Adjusting the Color Vector Wells Gardner Monitor In A 1981 Atari Tempest Arcade Game

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@maccustoms2295
@maccustoms2295 4 жыл бұрын
That sound during the screen test was the machine's heart beat. Ron brought it back to live.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
Thump Thump... thump Thump....
@robertcurtis3815
@robertcurtis3815 3 жыл бұрын
I think I want to repair vector CRT monitors for a job just like you Ron! I think it's wonderful!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
You can do it man, thanks for watching!
@adailyllama4786
@adailyllama4786 4 жыл бұрын
Another favorite game. Glad to see it coming back to life! Head phone wearers noise heads-up at 8:45. :)
@tcb8295
@tcb8295 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Thanks! Degaussing ring ... used one when used for color TV & early computer monitor repair... when they still had CRTs...LoL
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
They're pretty cool, back in the day I made one out of the ring off of a t.v. set, the built in degauss ring, I just put a switch on it, lol
@steeveedee8478
@steeveedee8478 4 жыл бұрын
I made a degaussing ring by sticking two transformer plugs into a multi-extension socket and energising it and then wiping it around the screen on a monitor at work several years ago. Worked a treat!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes if you have a really old drill you can use that too if it has a large enough electric motor on it!
@diddrumdontdrum
@diddrumdontdrum 4 жыл бұрын
Great repair series. Was fun to be along for the ride! Look forward to the next project. Keep ‘em comin’ Ron!
@pezjohnson
@pezjohnson 4 жыл бұрын
Man that picture is SHARP! Like the spikes! Good job and great work on the series.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah there's nothing like a vector monitor they look great....
@roiberadcnoic5862
@roiberadcnoic5862 4 жыл бұрын
Love watching your video it's so great watching you restore them old 80s arcade machines great fun 😀😀😀😀😀
@spidermcgavenport
@spidermcgavenport 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite Atari games Tempest! Thanks gentlemen greatly appreciated repair video I want that game with the Vector screen!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Spider, it's pretty cool! We'll see you on the next video.
@NivagSwerdna
@NivagSwerdna 4 жыл бұрын
@12:58 the music and moving lines clearly are some kind of hypnotic trick to get people to click the amazon links
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
You figured me out!
@DavidWilliams-rn6uq
@DavidWilliams-rn6uq 4 жыл бұрын
Ron, on some cameras you can set a longer exposure time - which will normally cause everything to get much much brighter, so you have to change the aperature to let less light in or adjust the sensitivity. It can be done, but it makes for a slow frame rate, hard to capture the fast action like on Tempest. The adjusted screen looks awesome, thanks for filming! Brings back some great memories!
@grfeld84
@grfeld84 4 жыл бұрын
Another great repair video! I loved playing Tempest! Great to see it up and running! Thank you!
@macdaddyns
@macdaddyns 4 жыл бұрын
Space duel and gravitar were also great vectors, gotta toss in Battle Zone and Armor Attack.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely! I loved Star Castle too.
@DavidWilliams-rn6uq
@DavidWilliams-rn6uq 4 жыл бұрын
Ron, you can kill the red flip things by firing when they are right next to you. You did it at 23:36.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
It's hard to keep it straight when everything's moving fast :)
@glennmolnar
@glennmolnar 4 жыл бұрын
Great job! this was my favorite game to play at the arcade back in the day!!
@WreckDiver99
@WreckDiver99 3 жыл бұрын
Level 11 (Bowling Alley) is where I started having troubles. Loved this game as a kid, and still to nearly 40 years later. Every one of these I've been able to find has monitor issues, or the bigger one...the spinner knob won't register properly. Still on the hunt to find one...someday. My wife is 100% against it, which means I'm REALLY wanting one now...would love to have this, asteroids, a few pinball machines, ...yea...full arcade in the basement? YES PLEASE!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
you can do it :) Thanks for watching WreckDiver99 as always
@WreckDiver99
@WreckDiver99 3 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade I'll let SWMBO know it's "Ron Approved" ROFLMAO!
@MegaAndroyd
@MegaAndroyd 4 жыл бұрын
ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD.
@steeveedee8478
@steeveedee8478 4 жыл бұрын
Despite being totally crap at this game it was always a favourite.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
It has a really interesting look to the gameplay, makes it even better....
@aitorbleda8267
@aitorbleda8267 4 жыл бұрын
It is amazing how primitive the video output is.. I can't stop but think in progressive "modern" frame buffer video graphics!
@MrVectrex
@MrVectrex 4 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? I´ve been here all the time! Just watched another interesting video about a Stern Stingray while you messing around with your colors. 😆. Just kidding! Thanks for another great upload. 👍
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks MrVectrex we appreciate you stopping by!
@marksmith-ew7ir
@marksmith-ew7ir 4 жыл бұрын
Great fix keep coming on
@MarksGoneWicked
@MarksGoneWicked 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite coin-op games.
@DigitalConfusion
@DigitalConfusion 4 жыл бұрын
The camera problems you are talking about was the reason for season 2 of Stranger Things to use LCD screens in their arcade machines. If you look at the game closeups, you will notice the bezel doesn't match the screen size. Actually a bit sad they couldn't work around that for that series ^^. Dragon's Lair deserves a full size monitor. Also... Scanlines...
@chrisfreemesser
@chrisfreemesser 4 жыл бұрын
I seem to recall that the way to kill the walkers was to spin the knob really fast and fire just as you're quickly passing by them. Monitor looks great BTW. Tempest is an all-time classic...Atari was firing on all cylinders back in the early 80s! I really miss them :(
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
Think about how their art department or design department was operating, every single game that Atari was putting out had a killer look to it. Centipede, Dig Dug, Xevious, Star Wars, Battlezone, Asteroids, Asteroids Deluxe, Tempest, The list goes on and on and on.... all the way up to the 90's they didn't really even make a game that didn't have incredible art and cabinet design that i'm aware of.
@chrisfreemesser
@chrisfreemesser 4 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade Have you read the book "The Art of Atari" by Tim Lapetino or seen the "Art of Atari Poster Collection" also by Tim? The book is an awesome look into Atari's art department back then and the posters are killer. I made some Atari 2600-esque frames and have some of the posters hanging on my office walls at work (I work in IT so this geeky stuff is expected, lol)!
@harvey66616
@harvey66616 2 жыл бұрын
_"spin the knob really fast and fire just as you're quickly passing by them"_ -- that'll work if you get lucky. But the actual way to do it is to fire when your piece is immediately adjacent to the walker.
@Ajaxaxxess
@Ajaxaxxess 4 жыл бұрын
Looks great man!
@EngineeringVignettes
@EngineeringVignettes 4 жыл бұрын
How does one sync a camera to a vector display? There is a refresh but it's going all over the place (not a raster). Thanks for the new vid, vector displays are a special kind of magic in arcade systems. Cheers,
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
Even though I work on all this old electronic stuff I'm not much of a techie, so i'm not sure... my camera can't sync to it anyways, i'm just using a point and shoot with minimal adjustments... The way I understand it yes it does refresh at a certain rate like rasters but yeah I'm not sure how you'd overcome that. It seems like you'd have to have your shutter speed set at a perfect division of whatever the refresh rate is... You might be able to do it by slightly extending the time the shutter is open, so that it would stay open long enough to catch two cycles of the refresh or whatever. I'm sure somebody with a nice camera could probably tinker with some settings long enough to get a good video.
@williamsudbrink4187
@williamsudbrink4187 4 жыл бұрын
Hi score! Great job Ron! Treat yourself to a box of wine. By the way, when the "guy" is walking around the top with you, shoot right when he's next to you, that will kill him.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
I was able to pull it off a little bit but it's tricky!
@kevinlaheney4885
@kevinlaheney4885 4 жыл бұрын
Great !!!! Now I have to have a Tempest,,I just can’t quit you,,lol.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
It's a lot more fun that I thought it was the last time I played one, lol
@hubzcaps
@hubzcaps 4 жыл бұрын
those draw each object 1 at a time cool
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah you can kind of tell what it's doing since the camera messes it up....
@opticaltrace4382
@opticaltrace4382 4 жыл бұрын
Used to love this game but super hard. Only game I found harder than this was Defender. Tempest reminds me of another vector game I loved... Major Havoc Have you repaired one of those? I'd love to see that video
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a Major Havoc, they're very rare.
@chrisfreemesser
@chrisfreemesser 4 жыл бұрын
Robotron 2084 was hard AF as well!
@scrapman502
@scrapman502 4 жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever taught you how to properly use a degausing coil? I was taught you turn it on close to the center of the screen and you make a large circle with the coil over the screen and you keep making the circle as you pull it away. when you are far enough away from the screen with the coil, pull it to the side and then that's when you shut it off.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
I've only worked on I dunno, 10 thousand arcade game monitors, how many have you degaussed again? Go correct somebody else.
@scrapman502
@scrapman502 4 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcadePlease check out this You-tube video on Purity errors on televisions." kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaG5fZywdq2Vr5Y&feature=emb_title. " I've only worked on say about 10 thousand Televisions from 1988 to Present. I've repaired every type of electronic device from Vcr's , televisions, Stereo's, Cd players, tape decks, 8-tracks, camcorders, you name it, I've fixed it. Televisions are my specialty. I know what I'm talking about. I know that when you move around a CRT television the screen sometimes gets messed up more than the internal degaussing coil can over-come. and just flicking on a degaussing coil for a split second will cause parts of the screen to be magnetized.
@scrapman502
@scrapman502 4 жыл бұрын
I need to make a slight correction. Make that 1986 to present. I totally forgot I took Electronics in high-school and worked on color televisions then. I also need to mention My father purchased about 14 Arcade games from a local Showbiz Pizza from when they closed in 1986 and among those games were 2 Atari Tempest, 1 Cockpit Starwars, and 1 Gravitar. I FIXED Every Single one! How old were you then? I still remember a thing or two.
@stevebabiak6997
@stevebabiak6997 Ай бұрын
The way I was taught to turn off the degaussing coil follows. Turn the coil so that it is perpendicular to the face of the screen and oriented vertically. Then back off from the face of the screen. Turn it off when no further interaction with the display is noticeable. Also, there are additional considerations to degaussing. Most important is orientation of the display with respect to the Earth’s poles. If you change this orientation, you should degauss afterwards. Also, any metal in the case would be reason to degauss with the case on. And other electric and electronic devices nearby also could introduce magnetic interference that could be incorrectable even via degaussing.
@alexblanco9687
@alexblanco9687 4 жыл бұрын
The waving is probably that missing shield in the high voltage box
@memyopinionsche6610
@memyopinionsche6610 4 жыл бұрын
Your camera dose better with this game than it did with star wars.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's because there's less on the screen or something, what screwed me up is I filmed all this stuff and it looks pretty good on the screen on the camera but then when you watch the video back it's messed up!
@andymouse
@andymouse 4 жыл бұрын
That's great, looks fantastic...is the HV cage all covered up ? i think you said that can make it wiggle if its not !..also De Gauss is just getting rid of unwanted magnetism with an AC field...great vid, cheers.
@memyopinionsche6610
@memyopinionsche6610 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a Google search for professional laser light system makes asteroids. It's pretty cool.
@-abacchus
@-abacchus 4 жыл бұрын
You know what's wierd, Ron? During the test at 12:00, I stuck a rubber glove on my head and started impersonating a chicken..!?
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
Hypnotized your ass!
@shadowninja1474
@shadowninja1474 4 жыл бұрын
New Ronnie-ism T shirt slogan 👕 "What do you think about that?" I am telling you Ron you need to cash in on Donnie-ism and Ronnie-ism T-shirt merch.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to get bored with that one I'm going to move on to some new ones soon, Donnie comes up with new ones constantly I don't think he even realizes he's doing it, lol
@shadowninja1474
@shadowninja1474 4 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade No I love it. I find myself inadvertently saying it to my wife now. 😆
@marceloabreu669
@marceloabreu669 4 жыл бұрын
#sensacional
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marcelo we appreciate you watching!
@sturkrazee288
@sturkrazee288 4 жыл бұрын
I dont blame you. Color convergence rings make me cringe as well
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
I've tried it many times If it's way off, if it's just slightly off I can't get it any better.
@DeadKoby
@DeadKoby 4 жыл бұрын
11:58 Sounds like Cardi B's next hit record.
@LisaMontgomery79
@LisaMontgomery79 4 жыл бұрын
Ron, if you turn these machines off at night, as opposed to keeping them running. Can it be problematic to keep turning them on and off? The reason I ask is 2 people I know who have these machines in their homes usually have problems crop up after turning them on that were previously working fine when they shut them off. Is this just a coincidence or could power surges from turning them on and off have something to do with it. I apologize if this is a naive question, I am not at all knowledgeable about electronics, just wondering.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
That's a good question, I think yes sometimes when you turn them on the power surge damages some things... but leaving them on all the time is probably more damaging because of the heat and the wear on the monitor. So in my opinion it's better to turn them off and just turn them on when you're going to play them or look at them, but yeah sometimes that's going to make stuff stop working. If you leave them on all the time something is going to fail just from the heat.
@LisaMontgomery79
@LisaMontgomery79 4 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade Thanks so much for replying Ron. I appreciate your response, and your videos.
@CrimFerret
@CrimFerret 4 жыл бұрын
I always liked this game, but was consistently so bad at it that it wasn't worth dumping quarters in very often. Emulators and LCD replacement screens do not come close to the same look whether color or black and white. I don't imagine there are any new monitors like this being made.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah they don't make them anymore unfortunately, but there are hobbyists who have made copies of all the boards, but nobody has been able to make new tubes yet. I believe in the future someone wil though. Until then we have to use t.v. tubes out of old t.v. sets!
@castarmax1970
@castarmax1970 4 жыл бұрын
LOVE the videos. Would be much easier to watch if you used a tripod. Video would be much better quality plus you'd have 2 hands and we could see you actually working. :)
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
John didn't I shoot this video with a Tripod? How in the hell would it be much better quality if I used a tripod when I used a tripod in this video? Shows me you didn't even watch it, please go complain to somebody else about the low quality of their videos, i have enough to worry about without random people telling me my videos aren't good enough.
@castarmax1970
@castarmax1970 4 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade I did not mean to sound negative or critical. I apologize because obviously you took it that way. Yes you did use a tripod in this one but generally not. I just happened to be watching this one when I decided to comment. I'm hoping to see you actually work instead of holding up a part ,explaining what your gonna do and doing it with one hand or off cam. I'm VERY impressed with what you do and appreciate your love of the old games. Your videos are good enough. Was simply offering a suggestion of how to let the people who watch it enjoy it just a little bit more :)
@memyopinionsche6610
@memyopinionsche6610 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like tempest trying to be KZbin web driver torso test.
@katilynnschwab2485
@katilynnschwab2485 3 жыл бұрын
Joe arcade classic turns off the lights
@AronGreen
@AronGreen 4 жыл бұрын
Half tempted to buy some really questionable stuff just to see what you'd say about it.
@TheFanOrTheMask
@TheFanOrTheMask 4 жыл бұрын
wish I could make it bigger, might give me more luck with women
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard there's a surgery but I never really looked into it (I have no problems believe me folks)
@naytch2003
@naytch2003 Жыл бұрын
You two are talking about your....bank accounts right..?😆
@se7enity648
@se7enity648 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but I had to stop watching this video. The pulsing and flickering of the screen gave me such a monster headache I had to stop. Sorry. I will stick to pinball repairs instead.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
sorry for your sickness, you may want to have that looked at by a doctor
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