MA. v Karen Read Trial Day 18 - Afternoon Session

[@EverLearningDragon]

“What, if any, degree do you have?” “None. I’m a timelord and The Doctor is just my title.” Like wtf do you think he’s going to answer?

[@uwsupergirl]

🤣🤣🤣

[@shaywise]

This was the most baffling question that Lally asked today. Like ?????????

[@lawstsoul]

🤣🤣🤣❤️

[@Raymail-tj4cf]

The Doctor does have a Degree. Thank you very much.

[@Princelover-ip4gn]

His questions are starting to sound like Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man. What if any sort of training have you received? His awkward intonation is what makes his own witnesses say “I’m sorry what was the question?” (Please 💜I mean zero disrespect towards anyone 💜, and I am referring to a character an actor portrayed in a movie 💜) All love towards everyone 💜✌🏼✌🏼

[@11leah22]

Thank you for giving the judge the truth. She was sooo rude. She didn’t handle that situation with kindness. This poor pathologist was trying his best.

[@theresedydo1095]

That judge making them feel badly about the volume of their voices is ridiculous. Update your sound system ma’am

[@joshn1678]

Yeah this is super weird to watch, she's said it like 50 times now, it's like mam, this is your court room, noone has anywhere to sit and your sound system blows, maybe do yourself a favor and put a new sound system in.

[@lyndachele]

The courthouse is at least 100 yrs old. Build a new one and turn this one into a museum and on the Historic Registration! Duh!

[@smurfmonster]

Continuing with this case is a waste of taxpayers money, the possibility of cross contamination of evidence and the methods used to investigate the case alone means there’s absolutely no possibility of Karen Reid being found guilty. It’s impossible for anyone to be “beyond reasonable doubt” about anything that’s been given in evidence thanks to the investigator’s ineptitude and for that reason the officers involved should be fired and lose their pensions. The result of the FBI enquiry will be VERY interesting!

[@silikon2]

My worry is Lally won't call Proctor and defense's typically pro forma motion to dismiss will be granted and we never get to see his 20 hour cross.

[@smurfmonster]

@@silikon2 yes that would be a travesty 🤞🏻 it doesn’t happen! The quality of Lally’s questions show he knows he’s flogging a dead horse, i honestly think he’s just doing what he can to pass the time by this point.

[@silikon2]

@@smurfmonsterYep, though as I suggested in another thread, Lally (in theory at least) could be prolonging the case to eventually cause a mistrial due to juror attrition. That may sound ridiculous but so much of the case has been ridiculous I wouldn't be shocked.

[@smurfmonster]

@@silikon2 I’m with you on that one, at this point NOTHING would shock me! 😂

[@aimeemorgado8715]

The hubris with which this was handled by law enforcement and prosecution is breathtaking

[@HeidiDalton-lx8ei]

MAM….please don’t threaten the witness with wrath of courtroom attendees…. Btw this witness is LEGiT!😅

[@tashiaredd3421]

@@HeidiDalton-lx8eihuh? When did the OP threaten a witness?

[@bettywillbrowse]

​@@tashiaredd3421 huh? It's a joke dear. 😅

[@HeidiDalton-lx8ei]

Just loosely quoting the very funny style of our esteemed host Emily, as Lally is in need of “refinement”, & the judge is sometimes….ah….rough around the edges imho. No offense intended. Laughter keeps me awake! 👌

[@andreacollins3204]

Hi everyone. So I’ve decided to rehome my husband, my vacuum cleaner, my 3 sons and the peri menopause! Any takers? Oh and my ASD also 😂😂🥴

[@andreacollins3204]

Butt dial, butt swipe, 😂

[@blastypowpow]

I’d like to rehome all those things minus a husband and kids. I’ve never been married. I _will,_ however, rehome my significant other, my vacuum cleaner, perimenopause, and my ASD/ADHD. I haven’t had any takers yet. Can’t possibly determine why. Heh. 😏 Edited for punctuation

[@06Joybells]

Hilarious !!!!

[@andreacollins3204]

@@blastypowpowok so I will offer you the hubby and kids. They are house trained and in their 20s so can at least butter toast😂, also I’m looking to rehome my ptsd and my narc mother so fingers crossed for both of us! 😂🤦‍♀️ love from Ireland 🇮🇪

[@shkrjam84]

I feel you, friend! I need to rehome my perimenopause, ADHD, and the resulting insanity of insomnia I’m dealing with right now 🙋🏼‍♀️ At the end of the evening, I’m tired but wired. I couldn’t fall asleep until 1am this morning, and for some reason, woke up after an hour or two and tossed and turned for 2 more hours, unable to fall back asleep because my brain went into overdrive ruminating about events at work. So I said fck this and turned on the stream where I left off and focusing on Lally and his direct examination shut the rest of the brain down and made me drowsy enough to finally fall back asleep again, no lie! I still dozed in and out for a bit, but it worked. I don’t have to be at work until 10:30am thank goodness. It doesn’t help that when I get sleep deprived too many days in a row, it flares my fibromyalgia pain, too 🥴

[@nikkyleigh2014]

I love how they called the superintendent of public works to testify about the snow plows that night....and then didn't call the plow driver assigned to Fairview 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Princelover-ip4gn]

They also showed a video that would have captured KRs SUV crossing through the intersection on the night in question- IF that video had been preserved. Seriously? Don’t say “yeah we could have seen the car going to and leaving 34 FV” BUT we did NOT preserve that footage from the night or the morning he was found?🐐🐐🐐🐐

[@angelsofblood9879]

​@@Princelover-ip4gn, if the investigating officer had done their job.

[@julialeith2081]

So it is weird in Massachusetts anyone with a plow on there truck can sign up to plow so that may be why!

[@shannonminnig4674]

So he was hit hard enough to throw off his shoe and bust a tail light, but somehow got no bruises or broken bones? That makes no sense 🤦‍♀️

[@sambuckel3869]

Does a body bruise after death though? And we don't know that no bones were broken, yet, because we don't know if any x-rays etc were taken

[@milyball]

I managed an autobody shop for 10 yrs- wrote estimates on thousands of animal collisions. I've never seen just a tail light taken out that resulted in death. Even a turkey does more damage to the vehicle. Also, id expect to see damage to the body at the point where the tail light connected. Also, also, I think she COULDN'T have been reversing fast enough to knock him down while on ice and while turning, anyway. Even if the vehicle does knock him down, he's a strapping, fit, 30s young man. I don't see how that sort of accident would cause his death. None of the vehicle part makes sense to me tho. Maybe it will when I catch up.

[@Just-in-Space]

@@sambuckel3869 he is a unique case because of the hypothermia. But people have testified to his hematoma/ eye wounds puffing up from when he was first found to the time they saw him in hospital. The bruising on the other hand, I don’t think that they could say clearly because of the blood pooling that happened (as he was warmed up his blood sank) but otherwise. Yes I do believe they could develop especially with medical intervention like that.

[@SamanthaSchaffer]

I love chat constantly being like "speed it up pls" when it's already sped up. That's how you end up joining the 2x replay crew. Gotta go fast ⏩

[@louhortonsculpture]

In real time we’re on day 24 of the trial and I’m trying to catch up! 😂

[@magicalmary2706]

I felt so bad for Dr. Faller! Some people are unable to raise their voice and Bev kept yelling at him.

[@beepboop8374]

I feel horrible for him. I think maybe it was his gentle tone more than the volume, he is very much a lab guy. He’s not a speech giver. He’s a scientist.

[@mairabee4379]

Seriously! She’s so freaking rude to him. I feel so bad 😢

[@KJ12428]

I’m a nurse who works in Cardiology. The Ayyy…systole cracks me up every time. 😂

[@beepboop8374]

Same. Makes me think of all of the fun nicknames patients have given their heart meds. Lol

[@melsafken764]

So happy EDB filled in the missing testimonies. Am watching in replay. 😁 Thanks Em

[@shantichristian7600]

The best comment I heard is from Brian Barberria on The Young Jurks panel. He said "It will be the 1st time, a jury will come back with a WTF verdict". So far it's been a WTF trial.

[@pinkymingo7]

Replay crew today 💜 I also miss having Rob and Runkle jump on!! The three of you together are hilarious!!!

[@randamgrrl]

This case is bringing the trolls out. A friendly reminder, don't feed or entertain them.

[@Princelover-ip4gn]

Someone told me that I lived in KRs head- because I pointed out that their KZbin account had only existed for 2 weeks 😂🤷🏻‍♀️💜✌🏼

[@doeb23]

I watched this testimony alone during the weekend cause I didn’t know Emily would cover it later. But I am watching it all over again now cause I need to get her commentary! ❤

[@06Joybells]

Agreed.

[@silikon2]

Lol, I did too! We love EDB so much we subject ourselves to this again ;)

[@vee_tinymoose]

Me too!

[@ginagruber1732]

Best thing I ever did was learn to project my voice without screaming. Learned in drama and then later as a summer camp counselor.

[@TaliaBSJ]

Lally and his a-sys-TOE-Lee, like it’s a pasta dish, makes my cold little nurse heart giggle. I’m glad though, after the Dr said it correctly 5x, that he picked it up right away.

[@beepboop8374]

Right away, 18 days later. 😂

[@FoxieFaye]

I love that you're like "Oh, when we get to the important questions, I'll slow things down" but the heckin' Prosecutor and his witnesses TALK SO SLOWLY ALREADY that having them sped up just sounds like normal human conversations...

[@ENess-jk2cq]

That poor court reporter has to listen so closely to what Lally says. He uses so many words to ask a simple question.

[@codiiiiiiiii]

Do you think she pronounces asystole the exact way he does or the proper way? 🤣

[@ENess-jk2cq]

I just wonder what her abbreviation is for 'What if Any'. I like to imagine it's creative to keep herself entertained

[@silikon2]

Actually I don't think it is that bad for the court reporter. It's just a job and they're transcribing but I don't think they're listening to what anybody is saying at all.

[@codiiiiiiiii]

@@ENess-jk2cq I hope it’s “Lallygag”

[@meadowkitty26]

The ER doctor's testimony is PAINFUL!!!!!

[@Ziggy784]

EDB thank you for being so open about your neurospicy symptoms because it’s very validating to hear you mention something I struggle with also but didn’t realize that’s why I do it. Like with your food habits that you mention at the end of this video. I do the same.

[@bshows89]

The confusing part of the ER physician testimony for me is that he says he wouldn't document injuries to the extremities unless they were pertinent to the resuscitation, but he noted the abrasions to the arms - certainly not pertinent to the resuscitation. This leads me to believe injuries below the neck were not present except for the forearm abrasions. I've worked in ERs, and it's true that if the resuscitation was not successful, imaging would not be performed, but the condition of the body, including the lower limbs, would almost certainly be noted.

[@Princelover-ip4gn]

His jeans had been cut off lengthwise in the ambulance. There were no observed injuries or bruises except for his head and face and right arm.

[@vee_tinymoose]

That’s what got me confused. And surely there are car accident injuries that *would* be pertinent to resus, or at least observable. Say, bruising or damage to his chest or abdomen?

[@silikon2]

The retrograde BAC is worthless. How would the police know last drink? With Solo cups, leaf blowers etc and I'm supposed to believe they got *that* right? Definitely liked a couple of these witnesses, particularly Roberts. So refreshing to see someone who clearly has no dog in the hunt. Q: If the assumptions you were given were wrong, does that invalidate the extrapolation? A: Yep

[@peapotfairy]

I would give my right arm to watch the rest of this trial without hearing Lolly clear his throat.

[@jodipaul8672]

Replay crew! Watched live last week but of course I watched again to get EDB's commentary! 💜

[@mandyschaan8776]

As a person with a degree in biochemistry and who works in a pahtology lab this may be one of the most interesting days of testimony for me

[@micmaymar]

Listening to your Remarkable2 journey is giving me life. I got mine in law school and it was a GAMECHANGER as a fellow ADHDer

[@LawyER_Nurse1989]

@TheEmilyDBaker - I'm not sure of your BAC draws in the US, but here in Australian ERs, we have Blood Alcohol kits with THREE glass tubes and triple carbon forms. Two tubes are placed with the first and 2nd page of the completed papers, however, the 3rd tube is given straight away to the patient it was drawn from and we tell them to keep it for at least six months to have it privately tested if they want to dispute the official results. We have a metal closed box that is attached to the wall with a lock that the official police officer attached to the unit in charge of driving around to all ERs to collect the closed units and deliver them to the official pathology unit. So no individual police officer or other staff can access the large metal containers once the two tubes are placed with the paperwork, which also then has a log book that we complete the specimen and paperwork numbers for each patient.

[@LysiaVee]

This is actually a great idea! We can get a second opinion on dr.s.

[@Stoshnut]

I work at a Canton Public Library so this was stressful to listen to xD. Our cameras are also motion but we save our video for 3 months. All librarians and security and managers have access to our cameras. We are all SOOOOO fucking nosey I would have been scrubbing that footage so fast. We can't turn anything over without a request from the police but you bet your ass we would have had all that footage saved and time stamped after all of us looked it over and talked about it. We use our internal cameras for theft, accidents and other events (including the Great Pasta Disaster of Staff Day 2023 that our IT head edited together with music and everything)

[@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend]

So the plasma test is specifically noted to NOT be suited as legal evidence due to its lack of precision, but it's the foundation for one of the charges in this case? Am I understanding that correctly?

[@LovetheLed]

Inadmissible if unreliable in Texas! The standard for admissible evidence must not be a thing in MA!?!

[@LysiaVee]

Not in Canton, for sure!​@@LovetheLed

[@Maddieelovesu]

Glad we’re starting to get into some more professionals. It was getting rough back there😭

[@LovetheLed]

Don’t be too excited🙉! The evidence is unreliable and handled in a way that makes it inadmissible in most courts! 🙉🤷🏻‍♀️🙈🐐🐐

[@tilde4350]

All the talk of medical conditions interacting with test Brings me back to me getting a false positive for syphilis on a std screening. One of my medications could apparently cause it. But not a phone call I wish on anyone! I told the clinic about the medication, but they still did not catch it being a false positive until I went back for more tests🙃

[@randamgrrl]

I feel like Ms. Little did a good job.

[@Stoshnut]

She is a fantastic match for experts. It's delightful to watch.

[@JD-vh1qd]

I am a nurse . Can’t really see why the jury needs to hear all this information . Everything is computerized and everything is documented. None of this tells us anything about who killed O’keefe. Karen could have continued drinking in the morning after she dropped off her boyfriend. She could have drank the next day. When she found out her boyfriend was dead.

[@Princelover-ip4gn]

In Texas- if it is not properly documented, colllected or preserved then it is inadmissible. And we all ask ourselves “How did we get here?”Letting the Days Go By, pushing me under 💜 The Talking Heads every day!🙉🙉🙉💜Lally should ask for a directed verdict at this point!

[@alanshapiro8177]

I’m of the opinion that the entirety of each resident/visitor in that house was over the limit w/ a BAC of .08. Anyone that drove off, could have hit John

[@okay_but_still]

I’ve started asking people in my personal life “what if any” Lally has infiltrated my brain

[@michellev7113]

I'm so afraid that I might say "what if any" at work. 😂 I think he's infiltrating my brain too.

[@NoxCattus]

When Runkle covered this live, it was so painful it even made my ADHD meds give up in defeat. Gonna give this another go and see if I can follow any of it at Emily speed 😂

[@lyndachele]

Medical and financial people speak quietly because info is private!

[@shelbyparkinson1785]

I’m using a bair (bear) hugger right now in hospital!!! I want one at home!!

[@CultyClips911]

To the person who asked about Leah Remeni's lawsuit against Scientology- Tony Ortega is following it closely and usually has the latest info on his Substack. He's also following a few other cases against Scientology. He has a KZbin channel too and has weekly show on someone else's channel... I'll find some links (if allowed here) and put in comments-

[@vang.609]

I hope you're able to put links. Cause I would love to follow that too

[@CultyClips911]

@@vang.609 I put three links but it looks like only two went through. Can you see them? Click to see all messages.

[@J-Bird88]

It's called underground bunker Tony Ortega I believe

[@chanley5541]

I’m dying at the “no fan for you” segment🤣🥵

[@Alisha_79]

Bear hugger is used to warm you up after bypass surgery. Saw that in the 90's when my great uncle had quadruple bypass.

[@hurricanemala8186]

Now we have smart people on the stand, and the questioning is so ridiculous that they can't understand them... Lally should be able to elevate the questions to match the witness.

[@Stoshnut]

I would be fascinated to see how judges and lawyers take notes.

[@lyndachele]

Section 12 in MA, 5150 IN CALI, Baker Act in FL. Psych involuntary commitment.

[@Jenneo7435]

Wow. This is lasting forever! I must be missing something good! EDB is always good 👍 💜

[@notme2day]

Arrrggghhhh ... My daughter is visiting from out of state... avoid the conflict, trust me... don't let your children grow up 🥰 I'm trying to explain this case case and my commitment to being a YT jurist.... all while listening on replay (instead of live) and making a complicated type meal. What I wouldn't do for my children could fit on the head of a pin... probably with angels dancing on it too. FYI- My daughter us vegan... just like me. She's also one of the nicest people I've ever met. I'm not biased... I just raised a great kid. Be kind to yourself, your pets and each other. 💖

[@thisisforonecomment]

You good?

[@joshn1678]

Did you have a stroke?

[@notme2day]

@@thisisforonecomment Just building my insanity case...shhh ... no self snitching. Hanging with grandma Rivers 🤣

[@aoky9179]

this comment feels out of place or did i miss something lol

[@cathynavin1967]

Q: Testimony from multiple people said Karen was drinking clear liquid with lime, not sure if it was vodka or water. Couldn't the bartenders confirm that she was drinking vodka at both bars since they were making the drinks?

[@foxymama9203]

They called the bartender and she didn’t know “what if anything” Karen specifically was drinking. However, according to the bar receipts, there were only 5 vodka drinks charged to their group and Matt McCabe testified to having 3-4 vodka and crystal light drinks. They never said what she was drinking (or if she was) at the first bar.

[@weighingfall7390]

Thank you Runkle as I watched live with him!!!! As a lover of the comments Emily makes I'm back, tell a friend... *singing >insert Eminem song

[@Princelover-ip4gn]

You think Lally’s palms are sweaty? Sweater smells like mom’s spaghetti?

[@weighingfall7390]

@@Princelover-ip4gn omfg yes you are killing me softly with this song!!!!

[@ashleymisko7857]

Replay crew: EDB and her exasperation with the stream. I felt that.

[@GenuineUntelligence]

I can't get over the idea that maybe something completely different happened to John. As in, the Albert's believe Karen did it, Karen believes the Albert's did it but it was either another party entirely or some sort of freak accident that was no one's fault.

[@rueruen]

But then why were the ring cameras deleted and they never thought about asking for the neighbors’ cameras? I’d agree completely, but that’s suspicious.

[@NottyAries]

For a moment I wondered if John was accidentally hit by the plow on Higgins vehicle. I guess they would cover it up because everyone was drunk??? Idk

[@vee_tinymoose]

@@rueruenit’s definitely what is missing that has me suspicious. Missing footage in at least two places, missing phones, dog, internet searches…

[@louhortonsculpture]

Kerry, the woman who drove Karen to the scene where John was found, and also saw the body after he was pronounced in the hospital, said he had one swollen eye at the scene and both eyes swollen by the time she viewed him in the hospital. I would think injuries for a vehicle or plow hitting him would be visible by then. But the 2 black eyes makes me think it was a fight. 😢 an accidental hit with a vehicle would be the least awful explanation. It is starting to look like he got beat up and left the house but everyone was too angry and selfish to make sure he got home safely. Worst case, he lost consciousness in the house and they moved him to the edge of the lawn and left him to pass away.

[@dee-deelove9310]

Love the pathology guys tie 😻

[@BeyondwithAmber]

I used to work in a cardiac practice and the mispronunciation of “angina” was one that used to send us into fits of giggles.

[@TheInsaneEraser]

If I have learned anything from doctors, mechanism of injury is VERY important, so the fact no one mentioned the possibility of being hit by a car, means they either willfully emitted it, which would be horrible, or they NEVER thought it was possible.

[@TheInsaneEraser]

Some people are just naturally soft spoken, I feel so bad for this poor pathologist.

[@TheInsaneEraser]

I would probably start crying, or at least be holding back an anxiety attack if someone told me that DX

[@LouisianaADRC]

I was waiting for them to mention autobrewers syndrome for possible reasons the BAC could be raised

[@deltawhiskey1998]

Re: juvenile DUI’s & Emily being astounded by teenagers making the choice to drink & drive when they aren’t supposed to be doing either. To be clear, I have lost friends to DUI’s & I also find it infuriating & heartbreaking when I hear about DUI-related accidents/injuries/deaths! That said, the least surprising type of DUI are those involving teenagers. Why? Bcuz the human brain doesn’t fully develop until approx age 25, and the last part of the brain of to develop is the frontal lobe - which includes the ability to process action/consequence & the ability to rationalize & use critical thinking skills vs reactionary behaviour during dynamic & high stress situations. It is far more likely that a teenager would end up making impulsive & risky choices, than it is for an adult 25 yo+. This is even more true of teenagers who have experienced trauma and/or do not have strong connections/attachments to supportive adults/guardians/family groups. These situations can also impact brain development, compounding risky choices and behaviour. Teenagers are NOT capable of processing a situation in the same way as an adult!! One way to counteract this is to periodically review hypothetical scenarios w/your teenager prior to potential opportunity’s for risky choices. That way the info is fresh in the kids mind. Make sure your kid knows that they can always call for a ride for them/friends no questions asked, provide a credit card/lyft account, talk about the other options to DUI/being a passenger, and about consequences that are close to home. Also, mitigate: make sure to check in w/parents at sleepovers; make sure kids know you will be awake at curfew or you will pick them up -so they know they will see you in person. Require shared social media passwords for them to have it, or report the account as underage. Etc.

[@CasacaraDFP]

Day 18 and I feel like we are FINALLY getting into the Prosecutions case!!😮‍💨

[@barbarafuhrman7395]

❤❤❤❤ all you do

[@savannahgary6351]

My opinion...Lally is dazzling with confusion v facts that prove the elements of the 3 charges KR is facing. Lally asks so many questions that are not clear, not necessary, and not helpful! As someone said in another comment section yesterday, they were at 1,046 doubts...I agree!

[@lauraw3338]

There is so much deception in this case. The doctor seems to try and cover his tracks but why? If I was Karen I’d move out of this town after the trial is over.

[@melsafken764]

Far, far away!

[@Princelover-ip4gn]

Exactly! Why so nervous Dr? Inadequate job on your part?🤷🏻‍♀️🐐🤷🏻‍♀️💜

[@Hopenothopeless]

Yeah that was super weird, I thought.

[@MC-cyh]

I loved everything about Nicholas Roberts! He came in kicking his ThermoFisher polo and was just pleasant. Clearly explained what he did, wasn't combative, and honestly the smartest person to testify who actuality has a personality! He'll go far at Thermo!

[@lyndachele]

Per a hospital CEO, due to reduced reimbursements, hospitals and private docs delegate as much work as possible. My internist makes what I call "cameo" appearances.

[@cparsonage9925]

Is this man a REAL Doctor?

[@peterpanish3534]

The IT Director... It's inconceivable to be that he didn't do a comparison of the MB/GB of data that was to be copied from the video recorder and verify that all was copied over. I have been doing that with 2 TBs worth of folders, files, images, videos, emails, vms these past 4-5 days now. You always verify at least that to ensure that everything that was in the request was captured. I also at least note in a notebook and also verify with a follow up email. Cannot believe that he didn't do that and has been in his position for 25 years. That absolutely is not best practice!!! Also as a fellow IT Director, I do not like him smirking on the witness stand.

[@Princelover-ip4gn]

Resting smirk face 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@mayaandlittlelou]

O’Keef walked into the wrong entrance of the Albert house with Karen’s leftover drink. The dog attacked him and he put up his right arm to protect himself. He started to choke the dog and was hit in the back of the head by one of the teen kids. They did not know O’Keef and had to protect their dog. The parents freaked out and threw his body on the lawn to frame Karen. Sad

[@NottyAries]

A very similar theory has rattled around in my brain.

[@laurencastillo3911]

That’s a great theory

[@michellev7113]

Yep, that's what I think happened too.

[@anuschkagroenewald8923]

But that theory doesn’t explain the two golfball eyes . Which is usually consistent with being in a fistfight. Waiting for coroner to explain.

[@LovetheLed]

Do we need details about snow plow routes? The insurance is required? 2:29:22 🐐🐐🐐🐐

[@spellingbee2000]

The judge threatening to turn off the AC is just awful! 😞

[@DanSlaughter85]

Hi CCTV operator here. The worst cameras are motion sensor activated they are at best 60 percent reliable. Especially if they are exterior cameras. Also depends on how long of a recording they trigger whether a minute, 30 seconds, or 5 plus minutes past the detected motion. CCTV is glitchy and not reliable it's better than nothing but still.

[@hazelangus]

I think the reason the ER doc says superficial abrasions to the arm - I'm speculating that superficial refers to a cut, injury or scratch that doesn't go through more than the lower layer of skin. So, not through the fatty tissue or muscle.

[@brattysarita5084]

OMG 🤦‍♀️ The doctor was being heard fine and believe me IF the juror couldn't hear certain words, He Wasn't missing ANYTHING Significantly Important! Lally is basically slinging anything and Everything that he thinks will stick! Sad really 😞 But the judge comes across as so Rude! 😠

[@melsafken764]

I felt that too... I felt yelled at.

[@Darawara]

WiFi is just playing with us. Really glad to get rewatch! Loved catching up as I was putting final touches on beginning 2024 Summer. Emily go get some of Nashville TNs yummy popsicles

[@guymitchell3842]

Just to let you know that I was offered a position in medical school after I had only 90 hours of college however I did have several years of experience and teaching experience as a critical care paramedic and had written papers on emergency care my thesis ( laughs) was in emergency care for head injuries and CVA ( strokes ) which is still referred to by medical school’s. I never did accept admission so I can only assume the letter for acceptance was proof.

[@ObliviousBenson]

UGH I JUST LOVE YOU SO MUCH can we get a 23 and me already because you feel like my long lost auntie lolol. Dr B bringing you coffee is peak bad a$$ behavior and I. AM. HERE. FOR. IT. (*Also I had Alanis's "Visiting hours are 9-5 and if I show up at half past six well I....I'm not the doctorrrrrr" in my head because of something you said in this video and it's led me on a jagged lil pill wormhole! THANKS FOR THAT EMILY.)

[@overworkedmum9990]

i've had a peek in to the future, my 17 year old speaks like the dr, soft tone and has so much info to get out he trails off at times so quiet I have to say speak up or look at me I can't hear you. I felt so bad for him when she switched the fans off.

[@bijougirl12]

We need a bing celebration!

[@molliwilson5639]

That all will be in the coroners report as to the autopsy findings

[@ERSwanger]

EDB! You want to know about sewers? My husband could have told you about how water systems work! He is a grade IV operator and the superintendent for the City of Dunlap's water system! (This is the red head with the nervous member, and my Legend of Dad husband, also the one with the Salty watermelon whiskey! Great to meet you and thank you again!

[@allieniner675]

The Judge makes it seem like a punishment when she has to tell them to speak up and turn off the fan- like, it’s not his fault!!!

[@jjoyce108]

In MA we can’t afford multiple swabs for dna testing to put someone away for life, I guess a $10 clip on microphone for the lawyers in the courtroom can’t fit in the budget also! I’m embarrassed by my state.

[@colleenhahn3070]

REPLAY CREW!

[@daneenwinget]

I work in a hospital lab and I've never heard my job described in a more boring manner 😭

[@MusikGeek90]

Do not understand why the ER doctor was callled instead of one of the nurses. Especially since a nurse wrote the report and everyone knows nurses run the hospital.

[@cosacita]

Came a bit late into the trial (about a week) and people were already complaining about the judge which I didn’t fully understand why. Now I do. I’m one of you now 😅 Poor guy

[@kgrach]

I always listen to EDB at 1.25. and I have no problem when she plays court at 1.25 . It sounds normal to me. I now might have the explanation as to why people have a hard time understanding me.

[@nitpickersheadliceremoval3805]

Neck X-rays are generally standard in an unknown reason of coming in with a head trauma. At least in our trauma clinics to my knowledge.

[@bshows89]

In my experience as an X-ray tech, they usually wait for cervical X-rays or CT until the patient has been resuscitated. If they weren't successful in the resuscitation, it doesn't surprise me that they didn't do any imaging. The medical examiner will often order X-rays for autopsy purposes when indicated, but the ER physician wouldn't be aware of that imaging.

[@JessCatlessi]

I found you through Natalie Lawyer Chick. I love that you found yourself here through her to 💜💜🐤🐤

[@claireandclaws]

WHY is this first witness so defensive against the defence??? Odd behaviour like this has been consistent throughout this trial and further helps the defences case. Back peddling, defensiveness, memory loss, cold, uncaring behaviour and distancing from the victim from so many witnesses, “professional” and personal. Shocking.

[@michellev7113]

I wonder if he knew John O'keefe? It seems like everyone knows everyone.

[@izzydoesit8663]

Emily, last witness only shared a link to the video for the state police, they then downloaded and possibly removed those minutes on their end! 😢

[@Noneyabidness007]

29:00 the only thing I remember from after my first C-section is the bear huggers! Lol

[@LovetheLed]

The same thing happened to me! I had to wait over 4 hours before I got to hold my son!💔

[@spellingbee2000]

Replay crew!!!

[@lseh]

Did they do a drug test to see if he was giving drugs knowingly or not knowingly?

[@smurfmonster]

I very much doubt it, they didn’t carry out DNA testing on the blood that was in the solo cups that was collected from the snow to confirm it was the victim’s blood, that’s absolute BASIC police work and they didn’t do it. Concern that it could be someone other than the victims blood perhaps…….???

[@waitaminute2015]

How is it an SUV hit Mr O'Keefe and no injuries below the head ? Wouldn't he at least have bruises in the abdomen somewhere? If the speed of the SUV was enough to throw a shoe off , that seems like a forceful impact, yet no bruises? Unless he's only 3-4 ft tall, no way did a car or SUV hit his head. What hit his head?

[@robinpalmer5380]

I wonder if he was bent over tying his shoe...

[@Noneyabidness007]

@@robinpalmer5380why wouldn’t he move when he saw her coming ?

[@Noneyabidness007]

@@robinpalmer5380how did she not hit Higgins jeep??

[@robinpalmer5380]

@@Noneyabidness007 maybe JO fell backwards onto the snowplow?

[@Noneyabidness007]

@@robinpalmer5380 honestly? Anything is possible with canton. Procter with his Mary poppins evidence purse & the portal that Colin & John & the jeep used. X-ray vision lally expected from the it guy with the disk hes never seen. Red solo cups? Anything truly is possible. Unless they show a video of Karen hitting John with her car I won’t believe she is guilty beyond reasonable doubt. He was a cop, a “brother in blue” if you will and this is the investigation he gets? Unreal

[@manderpandersalamander9977]

I want Nick’s life!! 😭😭😭

[@mrsseebeck2]

We had a judge who would take her staff out after court for drinks and then show up at the pd for breathalyzer tests

[@ScienceisRadAF]

2:08:00 have they studied the rate per hour while a person is sleeping (not eating; not eliminating)?

[@laurac86]

I thought I was late to the live just went back to rewatch the beginning and I only missed like 10 min!

[@courtney526]

My fiance went to mercyhurst!! I was so surprised to hear it mentioned.

[@ooshybermi8310]

❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

[@margotgriffin8997]

I watched this with Runkle

[@sharonjonsy9412]

If it's an accident it's automatically coroner case to rule out accident or injury by another. He should have had chest and neck X-Ray to rule out collapsed lung or hemothorax. Doesn't seem like much was done for him. Sad.