Are New Milwaukee FORGE Batteries 50% Better? We Put Them to the TEST!

[@LeeTillbury]

Just when you think you've got the ultimate they launch something to persuade you otherwise 😂

[@MachineryNation]

Always the way 👍🏼

[@WillDavies37]

Great video showcasing these new batteries chaps! I’ve had a Milwaukee 9” cut off saw for about 6 months. Bought to replace an AC 9” angle grinder. I use it most days on various masonry/concrete tasks. Originally running two 8.0a HO batteries. I was fairly underwhelmed by its performance due to the batteries overheating quickly under continuous load, I certainly wouldn’t bother cutting a line in concrete but fine for blocks and slabs. When the 12a forge landed I thought it might be a better way to go with the cooling technology on the batteries and new super charger. Bit of a pill to swallow the price but there’s an absolute night and day difference. These new batteries really do unlock a lot more potential from high draw tools. The cut off saw now performs as well as an AC equivalent. The 2 batteries will easily cut 4 meters of 3” concrete no problem. For DIYers or occasional use the price jump from HO to forge probably isn’t worth it. But for self employed professionals who need performance tools to work hard, these batteries are really worth every penny.

[@rowankeltizar5961]

There are lots of deals right now. Buy a 12ah forge and get an 8 "for free". 250$

[@user-ei7px4eo9q]

You should know: the Milwaukee batteries (not Forge, but whatever came before - and maybe Forge fixes this well known issue) will not take a charge and require an involved fix that's beyond what most consumers are prepared to so own their own. I'll not detail the problem as the internet has an extensive records of the problem where users must open the batteries and charge, or balance, the internals so that they will take a charge. This kind of error is unacceptable, or course, and regardless of how well the tool works if the battery gives this much trouble it's wise to avoid Milwaukee entirely. Their customer service tells me I can print free shipping returns labels via their website, as long as the battery is within warranty (I think this was one or two years). There needs to be more focus on how well these batteries hold up, because replacing them is very expensive.

[@garyradtke3252]

It would be helpful to know the remainder of the battery capacities after the test run. I might assume the Forge would have more left because it gets through the work faster but that might not be true.

[@keithpeterson6108]

I was looking to buy a few new batteries tomorrow & and I was wondering the exact thing this video tested. Thank you for this info! 👍

[@MachineryNation]

Ideal, perfect timing 🙌🏻

[@timvanschubert3177]

Run time. 12ah vs 6ah.

[@MachineryNation]

Sorry we don’t have the 12ah, will see what I can do 👍🏼

[@Kostaslilis13]

What about the rotary hammers

[@MachineryNation]

Unfortunately we don’t have one to hand 👍🏼

[@Kostaslilis13]

@@MachineryNation maybe in the future if you get your hands in one, make a video about it

[@jossmith1990]

🤩 nice job!

[@MachineryNation]

Thanks it’s was a bit choppy in places

[@markonurmi5479]

Forge has more power and punch but you don't always need that...for example 12a battery should have more Wh to spare and that's good with lights and lawnmowers...

[@MachineryNation]

Interesting point. Yeah you don’t always need the power, for those who do it shows that they are more capable I guess.

[@Gyppor]

I'd like to have seen a comparison with the 6.0 high output and their slightly higher rated cells compared to the 8.0.

[@MachineryNation]

I don’t think they don’t make a 6ah high output. Do you mean a different battery?

[@georgedavall9449]

Cheers !!!!!!!

[@NHmad]

Hi james great video i know this is very out the blue but what would you say is the best sawhorse for cutting logs on the market?

[@primelricafrente]

Cool. Is it possible to test with 12ah forge?

[@MachineryNation]

We haven’t got any but can certainly look into it 👍🏼

[@primelricafrente]

@MachineryNation cool thanks. Let see if it is a overkill for 12ah or 8ah forge will do the work already. Size, price and weight of those 2 forge also matters. Cheers from AKL NZ

[@THEBEARDEDTOOLGUY]

​@@primelricafrenteHave the 12 AMP FORGE BATTERY and it runs like a 60/54 volt FLEX VOLT top of the line 21700 cell battery

[@alexcody1319]

they got a 12 amp hour forge

[@user-ld6wo4rv8h]

Your first test was severely flawed. The expected order of performance should be 1. Forge 8.0 Ah 2. Forge 6.0 Ah or 12 Ah HO (difference not significant) 3. 8.0Ah HO. This can easily be predicted just from knowledge of which cells are inside and their max amp output. At that point, it becomes a matter of what the tools can draw. Anyways, you can see that the 12Ah got caught twice during its run. The Forge 6.0Ah got stuck twice. The 8Ah HO had a clean run. Effectively, all would have done the test in about 9 seconds if they had a clean run. The circuitry of that particular tool likely limits the current intake from those 3 batteries such that they all essentially perform the same. The Forge 8.0 would be the one exception where the tool can draw more from it due to the cooler running.

[@tgsgardenmaintenance4627]

Currently have 8.o high output batteries for my Milwaukee brushcutter. Runtime is about 20mins, would like that to be a bit longer, what would you recommend?

[@merkn247]

12.0 HO or forger they will both have more runtime than your 8. Hd has a buy 12.0 amp forge get 8.0 forge free

[@hakz1nunke]

The AH rating for a battery will tell you it's run time. The only way up from an 8.0 is to a 12.0, but I'd go with the Forge as they are the same price as the high output, and the old HO 12.0 is known to drop cells and not give a complete charge after a while. Like merkin247 said, I also just ordered a 12.0 Fordge from HD and they are giving away an 8.0 forge free with it. Great deal.

[@shaun30-3-mg9zs]

Hi James + Josh, Good battery review, my be try it against a Milwaukee mains powered drill Shame that no one has made a petrol powered drill, that would be some drill........... As always a great review video, catch you soon Take care

[@anthonyturner5319]

Stihl make one mate

[@MachineryNation]

Great idea, thanks Shaun 👍🏼

[@shaun30-3-mg9zs]

@@anthonyturner5319 Bang goes my idea, Stihl has made one. Thanks mate😁👍

[@DMTearKnee]

It's the weight of the battery effecting the track saw test.

[@MachineryNation]

Possible a marginal difference, but no getting away from the fact the forge is more powerful 👍🏼

[@CA34562]

Thanks guys, appreciate the video! Could I suggest adding the times onto the screen as you're doing the tests? I kept forgetting what each batteries time was.

[@MachineryNation]

Do you mean what the previous time was from its competitor?

[@brunngraggan679]

@@MachineryNation Thank you for the test! I would too like to see times for each battery & tests written down (now on this page, but it would be better to have put them in the video)

[@CA34562]

⁠@@MachineryNationa live table format stapled to the screen with the times added as you go would be great. Makes it easier to navigate while watching. Aka; 8amp high output - ‘x’ time 12amp high output - ‘x’ time 8amp forge - ‘x’ time 12amp forge - ‘x’ time Love the videos either way 👍

[@merkn247]

That 6.0 forget destroyed the 12.0 power wise we know the 12.0 has more runtime

[@DJC995]

Smoking review🔥🔥 Nice one Guys Thanks again

[@MachineryNation]

Haha, thanks Darran 👍🏼

[@davidfisher3273]

Don’t tell the operator which battery there’re using

[@chrisschrader1499]

the 12.0 was slower in the track saw because your pulling more weight. also the way the string slides on the end of the track isn't consistent. could use a pully or bearing

[@sethhovey8227]

We dont talk about the 9 AHs... lol

[@MachineryNation]

Hahaha

[@fedgshhsgdjk]

I’ve heard so many negatives about the 9’s. I’ve had mine for 7 years while every other battery style i own from Milwaukee has substantially dropped off in less time. What is the common issue with them?

[@sethhovey8227]

@@fedgshhsgdjk A lot of them died prematurely, enough they issued a recall several years ago.

[@happyhippr]

youve gotta use the spikes with the chainsaw to get the full power out

[@josephmartin2362]

Should also be a fresh chain on each test. No allowance for chain dulling.

[@mikev.1034]

It’s not science, the bigger batteries, weight more than the smaller batteries

[@MachineryNation]

The 6ah forge is pretty much half the weight of the 12ah HO but preforms the same 👍🏼

[@shinigamigamingincYT]

wtf is with this audio, its all left. This hurts.

[@marccadec6978]

That chainsaw is struggling and sounds painful. Smoking Milwaukee's,I have seen a grinder and a drill armature catch fire. I use the Bosch pro core,I can get a whole day out of one battery.

[@TacticalThib]

save your money buy the original high output batterie's