Mad Men's Final Season: Matthew Weiner Tells All

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Join Matthew Weiner as he gives us a look at the last season of Mad Men, moderated by writer/director Richard LaGravenese.
Weiner serves as creator, executive producer, writer and director on the critically acclaimed drama. Since the series premiere in 2007, Mad Men has become one of television’s most honored shows joining an elite group in 2011 when it became only the fourth drama to be awarded four consecutive Emmy Awards for Outstanding Drama Series. Additional honors for the series include three Golden Globe Awards for Best Television Drama Series, a Peabody Award, three Producers Guild Awards, four Writers Guild Awards, two BAFTA Awards, five Television Critics Association Awards including Program of the Year, and being named seven years running to AFI’s Top 10 Outstanding Television Programs.
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[@Serai3]

There's a great line in the Japanese film _Tampopo_ where the male lead talks about how he came from a bad home, and all his life he'd wanted to make a good home for a wife and family. He did all that, and "then I realized I didn't know how to live in a good home. So I left."

[@anneb889]

That’s very sad.

[@zlabyte]

I could listen to this genius for hours. I love his writing, and I love to hear him talk about his writing. The man is both inspiring and entertaining. Matthew Weiner gave us a memorable gift in Mad Men, and I am looking forward to what he brings us next.

[@JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL]

Crowned1 FromtheWall hey, Matt.

[@info781]

Incredibly entertaining.

[@abhinav121rocks]

And that's how you conduct an interview.... make the guest comfortable and let him talk...

[@paulapage4691]

Great conversation

[@abhinav121rocks]

@@paulapage4691 Indeed!

[@norazeid3733]

His reaction when Matt told him the Suitcase episode was a filler is like when a kid finds out Santa isn't real :') I laughed so hard

[@noteworthyreactions7442]

I had the same reaction haha top 5 episodes is a filler ?! Bro....

[@LloydWaldo]

@@noteworthyreactions7442 the best writing often is when you don’t have something to accomplish, and you’re constrained by budget or time.

[@michelmurphy7152]

The Suitcase is acknowledged as possibly the best episode of the series.

[@tpresident17]

This interviewer is amazing

[@somshon]

So heartening to see men acknowledge the contribution of their wives in their success not behind their success!

[@GiantSandles]

Mad Men is probably the best-written show I've seen. Unlike something like West Wing (which I also love) where all the characters kind of speak in the same voice, all the major characters are so distinct and yet they're all really complex and believable to the point where I felt invested in all of them, and so many of the lines have double meanings beyond just what's on the surface of them. Also something about the show when it's really firing on all cylinders (e.g. episodes like The Suitcase, Shut the Door Have a Seat, The Other Woman, Waterloo, I could name like 10 more) is just transcendently good

[@Bill_Woo]

+GiantSandles I agree and The Suitcase is purely orchestrated brilliance. On the comedy side, for stellar writing, I am in stunned awe of the the unwavering show-after-show ingeniousness of Soap, Simpsons, Larry Sanders, Fernwood2Nite, SCTV and "Night Stand with Dick Dietrick." "Louie" may join that list too. (Yeah, all right, Seinfeld too.) And then there's Buffy. (It took a LOT for me - and, I later learned, millions of others - to watch a show titled as though it was about a sassy Valley Girl teenager, or inane teen vampire crap. That show was deeply brilliant - though who'da thunkit with its campy title.)

[@GiantSandles]

***** I'm not massively up on a lot of those shows but Simpsons is probably the most quotable show I've seen. Louie's also interesting because it's essentially him making short films every week (although he experimented a little with longer arcs in season 4), he doesn't even really worry about continuity most of the time. It's not always perfect but the fact that it essentially is just a collation of short films most of the time and the vast majority of them are excellent is really impressive. I think the original Office would have to be up there too

[@Bill_Woo]

+GiantSandles Setting aside the more well known ones I mentioned - SCTV is comedy legend, try to pick up a taste of that. Type fernwood 2 night into the search bar and just click the playlist. Its first entry AMERICA 2 NIGHT FULL EPISODE 1978 KDFW-TV 4 DALLAS FERNWOOD 2 NIGHT should have you marveling at its twistedness fairly quickly. (The same show FERNWOOD 2 NIGHT was renamed AMERICA 2 NIGHT.). I mean seriously. A show with "Happy Kyne and His Mirthmakers." (Thankfully, like SCTV, the campy standby gags were not overplayed.) "Soap" takes a little while longer to get in the swing of, but I'd put it second place on an all time list. Behind The Simpsons - of course.

[@folaolakunbi4961]

sopranos is better, but yeah its good

[@bradleys4941]

@@folaolakunbi4961 ....UNFAIR!!....FOR SURE!!...but I always compared Sopranos to Goodfellas!!....just seemed like Chevy compared to a Cadillac....some ODD storylines

[@stellabandante2727]

One of the most brilliant TV shows of all time. Jon Hamm is breathtaking as Don Draper. I totally fell in love with him, despite his inner depravity, and possibly because of his inner sadness. What a beautiful character and the actor who played him could not be more perfect.

[@jamesanthony5681]

Breathtaking? Hamm was very good.

[@stellabandante2727]

@@jamesanthony5681 Don't be stingy. He was breathtaking, and if you don't think so, watch the whole series again.

[@jamesanthony5681]

@@stellabandante2727 I saw it twice. No, he was very good.

[@smarkslowplay3512]

JH was made for this role

[@stellabandante2727]

@@smarkslowplay3512 Apparently. I keep waiting for him to do something else.

[@beardedskyrim8652]

This guy is the best interviewer

[@lilise3965]

Great acting from January Jones in the episode where Glen tells Betty he's going to Vietnam. She's never meant to speak or say much but in those particular scenes she conveys her character's feelings through a whole range of expressions.

[@pavanatanaya]

The greatest injustice in this series was how Sal was fired, or how Lane was cornered by a very hypocritical Don.

[@semangathajar]

pavanatanaya i do agree with you! Great observation

[@jasonlefler3456]

Tip of the iceberg, bud...

[@mathewg1747]

Yes! I never forgot about those two events and it's part of the genius of this writing.

[@kanakangi]

sal yes, but lane , no. lane's was a forgery and in Dons name, deserved to resign. Sal was injustice, because of personal dislike to gays !

[@murraywestenskow2896]

Don had to can Lane - because his back story might have been exposed if the embezzlement had been discovered, and Don's name was questioned as part of the cover-up..

[@msbadkittie]

this is SO GOOD. i can’t believe i only just discovered it. i will watch any interview with Matthew Weiner. he’s a genius.

[@lukesahagian]

This is by far the greatest interview I’ve ever seen for writers!!!

[@tiko545]

"A theme is not the lies we tell ourselves. It's when you get caught in a lie and see all your lies at once. Just like a cascade of horribleness." truth well told, Matthew! :D

[@eviola11]

I can relate to Richard and what he says at 36:25. There's just so much going on in every episode on so many levels. The people that can't recognize those things are infuriating.

[@bridge5999]

The lawnmower episode made me scream out loud! Unforgettable. Love the way he gives props to his wife.

[@dondraper2344]

"Jesus its like Iwo Jima out there"

[@sid.d]

Excellent interviewer. Their chemistry helps. But, he's geeking out more than me! 🤗

[@vins1979]

I loved Mad Men and now that it's over I just feel like starting watching it all over again. But I want to wait a bit. :-)

[@jazzysophie9943]

I watched it all over about 3-4 months after the first time. I'm still going back to you. There's some kind of comfort there, for me.

[@ngk689]

I waited 5 years to rewatch Mad Men and I devoured it

[@mynameisrandy]

I've watched it a half dozen times now, and it's still amazing every time.

[@suzannebennett8987]

Rewatching it is a different experience. :)

[@sandranorman5469]

Have y’all watched and listen to all the episodes with Matt Wiener making commentary in the background commentary

[@Sonia-nn8zt]

I love this show so much, and this interview. For once there's an interviewer that doesn't constantly interrupt or go off topic! So amazing to hear about the show from Matt's perspective.

[@dwilborn1257]

The Suitcase, if indeed a filler episode, is a brilliant character episode.

[@dibrenn3432]

What a fantastic interview!

[@Bill_Woo]

I admire the self confidence that Matt Weiner had, that he didn't feel the need to be "cute" and end the show on a convoluted paradox. Obviously it would be a tremendous temptation, considering Matt's connection to the Sopranos and its final scene. However, except for the one final unstated implication (that Don created the closing bit), more or less everything was wrapped up tidily and nonmysteriously with closure. Had the show been run by even enormously talented J.J.A. or David Lynch, they well might have taken the finale as an opportunity to cruelly jack with the viewers' heads. Instead Matt chose the higher Whedon-ish road. Kudos to AMC for allowing him so much freedom, all along, and of course for not making the frequently chosen deplorable (and offensive to viewers) move of cutting a series off cold turkey with NO plot closure. Networks: we keep score on those things, m'kay?!

[@jacobmorris3664]

Bill Woo Well, they both went to Wesleyan.

[@MrRocksW]

Yeah - I agree. Artsy is fine but I still like a happy ending

[@baaaldur]

I mean, I think there's a lot of ambiguity and room for interpretation when it comes to Mad Men's ending, even more so than The Sopranos for me. To me it feels pretty clear that Tony died, and there's only so much you can take away from that. Even if you don't interpret it that way, it feels like the core takeaway remains fairly similar. The ending of Mad Men on the other hand to me feels very open, with potential to be interpreted as hopeful, cynical or both. I do think it is an ending that challenges you, not unlike The Sopranos.

[@r.mcd2921]

Terrific interview, thank you.

[@tellathon]

i could listen to matt's genius for hours

[@passengerprincesspodcast]

It was a glorious show.

[@veronicacastillo1775]

Love his laugh👴😆

[@Mel_ilm]

Brilliant. Thank you so much for that. The best interview I've seen in a long, long time.

[@carloslopez4311]

What a great interview! both were really on point, I could watch this two talk for hours!!

[@ricardosilvapereira28]

Great interview

[@winnietsui4253]

Matt Weiner knows a lot about and is really fascinated by Sal....

[@dreamsincolor10]

The Suitcase was filler and it is one of my favorite episodes.

[@ellengeller4832]

I began to suspect that John Cheever figured in “Mad Men”. Sure enough, Cheever lived in Ossining. Don lives on a street with the word “Bullet” in it. Cheever wrote a novel named “Bullet Park”.

[@salkabalani1482]

I actually stayed at the Pierre du Calvet in the 90's. I felt like "It's good to be the King" 😁

[@stephenshaw7593]

Matthew Weiner's suit looks like something Max Bialystock would wear, lol!

[@909One92]

Best all time. Been through it at least 10 times. Every time I find different things. Better than the Sopranos

[@edscott4729]

The beginning of The Sopranos was so unbelievable that it spoiled everything for me. Men chasing men in cars with license plates get arrested. It's silly to think they wouldn't.

[@Rob_-dv6ei]

Zou Bisou Bisou!

[@leftcoastgal5134]

I cannot wait to see what Matthew does next!! So handsome, love the red trousers!

[@ryanpeterson2293]

Thimbleberry DeShea ...Ummm.....Sorry.....NOT handsome.

[@mpita5193]

RyanPeterson Thimbleberry DeShea Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I happen to find him very appealing. Plus, he's a genius. I love Mad Men.

[@Learned_English_Dog]

RyanPeterson Nothing sexier than a beautiful mind.

[@TheMonkeybiznass]

Madelena Francisco Your'e just into jews.....

[@loungeblogger]

talking about solving bigger and bigger problems made me think of the last season of the vampire diaries where they had to defy the actual devil.

[@beastmasterbg]

vampire diaries has a lot of problems

[@MrPSBSMR]

"this puts me a little bit on the defensive" loooool

[@reglagirl5802]

I laughed out loud when talked about Trudy Campbell.

[@valmartin5569]

Does anyone else think that Matthew Weiner’s giggle sounds a lot like when Peggy giggled/ laughed when she was stoned or otherwise?

[@sparkomatic]

46:32 Carey Mulligan in "Inside Llewyn Davis" fooled me.

[@bwprag123]

I think at the end when he couldn't bring out the name of the author who sees men needing to feel they've made a mark, he's talking about Rober Musil who wrote The Man Without Qualities.

[@karlagb1186]

You’re not Pete, Matthew! You’re Constanza 😂

[@rozchatt]

The writer is so much more interesting than the actors.

[@T-roccBABY]

"and I stopped watching some shows because by the second season they're just doing the same thing and facing the same problems" - silicon valley in a nutshell. It was fun from the start but it was literally just the same shit over and over. I don't even remember if I made it past the second or third season.

[@troillandford7679]

Walking dead

[@natalie651]

Not a great time for movies? 1991 movies included: My own private idaho, silence of the lambs, beauty and the beast (which should have won best picture), JFK, Boyz N the Hood, point break, Terminator 2, and some guilty pleasures like The marrying man and Don't Tell Mom the babysitter is dead. :)

[@fredkruse9444]

My favorite episode was when Sterling-Cooper lost the ad campaign to McMann & Tate.

[@Bubbles99718]

Worked the show once each season as an extra. I'm 6'1". :)

[@electrontube]

Holy smokes, seriously? You're a minute over? Does anyone in that room have something more pressing than this? It’s Matthew Weiner talking with Richard LaGravenese talking about film production and writing. Turn out the lights if you need to. We'll lock up when they’re done.

[@seamac206]

What show did he mention 8 mins in?

[@realexkav]

The Many Loves Of Dobie Gillis

[@Triggy6825]

I want to ask, how do you separate your writing after becoming a fan of your characters? It must be terribly difficult to write tragedy for a character that you want to succeed.

[@cjeff3549]

You would think so. But actually, there comes a point in writing when you lose control to your characters’ innate desires. You stop writing. You start watching and listening and try your best to transcribe what they do. And if that sounds a little fantastical, all I can do is encourage you to write, write, and write some more.

[@YagizBallibaba]

44:00

[@angelacarleton9575]

To be perfectly honest this show "Mad Men" showed the true depiction of what life was during the 50s. What it didn't show is some women didn't have a maid because they didn't always marry well. So they were stuck doing "everything" because that time men were not ready to help their mates around the house unless it was to throw away the garbage or cut the lawn - maybe? Most of it all was done by the wives which didn't give them time to relax as they so-called concepts that they had it made in the shade if they married?

[@katharinamaria5204]

I agree with you, but it's set in the 60s, not the 50s.

[@michelmurphy7152]

@@katharinamaria5204 The mentality of the 50s lingered through the early 60s.

[@angelacarleton9575]

I have yet to have seen so many wonderful characters that had flaws but still had some redeeming worth to their characters. That also includes the women that during that period had this fictitious concept if they marry they wouldn't have to work? Once you're married you still work - to provide a home and children. Plus children are a lot of work and involvements in church and school activities that belong to those parents - "it isn't a stay at home and do nothing type of event!" I don't know where women got that concept which crossed throughout various cultures but staying at home is not what women thought it would be. Plus there is more to being a "stay at home mom." In which I worked all the time prior to getting married which I enjoyed because I got paid. Staying at home you don't get paid but it is "assumed" you will maintain a home for the husband and the family." Imagine thinking you will be doing this 24/7 for so many years and not get appreciated and have no income or retirement? During my engagement I was concerned so I wasn't blind by that concept because dependency on others including a husband who you don't know may have a wondering eye and what happens if he leaves? You find yourself with no experience if you married early after high school or college and never went out into the world to earn a living. Did it make me ill - that 50s concept of getting married and winding up not working? That is all a false concept. No one stays home and does nothing - we make our lives better by doing all we can to provide for those we love.

[@ScandinavianV]

That concept that said that women had to stay at home with children wasn’t only believed by women themselves. Remember that men wanted to get home and see dinner on the table, the house clean, the kids with the homework done, and almost ready to sleep. That believe that you mention borns with the thought that women only can do two things: take care of the children and of the house. And it wasnt a party. It was a work!!! You should just see how unhappy betty was with don and how when she was with Henry needed to go out of the house and doing something for herself like studying. Also, when don goes on a trip to California he says he needs a woman because of the children. He never would have thought in a male friend of his to help him because that’s a “woman’s job” for him. And when he went to live alone, the same thing: he needed a girl to clean the house and make dinner. Sorry for my english je, I speak Spanish.

[@violetviolet888]

No, it's that this concept of "marrying a man" was "expected" by both genders because it was normalized in the culture of that time so it was not questioned - if you deviated you were shamed. It wasn't about work in a business or home sense.

[@thewkovacs316]

because it was a well written show that was about something, was character driven, had actual 3d characters and made sure to give most of the characters actual arcs, the main conceit can be forgiven one thing for don to live a double life....quite another to give him the backstory of being dick whitman and not really explaining how he went from a country bumpkin to the sophisticate we see on the show.

[@lucillegreen4779]

I am the new writers of Mad Magazine see all of us

[@sarthak8441]

14:00

[@kingofthefountain3091]

I’d like to see what Old Kinsey is up to, if he’s still sucking air

[@jja6784]

Mad Men, Seinfeld and Schitt's Creek are my all-time favorite shows... just "shitty people, being shitty, in their shitty lives." -me.

[@michelmurphy7152]

Hey, stop laughing at Trudy!

[@qwertymanor]

8:10

[@creedbratton9417]

22:00, 27:00

[@ellengeller4832]

Salvatore is apparently gay from the moment we see him.

[@tiger.6509]

If Roseanne can make it back on the air and be huge success MAD MEN Bring it back seven more seasons it be huge.

[@jimbeam4140]

One of the greatest TV shows of all time in my book. Definitely the most aesthetically pleasing and historically accurate. But despite the fact that he's been married for years and has four kids nobody will ever convince me that Matt Weiner isnt' gay. I'm sure he gets his rocks off on the side. There is no way that man is not AT LEAST bi sexual - not that there is anything wrong with that.

[@fdah29]

Hahahha! Seinfeld fan?

[@semangathajar]

Wait!! He’s married?? He’s Sal!

[@jsm8149]

Who cares. He’s an artist. can’t he create great work and be able to to talk about it without subjecting himself to your nosy intrusion. It’s not our business.

[@sandranorman5469]

One question for @Jim Beam Does it matter what his sexual orientation is??

[@jimbeam4140]

@@sandranorman5469 His sexual orientation isn't the issue. The issue is his deception around his sexual orientation.

[@benjamincox4211]

This is the 69th comment

[@mallorybohn8241]

damnit. why did he have to remind me that i can see the bridge of my nose!? and do they have the exact same shoes?

[@orsonwelles4254]

Fuck you too

[@gandalfgrey91]

Orson Welles myahaaaaaaa the bridge... of your nose.

[@BucketOfMarbles]

... I'm macho?

[@folaolakunbi4961]

XD

[@Blueeey]

Wasn't against Diana Bauer as a character, its just that Elizabeth Reaser is such as terrible and one dimensional actress.

[@dmimcg]

two queens. lol

[@candide1065]

Love how all the comments aged like milk and nobody's talking about his sexist incident. Male feminists, right? Matthew Weinstein = Joss Whedon in jewish.

[@RSHekscher]

Doesn't seem like a macho to me though. Could be gay, wouldn't surprise me

[@eddieadams6050]

Trudy Campbell was more sympathetic later on but in early seasons she was a horrible human being. As much of a weasel as Pete was, showing him with Trudy or his parents always made me feel for him in those early seasons.

[@jimbeam4140]

Why? What did Trudy do early on? I"m watching the show in its entirety right now and I'm trying to figure out where this comes from.

[@GiantSandles]

If anything she seemed overly accommodating in the earlier seasons, Pete treats her like shit all the time and she just takes it because she doesn't want to be some difficult wife or whatever

[@jimbeam4140]

GiantSandles Bingo. Yes, she seemed to gain confidence and stand up for herself as the show progressed, but early on she was probably too nice to him.

[@jsm8149]

Your criticism of Trudy is saying something about you. Like all the housewives in the cast, she was lied to, belittle and betrayed. Trudy was always supportive and opinionated. More so than the others she was the woman behind the man. You criticize Trudy, the woman saddled with the one of the antagonists in the show.

[@hahdhsjsjrkfn]

@@jsm8149 Trudy is pushy. Not that it's a crime. . .

[@SovereignStatesman]

Gee, ya think this guy's GAY?

[@ajfrost3382]

I did. But he's married to a woman

[@bascal133]

Get your own tv show.... okay 🙄

[@TheStradivarius93]

You don't get jokes ha? Pathetic....

[@Pierrot110194]

"We love bullshit artists in America". Oh wow, that statement strikes a nerve these days.

[@folaolakunbi4961]

this is camper than butlins

[@gaborbanko4037]

great interview with terrible, intolerable laughs

[@guyperry4010]

Lane was fired by Don and he should really have been up before the other directors. Much as I love Mad Men, Don's conversion to nirvana an hour after hitting rock bottom ...just doesn't hold water. Too much, too soon. Hugging Leonard did not work. No way.

[@afonsosousa2684]

The ending means that nirvana wasn't actually so. And hugging Leonard definitely worked--here was someone who could put into words the misery and loneliness that Don had carried his whole life but could never express. By this point he had already realised that most people who knew him only appreciated his charisma, his good looks and style etc, but he rarely felt that anyone knew anything about him on an emotional level. Leonard also talks about how maybe people are giving him love and he's simply unable to receive or recognise it. This clearly resonated with Don, who had sabotaged all the real relationships in his life in a reckless pursuit of what he imagined intimacy to be, all the while alienating those who truly loved him and never realising that. His final phone call with Peggy includes his reflection on his many failures in life, particularly his relationships. Don was at a loss for words after that phone call and didn't know how to react or pick himself back up--hearing a similar sentiment expressed by Leonard was something he needed to understand that he wasn't truly alone, despite the chaos of his personal life--a callback to something Anna Draper told him when she read his tarot cards.

[@barnabenoel7566]

I know it can be upsetting but it did work and very well, it was just so well written, you need to put yourself in his shoes and it works. And you missed the fact that the last part of the show tells you that there's no conversion to nirvana at all.

[@cjeff3549]

There’s zero evidence to suggest your timeline is correct. Don has transformed physically from looking like shit to looking cleansed. That didn’t happen in an hour. For all we know the timeline could have been a month or longer. Prior to hugging Leonard, Don had just said to Peggy ‘I can’t get out of here’. All clues point towards Don having an extended stay before the final scene.

[@NCRonrad]

@@cjeff3549 honestly, I bet there’s a good chance Don went back to New York, and then back to Big Sur on retreat(s). Or he stayed in Big Sur for a few weeks/months. It’s the first we see him connect with nature without polluting, so ironically, he connects more to the earth while putting together super ads for Coca Cola and other ultra polluters. But it’s the billboard message changed - you are ok, you are not alone/you have purpose. I can also see a gradual progression into Buddhism for Don, he’s been on an enlightenment path, and after getting locked up by decking that ass preacher, the lies of Christianity are easier to dismiss.

[@edscott4729]

This laughing guy is the worst interviewer ever.

[@dr_owenmaestro7540]

Ok I wasn't going to say anything but by the end the interviewer's laugh, and laughing FOR NO REASON, was really annoying and reflected badly on his intelligence.

[@John_Greek]

1 is great 2,3 and 4 are outstanding The rest are letdowns

[@qwertymanor]

Season 2 is boring, Season 5 is better

[@Historian212]

Weiner, we know we didn’t invent drugs or sex. Others have slapped those labels on us. It was our older sibs and parents who did; and they played Pied Piper so we and our families did. The Beatles? Not Boomers. But we sure bought what they sold us kids. And Weiner, your 60s aren’t that authentic. Like Mrs. Maisel, 50s and 60s style, but not quite there. Weiner doesn’t really remember it, he wasn’t born yet (or old enough to remember).

[@barnabenoel7566]

We've got someone upset here. I guessed he touched some topics dear to your heart in a way that you did not like. Just remember that it is a show(ans a wonderful one) not real life.

[@koho]

I'm old enough. He caught it perfectly. And by the way, your comment offers nothing. Why bother?

[@user-gx8po4sp6g]

lil jew

[@marleneg7794]

Sally draper is the only poorly cast character

[@MantasKi]

But why?

[@MlRAAK]

Uhhh... did you forget about Glen? He couldn't act even in the last couple seasons

[@MlRAAK]

@@MantasKi There's a thing child actors do because they don't know how to enunciate and be expressive, you'll notice in about seasons 3-6 she ends all of her words in a low raspy gravelly tone. She also does a really annoying thing where she twists her face up whenever she talks but that just bothers me, im sure no one else notices.

[@Altair584]

@@MlRAAK Yeah, so do teenagers like Glen.

[@MlRAAK]

@@Altair584 I disagree. Glenn just delivered every line deadpan and never expressed any emotion on his face. Awful actor.