Machine Head - Robb Flynn "Locust" Lesson

[@naj5999]

I’m glad to hear one of my favorite musicians say that the “6th” string should really be the 1st...I’ve fought that my whole life.

[@homeyiommi1921]

Right?! I love Robb for that alone.

[@filipmaxin2489]

Even thinking about it hurts my brain :D

[@sundigest1121]

Yeah but with extended range guitars like 7 or 8 string guitars it would be the 2nd or 3rd string so it changes.

[@charliegar]

Amen brother.

[@Dumbrhythmicpatterns]

Your not alone. It definitely makes more sense🤟

[@DeeplyDisturbing92]

2:10 that riff is brilliant, so good!

[@Pittaz]

Eargasm city right.

[@loganstrickland5994]

My favorite part of the song tbh

[@canadianphotography6972]

I know.

[@MrOpeth666]

His Voice is drop B,too

[@JohnyBUCuQ5R]

@@SixStringOverdose sharp 40 cent

[@filipevieira3343]

@@JohnyBUCuQ5R and that´s why some songs have rap in them... 40 cent/50 cent... Makes sense now!

[@metalstyler95]

@@filipevieira3343 😂😂

[@canadianphotography6972]

True.

[@tripledarkness2001]

🤣🤣

[@JoshuaKarno]

For such a hardcore band, they have some really beautiful melodies..

[@kogz295]

He is really fucking underrated i dont care what people say even as a guitar player myself i find his riffs fucking tight as hell

[@Litoff90]

He's a criminally underrated guitar player ...

[@floridianthrasher5426]

Very

[@thallrudedjentstorm1756]

what?? He is just a good player in machine head. He knows his stuff but he isnt a super good or underrated player.

[@justusr5092]

@@thallrudedjentstorm1756 nah he’s pretty good. Better a majority of these wannabe fucks nowadays.

[@katranmusic]

U know nothing about guitar playing, boy, if u think that this guy playing good 😆

[@andrepereira744]

Nope.

[@MyNameIsJamisonYo]

Rob is a complete beast...I've always loved machine heads use of harmonics. And godly guitar playing

[@WastelandBowman]

Man, that verse riff is sick! I had forgotten about this song!

[@Ragnarok0Aeirk]

I love the clarity of his clean.

[@oni_ghost99]

Rob is freaking amazing underrated guitar and singer!!🤘🤘🤘

[@CyddGuilbeaux]

The Flynn 40 cents sharp in the b area tuning ok got it!

[@AdamBa17]

Why all the hate? I took it that he meant one of the first to pioneer the B/C drop tuning (I don't remember many bands before Machine Head tuning THAT low, only really to D)

[@Nitionful]

AdamBa17 fear factory?

[@salatielfariasregis9156]

Vámos Györk Fear Factory uses Standard Tunning, and seven string guitars.

[@maximiliano1761]

Fear factory started using 7 strings on demanufacture. Before that they played on B standards. Actually, I'm not even sure they recorded demanufacture with a 7 string cause on the video for replica it looks like dino is playing a 6 string.

[@salatielfariasregis9156]

But if it was in Standard, it's not Drop, still.

[@nickbjerga9554]

Nirvana tuned to drop c for their song blew in 1989.

[@XMetalChefX]

he plays that shit while doing vocals?

[@XxYoShIkOgAkIxX]

yep

[@XMetalChefX]

I mean I know for Revocation and Children of Bodom its the same deal, but still..

[@mt4592]

bodom is a bit faster from my opinion? but then again, i know NOTHING of playing a quitar:D they're all amazing tho

[@joshl1350]

PSMTCHEF matt heafy from Trivium does too

[@w0mbatina]

I honestly dont think any trivum parts are as rhythmically challenging as the chorus of locust. Its just insane how hard it is to sing the chorus and play the riff at the same time

[@hellsunicorn]

In terms of popularizing the drop B tuning sound, Machine Head was pretty early to the scene, but in terms of general down-tuning, particularly to the C# tuning that drop B is otherwise tuned to, it goes back to Sabbath's "Vol. 4" at least. Furthermore, while I can't recall if Overkill's "Skullcrusher" was in Drop B or slightly higher, that song predates Machine Head by about 4 years.

[@kittavares4334]

I'm sure some Led Zeppelin songs were in Open C too. As for pure metal, I don't know the timeline exactly, but Morbid Angel for example used seven string guitars pretty early on. Some early Sepultura songs were in standard C I think. Hell, even Korn released their album the same year as MH.

[@ilikepotatoes1345]

​@@kittavares4334Bolt Thrower tuned to A standard in 1989 for Realm of Chaos, first band to go that low from what I know.

[@nuttagerbeef1577]

literally knows what hes doing. such an awesome guy and a guitarist

[@opennashville2913]

Im glad he got his stolen dimebag back.I think id go on a killing spree if someone stole a guitar that dime personally gave me!

[@lean99zz]

How to not get your song covered on youtube: Make sure it's drop B and 40 cents sharp, yep there you go! Cool song though!

[@KrazyEngima]

40 cents sharp would mean get a tuner and then once you are perfectly at drop B just slightly tune it up to about 40% of the way to the next semitone which would be C...not a difficult concept

[@xXxiFvkxXx]

Ghost.Flowers You'd think that right lmao. But some people have no fucking clue lolol:P

[@KrazyEngima]

True lol I guess I might be giving people a bit too much credit

[@lean99zz]

A lot of people would not even bother to try it (or be capable)

[@Pittaz]

If you have the ability to cover this song in the first place, I would have thought you’d have the ability to figure out the tuning?

[@MonaStereoBeats]

machine head + new stuff = epic album I can't wait for the new cd;)

[@MrSmith-us4bb]

drop tuning is different from down tuning people

[@kyatzz]

+Mr. Smith we know, and bands have been using drop tuning since forever.

[@mattdavis9331]

Mr. Smith no way?!!!!

[@mikahbrandon6985]

Like. What if I told you, CHA.....

[@danielgerard6775]

Just wanted to point out that he said "one of the first", not "the first". And half of you don't know the difference between drop tuning and down tuning.

[@colonelcustard6915]

Ofcourse morbid angel was tuning to B standard down tuning by 1990, machine head used drop B tuning by late 90s

[@cnutella9947]

I'm a big MH fan but it is childish/cheese dickey of him to say.

[@mr.phil.a]

There was tons of stuff in b before they did it.

[@RockyLXXXVIII]

I love how you immediately have people replying to you saying “other people did it first” like they didn’t even read what you said. Guys, saying you are “ONE OF the first” is super different from saying “the first.” He’s not saying MH was the first band to do it, he’s just saying that they were in the first handful of bands that started doing it

[@Ooze27]

@@RockyLXXXVIII This is full with little kids getting all worked up for nothing.

[@IDIDNTORDERANYSOUP]

Met this guy and the rest of machine head, and had em sign a poster which is now hanging in my room. \,,/

[@WalrusDoom]

"We pioneered the practice of using what are called strings on electric guitars. On this song, you'll be playing what we call 'chords' and 'notes' on the six strings."

[@stephenl5416]

Met Rob Logan Adam and will from armored saint was drumming in place of Kontos.... Such awesome humble guys. BME tour.

[@JaseMears]

What a cool dude.

[@hellsunicorn]

@bobokk My mistake, but "Davidian" is in Drop B tuning and was on "Burn My Eyes" (though not the demo as I had original recalled), so my initial assertion about Machine Head using it first is still correct.

[@higler.]

It's always cool when you have your own band tattooed on ya... especially when you invented drop tuning!

[@andrepereira744]

I know that your comment is very old but Robb didn't invent shit!!

[@higler.]

@@andrepereira744 haha I know, I was making fun of him as he's the sort of delusional weirdo that would say that

[@andrepereira744]

@@higler. Oh My bad, buddy! You did the right thing then! :)

[@UkrRusSlavic]

@tango616 Burn my Eyes was written around 1992.... not many bands used drop tunings back then

[@IchigoBto]

Dunlop HeavyCore 12 to 54 ;) ideal for this tuning :D

[@britbongpol]

it really is

[@RonDonValante]

@jacksback1021 parkway drive plays in between drop A and drop B. the tuning machine head plays in is between drop B and drop C.

[@llamaofvinter5801]

Who honestly gives that much of a shit over whether they pioneered it or not (they definitely contributed to it's use, E standard doesn't spring to mind when listening to most Machine Head stuff). They fucking rock and no I don't give a shit what genre people class them as. Folks like to call Megadeth a thrash band for example but aside from Endgame, they haven't made a thrash album this generation. Bands change over time and experiment. Why classify so many bands into genre niches, niches that overlap so closely most of the time and for some dumb cultural reason, certain people have a problem with it? For me it's just whether a band sounds good or not, not whether their music fits into a certain genre or not. I wouldn't care if Feared released a jazz album or something tomorrow. If it sounded good, I'd listen to it. I wouldn't just call it shit because they're a heavy band that are supposed to produce heavy music.

[@Grimeyhoob]

+Röss Lämönt I couldn agree more. Case in point, many myopic metallica fans tend to write-off Load and Reload albums just because it was not thrash. Who cares right? They were solid rock albums and had great songs. I detest people who expect their favorite bands to confine themselves to whatever their origins are in.

[@LJP03]

Endgame wasn’t the only trash album they’ve released, United Abominations, Dystopia and partially Th1rt3en

[@andrepereira744]

Its called "to have an identity" and there's no problem with that!! In fact the big majority of bands and artists never get one but they thing otherwise. Sure I undersand your pov, still its better for a band to have a sound and identity of their own than to sound like everyone else, imho. And that dosen't mean they have to do the same song over and over!! (some) Bands and artists "nowadays" complain and make big "artistic" statements about that. That they don't want to be stuck in some sound/style, they don't want to do the same thing again and again. The "problem" to me is that most of them, don't have an original sound to begin with, they never really developed their own identity/sound but they think they have. So they start that cliche speech about wanting to "evolve" and changing. Changing from what? "You" were never anything. And its even worse because they say that like they have an higher vision of things. Evolving my ass!! Most of the "evolving" process they do, consists on adding new sounds or instruments, because the music structure is exactly the same as milions before. Its an easier process, but they sell this as a very hard thing to do. I mean, its very easy for some death metal band to make an album full of bongo drums, pan flautes, viloins and triangles and then say to the public "we evolve". BS. I'm not against bands changing their sound and experiment, but if every artist/band do the same all the time, what's the point of having diferent artists? I mean, that's basically the concept of a covers band. The thing is, "you" can't be everything! I know that at the end of the day bands/artist do whatever they want but I don't need a Madonna heavy metal album or a Metallica pop-dance album. Without forgeting to mention, that most bands/artist that became world famous, was because they have their own sound. I like my oranges tasting like oranges and my apples tasting like apples.

[@rohouse1990]

That Verse riff is just tearin' shit up! Awesome

[@net537]

He is way better than kerry king

[@SerjShower]

WARNING: You might end up starting a huge fight with ALOT of people, even though I agree xD.

[@BeeFizzle]

SerjShower but he isn't wrong..... and i dislike Robb FLynn

[@SerjShower]

When it comes to who's better than who, it's all matter of opinion. I think Kerry is a great guitarist. Same with Robb Flynn and Phil Demmel. And others like Dave Mustaine, Tommy Iommi, Randy Rhoads, Jim ROot etc etc. But when people say somebody is better than somebody else, it's usually because they just like them better than the other.

[@SerjShower]

Dimebag is ONE of my favorite guitarist, but I'd have to say that the best guitarist in my opinion is Alexi Laiho from Children of Bodom or Dave Mustaine from Megadeth

[@SerjShower]

It's an absolute mindfuck what he can do

[@Elemeninki]

@sketchyou there are 100 cents in a semitone (half step if you're american?), so he tunes to drop b, then tunes all the strings up again again by '40 cents'. It's not enough to be considered a different note, but enough to be noticeable if you decided to compare any given note between the guitar and a piano (that we'll assume is perfectly in tune)

[@markodon3226]

Chugga chugga chug chugga chug chugga chug

[@brettd530]

Hell yeah!

[@CarcassOfBodom]

@TheMegamania Death plays in d standerd, he means that the "first string" is tuned a step lower than the the rest.

[@RatedDesigns]

Dont see the problem with him saying they "pioneered" drop tunings. i mean its music who gives a shit who started what? if you want to get REALLY technical then fine but if you get technical youre one of the idiots that agree that stairway to heaven was a rip off of another song. "good musicians take Great musicians steal" said by kirk hammett himself. now stop sitting on the internet and bashing the band when you can support them for making REAL music not that crappy electronic, auto tuned, fake crap.

[@EGGJAZZ]

Rated Designs BLACK SABBATH

[@reaperontherun716]

+Rated Designs can't spell crap without rap

[@VideoMask93]

+Rated Well, it's patently wrong. Just in hard rock and heavy metal spheres, Soundgarden, Helmet, and King's X were doing drop tunings before Machine Head was formed. The Beatles had a song in Drop-D, for crying out loud. So did Led Zeppelin and Van Halen. It predates Machine Head. They may have been the first band to popularize Drop-B specifically, but they assuredly did not pioneer the concept of tuning the low string an additional full tone down.

[@sergejkrynycky728]

Every good point that you've said lost credibility when you said ''crappy electronic, auto tuned, fake crap'' making you the same idiot that agree with Stairway to Heaven being a rip off. What a shame.

[@JJalapenoss4l]

Very nice crunch there! \m/ That verse riff is sweet too!

[@NPC999]

"we were one of the first bands to pioneer drop tuning" lol...

[@nicknelson634]

Robb comes across as being very full himself. Very annoying

[@alecschor4506]

Nick Nelson what? He said one thing about the band which is a group of people. Not himself. Robb is actually a very nice guy. The catharsis incident also happened after this video was made so you guys should just shut the fuck up.

[@lkdgamingchannel5219]

Metallica Rulz Catharsis incident?

[@ncovalle2112]

@@alecschor4506 is this why his whole band quit on him. Or why he opted to pay adam duce less then the whole band, or worse declined to do the Roadrunner United album in till they paid him much much more then the other artists on the album. Long time Machine Head fan but Rob has always seemed like an ass to me.

[@ismelljello]

@jurnag12 'Jazz' was Queen's 1978 album theat featured bicycle race and don't stop me now

[@arthurmayhem]

"Hey Im jesus and I will show you how to play locust"

[@Gecc]

@SCOTTYISSRM The simple answer is yes, but depends on a lot of things, mainly on your personal taste. When I played in drop B on my 24.75" guitar, I used 65 gauge for the low B. On my 7 string, which was 25.5" scale, I used 60, yet it sounded a lot clearer, sharper, and the string tension felt more "natural" to me. On my baritone I only need to use 56 gauge, and due to the longer scale the sound clears up a lot! Actually when I put on 60's on the 27" scale, I could go down to G#, noproblem. :)

[@franciscovillegas3170]

I always get like a feeling that Robb's Guitar playing is much more cleaner than Phil's. Phil is kind of a bit sloppier in my opinion. mayne it's just because he is the rythm AND the lead vocalist.

[@metalvocalistwanted]

been listening to MH from the beginning and its kickass to see em back in the spotlight \\m//

[@SpinalAlloy]

Really?...they were the first band to use dropped tunings? I highly doubt that

[@TheKaneDestroyer]

How else do you think drop tuning was introduced?

[@SpinalAlloy]

I'm just saying they weren't the first one

[@TheKaneDestroyer]

SpinalAlloy No one even knows if there is a band that introduced drop tuning. I'm just saying what I think. All I want was to know who you think introduced drop tuning.

[@SpinalAlloy]

Who do I think? As far as metal goes, I say Led Zeppelin...but that's just me

[@SpinalAlloy]

But you do have a point there

[@sword13reaker]

Absolutely loved this lesson!! best song!! Cheers Robb Flynn and Guitar World!

[@AXESLINGER2112]

Tony Iommi dropped his shit in 68'

[@johnmoore9588]

+AXE SLINGER Which Sabbath songs are in drop tunings?

[@AXESLINGER2112]

all of them........ Bb-Ab-Db-Gb-Bb-Eb,

[@johnmoore9588]

You know what drop tuning is, right? Also, most of Sabbath is Db-Gb-B-E-Ab-Db

[@AXESLINGER2112]

one string or all strings....Zepp (moby dick) the doors, beatles all played or drop D tunings...my point is this dude learned it from musicians that played it many years ago.....

[@johnmoore9588]

+AXE SLINGER Yeah that's a fair point. I just remember Tony for sounding so heavy without drop tuning.

[@kitsune10000]

@tango616 Agreed....sabbath was some of the earliest drop tuning on the record Master of Reality C# tuning

[@zippy1911]

One of the first Bands with drop tuning.. Bullshit

[@Boons___1]

+zippy1911 Not ONE of the first?

[@danutd94]

He's not saying he 'invented' drop tuning. Bands like Sabbath certainly made use of it in and amongst what they were doing at the time but Machine Head were one of the bands that took the idea and pioneered using it exclusively

[@johnmoore9588]

+JEENOX D Sabbath never drop tuned. Drop tuning is to do with the 6th string being an octave below the 4th. Iommi never did that (or at least very rarely)

[@jackonj9050]

John Moore exactly!

[@erikman21]

@Masahreeindigo he explains that they tune a bit sharp from drop b, just like pantera tuned a bit off of normal tunings

[@zekejeager2451]

Hard times. Jesus is now teaching guitar tutorials and shit.

[@thomasche]

Get a life

[@ismelljello]

@jurnag12 I'm trying to recall some songs off of 'jazz' that had drop tunings and i'm pulling blanks lol same thing for metallica in 86.

[@frogtastic1000]

Their last great album was Burn My Eyes.

[@NonstopWolf14]

Whoa, you do know "The Blackening" exist!!??!!??

[@GoTnUnion]

Tony Stark Unto the Locust is very underrated

[@pametalfan95]

Damn, the verse riff slowed down could be a perfect throwdown moment during a show!

[@Dark_Nebula]

I love how he says they 'pioneered' drop tunings whilst wearing a black sabbath t-shirt.

[@chairsmissing]

+Dark Nebula don't confuse drop tuning with down-tuning Drop tuning is when you tune the lowest string a whole tone lower from regular tuning and that was evident in the 90s and later on. Bands like Pantera, Korn, Deftones and Machine Head were all brought up in the first half of the 90s, and they would all use that drop tuning sonic vibe.

[@yvesheinrich5013]

I don't recall Pantera using Drop B or below C# standard tuning, unless Dimebag started with Drop B and below in Damageplan, but Deftones never got into C# tuning or below until their fourth album in 2003. I also don't recall that Deftones have used Drop B because John Carpenter uses seven or eight strings and Chino probably didn't start playing guitar specifically with C# standard or Drop B.

[@Tutankamion196]

My God, Robb looks so young here... How time flies

[@joni485]

I thought i was the only one who noticed

[@DannySykess]

First one to pioneer Drop tuning hahahaha And He is wearing Sabbath Tshirt LOL

[@themightymcb7310]

Danny Sykes Sabbath never used drop tunings. Sabbath used DOWN tunings. Drop tunings have the 6th and 4th strings an octave apart, making the 6th and 5th strings a perfect fifth. Down tunings have you tune every string down by the same interval. Sabbath play in C# Standard (C#F#BD#G#C#) 99% of the time live nowadays, whereas a band like Lamb of God plays in Drop C# (C#G#C#F#A#D#) live. In C# Standard , the whole guitar is one and a half tones lower than E Standard, whereas in Drop C#, the 6th string is one and a half tones lower than E Standard while the rest of the guitar is half a tone lower than E Standard.

[@kalen7393]

"One of the first" he said

[@HarvesterOfEyes91]

@jurnag12 Sabbath used drop D I believe, right from the beginning....since Iommi had severed fingers. And there's this Thrasher band from Seattle called Forced Entry. They played Drop D as well in their 1991 album and numerous other old school bands ..... Basically drop tuning isn't that much of an unusual thing.

[@kevinw8688]

Huge fan of Robb and Phil, but their leanings toward nu metal are not good. Burning red was frat boy nu metal tripe...but I tell you what...he ended it all with the Blackening, one of the finest metal albums done since 2000, a total masterpiece.

[@Powered_By_Pies]

Burning Red and Supercharger were a combination of Roadrunner pushing Machine head to be something they weren't and Rob and co trying out new sounds to see if they could fit in with the up-coming nu-metal wave in the late 90's/early 00's. The former had its' good moments (The blood, the sweat, the tears and Devil with the Kings' card), but both albums are ranked quite low in a Machine Head fans' list because of the difference in sound to the first 2 albums. In fact 'Charger nearly killed them off after the Crashing Around You video was released about a week before 9/11, and they suffered a huge media backlash because of it. That said, I still think my all-time favourite album they've done is Ashes Of Empires. A brutal return to their older sound. And I don't care that some new-generation 'metaaaaaaal' douches really seem to hate MH, they're pretty much my all-time favourite band and Bloodstones & Diamonds is a superb record.

[@drdrunk123]

@ElvisBluntman777 Iommi didn't play in Drop D, the lowest tuning he used was in Electirc Funeral when he tuned to Eb Ab Db Gb Bb Eb or a half step lower.

[@Eddiemakessounds]

yeah that drop running comment is just ego-centric. love you guys but na bro...ya didn't.

[@dougbline]

Some people use drop D, C, B and A tuning to play with one finger but when I use it I can come up with some cool riffs & solos that you can't really do in a standard tuning!

[@nicky91guitar]

I love rob and machine head but that guitar could be from avril lavigne...

[@bryantb4833]

He's got a awesome solid sound

[@ArseLoad0fMetal666]

@jurnag12 very early classical and flamenco guitarists were the first to use drop tunings and loads of the old blues guys used drop-D and drop C#. Fuck it even some lute players used it

[@mojojasons]

@thatJCguy - Yeah!! And Don't forget SoulBent and Mojo Filter!!! Those 2 bands were around looooong before the Beatles..Rockin that shit out in drop tuning!

[@BobSubgenius]

After that long intro talk about why they tune some cent higher and how much research they put into it I didn't expect him to play most of the lesson with an out of tune instrument. Didn't know the band still exists, but remember I liked their first album a lot when it came out.

[@MegaFretboy]

@tango616 he said one of the first, not the first. and in a sense they were one of the first, because they started in 95, and the only other bands that were blatantly using those tunings were pantera, cannibal corpse, nile, etc.

[@Direksone]

@ExplorerFreak they were one of the first to use drop B my friend.

[@00sven00sven00]

@tango616 Yeah i know some classical pieces that use drop tuning and they were written way before this chap was born!

[@readonly999]

@tango616 he said "We were one of the first bands to pioneer drop tuning" which is completely true.

[@haydnhades]

Same in the Advanced mix, Robb is right ear and does the harmony, also on all guitar tabs for it, it says Phil does the harmony.

[@naomiliongirl12]

@zadraluca Thats cause of who he tunes inbetween drop b and c as he says he drop b's it then he tunes it slightly sharper cause he gives just a little sweeter sound and better harmonics

[@MetalMakesMeEargasm]

He took classical lessons from a expert classical guitarist and was already an amazing guitarist, I REALLY don't care what what you say. "then why are you talking to me?" You may ask- because I take pride in spreading a good word about an amazing man like Mr. Flynn, his music is life changing and emotional/heartfelt. I have been playing guitar for years and I simply know what I am saying. You may hate him or like or love him- whatever, he is an incredible guitarist. One of the best seen, ever.

[@nunofrg]

how amazing tone that is! anyone know what gear he used here besides the emgs?

[@stefanhorvatits5646]

That crunch in the intro is sick

[@HurricaneTBag]

@axllovesslash Tony Iommi is a very special player, you can't compare anyone to him. Dude was truly one of a kind. There's plenty of great players that make good usage out of the extra strings. "Need," isn't the right question...use is.

[@FunnyMovieMonster]

@Guitarman461 it is his signature baritone guitar

[@EccentricbyNature]

Actually Robb has stated many times that Machine Head's tuning is pretty much drop B but raised a few cents. Somewhere between drop c and drop b.

[@FlameSama1]

@thatJCguy I think he meant Drop B specifically.

[@Axel666esp]

@naomiliongirl12 Invisible Kid is even in G#, The unnamed feeling is in drop B, despite everyone thinks it's in drop C. On their site you can find meet and greet videos and someone asked it, and James said it was in drop B, so I assume it is :)

[@breathingreflection]

Robb talks about "tuning 40 cents sharp", but how do you tune to that? Solely by ear? I haven't come across a tuner that lets you set Pantera tuning (1/4 flat) at the center. Perhaps I have to use one of the "flat" dots as a reference point?

[@AwestruckFIGJAM]

@urdumbfoo well, thats just up to you man, i think because of the stuff they play, i reckon it actually does sound cooler, makes it more bright and vibrant too what they play

[@sixstringfretter]

Just to clear up a few misconceptions: When talking standard tuning (EADGBe) drop means ONLY dropping the low E to a D, so you can bar the bottom three strings. If you drop all the strings down a full step, then you would be in standard D, NOT dropped D. Down two whole steps is standard C, drop the low string only then, and your in dropped C so you can bar the bottom three strings. And so on. Get it? That's the difference between dropped and standard.

[@toontownfoo]

@NIMHFS I think he meant pioneering the dropped B tuning, cause they kinda were.

[@Jean-Pierre.Hortefeux]

I use the same strings that I normally put in my 7 string, and it works great. the strings are not too fat for the nut and stuff (D'addario exl120-7, just get rid of the 9)

[@RKOboring9]

@jurnag12 actually that Metallica song that i think your talking about, The That Should Not Be, it was tuned to D not drop D. now Queen and The Beatles i don't know, im sure your right though

[@SanctuaryShred]

Actually, I own the Phil Demmel Signature Jackson Demmelition King V which is 25.5 scale length, and even has a Floyd Rose and it came tuned to Drop B and sounded amazing. It is possible haha, even with a floyd, but make sure to use heavy gauge strings, my Jackson has 11-56, that's almost Baritone territory...

[@Machinehead18]

@readonly Ok thanks so what does machine head tune to? And i didn't say they invented drop tuning just saying that i believe they did sort of inspired alot of people and bands today to drop tune.

[@hellsunicorn]

@MetalasanArtForm Hmm, I've encountered various tabs that put it in Drop B. Oh well, it could just be a few cents down from Drop C but closer too. In which case, Overkill did it long before either Sepultura or Machine Head, which is fine by me considering I like them more. lol

[@MireWolf29]

@MunterE Exactly, I believe Eddie Van Halen was playing in Drop D before Machine Head were even around.

[@Direksone]

@ExplorerFreak Not literally no, but I'm pretty sure he meant 'to pioneer the drop B tuning'

[@JCDwyer]

@v2freak for starters, Led Zeppelin (Moby Dick, 1969); Van Halen (Unchained, 1981); Uriah Heep (The Wizard, early 70's I think); The Beatles (Dear Prudence, not sure of the year); King's X (most or all of their material, they came out in the 80's). And even Jazz great George Benson has occasionally used Drop-D, for ages. Like I said, not slagging the guy, I'm actually a big fan of MH, they're one of the best bands around in my opinion. I'm just pointing out what's what. Cheers, man!

[@WalrusDoom]

@UkrRusSlavic Do some research on Godflesh. They did an EP around 1990 called "Tiny Tears" that was in drop-B tuning, and the album wasn't released for years because they had tremendous problems getting it to sound right. That's just one example, I'm sure there are many more out there. It's like how nu-metal guys and Steve Vai would have you think they invented the 7-string, when it was jazz guitarists who were the first to embrace it.

[@TerranMacKay]

@UkrRusSlavic Those bands ARE from the 80's and early to mid 90's dude. Sepultura used a Droped B over E standard.

[@Shredmastakaos]

Finally!!! Rob has told you how to tune your guitars to cover Machine Head.... Thankyou... now we don't have to explain in our covers 1001 times how to tune to MH ;)

[@alexandertinneny7275]

love the tone

[@TerranMacKay]

@00sven00sven00 Yeah man, In fact MOST classical pieces I've learned are all in drop D, It's just for Range og notes.

[@jacksback1021]

@donovanwilder true also parkway play in drop c in their earlier stuff

[@HeretekNC]

@tango616 Don't forget Jesu when it comes to Drop A, Seeing as it's Justin Broadrick, it kinda ties in with his whole fetish for really melodic music at pretty damn low tuning. Also, Electric Wizard plays in BEADF#G, Bongripper plays a 7 string tuned to G#, and Tosin Anasi plays all the way down to Drop E on an 8 string guitar

[@jaidonnn]

@Axel666esp And? That was released in 2003, Machine Head's first album was released in 1994 which had pretty much all songs in drop B