Repairing and Testing the Color Vector WG6100 Monitor in a 1981 Atari Tempest Arcade Game

[@AzrialAlaria]

Most of these restored Vector games are now running on an LCD or CRT monitor conversion. It's VERY rare to see these running on original Vector monitors. This is a special treat! Very hard to fix or replace these components.

[@LyonsArcade]

I like em original 😎

[@AzrialAlaria]

@@LyonsArcade Me too friend, me too.

[@timheldt674]

I've had a Tempest machine since the mid 80's and it stopped working about 20 years ago. Just ordered the LV2000 today, and hopefully it will live again. thanks so much for your information!

[@FreezerBurn.]

What other channel offers in depth repairs on nostalgic history, the possibility of fire and electrocution, bleeding, spanish lessons and UK slang! This place really does have it all!

[@LyonsArcade]

We're equal opportunity offenders around here, we're appropriating Spanish and English culture all the time, lol

[@badone65]

Tempest is one of my Top-3 favorite games of all time. My friends and I played the hell out of this game in our local arcade in Norcross, GA in the early 80's. I want this game in my home arcade...if I can ever find it! Great series and I appreciate the work you do! Good night from Dacula, GA which is where I am!

[@macdaddyns]

A lot of people would have sent the monitor out for repair. You da wizard! Speaking of, I played at the Wizard, Fairlanes, Maritime Billiards,Quinpool Amusements,Backstreet Imports and a couple malls. No wonder you know about oak island, you are constantly reviving these gems. Thanks!

[@TortureBot]

You talking about Oak Island , NC? Vacation there every year.

[@macdaddyns]

TortureBot Ron chatted me on Oak Island Nova Scotia canada

[@RnR89]

Dayton, TN. Use to walk over to the Jiffy 7-11 gas station with quarters I scrounged around the house and play this for hours back in early 80's. The Dazed and Confused age kids played the pinball machine while rocked the Tempest.

[@DK640OBrianYT]

Tempest. The one and only. Perfect timing being 13-14 years of age when this thing was brought to market.

[@ronv1725]

Your videos are the best thing on KZbin. I played Tempest when I was ~ 12 years old (1981-82) at a sandwich shop in Syracuse NY. Thanks for all the great information.

[@tcb8295]

Joe, love these videos of you repairing these Vintage oldies, but goodys. Played Tempest at Skate Odyssey, Tampa FL circa 1980-82. And there were Shakey's Pizza in town back then too!

[@LyonsArcade]

Skate Odyssey, what a great name, ha! Thanks for watching TCB 82 we appreciate it!

[@markf2k]

Worked on a few of these at a distributor in Omaha, Nebraska, back in ‘87 and ‘88. They weren’t very reliable back then, so I’m amazed some are still alive.

[@ferndog1461]

We have one in our retro arcade, Game Preserve, north Houston, TX. It is broken at the moment, however. Im sharing this vid with the managers.

[@icondonnied]

I played Tempest at the Old Towne arcade at the Southwyck Mall in Toledo, Ohio. This arcade was so big, when they replaced it with a movie theatre, they were able to fit 6 screens in it. This place had an animated shooting range, and a bunch or carnival games as well. When it went out of business, we bought an upright Battle Zone from them... Wish I still had that. I do have a Rock N Bowl and a Pop A Slots sitting in my living room...

[@LyonsArcade]

Wow that’s pretty wild the place sounded huge!

[@Kae6502]

I played the game at the Aladdin's Castle Arcade at Memorial Mall in Sheboygan, Wisconsin. I remember when it came out and seeing it for the first time. There was a line of kids waiting to play it, but that gave us a chance to figure it out and see how it was played! When I got my Apple ][+ I had a game called "Tubeway" that was a clone of this. Thanks for the video!

[@KatsCreations85]

"Yeah. He said touch it in the back!" (zapping sound) I thought I was the only one who remembered that Jerky Boys bit.

[@davidriddle9612]

I honestly thought that I was the only person left that remembered the jerky boys

[@LyonsArcade]

It's honestly one of the funniest things I've ever heard. That and Terrorist Pizza holy hell they couldn't do that stuff anymore...

[@TortureBot]

@@LyonsArcade "My wife is throwing up, my kids are throwing up. Maybe you poison everybody!"

[@amycarreiro9445]

Coupons you’re talking about coupons

[@johnwilson7722]

First played at Billiards and Bagels in Gresham Oregon, early 80's if I remember right. Great video. Love watching you bring these classics back to life.

[@parker1ray]

We went to Shakeys Pizza in Waterloo Iowa in the early 70's and played this at Skateland!

[@MrVectrex]

I found out it´s actually realy easy to get addicted to these videos! Thanks Ron and thumb up from me. :)

[@LyonsArcade]

Thanks MrVectrex!

[@markl1129]

Hey Joe’s! Used to play Tempest at Gene’s Games and Grinders in Rochester N.H. Early 1980’s! Love your channel!

[@mikekelly9129]

Hits like, reclines back in the chair, knows its gonna be another great view 👍

[@MrDsmen]

oooh yeah, just finished watching the first one and Ron delivers the sequel! Heck yeah!

[@andywallace9186]

Thank you so much for making these videos! Fascinating educational and entertaining.

[@LyonsArcade]

Glad you like them! We'll have more soon....

[@arcadefussell3185]

We had a Shakey's Pizza in Keizer Oregon way back in the day. I remember it from the mid 1970's. ( I am slightly older than you Ron) They had a giant stone fireplace that burned wood logs. I remember sitting on the giant stone hearth and feeling the warmth from the fire. Talk about atmosphere. They had a cocktail TANK game I remember playing with my dad. They had some cool electromechanical shooting game with prehistoric creatures that flew by as targets. I have often wondered what happened to those machines. Interesting, it seems Tempest is one color vector you seem to encounter in the wild more than others. I just remember sucking at at. Sure is a masterpiece of a game.

[@LyonsArcade]

I would guess that Tempest was the most popular color vector, I'll bet they made more of them than any of the other ones.. but there's only about 12 or so of them as I remember! Now finding a Tempest Cocktail, THAT'S rare. I can't believe they had a fireplace in the pizza joint! That's awesome. When I was a kid I lived in Fresno California, I was really little but believe it or not there was a place out there called Pizza and Pipes, there was a building with a HUGE pipe organ built into the building, the exterior was all windows and the windows were full of the pipes for the organ. I'm talking like... 4 or 500 different pipes (as I remember it). So you'd go in and they had a little room with arcade games in it, but the whole center of the building was stadium type levels, with tables to sit and eat at, and a pipe organ right in the center of the building. A guy would sit there and take requests that you dropped off with a little piece of paper and a tip, and he'd play the organ the whole time, the entire building made the noise because the pipes were everywhere. I just found out about Shakey's recently (I'd never even heard of it).. and when I looked it up, it was in a building that I've been in 100 times (a pawn shop) but never knew it used to be the pizza joint. Very cool to find out stuff like that hiding right under your nose!

[@chrisfreemesser5707]

I'm sure I played Tempest in a multitude of different places back in the day, but the ones I definitely remember was a place I worked at while in college in the late '80s/early '90s...Dan's Computers in East Rochester NY. Dan had a Tempest and a Demolition Derby machine in the back storage room...we'd play a few games when taking breaks or needing to blow off steam.

[@LyonsArcade]

That's very cool Chris, it's awesome how these things were everywhere. Who knows this might be THAT same game...

[@MikeBramm]

We still have Shakey's Pizza here in Southern California.

[@LyonsArcade]

What a name 😎

[@ferndog1461]

The Shakeys in Hollywood, Los Angeles? Wow! Pizza, Mountain Dew pitchers, & 6 arcade machines. Late 70s, early 80s childhood fun!

[@jefftreseder4358]

We had Shakey's Pizza in Salt Lake. LOVED that big brass Bombay taxi horn they'd honk when an order was up.

[@montarion]

Sadly I never played Tempest in an arcade back in the day. I only ever came across it once at the Anderton & Rowlands travelling funfair. But I opted to spend my money on playing Race Drivin' instead!! Finally managed to actually play it a couple of years ago at Arcade Club in Manchester. This week however, me & my bro finally managed to get one all of our own. Was playing blind like this one, but now is all up and running again! This one had blown fuses and transistors! Luckily my bro knows how to fix em cos we've had a Star Wars for a long time!

[@LyonsArcade]

Very cool man that’s awesome you were able to fix it!

[@diddrumdontdrum]

Grrrreat!! There’s a part 3. Bring it forth buddy!!

[@LyonsArcade]

It will be out Thursday!

[@alfreddumas4611]

Used to play this at the Funspot locations in Dover and Wier's Beach NH

[@LyonsArcade]

Very cool, I used to love playing the games at the beach...

[@BaZzZaa]

Minges need to setup shop here in the UK amen 🙏

[@LyonsArcade]

One of these days!

[@cwwhg]

@@LyonsArcade Well they already have a farmhouse not too far away from where I live so I don't see why they don't add a farm shop as well - tinyurl.com/y5b2g88m 😂 Thanks for another great video Ron!

[@mre9789]

I grew up in Winston-Salem N.C. and we played Tempest at an arcade called Fort Tilt and another called Aladdin's Castle.

[@LyonsArcade]

Fort Tilt, that's a great name. We had an Aladdin's Castle in the mall here too just down the road in Rock Hill!

[@rkm-amusements2271]

I played these in a snackbar as a kid (called Fituur in the Netherlands) while we were waiting for our food. As I remeber there was A Tempest, Bombjack and ( a pinballmachine that was a different one every month ) next to each other. To bad these machine's are no longer in these locations.

[@andymouse]

Result !!.... testing the transistors at the end of the harness is a great move and finding a dry joint on the base of the transistor is a great catch ! (no base drive ..no dice ! ) as much as I like the pinball vids I do love the video games too ..Interesting how my fellow Brits are seeing a business opportunity for your printing friends..Haha!......I look forward to the final setup and play vid...cheers.

[@TortureBot]

Wait. I thought it was a resistor he found that had a bad solder joint? Was there a bad joint on a transistor, too?

[@andymouse]

@@TortureBot The resistor connects to the transistor via a solder joint, it was this junction of the two components that had failed...solder joints connect components.

[@xxDADDYDAYCARExx]

Used to play in Dublin in ‘Rays Plaice’ which was a fish and chip shop..... always had two arcade machines in the corner of a small enough shop for waiting for your food...... it used to rake in a fortune for him. Around 1985 - 1990??

[@Groome007]

Another entertaining video Ron - Even if you *do* go four-wheeling through a mud-pit with your Multi-Meter before you start filming! (haha) First played "Tempest" at "Laser Palace" back in 82' ... but my fondest memories were about 10 years later when my boss gifted me the cocktail version ... It was a bit beat-up, but everything worked ... Except, well ... (surrpise, surprise) the monitor was messed up. I took it to "John's jukes" and they fixed it up for me ... After that, my friends and I had many late nights playing Tempest. Definitely a classic and a very fun and unique game. :)

[@Practicedummy1]

Played this at a Marsh supermarket in my hometown. :D

[@davy_K]

Minge is slang for a lady's private parts here in the UK. pronounced like "minj". :) Anyhow - WHAT A GAME. Loved this in the arcade. Played this in the 147 club in Belfast, Northern Ireland. it was called that because you could play snooker and pool in there too and 147 is the max break score in snooker. Playing this emulated just doesn't cut it. I own one classic cabinet because of space. It was down to this or Asteroids Deluxe. I went for deluxe in the end as Asteroids is my favourite game ever - but this....If I ever get the room this is next.

[@LyonsArcade]

I love asteroids and yeah I’d buy one of those over Tempest too... Atari really had some great games back then! I guess the 147 Club is no longer around?

[@davy_K]

@@LyonsArcade Gone long, long ago sadly. That must have been '85-86 when I was last there regularly.

[@drewpaschal9294]

My favorite game. I own one. Used to work great but the last time I played it (years ago), the play field was collapsed in from the bottom to the center.

[@LyonsArcade]

Usually when it does that it’s because there are bad solder joints that need to be resoldered where the plugs from the frame transistors plug into the deflection board. Have fun with it!

[@harvesterofsorrow4930]

I think I first played Tempest at the local Chuck E Cheese when I was about 7 or so. Also, greetings from Kentucky.

[@tenjuna]

They had one in the kids clothing section of Sears back in the day. I would go to Sears today if they would put one back there.

[@LyonsArcade]

Not to get too morbid but I was reading about Adam Walsh the other day and the eyewitness testimonies, it was like another world. He was playing an Atari that was set up in Electronics, and a couple kids were playing it with him because nobody was playing the Intellivision that was hooked up next to it... then a girl was playing in another area a couple arcade games and the police interviewed her... now here we are all these years later and Sears doesn't' even exist anymore!

[@tenjuna]

@@LyonsArcade those were the days though, hours and hours of playing Atari at the K-Mart or Toys-R-Us. I would give a lot to go back to the 80s.

[@jefftreseder4358]

I played Tempest at the 49th Street Galleria in Salt Lake City.

[@mrkevt542]

Love the channel.

[@LyonsArcade]

Thanks Kevin, we appreciate you watching!

[@dewitt310]

i would love to see your blooper video's.

[@jcbecker2800]

Cisco's Pizza in Jacksonville, FL when I was a kid

[@Mdrailer1]

I played it on Saturdays at a spawn's ice cream shop in Weirton, WV. I would save up money from delivering papers and my friends and I would go there after bowling.

[@LyonsArcade]

Spawn's Ice Cream, that's great. I used to live in Charleston, WV and played my first arcade games there too...

[@justmanny9275]

"I didn't hear any high voltage." lol! I wish I had that skill

[@LyonsArcade]

You can hear it, there's like a crackle if the anode is working and a really high hiss, Joey is really good at it he hears it better than I do.

[@TortureBot]

@@LyonsArcade I heard the crackle right when you fired it up the final time.

[@swilwerth]

Actually you can smell it too and see it moving the spiderwebs around the back of ther CRT. It smells like ozone. It sounds like static discharge crackle. It hurts like hell if you catch it with your fingers. You can get "the experience" wetting the front glass of the crt with a wet paper towel. Then turning on the device while keeping the back of the hand near the glass. I got accidentally shocked that way many times after cleaning the front glass of a TV crt with a midly wet rag.

[@christianmorin3647]

Nice job!

[@nintendolunchbox]

The San Antonio bowling alley during my dad bowling league nights . Had my first kiss in the same arcade behind a pac man machine.

[@LyonsArcade]

Pretty wild how these games became part of our best memories.... I've got a few memories of them too that are really special...

[@MoparStephen]

When you crumple up those notes, you now have what we call "wrinkle minge". I know you could make more money with those notepads than you are with your current Amazon deal :) You guys really need to team up and start selling some merch. Please don't be offended. It's my dry British humour kicking in after a really bad day. Seeing a tempest machine get repaired did cheer me up some.

[@LyonsArcade]

If you knew me for a little while, you would know what you're talking about would never, ever, in any way approach offending me, LOL Nothing better than a good dirty joke and the women tell dirtier jokes than the men do

[@tracyr5594]

rolling acres skating rink :)

[@LyonsArcade]

Those were the days :)

[@JRBlood]

Westroads mall arcade and SkateLand in Omaha, NE back in the day! Sucka took a boat-load of my quarters, fur sure. Was it just me or was the red missing?

[@catay411]

Somehow, goat videos with my brother Donnie sounds very disturbing but enticing at the same time, you know it can't be what it sounds like but then, you pray it's not. lol

[@williamsudbrink4187]

Nothin' like a good wine... like some Boones Farm...

[@LyonsArcade]

I prefer mine out of the box!

[@mervace]

Oh, was R926 originally a wire wound resistor? 2 watt it would get quite warm. Hope the carbon resistor is up to the challenge...

[@dave1135]

I looked up minges. In the u.k it is slang for a woman's vajaja or bush. Lol. 😁😂

[@acidburn7683]

Brit here I can confirm this is accurate :D

[@vivanecrosis]

Totally true. Not used in polite company.

[@POOHBEAR2170]

I first played tempest in a pizza restaurant called mr. Gatti’s it was like Chuck E. Cheese but better pizza man I miss that place.

[@TortureBot]

Probably the same as GattiTown. We had one about 25 miles away in Greenville, SC years ago. Was great, but it did not get enough business.

[@sideburn]

Hey Ron, I got a, what was working til it got home, tempest and I’m getting no high voltage to the crt. I checked all 4 transistors and they seem to be ok but the front most wants towards the back of the machine are getting pretty warm. Is this normal? Voltages seem ok too so I’m suspecting the problem is in the hv board that the flyback is connected to or maybe the flyback itself. Just wondering how warm / hot these transistors should be getting.

[@LyonsArcade]

They do run hot… the high voltage does come out of the cage so I’d look over there first. There are a lot of repair threads on klov.com you can read if you like that deal with the 6100!

[@sideburn]

@@LyonsArcade ok good to know. I’ve tested further. This board does not have the LC-K2000 low voltage upgrade and I beleive my issue is the low voltage. I’m not reading any voltage off pin one and 3 on the red connector going into the HV cage. I checked what I could without pulling the deflection board out and all transistors check out ok and I’m getting 33v off the fuses there. One of the zener diodes, is reading differently than the other zn101 i think. I’m getting .9 ohms one way on the diode checker and .5 the other where the other one is reading Open one way and .5 the other… 🤔

[@nintendolunchbox]

Fanny May candy is just as funny

[@LyonsArcade]

I'd never heard of that, thanks, lol

[@80sretrogamer]

i miss vector screens they were so cewl

[@Tr0uBl3Sh00t3R]

Ron, i enjoy watching your videos! But what does the man behind the camera look like??

[@LyonsArcade]

I'm not the star of these videos, the games are :)

[@Jimgat83]

Great video

[@DouglasTitchmarsh]

Another super interesting video 👍🏻

[@webdoc90]

The monitor at the end looks familiar.

[@LyonsArcade]

You're the only one that recognized it :) We're still working on it, we'll let you know when we figure it out, the B+ is stuck at 75 and won't adjust, I think your new flyback might have been bad but the jury's still out! Everything in the power supply tests fine but the flyback creates the voltage that turns on the voltage regulator, i'm still poking around in it...

[@brianangel8201]

Q906 is the driver for the fly back transformer. think of the points (Q906) in a car ignition system and coil (fly back) for a crude ckt operation

[@kazarenko6300]

Loving the videos! When you said low impedance audio grade resistors, did you mean low inductance (and low noise)?

[@-abacchus]

I'm 98.645% sure that Atari were a little too specific with the voltages in their schematics.

[@LyonsArcade]

yeah it's pretty wild :) I ended up nowhere near them either but whatever, LOL

[@markc871]

Great job, these monitors are endangered species.

[@LyonsArcade]

Yeah it's a shame... they have made reproductions of the actual boards, but the CRT you can't get new anymore, if somebody ever starts making new CRT's we'll be good to go. There is a huge market for it, someone will do it eventually. I've heard in the US though there's regulations about the materials used so that may be the hold up. Maybe they could make them in Mexico or something.

[@markc871]

@@LyonsArcade Would be good to know the tube numbers, neck pin configurations and yoke ohm readings that are compatible with the vector chassis. I'm always on the look out for 19" tubes.

[@paulstaf]

Played it at Mr. Gatti's Pizza .... Texas.

[@paulstaf]

In 1964, retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel James R. Eure opened a pizza and hamburger restaurant in his hometown of Stephenville, Texas.[2] He and his wife moved to Austin, Texas; and in 1969, he opened a pizza restaurant in Austin under the name, "The Pizza Place." In order to identify themselves from the rest of the pizza places, Eure undertook a naming contest. Eure's wife's maiden name was Gatti, which soon won out over many other proposed names and The Pizza Place was renamed Mr. Gatti's Pizza.

[@ra4fun4me]

Aladdin’s castle in Burnsville Minnesota

[@chipspencer8040]

Not only dose it help stop the wiggle but it keeps non service personal from lighting them asses up like a lighting bug.lol

[@LyonsArcade]

There's always that, LOL

[@melina001a]

Heya Joe, Umm Minges well in the UK it's rude slang for a ladies privet parts.....

[@steeveedee8478]

Their 'privet parts' - their hedgerows?? I think you mean 'private parts'! :-)

[@xxDADDYDAYCARExx]

Hahahahahaha works both ways the obvious one IS private parts BUT...... privet parts could easily refer to their other favourite euphemism, their ‘lady garden’ as it’s so eloquently put haha All I know is that I would definitely LOVE to live next to a house full of ‘female printers’ 😉😉😉😉😉 P.S. apologies for teasing Minges, well.... maybe they’d love that?? Jesus I just can’t stop!!!! Minges are DEFINITELY addictive?? 🙄🙄

[@melina001a]

@@xxDADDYDAYCARExx dam ya knoiw your slang well!

[@bluetonic9538]

One of the best arcade games ever 👍👍 And I'd love a Minges notepad, in the UK Minge=Pussy

[@lascheque]

Is the hiscore save circuit not working or were they just erased?

[@LyonsArcade]

It seems that he had the board sent out for service and then hasn't been able to play or set a high score on it since, because the monitor's been down.. when I got it up and running I played it and it saved all my scores so I guess I was the first person to play it since the board was serviced.

[@lascheque]

@@LyonsArcade That makes sense. Thanks for the video!

[@LyonsArcade]

You almost found something I did wrong better luck next time!

[@waynegram8907]

I wonder why those Audio White Block Resistors need to be very low Inductance, any reasons why? Any reasons why the original Low Voltage circuit always burned out and got damaged? that is why you have to remove the original components and add in that low voltage circuit board upgrade

[@MrVectrex]

Could it be becouse they are fitted in a AC circuit? But offcourse thats just a guess cos i dont now much about the architecture on the board.

[@TyrannoRex100]

Anders Knudsen - Must be a Danish guy .-D

[@northtustinsteamworks5172]

So what was the final fix for the monitor? Just that resister?

[@LyonsArcade]

I don't know, I'd have to rewatch the video. Or you could watch the video

[@northtustinsteamworks5172]

@@LyonsArcade You didn't say, which is why I asked... :P

[@estpst]

It's still dusty!

[@DigitalConfusion]

You from the future? Daaang. Help a brother out with them lotto numbers. Also great vid as always. :) Also also that last monitor looks like some sony PVM stuff. Just a guess though.

[@dknstrkt]

Brementowne Mall Arcade in Tinley Park Il is where I cut my teeth on Tempest and many others.

[@JeffBarberDigideus]

ik notice you didnt actually say "Minges" in the video :D

[@BluePlanetMedia]

"Mucho" = a lot "Muy" = very

[@DeadKoby]

The audio resistor is low impedance because it's 1.5ohm.... the word you're searching for is NON-INDUCTIVE.

[@LyonsArcade]

Oh yeah you're right I got that screwed around....

[@TheGnomestead]

Pop smoke blow up......you tease. Not even a puuf of magik smoke. Totally disappointed. Do better next time. You only get one thumbs up today 👍 😎✌ Alfalfas Restaurant in Eastern PA. Always had one pinball and one video game

[@AndrewAHayes]

A Minge is female sexual anatomy!