Whoever designed this was like "Okay so... What about the shotgun from Halo but backwards? But what about grips?" And someone popped up and went "I got it!", ran out of the room and duct taped two M&P9 frames to a prototype and ran back in, blowing everyone's minds. And honestly I love it lol
@jimmyjarvis79332 жыл бұрын
Just picked one up. Love it. Also I find it very easy to load. Like all of my Smith & Wesson M&P firearms, I find it fantastic.
@summers99112 жыл бұрын
Can it use mini shot shells? Like the ksg can?
@jimmyjarvis79332 жыл бұрын
Yes can use mini shells
@STATION26ADDISON2 жыл бұрын
i just bought mine today ...mine is the new design after the recall ...what is the red dot they have mounted on there in the beginning !!!!!!!
@ACOGLMT5562 жыл бұрын
@@STATION26ADDISON amg uh-1 by vortex
@STATION26ADDISON2 жыл бұрын
@@ACOGLMT556 Thanks for the reply but I got that 1 figured out
@purplerocket43002 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Hopefully down the road they'll make a semi-auto version.
@jasonk85412 жыл бұрын
Looks great, gonna give it a year or two so they can work out any bugs. Lot of moving parts.
@ForFucksSake575912 жыл бұрын
You got that right. Definitely in no hurry to buy it. Definitely some nice features I wish my ksg had
@DannySauer Жыл бұрын
It's been a year. Pick one up yet? :)
@MrJoshcc6004 ай бұрын
Im a but worried about that trigger guard action release. Its on the lowest most feared part and needs to open and choose every shot. Can something add little as grass get in and jam it up
@rOLLieONeS13 ай бұрын
Picked mine up a few weeks ago! I love it. So much fun. No issues at all
@coffeeandlifting2 жыл бұрын
If this turns out to be reliable then this should solve the bullpup shotgun which we all know has been attempted by other companies with questionable results. Can't wait for some reports from people running these through training classes. S&W is the most reputable manufacturer that has done this so far and chances are good that this thing actually performs reliably.
@M2fiftycal2 жыл бұрын
It's already under recall for bad barrels, so it's definitely not there yet
@mikeyri2tx14 күн бұрын
really nice build and great looking 12G
@jonathankirkpatrick2892 жыл бұрын
Just bought my first M&P AR last week. Literally that same night i learned that this came out. Now i want a shotgun to match my AR, and then a handgun to match those. This hobby is getting expensive…
@j.kevinhunt1472 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes... BUT, It's still cheaper than the single malt scotch hobby. Produces comparable amounts of pleasurable dopamine, but without the hangover. And much less harmful to society.
@CHEECHMUN2 жыл бұрын
The best of luck with the move to TN!!!!!
@michaelhorn45402 жыл бұрын
I want one, I love Smith and Wesson firearms
@mnyee1995 Жыл бұрын
I tried this at the gun store along with KSG and IWI TS-12. Among all 3, this M&P12 has the least ergonomic especially if you have smaller body or shorter hand. TS-12 is the most ergonomic despite of the bulky size. It feels solid and well balanced. KSG is shorter but the most compact feeling when you hold it, feels like easy to carry around for survival emergency. M&P 12 has the longest throw for the pump. Your left hand feels like way too far ahead. I can imagine pumping left hand will fatigue quickly if I have to hold it in shooting ready position for a long period. It's just my personal opinion. I am not a big guy so comfort & ergonomic is important in handling any weapon if I want to increase my survival chance.
@KathyJeanActress2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. Thank you.
@mr_fnh2 жыл бұрын
I hope you guys have a really big bottle of LocTite at the factory with all those screws! On a serious note. This looks pretty interesting. I would prefer M2.0 semi-auto version chambered in 3” magnum. Find a way to reduce the amount of hardware on it too. Just my honest feedback.
@tonyp26322 жыл бұрын
Saving to get myself one for Christmas...
@ChopperLarry452 жыл бұрын
Ok looks great but what you need to make is a AR15-9 PCC to work with the M&P mags
@TheFunkmon2 жыл бұрын
Look around they are out their….
@luked86603 жыл бұрын
Awesome I want one now !!!
@hoppinggnomethe41542 жыл бұрын
awesome recreational shotgun
@wzepeda13 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Awesome! Awesome!
@sanandres3362 жыл бұрын
that looks bad ass might scoop one up and put it next to the ksg
@undeadbrosm41a392 жыл бұрын
So cool. Like to see one at the Great American Outdoor Show
@DavidLLambertmobile2 жыл бұрын
Note: 🚨 do not shoot or carry a 12ga M&P. Factory Recall. See S&W. It is not safe! Cracked barrels.
@jspiderone2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Not as simple as a standard pump shotty. Really have to take time to learn this though.
@Rod3E9002 жыл бұрын
I still need my S&W Model 29 before I get this one !!!
@albertptran2 жыл бұрын
What about a submachine gun, Smith & Wesson?
@TheFoyer132 жыл бұрын
Yeah so it's not a semi auto, yeah so it's not that original, yeah it's a bit pricey. But I don't care, I want one.
@xgin26373 жыл бұрын
Very very very Nice!
@AlphaChimpEnergy2 жыл бұрын
Ah just in time for turkey season!
@Candikanelane2 жыл бұрын
Nice 👌🏽
@scottysowell55652 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@Coolaxe3 жыл бұрын
This is cool!!
@greenmist31823 жыл бұрын
Dayum son
@Payitforward-xt1kr Жыл бұрын
just bought this. what's a good site to get shotgun shells. which one would be good for target practice ?
@ladyketurahinwaiting2 жыл бұрын
😍💞❣️ I’m in LOVE😍❣️❣️❣️❣️
@upnorthvlogs2 жыл бұрын
I’d like see 10MM M&P Pistol
@texasrob80832 жыл бұрын
Love it! Are you gonna make an od green one?
@Rod3E9002 жыл бұрын
I want one !!!
@albertptran2 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@Dan-mg5dn2 жыл бұрын
Now a hunting one
@rmblwgn2 жыл бұрын
can we get a 9mm carbine please???
@Deaddriftbum2 жыл бұрын
All the people thinking this shotgun is new or innovative must have never heard of the KelTech KSG 😂
@robertnelson962 жыл бұрын
I only came to the comments to see how many people would be "sure looks an awful lot like a KSG." Apparently you and I are the only ones that have seen them.
@Dan-mg5dn2 жыл бұрын
26in barrel
@stevencampbell1603 Жыл бұрын
I think I like the simplicity of the KSG12 better...
@podsmpsg12 жыл бұрын
I want one.
@OcSpeed2 жыл бұрын
You remade the kel-tec ksg, only 12 years late to the game.
@henrykim6086 Жыл бұрын
Hi sir do you know what is screw torque for the front right under picatinny rail body you can see two button hex screw torque? Mine was finger loose and there was no even bluelock tight on it on screws. How's yours sir? Thank you
@shooter5052 жыл бұрын
Why not make it a semi-auto? It could even automatically switch ammo tubes when one is empty.
@jasonmcpherson3992 жыл бұрын
Pump is more reliable, there are semi-auto bullpup shotguns available, but they cost substantial more, and most need a heavy load to cycle properly. These should be able to eat any ammo.
@dezototh82692 жыл бұрын
@@jasonmcpherson399 Its an engineering question. even a 100 % reliable semi auto is a stone age primitive mechanism compared to an automatic transmission , not to mention a jet engine with 20K parts. If engineers of a gun manufacturer can not design and manufacture an absolutely reliable semi auto , they should not be in this business.
@nickolaseagle35202 жыл бұрын
@@jasonmcpherson399 do it like the benelli m3 and have the option of both (semi or pump)
@citoloft19699 ай бұрын
I just wanna know one thing how do you take the key out of the pistol grip so that I can use it to clean the shotgun there’s no way I can get that key out I see you doing it so easy and I cannot get it out at all this play on it but it just doesn’t come out. Can you help me
@JLawL2 жыл бұрын
I bought this, because I love S&W, but this will never be a shotgun I use for anything other than handing to a friend on range day. I own a DP-12 Pro, which only weighs 3oz more than the M&P 12, and after 17 THOUSAND rounds, I still have not had to take it apart to clean anything more than the barrels. Not only can it hold 15% more ammo (at least when comparing mini shells), but it reloads nearly 3 times faster. Don't forget the spring assisted recoil reduction, which brings Aguila Mini Slugs down to a level you could fire from your forehead if you chose to, let alone your shoulder. The M&P kicks at least as bad as the Kel Tec, which should be a factor to anyone planning on having to shoot this gun any other time than emergencies. The reload mech is a big deal to me here. I can fire 30 mini's out of my M4 faster than I can out of this shotgun, even though it holds nearly 300% more ammo. Were you ever in a situation where you had to reload and your life depended on it, this would not be the gun you'd want to be holding. The Kel Tec again, is in that same spot. At least with something like a UTAS you've got the option of chucking a shell right into the barrel. For the money, it's a decent competitor to Kel Tec, but as a tactical "bullpump" marketed for home defense, I'd choose almost anything over the M&P 12. If it were me, and I had $1200 and not a penny more to spend on home defense, I'd go buy a UTAS 15. Personally, I don't think anything is going to ever top what Standard Manufacturing did with the DP-12 Pro model. It's just got everything you'd want in a pump shotgun now that they shaved the weight off in all the right places.
@ACOGLMT5562 жыл бұрын
cool story, wanna sell yourself more on your purchase? lol
@anxiousbeachbums9 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKO0mpKKareHd80 Ouch......!!!!! I'm headed back to considering the Tavor TS-12, S&W M&P 12 and. Stand. Manu. DP-12.
@mierdadeburo3032 жыл бұрын
Not that I would want to but. Can you shoot slugs with it?
@jeffreyquintanilla8063 Жыл бұрын
What kind of scope is that? Any way you can put a link?
@jameythompson21662 жыл бұрын
So S&W chose this over a Pistol caliber Carbine? Why?
@WhuDhat2 жыл бұрын
Id like to see a pcc as well, in .500
@jameythompson21662 жыл бұрын
@@WhuDhat Big Horn Armory makes two, one is a lever action the other is an AR platform.
@WhuDhat2 жыл бұрын
@@jameythompson2166 oh hell yeah
@michaelchristensen68842 жыл бұрын
How about a rifled barrel option for better household defense?
@janicefagelstein60892 жыл бұрын
You can by a rifled choke and install it
@michaelchristensen54212 жыл бұрын
@@janicefagelstein6089 I wanted the shot to spin faster to open up more for household defense. Instead of one hole, you get multiple holes.
@larrysandiego882 жыл бұрын
How fast can you reload it?
@signsofthetimes8862 жыл бұрын
Thats the real question
@andrewross2336 Жыл бұрын
What sight does he have on it in the video anyone recognize it?
@FFMajorEMT172 жыл бұрын
Can you take that stupid vertical grip off?
@TheFunkmon2 жыл бұрын
As long as it’s not made in Croatia!!
@geedubb20052 жыл бұрын
I think I’ll just keep my mossberg shockwave. I’m an old fart and my shoulder is wore out. I don’t see a huge market for it but who knows. It sure ain’t a bird hunting gun. God Bless the USA and protect our 2nd A 🇺🇸 86-46
@Anthony-vq1wn2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I live in communist Massachusetts where this fantastic shotgun is prohibited.
@douglilesbusdev3 жыл бұрын
What optic?
@mr_fnh2 жыл бұрын
Vortex
@jasonk85412 жыл бұрын
What ever one you choose?
@commiecat42492 жыл бұрын
Bro that's a bullpup shotgun mk II
@awelder40402 жыл бұрын
Well for $1,000.00 shot gun this gun has no chance of being more effective then a semi auto mag fed shotgun, so at that $1,000.00 price it is just not worth the money when for less then $800 you can get a magazine fed semi auto that would be way way more effective... this gun should have came out 6 years ago to pay more then $650 for any pump action shotgun you are paying way to much for what you are buying... A Semi auto shotgun is way more effective and more efficient then any pump action...
@jasonmcpherson3992 жыл бұрын
I think the reliability is going to be much higher. Should eat up any ammo you can put in it too.
@awelder40402 жыл бұрын
@@jasonmcpherson399 well as for shotgun ammo you are NOT going to be self defending anything with light load bird shot... if you ever shot a mag fed semi auto shotgun you would see just how superior the accuracy and speed of the rounds you can put on a target and the ease of reloading... there is not a pump action on the planet that could be better at any price...
@rickyjagodowski69 Жыл бұрын
@@awelder4040 ... if only I could buy a mag-fed shotgun here in Taxachusetts. I've got to move out, don't I?
@grabir012 жыл бұрын
VR60 looks better.
@michaelirizarry50372 жыл бұрын
i see there are 13 democrats that dislike this video.
@theronturner402 жыл бұрын
Too much for a pump
@MrChet4073 жыл бұрын
Man I expected something innovative. Where's that DP12?
@DraconisMarchVII3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I thought this looked suspiciously similar.
@uglydog3112 жыл бұрын
When are the people responsible for this monstrosity being fired ?
@antsepe2 жыл бұрын
Seems lame, not going to lie. I put my 870 on consignment the other day, grabbing the beretta 1301 comp as soon as my 870 sells. Seems like the best all around 12g on the market. This seems like your trying to sell a shotgun to some dumb 20 year old call of duty basement dweller.
@billybatesjr18372 жыл бұрын
Let’s say $650 tops 800 bucks anything about that not worth it
@earl240sx2 жыл бұрын
MSRP is $1,165 - even if they discount it to $1,000 - $1,100 that's too much IMO. I'll keep my trusty 870
@billybatesjr18372 жыл бұрын
@@earl240sx my 9 shot Mosburg 500 yeah I will keep that !! $ 350.00 !!
@dezototh82692 жыл бұрын
Pump action seems to me like a manual transmission , old , outdated regardless of date of manufacture.
@mikie14662 жыл бұрын
Lol clearly you don't know anything about guns or cars at that. Prob don't even know what a cvt is
@fogcitywriter12192 жыл бұрын
@@mikie1466 LOL Clearly you are struck in the 50's- this dinosaur is a joke. Wouldn't trade my Benelli for 10 of these POS's -
@CrossOfBayonne2 жыл бұрын
Nice try at a KSG-12
@baja5racer12 жыл бұрын
$1,200 for a pump shotgun.....no thanks
@xnorcal831x2 жыл бұрын
Dont like it. Looks like a mix of a shotgun/pistol/rifle. The action is just weird. Why have parts move down while you load a new round. I was expecting a semi auto that looked like a shotgun. But this is why I dont own a company.
@Misr20302 жыл бұрын
مش عملي يا جدعان ليه كل التعقيد ده في خرطوش ..... لو اوتوماتيك يبقى افضل
@TheFoyer132 жыл бұрын
Google translation: "It's not practical, guys. Why is this complexity in cartridges..... If it is automatic it will be better"
@Velshard Жыл бұрын
IT's a blatant rip-off of Kel-Tec's KSG, but it looks as though Short & Wimpy has Actually made some pretty thoughtful improvements... With an accordingly higher price tag...
@goetwi3 жыл бұрын
First
@flyingcatfish2 жыл бұрын
Highly unoriginal, expensive knockoff of the KSG-12 trying to ride on the ksg-12's popularity. I'd never thought Smith & Wesson would try to out-Chinese the Chinese with knockoffs and copies. What's next? Are they going to start flying the Chinese flag? Thumbs down!
@AJ02232 жыл бұрын
This is gay. Lol. They should be making "Others" and state compliant rifles, taking an unapoligetic pro 2A stance in doing so, given that they began and still manufacture their product in an anti 2A heavily restricted state