M3 Max blew my mind.

[@benjst3r14]

me watching this video on my 2015 macbook pro 👁👄👁

[@adityadarekar5497]

Me too!

[@ajaysrtech]

Heck yeah!

[@ezrareimer]

Me too lol

[@miguelmc2289]

16’ here. Still going. Looking at those M2 Air though…

[@StreetsOfVancouverChannel]

As my late 2013 MacBook Pro looks at your comments and silently weeps. ;) (though my M1 Mac Mini lets out a giggle)

[@JDAndNightrain]

Can we get a comparison between the M1 generation and M3? It'd be interesting to see how far Apple has come.

[@robertleidner9703]

That’s what she said.

[@ArthropodSpidey]

Did you not watch the keynote? 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

[@jowillll]

@@ArthropodSpideyim pretty sure they meant a more comprehensive comparison…

[@aytangonulsen2969]

u don't need it :) M1 Ultra Base model / 48 GPU Classroom 53 seconds / 20 CPU 3:31:00 Blender 4.0.0 Beta

[@sickhcivc]

If you literally search KZbin everyone has done a comparison

[@ajaysrtech]

M10 Ultra gonna blow your mind even more.

[@lukemiani]

facts

[@cloudy4872]

For the low price of 9,999.99!

[@Calikid24]

Naw… The M10 Super Ultra Pro Max will be better

[@Lotzuho]

@@Calikid24😂

[@clammy77485]

@@lukemiani I'm trying to start music please give me the MacBook i beg you pls

[@walpoleandworcester]

Gorgeous looking Macs. I still can't believe this was the same company that used Intel chips for so long. They really went back to their roots in this direction they took the company in.

[@TheDanEdwards]

" I still can't believe this was the same company that used Intel chips for so long. " - the PowerPC line of processors was not going to be competitive, hence Apple switched. Should Apple have switched to ARM earlier? Apple had to grow as a corporation in order to invest enough to go their own way. Even PowerPC had IBM and other corporations involved so in that case Apple could just ride along.

[@prodromosregalides3402]

Apple did not entirely went on their own. Yes they switched from Intel , but not because they could not design custom , Intel based cpus and gpus. Even if law allowed them to tweak Intel designs they would still choose to go to mommy ARM, Why? Not only because they had legally the right to change ARM designs to their own liking , but mainly because they could use TSMC's superior lithography. Which makes it much fairer to say Apple switched from Intel to TSMC. It was not their corporate decision, it was not some magical engineer's mind , it was not because they are sleek and badass, it was because they based their operations on the shoulders of a giant, TSMC the unsung hero and of course ASML. If they stayed with Intel, they would be forced to design chips on a process that has 45 million transistors per square millimeter. Good luck , competing with Intel's superior designs and much greater thermal envelope on this lithography. Sooo, they rightly chose TSMC instead with 136 actual million transistors per square millimeter (TSMC N5, Apple M1) , then 146 actual million transistors per square millimeter (TSMC N4P, Apple M2) and lately 183 actual mtr/mm2( TSMC N3B, Apple M3). Or do you think , that if Intel magically got their shit together and released CPUs and GPUs now , at their 7nm process(+200 mtr/mm2) , Apple and any Apple would have even a small chance to compete with Intel chips? Intel got involved too much into politics and government deals , that eventually lost its edge looking to facilitate for example simultaneously political (employment, social image, votes) and actual corporate(stock) and technological gains(pure performance). Intel may have crossed the line and really can't be competitive anymore because of the above. It could die soon if it doesn't take care to remove cancer from itself.

[@fidelisitor8953]

@@prodromosregalides3402 You're wrong on so many levels mate! Apple didn't choose to move to ARM because of TSMC's process. You keep singing about TSMC and their superior process but little do you know that intel's current 10nm process has the same transistor density as TSMC's 7nm (100.8 million/mm2 for intel 10nm vs 96.5 million/mm2 for TSMC N7) and so is an equivalent of TSMC's 7nm process. It's actually even slightly denser so intel is closer than you think in terms of process. Right from the early days, intel's x86 architecture had always been a power hog and that's the reason why the guys at IBM designed and created the RISC ISA (which ARM and Apple silicon are based on) for the sole purpose of having a processor that performed tasks in a simplified and more efficient way than intel's x86 power hogs. Besides, if you really think it's about intel vs TSMC, what would you say about AMD? They're using intel's x86 architecture but aren't using their fabs. They're instead using the same TSMC you sing praises to, the same TSMC that Apple uses but yet are beat by Apple in both performance and efficiency. Apple's M3 max performs the same as AMD's latest ryzen 9 7945HX laptop CPU while using less than half the power (50W vs 120W) and it's on a process that's only ~10% more efficient than the TSMC 5nm AMD's using so yeah... Apple silicon's performance and efficiency has little to do with process node and more to do with ARM's super efficient architecture built upon the RISC ISA.

[@andresbarriga5305]

As a Graphic designer and comunicatorI'd like to suggest to always place a graphic tag on top to know whici computer is which, otherwise the video turns a tad confussing because you are trying to guess about what computer you are talking about. Just a suggestion. Love the comparison content. Thanks, Luke.

[@TheChris91173]

M1 Max will always be awesome to me. The fans never kick on lol. These chips are getting more and more powerful and it’s gonna be really hard for Apple to stop heat

[@ToTheFuz]

Don’t worry. They’ll push an OTA update to slow down older M1 based MacBooks once they see people are still holding onto them and blame it on battery longevity lol

[@ethanjrdz]

@@ToTheFuz That’s why I’m still on iOS 16.6 on my iOS devices and on macOS Ventura on my M2 max MBP, really no need for upgrading the software at all

[@dbtest117]

I really dislike my 16” M2 Pro over my 16” Intel on one thing. The Intel version wasn’t cold to touch.

[@Stix_Zidinia]

salty pc fanboy?@@ToTheFuz

[@Calikid24]

@@ToTheFuzI swear they already did that my M1 Pro is all a sudden facing memory pressure and is definitely slower on Sonoma right after m3 dropped no lie

[@zchovan]

Just curious if you were using the 14-core CPU/30-core GPU or the 16-core CPU/40-core GPU for this 14-inch M3 Max MBP????

[@evcisnso]

The battery life difference on your video playback test seems to have been quite significant - around 20-25%. The M3 Pro would have played for 11.3 hours until its battery ran out (100/87 * 9h50m), compared to just 9 hours on the M3 Max. Those extra CPU and GPU cores consume power even when idle, just like on the previous generation Max laptops.

[@andyH_England]

If you are just doing video playback then I would put on low-power mode which should increase battery life.

[@Vilverin]

Similarly, the difference between 69% on the M3 Pro and 57% on the Max in the high performance test isn't really 12%, it's 12 percentage points, but a 39% increased power consumption ((1-0.57)/(1-0.69)-1=0.39) on the M3 Max. That's a lot more. Although to be fair, you're also getting stuff done faster, so in a way the difference in idle/video playback is more relevant.

[@evcisnso]

@@Vilverin Yes exactly, and the total amount of work done by the Max is higher in that scenario since it was a timed test. Luke didn’t measure the Wh per unit of work, which would be a better indicator of efficiency. Inevitably, a chip with more cores will use more battery when working flat out, and it’ll also get more done.

[@evcisnso]

@@andyH_England Yes, although both machines would show better battery life when doing that, so one would still be better.

[@AndyBooher]

Makes this a very tough choice. I’m not a creative professional so I don’t need a Max, but I’m a network engineer that likes to geek out on hardware specs, but battery life is important sometimes (off site meetings, etc.) my indecision has left me sticking with the M1 Pro for now at least.

[@MaxTechOfficial]

Good hustle!

[@HarryBolz-st5ki]

Hope to see videos on M3 max temps.😊

[@rickbeerendonk8701]

Tests are great, but the real battery performance on the Pro vs Max is 39% better (GFX Bench) and 27% better or 2.5 hours (Video). The results were communicated a little sloppy unfortunately.

[@Errcyco]

Ayyy I know you! Convinced me to buy an M1 iPad Pro actually lol.

[@Epicgamer_Mac]

Wow Luke, impressive results! And now I know why you didn’t upload yesterday… that battery test. Kudos to your dedication to wait that long to conduct it!

[@Myektaie]

I don’t think that ive ever seen a video that does the comparison better than this one! This is seriously a poece of art when it comes to comparing ❤❤❤ nice job

[@swaspc7618]

Great review, Luke! Did you use the M3 Max base model with the 14-core CPU and 30-core GPU, or did you opt for the 16-core CPU and 40-core GPU? Thanks.

[@bribeiro]

Also curious. Makes it hard to make a decision off of this video if that information is not disclosed

[@plasmacel]

i got the impression that the guy has no idea (or care) what does he compare with what. such kind of blind tests are practically pointless.

[@Photo0021]

From my M1 Air the M3 Pro MacBook Pro is blowing my mind, couldn't fathom how much faster the Max is this year.

[@JamesEustice111]

This is what I was looking for because I want to upgrade to the M3 pro 14 and I wanted to know what people thought. Thank You!

[@graxxor]

Why don't you pay 7000 dollars and find out?

[@thomgizziz]

There isn't a dramatic improvement... if they didn't improve that would be laughable because that never happens. All you get here is if you get more GPU cores then you see a bigger jump... if you look over all with an apples to apples comparison at just the number of cores you are seeing a 10% increase from M2... which is pretty meh and average. Why is it that apple users always buy into bullsh*t so easily and completely?

[@mdr_design]

Thanks for the good Blender test, it seems 99%of youtubers just stop at the normal test, the first you did

[@chrisbogart687]

Thanks for the Blender testing. I use a lot of Blender into Resolve. You made up my mind to upgrade from my M1 Studio to the M3 Studio - regardless of price, but with trade in of the M1 Studio it becomes a no brainer for me. All that power and I can look at some of the extras options on the M3 Max to up the performance than just basic. Thanks for this analysis you just gave. 👍👍👍

[@iphoneographypdx2851]

How do you like Blender?

[@chrisbogart687]

@@iphoneographypdx2851 Really nice with Resolve and latest updates.

[@JohnPamplin]

I actually cancelled my order of a 16" M3 Pro for the binned 14-core CPU / 30-core GPU 16" model yesterday. I figure the 16" with 2 fans won't be a fan noise problem, and you've validated my purchase of the Max over the Pro for long-term use. My last purchase was a Late 2013 Retina. I use these things for a decade.

[@melindagallegan5093]

You went for the Max over the Pro? The Max is over four thousand but we have got to go all out if we want our machine to last a decade, don’t we?

[@JohnPamplin]

@@melindagallegan5093 The last Macbook I bought was a Late 2013 Build-To-Order i7/16GB Retina 15" and it's still usable today, so yeah.

[@thomgizziz]

Yep that is why you come here... it isn't for actual objective testing of a product it is for validation... you clearly understand the problem with this but you use nonsense like this to try and trick yourself into believing that you are actually making a better decision... excuses to spend more money on something that you probably don't even remotely need, if a 2013 lasted you 10 years then you aren't using it for any heavy lifting and a base macbook air would have been just fine for you.

[@JohnPamplin]

@@thomgizziz OK, appreciate your feedback. But I do plan to learn video editing (Devinci Resolve), and I hear the Macbook Air throttles substantially during longer loads. As you know, the base model (8GB of RAM) isn't enough today and definitely won't be enough in the future. Thanks for your positive message!

[@GraphicDesignerStephen]

Another great video, Luke! I’d love to see you do some kind of breakdown at the end of the video where you simplify the results i.e. this one is fastest at rendering, this one is fastest at export, etc. A first, second, third place scoring system would be really helpful.

[@Georgiaboy_]

This might be my favorite video I’ve seen on these new Macs so far What i cared about most is m3 max performance on the 14 inch and also how it compares to the 14 inch m3 pro This video gave me some great insight on all that and is the only one so far to do so. That battery life section really makes it seem like the m3 Max battery on 14 inch isn’t anything to worry about. It has low power mode too right ? Wonder what that would’ve done.

[@tipoomaster]

You should test out Apple's claim about 8GB performing like a Windows 16GB machine, not on Intel Macs with chips designed 10 years ago, but modern competitors from AMD and Intel

[@robertleidner9703]

They never said that.

[@andyH_England]

There is a nuance to what Apple said about macOS RAM which you clearly missed.

[@tipoomaster]

​@@andyH_England "Actually, 8GB on an M3 MacBook Pro is probably analogous to 16GB on other systems." is literally what they said. The rest of the comments about compression and swap apply everywhere, and moreover it just doesn't pan out in heavy use.

[@tipoomaster]

@@robertleidner9703 "Actually, 8GB on an M3 MacBook Pro is probably analogous to 16GB on other systems." is literally what they said. The rest of the comments about compression and swap apply everywhere, and moreover it just doesn't pan out in heavy use.

[@andyH_England]

@@tipoomaster I use 8GB in two M-chip Macs and using activity monitor can be accessing 12-13GB of RAM and still be in the yellow. So for the target customer that just needs 8GB it does mean that it is as like having close to 16GB. I have never had a slow down. For those doing RAM-intensive pro apps then of course, please use common sense and get an appropriate specced device. A pro user needing 16GB or more RAM would unlikely buy the base MB Pro 14 M3 as it is the i5 of Apple’s lineup. They would buy the M3 Pro chip or the M3 Max. The base MB Pro 14 is a replacement for the MB Pro 13 M2 and is not a pro device as it has the weakest ultrabook chip. I really cannot understand why so many people are confused by this. FYI the MB Pro 13 has always started with 8GB!

[@friscomusic272]

very well made... excellent comparisons.. detailed...and comprehensive. thanks Luke

[@mashudal-rashid856]

Great video, just the comparison I was after - but misleading battery conclusion: Battery test 1: 43% batter used vs 31% means… 38% more battery used by M3 Max in that test. Battery test 2: 13% at 590 mins is 6.7mins per % 0% at 540 mins is 5.4mins per % means… 24% longer run times on M3 Pro, so over 2 more hours on 4K video playback.

[@LivingLife95]

3:20 I’m a fan of your channel, have been for a while. One suggestion - please make these graphs bigger for mobile. Keep up the awesome work!

[@DigiDriftZone]

Can you please add benchmarks comparing the Base M3 Max to the maxed out one? - that's the decision I'm trying to make right now.

[@TheChris91173]

M6 max gonna blow your mind even more.

[@pixselious]

Wait until he learns about the M7 Ultra Duo

[@ethanjrdz]

@@pixseliousofc. -1.5nm architecture, and AI powered cores would be mind blowing 😱

[@hardstylemofo13]

It will be called the M6 max +

[@ethanjrdz]

Great comparison! Got my 14” M2 Max refurbished from apple in May so technically saved 500 dollars over the original price. It seems a big performance difference but at least not that much in my use case (video editing). Gaming is not here yet and I don’t do any 3D rendering at all. A bummer that is way more expensive than ever before.

[@kevinranders]

I went with the Macbook Pro M3Pro 18gb yesterday and this video confirms I made the right call. Thanks!

[@iphoneographypdx2851]

Luke, thank you for always proving your feedback on these new devices! I upgraded from my 2019 Intel 15 inch MacBook Pro to the M3 Pro 16 inch MacBook Pro and this beast flies!

[@businessmanph]

Look like superman on superman and lois. Cool video.

[@depthbyvfx9604]

Your blender test convinced me this would be a good upgrade from my 2015 MacBook pro. Rendering just five seconds off from a 3090 is good enough for me. Blender would actually be usable for me

[@Createdbydub]

Same here I’m still on 2015 mbp. Been waiting on tsmc to drop 3mn for a while. Thats why I waited. The ray tracing comparison to optix seal the deal for me.

[@sammyjammy6647]

Which configuration M3 Max are you using for this test? Is it the base M3 Max?

[@80-80.]

like everyone else, I was planning to go for the M3 Pro this year, but since Apple chose to cripple that particular M3 chip, I choose to skip the whole upgrade and wait for the M4. Max is above my budget.

[@TheDanEdwards]

"Apple chose to cripple this particular M3 chip," - there is no "crippling" involved. Your way of thinking is twisted. And frankly your statement: "I choose to skip the whole upgrade and wait for the M4", tells us that you are caught up in some sort of status seeking, not using the proposed computer for real work.

[@8xus_1]

@@TheDanEdwardsand ‘Like everyone else’? The thing’s only been out for 10 days

[@ZhuJo99]

@@TheDanEdwards I would not say "crippled" too. About same performance but with better thermals and battery life. Fine with me. Ideal for 14"

[@thomgizziz]

@@8xus_1 These aren't bright people. They are watching what pretty much amounts to an apple propaganda channel and buy computers that they don't need because they think everybody is doing it and they have to do what everybody else is doing or they aren't cool.

[@SoftwareManiacLSM]

The Studio Ultra is going to be shocking. Prediction: 256GB RAM, 16TB SSD. Cores will double the Max. Great video, Luke! I bought a new M3 16" Max thanks to your feedback.

[@JakeTreadway]

That’s a crazy prediction

[@turismoride6617]

and price?

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

that prediction totally makes sense, insane!

[@8xus_1]

I would say 16TB SSD, and probably just 192GB RAM like this year

[@thomgizziz]

@@turismoride6617 A 64gb pro with 1tb of ram is $7000... a totally maxed out one like that is likely to be pushing $20,000... but people like this are delusional.

[@noblepadawan]

I feel like you need to slow down on these video edits and maybe take a look at it one last time. At 3:10, I had to squint and zoom in hard just to see that graph. A couple days ago when you looked at the internals of the M3 MacBook Pro, the scene zoomed in to showcase the 2 NAND chips, but in actuality just zoomed into the center of the screen where there were no NAND chips

[@oddzc]

I appreciate you actually thinking about what are good quality benchmarks to run. I find the reliance on benchmarks a bit concerning generally because it seems like an easy thing to optimise for but not match real world performance.

[@alexdattel2757]

I agree having all of these reviews just be a checklist of benchmarks instead of subjective opinions feels pretty exchangeable to me. That makes creators doing this just not unique.

[@radradradradradradrad]

Finally a blender Metalrt comparison. Thanks!

[@MarleyTravels]

Nobody ever mentions if they verified the state of the older laptops battery. Laptop batteries degrade quickly, so it's not an apples to apples (pardon the unintended pun) comparison if both batteries aren't at 100% of their original capacity.

[@aaronstine7972]

Luke, Final Cut render is likely single threaded which would run on a single core. Single core performance is similar across the chips leading to your test result.

[@robertleidner9703]

Not true. I’m a Final Cut coder and know this isn’t true

[@CloroxBleachOfficial]

@@robertleidner9703do you know the reason the tests came out to be so similar?

[@frostgodx]

Single threaded? It’s encoding aka using the hardware encoding like it’s designed. Unless you add more as in the max or less there is no real speed change. Nothing to do with threading of task

[@johnnyasbury6776]

@ 8:26 Final Cut Pro 10.7 will improve this. I was at the  FCP Summit when they demoed this and it’s faster. I hope he reruns his FCP tests after 10.7 is released. My favorite demo at the hands on area was seeing FCP & Logic working in sync using Audio Design Desks DAW Bridge all on a M3 Max (not sure of memory config) connected to two  Studio Displays.

[@thomgizziz]

@@frostgodx Yep, M3 is a normal 10% performance bump just like most chips... the only real differences you are seeing are if they crammed more cores in. Most of the people in here aren't smart enough to understand that apple sells you a story and this channel isn't good about telling you the truth either, he tries to place apple in the best possible light. This chip isn't amazing it is a normal chip refresh cycle the problem is you had M1 then M2 was a tick (small incremental speed gains) and M3 is also a tick... that isn't good if M4 isn't a tock (a big jump in processing power per a core) and ends up being a tick again then there is serious issues with apples arm platform in the future.

[@epi2045]

My ‘22 M1 16” is still blazing 4K video editing. It’s amazing and have no plans to upgrade for 3-4 yrs. My fiancé got my late ‘16 13.3” MBP to replace her ‘21 Dell i7 laptop. She loves how stable and snappy it is for being a 7yr old laptop.

[@golafs]

watching on 2012 macbook pro (still working "kindof" fine!). But think im gonna finally update. that black color is too tempting

[@ignskeletons]

M1 Pro is still stupidly fast for everything I use, prob won't upgrade for another 4 or 5 years. Just don't feel a need to, even if the chip was 1000x faster the M1 already does all I need. What's the incentive other than benchmarks I'll never match in my real world use cases?

[@philbert9117]

Great comparison video Luke. Exactly what I was hoping to see. Thanks!

[@bmakszim]

Great comparison? We did not even learn the exact core numbers of the chips in the comparisons... all charts are total useless.

[@DennisSchmitz]

I'm sure the 16" M3 Max will be even faster given the bigger chassis and better cooling. Happened with previous generations as well.

[@vlcheish]

I'm most curious for Mac Studio next year

[@DennisSchmitz]

@@vlcheish same

[@matt_kelly]

I just commented the same thing. It would be pretty disappointing to pay for all that performance in a laptop and realize you are throwing a bunch of performance on the floor. I'm guessing they will boost the frequencies a bit which would muddy the issue and give them an excuse.

[@8xus_1]

Not an apple thing to do

[@thorium9190]

3D Mark solar Bay is attracting Benchmark!!!!

[@JamesPConklin]

Looking forward to 14 vs 16 M3 Max comparison next week! Very interested to learn if 14/16 M3 Pro w/ 18Gb RAM performance suffers when connected to 2x 4K external monitors with multiple apps and displays open (if so, this will push me to buy Max w/ 32 Gb instead).

[@oterotube13]

Thank you Luke for the tests!

[@314159265mangler]

Awesome video Luke, as usual. Very informative.

[@jasonreviews]

my boy has so many mac's he can have mac museum at this rate.

[@guyjordan8201]

What was the memory and storage configurations for each of those machines?

[@cjeelde]

We know that M3 Max got at least 36 or 48 GB RAM depending on binned or not.

[@mazharelkharbotly753]

Just wondering if this chip is the 30 core gpu model or the 40 core gpu model? Great video by the way

[@jannieschluter9670]

We cannot talk about the performance of these M3 Macs without talking about their reparability. These new Macs are built like one-time use space rockets and not like cars and bikes one owns and one can maintain. Apple talks about "carbon neutrality" by not providing people with the charging bricks they need to operate the devices, yet they have millions of Apple products go to waste because people dump their irreparable and extremely expensive Macs just because a soldered SSD drive won't turn on with its repair being so extensive, difficult and expensive, it not being worth the effort, making it YOUR problem. We must talk about the IMMORAL practices of Apple, INTENTIONALLY engineering their products in a way that one has to BUY their product without ever truly owning them. IF Apple wants its customer to LEASE their products, which would mean that one would not repair them, then they should not make customers BUY the product but pay a leasing fee and return the PC after the leasing time 2 years is over.

[@ppmnox]

only critique: please don't overlay low level music over fan noise demonstrations. otherwise, fantastic!

[@gznewman]

Man. I am feeling pretty great about my M2 Pro Mini purchase.

[@nickb5091]

It would certainly help to know the configurations of the machines that you tested…

[@briansteph]

Understandable that the fan would be the loudest in the 14" M3 Max. Did you find that it became physically hot to the touch? Was it disruptively loud, or just slightly annoying? Appreciate being able to hear them one after another for sure, but still slightly hard to tell how loud it is compared to the environment. Would love to hear your thoughts...thanks!

[@Frozoken]

It's got 4 extra performance cores and the tdp as a result in nearly 50% higher (56w vs 40w). Very unsurprising that it'll be louder and due to.these reasons, across the board too, no chance its just the size.

[@bugged1212]

Why is everyone comparing it with M2, the folks who might even be tempted are the ones with an M1 or an older machine.

[@cyruslwalker]

i appreciate this video luke! very informative & in-depth! 🙌😌

[@Tomcharlesworth1997]

I'd be interested to see a comparion of the M3s vs the last Intel generation (2019). As this is something Apple mentioned a few times during their event.

[@thomgizziz]

Why are you so interested in a comparison to a notebook that came out almost 5 years ago? So you can try to convince yourself that you didn't pay a lot of money for something you really don't need?

[@seraph0824]

Could you please do a comparison between the 14-core vs. 16-core versions M3 Max?

[@hmcsee]

Am i missing where it says wgich models are being compared? I assume it is the highest M3 Pro model conpared to the lowest M3 Max model but is this true? Is it the highest capability model of each?

[@christophermungiria2876]

The size difference between the 14 inch and 16 inch is huge, I’ve never realized this before

[@stitchyrichie]

Yep that’s why I opted for the 16 max max gpu and cpu

[@TylerMarsh87]

For the M3 Pro you are referencing in this video, is it the 11cpu/14gpu or the 12cpu/18gpu version?

[@UpUplifted]

Still running my 2013 Mac pro , pro tools 11 and out board gear stops me upgrading, cost more then just a new laptop.. But it may be time m3 would be nice..

[@fmarinosfromafar9512]

I'm really really happy with my M1 Max MBP - not sure that I want to (should) watch this...

[@VidTechwRick]

Great video Luke! Lots of work!!! MaxTech Who???😂

[@matt_kelly]

Sooo are the M3's throttling like the M1/M2 Max did? I would love to see how the M3 Max does in a Studio chassis compared to the MacBook. Likely they will boost the frequencies a bit, but that will just go to show how much thermal headroom there is in that form factor. I'm tempted by the new MacBook Pros, but only because I currently have a binned 14". The performance boost would be nice, but honestly now I'm interested by the larger screen size. I'm happy with my M2 Max Studio though, I don't see it going anywhere anytime soon.

[@NicolasdeJong]

Interesting. Quite noisy fans there on the m3 max. But is that related to GPU or CPU load? Also surprising that having extra cores uses more energy even if they are not used (during video playback). Seems Apple still has some optimizing to do. Thanks for the video!

[@sironjuh]

Sounds about the same as my M2 Max when GPU-cluster hits 100'C.

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

yes more P-cores add a lot of heat, but they are also the most valuable. i am fine with fan noise under this extreme loads which do not represent real world use cases for the vast majority of cases. whats important is silence when working and that one is pretty much sealed with apple silicon.

[@sironjuh]

@@JohnSmith-pn2vl Indeed on a daily work it is rare to hear the fans, but whenever I'm playing Civ6 it IS annoying when the fans hit the turbo mode :D

[@MusicZtorm]

"Cinebench 2024 tests GPU and CPU performance by using Maxon’s powerful Redshift render engine." -> as for me i'll be using mostly the CPU not CPU+GPU at the same time. Maybe it's your use case too.

[@NicolasdeJong]

@@MusicZtorm Yeah, just cpu for me. Not interested in graphics (sw dev & vm mainly). But the test didn't show how hot the machine got with just cpu and no gpu. I suppose there won't be much difference, it'll just take a bit longer before the fans go wild.

[@Mamo878]

But how does the M1 Pro and M1 Max compare? Would have been nice to see those in the charts as well.

[@nofood1]

bruh m1 is 4 years old

[@Mamo878]

@@nofood1 M1 Pro and M1 Max launched October 2021. Your math skills are severely lacking. Get educated.

[@nofood1]

@@Mamo878 🤣🤣

[@patrickreuvekamp]

@@nofood1 And?

[@8xus_1]

⁠@@Mamo878Jesus Christ man, you didnt have to get so toxic about what I assume is pretty close to the correct answer

[@bobzhu8528]

Very meaningful and useful review!

[@beni2143]

Kindly do this test with Low power mode on m3 max and see the performance difference and battery difference

[@trekofjoy]

Any chance you can add the specs for each machine? Are these all base models or are there upgrades?

[@nster3]

M3 Pro is really not as bad as I thought, would love to see/know the difference between the 11 core and 12 core versions, and a battery test on low-power mode or whatnot

[@ZhuJo99]

Binned vs unbinned in CPU is not big difference (depends on work flow) but GPU is quite significant it seems. Still undecided whether to go from M1 Air to 14" M2 Pro with huge discount or M3 Pro. Seems to run more silent when under load with better battery life overall. But heck, 800 euros difference is lot, that pays for new ultra wide lcd

[@nster3]

@@ZhuJo99 Yea Apple is so expensive in Europe, if the keyboard isn't an issue, it'd be cheaper to fly to Montreal or Toronto to get your laptop LOL

[@ZhuJo99]

@@nster3 you forget that prices in USA are without tax

[@nster3]

@@ZhuJo99 Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire and Oregon don't have any sales tax and many places have very low sales tax. There are also cities that have lower sales tax than the rest of the state. Even the places that have the highest salest tax are around 9%, far from the 20% VAT you can find in the EU

[@ZhuJo99]

@@nster3 sure, but you will have to bring it without the box. Much lower resale value in future. I'm Mac user since 1994 and would never buy any Macbook without original packaging. High chance that such guy never took care about the computer or it's stolen. Also,count in you can be taxed on airport easily. Even if not so, adding price to the flight ticket there and back, all the hassle, time spend. No, thanks but no. Personally, I need tax writeoffs and without proper invoice (so VAT has to be paid anyway) I would not be able to do that. So to me it's absolutely out to give a shit. It will pay for itself (whole computer + nice ultra wide LCD) in two moths, then just earn me 50x it's value during ownership, so why bother?

[@RodrigoDeVincenzoMonteiro]

This! Video! Is! Insane!! =- thanks for bring the comparison !

[@btonelli]

Hi. Just curious How you got 19 Sec on the Render for the M3 Max. In my testing Im getting 3 Min 27 sec first run without Metal RT turned on GPU only , second 3min 28 sec and this is with Metal RT Turned on.

[@Coco-xi9hq]

Are you using blender 4.0?

[@btonelli]

@@Coco-xi9hq Blender 3.6.5

[@btonelli]

@@Coco-xi9hq just tried 4.0. 3 min 25 sec

[@Coco-xi9hq]

Oh man :/ Yah curious to how he got such crazy numbers. I’m ready to replace my laptop and have been hoping to finally make the change to Apple. He didn’t mention specs. Maybe his m3 max has maxed out ram?

[@btonelli]

@@Coco-xi9hq mine is maxed out as well. Hopefully he will explain his testing process

[@Just-Alexiel]

i have a brand new refurb from apple M2 max that i returned today and i got the M3 max , both 16 inch bot maxxed out , and i did their apple TV streaming test with no other apps opened but with some 3rd party helper that was running in the background like Boom 3D, Istats, Maccy, TG pro , airbuddy and such , keyboard lights were at max, Screen brightness was at seven and volume was at half with no dongles plugged , so for the M2 max who had only 3 battery cycles, it runned ecaxtly 18 hours and 20 min. Next day i inverted and tested the M3 max with same account and also out of the box with 3 battery cycles, and i was impressed cos i got 21 hours and 30 min . really near their 22 hours . I would love Luke to compare the 30 GPU M3 Max on the 16 and the 40 Cores , cos i noticed that maybe 40 cores was a bit too much for me , but i's cool for future proofing and gaming ... so with the extended return policy i'm thinking maybe return it and order the 30 Cores GPU variant, cos i didn't found videos or articles that compares both M3 max on the 16 inch. Great Video , but i suspect that because of the new architecture for the GPU , some programs need to be updated for the M3 chipset.

[@bushgreen260]

*Maybe the M3 Max in the 16" will match the M2 ultra because of the extra thermal headroom.*

[@KC-bi9jw]

This is a KZbinr, you get the tests you get

[@jaimeduncan6167]

Thanks for an actual review.

[@Dang3rRoom]

My 2019 i9 still blazing fast…literally 🔥

[@8xus_1]

Should I call the fire service?

[@Dang3rRoom]

@@8xus_1 nah i live in canada…its my heater

[@charliesdrones6413]

Another Great Video Luke can't wait when you compare it with the 16inch Max I was wondering how close the 14 inch High End M3 Pro compare to the Basic 14 inch M3 Max because I can get a 2TB SSD with the High End Pro for the same price and if you play games on the 14 do you hear the fans constantly? That would make me considering getting the 16 inch

[@FluffyPuppyKasey]

The fact that M3 Max WITHOUT RT nearly matches my RTX 3070 Ti laptop GPU WITH RT (I got about 22 seconds) is impressive in it's own right, considering the latter uses 140W while doing so. However the PC still has the price advantage considering you can pick up one of these machines for about $1500 these days. Not to mention battery life, my machine falls off a cliff there. Roughly an hour and a half of video playback

[@MrPoliarinis]

Not even close in real life to rtx. Dont be delusional here.

[@msl9528]

After watching a number of youtube videos, its obvious that Apple put all the horsepower into M3 Max, pulling down M3 Pro, and make M3 Max the star of this launch to sell more of Max MBP. Look at the number of maxed out MBP sent out for reviews. 😂

[@Applecompuser]

One of my fav KZbinrs. I plan to keep my present MBP and any next purchase will be a desk top (maybe a Studio.) One gets more bang for the buck. PS Its great to see Apple finally focusing on laptops. Its an important market and likely more profitable than desktops.

[@thomgizziz]

Yeah that makes sense, you buy products from a company that intentionally tried to turn you into a religious worshiper and now you watch a youtuber that will also bend the truth so you will think your apple purchase is better than it is and you will keep paying your tithing to the cult of apple.

[@BenCossette]

A little off topic, but could you possibly review the iPhone 15 Pro vs an older MacBook to see what it compares to computing power. I have an entry level M1 MacStudio and was curious how it compared to 15 Pro, wondering if editing on my phone could ever be faster.

[@randyragsdale23]

Good comparison video Luke.

[@videofrat3115]

I'd love to see a battery comparison using the low power mode, as for some of us battery longevity is critical especially when working outside or traveling. Battery is arguably the main thing keeping me from upgrading to m3 max right now.

[@kinoromantic]

I'm editing 4K BRAW files in 4K timeline on the M2 pro Mac mini 16gb and it's absolutely crushing in Davinci 18.6 - heavy noise reduction, color grading, sound. Render speeds are sky rocket. I can't imagine the use for M3 Ultra for video editing and color grading, it's like having a 300mph car and never driving it above 45mph

[@AlexSilver-p9f]

Haha, i feel you, upgraded from base mbp13pro 2015 to 16” 32gb m1 max a year ago, the difference was staggering. M3 max should impress you even more

[@whenitrainsnow]

Can confirm fan noise in my 14" M3 Max unless i turn on low power mode but that cuts the time to render my project in half. But the upside I have a portable heater this winter. Wonder how good the 16" max would fare with fan noise.

[@questionyourbeliefs]

This is hands down the best comparison video of all the MacBooks.

[@questionyourbeliefs]

And can’t wait for the M3 Max 16in vs 14in comparison.

[@artmaltman]

Superb comparison. Thank you.

[@thebuddercweeper]

I'd love to see a battery life comparison between the 14" M3 Max and M2 Pro considering the huge difference between M2 Pro and M3 Pro, and the small difference between M3 Pro and M3 Max. Could the battery life on the 14" M3 Max be better than the M2 Pro?

[@MaxPowers1245]

Is that lion rock on the desktop? When were you in Piha?

[@ON-YT]

will be upgrading from a 2017 13" 4 ports so this will be like going from Stone Age to the Iron Age for me

[@ethanhouck8673]

thank you, answered so many of my questions

[@ForeverDownByLaw]

For me, the added raytracing performance is worth the price of admission. I've had to go to a p.c. with a 3080ti to achieve the Blender performance I needed, but with these Macs I may be able to push it aside.

[@leaphardotnet]

M3 max is half the perf of a 4080 laptop in blender GPU benchmark chart

[@8xus_1]

@@leaphardotnethalf the perf, 1/8 of the size

[@leaphardotnet]

@@8xus_1 apple silicon are huge in size but very low in power use, but count half of the performance for half of the power, well normal then

[@8xus_1]

@@leaphardotnet a full size rtx 4080 is not something you carry around on a daily basis. Doesnt take a genius to realise why

[@leaphardotnet]

@@8xus_1 doesn't take a genius to know how to read , i talk about laptop rtx 4080 in my comment, read again but slooowwwllyyy this time you'll get it

[@stevemadsen3615]

Not sure if I missed it. But in the video and comments, I didn’t see exactly which versions you were comparing. Which CPU/GPU/RAM versions were you using? … I’m trying to decide whether to get the highest end M3 Pro or the lowest end M3 Max. I don’t do anything intense, but I also want to be able to keep the machine for 8 years. I figure that the M3 Max would be supported with MacOS updates one year longer than M3 Pro. … I’m just trying to decide how much of a battery hit we get with basic tasks (web browsing, email, etc).

[@scollins4436]

Thank you

[@voxtm]

You should see a better cooling system with the 16', and lower fan noise. Maybe less throttling?

[@AppleBman]

Great video, and a decision-maker for my next Mac purchase! BTW please don't include the senseless bar graph labels ("17m 17s 750ms") as they're not necessary.

[@Techno_Rama]

Luke, you have a dB noise level measuring device on your wrist

[@bohansen2960]

Great video. Just what I was looking for. CAn you install paralles and see how many windows arm vm you can run? That would be a great test.

[@robertleidner9703]

No