Machine Shop Update Tour & New Product Reveals! | Pierson Workholding

[@PiersonWorkholding]

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[@Pondimus_Maximus]

Glad to finally see the EC-400! I’m looking forward to more vids on how you guys are makings things happen on that machine. 😀

[@mahtabanwar4744]

Great demonstration.

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Thanks for watching!

[@adamyost9118]

Everything looks great! Really interested in the pallet vise 👌

[@jens-petterarnesen]

Great Job. I’m surprised you did not part your accumulator in segments. Having it turning in sequence filling one segment after the other. So, you could make quality checks in the morning and if there is a problem go through the batches until the problem is no longer there. KR Jens

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Interesting but not necessary. If the part is within tolerance for 12 hours, it'll be within tolerance for 12 more.

[@MikeBeard]

Definitely interested in the PPS vise set up with the independent left and right. Very cool.

[@thunderthormx]

Wow lots of new exciting things happening over there. Thanks for the update. Love watching a good shop grow!

[@platin2148]

Hmm this little thing on the puma feels like it could be done as a profile

[@stevendoesburg6555]

Great to see all of the progress you’ve made! On the ec-400 you might be able to cut down on the duplicate pallets by running a higher mix. Two types of part on one tombstone, 2 pallets each since you have them, and then two other parts on the next tombstone keeps the spindle running. You don’t need to swap between tombstones running all of the same part. Scale the number of pallets you make for a part by the volume you need, ie how often you need to run a pallet in a day. You will run in to a limit with the number of tools you can hold in the toolchanger, which is where the business case for tool changers with several hundred pockets start to make sense. You trade off capex on duplicate workholding for capex on larger toolchangers which is not bound to a specific part or part revision.

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Good points.

[@jmeleika1]

You’re solvin the big problems!! Only 4 min in so far and very impressed

[@andrewnichols1470]

Love seeing the new products! Even more on the list to add to my shop’s capabilities

[@jonivanart]

Awesome! When I see the conveyer sorting pan I think that 3d printing a guide part that organizes those round parts like a coin separator and drops them into tubes. Just a thought. 🤷‍♂️

[@TrPrecisionMachining]

very good shop Mr Pierson

[@ContraptionCollection]

Amazing stuff!

[@kevind1865]

That vise is clever. I really like it.

[@jamescerven4400]

These new drops are awesome!!

[@AnthonyGriz]

Jay, at the 6:43 mark you talk about the Quartz Rod, which I found pretty cool. What also caught my eye was that you had what looks like you cut up some black foam board and filled in the unused T-slots. A simple and cost effective lean solution to keep the slots clean, and I'd imagine far quicker and easier for parts cleanup - a nice touch!

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Thank you! That black foam is what we use in our packaging. It's closed cell and coolant resistant and works great!

[@AnthonyGriz]

That's awesome to hear. That will be something for me to add in once I move from my router to a new cnc mill. @@PiersonWorkholding

[@gtscientific_and_manufacturing]

Excited to learn more about the micro and how they compare to Schunk Vero

[@texasermd1]

Nice looking products as usual! 👍👍

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Glad you like them!

[@MikeG-js1jt]

I'm floored by how large some of those machines are.... sheessssh

[@davelelonek]

Nice looking stuff, Jay

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Thanks 👍

[@trevoradams8675]

Thanks for the tour! The roto rack looks like a good budget friendly solution. Has me wondering how it might be possible to fabricate something similar for even less powered by a simple Arduino. Hmmm Might give that more thought for my little shop. Cheers!

[@merseyless]

Something like an industrial timer would work for you. The industrial control systems version of an Arduino is a PLC if you want a challenge. The price is a bit higher, but all the relays and IO protection are built in which will save you in the long run.

[@PiersonWorkholding]

I thought the same thing but decided to buy vs make. At this stage in business, I value my team's time more than the cost associated with starting from scratch. Rewind 5 yrs and we probably would have gone the PLC route.

[@trevoradams8675]

That makes good sense. Time is valuable for sure. I’m still a lonely one man show it might make sense for me. but I hope to be there someday too. Thanks for sharing! 😁

[@Meyerwoodworks]

That's exactly what Grimsmo has on his Tornos. It's a 3D printed rotary with multiple trays.

[@adammiller4879]

That first vise is absolutely awesome for a 3 axis! Need to get my work to buy a couple dozen of these, we’re still just using plain old kurt vices for everything even if we have hundreds of parts

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Yes please get them to buy better workholding. A $300 single station vise in a $50,000 machine crushes my soul. It's like putting minivan tires on a Ferrari.

[@adammiller4879]

@@PiersonWorkholding I would if I could, it’s big, big company, nothing is done the way it should, and there’s only so much suggestion a little worker like me can do. Love your videos. I always try to implement lean ways into my work when allowed, copy exact with semiconductor parts is rough.

[@ludacrips76]

Jay, I assume the maps micro will be a direct fit to the rotovise in the future? Also what bolt patterns come standard on it? I'd assume it can both bolt to the trt210 standard platter and the t slot version. Thanks much.

[@PiersonWorkholding]

The bolt hole pattern is 5.51" (140mm) which bolt directly to the TRT210 faceplate or any 4 or 6 slot rotary face.

[@chadbrubaker6040]

What flooring epoxy did you use? Is it a DIY type thing you did?

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Not sure. I paid an epoxy contractor to do the work but I do remember it was a pro-grade product that was a 2 part formula.

[@LoneWolfPrecisionLLC]

Excited to see a video on the max 4 micro mentioned o nthe podcast hopefully soon.

[@PiersonWorkholding]

This one just went live and I'll have plenty more to share: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJWweYx_qKdkl8U

[@LoneWolfPrecisionLLC]

@@PiersonWorkholding love it! The full size does not fit on my 130mm nikken trunnion but I'm hopeful the micro will

[@ksanalyticalsystems2438]

Great work!

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@Echo7Kyle]

Did you guys do a milled contour on your sub spindle to pick up part in second op ?

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Yes, machined a collet to match the profile.

[@andrewnichols1470]

Any updates coming on the new multi-axis pallet? We’ve got some ideas noodling, and this may work great!

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Our MAX-4 system is live: store.piersonworkholding.com/MAX-Pallet-System_c_17.html

[@FiveDesigns-n1o]

Very interested in the PPS vise set up....Will you also offer a model rotated 90 degrees? Both of my PPS bases are long ways on the X axis.

[@PiersonWorkholding]

It's a possibility but capacity would be reduced.

[@HudsonLighting]

Wait, there's no bar feeder on that beaut? Sound like it's prime for the simplest autmation

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Nope, but it's Bar-Feed ready!

[@willch1987]

Will you be offering the vise with a RockLock bolt pattern option?

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Yes! It will be compatible with all 96mm pullstud systems like Lang, Jergens, 5th Axis, Synergy, etc.

[@hectordominguez7143]

I'd be really interested in seeing how you moved that part to the puma especially how it transfers a non round shape to the sub spindle! I feel like we are under utilizing our lathe where I work.

[@brianwaayenberg3099]

I would like to see the transfer jaw/collet method. I have a flat square product that would benefit from a sub spindle. Just exploring the lathe possibilities for purchase now for it /plan workflow/tooling/work holding

[@clkeck1]

2nd opp is easy. Just machine an emergency collet to grab the outside of the part. You do have to watch orientation in regards to collet split lines and sometimes add radial clearance to any undercuts so it can open

[@PiersonWorkholding]

We cut the part's profile into a machinable collet. From there, it's just a matter of entering the angular offsets in the control to get the part and collet to align.

[@gtscientific_and_manufacturing]

I have a 2 jaw chuck with machineable jaws on my sub to do this.

[@richhuntsd12]

Wow, really nice setup Jay. I really like these kind of videos. I have a quick question. When You setup your computer stations I noticed they are on a rolling cart. Do You do a small rubber cord with a cat 5 and 120volt power to the cart location or what? As usual very cool video. I want to check out several of your new products. Than You for sharing.

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Good question. In short, we run a cord to a small battery backup (UPS). This gives us plenty of time to unplug and move to the next location without having to power down/up. Computers are on WiFi but we post programs to a network server that the machines are hardwired to.

[@richhuntsd12]

@@PiersonWorkholding Thanks Jay , that is very helpful

[@ErnestDuarte]

Hey I like your tombstone setup man! We have been using the setup with the 12 mini pallets on our tombstone and it's been awesome.

[@PiersonWorkholding]

That is awesome! I remember that slick air valve you guys designed. It was inspiring!

[@timstamps100]

When is the pro-pallet vise system going to be available?

[@PiersonWorkholding]

On schedule for release at the end of February 2024.

[@BillGriggs]

Will the MAPS micro be able to mount to the table of a Tormach PCNC1100?. Would like to add one to the MPS I already have so I could use all my table area.

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Yes! 2 of the 8 bolts holes are meant for mounting directly to a t-slot table.

[@BillGriggs]

@@PiersonWorkholding Thanks Jay.

[@michaelgrimes9153]

Haas doesn’t have a “quickset” feature?

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Gimme more details and I'll see if I can answer.

[@ericlaycock9688]

M. Dell famous for his refusal to sell to gun stores! We are choosing sides nowadays and every machinist I know is a Patriot! I have been is this since 1970...I applaud your success against all odds...wish we could do business someday.

[@PiersonWorkholding]

If that's the case, Texas and Tennessee are a couple bad states Dell picked for headquarters and distribution.

[@davidmott2090]

Dell are fantastic machines. I've also never had a problem with a new or refurb Dell and have purchased dozens for my businesses over the years. I won't touch a HP/Compaq.

[@PiersonWorkholding]

I agree. I tried several other brands over the years to try and branch out but keep coming back to Dell.

[@TheDayzman]

Why make 8 of each pallet for the EC? Just put your 2 first op and 2 second op pallets you already have on one tombstone, take them out and reload them ergonomically on the bench while the machine is running another product. You still geht two finished pallets per cycle and have no extra cost in storing, managing and making the extra pallets. Plus the machine is running the whole time anyways because it has a pallet pool. IMO you gain nothing but complexity with switching loaded pallets on the tombstone instead of reloading the pallets of the tombstone. Thanks for all of your content and your work educating the industry.

[@PiersonWorkholding]

That is a fine approach for a day shift, but horizontals pay for themselves when you load them up for an overnight run.

[@rlockwood2]

MAPS is probably not ideal as a name, especially when combined with a number- DMG/Mori has had a line of MAPPS control overlays for years.

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Great point. MAPS is a working title and we'll finalize the name at launch.

[@mihailfelixdumitresc]

Min 12:11 ''....this really cut down a lot of wasted motion of walking back and forth''......I hope it works for you, as for others it has not...there is this famous Japanese company which did the same thing many years ago (moved coffee machines close to the working islands within their factory for precisely the same reason like yours). Six months later they moved them back to the end of their building, as productivity dropped a lot within those 6 months. Apparently, coffee was the second reason for workers to go to the coffee machines, the first one being that they could get to socialize with one another without their bosses seeing them. On the other hand , management style in Japan is completely different than the American one; the distance between bosses and workers in Japan is bigger (social status, respect - as perceived in their culture, etc) whereas you guys in America (European here) are much more informal, therefore no need for workers not to be seen by their boss while talking to one another.

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Good points! The culture of Pierson Workholding is one that celebrates our failures because they put us one step closer to success. I'll keep everyone updated how this works. BTW, coffee makers and height gauges are culturally apples and oranges.

[@joearledge1]

17:00 I'm no rocket surgeon, but, couldn't you have just gotten a bigger bucket for $20 to $100....

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Bigger bucket only solves half the problem. We don't want parts landing on each other. It happens every now and then but not every single part.

[@joearledge1]

@@PiersonWorkholding add a ramp leading into the bucket from the belt... first few parts should come to rest on the ramp from the belt and slowly get pushed into the bucket/box. No hard part on part impacts, just gentle pushing similar to the solution y'all purchased. Long as there is sufficient room to hold all the parts made from the time you leave to the time you get back, then no worries of overflow.

[@u_solutions_lv]

6k for this????? holy heck,

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Perspective: Or 18k for the one I didn't buy.

[@u_solutions_lv]

@@PiersonWorkholding I can make one for 4 and have around 30% margin on it. Sadly shipping and customs would eat up all other diference

[@merouanebenderradji1582]

excuse me 6 grand for that rotating dish come onnnn peter u are better than this a motor and an arduino with some machining and design would've been 2000$ tops and that's counting the time it would take to make the thing

[@brettcnc]

Royal ones are $20 k in aus

[@merouanebenderradji1582]

@@brettcnc well with the royal you get a comprehensive package it's a rotating belt that will feed parts to a tumbler like with media to prevent them from hitting and scratching each other you can make one a lot cheaper but it is a bit complicated and takes more time and 2 or 3 prototypes but you'll eventually get there but it is not worth it bcz if you really need one you are too busy to engineer and make one it would be better if you had a vision and made one on the slow days in the case of pierson he bought something that he totally could design and make in 3 days including hiring someone to do the logic and programming side and it would cost 2000$ tops but anyway if your 3 days are worth 4000$ that's another thing.

[@PiersonWorkholding]

I think you should start a company and sell them for $2000.

[@merouanebenderradji1582]

@@PiersonWorkholding I wish I was there I live in algeria ans there are a lot's of caveats but now you're saying it I can do exporting people are buying stuff from china all the time you're right I'll think about it thanks john.

[@merouanebenderradji1582]

can u link their website@@PiersonWorkholding

[@KingZeusCLE]

Stop peddling for Dell. They are extremely anti consumer.. look into it a bit. Go get more for your money.

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Are you recommending a computer made in China?

[@PiersonWorkholding]

Crickets... I'll take that as a "yes".