Macro Cinematography Experiment with Mindhunter and the Laowa Sword lenses - Test & Review

[@cammackey]

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[@MediaDivision]

Very glad you see it that way Magnolia - nothing greater than to inspire. Working hard on it but also have to feed kids, so this is why we can release more often.

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[@MediaDivision]

Thanks … very glad you feel that way about our work. With every episode that contains a product review, we try to do something that has value totally besides that… for us creating it, and for you watching it. Edutainment if you want to call it that way. Always happy when people see the educational value in it.

[@area51pictures]

My favorite channel tackles BOTH my favorite macro lenses AND MICRO LENSES? You sly bastard, Nicholas! Utterly magnifique. I never regret my Media Division membership, ever. Marie is both unidentifiable and positively gorgeous xD The big reveal was actually amazingly effective, even if I didn’t know ahead it was Marie. And dude! The level of that recreation is absolutely unreal, even while ball-parking it. My favorite thing is seeing where you chose to differ, and how fantastic the results were. The Donnie Darko voice “Come closer” KILLED ME too. AND DUDE. I HAVE NOT FOUND ANYONE CLEARLY DEMONSTRATE THE AUROGON RANGE specifically in the context of their normal macro lenses. Cannot tell you how many times I’ve tried to find that. Even Laowa’s own very excellent site doesn’t show them against their pre-existing macro line like this. Finally I can see how a 10X stacks against a regular 1:1 macro. I’ve owned Laowa’s 15mm f4 1:1 macro (their photography version, which I suppose now I ought to call the “liquid sword” in the spirit of the GZA) and that lens remains in the kit always, and the shift functionality always allowed for shots I couldn’t get elsewhere. Everyone on set who I show that to, not just camera team, but actors too, falls in love with it and its tiny size. So learning that they expanded and unified their photo macros into a full cine set (AND ADDED NEW FOCAL LENGTHS) was kind of a dream. I have been waiting for someone to do a terrific demo of this, and FUCK YES NO CHARTS. From the new set that 180mm absolutely astounds me, but all of them seem to match beautifully. I also am someone who believes true macro’s (with the insane level of detail and freedom of composition they provide) are amazingly underrated for portrait usage. The contax zeiss AEG 60mm 1:1 was another one I got turned onto after your Zeiss video, and that thing is a gorgeous portrait lens. In the Swords, I may spring for the 35 and the 180. I love how the 2:1 of their 100mm (an amazing now classic photography lens) functionally makes it feel like holding a virtual “200mm” lens, without having to change lenses in the bag again or use something crazy heavy. Laowa are my favorites of the new manufacturers because they’re true disruptors, targeting their niches carefully and precisely, before anyone else was doing it. Their pricing is never totally absurd, and their quality is always fantastic. There haven’t been any lenses yet I have not been able to cut them together with. And macros are their biggest original area of speciality. To have a full cine macro set with a comprehensive focal length set is fantastic. And another thing I want to highlight that I love here, the kind of thing that makes MD special- how you highlight the way things were done originally, and shout out the technicians who originally did them. I learned a lot of things about the Mindhunter intro I did not know about. And also, going back to the beginning and discussing To Kill a Mockingbird, its amazing to see the progression since then, and see the purity of that film’s usage of it. I always learn something here. And i never ever consider unsubscribing. Quality over quantity is the key to a large body of work, and over time, the tortoise wins the race. NERDELICIOUS WISHES AND once again CHEERS FROM LA - Soren

[@MediaDivision]

Soren… thank you so much for the super thanks and for your membership support… you make it possible and we salute you! Very happy you enjoy this video and the channel in general… that is what it is for. Of course you would recognise Frank… one of the most obscure but coolest characters in the cine history "Why are you waring that stupid man suit" is my favourite answer… on any question that is. Now, you seem to be an expert on this… happy I was able to ad something to that… I always learn a lot researching these episodes and find that very gratifying.… alwas happy to have you with me on that journey. Nerdalicious wishes from Hamburg!

[@ShibiChan]

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[@MediaDivision]

Very happy you feel that way about our work Shibi... trying to make this financially sustainable... got to feed kids

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Thanks man… glad you think so. It is our pleasure to do it for people as kind as you. Nice to have you around!

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[@MediaDivision]

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I could not agree more !!!

[@MediaDivision]

@@fauland_photography Awe… Peter, so nice of you

[@JanusCycle]

'tabletop', I just learned a new term! Thank you for this awesome look at professional level macro cinematography. Your shots of that Sony TC-510-2 are beautiful.

[@MediaDivision]

Thats what the people who do high end product photography call it… I was blessed to meet the best of the best in that realm. They always have amazing stories! Totally our pleasure Janus… very glad you like those!

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[@MediaDivision]

@@bigleafwoodcraft1453 Agreed... I get way to much trash. Eat more shit, a million flies can't be wrong. Luckily, there is a community that appreciates us and I am happy that you are a part of that. Greetings from Hamburg, birthplace of the global dietary crisis

[@f150terp]

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[@MediaDivision]

Thanks.... mine is the f0.3 one ;-) We would never bother you with something we didn't pour all of our heart in brains into. Very happy it works for you. Thanks for your kindness and for being around

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[@MediaDivision]

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[@MediaDivision]

Thanks Tom.... very glad you find our episodes useful.

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[@MediaDivision]

Thanks a lot Terence.... very happy you feel about our work in that way.

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[@MediaDivision]

Thanks a lot Keegs… we missed you tooooo ;-) there is more of this on our channel… way more. I would start with our episode "f0.7"… it's a bit older, but when you are into lenses it is a big one - or shall I say, a fast one.

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[@MediaDivision]

I wish... unfortunately it is not going to happen. We saturated our potential and growth became slow the last years. The higher end you go, the smaller the audience. But I rather produce for a small audience then to produce something I don't find inspiring.

[@awldune]

Just incredible results. It helps of course to have half a million in pro equipment, but you have to have the eye and the knowledge and skills to use them!

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks man… well, like we mention and show for the microphone shots you can do this with pop up displays and a mirrorless… except for the motion control shots, but there only 3 of those in Macrohunter. Don't be to impressed with the gear… sure, you do need the lenses!

[@tubevandaan]

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[@MediaDivision]

Thank you so much Daan... always heartwarming for us to be appreciated by the real professionals. Very glad you kept your passion alive.. this is how we trying to achieve that, too. Thanks for sharing and for being around. See you on IBC!

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[@MediaDivision]

Thanks Jose… nice to have you around. Always trying to put out something special worth your time.

[@MediaDivision]

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[@outdoorsinontario3037]

Wow! Macro hunter was amazing! Cool song choice

[@MediaDivision]

Cheers man... yeah.... Ian and Sivan did something pretty cool there

[@viktorsz]

after a minute of watching this i have goosebumps already!

[@MediaDivision]

Nice to hear... hope they stayed to the end. Thanks for watching Viktor

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[@MediaDivision]

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[@MediaDivision]

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[@MediaDivision]

As always our pleasure!! It is fun when people are as kind as you… thanks for being around

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[@MediaDivision]

Chers Morty… what is missing … is you!

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Best in the KZbin space, basically legit show that gets released on KZbin

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks Nicholas... now youtube has to finally understand that, too ;-)

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@ I’m gonna join the patreon or whatever monthly thing you got.

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[@MediaDivision]

Very happy you enjoy it it... thanks for your kindness and for being around. It is a joy to create for you.

[@danyforget1081]

Really nice work! Your shots are amazing and doing it with the skull was a really great idea. Thanks a lot for this video. We dont find a lot of macro cinematography video on youtube only on product photograpy unfortunately

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks Dan… appreciated. Thanks for your kindness and for being around. Yeah… thats why I thought it would be a good idea to make a litte something for you guys

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[@MediaDivision]

very happy it's for you!!! Thanks for hanging around

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[@MediaDivision]

informational art. I really like that description. Thank you for that! Love how you changed your viewing habits for this… thank you again. It's a bit sad how many don't get to see this because YoUtUbe doesn't seem to serve it like it should…I presume you are subscribed, Why didn't you notice this video earlier?

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Trying hard to be ;-) thanks man!

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This Deserves an Oscar

[@MediaDivision]

I am all for it ;-) Thanks man... really appreciate the motivator!!

[@ericdamario6795]

Amazing work as always... your pieces are equal parts stunning and informative which is a rare thing indeed. Just wanted to say thank you for the extensive test shots.... helped with the decision to pull the trigger on a full set. Cheers

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks Eric… glad that we could have been of help for your decision making. Really hope you have fun exploring the new possibilities.

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[@MediaDivision]

Thanks man… appreciated. Thank god we don't have to invest in equipment that much, because of our production quality we get a lot for free. The robots and the studios are not ours and we are very grateful that we can use them free of charge. The time I invest into these episodes… well, thats on another page.

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[@MediaDivision]

Thats 9.99$ Thank you Sir. Of course any occupation with this involvement has to be a business model, too. We get support from our Members, by KZbin Ad-Sense, and by the industry, that is why we have disclaimers in the episodes. I wish this would leave something so I could hire someone to do anything… unfortunately that is not the case. For our specific industry it doesn't make much sense either. Filmmaking is very international and everybody speaks english (well enough).

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[@MediaDivision]

Thanks man..... I hear that way to often. Always trying!

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[@MediaDivision]

Glad you enjoy it even from that perspective.... so many overlapping things... I learn a lot from photography channels, too, so kudos that you peak over the horizon. Nice to have you around and thanks for watching

[@b-camaks785]

Just wanted to add to the conversation of cinema lenses with macro capabilities. I have a set of Zeiss Standard Speed MK2’s. I had Duclos modify the 3 wider lenses (16, 24, and 32) to have macro capability. They adjusted the hard stops on the focus ring, so when you hit minimum focus, the rings won’t stop, they will rotate for 3 more revolutions, making them macro. AC’s hate them because auto calibrating motors is a pain, and also after minimum focus the witness marks are useless. But I love the feature and use it all the time. Just wanted to make you aware of the ability to mod (at least some) lenses. Love the channel, thanks.

[@MediaDivision]

Interesting... I am no lens designer, but I was told that the reason you can't do that with many lenses is the floating element. Your standard speeds seem to have no floating elements. Of course, with a lens not being optimised for short focus, the optical performance will drop after the hard stop - given the situation that might not matter much.

[@b-camaks785]

⁠@@MediaDivisionInteresting to hear about the floating element (or lack there of) being why this mod is possible. I wasn’t even aware it was an option until I brought my lenses in to be serviced. When I brought them in, they asked me if I would like the mod done. They said it was a feature a lot of people get done on their standard speeds, so I went ahead and had it done. Not sure what other lenses this would be possible for. Image quality does degrade when getting into the macro world, but it would also suffer if I were to use a diopter for the same effect, so it’s not really a net loss in the grand scheme of things.

[@albinliungman1093]

Wow. That sequence was amazing. Gave me very James Bond intro vibes. Great job again. Absolutely too tier

[@MediaDivision]

totally... it's the music... a gothic version of bond in a black latex suit ;-) Thanks man.. glad you enjoy.

[@scottzorro]

Fabulous production- entertaining & informative- your presenting skills are great (I’m sure the accent adds a few points too!) Thanks for sharing- I too have a very old human skull which I inherited ahead of my studies (dentistry) - bravo 👏🏻!

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks man... my pleasure. I always thought the accent is a minus. So, you got have a skull, too.... actually.... two skulls total then ;-) Mine wouldn't help with your studies.... no teeth

[@scottzorro]

@@MediaDivision The accent is subtle enough to avoid any comprehension issues yet enough to add a bit of intrigue to what your'e saying - definitely not a minus! Sadly my (second) skull has no cranium or mandible, but still has been a great photographic prop. I must say that I ahgree with others that the sheer professionalism of your productions is not (yet) reflected in your subscriber / view numbers but Im sure that won't be the case for long - keep up the amazing work & I look forward to seeing more of your output

[@paranormaltv2478]

You guys nailed it as always! We have done some experimental macro work with some of our vintage stills lenses , some of those old 28mm’s are pretty impressive. The closest we have come to anything like those Lowas is the Rokunar 90mm f2.5, it does go to 1:1 but it’s totally impractical for most cinematic applications.

[@MediaDivision]

Interesting... I have (and use) some vintage macros, too. Mamiya 80mm is one of my favourites as the large projection allows tilt shift with an adapter. On a practical level.... yeah... this is better for sure. Thanks for your kindness!!

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[@MediaDivision]

I would never dare to bother treasured supporters like you with anything less than stellar production value and an interesting subject ;-) Thank you so much FlyingLapMedia.... we salute you!

[@AlexanderMaleev]

Brilliant work! As always!❤

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks Alexander .... Appreciated!!

[@guardianofthewhills]

I have only dabbled with macro, but it is a fun perspective and I look forward to seeing your perspective on it!

[@MediaDivision]

Enjoy my man… maybe there is some inspiration for your own projects in here?!

[@Scyth3934]

Wow. Perfect video- love this so much

[@gunayorbay]

this is so well made. it beats me how you guys don't get more views.

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks... well, me too, but there are so few professional filmmakers

[@quiltlessnight]

Love the detailed narration. One other set of cine macro lenses not mentioned is Sirui's Jupiter series, ranging from 24mm to 100mm.

[@MediaDivision]

Glad it is for you, thanks for watching, I'm sure there are others and the examples are not comprehensive. Sirui is generally a bit lower end.

[@ಥ_ಥ]

Wonderful work as always.

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks a lot man!

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[@MediaDivision]

Happy that it has that effect on you... was hoping it would! Thanks for being around

[@mobilography6786]

Extremely high end knowledge about micro cinematography. Thanks 😅

[@MediaDivision]

Our pleasure ... glad you enjoy. Thanks for watching

[@Altgottt]

Incredible!

[@MediaDivision]

Incredible as in "not credible" 😂just kidding… thanks a ton Altgott… I thought god was the oldest by definitiony?!?!?!

[@dandanthesoundman7607]

I subbed after 10 seconds of watching this video, boooom 💥

[@MediaDivision]

Thank you. Very glad to have you around dandan... we have a ton more where this came from. Enjoy!

[@eclipsehunter303]

Amazing episode! 👏

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks man... appreciate the kindness.

[@timeTegus]

this is so cool!

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks a lot timeTegus!

[@SesjaZen]

60mm shot was astounding!

[@MediaDivision]

what was special about the 60mm... I mean, yes it is, but why specially

[@SesjaZen]

@MediaDivision I think that field of view combination with 2x macro and visible micro vibrations from robo arm at the end make this shot so unique and reminded me of imaginary camera trolley but in macro scale .

[@dante7228]

I always wished to work in photography and cinematography... But I work as gardener... Nonetheless I follow this channel since years out of pure interest. Your content and production quality is outstanding!

[@MediaDivision]

Thank you Dante.... glad to have you around. Why don't you do both? Gardening and photo video fits together so well... macro... timelapse.... it is the perfect documentation of a work that makes things grow

[@02b6a4]

Lovely!

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks man!

[@michaelcliffordphotos]

I would love to see an episode on how different degrees and types of lens (non-) perfection affect storytelling. For example, many people say that they prefer vintage lenses to modern lenses, but does that affect how effectively the story is told, or how well the imagery in the story can be created? What if a scene were filmed on a modern lens, but then processed to look vintage. Would that be distinguishable from shooting on a vintage lens? Can you achieve the same storytelling quality using an inexpensive modern (or vintage) lens that you can with an expensive one? What truly contributes to the storytelling? What is just marketing? And what affects how the viewer actually feels about the resulting footage? With the introduction of far more affordable cinema glass, does it still make sense for a person, or even a studio, to shoot with much more expensive glass? In a related topic, many lines of cinema lenses have been introduced recently that are tailored for specific characteristics, such as having flaring, chromatic aberration, contrast, bokeh, and price point that are tuned either towards optical perfection, towards the look of a specific vintage lens, or towards some mix of characteristics that the lens manufacturers think that their customers want. How are these decisions made, and what processes and tools are used to develop lenses with exactly the desired set of optical characteristics?

[@MediaDivision]

I don't think you could boil it down to a degree that it makes sense or has practical benefits for DoPs. I don't think it intrinsically changes the storytelling at all. If it well done, it very well could be indistinguishable, but that might not be the easiest way of doing it. Often, the change in the process itself is to affect the filmmaker rather than the audience. If you film something special with a special lens.... that should inspire you. In 999 out of 1000 cases the audience couldn't tell or give a f... Does it make sense to shoot with more expensive glass.... well, there are applications where squeezing quality might make sense, practical aspects might be impostant to safe time etc. But very honestly... the arri signature primes don't make sense in any context I can think of. 9999 out of 10000... you get the gist.

[@dayongli-z2m]

Cool!👍

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks man!

[@willgavillan]

Excellent video and info as usual. I’m curious how well the 100 would cover gfx 100ii sensor. Keep up the awesome work!

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks a lot.... well, I don't have any "medium" format sensors around to test coverage. My guess is that the interesting aspect of the image (the very close focus) covers more than fine. Always trying!

[@gentlesteps2476]

Brilliant video! I have been loving the Laowa lenses for macro filmmaking, and these new cine lenses look very interesting. I've also started shooting some wildlife footage with the auragon and getting some nice results of tiny springtails and mites (although the depth of field is shallow). Curious to know how you would approach filming with this auragon lens when it comes to trying to achieve more depth of field, definitely a challenge!

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks a lot man... appreciated. Yeah... narrow DoF is a problem for sure and talking about wildlife I don't have a good answer to it. Choice of subject seems to be key here. Focus stacking is another, but that only works with looping movements in a video context... very challenging. There are Nelsonian lenses that have a deeper DoF but at a hit to image quality.

[@gentlesteps2476]

@@MediaDivision I think my last comment didn't appear so writing again... I'm curious about the Nelsonian lenses, I'll check them out. Have you used them? Is the image quality much worse than the Laowa? Thanks again for a great video and review, very inspiring!

[@MediaDivision]

@@gentlesteps2476 No, I have never used one… The Frazier lens, Robusto, and MikroMak are Nelsonian, here is a video that imideatly shows you whats cool and why it is not great in a high def world. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jamcZHymmK6YmLs Glad you feel inspired!

[@gentlesteps2476]

@@MediaDivision Interesting! Yes I am filming usually 6K so I need good resolution on the lens.

[@HeyQuinton]

This video is awesome

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks a lot... very glad you like it.

I love the footage!!! it is simply beautiful! And i wish i had the money for these lenses :/

[@MediaDivision]

I know where you are at… I'm there, too… most of the time. Thanks for watching.

[@HugoWill]

Great video! Beautifully shot. Quick note though, Erik Messerschmidt was not the cinematographer on Mindhunter from the very beginning. The show initially had Christopher Probst as its cinematographer for the first two episodes of Season 1. I think Christopher as well deserved the credit. However it’s likely that both of them didn’t actually do the title sequence, because supposedly it was created by Patrick Clair and his team at Elastic, a studio renowned for designing iconic TV intros (True Detective, The Crown, etc.)

[@MediaDivision]

Thank you. Well, he is the on credited in the intro we used here, so we used it, too. Intros usually have specialised directors and crews, of course under the umbrella of the general Director/DoP

[@HugoWill]

@@MediaDivision One of best looking intros ever made. loved it

[@volkantattooz]

Top notch content as usual 🙏🏻

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks man… gald it is for you!

[@volkantattooz]

@MediaDivision So much inspiration and things to learn even i don't need it. I am a tattoo artist in London and admire your content, i would be grateful if i ll have chance to meet and work on a project with you🙏🏻

[@MediaDivision]

@@volkantattooz Sure, come over… but I think I have enough Tattoos… and believe me, those are not Art ;-) How would you "fuse" the magisterials of Tattoo and Film?!??!

[@volkantattooz]

@@MediaDivision i would love to🙏🏻 i am sure we all have more space to get more ink, addiction is a true story :) I actually started to represent my art but it has become a hobby to create something cinematic at least for my art and as a father of twins, family memories. Nothing crazy 🤣 open for ideas for sure.

[@MediaDivision]

@@volkantattooz I have some DIY Tattoos from another life… non addictive guaranteed ;-) Macros could be cool with your art for sure and time lapse… find a way to keep that body part absolutely still…

[@ok4240]

Amazing, thanks a lot

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks man… Always always. Glad you enjoy

[@yoshi314]

this channel has ridiculous subscriber to production quality ratio.

[@MediaDivision]

Agreed… help us out here ;-)

[@JeffBernierNet]

@@MediaDivision It's truly impressive.

[@MediaDivision]

@@JeffBernierNet Thanks… I guess there are just to few of us

[@tdawg719]

The harsh reality of popularity not being related to quality or talent

[@MediaDivision]

@@tdawg719 true true… but like Kubrick or Tarantino proclaimed: They make movies for themselves. I prefer to create something that suits my standards rather than the taste of the masses.

[@RomanHaussener]

Das sollte reichen für ne Tüte Popcorn! 😊

[@MediaDivision]

Aren't you just too sweet!!!! Vielen Dank Roman… ich weiß das sehr zu schätzen. Die Crew und ich salutieren.. Das reicht auch für drei Tüten… Deutschland ist jetzt ja ein neues Billiglohnland.

[@RomanHaussener]

@MediaDivision lasst es euch schmecken! 😊 Und verkauft euch ja nicht unter euren Wert!

[@MediaDivision]

@@RomanHaussener … oder was der Markt halt hergibt… danke Dir noch mal!

[@RomanHaussener]

@@MediaDivision Sehr gerne doch... ☺ Der Markt braucht immer Leute eures Kalibers und solch hochwertige Produktionen!

[@albertomartinez4488]

Another banger from you guys. And I don't mean to be a buzzkill but in the lens examples you put "focus through" in the graphics instead of "focus throw". Same with the aperture. Still love your work, you are the best!

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks man.... yeah... shit happens and my german spelling sucks already... my english is... well, not native. Thank god I don't work for the BBC

[@JorgeDourado]

We should be neighbors, if we were I would probably have even your wifi pass lol Your reviews and insides are a plus! Always great to see your own touch to this matters. Thanks for sharing, cheers.

[@MediaDivision]

Sure.... the password is "getyourowninternetdourado12345#" Thanks man... and it is our pleasure!

[@NathanRibau]

That 15mm and 100mm are insane

[@MediaDivision]

totally insane ;-)

[@MAandS]

Another quality video. Id loooooove to see this channel cover The Batman(2022)

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks man..... I haven't even seen it. I am to tired of the superhero genre. Why? Because the used Soviet lenses?

[@MAandS]

@MediaDivision ah that is a huge bummer but I understand. And yes that's exactly why. Because I felt it's aesthetically different from other super hero films. The Cinematography is very technically meticulous and purposful yet its dirty and otherworldly feeling. It's even inspired by Fincher films (someone you mention alot). Its not a perfect film but visually i found it superb.

[@MediaDivision]

@@MAandS I heard that many liked the cinematography… I saw clips, trailers… it wasn't that appealing to me to be honest. If you take something like 7, what Khondji did there or in Delicatessen… everything recent pales a bit: I am working on our epic "cinematic" episode in which I expand on that a bit.

[@MAandS]

@MediaDivision understandable. I'll give it a look. Thanks for the reply.

[@MediaDivision]

@@MAandS sure thing… this whole project is about community

[@SPLSE]

Beautiful.

[@MediaDivision]

Thank you... and thanks for watching!

[@Whaever_1981]

Amazing!!! Question, what lens/camera did you use for the talking to camera shots and also what grain software :P ? :)

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks. Kinefinity Mavo LF MK II (same one we used to shoot the Tape recorder). Film emulation is Dehancer

[@JBNL1]

Techmoan shoutout

[@MediaDivision]

Of course and deserved!

[@Techmoan]

Thanks for the mention, it’s much appreciated.

[@MediaDivision]

@@Techmoan with pleasure ... well deserved and a personal thank you here, too

[@FACTUALITY-1]

To Kill a Mockingbird has always been my favorite movie intro.

[@MediaDivision]

It is very cool indeed… and maybe even more importantly THE inspiration for so many other brilliant intros

[@necron1050]

I think there is a lens that could be theoretically rigged to be a zero breathing macro. It's a photography lens so it would need rehousing but the micro nikkor 70-180mm f4.5-5.6 zoom macro. By partially linking the zoom and focus you could compensate for the breathing, you'd have to set the minimum aperture to f 5.6 to have a constant aperture. It would be a cool and tricky project.

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks for the input… I think there might be good reasons why no optical designer pulled that off before… with this much compensation the image must suffer at any point. Still, interesting thought. Thank you for your support… we salute you!!

[@necron1050]

@MediaDivision there is good reason, its extremely tricky. To my knowledge, it's the only full frame production zoom macro ever made, there is alot glass and four element groups that have to move independently. The image quality is pretty consistent (or atleast enough I've never noticed it changing as a still photographa), and the ultimate performance of the lens is good, better than most 'vintage' lenses but not cutting edge modern. With modern tech you could link the compensation in electronically with a motor driving that to hold a constant field of view. I am still surprised one of the Chinese manufacturers hasn't built a zoom macro even if it was only targeted at stills. I have always been impressed by the wonderful quality in every video, I remain a happy supporter.

[@MediaDivision]

@@necron1050 cool cool… maybe I have to take a look at that lens. As a product… I think there might be just to few customers… at least for a non breathing cine version. I never heard a complain by heavy users like The Marmalade. And then… you can count these kind of buyers on one hand.

[@RobertHollingworth]

I have two of those Nikkor Zoom macros. It’s a truly special lens. It looks gentle and creamy like a vintage primes, especially to direct light, but handles with a solid macro, and zooms. And it’s sharp. It’s really quite insane.

[@MediaDivision]

@@RobertHollingworth Sounds awsome!

[@tonizzzo]

Nice!

[@MediaDivision]

cheers man!

[@888berg]

*AMAZING!!!!* I want to thumbs up but its at 888, and I can't break that :))

[@MediaDivision]

I see it at 893… your time has come and gone, so GO FOR IT ;-) Thanks a lot man!

[@antongabrielcinema]

Thank you so much!

[@MediaDivision]

Totally our pleasure Anton… thanks for hanging around with us.

[@-szega]

12:40 most "not totally vintage" macro lenses often have reduced focus breathing compared to older designs and lenses do vary a lot there, even from the same brand. I don't think it's a design goal for any of them though. The most extreme anti-example I know of is the Sigma 180mm f/2.8, which has infinite focus breathing, because it moves through zero degrees angle of view (object-telecentric) and at 1:1 has a slightly negative angle of view (object-hypercentric, meaning objects further away appear slightly larger than closer objects).

[@-szega]

One key reason why this correction might be rather unpopular might be that if you wanted to have NO focus breathing at all from infinity to 1:1, then you need to satisfy atan(2f) = atan(2f' * (1 + P)), where f' is the focal length at 1:1 and P is the pupillary magnification. Regardless of f', this only occurs with P = (f - f')/f', which is necessarily greater than 1 (P cannot be negative by definition), which is rather unfortunate for a macro lens as that further diminishes working aperture (i.e. reduces NA, increasing diffraction and decreasing brightness).

[@MediaDivision]

I get it… you are an optical designer 😂 I am obviously not, but I get it and thank you for the interesting input. MAybe the modern lenses perform better because they tend to be more tele centric, I don't know. Just taking this from the practical side.

[@Плоскоземельщики]

Круто!

[@MediaDivision]

Спасибо

[@bohdandoval9621]

Media Division is the best!!

[@MediaDivision]

working hard to be... every time. Thanks and thanks for watching

[@gregorypassard153]

Wunderbar as usual ! Question for this particular type of shots : did you budgetized the cost of the whole production VS full CGI ? With Unreal or Blender ? Sorry if the question was already ask.

[@MediaDivision]

Thank you… no, why would I? … my expertise, profession is filming. Also, the interest in optics is only served by doing this practical. My general approach to things is to do it practical if you can at all. While you could do this in CGI, it would have been vastly more expensive, time consuming and complicated to pull off than to do it practical… at least if realism was the desired result. Even a very good CG recreating lack the soul of it. Here is an attempt… guess why he left the hand out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJu8oo2eatFgfNE

[@RomanHaussener]

Popcorn time! 🥳

[@MediaDivision]

Go on… give me some…… now! 👺 Enjoy it Roman

[@RomanHaussener]

🍿🍿🍿😊

[@MediaDivision]

@@RomanHaussener Thanks man!

[@genepulse]

What would be cool if they would come up also with exposure compensation for 1x to 2x. And last but not least a macro zoom with at least 1x. That would be a great set up.

[@MediaDivision]

Hmmm... I guess you are referring to the bellows effect. I don't know how you would implement that in a purely mechanical design, especially when a feature like that can only be a switchable option?

[@genepulse]

@@MediaDivision older arri 100mm macro has exposure compensation feature.

[@MediaDivision]

@@genepulse I didn't know that.. Macro DoP sitting beside me right now. He said the Arri have that feature across the lineup but that that is really a bit iffy as motor on MOCO tend to crash that system badly.

[@cinex5114]

German version of Film Riot! But more detailed and educational...Nothing on YT to compare with...just amazing content... Liebe Grüsse

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks a lot....... yeah... I was hoping we where a lot deeper that FilmRiot... didn't know we came across at that german. Well, my accent is a dead give away I guess ;-)

[@just_eirik]

How does the lenses perform when you focus far away? Can you use this set of lenses of close to all your filming needs, or are other lenses better for shots focused further away?

[@MediaDivision]

Well, they are just not optimised for that. You can focus to infinity of course, but... things like the breathing is not that great for all normal use, plus, I find them to slow for normal narrative work

[@just_eirik]

@@MediaDivision That makes a lot of sense! I should have guessed they aren’t good for that when you said they have a lot of breathing, it just makes sense that that would make them unsuitable for general film making.

[@MediaDivision]

@just_eirik unsuitable is harsh… you absolutely can shot normal sequences. They are just not ideal, and I would use other lenses for that task, given a choice.

[@just_eirik]

@@MediaDivision Ah, makes sense!

[@VFed0seev]

🎙️🔬 thanks Nik 🤗

[@MediaDivision]

My pleasure man!!!!

[@Ftothedance]

Topnotch Episode again. Do you guys are from Hamburg?

[@MediaDivision]

Thanks a lot.... yes... many of our episodes feature Hamburg locations... so, I guess it is obvious

[@Joe_Does_Stuff]

Around 3 minutes in, you credited Groundhog Day to Danny Boyle, but it was Harold Ramis directing, and John Bailey who DoP'd.

[@MediaDivision]

A very obvious paste and copy error from the movies before

[@Joe_Does_Stuff]

Thanks for the quick reply! I just finished the video, and agree with everybody else here in the comments that the production value and watchability were superb! Looking forward to more.

[@Matt.2024]

What's that mini slider that doubles as a macro slider you mentioned?

[@MediaDivision]

A MIOPS Slider+.... it is out of production these days

[@rogrdotnet]

Watching on my TV, are these videos mixed in Atmos/5.1?

[@MediaDivision]

The perfect place for our episodes to live ;-) ! No, simple stereo... there might be emulation on your TV?!

[@seanroymedia3580]

Media Division deserves at least...THREE TIMES AS MANY FOLLOWERS! *Blue Steel pose*

[@MediaDivision]

Ha ha... Thanks a lot Sean.... This is how we roll at The Media Division Center for Filmmakers Who Can't Film Good and Who Wanna Learn to Do Other Stuff Good Too