Mac Studio and Studio Display: a dream and a nightmare

Apple’s Mac Studio is heavy, gray, and full of ports. But the really exciting stuff is on the inside. Meet the M1 Ultra, Apple’s brand-new processor that combines two M1 Max chips into one monstrous CPU. We gave this device to professionals across The Verge’s creative team. Here’s what they had to say.
Apple Mac Studio review: www.theverge.com/e/22745856
Studio Display review: www.theverge.com/e/22745785
Quick correction! At 9:07 the current MacBook Pro and iPad Pro use a mini-LED display, not micro-LED. Thank you to DGB Antho for flagging 😀
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0:00 Intro
0:54 M1 Ultra
2:30 Mac Studio configuration
3:00 Mac Studio vs Mac Pro for video editing
3:50 Mac Studio for Video, Audio and Illustration
7:32 Studio Display review
11:15 Studio Display speaker comparison
11:54 Studio Display webcam
12:56 Apple’s response to poor Studio Display webcam quality
13:51 Mac Studio M1 Ultra benchmarks (Geekbench 5, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Cinebench R23, PugetBench)
16:45 Mac Studio display output
17:10 M1 Ultra vs M1 Max
18:25 Conclusion
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“What else can you glue two of together and double it’s performance?”

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all kinds of protection. okay sorry that was insensitive.

[@sunshinecycling]

@The Verge: Apple doesn't use "Micro LED" (9:07) on the MacBook Pro and iPad Pro. It uses Mini LED - a small but important distinction. "Words have meanings." - Nilay Patel (March 17, 2022)

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The Wii was 2 gamecube ducktaped together. Does that count ?

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chocolate bars?

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Depression and anxiety.

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“Words have meanings.” Dieter’s love of semantics has left it’s mark on the Verge!

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Came here to say this!

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Dieter and I realized we'd be friends within like 30 seconds of meeting each other because of things like this ;)

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[@DanteVertolli]

@@reckless1280 truly the greatest love story of our generation

[@N0N0111]

Apple: Edge of the inner edge is an edge, think differently.

[@jeremenichelli]

I usually don't comment videos, but I loved this type of review, really going for the target audience of the product, well scripted. Congrats to all the team involved in this, specially Monica who amazes me as a reviewer on every single piece. If the algorithm is telling you to do shorter videos instead of this, please ignore it!

[@bondhuis]

Have to agree, and I'm not even a Mac user. Yet.... I think the multiple viewpoints added a lot, and the benchmarks weren't dwelled upon. Great work Verge team!

[@Warrantti]

💯

[@Greatbubba747]

Could be worded better. They kept on saying “fusing two GPU’s together” rather than the whole SOC

[@ugabrew]

Yep, this was an A+ review. Thorough and honest.

[@martmeister]

Definitely one of the best reviews ever I would say. Great introduction to many of the key people at The Verge was a bonus. Team effort for sure.

[@ravonrogers2268]

This is why The Verge is the best. I like the multiple perspectives. Very comprehensive review. Nicely done.

[@martmeister]

I was very impressed with the thoroughness of this review. 10/10 for delivering an exceptional review covering all the bases and also considering so many workflows and people's opinions. And wow. That camera situation? The way it was presented with all those other Apple cameras was impressive. Not to mention the seamless audio comparison. Well done team.

[@caryrabbit]

You could say they covered all their bases, from edge to edge.

[@cutiepie120048]

@@caryrabbit 🤣🤣🤣

[@amanagarwal1939]

Thoroughness? You may be right with everything else except the GPU part. 1. It is proved that Geekbench Compute doesn’t ramp up apple silicon soon enough before it completes the benchmark. 2. Gaming is neither advertised nor considered by Apple for comparing it with a 3090 because they know very few, if any AAA games are optimised for Apple silicon and all of them including Tomb Raider are running through Rosetta. There were absolutely no real world professional use case comparison with a 3090.

[@kenthan9388]

I think the most impressive thing in this video is Alex drawing with a mouse (vs. a pen/tablet). 1) who does that? 2) how is he doing it so well?

[@thisguy2973]

Some people think pen tablets are hype and learned on mice instead. I think Wacom tablets are too expensive for what they do.

[@Harvester88]

He has mastered the mouse, wonder if he ever plays FPS games. He could probably frag out.

[@thisguy2973]

@@Harvester88 probably not on a Mac, unfortunately, but maybe that’s all about to change. I think it’s just a matter of practice on fine tuning the mouse. If he’s been using macs since OS9, it’s likely he uses a low DPI setting on the mouse. Back in the day, CRT iMacs used to come stock with really really low DPI settings out of the box. In my old digital and photo digital imaging classes, these were always set really low and it helps a lot.

[@allluckyseven]

You get used to that.

[@LexAstro]

@@Harvester88I do play a lot of fps games lmao can't believe all that time was actually productive in the end. incredible

[@TheVerge]

Quick correction! At 9:07 the current MacBook Pro and iPad Pro use a mini-LED display, not micro-LED. Thank you to DGB Antho for flagging 😀

[@allluckyseven]

Gotta pin this comment! Can two comments be pinned? If not, this one's more important than the other and should be the one at the top instead.

[@GustavoSena14]

Probably the best review The Verge ever done. Very in-depth analysis of every relevant part of the products. Congrats to the team!

[@sinlokemp]

True That

[@lucasguilhermea]

Sem dúvida. Não estava esperando esse nível de detalhes.

[@LexAstro]

yo! Alex from The Verge team here. I had a blast filming with Becca and the team, they're incredible and always knock it out of the park! Using the mac studio was also a dream. Feel free to hit me with any questions, I'll do my best to share what I can. Love ya! - Alex / The Verge

[@AlNemec]

Is there anything you wish was different about the Mac Studio or the Studio display? Follow up thought: I wish apple would have a Mac mini option with an m1 pro. Right now it feels like quite the gap in between those two lines. (Mac mini/Mac studio)

[@reopru]

Can you give us some feedback on the noise the studio generates under load? Can you tell when the fans ramp up? Also - do you think the intake being on the underside will cause issues in the long run as it inevitably gets filled with dust? Especially since there is no way to open the Studio and clean it properly.

[@LexAstro]

@@reopru We weren't in the quitest environment when I was using the studio so take with a grain of salt. I'd say it's fairly quiet, def wasn't noticeable with everything else going on but I didn't spend time with it in a personal office / bedroom situation. I'm not too sure about the vents, I'd say it's something to consider of course but I'm not usually worried about these things with computers (not the best, I know)

[@LexAstro]

@@AlNemec I'm surprised that Apple hasn't made these displays with a higher refresh rate. Seems pretty ridiculous to have such an expensive display that's only 60hz. It was a really clear display but personally I'd pick any number of other displays before buying from Apple.

[@reopru]

@@LexAstro cheers, thank you for sharing your impressions!

[@weljenks]

This is so much more professional and informative than most other reviews it’s ridiculous.

[@stephensiemonsma]

But they don't understand the benchmarks. It's a problem.

[@stephensiemonsma]

@@danispringer KZbin isn't letting me reply with a link (my comments with a simple Reddit comment link keep getting autodeleted), so I'm going to quote the Redditor MrTimscampi on this topic and then my own reply him. MrTimscampi: "Indeed, but The Verge's entire methodology is flawed here. They mention "real world" testing using Puget's benchmarking tools. Puget's own website mentions: "Adobe Photoshop version 20.x, 21.x, 22.x, 23.x. M1 Native version is not yet supported" for the Photoshop one. The Puget bench for Premiere is still fixing bugs on M1 as recently as the latest version, and the article doesn't even specify which version they used for the test. Since they're running other stuff in Rosetta 2 and not mentioning it, are they even running a native version of Premiere here? They don't mention fairly important information, like which Python and NumPy versions their NPBench is running on How is Geekbench configured? Which backend are they using for the compute tests? Why does the Boxx Apexx 4 not have CineBench scores? For the Tomb Raider part, they mention that "it does emphasize that if you’re running a computing load that relies primarily on a heavy-duty GPU, the Mac Studio is probably not the best choice". There is no mention of it running through Rosetta 2 or the DirectX to Metal translation layer the port uses, which would lead to worse performance overall. I get that there's no "perfect" benchmarking tool for this, but the entire way the review presents the benchmarks is misleading and lacks vital information to make sense of the numbers. And yes, it's partly Apple's fault for providing graphics that are misleading by omission. But you'd expect a tech-focused publication like The Verge to actually do their due diligence and properly run (and document) their benchmarks. You'd also expect all the other tech-focused publications to point out the flaws in methodology that are everywhere in that piece. I don't know, maybe watching too much Gamers Nexus influenced what I'm looking for in benchmarks, but this all feels really amateurish for somebody whose job revolves around benchmarking systems." My reply: "To add to your list, they didn't include the 4K Shadow of the Tomb Raider results for the RTX 3090 system, despite the fact that the 4K results would be the most GPU-bound and therefore the best way to compare the 3090 with the M1 Ultra's GPU performance with that particular benchmark. In addition, their scientific workload didn't emphasize multithreaded performance at all, and they seemed completely oblivious to the fact that all they had tested there was single-threaded performance."

[@theonlinething1039]

Nah it isn‘t they called it a giant gpu with double the cpu cores and things like this…

[@anzymecom]

There's no way that display should sell for $1599. If the 27" iMac were still around, it'd be about time for it to get HDR and high refresh rate at the same starting price.

[@Raja995mh33]

No High refresh is probably not Apples fault tho. 5K is literally almost TWICE the resolution of 4K. Not just a bit more. And since Apple wants stuff to be simple and use Thunderbolt for that - the currently can't do that because TB4 simply does not support 5K at 120Hz.

[@johnplante5602]

They’re selling a product that you can’t buy anywhere else so there’s that. What company sells a unique product for cheap? That’s basic marketing people.

[@KonohasYeIlowFlash]

Well, it’s meant to compete with the LG UltraFine 5K that retails for $1299. You pay a premium for the Thunderbolt connectivity. Also, it has a great webcam built-in. This is also not meant for the average consumer. Someone who has a lot of money and wants the Apple-only aesthetic will love this monitor.

[@KonohasYeIlowFlash]

It also has great built-in speakers.

[@DustinHallXVX]

Idk if I'm off base, but it seems like the new Alienware 34" QD-OLED is only $1,300. Why would anyone choose Apple?! QD OLED is a new technology 3 generations beyond the new apple display (LCD > Dimming zones > OLED > QD OLED). I'm perplexed.

[@sebastianguerraty6413]

The reason you got almost identical results on the scientific test is python, unless explicitly coded otherwise, will only use 1 thread. So essentially what you tested is the new chip in single core performance for a real world application. It's good to know the single core performance is better on the new chip (I suspect cooling has a lot to do with that result), but ideally you could complement it with a multicore workload for future reviews, you can do that using Numba if you chose to run python or some other language that is more oftenly used for multicore workloads (Such as Java or C++) :) PS: I'd be happy to share a basic Numba script you could try out :D

[@MichaelGGarry]

Exactly, without filling the chips with threads there is no point.

[@SamEmilio2]

The Verge isn't really interested in doing their reviews properly or finding out WHY there's a problem in cases like this.

[@reckless1280]

Hi! We ran the npbench Python test, which supports Numba. (Indeed, we all had to install Numba on various machines.) We'll keep poking at it, there's always a chance we did something wrong.

[@Tegeril]

@@reckless1280 A lot of the people who are in that "really want a 5k display for its resolution @2x" are iOS/macOS engineers. Would love to see input from an indie dev and project compilation times of Swift in Xcode in addition to Python in the future.

[@xerzy]

​@@reckless1280 Using Numba doesn't automatically mean multithreading. I've never seen npbench before, but a very quick look at the source code seems to suggest they're not doing parallelization at all, since there's no @jit and no manual thread spawning from what I can tell.

[@bryan.w.t]

I feel so happy seeing a bunch of the verge team making an appearance on this video

[@gradeA50]

The Python test really depends on what you did in Python since a majority of tasks will be single threaded and you won’t see a benefit from extra cores.

[@cheeloc]

Amazing editing! And great practical review. Instead of just listing specs and comparing with others. Great job!

[@qqq9542]

The BEST review format. Please use this format for future reviews, thanks Verge!!!

[@joross8]

Big fan of the review style where the team finds practical use cases and then explains how it works in each of those scenarios in a thoughtful, articulate way.

[@Gio-ws5gu]

Great comprehensive review! Always love the production and multiple perspectives on the Verge's reviews. On a side note, anyone know where to find the wallpapers used on the Studio display?

[@BradleycBird]

I am going to miss Dieter so much. Him and Josh had so much charisma on mic and video. I feel like the Verge needs a talent bump.

[@BradleycBird]

SOrry, forgot about Becca. Becca should review everything until further notice.

[@hito157]

Love that the reviewers keep it real. Nice cutting through Apple's marketing hyperbole!!!

[@dlbui]

This review was comprehensive and yet easily digestible. The editing and cinematography is remarkable. Thanks for all your hard work!

[@domramsey]

Honestly one of the best Verge reviews I've seen in a long time. Balanced, thorough, fun and - most importantly - useful. I'm going to be saving my money for a while I think!

[@junrosamura645]

One of your best vids yet! I had to pause the vid and see how much time was left because I didn't want it to end. This was so informative and a very truthful review with many perspectives.

[@vickie_g]

Seeing Nilay is always fun....

[@MichaelBaugh]

Well done, this is a beautifully made review and has helped me in my decision making. Thank you!

[@APEABOUTSIMS]

Are the benchmarks for Shadow of the Tomb Raider backwards? How is it running better at 4K than 1080p? 😅

[@arijitsaha20]

Hi, @The Verge. Can you please explain to me why in the Shadow of the Tomb Raider benchmark (14:32) all of them are providing better FPS in 4K setting while in the 1080p setting is performing at a much lower FPS. Is this a mistake or the actual FPS for these resolutions?

[@MarkusGjengaar]

This has to be a mistake from them.

[@ryangerrity2851]

Yeah weird the 3090 4K performance isn't shown as I'd assume they got the labels wrong. Actually pretty impressive the ultra is doing about double the 4K fps compared to the Max and better than the Mac Pro in 1440 and 4K.

[@RiccardoMerloVegan]

It is an error for sure also they would specify that Tomb Raider is running emulated on Mac Studio. So pretty impressive indeed.

[@AlNemec]

I love video review. So well done. I do though have one question. At the 14:30 min mark their are graphs showing frame rates for shadow of the tomb raider. It shows the highest FPS is at 4k and the lowest at 1080p. I think the legend is backwards. Wouldn't you be getting the highest FPS at 1080 and progressively worse as you went to 1440p and 4k?

[@ResizeFilms]

Still absolutely loving my iMac Pro, true workhorse for professional video editing.

[@DerekDavis213]

iMac Pro, with fast Intel processor and fast gpu too. Great for Windows apps, and Windows games too. M1 means Boot Camp is gone, 100% Windows compatibility is *GONE* .

[@Shotter]

Love the multi person reviews. Monica is crushing it.

[@samsicles_jr]

Any thoughts on the nano texture glass and how much it effects clarity / colours? Also any experience with the stand, lot of money but wonder if the adaptability is worth it?

[@ramolifee]

What's a good ultrawide option instead of the studio display? something 5k and usb C? The studio display after watching this seems so disappointing

[@kason9194]

Does anyone know if the Xcode simulator will benefit from an M1 Max over an M1 Pro? Trying to decide if I should wait for an M1 Pro Mac mini or get M1 Max Mac studio.

[@nathvlogz]

This was very in depth thank you to everyone who made this vid

[@MaximeOuellette]

i wish all review videos were this good. Loved it. I was excited about the display and now i'm not anymore :(

[@MrMolchester]

That audio test was probably the best I’ve seen…heard… on a YT review. 👍🏻

[@johnwade7430]

Excellent video Guys - please could we have separate videos from each professional so that we can see exactly what they did with this machine. Personally, I am interested in its Audio capabilities - I use Logic Pro along with Sibelius - a Score writing program. Thanks for the presentation.

[@ParisPolyzos]

As it pulls air from the bottom, I am wondering how easy it would be to clean the dust that will eventually be accumulated in the fans?

[@iamshanif]

Great review 🔥 well detailed 👍

[@evancoe]

One of the best computer reviews I've ever seen. Thankyou very much.

[@erichjrusch]

This is such an incredibly well balanced review. I love it!

[@krzysztofkrymuza9057]

I wonder if having two Apple Studio displays make the sound "stereo" or is it just one of them having active speakers like with the LG UltraFine 5k's... ?

[@cristianmk]

I loved this thorough review! Thank you guys!!! Two things: First, I´ve would have loved to see some test with FCPX, Compressor and Motion (30 sec at least!), just to see how do they perform in this new computer (I know it´s not the industry standard, but hey, many of us use it :D ). Second: Becca, what lenses are you using together with the FX3 camera? The bokeh looks great and the overall image render is top notch. Thank you!

[@damidammi]

Oh guys!!! the monitor specialist guy!! I bloody love him!!! so clear! so straight forward and honest!!! yessssss we love you man!!!

[@dgrandoni]

What displays do you recommend alternatively to the Mac studios display that offer the same colour science and offer dark blacks as the MacBook pros ?! I’m in the market but not sure what to pick up

[@BritoWorx]

Great video verge. This has been the best video on these products so far.

[@nikostheater]

The machine has Thunderbolt ports on the back, and USB-C at the front for the M1 Max version and 2 additional Thunderbolt ports for the M1 Ultra version. It’s the USB-C connector but not just USB-C ports.

[@anythingontwowheels7350]

Thank you. You are the first one to answer my question. I am going with the M1 Max. Thank you so much :) It would have been helpful if you could mention what's the configuration you used for the M1 Max

[@TrentonLipscomb]

Thanks for the in-depth review. I just canceled my Studio Display order. I hadn't read the tech specs, and no micro LED/OLED and no HDR makes this a no go.

[@salvamando1]

I love Becca's energy and enthusiasm! 🥰

[@TheArmatureStudios]

Love the dose of Backlon at the end. I ordered mine on the phone while the keynote was still going and I'm glad I won't regret my decision! Thank you for the quick and thorough review with real pros. Also love the new cinematography look; real environments, natural lighting, wider and closer lensing. Go Becca!

[@GoldGiggler]

Colour grading seems a bit more... natural, as well? Or, washed out? It doesn't seem as contrasty as before. New look though.

[@NeilanMedia]

Awesome! Very helpful review, thank you guys!! Great work and super super happy to hear everyone loved it!

[@RGReilly_Art]

Man, I could use one of these. I currently run on a late 2015 iMac, but with the animations and video editing I do the Studio would be a dream. But I'm waiting to see what the Mac Pro is gonna have. I like that I can swap out some parts on the Mac Pro as I need, but I am a sucker for small form factors. Plus I can more easily take the Studio with me as I travel.

[@crosswire]

Is there a list of software online that makes use of the multi thread mac software

[@ljzarrillo5611]

Another great review! Glad I ran into you on the street and got to say it in person haha

[@timgersten]

Every KZbin channel’s production team went OFF on their Mac Studio reviews. Bravo!

[@ashwinbhat95]

Nice review! Lots of different perspectives, and great editing! Well done.

[@Rocksteady72a]

It'd be awesome to get the test project file at 6:30 for us to compare the speed at home and gauge if it's a significant improvement over current setups 🙏

[@SergiuSalcau00]

Is there a video like this comparing the Mac Studio with the new Mac Mini M2 Pro??

[@Torres9nic]

Absolutely incredible review! Very comprehensive and gorgeous cinematography.

[@canosisplays5152]

Doing web and graphics workflows, this review validated that I can remain happy with my M1 iMac. Thanks Verge.

[@mrki731]

Finally a REAL review of these new Apple. Every other small KZbinr is too worried that Apple won't send them review units for their future videos. THANK YOU the Verge for being straight with us.

[@gotechakash]

The audio quality of this video is like next level good! Really good! Amazing

[@dandansfu]

I appreciate the honesty. While this is the first review I watch today and will watch others to form final opinion but I’m sure there will be some reviewers that will just praise it with over the top excitement.

[@KastanDay]

love that ending bit, Edge to edge has to mean something more than .5” bezel

[@soracool1]

This was an amazing review! Gave me the knowledge I wanted

[@HotelUser67]

I love how you did this video with your own folks giving feedback on it!

[@christophergreen9928]

Flawless review! Great visuals AND music. Informative as always and great to see the whole gang. Shout out to Alex!

[@sinlokemp]

One of the best reviews from The Verge.

[@greggScutum]

the content and editing quality is 10/10 !

[@ricbattaglia6976]

Sudio display is a real 10 with a LUT? Adobe RGB colorspace is 90%? Thanks!

[@GMS444]

Thank you for a well thought out review without all the hype. Just the facts in Real World daily usage.

[@didypy]

This is by far most deep review of a product within 2days I guess, great work to the team. Am highly impress, keep it up.

[@U2haveaniceday20]

Excellent review thanks for explaining exactly how this fits in with everything else that’s out.Appreciate it as always Deb ✌️

[@mateusteixeira4711]

I really love the unbiased point of view of the Verge reviews

[@hayleyharrison5127]

Super informative. As a premiere user I'm incredibly excited for this computer, but even more excited for the Mac Pro.

[@Caleb-gd9yo]

14:31 more frames per second at 4k than at 1440, and than at 1080?

[@chrisjones708]

Thanks for this very substantive review. I am considering buying one of these to replace an iMac, and this was very helpful and thought provoking.

[@Deathsead747]

Hahah Nilay caught me off guard with that "edge-to-edge" rant. Spot on reviews as always Verge team!

[@jakobw135]

What about a HARDWARE update to the included webcam?

[@akaoveve]

Have you ever tried Windows and up to date graphic card drivers?

[@HDMF01]

Excellent review ! I am sharing this with friends to make sure they see and hear this review. Thanks for making this review.

[@speed_one]

Nilay"s passion for displays is endearing.

[@ziich1]

Nilay's jacket game is always on point. Props

[@edjenni6761]

Great review, had to chuckle at SD slot though. I doubt I’ll ever use mine but I sure got use of the one in my 2013 iMac. Today a pro photographer needs a CFExpress type B slot and anything less is like antique already.

[@luisbarvalopez]

This is a really well done review! I'm a graphic designer and the mac studio max is really interesting, but i guess i can wait for another generation.

[@parisneto]

As far as benchmarks go, please share the Boxx Apexx 4 specs or config (could’” not find in the verge website) mentioned in the comparisons so I can understand what is it comparing to. A small ask for an important context of the story ! And great video and content , big fan of The Verge since it was founded!

[@sarayahblackburn4311]

Can you use a different display like the cinema or Thunderbolt Display?

[@theharesbreath]

Are your Shadow of the Tomb Raider graphs mislabeled? 1080p gets the lowest fps and 4k gets the highest??

[@sloanNYC]

Isn't Tomb Raider running through translation Rosetta 2? Or did that get an update?

[@nathvlogz]

m1 chips are having major export issues when exporting as h.264, were there any export errors like pixilation or anything like that for the studio? or do you have a solve?

[@MarkusGjengaar]

I've render a a lot of things with my M1 Macbook air. Both Davinci and Premiere. Can't remember having issues with H.264 exports?

[@nathvlogz]

@@MarkusGjengaar it usually occurs when rendering with a bunch of effects, green screen keys and layers. Exporting from older intel chips of the same proj is fine but exporting from m1 produces glitchy errors.

[@1337Superfly]

Nilay's outro rant was perfect! 😄

[@ishmamchowdhury7134]

Nicely presented Monica & a well put out review from The Verge.

[@Kevalkorat]

how to perform the display test where a white square is moving around in the display?

[@nyambe]

Does it beat the 3090 in premier?

[@christianfeltmeyer1601]

Love your content. Always high quality and good information.

[@JezzLundkvist]

This reviews is amazing! Especially the honesty about the webcam!

[@roberttranceedm]

I will put this into my home music studio this year!

[@homeape.]

9:00 microled backlights on the macbooks? i doubt it, also, i dont understand what the difference between mini-led! in the macbooks and local dimming in the pro xdr display is supposed to mean. its mini led in both cases and it works by locally dimming the backlights...

[@bangcupid007]

Just love the editing of the video!