M4 or M4 Pro MacBook Pro? NOT what I expected...

[@TitelSinistrel]

I have a 14inch M1 pro from work and it never breaks a sweat or spins up the fans. It is quite impressive seeing the "base" M4 being quicker in almost all but GPU tests.

[@ManavC-bs3fj]

M1 Pro is still going to be quieter than the base M4 as it has two fans compared to the M4's one

[@chidorirasenganz]

Technically it’s only raw GPU tests as in Blender or Cinebench M1 Pro gets smoked

[@anshulshah1703]

@@ManavC-bs3fjmaybe but I would also presume that the m4 uses less power than the M1 Pro machine so it might even out

[@zedpassway4140]

@@chidorirasenganz or Topaz or high calculation things like Tone Mapping.

[@LazerDon271]

Bro is just admitting to not doing real world.

[@MJLeeee]

5:48 Hotter surface temperature may imply the internal heat is getting pushed out much better. Surface temperature shouldn't be considered alone to determine the cooling performance.

[@Littlebrownchicken]

Makes sense

[@piotrd.4850]

It still means that Apple doesn't give flying faq about innovating in battery itself and thermals.

[@MrHattor]

Was just coming to say this!

[@belugabruh9112]

They did not change the thermal interface.

[@mikaelahyakuya3485]

Nah, it depends on the cooling design.

[@EnronnSierra]

Most people will just buy these to watch KZbin and browse the web.

[@user-hl9jq8iz4i]

😂

[@HaOmTECH]

MacBook Air is made for those people

[@mikes7745]

I just bought a base M4 Mini and have no need for higher performance, and here I am watching all the speed tests!

[@NicoEstebanR]

The only reason I’ll get one is because of the pro motion display and mini led. But for my usage I’d be fine with an Air or Mini.

[@alyousuf]

Why you hating 😂

[@Everett737]

I finally upgraded from my 2013 15” MacBook Pro Retina yesterday. Not because it couldn’t do anything I wanted it to do, but because my daughter’s 2011 13” MBP’s fans were annoyingly loud while she was playing Minecraft. The 2013 Retina will be a nice upgrade for her. For my replacement, I decided to go with a refurbished M1 Max 16” MBP with 32GB RAM and a 1TB SSD for $1,780. Keep an eye out for those M1’s coming on the used market as M1 owners finally see a significant value proposition to upgrade to M4. You may get an even better deal than I found.

[@AffordExplorer]

where do you buy refurbished ones? thinking of selling my 2019 16' (still with intel i9)

[@Everett737]

@@AffordExplorer I bought mine on Amazon, eBay is probably the other most common place. Both have buyer protections. Best Buy is another place to look and Apple has its own refurbished website but expect to find more M2s than M1s on those last two.

[@snoopdagg7900]

m4 pro (around the same price you paid for the m1 max) would smoke the m1 max, as it got much more improvements outside than the chips. bad mistake you made

[@Sojourner88]

Why do you hate your daughter. Just get her an M1 or M2 air

[@Spladoinkal]

If she's mostly using her computer to play games, why not go PC with a proper graphics card? Gaming has come a long way on Mac and Macs are nice overall but get her the right tool for the job. Don't give her a fork to eat soup.

[@fVNzO]

M4's are also particularly impressive next to M3 because they nerfed the bus width on M3, and M4 has the old layout but with way faster memory. So not just faster memory but substantially bigger bus widths as well. And off course an actual next generation node and not an interim one. I think the normal M4 Pro is a pretty staggering value if you were already looking at macbooks.

[@tbirdparis]

Nah, the M3 Pro's took a performance hit mostly because they had significantly fewer P cores. The memory bandwidth wasn't the main factor.

[@fVNzO]

@@tbirdparis For inference tasks it was the main factor that made the M3 Pro such a bad "upgrade". It was slower than the M1 Pro, and the M4 Pro is 50-60% faster in that task. But all the chips have gotten a decent boost in bandwidth due to the faster lpddr5.

[@Applecompuser]

Dont blow money on the latest. Get an m2 or m3 which will be discounted on price.

[@JustineCooksVegan]

So true regarding the m3 pro! Do you think the M4 pro with 48 gigs of ram is a good move for video editing or the M4 max chip with only 36 ram and a little more GPU/memory bandwidth is a better option? I’m getting a 14 inch too so the overheating concerns me in M4 max chip I heard the new neural engine could solve this but sounds like it didn’t

[@Applecompuser]

@@JustineCooksVegan If you are worried, get the Mac Studio. More room to dissapate heat. Also, the 16 inch MBP has better themals than the 14. Also, one generation prior will save you a ton of cash and work fine for years. It bothers me that Yters dont do more real world testing with them.

[@rideroliver]

Upgraded from a 13" M1 8gb MacBook Air for mostly Xcode work to 14" 24gb M4 MacBook Pro. So far, couldn't be happier. Though in normal day-to-day use without using swap memory, my RAM is already at 14 GB. In use. Might be just index in first week tweaking glad I have the extra headroom in RAM for next few years.

[@a_spire]

I wish the 32gb option was a bit more affordable. I have a ThinkPad with 64 gigs of ram and intellij and node use like 20 gigs 😢

[@LazerDon271]

@@a_spire Apple are shafting people on the memory. And don't give me the "it's more efficient" crap. When my laptop is sitting near 100% utilisation of memory it's running like junk

[@chidorirasenganz]

@@LazerDon271 you don’t want to “waste” RAM. If the system isn’t using it to cache data then you paid extra to not utilize it. Hence it’s always going to appear full but unless the memory pressure is yellow or red, you’re good

[@rideroliver]

@@chidorirasenganz fingers crossed for many years to come the pressure stays Green

[@slalomie]

Good investment. Dunno how you did Xcode work with a base 8gb M1 for so long since Xcode is a memory hog. I’d regularly see swap slowdown on a base 8gb M2 running the simulator

[@deerock7]

M1 Max since '21. Just ordered the M4 Max 64g ram, 4tb SSD. I do a lot of things from pro photography to mixing albums and tv shows for various studios...the M1 Max has been great until it wasn't. i think the M4 Max will suffice. I don't want desktops anymore since I'm gunnin' on the run more these days around the country with the photography, then mixing TV shows for HBO in a hotel room. ;) Excited to see how the M4 does.

[@DigiDriftZone]

It's incredible that the M4 Pro outperforms the M3 Max by 20% in CPU performance. If you're not doing a lot of GPU heavy tasks, it represents amazing value.

[@danal8246]

Did you watch the video? It performed worse than the m3 max

[@DigiDriftZone]

@ in which cpu test?

[@HarunoGasai]

it depends on the test, for geekbench that's true but not 20%, only about 5-7%, but on other sites and different tests he took there, the m3 max is stronger and faster.

[@HarunoGasai]

@@DigiDriftZone did you watch the video?

[@DigiDriftZone]

​@@HarunoGasai Watched this one again, most of the tests are heavily swayed for GPU testing but you're right, it's surprising the GeekBench one was only 5-7% faster as you have the same core count and Apple claim each core should be 20% faster? - hmmm

[@guillermovic]

Here in Spain the base M4 costs 1929€ and the base M4 Pro costs 2449€. I can live with the M4 fan noise, and save 500€... But in the US it's worth to get the M4 Pro

[@thedownunderverse]

Youll never hear the fan

[@WaterShowsProd]

Don't forget that in Spain you're looking at prices with the VAT already factored. In The U.S. there is sales tax added after the price sticker, which varies in percentage from state-to-state.

[@MichaelVLC26]

I got yesterday my M4 base model in Japan (soy Español) for around 1500 EUR and I am super happy with it. I do not hear anything at all running my mundane tasks so I would definitely get the base one. The only good thing about buying in Spain is that you kind of get the best warranty (3 years) out there but yeah, if you travel somewhere else like US or Japan it is worth buying there.

[@Jeorgy92]

Yo he comprado el base con nanotexture y ya

[@bodigames]

@@WaterShowsProdthe US tax rate is much lower than the Europes 21%.

[@MSC-87]

Finally. Today I ordered the MacBook Pro 14" with M4 Pro 14/20 cores base model with 24GB RAM and 1 TB SSD. There were still good Black Friday deals in Germany. It replaces my MacBook Pro 13" from 2013 with i5 dual core, 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD. I think it's a solid upgrade.

[@brianthomas9254]

You’ve confirmed my purchase :) I got the M4 Pro with nano-texture display. I would just add that the M4 Pro comes with thunderbolt 5 ports and the base M4 Thunderbolt 4 only.

[@broadcast3ful]

How do you feel about the nano texture display so far? Any way it's worse over the regular glossy one?

[@rutpshah]

​@@broadcast3ful If you are going to use your laptop outside a lot then only go for nano texture display. Also you might need to compromise on text and color sharpness on Nano texture display. Test yourself in a store. Don't rely on reviews because different people test in different environment.

[@brianthomas9254]

@@broadcast3fulIt won’t be here until the 19th for some reason but I’ll reply as soon as I get it and let you know. I’m kind of surprised based on M4 Pro with only the nano glass would take so long but 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@KevPez-IS]

14” vs 16” thermals, yes please

[@TVsBen]

Gaming performance improvements are not just because of the cores. Remember that the M3 Pro only has 150 GB/sec of memory bandwidth, which was a huge step down from the M2 Pro's ~200 GB. Meanwhile, the M4 Pro has 273 GB/sec. When you get into those very high resolutions like you're testing, that makes an enormous difference.

[@DhawalJagtap]

Honestly, I don't think that the fan noise is a big deal, as I am already accustomed to the noise of my Intel MacBook Pro. I'm really thinking of upgrading to these M4 Pro Machines. The 1999$ machine is really tempting as Luke said.

[@amirtorhan2762]

But when does the fans start to spin up? I don't think regular people are running benchmarks on their laptops on a daily basis. I have almost never heard the fans on any of my Macs before.

[@maravreloaded]

Also. How do you distinguish three laptops that look the same without checking the "about the device"?

[@97nelsn]

I’m still running a Mid-2012 MacBook Pro that’s beyond outdated and every year I always write in the comment section that I will be upgrading to an M-Series Mac and I never do. Hopefully I do so this year and a base M4 MBP to me is much better than what I currently have which is a 3rd Gen Intel i7 Processor.

[@EEEEMMMMKKKK]

I would like to have the noise and thermals comparison of the M4 Pro 12 vs 14 core

[@EnzoFoove]

the difference is probably virtually meaningless, otherwise I think he’d have mentioned it

[@amara_ctk100]

I’d be interested to see if there’s a noticeable difference in thermals or fan noise between the M4 Pro 12c 14” and the M4 Pro 14c 14”.

[@larstillberg412]

16" M4 Max here. A remarkable machine, but a significant challenge for non-touch typists. The key gaps are now black, even on the silver model-a true nightmare for those who rely on visual aiming when typing.

[@ChaosMoogle]

Add the end screens 😉

[@Wunderkinddd]

You said binned m4 pro but then your highlight m4 pro non binned. 12:29

[@TheVoiceofReason4ya]

The M1 Pro has held up incredibly well for many of these benchmarks related to productivity, and exporting times of video. Still very impressed with it's performance. Maybe when the redesign comes with m6 we will have a look see.

[@Wunderkinddd]

Do you recommend 12-core over the 14 core pro? That will reduce fan noise? A little more power for a little battery

[@DanielPvb4]

Upgrading from a M1 Macbook Pro to the base M4 Macbook Pro. The most I do when it comes to intensive work is graphic design so I'm not worried about the fans reving up. Excited to get it in hand!

[@bryonricketts385]

I’m upgrading from a 16” i7 intel 16/512 MBP to the 14” M4 chip 16/512 MBP. This is gonna be fun.

[@jonathanalcala2222]

So you mention towards the end of the video the best value for money is the binned version of the M4 Pro but then go on to highlight the scores of the M4 Pro, is that on purpose?

[@BrunelOnBoard]

What does the battery life look between the two?

[@gefthetalkingmongoose]

M3 Pro 14" user here - 6 months in, never heard the fans. I guess they're in there somewhere.

[@vasugarg863]

M3 pro vs M4 base what would you go for if you had to make this choice today at same price?

[@gefthetalkingmongoose]

@@vasugarg863 I use mine for graphic design so I'd be fine with an M4 base. Probably the 1TB version with a nano-texture display

[@niltonc.7333]

I dont do gaming, but for the same price, what you think: M4 10core/10gpu but 32GB or M4pro 12core/16gpu but 24gb?

[@Spladoinkal]

I think I can explain the performance compared to the M2 ultra: Although the M2 Ultra has TONS of cores, in order to utilize any of that the software it's running has to be built to handle that many cores. So if the software can only utilize for example 16 cores, then any number over that no matter how large will offer no boost. In fact, since in a lot of cases it's easier to have a HIGHER core speed on smaller dies, sometimes the cpu with LESS cores can win in certain apps. Where the M2 ultra would shine in that case is being able to handle other tasks while simultaneously rendering at full speed and still being able to handle other tasks without any slowdown provided there is enough RAM to also handle both.

[@michaelharmon5502]

In your charts you list an "M4 Pro Binned" in addition to a separate line for the "M4 Pro". What does "Binned" mean?

[@bonedyone]

binned is 12 core cpu/ 16 core gpu, m4 pro is 16 cpu/ 20 gpu

[@madshoisgaard]

Two M4pro's - the lower end is the binned version

[@maravreloaded]

Is the base M4 good enough? With 16 ram 512 SSD.

[@sayurii290]

Sure100%%

[@bernardlesperance742]

Agree, the binned version is the sweet spot for many people but I would up the SSD storage to 1TB for the extra bit of performance it gives (in addition to double the storage).

[@bccengiz]

Still going with the m1 air family. It hasn't let me down yet. Of course the m4 is pretty good but right now the m1 is enough for my needs.

[@Stachoo999]

What about the thing, that upgrading from M4 Pro 12c to 14c gives you only 9-12% difference in performance despite having 25% more GPU cores? I'm so torn about it and basically it's a 6-10fps difference in real world use.

[@metamon2704]

I really like to know more about the M4 Pro binned model, it seems to be just a bit slower than the normal M4 Pro but in Blender it a lot slower, I wonder if that is an error since it doesn't make sense to me.

[@adambielski2743]

This is a mistake. Real time is about 31 seconds. He either made a mistake or showed time from first render which always takes longer.

[@markpeene4757]

2:28 are you sure the results are correct going from 16 to 20 cores almost cuts the time in half that doesn't make any sense

[@adambielski2743]

This is a mistake. Real time is about 31 seconds. He either made a mistake or showed time from first render which always takes longer.

[@JustineCooksVegan]

Thank you for this!! Did the M4 pro ever got hot on the touchpad? I had to return an M3 max cuz it was getting hot already so now looking at an M4 pro vs m4 max for video editing. PLEASE if you can include some 14 inch M4pro vs M4 max compares that would be amazing! Would be curious to see a little CapCut in the mix as I use that a lot too like many creators these days doing short/long form 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@MrZdrojek]

But there is no M4 Max on the market....

[@opedromagico]

Watching this on my 15' MBP mid-2014 i7 16gb 512gb.. I just love it, I do video editing (FCPX) and photo editing (Photoshop) and it works great, but it's time to upgrade as I want to try some new programs that won't run on Big Sur like Pixelmator Pro (so I can finally say goodbye to Adobe) and Arc Search (to see if it's as good as the mobile version).. Guess I'll be buying a 16' M4 Pro 24gb 1tb! Thanks for this video 🙌🏻

[@pineappleapricotjelly4706]

I would actually prefer a noisy fan over silence. It really helps with lowering the temps and sustaining the load

[@ScipioHun]

Actually I don't know why is it so important to bring a new MacBook Pro every year. Most probably there are hardly any people who really can utilize all the capabilities of such a machine. The previous version of the MacBook Pro could serve anyone for years without any problems.

[@PeterWhite-q1k]

It's all about use case. My M1 MacBook Pro is all I'll ever need since I retired. If a person's use case changes dramatically then getting a new.newer model may make perfect sense, no?

[@ghost-user559]

I think the thing comments like this miss, is that there is always someone who hasn’t even gotten m1 yet. If someone was still using intel, which many people still do, then this update cycle still makes perfect sense.

[@techinrl9869]

When testing fan noise, were you running them in High Power mode or Auto? It’d be interesting to see a comparison between Auto and High Power.

[@stevenrast4261]

high power is only on 16" MBP right?

[@matthewhill5426]

Throw low power into the mix on fan noise comparisons

[@techinrl9869]

@ No, on this year’s model, it’s on both the 14” and 16” versions.

[@ericbauer4559]

Got my M4 Mac mini yesterday. Only upgraded the storage to 512gb. I was able to stick it in my laptop bag, with my laptop. Super impressed with its size. I think it'll be a great replacement for my Mac Studio, probably going to end up trading in the studio for a MBP.

[@HenrikoMagnifico]

We've definitely reached a plateau regarding laptop performance. Like, for 99% of people going from the M3 to M4 or even M2 to M4 won't make any noticable difference, right?

[@stevenrast4261]

Well for web browsing no, but if your pushing them at all, you sure will notice

[@m-stat9]

from M1 Pro/Max you will certainly notice.

[@rockets4kids]

@@stevenrast4261 For many people out there web browsing is going to be the most intensive task and it is web browsing which often forces an upgrade.

[@lukemiani]

I think it might mean someone who previously would have needed a Pro chip might be fine with a regular M4 chip, but yeah the performance is quickly becoming overkill haha

[@oh-noe]

there is no plateau but it is incremental. You won't feel much of a difference between M3 to M4 but you will from M4 to M8. From M1 to M4 you will feel a difference though. You have to jump several generations up to feel it (and you actually have to do something that uses the power too).

[@FDNY8231]

I am looking forward to the M4 iMac video. I am upgrading my 2019 intel 27" iMac to the M4 iMac so I'm interested to see it in action. Getting the 10/10 core, 24GB RAM and 512GB (Wish was higher) SSD.

[@NathanMillerVisuals]

I have the M2 Pro with 16GB and I absolutely love it. My work lately has been maxing out the memory so M4 Pro with 48GB seems like a good move. Since getting the M2 Pro my event videography work has graduated to a different level.

[@CivilsdailyIAS]

thanks man.. this has been helpful

[@JuhaNyman]

SSD Speeds? It almost looks like the M4 Oro and Max have 2x faster SSDs than Base versions.

[@Justmakesomenoiz]

Base model m4 has 2600 read and 3709 write

[@JuhaNyman]

I can confirm. 14" with M4 Pro chip 1TB - 6350MB/s write, 5100MB/s read.

[@pppxxyy]

What was the fan sound like when you were gaming?

[@1zamboni]

I went with the M4 Pro base model updated to 1TB and nano screen option.

[@MapleEmpire]

i still haven't noticed any slowdown on the M1 so no reason to upgrade just yet

[@ahmedlaymoun408]

i would really like it if they specified what version of the m4 Pro they are testing the 12 or 14 CPU core on the charts

[@Notacet]

3:00 I’m sorry but it’s not too hard to discover why M2 Ultra GPU underperforms so much in Blender & Cinebench. Both of those take use of hardware raytracing improvements from M3 series onward.

[@johnbean3429]

Some context on the Geekbench ML benchmark: The Geekbench AI CPU test uses the AMX units on the Apple Silicon CPU. This is an accelerator used to speed up matrix operations, which is useful for the multiply-accumulate operations used heavily in AI inference. While the Geekbench AI NPU and GPU benchmarks are self-explanatory, I believe out of the CPU, NPU and GPU benchmarks, the GPU benchmarks carries the most weight. Although NPUs are very power efficient, they are still not as powerful as the GPU for actual heavy workloads like LLM inference, so LLMs usually still run on the GPU for maximum throughput, making their score the most relevant.

[@m-stat9]

in other words, if I upgrade from my 24c M1 Max to the full M4 Pro, I should notice big difference in CoreML backed workflows, like Stable Diffusion in DrawThings, right? Since it uses CPU+GPU+NPU

[@xXshinichiconanXx3]

M4, M4 Pro, M3 Max, M2 Ultra…WTF Apple Common, M5 Generation is gonna feature a M5 CS Competition ?

[@asmodeoux]

I was waiting for M4 MacBook Air 15 inch, but now with the $1599 Pros… with a much better screen, battery, speakers and a fan, while only 4 mm thicker I don’t see any reason to actually buy Air

[@billmakesmovies]

I have no idea how the M4 is the same or faster than my M1 Pro that has done everything I have asked of it for the last three years of video editing without a hiccup, but that's super cool. Just picked up the base 14" M4 512GB as a secondary and smaller laptop to my 16" M1 Pro 1TB. Sometimes you just need a smaller laptop! I'll check back in a few years when it's time to upgrade to the M6 or M7 pro, after Sony gives us an 8K FX6 III or something, then update my M1 Pro. lol Crazy times!

[@cortezdevinci]

😢😢I’m still stuck on an i5 mbp 2019 sounds like a jet 🛩️ engine when I’m making music

[@GerryChike]

Thanks!

[@chidorirasenganz]

It’s not surprising that M2 Ultra is about the same speed as M4 Pro since they score similarly in Blender’s benchmark 2500 to 2700 I believe

[@ProNab]

main reason for huge difference in m3 and m4 is due to 16gb ram offered on the base model, 8gb ram on previous base model was really limiting the true performance of M3

[@JuliusKonrad]

11:56 Your Highlighting in the Performance charts does not match your recommendation ;)

[@axematics]

Was looking for this in the comments. Bit misleading

[@duringthemeanwhilst]

when I bought my first M1 Pro MBP it too would spin up the fans regularly, until I did a PRAM reset and I've never heard a peep oy of the fans since. just upgraded to the M4 Pro, and no fan noise so far

[@sliwilly]

2:28 to clarify why m2 ultra is doing so bad here, starting from M3 chips apple added ray tracing cores which accelerate and doubles or quadruple the speed of renders in ray-traced renders like Blender uses for it is cycle render

[@Quared]

Got the unbinned M4 Pro for free from the M3 Pro (had a display issue and Apple gave a free replacement to the latest model), so far looks like its performing much better, even matching my gaming PC's 3060 Ti in GPU performance

[@Fen2C]

I think the sweet spot is the unbinned M3 Pro on discount or from the refurbished store - that’s what I bought last week when the M4 pricing was announced

[@Gobolinn]

im interested in the fan noise for the mac mini m4 pro, is there a video coming for the mini?

[@williamnugraha.]

Hi Luke, I’m planning to buy macbook pro but could not decided it yet. I just wanna ask, do you prefer m3 pro or m4 base model? Thanks

[@deltax7159]

About to finish my masters in applied statistics and considering the Mac mini M4 pro with 14cpu cores 20gpu cores , with 48GB RAM, 2TB SSD for a new personal home computer for data science work. Have always been a windows guy but this new mini looks so nice.

[@SULFURIOUS]

M4 base MBP14 here. I do not have such rpm at Cinebench, faulty cooling or thermal compound in test unit?

[@dorukyalcinsoy]

3 days since I got m4 base model, never heard of the fan noise yet

[@JaylinWallace-xp9wu]

Do you think the base model will hold up for years as well as the pro?

[@andreagiovagnoli1134]

GPU Render of classroom in blender was made with the native demo as it was downloaded from the site without change any settings? Only "GPU compute" and render?

[@adambielski2743]

For M4 Pro binner there is a mistake. Real time is about 31 seconds. He either made a mistake or showed time from first render which always takes longer.

[@anthonygreen161]

I feel like I understand the lackluster iPhone release now. They were laser focused and on something worthwhile.

[@DrSaahb]

Great video. Loved seeing how the different versions of MacBooks render and export videos.

[@hakim_isa]

It’s nice you got binned vs unbinned m4 pro comparison. It’s clear now to me they are not far off.

[@archie7012]

Hey Luke - can you please check the MacMini M4 Pro unbinned against the 14" MacBook Pro with the same M4 Pro unbinned? In terms of fan noise. That would be awesome!

[@torygeorge]

What was the fan noise like on the Binned version of m4 pro?

[@akin242002]

Others have noticed that with the regular M4 Mac Mini vs M4 Pro Mac Mini. The Pro version doesn't run as hot.

[@Ninja_Revenge]

My M1pro og mbp still going strong, won’t be upgrading anytime soon

[@kuroexmachina]

im more interested in the m4 max in the 14inch. does it overheat? is the performance the same as in the 16?

[@TechGameDev]

2:05 please stop using the cpu in blender it is not realistic every artist 3d use only the Gpu it is 3x 4x time faster on Mac (on pc up to 30 x faster the gpu)

[@ionantonakis5917]

Great video but I got confused. The M4 pro tested had 16 or 20 gpu cores? Because in most of the graphs you show 20c but at the end you say the base 16c is vfm but you show the same graphs

[@chrisw443]

Is the base m4 mac mini faster than a m2 pro mac mini?? I need to find out If I can sell my m2 for the new one with a small profit.

[@latinreuben]

What's confusing is u didn't label M3pro binned or unbinned like u did for m4pro...I thought u referred to m4pro to 14 cores until u wrote 18 cores.

[@mtonimkate]

In technology point of a view, and for more critical services, go with one update behind a latest one, for example, go with M3 pro while M4 they are fixing bugs and hitch, once they are stable go with M4 once M5 comes out.

[@shehanshaminda746]

as a heavy adobe after effects user, what will be the best ??. M4 Pro , M3 Max M3 Ultra ??

[@krypdezyr]

recommending binned but why box the unbinned ones?

[@htz26129]

This is by far the best comparison I have found on youtube. You come clearly to the point, no useless blah blah blah . Thanks a lot, it made my decision to the M4 pro.

[@jimberberian129]

I don't see the point of upgrading my 13' MBP 2018, 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports. Judge for yourself: Enormous, breathtaking CPU: quad-core Intel Core i5 2,3 GHz! Unbelievable graphics with Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655 with HUGE 1536 MB! Super FAST 8 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 which ENOUGH for EVERYTHING

[@wertywerrtyson5529]

Mac mini is the most impressive since you get the 10 core M4 for a low price. The iMac just gets the 8 core unless you pay extra. I’m interested to see the Studio get the M4 upgrade. Right now it makes no sense with the old M2.

[@Nesrr18]

I don’t know which to choose 🫣 M2 Pro 16GB or M4 16GB? Lightroom, Affinity Designer, basic video editing etc - coming from Air M2 8GB

[@ErvTV]

So what I’m hearing is that I should hang onto my M1 pro MacBook, unless I plan on getting an M4 pro as a replacement. It looks like the regular M4, while definitely an upgrade might not be worth the money. My M1 MacBook Pro is a fantastic machinewith 16 gigs of memory and one terabyte of hard drive.

[@legendp2011]

shame the m4 only has 1 fan. with dual fans I would consider it as being quite and affordable, while not throttling (like the airs) is a big advantage

[@AndroidGraphics]

Sleep mode is better or shutdown for longevity I am new Mac user

[@Bensonlaunh]

I like that you share the AI benchmark, which much content creators missed out. Thanks for the sharing

[@odusthecat]

I think we need a video of you putting the m4 Mac mini into a Wii… I would love to see how this one would fit inside of the Wii since it’s so much smaller now.

[@ClarkMercer]

Thanks for showing the graph compared to all the other M-series chips. Most reviewers don't do that.

[@andyprakash]

I’m still using my mid-2012 MacBook Pro and want to upgrade. I do a lot of raw photo editing in ON1 Photo Raw and some basic video editing in iMovie. I can’t use the latest ON1 or DaVinci Resolve since they will not work in my current specs. I’m thinking of 24GB 1TB M4 as that itself costs $1999. Can’t afford more than that. But I guess it should be enough for my needs. Right? Edit: I do need a 1TB ssd due to the sheer number of files I need regular access to and keep at least 3-4 apps open- photo editing, finder, browser, notes, preview etc.