Mad Men - Joan/Roger Season 4, Episode 6

[@francescotamburini5790]

As if we needed more proof that the writing in the show is stellar, I love the exchange: “Is he attached?” “To that glass? Absolutely.”

[@cecily3797]

Not really, there's a little nonsense in some parts, and cool phrases do not mean good writing

[@effeweewetoob]

You cut out the scene where they hold hands :(

[@angelinavang8060]

I love Joan and roger

[@jazzysophie9943]

Bet no one recognized that Betty Draper was in the art painting on Don's wall when he was selling Roger a fur before he became an ad mad. Betty had on one of the furs. I just really looked at it. I've seen Mad Men 4 times, already. And, this was the first time I noticed. Go figure. You always pick something new up, each time you watch it.

[@KOLDBLU3ST33L]

OMG SHE'S GORGEOUS 😍

[@jazzblack666]

To anyone that needs it, at 2:45 the track is called "King O' Swing" of Gotthard Welker. Also I need to know that track's name at 3:41 ! Anyone?

[@arfinochristo1569]

Damn, I need the 3:41 too. Tell me when you find it , okay?

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

The King Of Swing? Of course my horse!

[@sunshine17e]

she is so beautiful!

[@user-cb2zf3nh1z]

Thank goodness, Roger got the trophy, Don so carelessly & drunkenly, left at the bar. Whenever he saw Don 3 days later -- Don had been with like 3 women, was on a celebrating bender. When Roger handed the trophy to Don, he told Don that he couldn't have made it if it wasn't for him. And, he's right. Had Roger not given him a chance and hired him, he wouldn't be where he is today. Roger had a big influence on Roger. . Either way, Roger saw how he was getting so much attention; he thought about how badly Don begged him for a job. Roger had moments of memories, from when Don was only a fur salesman. You know, Don was a nobody before Roger gave him a chance. I know he saw some of himself in Don. Well, one thing they have in common": booze, women, cigarettes, & infidelity. And, in that order! I love them both at times and mad at them at times. Roger, certainly would make for a much funnier date. Love his one liner's and his quick wit. I like to enjoy myself and go out dancing. I love someone with a good sense of humor.. Roger wasn't such a bore when it came to that. Don, on the other hand, didn't have a sense of Humor. I suppose he didn't needed: an ego, pad, & pencil.

[@threenumbnuts]

You missed a key point of the flashbacks: Roger *didn't* give him a chance. Don conned an easy mark into thinking he'd given him a chance, and Roger went along with it out of pride. There was nothing altruistic or deliberate about Roger hiring him, so it's completely silly for him to try and take credit.

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

@@threenumbnuts You think Don just showed up on his own? I doubt it. I think Roger actually did like Don and wanted to give him a shot, while drunk. Then the next day he just forgot since Roger probably has encounters like that with people all the time. Roger thinks the world is his playground and I admire that in a sense. He does grow as a person throughout the series though, and sees happy in the end.

[@threenumbnuts]

@@flightofthebumblebee9529 Don does a sly smirk at the very end of that episode, which is a clear sign to the audience that he just tricked Roger into giving him a job. Not that it was a misunderstanding.

[@Anticlericanaille]

Does anyone know the title of the jazz music played while people are dancing in slow-mo and Joan's talking to Roger ? I love it and I can't find it anywhere !

[@SaymonNascimento]

She used this same fur when she went to the Jaguar's guy room. It seems like she wanted to link Roger to her prostitution.

[@maladonn]

She said she would think of what happened the day she got it any time she wears it...perhaps thinking about him helped her go through with it.

[@ykMMD]

@@maladonn I hope so too :(

[@xxl96]

The actor playing the general is Brent Huff. He is also a great director and recently won the Newport Film Festival for his movie "Behind the Orange Curtain".

[@Goatboysminion]

Joan deserves so much better!

[@AllyArtist93]

she looks like the marilyn monroe of our time, i think

[@BonnChnd]

Trivia: the Announcer is John Aniston, father of Jennifer Aniston.

[@zookeyke6776]

What song is playing in the background

[@francescotamburini5790]

I think there is a little inconsistency in the timeline. When we see Roger and Joan for the first time in S1 they clearly say their affair has been going on for a year, whereas here in S4 they are seeing each other since before Don entered the agency. And for all the talent of Don Draper, I doubt he became creative director in one year. It seems like he spent 4-5 years in Sterling Cooper, and he has some awards from the late 1950s hanging in his office.

[@dayschange2]

Interesting plothole. Maybe they broke up for awhile and got back together a year before the first season?

[@RollingOrmond]

Joan is like Marilyn Monroe combined with David from Prometheus.

[@ArmyJames]

?

[@Lafayette320]

Beautiful Joanie and her FULL FIGURE sure earned that fur. And her cigarette smoking is so seductive! What a woman!

[@infrantasi]

Weiner loved Warner Brothers, Bogart, Bacall, Robert Mitchum, Jayne Mansfield, Maria Callas, (the painful nostalgia is truly operatic throughout every frame of this wonderful story) and so many other influences- B actresses like Ida Lupino, Barbara Stanwyck; the films that had the best lines, such as "What a dump" were greasy, maudlin affairs such as "Beyond The Forest" and that genre is not lost on this incredibly talented man. I am already nervous knowing there are only 26 more episodes.

[@Mona-xw8nm]

what's the first scene episode?

[@Mr-ep2qi]

who was that general?

[@michaelproctor8100]

He was a brigadier-general but was introduced as a major-general.

[@leeroberts4850]

In where Betty calls Dawn to ask where he is and he says I'll be there Sunday and she screams that it is Sunday Donna's in bed with a blonde but the immediately previous scene done was in bed with an Auburn woman which means that Friday night he took an Auburn woman home to his hotel room woke up still blackout drunk left his hotel room got rid of the Auburn haired girl and found a blonde took her home made love to her and he didn't even notice it was a different girl

[@BatmanHQYT]

"General Rufus T. Bullshit"

[@southamcaballero]

Roger's a good guy, but could never get Joan, unless he was rich

[@wojciechgrodnicki6302]

“What’s with the French service?” Lol

[@michaelproctor8100]

The general that Sterling was talking to was introduced as a major-general when he was obviously a brigadier, but I wouldn't expect the liberals at AMC to know the difference.

[@irishbull777]

how evil....