M4 vs M4 Pro MacBook Pro - The Value.. HOLY SMOKES!!

[@MaxTechOfficial]

THIS is the M4 Series MacBook Pro you should buy right now ➡ geni.us/AjyWC M4 14" MacBook Pro ➡ geni.us/z6J4 14" M4 Pro/Max MacBook Pro ➡ geni.us/AjyWC 16" M4 Pro/Max MacBook Pro ➡ geni.us/g0bpcUX M4 iMac 24" ➡ geni.us/Fi24Abc M4 Mac mini ➡ geni.us/PaBL3Z

[@sadOldMan13]

Please normalize Apple Silicon M cpu's benchmark to clock speed. M4 is only marginally faster than M1.

[@jukain69]

Which is the app you use to see the CPU and GPU capacity utilization in %?

[@KennyGPhotography34]

I bought that very model last week, 14" MBP M4 Pro for $1999. It's replacing a M1 Mac Mini with 8gb ram. The difference in Lightroom Classic performance is mind blowing! Very happy with my purchase.

[@RyanMilbrod-n4w]

Damn you could of got it for $1800

[@Jeo-What]

how fast is the actual (not estimated) de-noise in LRC with large files between the two?

[@KennyGPhotography34]

@@Jeo-What I haven't used the denoise feature yet with it

[@jacobporter419]

​@@RyanMilbrod-n4w How?

[@RyanMilbrod-n4w]

@@jacobporter419 micro center has the m4 pro for $1800, I went to my local bestbuy and they price matched it

[@a-non-a-mouse]

To most people, this is like recommending that you upgrade from a car that can drive 140mph to one that can drive 220mph

[@bradlun9759]

Nah, for 3d animation work it still not so much fast. M2 Pro slower than my 3070m, render Blender scene 39 sec

[@robsmith5434]

Most people shouldn’t be buying MacBook Pros. The M1 Air is enough for most people. If you need power, get the “220mph” computer.

[@bradlun9759]

@@robsmith5434 Most people take windows lol. Mac is very situational because of its price

[@plohish1337]

well, that's a already a macbook pro model, if someone doesn't need that, they can grab macbook air instead. If you got a pro you probably have some work to do and 2k$ model will do it better.

[@videofrat3115]

@@bradlun9759 99.9% of people do not use "render blender" on a daily basis, and do not even know what that is.

[@danieleleoni9337]

Base M4 is more than enough for a lot of people.... we are talking about of seconds of differences... Get M4 PRO only if you are very sure to need it

[@Cujobob]

For the Pro line of MacBooks, it stands to reason that customers are at least occasionally pushing their computers. The difference in performance for such a small amount of money is quite significant and will likely mean that a typical user could see this laptop last a few extra years. If it were more expensive, I’d probably agree.

[@piotrd.4850]

Amen. Functionally sound, all prots and all and performance of M2 Pro.

[@bodigames]

If you are a light gamer definitely get the M4 Pro.

[@videofrat3115]

@@bodigames except there are very few games on Mac as of right now. Hope that changes soon.

[@lamentspace]

I see the mbp m4pro 24gb 1tb ram 14/20 core . For 2199 , good price ? My first MacBook purchase

[@MrClasherHD]

I bought base model 2021 M1 Pro 14 inch on launch day. Yes M4s are out but my M1 Pro still blazes through Final Cut and everything else fast!!

[@Angelarski]

Same here. No point upgrading at least a few more years

[@cgrigsby79]

Chart is wrong at 8:34, you have M4 showing higher track counts than M4 Pro

[@D.u.d.e.r]

Spotted it as well, well done😉

[@hadeseye2297]

Modern day advertising. ;) $210 Kingston 128GB of RAM. Don't get fooled by apple's rip off strategy. ;)

[@77dris]

@@hadeseye2297 It's not really the same though. Apple uses SOOC with unified memory. Yes they overprice the upgrades, but you can't compare Kingston ram to Apple SIlicon LOL

[@johngwheeler]

@@77drisApple uses normal LPDDR5X chips on the SoC package - they don’t AFAIK make their own RAM modules, and buy them from other manufacturers. The memory controllers are part of the SoC die though. The differentiator between Apple Silicon and DIMM modules is that the RAM is physically closer to the CPU/GPU cores and is shared between them. The actual memory is nothing special, but Apple charges a huge amount for it.

[@MrPerrisC]

Good point, and RAM cost them less than anyone, their markup is monstrous, but I do want to clarify beyond marketing. Apple RAM is not on system chip, (SoC), it's RAM on package, that's why Apple can offer differing amounts of RAM per user order. RAM on package/die, is still faster than most RAM, (not socket LPcamm2) . AMD still doesn't have RAM on laptop package, but OEMs solder ram anyway For laptops, Intel is now RAM on package for no good reason other than trying what Apple does to get RAM sales when selling laptop CPUs LPCAMM2 is socketed, thinner and faster than RAM on package, but only dell offers lpcamm2 as my last look, and it would only be for desktops and AMD laptops Sadly, "unified" is simply marketing, apple renames "shared" memory as "unified", they correctly rebrand tech for their own marketing and it's well done, my point is to provide knowledge and is not criticism, it's admiration for how well they manipulate those repeating what they have to sell The actual benefit from Apples' shared memory, unlike other players' igpu, Apple gives near equal access both to cpu and gpu, typically, previous CPU philosophy is to limit top amount igpu uses to a few gigs I believe AMD is following Apple's lead somewhat, not equal RAM share but allowing users to decide how much RAM iGPU can access. But "unified ram" is just shared ram, it's just a branding thing

[@filterdecay]

the logic graph is wrong. The m4 and m4pro should eb swapped. Thanks for doing these tests regardless.

[@alcarpenter979]

You're killing me, Smalls! We need a look 14" vs 16" for M4pro 14/20. Battery life and thermal throttling are the key questions. I am sure the M4max people would like to see these tests also.

[@aidenhwtv]

i agree!!!

[@yupickmyusername]

Getting M4 Max 14 inch mbp is kinda silly tbh, but i agree with the 14vs16 M4 Pro comparison

[@AdamuDNA]

You’ve warmed my heart! I say “you’re killing me Small’s” all the time and nobody knows what the f I’m referencing. 😂

[@JoTokutora]

Typo at 8:42. Mistake in labeling the M4 and M4 pro

[@IlianCosta]

Yeah, I was confused too

[@furiobisotti8150]

Yes! I hope better (higher) numbers are for the M4 pro chip. I think to buy it and this information is highly important for me (audio live and in studio)

[@ricarmig]

Prices in most Europe for the MacBook Pro 14” - base M4: over 1900€ - base M4 Pro: over 2400€ It’s VERY expensive. For that price people can buy the Air + Mac Mini M4…

[@frankwong9486]

Lamborghini Huracan Lp 610-4 Spyder 5.2 2dr Convertible Semi Auto Petrol Price tagged 129,000 used You can buy 5 hatchback instead ,having a way more capacity ,mileage ,lower fuel consumption per miles , higher horse power and torque in total But here comes the question , can they go quick like the lambo ? No Case closed

[@dk0898]

In Switzerland the 14” base M4 Pro ist 1’999 CHF and 1’849 CHF with education discount.😜 Thank god not everything is expensive here.😅

[@ricarmig]

@@frankwong9486 well, taking in account that: - I found none at that price but yes over 230.000€ (second hand) - a Tesla Model 3 Performance is as fast 0-100 km/h and costs 5x less - you go to jail if you get “that” fast on the highway to use the full power I would rather stay in silence and do 3.1 seconds from 0-100 km/h while consuming 2€/100 km…

[@videofrat3115]

@@frankwong9486 and then most people who buy the lambo will be driving at 10 km/h sitting in traffic, just to show off what they have, and not even once pushing the real limit of the car.

[@frankwong9486]

@@videofrat3115 yep correct Most of the time the car aren't utilised which is a waste Buy full build spec, 99% time idle

[@frankschuermans2467]

Will you compare the M4MAX 16C/40C in 14" VS 16" to learn about the thermal throttling with the m4? TY

[@GHz199]

What about low power mode on the M4 Pro? What is the performance difference between high and low power modes? It would be nice to see if the gap is worth the battery savings.

[@alykos94]

The thing is that the base M4 is not really targeted to professional users. Yes it still has very good hardware and you can do some really heavy tasks with it, but you have to see it like an upgraded version of the macbook air, with a better display, 120hz refresh rate, better and louder speakers, bigger battery and much higher performance overall, which will also make it more futureproof. This way, the answer is pretty easy: are you a professional who has to do very heavy tasks with their machine? Buy the M4 Pro or Max. For all the rest of people, the base M4 is more than enough and will satisfy 99% of consumers. You don't need to spend more money for a huge jump in specs if you'll never really make use of it.

[@MichaelSidneyTimpson]

Eager to see a Pro vs. Max and 14" vs. 16" of both comparison. Hope you can open it up and see if Ultra Fusion is present too.

[@AidanCran]

Base m4 is an amazing price for what you get, anyone with an older laptop, monster upgrades. Sure, the m4 pro is a great deal also, but most people don’t even need that, but fun to have. In Australia, it’s a $800 price difference.

[@youknownothing3766]

I returned an m4 pro for a base. I was sitting in a library checking things and watching youtube. I didnt need the m4 pros performance when my M1 air would have done the same job. No wonder the m4 felt lighter in store. 1 less fan, smaller heatsink. I got the base m4 coming with 24GB ram, added nano texture and saved myself $400aud to go towards applecare+. Longer battery life on basic tasks, I feel the base m4 pro is like an air 15, a tad smaller but with better screen, speakers etc. Look at your use cases carefully, its not all about performance. Saving a bit of money now can be put towards an M6 when you really need it. Not to mention TB5 and oled may be standard then.

[@AidanCran]

@ absolutely. I’m finally upgrading from my 2012 MacBook Pro retina, and I think I’m gonna go base m4 with nano and that’ll go for atleast another 5+ years for me haha

[@JnRBricks]

⁠​⁠@@AidanCranlol. I thought I was the only one that still rocked a 2012 retina. I just upgraded to the base m4 pro as well. I do not chase the latest tech, and I plan on keeping the m4 pro for the next 10 years. That was the only way I could justify paying the extra $800, as it included the bump in ram, and better write speeds.

[@AidanCran]

@ I genuinely thought about the base pro, but now these purchases are for work, so my base m4 can be handed down to wifey who has an m1 air, or daughter in 5 years. Can’t go wrong with any of the m4 options, amazing releases this year.

[@AidanCran]

And I found it strange that we always have higher cost of laptops, but not usually double, usually around the 1.5x but the upgrade from m4 to m4 pro is double that of the US prices

[@1zamboni]

Glad I went with M4 Pro version 1TB Thunderbolt 5 with dual fans very pleased with the laptop.

[@asmodeoux]

I’m curious what’s the difference in battery life in basic tasks and idle mode, I rarely need the extra performance but my love for longer battery life makes me actually consider the regular M4 🤔

[@cormonauta1993]

same. did you find your answer?

[@mamonso]

The Logic pro X test shows the Pro performing lower that the standard. Is this result correct?

[@SifuVoid]

At 8:38 is a typo on the screen (between m4 pro and m4)… m4pro does 140 tracks or 240? :)

[@balu2010abc]

I bought the M4 Max but didn't feel any difference compared to the M1 Pro. I need a suggestion . is it ok to switch from the M4 Max 32 GB RAM , 32 GPU to the M4 Pro with 48GB RAM, 20 GPU. I have memory-intensive development apps.

[@Shawshank00]

Yes

[@iXeo81]

I just upgraded from MBA 2017 base model to a M4 Mac mini base model. It's amazing. If you don't need a mac as laptop it's a no brainer. Best mac value ever.

[@briang6652]

In my case, I chose the same same basic M4 Pro MacBook w/ 24GB RAM for $1999 also. After order arrival, fortunate to get trade in credit $705 for M1 MacBook Pro w/ 32GB RAM, 512GB disk in good condition; thus the upgrade to 3 generations of Apple silicon isn't that expensive. My needs of such specs include web development using IDE w/ plugins, local web server, background script processing continuous tasks, and running docker of multiple servers (database, memory). Reviewing docs and testing would use tens of browser tabs. The system runs smoothly running together with daily apps like email, music or video player and office production apps use most of RAM w/ barely any swap. The older MB's extra 8GB RAM out of 32GB was only occasionally used when running VM like virtual Windows.

[@maxweinbach3996]

$705? You got robbed and Apple has destroyed your wallet

[@briang6652]

@@maxweinbach3996 Maybe, for 4-yr old refurb MBP that did cost around 1800.

[@Isaac-fp1nx]

@@briang6652 how’s the fan noise, if any?

[@briang6652]

@@Isaac-fp1nx mostly silent. Haven’t run long intense things. Not thorough testing.

[@maxweinbach3996]

@@briang6652 Buying apple = winning anyway

[@Skaratak]

Already requested it, yet you keep ignoring it: Rather than the absolutely useless Figma test, add some serious apps, like Matlab or DrawThings (Ai image generator) to add more real-world comparison values! Also, whenever possible, please add graphs of some older M1/M2/M3 chips. Thanks :)

[@DonutAgain]

exactly, all the KZbinrs keep testing these tools only they use, who cares....

[@TonyVoice-X]

I would like to see some real-world tests using Adobe After Effects.

[@kerningandleading]

As someone who uses Figma all the time, this is not a particularly good test. Exporting is something that we do very rarely in Figma. The real benefit is how it can behave when actually working on the files. Can you navigate around the canvas quickly, change pages that are not loaded into ram, and even launching a prototype would be WAY more valuable than just exporting. Not sure how to systematically test that though.

[@amirtorhan2762]

You are very wrong. That project is brought to us by 500 designs, one of the BEST design studios in California!

[@TonyVoice-X]

@@amirtorhan2762 😂😂😂😂

[@carlosdelacova1943]

Purchased 14 inch M4 MacBook Pro. Love it.Great for my needs. Great video. thank you!!

[@amirtorhan2762]

I would really like to see a battery test with lighter tasks between the regular, Pro and Max chip. Because afterall, I think most people spend most of the time doing basic stuff on their laptops.

[@Wunderkinddd]

Real question is 12-core vs 14-core it’s so hard to decide! What do you recommend?? I think the 14-core uses more battery but is it significant?? That’s the answer I’m looking for

[@MaxTechOfficial]

It’s insignificant. The extra performance will make your tasks finish faster so it’ll balance out power usage

[@fmax6000]

@@MaxTechOfficialMax, please compare the M4 Pro binned vs not binned. I bought the binned M4 Pro Mini only because I couldn’t wait for a month for the custom one, in binned with 10gbe. But I’m thinking of returning it back and ordering the unbinned + 10Gbe online. Yet, I’m so impressed by the power compared to my unbinned M1 Pro MBP and these benchmarks. Nobody on YT has done this comparison, please. And the difference in fan noise if there’s any. Thanks in deed for all the efforts you’re putting.

[@EnriqueRivera-sz2ph]

The most important factor to consider is something that I believe they covered in a previous video, size! I think the difference between a 16 inch 12 core and 14 inch 14 core would be negligible. That said, 14-core 16 inch is probably the best laptop in the world, for the price.

[@HandyTot]

@@fmax6000 Its a 6-10% difference across the board, I watched it on KZbin I forgot the video. Obviously GPU was the biggest difference. I picked it up because...$200 in the long run is not a lot.

[@oren_katz]

Should I buy the 14” M4 MacBook Pro / M4 Mac Mini with the m4 pro 24gb ram 512gb ssd or m4 16gb ram 512gb ssd configuration for my use case? I need it for beginners photo and video editing, programming, web browsing, watching yt videos, listening to music and podcasts with high quality audio interface and headphones amp, taking it to university with me sometimes, and media consumption.

[@RavagerLink]

I would love if these comparisons include rendering something on SketchUp + VRay.

[@google_doodles-games]

14" m4 pro 12c vs 14c, heat/performance trade offs please 🥺

[@senak6406]

9:22 Excuse me, how long did that take?

[@pingbookent]

Do you have plan to review M4 MAX ?

[@valentinomc]

Great video, Max. I am glad I chose the M4 Pro 48GB 1TB. It's a great upgrade from the M2 Air.

[@lomaxo3978]

Great Vid! Will you guys do a comparison between m4 pro 12 Core and 14 cores? Greetz from Germany…cheers

[@chris6131]

I would like to see that too.

[@mindsettek22]

Great video as always! I hope to see a the m4 pro-binned vs non binned comparison soon!

[@TranCeFORM3R]

everything esle is unesseort for a 3k computer

[@TranCeFORM3R]

computer shoud las decades

[@TranCeFORM3R]

espcial thi level of computing

[@TranCeFORM3R]

its so quick

[@TranCeFORM3R]

no joke

[@DS-pk4eh]

How that M4 Pro compares to M2 Max from mbp 14"? Thanks

[@markspagnuolo5792]

So is the 24GB RAM sufficient for most tasks and leaving multiple apps open? Or do you need to cough up another $400 for the 48GB RAM?

[@param2014]

It is more than enough.

[@Duvdeve]

I think for a 14 inch laptop it is enough, you will not be opening that many tabs like you would on a desktop computer

[@georgegl3192]

Just a quick Q: is the fan noise a problem? and how quickly do hey kick in? are we back to the intel days?

[@NMEofdaST8]

nope no issue and absolutely nothing like intel bs

[@308snipa]

Hey Max, think we could see a M4 vs M1 Pro or M2 Pro since the are both discounted on Amazon

[@UraFlight]

Can I connect m4 pro to my old iMac 2019 screen?

[@LatexFashionTV]

Is there anywhere we can download or purchase the M4 desktop wallpapers you use in your reviews? I want the M4 Max one so bad for when my 128GB beast gets here 😂

[@mootsym]

I’m curious what you guys do for backing up files. Many suggest not paying for internal storage and using external. That’s fine, but then are you backing up what’s stored on an external drive.. onto another external drive? Isn’t that super tedious? Or do most pay for TB of cloud storage and use that as a backup? I’m old fashioned and still feel leery of Apple or whatever services storing all my personal data and pictures etc. Internal and external drives do fail.. so again, how are y’all backing up years worth of files?

[@adr.adriansyah]

Hi . Could u compare the MBP M3 Pro with MBP M4 ..

[@YopiCahya]

Try comparing the M3 Pro vs M4 which are currently priced the same at $1599, which one is more worth it?

[@businessreform]

Thank you for this video, you just helped me decide to go with the M4 Pro version.

[@justinmilum2638]

I'm aware that this is for the MBP and not the Mini, but after seeing the Lightroom test... I am so glad I decided to finally replace my 2020 i7 iMac with the M4 Mini. Approx. 9 mins compared to your test from years ago showing my iMac took almost 22 mins. Absolutely insane

[@pipser110]

This right here is the comparison I have been waiting for, thank you! I am going to be upgrading from a 2012 Intel MBP (yes you read that right, 2012) I maxed out the RAM and swapped out the HDD to an SSD and it has served me well over the years. Considering I plan on keeping the new machine for at least 5 years minimum I think the extra $400 will be worth it. I just wished it started with a 1TB drive instead, oh well I'll just have to live with using external storage. Thanks for the hours and hours of testing you guys do to bring us this much needed information. It is truly appreciated.

[@desmondstallworth2934]

Is that high power mode only in the notebooks?

[@OlegNikitin17]

Such a HUGE difference for only 20% higher price! WOW! Thank you so much guys for testing it out! Love from Russia!

[@RA-nm9xu]

Actually, 25% higher price. But yes, a great value.

[@OlegNikitin17]

@ anyways, 40-50% better performance in many tasks for 25% higher prices = great deal 😜

[@Bai-Hui]

That doesn't mean that the pro is a good value. It means that the non-pro is overpriced.

[@maddawgzzzz]

@@RA-nm9xu true, and with tax included its actually 27.8% higher price, and the truth is most people dont need a pro, they want one but they truly dont need it, and waiting 26 seconds longer for that one time you actually use all your cores isnt worth 400 bucks lol

[@wickedchicken1732]

What most reviews doing an Xcode compile comparison leave out is that while compiling is faster it's debugging that has gotten fast AF with the new new M4 Pro. Been using my MBP M4 Pro for several days now and debugging my code, especially on device, is now not painful to do. It jumps to break points instantly and the local variables are all present, no more waiting. This vastly improved debugging performance is what's going to save me a lot of time vs compile improvements. Upgraded from MBP M1 Pro.

[@kenix99]

Hey, thanks for this, do you have the 24 GB RAM option?

[@wickedchicken1732]

@@kenix99 Yes, I think the M4 Pro models all start at 24gb RAM.

[@beace4436]

do the fans spin while you use Xcode? i dont want the fans to spin and i'm worried as it used more power it will. i can get an M4 24GB 1TB for £1790 or a M4 Pro 24GB 1TB for £2030, what do you think is better for software development?

[@wickedchicken1732]

@@beace4436 While coding or debugging, no not yet or at least not such that I can hear them spin. If you do a lot of clean full compiles, that might kick off the fan if you're working in a large project. I would think both versions of the MBP would work fine for coding. I went with the M4 Pro as I intend to keep this as my primary dev machine for 4-5 years.

[@beace4436]

@@wickedchicken1732thanks for the reply! what storage size did you get? i can get a basemodel with the 12 core and 512GB for £1820 but i'm not sure it's big enough for programming

[@insoft_uk]

What’s needed is M4 Pro v M4 Pro Binned version is it worth it

[@robertkremen]

what is theretically max resolution and refresh rate for thunderbolt 5 ? 6k120hz?

[@two1delta1]

Curious about comparing this base M4 Pro at $2k vs upgraded to better CPU and 20 core GPU at $2.4k

[@videofrat3115]

The difference in battery is not that small: 32/25= 1.28. That's a 28% more battery life that could mean a few hours if you are browsing the web or working out of home. For people that don't need the extra power thats considerable

[@kylecoolky1189]

If you're not pushing the limits of the SoC, the battery life will be an even smaller difference. Just web browsing, they'll both be roughly the same.

[@videofrat3115]

@kylecoolky1189 in fact they won't be the same even when browsing the web. (Even Apple themselves state this on their website) . The bigger the chip the more power inefficient it becomes, just get a bunch of browser tabs / email open all day long and you will drain faster on a bigger chip. Same if you have a car with a bigger engine, it will spend more fuel, even when sitting in traffic. I experienced this first hand in previous M chip generations as I work unplugged very often.

[@videofrat3115]

@@kylecoolky1189 not necessarily, bigger chips often spend more power even at idle.

[@leonardthomas629]

You mentioned a need for 1 TB for the Thunderbolt 5 ports. Can you elaborate?

[@feelingaLittleRandy___Gregg]

@maxtechofficial in the @8:34 minute mark your graphics are wrong. You said M4pro was 240 tracks, M4 was 140..... you put up the opposite of what you stated.

[@feelingaLittleRandy___Gregg]

PS I really enjoy your uploads.

[@MichaelSidneyTimpson]

Your chart for Logic is wrong, you have the numbers flipped at 8:36

[@firdaus931]

Would you be able to test out using Lightroom's AI denoise? That is something I'd use quite often and would like to know which chip I should choose. Thanks in advance!!

[@beace4436]

i'm a programmer. should i get an M4 24GB 1TB for £1790 or a M4 Pro 12c 24GB 1TB for £2030

[@michaelharmon5502]

At 8:38, the chart displaying tracks in Logic, I think you have the M4 and M4 Pro labeling reversed. You said the M4 Pro got 240 tracks and the M4 got 140, but the chart says the opposite. In the future, could you elaborate more on audio production please? You don't mention if there are any plugins on those tracks. Just recording audio doesn't use that much CPU. It's things like convolution reverb and analog modeling processors with oversampling that use the most CPU. I know being a KZbin creator your focus is more on visual, but there are many people doing audio and music who watch your videos.

[@unknownKnownunknowns]

great vid would love to see all generations of vs M1,2,3 BBP 16" compared!

[@lewgrant6441]

I'd be curious to see the Mac mini M4 and M4 Pro put thru the same evaluation - I suspect the answer is far less likely to be the Pro since: 1) the mini pro is a lot more than a $400 difference 2) the pro isn't likely to have twice the cooling hardware

[@EdaTheOwlLadyFan94]

I don't know if anyone can potentially help me with this: I am still going back and forth between nano texture or standard display. On the one hand, it does look good (better than I thought) when seeing it in person in the Apple Store. On the other hand, my primary concern is can it potentially be scratched more easily compared to the stander display, especially if a crumb gets stuck on the keyboard and moves around a little bit when say rotated in a backpack. Even the Apple Store employees didn't really help me with this question. I am more confused than ever.

[@youknownothing3766]

I returned my standard. Ordered a nano texture. Its just easier on my eyes for reading. With regards to marks and stuff. I plan on getting applecare plus and see how it goes. Ill still becareful with it. But not overly careful. Hence the base m4 for my needs. Costs less. Supports my usecase, a portable machine for youtube and light surfing to kill time when outside. Im not gonna worry about anything else. Applecare+ insurance should just let you enjoy and use it as is.

[@EdaTheOwlLadyFan94]

@@youknownothing3766 Do you think the the minor color reduction should be a significant reason to go with the standard is if a MacBook is your primary media consumption device. When I saw it in person, it didn't bother me put I could tell something was slightly off. Or maybe is was just my mind saying "how good this is"

[@youknownothing3766]

@@EdaTheOwlLadyFan94 it wasnt off by much was what I notice. It still looked incredible. I have always known that nano dulls the colours a little. I owned a m1 pro MBP and studio display and purposely didnt get nano on the studio display when comparing them in store. But the new one on the M4 feels different. I played both the LG Oled video on store on 2 macbook pros. One with nano one without. The colour difference wasnt as profound. It was close. But the nano display anti glare sold me. It was so much easier on the eyes. I dont have the best of eyes now given 30 years of using computers and being in IT. The whites on nano are dulled. Which suits me, the full bright whites on a standard can feel burning at times. Id suggest you go try it out and decide, plus consider your use cases. I will be taking the m4 mbp out a bit, so nano makes sense as my environment where I use it can vary in lighting.

[@NirHason]

Thanks for the comparison! Can you please make a comparison of the Mac mini M4 Pro 12/16 vs M4 Pro 14/20? I’m not sure if I should go with the 14 cores and 512 of storage or 12 cores and 1TB.

[@AtariST]

Love these M4 videos. I would really like to see some focused on RAM and more business use case. Not everyone uses Macs for A/V work. People in our company run a lot of different applications plus a lot of browser tabs across multiple virtual desktops. We crunch numbers and do data conversions on large files in the command line while in the aforementioned tasks. M4 Max 36GB or M4 pro 48GB?

[@Astral_Thunder]

when are you going to play native Macs games and compare to windows laptop?

[@DaytonPruet]

Are there any videos comparing these new M4 MacBook Pros vs the Surface 7 laptop with the Snapdragon X Elite ARM chips?

[@patrickbateman516]

With all the Apple Intelligence stuff coming, will 16 GB of RAM be enough in the next few years? The RAM upgrade is the main reason I’m considering the M4 Pro, as the price difference isn’t significant if I were to opt for 24 GB on the M4

[@Skaratak]

As long you can disable those AI gimmicks, we should be fine even with 16GB. I think for the next 5 years at least, as long you dont run heavy programs at the same time (like I do with Blender, Photoshop and DrawThings, I really need my 32GB)

[@yawpoku96]

What is the diffrent between MBP M4 and MB M4

[@zirienger]

It would be interesting to see comparison between base 14" M4 Pro and base 16" M4 Pro - trying to decide between them.

[@Mr102185]

Thanks 🙏🏽 Max for making this video. I’m just going to pay the extra $400 for the M4 Pro. I’m coming from the 2019 MacBook 13” i5 Intel Processor 🤦🏾‍♂️ I know y’all. I’m way behind haha. Is the M series silicon chips really worth the hype frfr?

[@FuzTheCat]

8:42 I think the top one is 140 tracks and the middle one is 240 tracks? Absolutely enjoying your content, thanks for all the hard work!

[@dk0898]

The Base 14” MBP M4 Pro really seems to be the best value this year when it comes to MacBooks.

[@christosbinos8467]

I'd agree though depends on regional prices. In Australia it's a huge difference price wise

[@acnvs]

Thanks for the video! Are you guys planning a 14" 12/16 vs 14/20 comparison? 🙏

[@MFoley-tv3zh]

I find it interesting that no one has compared the M4's vs the Snapdragons. Very interesting. Are either of these companies prohibiting/discouraging this in any way?

[@sparkwilkie2577]

I'm hoping you'll have a 16" M4 Pro MAX version vs 16" M4 max BASE version, I think there's quite some of us stuck in between there!!! Thanks man

[@Darrin.Crawford]

@8:30 - your chart is reversed. M4 Pro should be 240 tracks.

[@sneakkyz3696]

Will the iPad Pro m4 equal the performance of the m4 Macbook or m4 Mac mini? Anyone?

[@josephdelvin7771]

Great video! Is there a chance you’ll do a video M4pro vs M4max? Or even 14inch vs 16inch. This will be my first laptop purchase, and I’m undecided between a 14 or 16 inch. Any recommendations?

[@robertchapman1600]

When discussing music production (e.g., Logic Pro), could you also comment on the amount of fan noise generated by each computer model? We home-based music production people oftentimes use our computer inside the recording room, thus, computer fan noise is a factor. Thank you!

[@tbirdparis]

Logic Pro only uses P cores for audio processing, so that's why the difference is so marked between the M4 and M4 Pro Chip. And also, yes the chart is labelled incorrectly as many people already pointed out.

[@ofermaor]

There's an error in the slide on the Logic Pro X Maximum Tracks - it shows 240 for the M4 and 140 for the M4PRO. Opposite of speech and reality :)

[@Cowicide]

What about compared to PC computers? Compared with 3D rendering, video editing, etc.? Why buy an M4 Mac?

[@charruaporelmundo]

NObody has done the M4pro 14-CPU, 20 GPU vs the next one M4 Max 14 Cpu, 32 Gpu, where the 1s option can do 48 Ram and the second only 36, so the question is, for us Photographers, some video, Adobe LrC/Ps will do better in the 1st one with more Ram, or on the second one with less Ram but better Gpu?

[@joelarson6884]

will you be testing m4 pro unbinned?

[@fuchicanete3372]

can you compare M4pro 16 cores vs M4 pro 20 cores please?

[@prabitprime8929]

What is bend model??

[@sergeysav6236]

Do you know guys why 36 GB RAM is not available on Apple website and will be?

[@Antimonious]

This is the video I was waiting for!!!

[@mu-ma-in]

Why no full DaVinci Resolve tests any more? The new machines should be as attractive as for FCP-X.

[@wk-kln]

The $400 difference offers great value. If you have the budget, opt for the M4 Pro base model!

[@merlinsrobe4621]

To summarize this video, the overall conclusion is that there will be no perceptible difference in performance between the M1 and the M4 processors for 99% of MacBook Pro users.

[@CGISOLOQ]

Can i get the link for the 500 designs for Figma? I love it and would like to test it on my own mac.

[@salehmuhammad01]

I'm interested in the comparison between M4 Pro Binned vs Unbinned vs M4 Max and also M3 Max

[@IImutantII]

12c or 14c m4pro??

[@TranCeFORM3R]

I wnnt with baseb upgrade the stroage to 1 Tb

[@pcworth]

I don't edit a lot of video, but i often edit low light skating photos with DXO Pureraw, the. ON1 or Capture one and then with Topaz Photo AI. Currently have a 13 inch 2020 M1, but planning on a new Macbook Pro during the Black Friday sale. Still trying to decide between a 14 with the M4, M4Pro(12), and 16 with M4Pro(12). My last 15/16 inch Laptop was the Titanium Powerbook, so I’m not sure whether im ready for the larger platform or not. Hoping your videos and an apple store visit will help. Has anyone purchasec a 14 or 16 and wished they got the other? If so, why?

[@newellfeds]

Great videos as usual, Please make a video on the 16 in MacBook Pro 14 core CPU and 20 core GPU base model

[@AngelFX21]

What’s the site to see the temps at the top?

[@MaxTechOfficial]

TG Pro app

[@Sankew]

Thank you for the teardown, and yes the M4 Pro is really good value this year, might i say, better than the M1 Pro too in terms of Value

[@jameshopkins1919]

I love your real world tests. Maybe you should change all your time graphs to second so they scale right (can always add (min:sec) beside. Also can you test these MacBook Pros in low power mode to see how that ch ages things up?