How Speedrunners Broke Wii Sports Biggest Barrier

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The All Sports world record speedrun of the original Wii Sports has been on the edge of falling below the 7 minute milestone for a couple years now. This is the journey of how speedrunners beat the odds to get the first sub-7.
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[SPOILERS] Current World Record: • [WR] Wii Sports All Sp...
Check out these awesome Wii Sports speedrunners!
EmoadNomad: www.youtube.com/ @emoadnomad
MrJimmySteel25: www.youtube.com/ @MrJimmysteel25
Mr_Shy_Guy: / @mr.shyguyyt
Plyd: / @plyd823
RuinerRyan: www.youtube.com/ @ruinerryan
RyMacG4: / @rymacg4
ShockwaveTLS: www.youtube.com/ @ShockwaveTLS
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[@LunaticJ]

If you enjoyed this video, check out this Mario Kart Wii speedrunning video I just made! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qp3Gn3iYjMpqr6csi=AqBAATZBF9ZMKp8a [SPOILERS] Current Wii Sports World Record: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYPXXnqNr718oJIsi=iw2ful5oXE0m8v8l Check out these awesome Wii Sports speedrunners! EmoadNomad: www.youtube.com/@emoadnomad MrJimmySteel25: www.youtube.com/@MrJimmysteel25 Mr_Shy_Guy: www.youtube.com/@Mr.ShyGuyYT Plyd: www.youtube.com/@Plyd823 RuinerRyan: www.youtube.com/@ruinerryan RyMacG4: www.youtube.com/@rymacg4 ShockwaveTLS: www.youtube.com/@ShockwaveTLS

[@quintonconoly]

Ok

[@MajorUrsa]

for the noble act of listing all the background tracks you use in your vid im giving you a like and sub. so many ppl dont credit the music they use. tysm for doing that.

[@fahadmalik8862]

Crazy cool vid! +

[@MrJimmysteel25]

Great overview on the sub 7 grind. I've been trying to get WR back on and off since 2017 after only having it for 3 days. I've come this far in staying a top player for so long and I don't think I'm gonna stop grinding once I get sub 7. I gotta stay persistent and finish what I set out to do all those years ago.

[@McLovinMods]

Don't give up! You are next!

[@at4m1cplayz66]

Good luck brother

[@Dziaji]

What is your time?

[@joelcont]

You can do it

[@jamineamina5429]

​@@Dziajileader board says 7:14

[@ShockwaveTLS]

This is an absolutely incredible video. I couldn't put it better myself if I tried, the level of detail and the alternative perspective to previous WR progression videos of explaining WHY it was so hard to beat and what caused me to lose motivation for the category is super refreshing. The explaining of moonball and volleybowl, and bringing up my 7:02 which was pretty unknown outside the community warms my heart in a way to know there's a video that just gets everything right. Maybe I will get sub 7 one day. Not WR, but just as a personal achievement, as there's no longer urgency to be the first sub 7, yet it will be just as sweet ❤

[@Zyiers]

Man you’re awesome

[@joshcantrell8397]

The man, the myth, the legend!

[@ricercr44]

I don’t quite understand why people do the speed running stuff, but the community seems like one of the best out there, so maybe I do understand it…. Great video!

[@ruinerryan]

I felt so close to sub 7 but yet so far. The rng needed in baseball is just hell. I still feel like I can punch another good time in but I need to get myself together in bowling. A lot of factors like Errors, Fouls, No homeruns, Strikes, Wind and Hole locations can really destroy your run. But I strive again to do good things watching this. This video really motivates me to run it again so I might give it a go. Thanks LunaticJ 🔥

[@ruinerryan]

Also wanted to say I watch your content all the time and really didn’t expect to see myself in this video 😂 Great videos overall man keep the good content coming!

[@at4m1cplayz66]

Wishing you luck bro

[@ruinerryan]

@@at4m1cplayz66thanks playa🔥❤️

[@ansem37]

Do it man! You can push it even lower

[@ruinerryan]

@@ansem37 I believe

[@Mr.ShyGuyYT]

I was so shocked when this video came out!!! I still love this literal dream ending to the sub 7. I know i never got it, but to be honest, 1.2 never really was the way to go. I still absolutely loved this whole video, and love your videos man! thanks so much to bringing light to the most goated run ever, 6:53!

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@ThungStudios]

I don't really care about speedruns and haven't played Wii sports in like a decade, so I have no idea why KZbin recommended this to me. With that being said, I still watched the whole thing

[@gabbyholloman177]

Captivating and entertaining despite me not even knowing this was a thing until I saw the title I found myself very invested

[@tomebers8683]

Same here tbh, it was actually really good surprisingly

[@kefkapalazzo1]

You may like summoning salt if that’s the case (gold standard for long form speedrun content for years if you ask me) but a lot of KZbinrs are just good at telling stories so the content is just like a backdrop

[@justabearbrowsingyoutube4968]

@@kefkapalazzo1I think a person has to have some interest in the content itself to enjoy a documentary. Be it for its complexity and history of a topic, or just because it’s something they never seen before. No matter how good a documentary is, people will lose interest if it’s a subject that doesn’t apply to their interest.

[@RyMacG4]

Awesome video man! Anime Baby is love, Anime Baby is life.

[@4xArcskix5]

She anime on my baby till I 6:53.867

[@puppytrish]

huge congrats ry :)

[@TuxedoSlim]

o7

[@jesiah391]

Huh

[@BurningEagl]

Copywrite incringement

[@palpiblade1586]

Ok but that strike at 19:33 is a thing of beauty.

[@Determi9r]

“Thanks for watching, now here’s a dog” is the absolute best possible way to end this video

[@Crixus654]

Best way to end any video!! 😂

[@Crixus654]

Best way to end any video!! 😂

[@xhappybunnyx]

My favorite part about these stories is how they showcase the "on the shoulders of giants" saying. So cool to see generations of runners exhaust themselves pushing the limit while newer generations get to pick up their hard work and invest their new energy into pushing it even further. A beautiful example of what makes humanity so powerful

[@emoadnomad]

Great coverage and well organized video. Love to see what is to come!

[@ShneeMan300]

Honestly the pause you made after the 9 count and the end of the video brought me more tension than it should. XD really well crafted video. Made me feel things about a speedrun I didn't know anything about in less than 20 minutes.

[@ThaRixer]

Congraturlations to anime baby

[@Alaskaxp2]

Fantastic video. I loved the deeper insight into the run's strategies as well as the inclusion of sub-7 contender's failed runs 💯 SPOILER congrats RyMac, no one will ever understand how you managed it

[@etho2185]

I used to watch your wii sports streams all the time Alaskaxp2 I’m glad this vid popped up

[@calebjohnson9740]

5:10 somebody get this man a barber

[@LimeJ0SH]

dont watch any speed running, nor have i played wii sports in like 10 years... but i just enjoyed a 20 minute video on both lol. Crazy to think how good speed runners are at breaking and solving games. Good stuff man

[@gelatine_ac]

Man, I keep forgetting I subscribed to this channel, or that this channel even exists. But I'm always pleasantly surprised to see your videos in my feed!

[@Plyd823]

love to see more coverage of this game. Great work on the video!

[@TechX1320]

I recently watched the video of somebody using AI to play Wii sports baseball, and they figured out that the splitter was the best ball to throw. Yes you'll get an error fastball right down the middle from time to time, but overall it's the best pitch to throw. I wonder if that's something that could help speedrunners

[@TrueRX_]

Was it this video? I saw it recently and heard the same thing kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4WzonyrerJgq8ksi=aUPcjSEvTLpGq4RM

[@AlexWilliams-zi3xx]

People can talk all the shit they want on gamers but these dudes are borderline geniuses. The tricks and hints they find amaze me all the time. Watching speed runs are always so fun. Mario speed runs always get me going!!! 🎉

[@TechX1320]

Also I think the way I bowl is faster than the methods used in the video. On original Wii sports, you can lock the ball at Max height of the player's arm raised and it will always go straight. I've been using that method for years and years to cheat strikes. I always move to the right very similar to how you explain, but what I do is I swing the wiimote twice very fast. If you don't let go of b on the first upswing and just let the players arm lock, and then swing a second time and curve your wrist, you'll get the same curve and the ball will go perfectly straight every single time and hit the exact same spot

[@Mr.ShyGuyYT]

if you swing twice, wont that make it slower?

[@evox6878]

New Year’s Eve: Getting drunk with friends ❌❌ Eat Wii sports ✅✅

[@christocream]

If I was speedrunning this I would start with baseball right away instead of saving it for last or after tennis

[@t0mn00k6]

Well, that’s against the rules. You have to start with Tennis and go down the list.

[@christocream]

OH SHOOT

[@dowblab]

The Wii, Wii Sports, and Wii Sports Resort are the absolute peak of gaming. I remember seeing it for the first time after release in the NY Nintendo store. It was so frickin cool and different. I honestly still play ping pong in Resorts. If they release an updated Wii, I would absolutely buy in a heartbeat.

[@t0mn00k6]

Love this video! As a runner, I remember the progression of AS and I love the community. Even though my PB is sub 9, I’m still pushing for sub 8.

[@iitzfizz]

The patience & dedication of these guys is unreal

[@joseywales6168]

"Now here's a dog" and then TWO dogs appear, greatest ending ever

[@JBLilPaper]

Great video! Nice to see Wii Sports speedrunning still getting love

[@Hydro1211]

I love seeing the top contenders for this speed run all in the comments, congrats to you all… great effort.

[@TreyMo69]

I didn't even know this was a thing, but I must say this was a fantastic documentary of the WR and it did not spoil the ending...great job, sub earned

[@EZAblinG]

Big up the beefboss cameo in baseball 😂

[@SushiElemental]

I bet some retirement home basement king can crush the time if they tried.

[@Ascension721]

I heard a rumor once that a guy who held an unmatched Wii Sports Resort 18 hole record for over a decade was a guy in his late 60s. Your comment may have been a joke but its not impssible

[@DanDCool]

do they have to play in order?.its more efficient to start with baseball and keep the best run and then do the rest normally

[@sportsjefe]

yes, the list must be in order.

[@j.k.59]

Forbidden Memories music is fitting considering that speedrun is also a bastard

[@HarryTaussig0]

i see you on the super mario strikers "the classroom" background music on wii bowling. i love that song

[@jinkusuSPL]

MRJIMMYSTEEL MAKES AN APPEARANCE WITHIN 22 SECONDS LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@PratosKS]

When watching a video about a speedrun is 3x longer than just watching the speedrun.

[@Palkreuploads]

While the music itself could use some tweaks, I love the effort you put into the visualizer

[@ZaItan1]

Yaah wii sports! I used to play so much Wii sports resort archery. Love the dog pics at the end, except they got slammed with KZbin banners

[@ashethetransbian]

great video, was a really fun deep dive into how insane Wii sports speed runs are

[@Tichi20]

So glad I stayed until the end of the video 😍

[@fosui7424]

6:10 it's not really random, it's about hitting the pocket so the pins bounce properly. Throwing without much hook and quickly makes this much easier to leave up

[@kirigherkins]

Ah yes I definitely know what these baseball terms mean, I... I love sports! I'm a pro!

[@gamingwithahandicapreviews]

Lunatic do a video on the original Tak and the Power of Juju on GameCube that game has an insane speedrun!!

[@sampsqwantch4612]

oh i just eat this kind of stuff up 😂 i love watching speedrunning stuff even if ill never speedrun anything except life 😂😂

[@ryanhinson7329]

Idk if this will get to a speedrunner of this category but for baseball throwing a right splitter every single time is the most consistent way to get three outs since it’s almost impossible to hit and the only issue would be the ai not swinging but that isn’t much of an issue at a low elo

[@Mr.ShyGuyYT]

This actually sounds like a decent strategy! Basically what some other runners do is similar. Outside fastballs at the lowest speed. I will definitely try this to see how well it works!

[@BearEnjoyer]

you want them to hit the ball so you have 3 pitches instead of 9

[@dakotah3875]

I remember as a kid trying to beat the sword fighting one as well as the boating one

[@icyrhodes2738]

Baseball’s luck of the draw is hilarious because actually playing baseball feels like this. It’s a game of averages so you are at the mercy of the game most of the time. It’s a game where you can everything right and still lose.

[@Iris_and_or_George]

Hahaha tthe segment names! Tennis, PAIN, bowling hahaha

[@tobymax10]

Me and my friends play the golf all the time on his Wii and we even found a way to make it into a drinking game

[@cougar2013]

Take a shot when our boy says “by FAR”

[@saraussai9589]

then there’s poofesure ☠️

[@lucagacy]

Fire vid! Reminds me of older karl jobst vids in the best way! Its hella concise but also goes into the relevant details

[@Olm-]

“moonball” is something everyone did when the game first came out lol. it was THE known way to always get a strike. i think everyone just realized on their own it always got a strike or their friends showed them. like i can’t understate how well known this was even right when it came out

[@GenericWBrand]

We get it, you knew before everyone else did lmao

[@Armi1P]

"Now here's a dog" lol what

[@6t6rnxl]

Only thing on my mind is when is Poofesure gonna get all his plat medals

[@jacobbabcock8943]

I'm loving that half the comments here are all people mentioned in the video

[@Mr.ShyGuyYT]

we got a touch excited lol

[@daltonhausman5127]

Hey everyone, so I’m not a speedrunner but I love learning about it, and I noticed that during all of the baseball pitching sections of these runs, the pitches were quite slow. I used to play a lot of Wii baseball and learned that if you quickly flick your wrist while holding the remote, you can throw pitches upwards of 90mph, which should theoretically be harder for the computers to hit, no? I have no idea if this has already been tried or anything, just wanted to put it out there in case it could help shave some more time on baseball (:

[@Mr.ShyGuyYT]

we want outs in 1 pitch, fast throws would mean they wont hit it and 3 pitch minimum per out

[@woodmon35]

How is physically tampering with your controller a "glitch" and not cheating? What's the difference between that and what the DK guy did?

[@realname2566]

You're my before bed channel don't worry I'll be watching. For now here's a comment and a thumbs up

[@YouTubestopsharingmyrealname]

What's up with that glitch at the end? Counts to 9, then black screen and audio skip...

[@iGNighters]

I saw the community post about the dog and clicked immediately where the dog man Edit: I FOUND THE DOG!

[@LunaticJ]

Watch until the end :)

[@iGNighters]

⁠WAIT THERES TWO DOGS??? This literally can’t get better best wr video EVER!

[@GreaterJan]

2:56 beef boss appearance

[@dylanmorris5253]

Thank you 4 am KZbin recommended feed

[@Synthali]

Is there a rule against starting with baseball?

[@Dziaji]

Why does a ground ball Result in an out as soon as an infielder fields the ball? It’s been decades since I watched or played baseball, but I’m still pretty sure someone needs to tag the player with the ball, or step on 1st base while in possession of the ball, to get an out after the ball touches the ground directly after making contact with the bat. The game just says “out” as soon as it gets in the glove of the infielder…

[@SirTylerGolf]

Haha there are many many things in Wii sports baseball that are not even close to following the real rules, that's just how the game is for some reason, it's the least accurate baseball simulator I've ever seen

[@ekg8609]

Oh my GOD. I thought the record was beaten, not disintegrated

[@RMNDolphy]

love the dog part

[@NovaSolarsis835]

Amazing video! Btw, whats the song at 15:58? I've been trying to find that song for a while and cant lol

[@jacktenders]

it says it in the corner, starfall village

[@SilasAdra]

Baseball seems like RRRNG if you know what I mean

[@MattFromWiiSportsOfficial]

epic video!! 😎

[@Zel-Veraan]

Knowing speedrunners, they'll be doing the expert holes by 2025. Mayber earlier.

[@SirTylerGolf]

Nope, never, the hole in one featured on hole 7 at the end of the video requires 1/48 odds to even get a chance, then you need to press A frame perfectly to stop aiming in the right spot, then you need to get a ridiculously precise power on the shot. I have tens of thousands of attempts in expert and have only ever gotten 2 hole in ones. There is a much much easier hole in one strat on the first hole of intermediate (we're talking going from ~1/10000 to ~1/20) that saves more time than doing expert

[@d-man9921]

Can't you just play baseball as first to get it over with early or last so its effects don't mess you up in the middle of the speedrun? Or do you have to play the sports in order?

[@Mr.ShyGuyYT]

Have to play the sports in order

[@SirTylerGolf]

Baseball first would be worse anyway, tennis is also extremely reset heavy, but it doesn't get talked about nearly as much as baseball because it's the first sport so it matters less.

[@Tee-ina-Skee-Mask]

i had a method with bowling that used a curve but was guaranteed a strike every time

[@pinktooth5473]

2:22 " HHWHAT?..."

[@ivanmoraess]

Boa, Felipe Melo

[@Dennaton]

And rymac got this run…

[@Itzak15]

It takes like 7 minutes just to load the game

[@ryanlackie1129]

Does the order of executing the sports matter? If not, why not go baseball first and just quit the run if you don’t beat a specific time

[@aclonymous]

yes, rules say you have to do it in menu order

[@SirTylerGolf]

Baseball first would make tennis absolute hell, even worse than the current status of baseball, the order of the games is pretty much perfect already, the only change people would maybe make is golf before bowling

[@GamesintoMovies]

Near perfect run. Love your vids

[@jeunonn]

did I just see my own Mii??

[@imthemistermaster]

Bro I figured out the moonball strat at like 9 years old, although I only used one hand

[@whtiequillBj]

why is a barrier such as the "7-minute barrier" between 7:00.000 and 7:59:999 and not between 6:00.000 and 6:59.999? wouldn't the 7-minute or whatever-minute barrier make more sense to be between 6:00:000 and 6:59.999 cause you broke 7 minutes. Is there a historical reason why minute barriers are named as such?

[@ridebiking]

There’s only 1 person who broke the 7 minute barrier and that’s because their time was Sub 7. Sub 7 means less than seven. So 6:59 and below. You might have confused what you heard. Everybody was going for sub 7. No one achieved it except for one

[@pedrolizardo7704]

17:41 hands shaking as hell, look at the cursor lol

[@bowserjr476]

One piece shirt spotted, instant subscription 🙏

[@huebus]

When is Poof getting on this?

[@jane5886]

Here for the speedrunning but as someone that works outside all day: please use sunscreen 😭

[@Coldddpalmer]

'Disconnect' shots does not sound very legitimate

[@SirTylerGolf]

Just as legitimate as anything else, all done on original hardware

[@PR0per6RAMmar]

Great video, but I’m sorry speedrunners didn’t break anything for three years. It was luck and perseverance

[@Looshington]

why not just run baseball last? or does it have to in order?

[@SirTylerGolf]

Baseball last would make it way worse

[@Looshington]

@@SirTylerGolf I suppose. In my head it would benefit the runner in the sense that they don’t have skilled events remaining AFTER baseball. Not as much pressure on those events like bowling and golf to be perfect because you’re not on pace for a perfect run until you get lucky with baseball. Basically just trying to minimize the pressure factor in the speedrun.

[@SirTylerGolf]

@@Looshington I see what you mean, and it can be quite counterintuitive to figure out an optimal order to do things, but it's quite formulaic, while not perfect, looking at things like "average timeloss per minute" and the odds of a reset worthy timeloss for each split can make the optimal order clear. Runners might reset a higher percentage of baseball segments than tennis segments, but where tennis is something like 8 times shorter than baseball, it's easier to play a couple minutes for a good tennis to have a 10% chance at a good baseball than it is to play for half an hour for a good baseball to have a 20% chance at a good tennis.

[@Looshington]

@@SirTylerGolf Got it. I definitely wasn’t considering Average timeloss per minute enough. I’m sure to some degree there’s also a misunderstanding or slight exaggeration in how “easy” or “straightforward” the game modes like Tennis are. I don’t doubt that the speedrunners have it mathematically figured out, that’s for sure🤣🤣! Basically because you can get more attempts with baseball being 2nd via reset point, it’s more effecient. Makes total sense. I was just thinking in a vacuum of specifically eliminating the pressure to perform on the less RNG based events!

[@DiamondOrPoor78]

Speedrunning a game that isn't purely skill-based just seems awful

[@daveyjones7391]

Amazing! Big congrats!

[@askenneddy]

Amazing video!

[@cleava959]

Another Wii game banger video!!

[@TheDensemilk]

Great videos man, thanks

[@bradenramirez69]

Ngl none of this made sense to me but entertaining nonetheless

[@DanDCool]

17:37 whyd he wait 2 seconds here edit: oh slow motion ok

[@Wato-1876]

that is insane....

[@paulg9019]

My toxic trait is thinking I could easily do this 😂

[@lance7380]

Conjuring pepper