Do you have any solutions to maintain vacuum on the pallet for transfers?

Hi Jay Another great video. At the 1:05 minute mark there is a technical error in the explanation. The clamping force depends on a number of factors. These are :-- thread pitch, coefficient of friction between thread and nut, PCD of thread and applied torque. Your Rotovice would have a smaller thread PCD so on that basis alone the clamping force is higher. Basically clamping force is inversely proportional to PCD of thread. e.g. double the PCD and the clamping force is halved. Cheers

Hi Jay Another very informative video. When you found the length error with your various tool setters was the tool rotating as part of the tool setter macro or did it not matter?

What types and brands of tool holders and collets do you use? Roughing and finishing if different.

Inspiring. Daunting from a beginner’s standpoint

Just curious why didn't pair your Rotovise with your pallet system? Or better yet, your rotovise pallet setup with your regular pallets?

I like the examples of increasing number of parts and reducing cycle time by just using the magically appearing 5th axis.

Nice work Jay! Can you comment on how low volume repeat products can be evaluated for High Density Workholding? Something like comparing 10/quarter to 100/week 20 minute cycle parts? 100/week seems obvious to do, but 10 every 3 months not so much; what method do suggest for deciding when to and when not to use HDW?

Can this be added to a hrt 160?

very good new product mr pierson

Like today you can't get electrician without giving him 200 $ for simple work, it will be the same with machinists in next 5...10 years. Labor shortage is another term that managers as most useless employee in the world (except few % that actually do something good) to justify their incompetence

kinda wanna see your toolroom and tooling system overall

You could have put 16 per cycle on rotovise with pallets could you not?

Love the product, but this example is terrible. 10 mins per part is rediculous.

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How are you suppose to break the mentality of "if it ain't broke don't fix it"? I can't even drag the other machinist into the 21st century methods of machining. Let alone for them to use their cycle times to do something else productive.

Love it! I am excited for the max 4 micro thst was hinted at in the podcast at it should hopefully fit on my brother with a nikken 130 trunnion

Nice product , nice video, just 1 question. It seems like maybe you could have made your pallet just long enough to hold 4 rows of your vacuum chuck part without a lot of problems but obviously I am not aware of all the parameters. Thanks for sharing

As always great and informative video! Really thought provoking. Have you thought about a small pallet changing vertical like a brother r for these kind of parts? With a 4th axis on each pallet you could hit all six sides and load the parts time independent of when the cycle is finished. I think that would be a great next step. As you only have high quality personnel, the additional machine type and controller shouldn’t be that much of a hassle.

Why are you not just put the part shown in a y axis lathe / mill-turn with a bar feeder? - Is it due to the offset through hole on the edge?

That is a 2 minute part complete

It's called "thinking outside of the box" and being a problem solver.

Excited to see a video on the max 4 micro mentioned o nthe podcast hopefully soon.

Start with good standardised processes! You know where to come... .😀

What tool holding do you use with your Lynx. I find that it takes such a long time to change tools on those BMTs.

10:06 I've replaced so many of those cutting tool holders.

I run 6 of these at my work. I thought I broke one today and was really freaking out. The machine alarmed out and I reset it and thought I unclamped the sub spindle Chuck and it didn't. Then I jogged the B axis over with a part clamped in both chucks and it snapped the steel part.

7:30 *What was that parting off tool?*

Why not just load up a chip fan in the tool carousel and run a macro program. Alot easier no?

If you think about it, it's weird that most machines that work with coolant don't have air knife option at all. It's such a useful thing to have.

Thanks for the video Jay!

good video Mr pierson..thanks for your time

Here's a link to our Pro Pallet System as seen in this video 👉 piersonworkholding.com/pro-pallet-system/

Jay, you are a gift for the CNC human branch. Thank you for your help and generosity via the You Tube channel. Be Blessed in all your ways and means, your family and your CNC crew. Salutations from France.

It just that new people see it as something they want to learn and the older people see it as something they already now some not all, think they have learned everything and don’t need help.

Yup i have a few questions. Throughput. Why does it matter so much? You can throw silly "what ifs" at anything but the two circumstances I'm about to lay out, I feel, are perfectly common. They are also "anti-lean" (?) , and ignore "total throughput" , so I hesitate and feel I am missing something, but this seems perfectly logical to me. 1. Customer needs to place an order today. So they do, and we get the job. They have a deadline, and the job sits for 6 days. While sitting, no person or resource spends a single second or penny on it. It just sits in someones inbox or to do list to enter the order. Then they enter it, we do it in a day, ship it 3 days early, done. Can we not say throughput starts when the work starts? 2. Customer places order today. Its a big 150k order. We could run ALL of our equipment and people on it, to get it done super fast. fastest throughput possible. Its due in 6 months. So we do. This is fastest throughput. Except a problem - we missed a bunch of great opportunities because we had no capacity. Job is finished and no work. It would have been better to run the job out longer, over time, and used some of our other resources to do other things. Wrong? Sure - the opposite could happen, where you drag the job out a bit and a super good opportunity comes along and if you had done that first job faster you'd have the capacity for it and now you don't becuse you cant do both. But, by leaving yourself with some open capacity, you leave the door open for opportunities and can take them when they come - rather than passing on some and hoping more come later. Yeah?

The first thing I’d do is turn off that annoying beep.

Standardized cutting tools or a first choice tooling program is a huge step in the right direction. My last shop had a mix of tooling. One guy would program a job with a material specific tool and the next guy would use general purpose tooling. It led to wildly different part quality and cycle times.

would a 6 sided hexagon tomb stone work in this machine?

It isn't just the new guys that can do this. Anyone who isn't involved with the project/job can bring that insight.

I tested this by making my vac fixture without any clearance between the part and plate. I just made the grooves for the O-ring and the vac port leaving a facemilled surface. I put a part on the fixture, pulled 27"s of vacuum, and then pushed the part off the fixture without much effort. Next I cut .005" of clearance in my plate leaving the minimum of islands to support my part, put a part on, pulled 27"s of vacuum, and tried to push the part off, but wasn't able to. After this test I concluded you do want some clearance between the part and vac plate as it does make a big difference in how well you hold your parts. The part was a 9" x 12" sheet of 3/4" thick polyethelene. I do love vacuum workholding but think custom fixtures made specifically for the part is the only way to go. Or start with a big flat plate with one vac port in the middle and cut some rubber sheet to fit your part and go. This is my go to for short runs but you will need a higher flow pump and larger coolant separating tank as this method doesn't seal as well as O-rings.

We have this very same machine, which was delivered and commissioned three weeks ago. I am now making chips. It’s a super machine.

Absolutely Love this! I have a small shop and echo Jay's comments. This should be a thoughtful process as always. Great video!

very well said actually

How is the VM3s thermal stability in Z axis? I've heard with the finer pitch ball screws that it varies as much as .007" from cold to warm...

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Lots of potential for cosine error to become relevant here with the mounting method. Probe calibration also going to play a significant role.

Always loved this idea -- as soon as we saw you doing this a few years back we bought one of those Amazon motorized winches so ours has a little pendant to move up and down.

First, I admire and respect your accomplishments, your a smart cookie. This is just factual info that may or may not be applicable depending on your level of accuracy. Even leaning against the machine's front will move your machines tram because of the way the sheet metal is attached, i have many NC's a few different brands. Don't believe me , put a tenths indicator from spindle to table or vise and watch the needle move as you put your weight leaning against the front of the machine. Hanging over 200 lbs from the sheet metal may be moving your machine out of TRAM. Just info.

Inspiring. Bravo for paying it forward to the youth.