Machining Parts for a Robotic Welding Machine on the Horizontal Boring Mill - Manual Machining

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Topper Machine LLC

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@xmrgwxw3474
@xmrgwxw3474 7 ай бұрын
When I saw that new caliper I could not help but think about Crocodile Dudee and his knife. Congrats on the great find!
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek 8 ай бұрын
The Hall of the Mountain King seems to be very appropriate for the Lucas Boring Mill! 🙂 That huge face mill is perfect for the job. My 5 year old German Shepherd Dog, Halgrim, watches your videos, Kurtis' and Karin's videos and a few other machining videos with me. He seemed to like the big mill, just like we all do. Thanks for another excellent video, Josh.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! I am glad you both liked it. I had fun with the music, and could not be happier with the outcome. It almost seemed like the tempo and everything was spot on for that segment. I was actually laughing pretty hard while editing it. German Shepherds are the best dog. I miss mine terribly, she was such a big baby, but super smart.
@kd5byb
@kd5byb 8 ай бұрын
Totally agree!!!
@kd5byb
@kd5byb 8 ай бұрын
And the timing was IMPECCABLE!!!
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
@@kd5byb I worked a bit to time that ending. Lol
@kd5byb
@kd5byb 8 ай бұрын
@@TopperMachineLLCAnd it shows! Great job! :)
@warrenjones744
@warrenjones744 8 ай бұрын
Never enough horizontal boring mill work work on You Tube. Glad to see you doing your part Josh. The HBM is such a wonderful and versatile machine. As are the Verticals. I wish there were more vids with verticals working, but they seem to be sort of rare. Not to mention most of the ones I have seen in the wild are big and in shops where video is frowned upon. The Big Starrett 123's are sweet eh? I would say you got a good deal on that. Well done!
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
I have a bunch of jobs coming up on the HBM. I would love a 54" VBM or VTL, but there just isn't the room or work for one in this region.
@curtisroberts9137
@curtisroberts9137 8 ай бұрын
I think you have the best collection of cool machines on the ol' KZbins. It's great to see all the different kinds of work being done on manual machines.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Thank you. I've built my business based on what I see needs for, and it's brought in some great machines. Stay tuned, more great stuff coming.
@Narwaro
@Narwaro 8 ай бұрын
Many people think when they start out that the biggest cost will be tooling and machines. Machines is probably the cheapest if you buy used. But many people underestimate the cost of measurement instruments. Sometimes you just have to buy it for a job that isnt even worth that in the short run
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
The machine is the cheapest thing you will ever buy. Just in tooling and measuring tools, I have probably well over a half million invested to get to this point. It is crazy.
@wald-meister6705
@wald-meister6705 8 ай бұрын
Abom79 channel sucks because it's only a show. Your channel is much more interesting because it's honest daily machinist work .👍
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Thanks. I feel bad for him. He worked so hard to get to the top, and seems to have lost his way.
@kennethstaszak9990
@kennethstaszak9990 8 ай бұрын
@@TopperMachineLLC I feel the same way about Fireball Tools. He used to build stuff but more and more turned into advertising his business. I have no problem with that per se but it's not what I started watching his channel for.
@steveshopworxmachine5716
@steveshopworxmachine5716 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely spot on. He is just a shill now for whoever will give him free stuff. His channel is dying fast according to social blade. Here, Cutting Edge, and Keith Fenner are my top channels because it's about the work not advertising.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
@@kennethstaszak9990 I don't watch much of his stuff. The last video I watched was with the 3 shops doing that frame and how he basically said they did crap work and needed his fixture table. I see the advantage to the table, but he was being an arrogant A$$.
@wald-meister6705
@wald-meister6705 8 ай бұрын
@@TopperMachineLLC We have a saying here in Germany: If you aim high, you often fall low.
@george-b3i-d2d
@george-b3i-d2d 8 ай бұрын
hey Flex Arm people this machinist is the real deal hook him up with a Flex Arm tapping system.. he will do more with it than the other guy!!!
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
I have no need for that contraption. The radial drill does the same job at a fraction of the cost.
@felderup
@felderup 8 ай бұрын
@@TopperMachineLLC and with enough scrap... diy if it ever is needed.
@wallbawden5511
@wallbawden5511 8 ай бұрын
have to agree that other Guy doesn't even use it i no not how he funds it but the tooling alone would be enough to break you and this other guy broke a few of them in setting it up the other guy his videos are not worth watching anymore and that's fact
@bostedtap8399
@bostedtap8399 8 ай бұрын
Nice clean fabrications, perfect HBM/Horizontal Facing Mill work. Set up is king as always Josh. Thanks for sharing
@jayminor9757
@jayminor9757 8 ай бұрын
Great video Josh! The boring mill is never boring. Both you and Brian Block put them to great use. Thanks
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@geckoproductions4128
@geckoproductions4128 8 ай бұрын
Abom is jealous of your caliper. Nice video, thanks
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
I am sure he is. Maybe someday he can see them in person.
@retorq
@retorq 4 ай бұрын
Gotta love it ... Hand making parts to build a machine so you don't have to hand weld!!
@Rustinox
@Rustinox 8 ай бұрын
Of course, with Peer Gynt in the background, it's even more enjoyable to watch. And I also like your pedal reverse system on the drill press. That's handy.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
I bought that drill set up like that. It has been a life saver. So handy.
@peteengard9966
@peteengard9966 8 ай бұрын
That mill is a beast of a machine. Nice calipers. Needs lifting eyes on it. LOL.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
It sure is heavy. Lol
@ChristopherWilson-h7g
@ChristopherWilson-h7g 8 ай бұрын
When you measure with the huge calipers…or any calipers for that matter…make sure they are square on the work piece. When you did that very first measurement, they were askew. Sure hope you measured more carefully before actually cutting. 😳 Very cool tools!!!! Love that you are doing actual down and dirty, real world customer work in your shop…not just spending 70 episodes to hack…I mean build…a certain clamping device that rhymes with “rice”…as a sales bump for another KZbinr. Keep it real!
@garybrenner6236
@garybrenner6236 8 ай бұрын
That has to be a tricky job because you are relying on the fabricator to give you enough length to work with. As a machinist myself, I truly enjoy you and Cutting Edge in Australia because you guys are true working machinists, not machine tool collectors like many other sites that have lots of machines, but very little skills on how to use them.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
He fabs them to print, which gives and extra 1/8" on each end. Plenty of meat to clean up.
@luksan_swe
@luksan_swe 8 ай бұрын
What is the tolerance on the holes on the center plate with regards to being in centered between the ends of the post? Do you have to trim both ends equally on those?
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
@@luksan_swe Ends machined to spec length, holes on center plate off one finished end.
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop 8 ай бұрын
Those are certainly some serious calipers. Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.
@StuartsShed
@StuartsShed 8 ай бұрын
MONSTER FACE MILL! I love it. I was in awe of that.........until the big Starrett came out. Now THAT thing is a monster.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
What can I say, I have big tools. Lol
@StuartsShed
@StuartsShed 8 ай бұрын
😂😂
@donshaffer9733
@donshaffer9733 8 ай бұрын
Like the content Josh I'm an old journeyman machinist myself....thanks my friend brings back memories for me...
@BrucePierson
@BrucePierson 8 ай бұрын
The horizontal boring mill sure is versatile. Being able to mill and drill accurately.
@iandibley8032
@iandibley8032 8 ай бұрын
That Lucas borer is a very versatile piece of equipment ,I would happy to have a Lucas in my shop.
@stevechambers9166
@stevechambers9166 8 ай бұрын
Nicely done josh good score on that caliper
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Thanks. I'm super happy with it.
@kristyskirt9015
@kristyskirt9015 8 ай бұрын
Wow Mr. Topper; Besides super machining, you have good humor too. Loved the classical music. Take care.
@kd5byb
@kd5byb 8 ай бұрын
I'm reminded of the Crocodile Dundee movie scene where he exclaims: "that's not a knife. THIS IS A KNIFE." Holding my 6" caliper...Josh holding his 74" caliper says: "That's not a caliper...THIS IS A CALIPER!" hahahaha! nice video love the horizontal boring mill!!!
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
I had that same thought. Lol.
@alanm3438
@alanm3438 8 ай бұрын
The crane sure has come in handy. I have never seen a caliper that big. What a great video. It reminds me of when I had a job. You are always interesting and informative.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
They have both paid for themselves over and over.
@steveshopworxmachine5716
@steveshopworxmachine5716 8 ай бұрын
It might be worth mentioning to your viewers that anchor lube can be thinned with water to use as a more traditional coolant.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
yes. I have also thinned and used as a mist. More experimenting is needed there, but it worked great for the application and less toxic than the Koolmist.
@alwayssearching1882
@alwayssearching1882 6 ай бұрын
Well done Mr. T.
@number2664
@number2664 8 ай бұрын
I’ve used a 60” calliper before, not keen on its weight but it’s the way it is. The current job has a carbon fibre 60” one, way way lighter. Not sure of the price but I think you want to find a good second hand one or win lotto first. Nice job, first thought was looks like a CNC job to me haha. Boring mill is paying its way though.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Carbon fiber would be awesome. But, I am happy with my heavy beast. This job came from a CNC shop. They couldn't handle it. Not a big enough machine.
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 8 ай бұрын
Good Morning Josh, always great to see the Horizontal in Action.......cheers from an old guy in Orlando, Paul
@KALGSO
@KALGSO 8 ай бұрын
It’s so cool how sucj]h a giant piece of measuring equipment could actually be effected simply by holding onto it too long!! That thing is AWESOME!! A word actually worthy for once!!
@eyuptony
@eyuptony 8 ай бұрын
Great to watch some alternative machining.👍
@jimmysurfed
@jimmysurfed 8 ай бұрын
Those calipers are awesome!
@pastortomolson
@pastortomolson 8 ай бұрын
What a great old machine.
@wallbawden5511
@wallbawden5511 8 ай бұрын
Now that's a set of calipers for sure i am glad i did not have to pay for those ones that's for sure nice work there pleasure to watch Cheers
@donteeple6124
@donteeple6124 8 ай бұрын
Josh, This one was a GREAT presentation........videography, execution, instruction, editing.....all very very good, I especially noted the background music at 14:00 to 15:55 and the timing being exactly on with your actions......THAT was a great touch.....skills like you have are few n far between and almost never commended......weather here now is in the 40's and what little snow we had remaining is melting fast, especially with the light rain.....maple syrup boys are screaming bloody murder the seasons been so screwy.....I for one am enjoying NOT having to plow and freeze my bippy off....know you are too.....Keep up these great vids.....I know they are an additional bunch of work to do on top of the project itself...I went back and looked to see if you mentioned what type of steel this was, Im assuming it was just regular 1018 or such and also what RPM you were using on the huge face mill.....gonna so enjoy seeing your shop and set up myself 1st hand this summer when I get to visit...... Don
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Don. I wish my lighting here was better, but will make that change soon enough. I am definitely loving this weather. Getting a ton of stuff done outside yet. Material was all A36, so nothing special. I have a follow up video for mid week on this one.
@fricknjeep
@fricknjeep 8 ай бұрын
hi there you do nice work , way above my brain grade ,
@MrC867
@MrC867 8 ай бұрын
Very nice Staying glued
@funone8716
@funone8716 8 ай бұрын
Hope your wife appreciates your large tools as much as us machinists do. Seems like the starrett has short jaws for it's size. Years ago I got a 51 inch "Cal-extender" at auction for $100, came with a B&S 6" caliper, works pretty well. Not in the same category as your starrett tho.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Nothing she would measure is that big. LOL. I've been happy with this purchase, but I do wonder now if a Cal-extender would have worked.
@MrMojolinux
@MrMojolinux 8 ай бұрын
Edvard Grieg (Peer Gynt Suite) "In the Hall of the Mountain King" background music. Just like the gnomes and trolls used to play when working.😊
@GardenTractorBoy
@GardenTractorBoy 8 ай бұрын
This was an interesting project and it was great to follow along, thanks
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@dutchgray86
@dutchgray86 8 ай бұрын
My biggest Vernier Caliper is in the 50" range, an old British made one, not as nice as that Starrett but it only cost me a couple hundred pounds. It covers anything I could get onto the Bridgport mill so I won't need bigger.
@johnanderson-lb9zi
@johnanderson-lb9zi 8 ай бұрын
Josh as always I love your channel. I dont know what it is about you but in your personality you have something unique. Maybe its just that you are who you are. Nothing fancy but you get the Job done through hard work. It is my hope that you stay busy and have great success!!! I just may call you and stop by some day!!!!
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Thank you. Even if I am not busy, I will not give up. I enjoy what I do, and get such a variety. Feel free to call, visit by appointment. I am out frequently on oddball jobs.
@nschelling6420
@nschelling6420 8 ай бұрын
Thumbs up on the music LOL! Can’t help but compare the operation of your HBM to mine. I’m just a clumsy rookie so I’m not near as handy with mine as you are with yours. I see your Lucas must have the spindle drive and feeds off the same motor if the feed chart shows feed rate per spindle revolution? Mine has 2 separate motors so feeds are all in inches per minute. To me it seems the feed rate per revolution is little more practical. Another note. My mill has a F/R clutch for the spindle. Also there is a high/low spindle speed selector right on the head. So it works so nice to drill the hole in high, then swap the drill for a tap, switch to low, and tap the hole. The spindle drive clutch seems to have been made with tapping in mind, it is so user friendly.
@jackheath6623
@jackheath6623 8 ай бұрын
HBM is my favorite machine tool.
@ElmerJFudd-oi9kj
@ElmerJFudd-oi9kj 8 ай бұрын
Max Grant watches you too he says, all in the machining family.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Max is a great guy. I would love to have a sit down meeting with him someday. So much knowledge that he could share.
@randydobson1863
@randydobson1863 8 ай бұрын
hello Josh & it's is Randy and i like yours video is cool & Thanks Josh & Friends Randy
@frankerceg4349
@frankerceg4349 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Josh!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 ай бұрын
Good one Josh . I am after a similar size face mill , hard to find at the right price ! Lol , those vernier calipers just about need an eye bolt to lift them ! Cheers 👍
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
I got this one from CME Tools. Not sure if they ship to Australia, but it's a lot closer to China than we are. Lol. This caliper is a beast.
@gofastwclass
@gofastwclass 8 ай бұрын
Now THOSE are calipers! I always wondered how machinists would measure their children's growth.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
LOL!!! That would be funny.
@bostedtap8399
@bostedtap8399 8 ай бұрын
Great comment 👍
@BrucePierson
@BrucePierson 8 ай бұрын
That would be the biggest Vernier I've ever seen. Looks like it weighs a bit too. No doubt they come larger than that as well. Makes my small Vernier look microscopic.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
They do make bigger!!! I wasn't quite expecting this when it arrived, I thought it would be a lighter rail like the 48"
@brentwoods5108
@brentwoods5108 8 ай бұрын
Good old left hand Lucas..ran one many years ago at Kearney Trecker in West Allis, Wisconsin. Started there in the late 60's. At the time K & T had several Giddings & Lewis 5" & 6" & my favorite was the Bullard 5" horizontal mill. Great old machines, they outlast most NC machines. Should have mlled one edge on each end plate to use as alignment , ha4d to get parallel using extruded tube.?
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Tubes were a lot closer than anyone thinks. Close enough to stay well within tolerance.
@edsmachine93
@edsmachine93 8 ай бұрын
Nice work Josh. I really like seeing the HBM action. Was a nice job for sure. Have a great weekend.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@richardabner9420
@richardabner9420 8 ай бұрын
Caliper Envy !
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
It is a beauty!
@richardabner9420
@richardabner9420 8 ай бұрын
I see a used one on ebay currently!
@BrucePierson
@BrucePierson 8 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to see these parts installed on the robotic welding machine to see what it looks like. But I guess you won't get to see that or get photos or video back when it's all set up.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, this is all the info I get on these. That's just how this business goes. Sometimes I have no clue what it is even for.
@arthurjennings5202
@arthurjennings5202 5 ай бұрын
Great matching the theme music with facing the part. Are you sure you didn't work in film?
@MWL4466
@MWL4466 8 ай бұрын
Nice ! We make an exact same part where i work. Gotta love the Lucas HBM but man i hate those big heavy calipers huh ?!? Oh well...deal with it. Cheers from Canada.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
I don't mind the caliper, it's just another great tool in the arsenal 😁
@dirtfarmer7472
@dirtfarmer7472 8 ай бұрын
I think that I have watched 2-3 of your videos now, I do appreciate what & how you do things. Now I have 2-3 questions 1 how old is this machine & 2 what are these parts going to be used for, now last where is your shop, I’m from Oklahoma so that’s why I talk funny. Thank you Sir
@terrycannon570
@terrycannon570 8 ай бұрын
Yes I love the content.
@EnricoMarangonJunior
@EnricoMarangonJunior 8 ай бұрын
Great Video ! Thanks
@usaerospace6707
@usaerospace6707 8 ай бұрын
Which machine do you use the most in your shop.
@don1031
@don1031 Ай бұрын
I am learning a great deal from your channel. You seem very careful with expenses so I trust that achieving this kind of precision is worth it for this task. But it is hard for me as someone who works primarily with wood, to get my head around paying that much -- even with a great ebay deal -- to achieve it. So I find myself wondering how much less accurate a good tape measure is than your caliper? Thanks in advance for any insight you can offer.
@wakkawakka121
@wakkawakka121 8 ай бұрын
Is that Tchaikovsky in the background?
@col2lin
@col2lin 8 ай бұрын
I was going to ask you what they are for, then I read your notes. Interesting. I take it that they just can't compleate the whole job. Could you have done everything from start to finish?
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
I could have done the entire job, welding and all. But their in-house welder needs stuff to do too.
@alex4alexn
@alex4alexn 8 ай бұрын
great vids, cheers buddy
@walteraddie7925
@walteraddie7925 8 ай бұрын
Very nice work. I would like to suggest you get a leather weight lifters belt to help with your back. I wear one all day and have for the past 10 years. It has solved 90 percent of my back pains and cut the cost of gallons of ibuprofen. I am not a doctor but it works. You would not be out a big cost if it doesn't work well for you but I suffered with back pains for 30 years. My relief was noticed within hours.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
I don't lift a lot. These weren't that heavy to get to the table, but the crane saves the back for getting them to the setup. I have considered the belt idea, and may get one to try anyway.
@Farmersamm
@Farmersamm 8 ай бұрын
Excellent caliper. I like that it has a .050 vernier scale, instead of a .025 scale. The smaller scale is too doggone hard to read. Between error introduced when they cut the tubing, and weld distortion...........you had quite a job cut out for you.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
The 0.050 scale is the reason I went with the Starrett 123. I actually replaced my 24" with a 123 so I could read it. This job really wasn't that bad. Actually quite easy, just a lot of heavy lifting.
@StuartsShed
@StuartsShed 8 ай бұрын
Bloody depth micrometers still nearly catch me out from time to time with the backwards measurement. I have to pay close attention. Well - that's a good habit to be in anyway.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
After a couple messed up parts, I am super cautious about it. I've even gone as far as double checking with a caliper. Lol
@blitzkrueg07
@blitzkrueg07 8 ай бұрын
I did a set very similar to this almost same size and 3 foot. length print said +/- .003 on length. So I tack welded them all together we had a specialty grinding shop my friend worked at and they Blanchard ground to length. When I delivered, they said I was the only one to make to print as they always needed shims.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Man, that had to get expensive. I send some smaller stuff out for blanchard grinding and they rape me. These are +/- 0.005 and I have been holding right at finished length +/- 0.002. My customer has been thrilled.
@blitzkrueg07
@blitzkrueg07 8 ай бұрын
@TopperMachineLLC my friend, owned the place charged me 150. 50 an hour. Their tall machine never saw much work and he did it on Sunday and 35 years ago
@kennethstaszak9990
@kennethstaszak9990 8 ай бұрын
A question if you please. Why not use a spiral flute tap to prevent the shavings from getting inside the tubes when you tap the center holes of the side plates?
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
because I am not clamping the tube down. If I were to take the time to bolt it to the radial drill, then I could use a spiral flute tap.
@stevevogelman3360
@stevevogelman3360 8 ай бұрын
What are these columns for?
@PREracing25
@PREracing25 8 ай бұрын
Anchor Lube really is an amazing product. Learn of it from Adam Booth and I love using it.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
I have been extremely pleased with it.
@topduk
@topduk 8 ай бұрын
Sponsored... From what I've read there's a much cheaper generic.
@PREracing25
@PREracing25 8 ай бұрын
​@@topduk It works for me and I'm definitely not sponsored. It's also not super expensive but I guess that is up for debate depending what someone thinks is expensive.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
@@PREracing25 by the gallon, it's very inexpensive. The benefits of it, outweigh the cost in my book. Cost of doing business. A good product is worth the expense
@TheAyrCaveShop
@TheAyrCaveShop 8 ай бұрын
I've seen the 48" calipers but had no idea they made 72" Wow
@richardabner9420
@richardabner9420 8 ай бұрын
another great video.
@steamtrainmaker
@steamtrainmaker 8 ай бұрын
Hi Reaching over the table so far , why not set up bit close to home. Like the caliper good price as well. Steve
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
I just prefer to use the center of the table. The saddle of the machine sticks out as far as the table in that position and wouldn't change anything as far as the reach.
@missamo80
@missamo80 8 ай бұрын
8:33 Holy crap that's the longest caliper I've ever seen. Wow! How often do you have to pull that out? 9:04 Wait what? There's a longer one? 😲 I looked it up, a new 123Z-72 costs $19,681.00 😳😳😳 Wow.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Since I don't do much small stuff, I use them both a lot.
@missamo80
@missamo80 8 ай бұрын
@@TopperMachineLLC Super cool. I had no idea they make them that big, and the wood case is neat too.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
@@missamo80 they make bigger one too, but I had no real need for that. Yet.
@jrmintz1
@jrmintz1 8 ай бұрын
Noob question: I notice you don't wait for the face mill to go completely across the surface, only the leading edge. That makes sense, I was wondering if there are situations where it would be important to wait for the trailing edge to go across? Thanks, and I love your videos.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
It all depends on your application and setup. On this machine, it really doesn't matter. On a knee mill that the head swivels, sometimes you are not trammed right and need to follow through.
@jrmintz1
@jrmintz1 8 ай бұрын
@@TopperMachineLLC Thank you.
@dcraft1234
@dcraft1234 8 ай бұрын
Do you consider making jigs for your repeat work, or is it not worth it?
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
I do, if the job warrants. This job didn't, but I did make one tool that will be on Tuesdays video. It is multi purpose for any future jobs also. Plan ahead on some stuff.
@world_still_spins
@world_still_spins 8 ай бұрын
If I had a set of calipers that size, I would make a sign out sheet even if I was the only one using the calipers.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Lol. They are locked away in a secret location, only brought out for certain occasions.
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 8 ай бұрын
Any room in the arbor for the mill for an ER32 taper? That'd hold all the hole-making tools for this job at least.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Drill chuck is faster to swap out. I have several ER40 to MT holders and they are used for other things.
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 8 ай бұрын
@@TopperMachineLLC I mean, could you put an ER32 nose on the end of the stub in the center of your mill arbor?
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
@@jimsvideos7201 no, it would never fit. There isn't enough depth for it. It isnt that bad to do what I've been doing. Good exercise, lol
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 8 ай бұрын
@@TopperMachineLLC Ok, thank you for the reply.
@dmscheidtify
@dmscheidtify 8 ай бұрын
Why not set the job up closer to the edg of the table, so you don't have use the crane?
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
The saddle still sticks out further than the table. I'd still have to reach.
@richardabner9420
@richardabner9420 8 ай бұрын
Why are only specific holes drilled and reamed and others only drilled?
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Reamed holes are for locating dowels. Drilled holes are for bolts.
@richardabner9420
@richardabner9420 8 ай бұрын
is there an advantage to using a reamer over a drill, or visa versa?
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
@@richardabner9420 reamers finish perfect size for dowel pins.
@samrodian919
@samrodian919 7 ай бұрын
Josh is that Starrett calliper twenty grand new or second hand? If second hand then two grand was certainly a "Smoking deal" lol
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 7 ай бұрын
that was new price direct from Starrett.
@thesavage126
@thesavage126 5 ай бұрын
Those veneers would make Abom blush lol
@minigpracing3068
@minigpracing3068 8 ай бұрын
Abom envies your caliper! That must have been an expensive contract to allow you to buy that, I bet it wasn't cheap!
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
I got a great deal on it, as it was used. No way I could justify buying new.
@usaerospace6707
@usaerospace6707 8 ай бұрын
How do you hold parallelism between both ends. Or do you need too.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
It's all in the setup. Note the angle plates and 2-4-6 blocks.
@usaerospace6707
@usaerospace6707 8 ай бұрын
@@TopperMachineLLC What kind of tolerances do you have to hold on a weldment like that. +- .005, .010 or more than that after its machined.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
@@usaerospace6707 49.880 +/-0.005, but I was holding finished size of 49.880-49.882.
@Rigoknow
@Rigoknow 8 ай бұрын
👍
@gregeconomeier1476
@gregeconomeier1476 8 ай бұрын
"Everyone" on YT is using anchor lube these days. What happened to Tap Magic?
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
I still have a bottle of tap magic, but anchorlube works better in a lot of stuff.
@schism47
@schism47 8 ай бұрын
Well josh..... since you have the 72" starrett 123 you don't need your 48" caliper anymore...... wanna give it to me? Haha
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
LOL, Nope! It still gets used quite a bit.
@schism47
@schism47 8 ай бұрын
@TopperMachineLLC haha. I'm just joking around man. The 72" is beautiful man.
@george-b3i-d2d
@george-b3i-d2d 8 ай бұрын
have a give away.. guess the weight of the caliper... hope the cost of the beast was factored into the job 😵‍💫
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Cost of doing business. It was an investment to ensure future work.
@hersch_tool
@hersch_tool 8 ай бұрын
Ok, I'm sorry I had to back up the video just to confirm that I heard that right. $20K, for a caliper... B-A-N-A-N-A-S
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
You heard that correct. Glad I found a used one.
@asmithh2697
@asmithh2697 8 ай бұрын
Like!
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews 8 ай бұрын
Starrett should be embarrassed to ask 20k for those calipers. You will never convince me the overhead is so significant to warrant that kind of price delta.
@ForfeMac
@ForfeMac 8 ай бұрын
When it comes to specialty tools like that, they can charge virtually whatever they want, because there's almost nobody to compete with them, and if you need the tool, you need the tool.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
It is just the cost of doing business. I was lucky enough to score a used one, but if you need one you have to pay. This isn't a cheap business to be in.
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 8 ай бұрын
All that precision then they probably will set them on concrete. LOL
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Yes they do. They do have leveling bolts in the feet though.
@candicebeebe6688
@candicebeebe6688 8 ай бұрын
I love chips
@ElmerJFudd-oi9kj
@ElmerJFudd-oi9kj 8 ай бұрын
"Exacurate", is that even a word? it sounds good to me so it must be.
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 8 ай бұрын
Here I was thinking, what is he going to do, pull out a six foot vernier caliper? 😅
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Yup, lol.
@thefreedomwarrior
@thefreedomwarrior 8 ай бұрын
I love it when KZbinrs play a classical music piece for background.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
I wanted to do something different and that was the best I could come up with. Lol
@vendter
@vendter 8 ай бұрын
I hope you didn't have to buy a new 123Z-72. $20,000 is eye watering.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
It was used. I paid nowhere near that, but it was still a lot.
@ronsreadyornotshop
@ronsreadyornotshop 8 ай бұрын
what the heck is with the music?
@erik_dk842
@erik_dk842 8 ай бұрын
When 500% of the profit on the job goes to purchasing 74" vernier calipers. Could have been me, I even have expensive tools that I have purchased and never used.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
Cost of doing business. I would have lost out on this job and possibly lost a great repeat customer if I couldn't perform on these parts.
@erik_dk842
@erik_dk842 8 ай бұрын
@@TopperMachineLLC Yeah, swings and roundabouts. You have to average out the jobs each customer brings. But what do you do when they take the good jobs to someone else, and only leave you with the bad ones? Do you tell them each time you actually did them a favor, and the real standalone price should/would be much higher?
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
@@erik_dk842 I've been fortunate in the fact I live in an extremely depressed region and there is really nobody else to go to. That and my reputation is such that they don't want to lose me. I had one local shop try destroying me, it backfires on them. Their goal was to put me out of business so they could take my customers. Again, depressed region, not a lot of work. They lost a few of their customers to me because of it. So, I don't have much to worry about.
@TheUncleRuckus
@TheUncleRuckus 8 ай бұрын
Great video as always Josh thank you for uploading! 👍👍 Damn that 74" Starrett is beautiful! Super jealous right now lol. I'm a bit surprised you didn't mount a few of them to the bed of the Horizontal Mill since you had enough room to fit a few of them.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 8 ай бұрын
It's just easier to handle one at a time.
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