crescent (sliver) on the eastern horizon (facing west), then comes the dark days (little stars rule, ELOHIM (GOD) said Light always rules ). See Deuteronomy 29:29 See Hebrews 13:5: YAHSHUA, YAH, YAHWEH MESSIAH, SAVIOR said: Let your way of life be without the love of silver, and be satisfied with what you have. For HE Himself has said, "I will never leave you nor forsake you," "Blow the shofar IN the month, at the full moon for the day of our chag. Tehillim (Psalms) 81:3 There are several reasons that the word keseh must mean full and not concealed moon. First is the fact that the shofar is blown IN the month of the exodus, (not on the New Moon/Rosh Chodesh as many have mistranslated, for ba-chodesh means IN the month, not necessarily new month, or new moon) from Egypt ...... Teshuvah-Repentance The month doesn't start on a dark day (some call conjunction) also, dark days (also called conjunction) is not in the moon cycle: These are not sabbaths: 29th as in 8, 15, 22, (29th dark day (conjunction)). A full moon, or the sun, IS NOT a new moon. The full moon is the middle of the 28 day moon cycle. What's next after dark days....(New MOON, MOON (month), there is no break in a 28 day moon cycle, the end of the moon cycle is like the beginning (crescent (sliver), but on the eastern horizon), then dark days and start all over, first new crescent on the western horizon). Month doesn't start on a dark day (conjunction). YAHSHUA YAH: MESSIAH, SAVIOR, ABBA, AV, HEAVENLY FATHER, EL, EL SHADDAI, ELOHIM(GOD), THE CREATOR, THE CREATORS SAID: "This New MOON (month) is the beginning of new moonS for you, it is the first New MOON (month) OF THE YEAR for you." (first crescent (sliver) after dark days.) Shemoth 12:2. A full moon IS NOT a new moon. It is the middle of the 28 day moon cycle, also, dark days (also called conjunction) is not in the moon cycle: These are not sabbaths: 29th as in 8, 15, 22, (29th dark day). Teshuvah-Repentance

[@AmberRaeLambkin]

No, HE said Shemoth (Exodus) 12:2. That is how we are to keep our entire calendar year.

[@AVBolt]

Ooh calling people out to repent is a bit harsh. They aren't purposefully practicing paganism for the most part. You can't claim to know which day is the true Sabbath by the Gregorian calendar. We are all trying to find Yah's will and do it. It's written that the times would be confusing for us. I don't think judging each other and pointing the Repent Finger really helps anyone.

[@Damian_mtn]

Lex, I just had this discussion and have been diving deep into this. The extra days was def my hang up. But what about these 2 things?: 1. The new moon days. There is a definite command to keep them as rest days. And they where not nailed to the cross as the moon days are just a way to keep time. Paul affirms this in Colossians. 2. If you where on crashed on a deserted island, and where unconscious for a while. How would you know when to keep the Sabbath? There is no provision for that in the more popular method of keeping the Sabbath. I have to admit I am torn between the 2, and the non-provision for keeping the Sabbath I’ve been keeping this far, from the natural world, makes me very suspicious. God ALWAYS makes provision. And the luminaries in the sky set forth from the 4th day of creation were out there exactly to tell time.

[@TheWriterWalker]

Damian_Mtn, I am looking forward to his answer to you.

[@Damian_mtn]

@@TheWriterWalker me too!

[@Rocksbunder]

Good point about the the island scenario. David was expected to be at the kings table for the two new moon days, that would mean they only had four days to work and not six. This alone breaks their six day working cycle. Those two days are new moon days not non-days. Several verses in the Bible back up observing new moon days. Six days the doors to the temple are shut but on the sabbath AND new moon they are open. When a new moon lands on a working day you cannot have doors open and shut. So which command do they follow? In their cycle they have to choose one and ignore the other.

[@Damian_mtn]

@@Rocksbunder yes thats Ezekiel telling us that in chapter 46. And then you look at Amos 8 and it obviously tells us not to do any commerce on a new moon day bc even evil cheating merchants kept it as a sabbath no work day. That’s very interesting about David bc I had not thought about that. I really hope Lex replies to this comment.

[@Rocksbunder]

He quotes they had manna for six days and the sabbath but it does not include the new moon days, he makes it sound as if they would not eat for two days, they had sheep, goats, cattle, pigeons and doves that they ate. Passover, priest portions from the offerings are examples. There is definitely a distinction being made between these three different days, why? We are not told directly. But there are three distinct days mentioned in the Bible. And the new moon plays a key role in determining the other two. And for the other moed.

[@grannysword]

“Gregorian Saturday Sabbath keepers”, please answer this important question. It is very plain in the Bible that the new moon day is the first day, the beginning of God’s months. The Gregorian calendar do not start its months with the new moon day. So, explain to me how can Saturday be God’s true Sabbath day?

[@godspeed7717]

I'm not considering Saturday as the 7th day. It is not because the new moon is the first day of the Month. Lol, the new moon is not the first day of the Month. You should read the Book of Enoch and Jubilees as I said before, the calendar is using Sun alone. By this, you have precisely* 364 days and 12 months every year. But when you start to use the moon for the calendar, you will lose 10 days because the cycle of the moon ends up 354 days. And you need to add 13 th month every 3rd year. The Moon calendar is simply pagan. @grannysword

[@grannysword]

@@godspeed7717 ......... Lol....I find your comment quite laughable too. You say.....”the new moon is not the first day of the Month.” Read 1Samuel 20 to disprove yourself. According to Genesis 1:14, God’s Time/Calendar is the sun, moon and stars, not just the sun only. He said, let the lights in heaven be for DAYS, etc. It is very clear that you put the books of Enoch and Jubilees above the scriptures, Bible.

[@godspeed7717]

@@grannysword Bible is the only collection of some translations of the Scriptures. Bible is not *The Scripture.* Those who canonised the Bible purposefully not added many books. The Genesis is not a full version, even the Genesis in the Genesis is not in the correct order. The Book of Jubilees was written by Moses in very detail. The Book of Enoch was written by Enoch and it gives more information than any book about heaven and earth. Dude, are you telling me by referring to these verses? *the next day, the second day of the month, David’s place was empty again.* You are only making stuff up. The verse only says that the next day of the new moon feast is the second day of the month. It can happen often. *The first day of the first month of the first year was a new moon.* The course of the Sun is 364 days. The course of the Moon is 354 days. 10 days short. And if you do the math, there will be the first day and the new moon will be on the same day often.* Samuel talks about this event. Not every new moon is the first day of the month. *Sun alone is for time and months and years.* Moon is made for healing purposes, the New moon feast etc.

[@grannysword]

@@godspeed7717 ......... Whaaat!!??? You read 1 Samuel 20 and did not see that the new moon was the first day of the month!!!??? What number comes before 2? What did David call the day before the 2nd of the month? He called it the new moon..... Let us swiftly agree to disagree. This could go on and on, but, we need not to let that happen, right? The last words are at your fingertips.

[@godspeed7717]

@@grannysword Either my English is bad or yours. Sorry for that anyway. Samuel says the next day of the new moon is the second day of that month. It doesn't mean every day after the new moon is the second day. I told you the very first day of the very first month of the very first year was a *new moon.* And the same event will happen often.

[@normajeanslagel4633]

How sir do you reconcile Isaiah 66:23?? New to to new moon??? Where does that fit in to seven continuous divisible days ? All flesh will come to worship New moon to new moon and sabbath to sabbath

[@stopandeat]

There is no reconciliation for it. The new moon is a marker of a new month scripturally. all the sabbaths in the bible are on the 8th,15th,22nd, and 29th day of a scriptural month.

[@janettesmith369]

So what did they do during holy feast days? The 14th is a sabbath the 15th start passover or even tabernacle, so that means they had sabbath and a high holy day back to back..

[@Psychiatrick]

14th day of Nissan is Passover Preparation day. The 15th is the 2nd Sabbath of Nissan/first month.

[@connieoneill1063]

ive considered the lunar sabbath. Than while i was searching about it i realized people were making an idol of the moon

[@tarafox6618]

Here's where I couldn't reconcile the lunar sabbath argument. If the Passover takes place on the evening of the 14, and 15 day of the month is Unleavened bread. And the lunar sabbath calculate the weekly sabbath landing on day 15 also; then what 'sabbath' day was coming to an end as Mary came to the grave as day dawned, to find Jesus risen 3 days and 3 nights later? It just doesn't fit with Scripture. What is frustrating about this topic, is that it confuses and discourages those christians I've witnessed to who were coming around and seeing how sabbath is on the seventh day and feasts etc...but then they hear this and back off thinking how loony it all must be. :(. I know my lunar sabbath friends have good intentions, but I do see this topic really messing with the bringing together of the two sticks.

[@ri3m4nn]

The lunar sabbath is actually the Babylonian calendar. So, confusion makes sense.

[@YannisH]

I stay with the Rabbinic Jewish calendar. Too many ifs with the lunar. I've done it for almost 4 years.

[@gilbertoventura9730]

you are wrong...nobody can prove Pope/Emperor's continuous 7-day cycle is from the bible...see you are ignorant of Pope Constantine's weekly cycle...search history.

[@marisatai1038]

Happy Sabbath everyone watching from New Zealand

[@maikas_missions]

Blessings from Rotorua

[@gilbertoventura9730]

which Saturday or lunar sabbath?

[@roselubbe9815]

The feast of the Lord can be found in Leviticus chapter 23. The Sabbath is one of them. There are 7 feast to be observed. Only if the Lord is your Lord.

[@kalabalakrishnan1484]

Shalom, I agree. The 7 day week, including the Shabat was established during the Creation Week, for it is written in many places in the bible, especially in the 4th commandment, REMEMBER the Shabat day...... For in six days The LORD made the heavens and the earth....and rested the Seventh day..... Thus pointing to when HEAVENLY FATHER established the Shabat day to be kept Heavenly Father added that last bit because HE knew men were going to come up with the Lunar Shabat, n HE did not want the people to Misunderstand HIM. "Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the LORD ".

[@ronallens6204]

To all deceived people, wake up on an uninhabitted island with just your bible , nott knowing how long you were unconscious, and using scriptures tell me when GOD's sabbath is.

[@kalabalakrishnan1484]

@@ronallens6204 Simple, trust GOD. If u love GOD as much as HE loves u, it is written in the bible, Psalms 32:8 *I will instruct you and teach you in the way which you shall go: I will guide you with mine eye.

[@ronallens6204]

@@kalabalakrishnan1484 poor soul... so in your deception, if you awoke on a deserted place without knowing what day or month it was, what scripture do you cite to tell you what day it is ? If you dont have a scripture to tell you then you can never keep sabbath

[@a.lavernefilan1888]

Read your Bible. Exodus 16. The First Moon-th of the year had Passover on the 14th 'Day' of the month and the Moon-th started with New Moon 🌒 Day in the spring 🌼 🌱 the next 'DAY' the 15th, the Israelites had no dead first born but they Egyptians did. All 'DAY' on the 15th the Egyptians tried to get the Israelites to leave Egypt, they gave them lots and lots of gifts and finally at night 🌃, a Full 🌕 Moon 'DAY' ​they left Egypt. The next morning of the 16th 'day' of Abib they made their famous Red Sea crossing. One Moon-th later on the 15th 'DAY' of the 2nd Moon-th of the year they murmured against God. God told Moses to tell the people that at twilight, after the 7th 'DAY' SABBATH'DAY' was over that HE would give them meat to eat. The got quail, quail and more quail and the next morning, the day of the 16 the they got Manna from heaven for the first time and they were to only pick up enough for that day. If they picked up to much, it melted, spoiled and bred worms. They were told to pick up twice as much on the 6th day of the week, the 21st 'day' of the second Moon-th because on the 22nd 'DAY' of the Moon-th no manna would fall and the manna picked up in a double portion on the 21st didn't spoil, melt or breed worms on the 22nd. So we know that the 14th 'day' of the 1st Moon-th and the 16th 'day' both weren't 7th 'DAY' SABBATH 'DAY's and we know that the 16th 'day' of the 2nd Moon-th and the 21st 'day' weren't 7th'DAY' SABBATH'DAY'S'. We also know that the 10th 'day' of the 1st Moon-th and the 9th Night 🌃 and the 10th 'day of the 7th Moon-th aren't 7th 'DAY' SABBATH 'DAY'S' as well. Those are the day the lamb was purchased or selected from the flock and the night 🌃 and the Day of Atonement which is a Fasting period and YHWH ELOHIM'S 7th 'DAY' SABBATH'DAY' is a Feast 'DAY' and to fast on a feast 'DAY' is a sin. Also the day YAHshua carried His Cross, the 14th 'day' of Abib/Passover wasn't a 7th 'DAY' SABBATH 'DAY' every year. So you just have to figure out when the year starts on which New Moon 🌒 Day and start counting 'days', both backwards and forwards. The 15th 'DAY' of each Moon-th is always a Full 🌕 Moon 'DAY' and a 7th 'DAY' SABBATH 'DAY'. New Moon 🌒 Day each Moon-th is a worship day but never a 7th 'DAY' SABBATH'DAY'. So now start studying all Bible dates for their relevance. @ronallens6204

[@returntoeden]

Thank you for a clear explanation and research. I just like to add that on the new earth, weekly 7th day Sabbaths and lunar sabbath will both be days of worship (Isa 66:22-23). If the weekly cycles do not line up with the lunar cycle, they will not be consistent as it is now, but things could be different on the new earth, the lunar sabbath could be exactly 28 days apart, and only then we could use the moon as a guide for the weekly sabbath. Praise YHVH & Ἰησοῦ \'Ē·,sōh\ Jesus for all our blessings.

[@godspeed7717]

The Biblical calendar is based on Sun. The Book of Enoch and the Book of Jubilees give enough information. A year has 364 days total. Always. Every month has 30 days. The 3rd, 6th, 9th, and 12th month has an extra day which is for seasons. The year starts the day after the Spring Equinox. The day equals 9 parts and night equals 9 parts on the Spring equinox. *Sabbath is every 7th day.*

[@ronallens6204]

@@godspeed7717 iif you were to learn how to decipher a writting you would understand when it was written, they are NOT scripture. Historical documents show Jesus observed sabbath on a lunar calender... if it were the wring day, he would have said so.

[@ronallens6204]

return to eden the lunar calendar is never 28 days. U have no understanding vecause you do not believe the scriptures

[@godspeed7717]

@@ronallens6204 Go go go

[@godspeed7717]

@@ronallens6204 Grow up, the cycle of the moon is 29.5 days and you will be short 10 days every year. Who decides which books are scripture? You or your priesthood?

[@DavidWilberBlog]

Good job, Lex.

[@__Nata_]

What about the fact that the ancient Hebrew month doesn’t start at the same time as the modern month?

[@stopandeat]

Your suspicions are correct. The New moons dont reset the months unless you are already indoctrinated to see time from the viewpoint of a man made calendar.

[@lincolngarcia6616]

Just adding to the confusion ? I'm not sure if you are recommending that we keep Sabbath using the Roman Gregorian solar calendar with the days named after pagan gods or an alternate lunar calendar which you didn't mention. Also I'm assuming you put no stock in the extra biblical book of Enoch to help in this matter?

[@lincolngarcia6616]

@@ednadiaz4193 from what I have seen people quoting in the Bible, Sabbath is kept using the lunar calendar where days don't start at 12:00 am like the Gregorian solar calendar that we use today. The book of enoch elaborates further. It's very confusing if you don't get the concept. But a full moon is ALWAYS a sabbath day.

[@WoodrowfolloweroftheMessiah]

Very Good points! But I am afraid you will get some nasty hateful comments about telling the lunar sabbath keepers to repent! Let’s hope everyone remains Civil. 🙏🏻

[@shuaday6601]

You people clearly have not even read Ezekiel 46 and its command to SEPERATE the new moon days from the 6 work days, THEN, seperate the 6 word days from the 7th day sabbath. You liars are always the one who pretend to know, when you dont. Often times, you liars dont even read and are not aware of what scripture actually says. Which us why you seem to be so ignorant of Ezekiel 46.

[@charliedoucette2249]

Romans 14 really should be read before anyone comments lol.

[@MyChihuahua]

Better than leaving them in their sin.

[@interests357]

@@charliedoucette2249 The Lunar sabbath is not an extra curricular precept that you can just slap on Romans 14. My goodness, Peter was right in saying the writings of Paul would be misused! The Lunar Sabbath is rendering the WEEKLY sabbath of the 4th commandment irrelevant and is hence a violation of the moral law. In such instances, a violation of such a law is not something "DISPUTABLE" as described by Paul in verse 1 of Romans 14. Be careful!

[@statutesofthelord]

If they don't repent, they will die in their sins. Don't you want any of them to go to heaven?

[@geoffreyrusa6715]

Eze 46:1 Mentions 3 distinct days. 1. Work days 2. New moon days 3. Sabaath days

[@rockeristika]

I understand that the lunar shabbat is not biblical but babilonian, so how you do it then? What calendar you use?. Btw, that sounds like The Enoch calendar.

[@maranathasam]

In some languages, the 7th day is even called Sabbath or Shabbat. For example, Spanish "sabado" or in Italian "Sabato".

[@qztip]

A modern creation

[@HelenHunsaker]

I have been keeping SHABBAT since 1915, and you are explaining SHABBAT in the same similar way it was explained to me then. You are one of many standing up for the truth from YHWH'S DOCTRINE. THANKYOU for speaking out.

[@linak7155]

How old are you... 😮

[@charliewhon6548]

I’m still new to the lunar cycle idea but. What are we to do with this scripture then if observance of new moons is moon worship as suggested in this video? Isaiah 66:22&23 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. 23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

[@qztip]

Indeed

[@psalmistdavy5626]

You are to do what you are always supposed to do when anything contradicts scripture. Rebuke it and throw it away! That goes double for a KZbin video.

[@psalmistdavy5626]

It was the first sight of a sliver of moon that the pagans worshipped. It is the restored moon we are to use for His Sabbaths and Feast Days.

[@joshbarnettrealestate]

Thank you sir!

[@therapeuticinstrumentalsan3400]

Thanks for your intellictual thinking.

[@re-7777]

When did you celebrate Shabout? It seems some did yesterday and some last week. Which was correct? Thank you

[@ldfox11]

Very good

[@georgedinar4169]

When the plague of hail fell in the early part of Abib (Month 1), the wheat was not destroyed because it was unripe (it had not even sprouted). The Tyndale Bible supports this understanding: "but the wheat and the rye were not smitten, for they were late sown." (Ex 9:32, Tyndale Translation) In order for the wheat to have been ready for harvest by the 9th day of the third lunation (Sivan 9), it would have had to go from seed to harvest in about two months! This is simply not possible. Wheat generally takes 100-120 days to mature (about 3 1/2 - 4 months).

[@ammm6854]

I can’t like this enough. Right on. 7th day sabbath can be gleaned by readings scripture, lunar sabbath must be gleaned by someone teaching it to you - there’s your sign.

[@joelrios4051]

Such an irony. Talk about projection. One of the most common accusations coming from Lunar Sabbath keepers is that the Jews were influenced by Babylonian religion and forsook the "Biblical" lunar Sabbath. Great video!

[@ronallens6204]

Historically, the rabbis originated in babylon, and fought the levites for dominance ever since. Historically the last high priest took the people iff the lunar calendar and made it more compatable with the pagan solar calendar. Historically the rabbis confounded everything and now the confusion has become their fact. This video continues the confusiin without facts. Other cimments explain this., or better yet, study history and see for yourself the deception of this video. And others like it.

[@joelrios4051]

@@ronallens6204 Yet that's historically inaccurate. Have a nice day 🙂

[@KonynXoXo]

So, if the Gregorian calendar and the Julian calendar weren't around during Exodus, what calendar was? From what I understand from the Lunar calendar believers is that there was NO calendar back then, no monday, tuesday, etc. (obviously) and the Israelites looked to the moon and sun (new moon is mentioned in the Bible a lot) to establish their month (moon) and sun (days). Sabbath today is sundown to sundown. Month should be new moon to new moon? You get 4 Sabbaths in that time, separated by 6 days... We all know God created the moon, not pagans... So my question is still what calendar did the Israelites use to decipher the Sabbath days? Or did they use the sun and the moon?

[@Damitsall]

Thank you Pastor Lex for these teachings. I didn't even know this was a thing. Hey I have 1 word of improvement I'd like to see in these videos; when you do the BIBLE quotations, can you put the version that you get it from at the bottom?

[@unlearnthelies]

I use the NKJV

[@grannysword]

“Gregorian Saturday Sabbath keepers”, please answer this important question. It is very plain in the Bible that the new moon day is the first day, the beginning of God’s months. The Gregorian calendar do not start its months with the new moon day. So, explain to me how can Saturday be God’s true Sabbath day?

[@interests357]

@@grannysword "It is very plain in the Bible that the new moon day is the first day" ---- Where does it say that in the scripture please?

[@grannysword]

@@interests357 ....... Thank you for taking time to read this important message. Read 1 Samuel 20

[@semajfranks2114]

What I have failed to find is a command saying the Sabbath is determined by the month at all. The Gregorian calendar doesn't affect the weekly cycle and I don't see how Yahweh's lunar calender would have to affect the weekly cycle.

[@jasonlawson8619]

The evening and the morning was the first day, the evening and the morning was the second day, that's a lunar schedule, but even when you see no moon its still a day.

[@mariodelarosa5722]

Why is it so hard to understand that Yah's Great Clock of time is in the heavens, where NO man or Pope can touch it??? Genesis 1:14 "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons (Moedim), and for days, and years (time in general). The moon (luni) and the sun (solar) determine the Moedim (Yah's Feasts, assemblies, convocations, worship times), in addition to time in general, as the verse mentions the reckoning of days and years as well. Psalms 104:19 "He appointed the moon for seasons (Moedim): the sun knoweth his going down." Again, Yah declares that the moon determines all worship times by the Hebrew word Moedim, translated as seasons. Is this too difficult to understand??? I don't get the confusion people fall into. Psalms 89:37 "It shall be established for ever as the moon, and as a faithful witness in heaven. Selah.". The moon is Yah's faithful witness in the heavens that does not lie or fail. All praise and honor to Yahweh via HIS Son Yahshua!!!

[@sneediusrexius]

"Unless you become as a child, you will not make it into the Kingdom" Children are those ones who can look at the moon phases and realize its a clock given to us by our father. I suspect the lunar cycle reveals the sabbath every month, but I am not completly sure.

[@yiannishatzimilousis4967]

Truth

[@mariodelarosa5722]

@@sneediusrexius Yes. The lunar cycle does reveal the Sabbath every month. It begins with New Moon Day, which is day 1 of the month (it's not a working day nor a seventh day Sabbath). Next are the 6 working days of the week. After those 6 days, is the seventh day Sabbath. This cycle repeats four times per month. Finally the month is either 29 or 30 days depending on the moons' movement. Thereafter, the morning after conjunction is the new moon day every month that begins the cycle of four weeks. The new moon day is the key, the anchor, that unlocks and directs to the seventh day Sabbath every month. And whatever you do, DO NOT mix Yah's Lunar Solar calendar with the Gregorian calendar in reckoning time. They do not coincide. Shalom

[@kimtreadaway3470]

Good points about this . Thanks.I have one issue , that many refuse to look at . The date line we have now has been changed by man . The biblical date line starts at Jerusalem . So the territory between the new date line and the real one in Jerusalem is one day behind . So their sunday is really on Sabbath . Sunset to sunset is on the wrong day in this territory . What do you think about this ? Thanks again .

[@morneterblanche2228]

It is called hallowed days . A hallowed is the curry over of a new month

[@debbyantoine]

thank u so much ❤

[@MrNamara31]

Ok , the pattern in the Bible is not 6 working days and then the Sabbath day , please explain as the expert you are, the following Bible passages New Moon Day Separate from the 6 Work Days and the Seventh-Day Sabbath: New Moon day is not counted as one of the 6 working days neither is it the seventh-day Sabbath; the new moon day starts the month as day 1 making the weekly Sabbaths to fall on 8th, 15th, 22nd, and 29th of the lunar month. (See Ezekiel 46:1, Amos 8:5, 2Kings 4:23, and Isaiah 66:23.) Exodus 12: Passover was on the 14th of the first month. The first day of the feast of unleavened bread was on the 15th which was a Sabbath (See Leviticus 23: 4-16). This makes the Sabbaths for the first month (Abib) to have fallen on the 8th, 15th, 22nd, and the 29th. (Exodus 12.) Exodus 16: Manna fell for the six week days, but did not fall on the Sabbath which fell on the 22nd, making the other Sabbaths for that month fall on the 8th, 15th and 29th. (Exodus 16.) Exodus 19 Israel left Egypt the night of Abib 15. Three months later, on the very same day, the 15th, they rested before the mount. (See Deuteronomy 16:1; Numbers 33:3; Exodus 19:1-2.), thus making the Sabbaths for the third month (as recorded in Exodus 19:1) fall on the 8th, 15th, 22nd, and 29th. The weekly Sabbaths for the first month (Exodus 12) and the second month (Exodus 16) fell on the same dates also; this is not possible on today's Gregorian Roman calendar which people use to identify their worship days. Annual Feasts and High Sabbaths: Every year, the feast of unleavened bread begins on the 15th, a Sabbath. The first day of feast of Tabernacles also falls on the 15th which is called a "holy convocation" and is followed, eight days later by another "holy convocation" on the 22nd, every single year. Two Sabbaths always falling on the 15th cannot occur on a solar calendar. (See Numbers 29:12-39; Leviticus 23:5, 6, 34, 35, 39). Entering Canaan: The manna never fell on the seventh-day Sabbath. After entering Canaan, Israel kept Passover. The manna ceased on the 16th of Abib, the day after the Sabbath: Exodus 16; Joshua 5:10-12. This places the Sabbath for this month on 8th, 15th, 22nd, and 29th. Dedication of Priesthood: Aaron and his sons were sanctified for seven days beginning on New Moon Day (See Exodus 40: 2, 17). On the eighth day (which was also the 8th of the month), there was an assembly of the congregation. During the preceding seven days, they were not to leave the tabernacle. (See Leviticus 8:1- 13; 33-35; 9:1-5). From Exodus 40: 17 we learn that it was the first month (Abib) of the second year after their departure from Egypt, in which Passover was to be kept; this is a double confirmation that the Sabbaths for this month fell on 8th, 15th, 22nd, and 29th. Solomon: Solomon kept the Feast of Tabernacles for seven days. On the 8th day (22nd of the month) they made a solemn assembly. Solomon sent the people away on the 23rd, being careful not to send them away on the 22nd, the Sabbath. (See 2 Chronicles 7:8-10). This places the Sabbath for the seventh month on 8th, 15th, 22nd, and 29th. Esther 9: The 15th of the 12th month was a rest day, making the 8th, 22nd and 29th rest days as well. (Esther 9.) Hezekiah's Reform: The people began to sanctify on New Moon day of the first month and on the 8th of the month they went to the temple. On the 16th of the month, they "made an end" which was the first day of the work week. (2 Chronicles 29:17.) Crucifixion: Passover was always on the 14th of Abib. (Leviticus 23:5.) Christ's crucifixion occurred on Passover, on the sixth day of the week. Passover always occurred on the sixth day of the week, followed by the seventh-day Sabbath on the 15th. (See Mark 15:42; John 19:31; Lev. 23:6, 7, 11 and 15; John 19:42.) Resurrection: Christ was resurrected early in the morning on the first day of the week. (Matthew 28:1; Mark 16:1 and 2; Luke 24:1; John 20:1.) Christ was resurrected on the 16th of Abib, the first day of the week, corresponding to the wave sheaf offering, or first fruits. (Leviticus 23:11.) Paul called Christ the "first fruits of them that sleep" and stated that He was buried and rose the third day. (1 Corinthians 15:3, 4 and 20-23.) On the walk to Emmaus, the two disciples told Christ that it was the third day since the crucifixion. (Luke 24:17-21.) The crucifixion week establishes the weekly seventh-day Sabbath on Abib 15, thus making the 8th, 22nd and 29th days Sabbaths as well. Healing of the Blind Man: The last day of the Feast of Tabernacles always falls on the 21st day of the seventh month: (See Leviticus 23:34, 36, 39-41; Numbers 29:12; Deuteronomy 16:13-15; Nehemiah 8:13-18; Ezekiel 45:21-25.) Christ attended the Feast of Tabernacles. (John7:10.) On the last day of the Feast, the 21st of the seventh month, Christ stood and spoke. (John 7:37.) Christ spent that night on the Mount of Olives. (John 8:1.) The next morning, the 22nd of the seventh month, Christ returned to the temple. (John 8:2.) At the temple, Christ healed a blind man. (John 9:6.) The healing of the blind man caused great anger for it was the seventh-day Sabbath. (John 9:14.) This places the weekly seventh-day Sabbaths on the 8th, 15th, 22nd, and 29th of the month yet again. Paul's Journey: The first day of the work week always fell on the 2nd of the month, the day after New Moon. In Luke's account of their journey, Paul's company sailed from Philippi after the feast of unleavened bread ended on the 21st of Abib, sailed for five days and arrived at Troas where they stayed seven days. (See Acts 20:5-7.) The seventh day of their stay at Troas was the second day of the month which Paul refers to as the first day of the week. This again places the Sabbaths on the 8th, 15th, 22nd, and 29th days of the month. (For more on Paul's journey and how it corroborates the luni-solar calendar, click here.) All this information is from the website WORLD LAST CHANCE

[@yiannishatzimilousis4967]

Where did all the commenters go? Dead silent.. Excellent list of witnesses, job well done. Shalom

[@qztip]

Replying simply to find this thread again when I need it.

[@icojdmv]

GREAT STUFF! ADDED TO OUR PLAYLIST !

[@SARAI7HJ]

Non-day? What in blazes? Where'd they even get that?

[@waffleone3]

Every day is a work day unless: 1. There were six work days prior. Then that day is a seventh day sabbath. If there were not six work days prior, then no seventh day sabbath. 2. It is the day of the new moon. New moon will show just at dusk above the western horizon. 3. It is a feast day spelled out in Lev. 23. Passover. Unleavened bread. Pentecost. Trumpets. Atonement. Tabernacles. Last great day. Very simple rules to follow.

[@ShellbieB]

Many don’t realize there are feast day sabbaths and the 7th day Sabbath. They are two very different things

[@Psychiatrick]

7 Sabbaths other than the 4 per month ...

[@ronmey7500]

Well spoken.

[@erinb6369]

I follow, and agree. My question is: how do we trace back the actual 7 day cycle? I am fairly certain the Gregorian calendar is also inaccurate. Furthermore, does it make a difference post-Messiah, and could this be one example of what Yahshua was Redeeming us from? I desire to keep the Sabbath, personally...and to follow as much of Torah as possible. Not for salvation, since salvation is by Grace...but because GOD Stated it Pleases HIM, and in my experience, following HIS Law seems to bring Blessings. Any thoughts/comments on this appreciated!

[@Shiryone]

We are only students and are seeking, like yourself. But it does appear that the 7 day cycle was not disrupted. The dead sea scrolls indicate this, and also in the book of John we read "the feast of the Jews" several times making a distinction, and Messiah seemed to be keeping a different calendar, keeping the Feasts like Passover a day early, but was keeping the same Sabbath as the religious Jews. You are right in that we cannot keep the Torah perfectly, only Messiah could do it perfectly, and we are not in the land, no Temple, but we are Torah pursuant and trying to please the Father, through His Son, and out pure love and desire from our hearts. Shalom

[@eitan367]

It doesn't take much wisdom to determine that there should be a starting point for any calendar. So men used both the lunar only and solar only calendars. If you have read, Enoch and determined that what he was actually talking about was luni-solar, then kudos to you, you are indeed man or woman living by the bread (manna) from heaven, every Word from the mouth of the Prophets as Enoch was a Prophet too, not just the Prophets from the Torah. In fact, Enoch is one of the two witnesses mentioned in Revelation who turn the hearts of the children to the Father. Yahshua was indeed redeeming us from the very man made pagan calendars that don't follow Scripture which the reason for the exile echoed in Old Testament. In fact, that is the Mark, the sign of the true Sabbath keepers.

[@gordo191]

None of this has confused the jews for thousands of years , isnt our religion rooted in Judaism, we keep the same ten commandments as they do don't we ,

[@MyChihuahua]

All of nature obeys YHUH and you can find video of birds, bees, oxen, donkeys and beavers that don't work on 'Saturday'. I've heard from someone that has observed the same of the ants.

[@MyChihuahua]

The Jews keep Fri (6th day) evening to Sabbath evening. The days, including the 7th day, begin and end with 'morning'. Gen 1-2.

[@davidfindley1588]

Real simple Saturday is the 7th day take every Saturday as the sabeth off and rest. May God bless you and keep you.

[@TacoSyndicate]

Okay well what calendar do I use to start counting the 7 days???

[@bribri7082]

You are not using Yahua's calendar, you are using the incorrect Gregorian calendar.

[@mablo8224]

I agree with others on the calendar being in the sky where it can never be tampered with like the calendar that we know has been tampered with like Julian and Gregorian calendar.

[@russfrancis4220]

You likely think that a DAY begins at sundown too. You do err on many understandings. You do not understand the count to Feast if Weeks. If you understand the proper count and the Lunar Sabbath and King Hezekiah's 10° sundial then you would see that the Lunar Calendar perfectly dictates the Sabbath. Also the 3 DAYS and 3 NIGHTS fits perfectly.

[@DigaPrints]

In my studies… the best I could conclude is that there are different calendars. The daily calendar (24hrs) the weekly calendar (7days) the lunar calendar (crescent to crescent) and the solar calendar (abib to abib)

[@Psychiatrick]

2 main calendars from Genesis 36:2 ... Cana'an Julian and Edom Gregorian. Then there's Father's calendar which Paul, who was God in the flesh, abolished. God's calendar goes from New Moon to last waning crescent. Today is the last waning crescent Sabbath of the 12 month.

[@AVBolt]

I have been wondering about this. I'm glad to have some clarity. However, like others here I don't know if the Gregorian calendar is accurate in its order.

[@godspeed7717]

The Biblical calendar is based on Sun. The Book of Enoch and the Book of Jubilees give enough information. A year has 364 days total. Always. Every month has 30 days. The 3rd, 6th, 9th, and 12th month has an extra day which is for seasons. The year starts the day after the Spring Equinox. The day equals 9 parts and night equals 9 parts on the Spring equinox. *Sabbath is every 7th day.*

[@AVBolt]

@@godspeed7717 I've never heard it put so simply. Thank you 🙏

[@godspeed7717]

Read Book of Enoch and Jubilees. Ask for doubts.@@AVBolt

[@statutesofthelord]

@@AVBolt Anna, You do realize that "godspeed" is lying to you, don't you?

[@godspeed7717]

As you wish. I said what the Book of Enoch and the Book of Jubilees teach. ☝️@Jim Johnson

[@lawg7579]

Did Moses create the Gregorian calendar last we forget God’s calendar is not man’s calendar yet you make your calculation of man’s calendar I suggest you seek light from the word

[@debbyantoine]

Hi Lex I've a question ❓ God never named the days. How do we know what day is the seventh! ? My thought is to know is by faith in the Most High ! Any thoughts anyone , would help someone I know to help her understand the Sabbath day.

[@JeffSmith-it4tm]

7th day is the shabbat in every language.

[@toddbowles8201]

Work around the world is Monday. Work 6 days including Saturday. Sunday is the Sabbath. NOT in America, but in much of the world, the week starts on Monday.

[@MARTINELSA1]

Ok so because you dont understand it you claim its wrong and revert to rome!

[@victoriasinatra]

Testing Comment counter God Bless You!

[@benjaminburbank294]

Thank you so much for your research on this topic! Very well explained! -Shalom

[@HelenHunsaker]

Thankyou, Joe, for explaining the true SHABBAT DAY.

[@XxlightxX]

I use a moon calendar to line up each month correctly. And make a 13th month every 2 years being 11 days short.

[@BobbyEngels-Natsariym]

Lots of bitter and puffed up folks in the comments here. Both lunar and seven day sabatiers.

[@charliedoucette2249]

Romans 14 should be in our hearts

[@Slo183]

Can you provide a respone to "Ministers of the New Covenant" video "(A Response to Lex Meyer of UNLEARN)" - would be interesting how you handle his arguments.

[@targetedindividualsrq8538]

Keeping Pope Gregory's Saturday? 🤔

[@oneme6076]

Hi , my name is Carl. I thank you for investigating the scriptures in the lunar calendar. I agree. Than how about the weeks? 52x7 or 50x7 ? 50 sounds better. Ok. 50x7 = 350 days in a year. Instead of 364. 14 days shorter.

[@rwallis1985]

If there is no 8 day week on occasion. How do you explain the battle of Jericho? New Moon days are not Sabbath Days nor are they considered work days. So you could have 6 work days then a New Moon day, right?

[@BRMachiavelli]

Joshua chapter 5 at the end is Passover, Unleavened bread and first fruits. The next chapter is Jericho. Puts Israel at the last week of the month. Not the first week of the month. Also we remember what yehsua said. He’s god over the sabbath. Look who shows up on first fruits at the end of Joshua chapter 5. Then look at the commands given that follow. If Yah is the Elohim of the sabbath. Doesn’t he have dominion over it?

[@MyChihuahua]

Also in Joshua 5 he is told that Jericho is given into his hands. All they have to do is march, shout, and claim the city in victory. There was no 'warring' to be done.

[@rwallis1985]

@@MyChihuahua What happened after the walls fell? The outer walls of the city falling was only the beginning. Do you think that the people and solders inside the city just lined up to be executed? The point is, the battle went on longer than 6 days so there could have been a New Moon Day in there somewhere.

[@MyChihuahua]

@@rwallis1985 Even if there was a New Moon Day in there somewhere, there is NOTHING that states that new moon days are automatically Sabbaths. In fact we are instructed to keep the New Moon Day of the 7th months Sabbath for the feast of Trumpets only. [Jos 6:1-4 KJV] 1 Now Jericho was straitly shut up because of the children of Israel: none went out, and none came in. 2 And YHUH said unto Joshua, See, I have >>given into thine hand

[@rwallis1985]

@@MyChihuahua yes, that is what I am saying extra long week because New Moon Days are not Sabbaths, also the whole leaving Egypt thing was before God commanded his people not to work on the Sabbath.

[@MatalicZ]

I have seriously been waiting for this information. God Bless Your Ministry Brother! Praise God for his grace in this dark and deceptive world!

[@ryemccoy]

Shavuot... using math based on biblical scriptures: During 7 biblical weeks, there is one biblical new moon feast. That's why 7x7=49, and the bible mentions 50 days, because there is one new moon biblical feast. 7x7+1=50. It's not pagan to follow the biblical lunar shabbat and new moon feast. If you think it is pagan to follow biblical stuff, then you mean it is pagan to follow biblical moedim too? Also, the moedim align with the lunar shabbats too, for example, every Pesach is a full moon shabbat, mentioned in the bible too. Saturn-day is from the pagan, roman empire, now called catholic org. They actually pushed down on not allowing the Yahudim, Israelis, from keeping their lunar shabbat, because that, with the new moon feast, messed with the roman empire's business needs in that area when they took over that area of the Yahudim. So unfortunately, keeping Saturn-day is actually a pagan day, but doesn't make one a pagan directly, it's just something in the fallen world that is deception from roman empire/ romanism... catholic org. They, the catholic org, that saturday is the shabbat, and sunday is the day of consecration, attending an org building together. This is in their canon. Also, the founder of seventh day adventist actually wrote about how the biblical lunar shabbat is actually the truth, however, that if they moved back to the original biblical lunar shabbat, and new moon feast, then they couldn't keep their church building business, because shabbat wouldn't stay on a roman empire weekend, and they wouldn't get their charity/funding weekly. So they, and other churches keep the pagan saturn-day and/or sun-day as shabbat, and don't also do the biblical new moon feast, because it would make their church business economically collapse. However, because of this issue, it isn't good to judge others. And it is hard to do biblical shabbat because most work roman weekdays, and that is just an issue in this fallen world we can't easily change. So, I suggest those who can do the biblical lunar shabbats, new moon feasts, and moedim, then cool, and enjoy. Most can't keep the biblical shabbat, and have to still do at least one day of rest and focus on our Creator/Savior, and reset the week, they will have to use a saturn-day or a sun-day... not because they focus on pagan romanism... they still focus on the Creator/Savior. True knowledge is okay to learn, but judging others isn't the right thing, and it's good to helping others understand the challenges of life in this fallen world, and how to trust in HIM to get through it. Everyone, be at peace. Literally, we all need HIS grace and mercy. Blessings to you all.

[@russfrancis4220]

sooo much incorrect information in this video.

[@deannadelrosario2609]

Did you say on another comment about a calendar you mentioned, thanks can't find it now!

[@russfrancis4220]

@@deannadelrosario2609 Yes

[@jerryjamify]

Is there any information that the Hebrews kept the sabbath while captive, or when they traveled outside of the holy land?

[@philipcordova710]

Very interesting!! What about new moon day?

[@MelissaFortune]

The problem is we on the Gregorian calendar only have 12 months technically there are 13 months and there are 28 days in it it's not 365 days in a year it's actually 364 according to the Bible so actually it's still the lunar but it's only 28 days after 28 days the only extra days is because of the month that's because actually we should be counting 28 days every 28 days or But I get what he's saying... When Jacobs mother blesses him she says may you have as many children as the months Jacob had 13 children 12 were boys and one girl Dina

[@MyChihuahua]

The months are 29.5 days. That is why some are 29 and some are 30 to make up the half day short. Same for the year. There is a 13th month every 2-3 years because the 354 day lunar cycle falls short of the 365.25 day solar cycle by 10 days per year. This can all be observed in the movements and positions of the luminaries which we are given for signs (Gen 1).

[@MelissaFortune]

@@MyChihuahua ahhh that makes perfect sense to me. I will return to my studies and try to align all this. Lol I say that all the time in terms of the positions of the luminaries some people get it some people don’t but I’m really happy that at least you do and you’ve obviously been doing your research to even arrive at this conclusion you just shared thank you thank you thank you I hope you have a magnificent day

[@86schonell]

Never though about this before. Thanks for the explanation. My question is when and who changed how we reconcile the start of a day from sunset to sunset to midnight to midnight. The backdrop of this question is my Sunday keeping friends making reference to Act 20 with Paul preaching on the first day?

[@MyChihuahua]

Well, first it was changed from morning to morning as given in Gen 1-2... by the Jews from their Babylonian influence.

[@phillipbrand4098]

For your Act 20 friends. According to Acts 2:46 the disciples were going to the temple preaching, and gathering for meals to break bread everyday. So does that mean everyday is a sabbath or the Lords day because preaching and bread breaking was done? It seems like they did a meet up everyday and choose one of those days to collect money for the poor. So using Acts 20 as a proof text that the sabbath was change to the 1st day of the week because they did a meet up and broke bread is lacking. Especially since it makes the wrong assumption that meeting and breaking bread is only done once a week.

[@godspeed7717]

1. A day starts with sunrise* and ends with sunset. 2. Sunset to sunrise is known as night. 3. Sabbath is on every 7th day. 4. We should keep Sabbath holy by not doing any work. 5. Disciples gathered together on the first day of the week after the rest on the 7th day of the previous week. 6. Sabbath remains the same. 7. 1st day is the day of the meeting. (you can conduct meeting on any of the 6 days.)

[@MyChihuahua]

@@godspeed7717 A unified (full) day, or 'Yom echad', includes morning, day, evening and night. We find this same pattern in the year: Spring is the transition to summer as morning dawns into the full light of day; and autumn fades to winter like evening into the darkness of night.

[@godspeed7717]

@@MyChihuahua Read this verse over and over. God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. God called the light, *“day, ”* and the darkness He called *“night.”*

[@diamantepanganiban3251]

David used the lunar solar calendar, considering the new moo

[@unlearnthelies]

He didn't base the sabbath on the moon

[@fakadaapada]

@@unlearnthelies he should have Psalm 104:19

[@harrysollmer1644]

Enoch spoke About this it says the Sun will choose the sabbath day beginning and end Not moons Moon really meant month but when we follow sun there's not a problem Only when you follow a inconsistent moon setup by Pharisees

[@Planetgreenzen]

When you look at the KJV and the Hebrew words when counting Shavuot, it's clear that you count 7 Shabbats then "recount" 50 days and the wheat harvest is in the fourth month lines up perfectly with that count and if Shavuot is a memorial of when Moses came down with the 10 commandments that count matches perfectly, he came down after 7 Shabbats plus 50 days. Yahushua also said in John, isn't it 4 months until wheat harvest. Also, in 2 volumes of the Jewish enclycepedia, it mentions that Shabbat was originally tied to the lunar cycles but it was changed and also Philo of Alexandria a contemporary of Yahushua also confirmed in his writings that the lunar phases were for days and that the full moon was the middle of the month, which is the 15th of the month, starting over from new moon. Ezekiel 46 1-3 shows there are 3 categories of days and the one verse in Isaiah 66 you left out the first half which says and from one new moon to the next. Why did leave that out? Most Shabbaths in the Bible that give a specific count always lines up with the 8th, 15th, 22nd or 29th as well. So many witnesses. satan came to change times and laws but he can't mess with Yah's calendar in the sky. Man can't even break through the firmament to try and mess with it.

[@johnkoroi4890]

Here's the connection between the MOON (New Moon) and WEEKLY SABBATH right from Scripture itself: "ISAIAH 66:23 - AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS, [THAT] FROM ONE NEW MOON TO ANOTHER, AND FROM ONE SABBATH TO ANOTHER, SHALL ALL FLESH COME TO WORSHIP BEFORE ME, SAITH THE LORD." One more thing to note is that the NEW MOON & WEEKLY SABBATH Relationship was given to the Israelites in the Wilderness of SINAI long before they came in contact with the BABYLONIAN CULTURE /CULT of seventh/holy/evil day.

[@missdebbie6791]

Please, where in scripture does it say the 7 day count is consecutive? Please send me the verse. Ezekiel 46:1 makes it clear new moon day is not a work day or a Sabbath-"Thus said the master Yahuah, "The gate of the inner courtyard facing east is shut the six days of work, but on the Sabbath it is opened and on the day of the new moon it is opened."

[@harleyfong5784]

What Name did God give the Yisrealites for our Lord and Saviour???

[@harleyfong5784]

gave/

[@sevenwyatt8447]

Check out “Faith wisdom and understanding When is the Sabbath day pt8”

[@kamenvasilev6279]

So I have a question regarding the Sabbath, does it start from sunset of friday to sunset of saturday

[@qztip]

No

[@stuartlegault4042]

Great teaching lex!

[@redbeard6403]

I thank for making this video, it simplified things for me and I like to keep things simple. There was a video from a channel (which I stopped subscribing to) here on KZbin which promoted the Lunar Sabbath concept although I think they called it a luniesolar calendar or something like that and talked about God's Calendar vs Rome's Calendar. Things for this video and keeps things simple.

[@dennismaher9533]

LEX IS BEING VERY NON TRUTHFUL

[@waffleone3]

Are tou certain the moon was created on day 4? Is the moon not part of the heavens? Created during the period of time called "the beginning"? Tge sun also, is it not part of the heavens? Different hebrew words were used in verse 1, "in the beginning" and day 4. On day 4 the word can mean appointed, or worked upon, completed, etc. another question.. how can you jave light, unless the sun has been creafed? I see that light came before day 4.

[@John_jingle_hiemer_schmit]

Well seeing as there are independent historical Roman accounts of Jews observing the sabbath on Saturday (you know since they specifically attacked them on those days) it’s safe to say the lunar sabbath is false. Furthermore Jews were observing a Saturday Sabbath during Roman occupation DURING the time Yeshua walked the earth… and he honored the same Sabbath they did and never taught a Lunar Sabbath.. so again safe to assume it’s a fixed 7 day cycle that always falls on Saturday.

[@OurSavior-xr3yc]

Amen, great job as usual agree with a 100%.