M4 MacBook Pro Review - Things to Know

[@Dave2D]

Really nice improvements this year. Especially on the GPU and Screen options

[@redwanabir2557]

If you'd like a glossy display on your matte screen, you can always use a glossy screen protector to achieve the effect.

[@savethisforlater]

Tech is finding its sweet spot

[@batmanonholiday4477]

@@redwanabir2557 can you get some some sort third party matte coating/film after you bought the glossy screen or is there no way to tone down the reflections on macs other than ordering the nano-textures?

[@PKperformanceEU]

Does the displayed image take any sort of degradation over the glossy version? I mean sharpness, contrast, black levels etc?

[@deepaksuperrao]

Brother can you please give me one, I really need one for my law school

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

This is how you do a KZbin channel. All info, no bs and no begging. Effective. Efficient. And look at that... going on 4M subscribers. Well deserved. Well done.

[@streitkrafte]

That, and no annoying background music. 🎉

[@randomrandom3985]

damn this was too clean

[@RichardPergament]

Thought this as well

[@N0Xa880iUL]

Totally agreed

[@OccupiedMuffins]

Found the bot

[@johnadepelumi93]

When it comes to being concise without compromising on quality, you have to give it to Dave.

[@apaulture]

Totally agree.

[@devilsposterboy]

you are the first tech reviewer to care about music producers and my jaw dropped when the first slide had a graph with serum/omnisphere.... you are very loved man you dont even know

[@VardaanChawla]

Same!!!

[@apaulture]

I wondered if he took out the "h" in Omnisphere due to length.

[@devilsposterboy]

@@apaulture probably just a typo

[@AstrologicalLesedi]

iPhonedo also includes a Logic benchmark

[@devilsposterboy]

@ Yeah i saw. it was bad because it didn’t show anything to do with how much of a load it could take. Nobody cares about how fast it takes to export and stuff like that. Probably the least important part of the process

[@eseos]

I still have my M1 Max macbook pro 16”, it’s still a beast and i don’t have any particular reason to upgrade. I run my architectural stuff amazing, still sounds amazing, still have a massive battery life. It’s awesome .

[@sigma_z]

Just get a screen protector film for 10$, done. You're welcomed.

[@MaxJones123]

Same. My M1 still does all I want.

[@ricardosmith2060]

I'm still on a m1 air and not a complaint in the world. I'd argue that the first gen m series chips are still very competitive in today's market when compared to windows laptops especially at the price you can get them at now.

[@himanshutripathi7441]

ffs get the screen protector : as a owner of broken macbook pro m1 16"

[@adityach7]

I just got the M4 max, upgrading from M1 MBA. Hopefully I am not going to think of something else till M10 or something.

[@NM-hq1io]

Blud went straight to the point, no intro, no outro, no sponsors, no asking to sub, no asking to like, no asking to comment, just rawdogged value

[@mrporcupine3893]

This lighting and color grading is awesome. I like it 💡

[@Ghost-sz7uo]

cranking them reviews out like clockwork.

[@ci_merian]

it’s that time of the year 🙂‍↔️

[@plaintext7288]

shinji...

[@PeterRince]

It is worth noting that the M4 Max has 546 GB/s bandwidth only in the top version. The binned one has something around 406 GB/s.

[@ancientflames]

I can’t say I would ever notice or care but thanks for the info.

[@null_geodesic]

This is also to be expected, full set of memory controllers on binned dies are either faulty or shut down due to the rest being broken. If you opt in for a lesser chip, you can't get as much system memory either. 406 GB/s is also a step up from the M3 step down to 300 GB/s. M2 Max had 400 GB/s.

[@PeterRince]

@@null_geodesic True, but this info is veeery rarely given in any M4 materials. Check the charts that Dave used - it is all the same stuff, as everywhere else - M4 Max = 546 GB/s. This year it is even more tricky, because the memory options are locked and switching the RAM options causes in many cases also a change of the CPU type.

[@kaankoc9610]

@@ancientflamesi really wonder which people this things are useful for and for which workflow. maybe someone will leave a comment :)

[@ThatsPety]

​@ancientflames thats fine for you, but this is the "pro" device and that stuff does matter

[@ghunterforever]

as someone who is old enough to remember things: laptop screen use to be all matt finish. apple started doing glossy screen back in late 2008, and that was considered "trendy" because apple, and the appeared higher contrast, and now they are just going back to pre 2008 and ask you to pay a premium.

[@CyberTweaker]

Yep its called efficient marketing

[@DanielBradler]

I appreciate how clean this video was! No asking to subscribe before it even starts and no other unwanted BS. Just that what the video is about! Thanks dave!

[@Bwern]

After seeing your setup and how you do the camera work, I can understand now how you can pump out such high quality content so fast. Very impressive.

[@dimitardrew]

where can i see this?

[@Bwern]

@@dimitardrew Check his previous video of the Mac Mini

[@RaffayZFone]

I've been looking for M2 Ultra & M4 Max comparison entire day, glad you included them in your benchmark

[@soccerhaus1542]

A KZbinr who actually uses a Music Production test as a part of his benchmarks!! BLESS YOU.

[@N34R4T0M4T]

So happy you made this and I saw the nano texture I thought it would not be a big deal but really seems to help a lot!

[@coreyhoward2673]

Dave once again proving why he is the best tech reviewer on KZbin. No nonsense, straight to the point.

[@2tangz]

I haven’t been in the market for anything Dave reviews for a long time but I still watch. His videos allow me to keep up with current tech without wasting time on BS info.

[@pouyamahmoudi]

While Mrwhosetgeboss is doing clickbaits, D2D is the most efficient he's ever been. No ads or begging, just pure info.

[@lore00star]

2:00 did i hear a dave screaming? lol

[@parthpatwari3174]

*moaning

[@SirusStarTV]

What is that 😆

[@SilverHand619]

glitch in the matrix :D

[@joseaguirre744]

freaky ah

[@anton9410]

the background hues in your studio are actually very pleasing to the eye!

[@yeknommonkey]

A mastercalss in presentation. You're like the '1 man band' of youtube presenting, lots of cams and seemingly 1 take - don't care if its not, but the way you make them it seems like it is and it's as Impressive as the insight.

[@DavidStruveDesigns]

The way the nanotexture changes the overhead light from white to that pinkish-red is a bit worrisome though, since that suggests if it's doing that to reflections then it's also adding that coloured tint to the screen output as well.

[@zxlouder]

its compensated by color grading of that screen, no worries

[@ZoneTan10]

For people who need accurate color grading, I figured this would be an issue?

[@memerofblaviken6326]

Just got the m3 pro macbook on Apple refurbished and, upgrading from the 2017 macbook, I am absolutely blown away by the power of this machine! I honestly can’t see myself needing any other laptop as long as this gets updates.

[@CyberTweaker]

Exactly why i went with the m4 pro macbook pro. Cheaper and as fast as the m3 max with the all the benefits of the new model.

[@kageofkonoha]

Nice short review. Two things. 1 the nano texture is a pain to clean without the supplied cloth. 2 is the Max chip in the 14" body still being thermal throtlled and making the fans get annoyingly loud? I am hoping the binned max isnt but waiting for reviews.

[@kageofkonoha]

@@user-jr7bb6g9ev M3 max in the 14" chassis most defiantly throttled. I have hands on with Eight 14" M3 max laptops.

[@kageofkonoha]

@@user-jr7bb6g9ev The M3 Max in the 14" chassis most defiantly throttled under load once cooling system was heat soaked. I tested eight 14 m3 max macbook pros at work.

[@Div033]

@@user-jr7bb6g9ev M3 Max absolutely throttled, especially in heavy 3d workloads. At least in the 14".

[@Div033]

@@user-jr7bb6g9ev Source is me - I had one. Returned it for an M3 Pro after I observed the fan curve and throttling behavior when working in UE5. Fan noise and performance starts out good, but once it hits 100C it starts to throttle, performance drops by ~50% (Edit: I can't remember exactly... might've been more like 20-30% drop - 50% might've been the diff between pro and max), and the fans spin up mad. Once it gets down to 70-80C the fan speed drops, it restores performance, and starts to heat up again. It continues like this cyclically.

[@Div033]

@@user-jr7bb6g9ev I think that behavior really is just limited to consistently beefy GPU workloads like that. If you’re not taxing the GPU constantly then I think it’s not as big of a deal…. Even like during renders or while compiling. Those actions have a clear start and endpoint, so it’s not so bad to just deal with it for some time. When you’re in an app for potentially multiple hours and you’re experiencing the behavior I described, though, it gets annoying quickly.

[@hvglaser]

00:30 Dave, consider giving the M4 a special outline or a more noticable color value, so that it's easier to glance which chips are the new ones and which are the old ones, in the performance benchmark. Also consider ordering it so that the chips are listed in order of release, or something. It's confusing that the M4's are in the middle.

[@kleinsen]

Dave saying that old macbook pros with m1, m2, m3 do not need an upgrade is all I need to live by

[@Kirkster131]

Glad you showed the matt and regular screens active as well. That was a real big impact on the M4 IPad Pro, and I did not go matt because of it.

[@zaidhakim]

Dave always delivers. Straight to the point.

[@ibgtech]

🎉🎉🎉 I just love the minimalist approach of your videos

[@GreenTreeSketch]

Wow! Two reviews in under an hour, great job!

[@Laconic_]

Not an Apple fan, but this is the first device of theirs I've actually considered purchasing.

[@MaxJones123]

You will love it. Iam still running my M1 for work. And it’s great.

[@_Fl4K]

Consider what happens if you need to replace the ram or ssd first lol

[@Samuel-hj9ty]

@@_Fl4K I grew up on windows and not once did I upgrade my ram or ssd. Upgrading your computer is the way to go for most people who need RAM and if you need storage, consider an external drive. It’s more economical anyway

[@_Fl4K]

@ not talking about upgrading I’m talking about fixing, all the manufacturers for these chips stand behind them lasting for only about 3-4 years.. sure most last longer, but they often dont

[@Samuel-hj9ty]

@@_Fl4K oh, repairability is a whole different issue. I think it’s hit or miss depending on the brand. Apple, Razer, and many others are notorious for being difficult to repair. Luckily, I’ve found my Apple devices to be very reliable. Hopefully they continue to hold up in the future!

[@arvinp5092]

The quality on your videos are amazing, stunning really. It totally distracted me from your content lol. Bravo.

[@spikeimperial]

Those graphs are insanely clean🎉

[@omgitsajedi]

Great video! Just bought mine after watching your review! Where did you find the wallpaper in your thumbnail? I need it! LOL

[@sohamdutta2446]

A literally perfect review

[@Debangshuification]

This is the only genuine tech reviewer left. All others have given into greed

[@PangratiosCosma]

Can I please get a link to your wallpaper (0:11)? It doesn't seem to be one of the stock ones.

[@CameronWinters]

Seconded

[@SimoBenziane]

These requests made MKBHD make a app 😂😂😂

[@mohsinofficial]

I'm so excited for the Macbook 16 inch M4 Pro, can't wait to receive it.

[@YusufOj300]

The information you always give so satisfying

[@thesunnysarraf]

Been waiting for this!!!!

[@imkpreet]

Best upgrade after m1 air Planning to buy it soon

[@MINUTESOFFIRE]

Not the first time they have matte display on a macbook tho. They had matte display option for 17 inch macbook bro around 13 years ago

[@dingomatic]

We're coming full circle

[@MINUTESOFFIRE]

@@dingomaticjust one more inch…. That’s what she said!

[@lumilikha]

Cool split second intro! Reminds me of the old Dave2D with the laptop reviews and fancy animations! :)

[@MattReportPodcast]

Six minutes and one second is truly all one needs for this. 👏

[@jose510]

Glad I waited out, I just got my M4 couple days ago upgrading from a 2019 Refurbished MBP lol and WOW what a huge difference. I got the base M4 with 16GB RAM+1GB SSD since I don't do any video editing (only photography) or anything else that would require the pro or max. Night and day!

[@darthatari]

Thank you so much for that breakdown!

[@neeleshvashist]

Hey Dave! Your videos are great! 👏 I’m considering getting a MacBook Pro but not sure which model would be best for my needs. I’m a data science and machine learning student, so I’ll mostly use it for coding, data analysis, and some AI projects. Since I’m still in learning mode and not yet working professionally, I’m unsure if I need the latest high-end model. Any recommendations on which model or specs would best fit my use case? Thanks in advance!

[@mn3ql]

I clicked on this video thinking it was about the M4 MacBook Pro, not the M4 Max MacBook Pro. Though some of the video contained information relevant to all 3 chips, this video's content was still heavy on M4 Max. Just a suggestion for future videos to make sure the title reflects the video contents :) otherwise, great video as always!

[@13thzephyr]

I got a M2 Max 14" about a year ago which I got from marketplace for $2K, it's solid and will last me for the next 3-4 years or more with the work that I do.

[@Legend_Face]

Ordered an M4 Space Black and I think that colour is waaaaaay nicer than space grey

[@oraoraoraoraora2709]

You deserve way more subs.

[@DaxXx988]

We need a review of that Gshock, Dave :)

[@jothamdaledejesus2708]

I just bought a new m4 mac book pro with the nano texture display. The main reason why I bought the laptop is because my current Microsoft surface 4 laptop is dying. In the middle of class it just randomly black screened and wouldn't turn on till after class had finished. So it's a massive upgrade. Also got the nano texture display because I tend to study while commuting to uni, and I've gotten used to the non-glossy look on my desktop set up at home and much prefer the fact that it doesn't reflect anything and diffuses any sort of light hitting the screen as it causes me to strain less whilst studying or writing up essays. Tbh, I almost bought a MacBook M3 Pro this year and am glad I waited for the m4 to come out at it's practically the perfect laptop for me in terms of battery life, price to performance (even with my student discount it's expensive, but for me it's a worth while investment for the rest of my uni degree), some photo editing, and so forth. Mind you, I only got the base model M4 as it's all I need. I'm not coding, or running intensive programs on a regular basis. Just need top read cases, write up case notes, class notes, essays, the odd bit of photo editing, etc.

[@98-carlmarkmarak22]

the fact that you can play games at max setting without plugging into wall at full fps for long time is what makes m series chips very very good

[@staskozak8118]

you cant? Even example looks like around 30fps

[@98-carlmarkmarak22]

@ m1 can run re4 at 30 fps

[@SPISheste]

Still rock my MacBook Pro M1 13”, haven’t yet reached my productivity ceiling

[@adnanerochdi6982]

Hey Dave, do you remember the GS63VR days? I subbed then because I loved it, and still do!

[@in_significant]

M1 Max here... that's for the review. I'll keep waiting. :)

I think it’s needed to say that brighter display is only available on M4 Pro and M4 Max. Regular M4 can’t still hit 1000 nits - at least without using 3rd party tools

[@singhmp]

Actually the apple website states m4 macbook pro has 1000 nits brightness on SDR as well

[@rayn1545]

All the m4s have 1000 nits for sdr. Your thinking of the m3/m2/m1s

[@nickethan7547]

Thanks for the review. You helped me make a decision.

[@larrydiaz7156]

It'd have been nice to see those workflows in which the M4 Max outperforms the M2 Ultra, because your graphs state otherwise. Other than that, nicely done as usual, Dave!

[@onbquo]

Really nice nano texture display comparison. Thank you

[@hajjex_9086]

Amazing and on point. Would have preferred more insight on the graphics side of stuff. Especially the "gaming" promises. But fair enough. A great review

[@NjeleMolStudios]

Before the M1 pro & Max users upgrade we are waiting for the following upgrades on the Macbook pro > Oled screen, 4k front camera with ,FaceID, upgraded speakers and maintains the same body size and shape and another enhanced cooling system as their Chip advances.

[@DavidHarper-oq3fu]

Not that you care, I subbed. Fantastic no bullshit video.

[@milo.mayyalou]

Thank you for having the MacBook for real! I was sick of false clickbaits!

[@shouldbewritig]

I have the M1 Max that’s almost all maxed out MacBook Pro but that nano texture is *tempting*

[@covfefe69]

The form factor looks bigger than the 2015 i've been loving for 9 years. I'm ready to upgrade, maybe I need to wait for an M4 air, though I wish I learned more about the actual architecture of the machine.

[@Pokemonlyfan]

Looking forward to the nano texture and brighter display. :) awesome review

[@TomScryleus]

nice review, but I wish you showed some Final cut pro export comparisions. I don't trust those benchmark tests.

[@IAmSonnemm]

You talked about music producer, you deserve a suscribe & follow!

[@sameeramadushanka7765]

Only KZbinr reviews I trust.

[@AbdulHakeem-gu4qb]

0:14 Apple actually shipped a matte displays on their unibody 15" MacBook pros! they're even higher res than the stock display option (1440x900 on glossy, 1680x1050 on the matte display)

[@nithinreddy-d3y]

hey @Dave2D!! Totally Off topic, Where did you get that T-shirt? looks so nice and minimalistic. Thanks

[@Zomboy4313]

3:03 the reason it looks better on the MacBook Pros is that they use quantum dots this year which should counteract the effect of the nano-texture

[@PatrickQT]

Really good video. Well done.

[@seanvideoediting]

Really tempted to upgrade, but will wait for M5 pro OLED 😊

[@matthewfraney9108]

Would love an OLED MacBook… you really think m5 will be it??

[@seanvideoediting]

@matthewfraney9108 Not sure tbh.

[@Carmerafe]

Thanks Dave!

[@kf4294]

0:14 No, it’s not the first time they have it on their laptops. Their PowerBooks and non-unibody MacBook Pros were always matte textured displays.

[@gasanweb]

Apple: Our New Nano Texture (no reflection) Thinkpad user: That's called matte display 😁😂

[@yassinesafraoui]

Can you talk more about comparisons between the new M4 and the M2 pro or even M1 max as since they're priced similarly, do you think it's worth it? I think that's more interesting than comparing the more powerful ones, 99% of people won't really need that extra performance bump despite being significative because older models are already plenty powerful, and if they do I suppose they probably don't bother spending more, not the same story for 1500$ devices

[@realbosstakea]

dude my m2 pro has better specs than m3 or m4 swear

[@yassinesafraoui]

@realbosstakea I think you're talking about ram and storage, but still the cpu performance of m3/m4 is obviously better, question is how much better and is it worth it

[@realbosstakea]

@@yassinesafraoui nope my m2 pro out performs on cpu and gpu.

[@yassinesafraoui]

@@realbosstakea I see, that's great to hear thanks!

[@realbosstakea]

@@yassinesafraoui seriously check it out to compare, my exact model is A2780

[@Tak0Meter]

you should add lowest brightness review for night time scenarios

[@detailsmove]

hey Dave, does the nano-texture on the the M4 Macbook affect clarity? I remember that was a complaint on previous nano-texture applications

[@DanushShekar]

Dave talks about anti-glare in the new macs but didn't know the old ones are anti-watch (3:20)!!

[@n00bma5ter69]

That Nano Texture is wow

[@markaceto]

DP 2.1 before NVIDIA??? This is huge, and I’m discovering it here first!

[@JustineCooksVegan]

Hi new subscriber here! Thanks for this review! I am between an 14 inch M4 pro chip with 14/20, 48 ram 2 tb.. OR an M4 MAX chip with 14/32, 36 ram and 2 tb for video editing. I recently bought and returned the M3 max on a 14 inch because it was starting to get hot already… I’m wondering if the M4 chips have the same heating issues and if getting an M4 pro chip with more ram or a MAX chip with extra memory bandwidth & GPU is better when it comes to editing? Thank you!! ☺️🙏🏼

[@jjhmlstx]

Its usually good to invest in the best hardware you can when it comes to editing videos. If this laptop works out for you it’ll last you a solid four years and most likely a few more years after that.

[@ericB3444]

Between the M2 MacBook Air and this is the m2 enough for just stock trading alone?I use IPad for all else. That sucker is only 699 at costco right now in a very nice blue.

[@andrepiper]

Looking at the m4 pro now and I can't shake the cost of these laptops, it's outrageous.

[@charivnick]

thanks for the video, very interesting!

[@mindwipe0074]

The M1 is so good that it reminds me of the GTX1080Ti. I have no good reason to upgrade. It checks all my boxes for productivity on the go.

[@MrMe69420]

MY M1 Max is still smoking fast. Looking forward to M6 or M7 to see what we get!

[@realbosstakea]

facts im waiting till m8 or higher tbh my m2 outclass the m3 and m4

[@AhmedSh-nc6lj]

•M4 --- Almost as powerful as an M3 Pro/M2 Pro •M4 Pro --- M* Max level •M4 Max --- M* Ultra level • They all outperform any processor currently available in Single-Core.

[@BizzleByron]

OLED would have been nice

[@Metamine0]

Rumors point to 2026-2027 for that

[@ViralEnter10ment]

@@Metamine0 we'll get macbook killer x elite fully working by then lol with 4K 120Hz OLED and better battery

[@thescentsofme]

only if it comes without OLED PWM flicker. which is a huge issue for many people on the new iPad Pros.

[@ViralEnter10ment]

@thescentsofme idk what that is, im using vivobook pro 14 Oled 3K 90Hz 10bit for almost 2.5 yrs and never had a bit of a problem. Even though charts on screen all the time. Either apple using cheap displays or their dual OLED tech fckd up

[@Metamine0]

@@ViralEnter10ment nah, pwm is just an issue due to the nature of OLEDs. Iirc, everyone technically sees it, but about 5-10% of the population is actually extra sensitive to it to the point that that they're unable to use OLEDs that have too low of a PWM DC dimming rate. You need that rate to be much higher than the 480 Hz Apple currently is using (the screen is still 120 Hz, but the rate at which the pixels themselves are refreshing is much higher to try to mitigate PWM flicker).

[@anthomatic42]

How's the ghosting? Been one of the biggest issues imo.

[@momenmohammed3641]

damn your videos are visually appealing

[@user-hl9jq8iz4i]

Never had any mac looking forward for MacBook Pro

[@hellohogo]

nice, so definitely keep the M1 Max then.

[@roychang723]

Hi Dave, will you do a review on the latest 2024 Asus ProArt 16?

[@arnaudlabonne265]

Do what you have done with the mini test. Connect your cameras to see if you can manage it with the laptop

[@gmosworld]

Such a great review. Great laptops through and through. If you got M1, probably best to hold out until you really have to upgrade. M-Series is just too good.