Madeleine McCann: Portuguese police apologise to parents - BBC News

[@truthteller339]

Leaving a 3 year old and two babies alone in a room in a foreign country is just unthinkable. What if one if them had woken up put something in their mouth and started choking ? What if a fire had broken out ? Why didn't they just take the kids with them to the restaurant ? Decent responsible parents who love and value their children above everything do not leave them ......ever. If they can't get a sitter they dont go out. This pair make me sick.

[@Redwarfa]

Yet your children slept in separate rooms in the house You would never know if they choked

[@TinFoilCat90]

​@@Redwarfa Most ppl use baby monitors and cams. Stop acting like those 2 things are in any way comparable.

[@Redwarfa]

@@TinFoilCat90 ha ha ha They were only invented in the eighties What did people do before that Have you ever had a party outside on your one acre lot We have Just check the children every now and then

[@Sambol2009]

Even had the kids on a drug so they can pass out easily… the husband is a doctor….

[@Redwarfa]

@@Sambol2009 children were tested for drugs and they had never been drugged They are both doctors If you are going to gossip,at least try and get it right

[@susanb4816]

Leaving kids alone to go to a bar is the definition of irresponsible They paid too dearly though

[@lisagauthier-lx4th]

​@ceooflonelinessinc.267leaving them in a country where they don't know where they are

[@susanb4816]

@ceooflonelinessinc.267 nope absolutely unacceptable you want to have fun you hire a sitter or you stay in and make your own fun. They put their need for "fun" ahead of their children's need for protection. Not to mention waking up alone in a strange place. I shudder to think of the effect of this on the other child

[@susanb4816]

@ceooflonelinessinc.267 ok so they can afford to vacation in portugal but not a sitter? And again make your fun where your kids can be protected

[@mikevarga6742]

They didn’t go to a bar moron. They went out in the pool area I’m the center of their complex. Many people do that. You don’t need to stay up your kids arse.

[@sooticablue1664]

They never apologised either.

[@gladiatorprogramme]

Police did not apologise this is BBC false information they also are still the main suspect.

[@anna3046]

So true!

[@carlosf7916]

Apologised??? They should have been prossecuted for child abandonment!

[@stevefowler3398]

AND murder. AND concealing a death. AND disposing of a corpse. AND FRAUD. The list is endless.

[@bigmamassoul8323]

I want to know why they leave an infant and a toddler alone in the first place, so in my opinion they're guilty

[@NoWindNoSunNoPower]

That was my question from day one.

[@chrisb.4323]

It’s not as simple as that - they were located in the vicinity of the rooms the children were in, in visual range of where the parents were sitting….its more complex than simply being “left alone”.

[@patterdale4332]

They drugged them as Well so they wouldn't said up

[@thelmarose2782]

Two infants and a toddler! The who incident stinks.

[@thelmarose2782]

@@chrisb.4323 They could not see them in the apartment from where they were dining. And declined the use of babysitter available!!!

[@Thestorminator89]

Even in the UK, they would have been treated as suspects, until enough evidence shows they're innocent.

[@caravanstuff2827]

Their guilty of child neglect at the very least!!.❤️🇬🇧

[@estebancomulet]

It has.

[@stueymorris]

​@@caravanstuff2827it was them

[@estebancomulet]

They'r guilty of child neglect. There is zero evidence to support any theories they were involved in her disappearance in any other way. There is zero evidence they even gave her a sedative (this tabloid article was swiftly discredited). It's all hogwash based on half-baked conspiracy theories fuelled by online echo chambers, lurid tabloid headlines like 'Dog smelled death' (without revealing the entire context behind it, and lack of supporting forensic DNA evidence) and a simple gut reaction of 'I don't like the look of them cos they're cerebral middle class doctors, not like us'. Doesn't take into account they were advised to appear phlegmatic and not show overt displays of emotion on television, or that they're detached doctors who some can't identify with, but others very much can. it's all based on weird reverse snobbery and selective evidence. Those who claim to 'know' the parents did it are nothing more than scurrilous curtain-twitchers, they have no clue what happened that night any more than anyone else, and far less than those who have examined the totality of evidence. And when pushed on what the parents 'did' they vacillate between the most egregiously silly and outlandish theories that wouldn't even feel credible in the crappiest of Netlfix true crime dramas.

[@estebancomulet]

If you have a shred of evidence then present it to the police. Otherwise your claim of omniscience is pretty damn offensive. Examine the totality of evidence and you will see there is no forensic data to suggest they were involved in any way other than leaving her alone in the room. Unless by 'them' by you mean someone else. They are also just two middle class doctors, not members of a reptilian super-race. If there was evidence to convict, they'd be in prison.@@stueymorris

[@garywallace5602]

Who killed Madeleine McCann? More importantly...who left their daughter on their own whilst her posh parents were dining a la carte alfresco?

[@thinkingallowed7042]

Posh? With her accent? Ah, yes, you mean they were successful.

[@Starboy-_-]

You point out a la carte meaning if it was set menu it would've been okay?

[@soniaearth]

Portuguese police did not apoligise.

[@pagesinyellow]

Do you have a source that contests this?

[@ruthbashford3176]

@@pagesinyellow The Portuguese police have said they never apologised to the McCanns..

[@hemapatel7166]

There is no source in this video that says they did apologise.

[@Catherine-ib3di]

And why should they.

[@anna4642]

This is a LIE! There was NO apology from Portugal!

[@maribelviering3863]

I hope that is the true. The parents should apologise for their behaviour. They didn't help the police at all. Arrogance !!

[@philipholding]

Bit confused. Do you have factual proof of this, and if so, where can I find it?

[@anna3046]

Yes. I have pasted evidence but my reply to you keeps on being deleted. You have to search using European Portuguese. Many Portuguese newspaper articles denied this. Anyways, under article 138 of the Criminal Code provides for criminal liability for leaving in danger. A child under 12 who is left alone is considered abandoned. " It is known from the law that (according to Article 138 of the Criminal Code) ... "whoever endangers the life of another person by putting him in a situation where he is unable to defend himself, or who leaves him when his duty was to guard, supervise or assist him, will be punished to 5 years imprisonment" (excluding aggravating circumstances for an offence against physical integrity or death).

[@theta799]

The little girl was a biological daughter of george soros, bred to be sacrificed

[@pagesinyellow]

​@@philipholding Martin Kayes, Investigative Journalist stated: "The BBC have got things very wrong in their new Panorama documentary. Our source in the Portuguese police (PJ) has told us what really happened earlier this year when the PJ sent a team to visit Madeleine’s parents...the Portuguese police did not apologise to Kate and Gerry as the BBC claim, their journalist must have read it in a magazine called Sábado as that’s where the incorrect claim appeared recently. The BBC didn’t fact-check it. The facts are that the PJ did send a team to brief the McCann’s, but in relation to the latest in the investigation and to let them know that the activity on the case is primarily being carried out by the German authorities at the moment. (The rest of the Panorama episode was just a rehashing the “evidence” from the newspapers that Mark and I found didn’t hold up to scrutiny when we investigated it 2 years ago)" Here is the link for more information: imginn.com/p/CzCR4j6oMJS/

[@Greenpoloboy3]

I find it weird why this story gained such media interest right away. (Sadly many kids go missing) I find it weird why this story is still gaining such media attention all these years later (many people are missing and are never found) I find it weird why the parents left her, and 2 other little kids alone in a room whilst on holiday to go and have drinks... I find it weird the media always paint them victims but never really point to the fact they neglected their children. I find it weird that I've never even seen either parent cry.

[@s.g2344]

100% agree

[@TatianadeSaPires]

Eles ? (the McCann's) sabem muito bem o que fizeram...

[@notoriousedits101]

Exactly it’s so odd and the mother was so laid back in multiple interviews like as if it was just something that happened . also it’s too obvious for that guy they accused to be behind all of it clearly there were many involved and because of his previous record the police are adamant it’s all him .I’m convinced the mother had something to do with it aswell the area they were in was known for being a perverted area before they got there.

[@philgarlic8047]

I find it weird that you find it weird!

[@AndreyaWryght]

They played b tennis 2 days after her disappearance, that's what most people do with their kid goes missing 🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@ramonknijff6316]

Isn't it about time that Kate and Gerry McCann apologize to all those sympathetic people from whom they collected large sums of money, which they then wasted/used on: Reputation damage control companies, incompetent detective agencies, (who had absolutely no experience in tracking down Missing persons?) Unreliable private investigations, lawsuits against newspapers and authors of books, that tell reveal and/or discuss a different story about Madeleine than the abduction story? (Pat Brown was a victim of them), when Amazon cancelled the sale of her book, "Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann" on command of the McCanns: Carter Ruck had threatened Amazon with a Lawsuit if they continued to sell the book. NOT TO MENTION THEIR MORTGAGE! It's millions of pounds given by compassionate people, surely not intended for private use? And last but not least the more than 14 million from the British taxpayer for the money Guzzling "Operation Grange" which has achieved nothing at all...

[@CricketEngland]

Of course the parents should have been questioned after all 90% of the time it’s the parents or one of them that’s at fault

[@Alextillom]

Ah I love the obscure claim of fact. Got a source?

[@outsidersongs2682]

Made up data... check. Not understanding the processes involved... check. There is a very big difference between being questioned (which all parents are in such tragedies) and being named a formal suspect in front of the world's media. Without any court worthy evidence, I may add.

[@ruthbashford3176]

@@outsidersongs2682 If you research the case you will find there is plenty of 'worthy' evidence that Kate and Gerry are involved in their daughter's disappearance. What you will not find is any evidence of an abduction. And despite the BBC claiming the Portuguese police have apologised to the McCanns there is no evidence they have. Remember Bilton's claim in the 2017 Panorama programme about the case that Martin Smith changed his mind about seeing Gerry McCann, that wasn't true either. Just more BBC nonsense. Last year the media claimed fibres from Madeleine's pyjamas were found in Breuckner's van and that wasn't true. So many lies There will be no justice for Madeleine There will be no justice for her parents. They will be greatly relieved

[@ruthbashford3176]

@@Alextillom I thought everyone knew that in the majority of child disappearances either the parents or someone known to the child is involved. The only evidence Madeleine was abducted are the self-serving statements of her parents.

[@moneysports1793]

@@AlextillomWHY WONT THEY TAKE A POLYGRAPH

[@somethingaboutyou-r3i]

Is everyone crazy??? These parents were getting drunk like all UKs coming here and left 3 young children ALONE, they should have been arrested in the spot and the other sons delivered to social services. After all these years we are still talking about this?? How about the other dozens missing? Has the "father" know any nuclear secrets to keep authorities digging around ? That disgrace of parents should be in jail...

[@TonyOldskool]

Could not agree more, still bewilders me why they never got charged with neglect.

[@orkneyancestor2059]

@ceooflonelinessinc.267 ?

[@geral096]

Weren't they just having dinner?

[@TonyOldskool]

Can anyone explain why they were never charged with neglect? if this was wee Jimmy & Anne from the council estate they would have been hung drawn & quartered, wee Jimmy & Anne would not be so bloody stupid in the first instance to leave their 3 kids alone in a room in a foreign Country right enough. I hope to god Maddie is still alive, but it's not looking

[@mattb6704]

Jimmy and Anne aren’t council estate names.

[@paulthomas963]

UK government cover-up. What motive the UK govt had to do I don't know, but it's a fact Brown leaped in and blackmailed the Portuguese govt to fire Amaral.

[@LivingroomTV-me9oz]

I thought it had been demonstrated that the parents’ behaviour was very sus?

[@estebancomulet]

No, only by online conspiracy nuts and alleged KZbin body language experts. There was actually nothing unusual in their behaviour - there is a whole spectrum of how different people react under stress, with adrenaline thrown in, and a personality type that might not tally with someone else's. They profile as cerebral, detached doctors - something you have to be in that field - so some people couldn't;t relate to that and on a gut instinct felt 'something was iffy about them'. But it amounted to little more than reverse snobbery. Anyone who has examined the totality of evidence can see they weren't involved in her disappearance other than to leave her alone in the flat while they had dinner.

[@geoffbirchall7552]

The parents know what happened to their daughter!

[@theadance7282]

Absolutely, just like the Jon Benet Ramsey case, we may never find out the whole truth.

[@jursey86]

They sold that child . It was a sacrifice

[@duellona31]

True👍 I dont believe …. I watched to document yestarday I think They know true…. The father is big liar and mather is affected

[@Rob-e4f]

Why theyve a right to question parents who leave there babies alone very bizarre behaviour to say the least!

[@onlyme219]

My parents left me home alone at that age, nothing bizarre about it. I'm still alive and now 57, just saying

[@catalinacurio]

@@onlyme219 She was three years old!!! The twins were younger.

[@onlyme219]

@@catalinacurio Twins?

[@caravanstuff2827]

If they we're uneducated meth heads maybe..but ones a doctor for god's sake..still doesn't add up to me!!.❤️🇬🇧

[@caravanstuff2827]

​@@onlyme219big difference between being at home and being in another country in a strange hotel!!.❤️🇬🇧

[@sooticablue1664]

The only people who should be apologising are her two pathetic excuses for parents who left her on her own so they could go and get drunk. I still despise the pair of them to this day, they make me sick.

[@nigel8499]

and you clearly are absolutely perfect in every way.

[@geoffbirchall7552]

Well said!👍

[@sooticablue1664]

@@nigel8499 I’d never, ever leave a child alone so I could go and get pissed. I’d never leave a four year old alone at all. Ever. I wouldn’t leave anyone’s child never mind my own! I don’t have to be perfect for those two to be scum. They should be in jail.

[@sooticablue1664]

@@geoffbirchall7552 thank you. I still feel so strongly about this all these years later.

[@adamwilliams9487]

Good for you for stating your useless opinion.

[@alive4627]

I smell BS. I have nothing but respect for Goncalo Amaral and the work of the Portuguese police. Also for the cadaver and blood dogs Eddy and Keela. I am sickened by British mainstream media’s biased reporting on this case, and attempts to place guilt on an endless stream of misfits. I think John Wedger hit the nail on the head.

[@thelmarose2782]

I agree. And of course they can't go back on what was said and done in order to protect the P.M. at the time.....

[@gerbil61]

Did Jon Wedger work on this case?

[@GypsyHunter232UK]

Richplanet..Richard d hall has done a 14 hour factual indepth investigation in to the MCSCAMMS and can be seen at Richplanet..

[@GooseYear]

Here is something for you to think about: There were a total of 18 forensic samples that were tested for DNA. None of them gave a conclusive match to Madeleine's DNA. That on its own ought to throw a serious doubt into theories that Madeleine's body (alive or deceased) was in any significant and direct physical (skin to surface) contact with any of the surfaces where the UK scent dogs (Eddie and Keela) alerted. As for the dog alerts, please pay attention to the dog handler's conclusion, particularly about the possibility of cross contamination. Below is an extract from Martin Grime's report [in PJ files]. I hope that this helps you to understand the case better. ------------ "The dogs only alerted to property associated with the McCann family. The dog alert indications MUST be corroborated if to establish their findings as evidence. Therefore in this particular case, as no human remains were located, the only alert indications that may become corroborated are those that the CSI dog indicated by forensic laboratory analysis. My professional opinion as regards to the EVRD's alert indications is that it is suggestive that this is 'cadaver scent' contaminant. This does not however suggest a motive or suspect as cross contamination could be as a result of a number of given scenarios and in any event no evidential or intelligence reliability can be made from these alerts unless they can be confirmed with corroborating evidence." --------- The only object that in my opinion could have caused cross-contamination is the Cuddle Cat. It is quite possible that someone (Madeleine or one of her siblings) dropped the Cuddle Cat behind the sofa. This toy could also likely have cross-contaminated Kate's clothes and the master room.

[@GooseYear]

It's my opinion that Mr Amaral allowed his suspicions to overtake objective and unbiased detective work. He doesn't seem to have appreciation for the possibility of cross-contamination.

[@ydnallah1541]

Yet they never got charged with negligence of their children 🤔

[@nasdkhan254]

Leaving 3 kids under 5 in a hot country , unattended. Fact

[@estebancomulet]

Hadn't considered that angle before.

[@callumbush1]

The parents are responsible they should be in jail!

[@callumbush1]

@ceooflonelinessinc.267 they left little children alone in a hotel room whilst they went out for dinner they should have been jailed for that alone!

[@adamwilliams9487]

@@callumbush1that doesn’t make them guilty of murder…

[@callumbush1]

@@adamwilliams9487 are you dumb I didn't say that I said that they're responsible as they left their children alone in a strange hotel room whilst they went out eating and drinking. When they develop brain transplants you should be at the front of the queue!

[@callumbush1]

@ceooflonelinessinc.267 ok dummy you leave your babies and toddlers alone in a strange hotel!

[@jezedwards3858]

@@adamwilliams9487Strange that YOU are the one bringing up the subject of murder…! The comment simply stated a fact, they should be in jail for criminal neglect. It is illegal in the UK and in Portugal to leave children alone. It’s called “abandonment” - “failure to protect”. These laws are not only there to protect children from abduction, they are in place to protect children from idiotic parents who are unaware that children do all kinds of silly things when unattended which could be dangerous. Add to this the fact that children get scared when left alone…especially in a strange place, as these children did, it’s pretty clear that the McCanns were without doubt guilty of cold hearted criminal neglect.

[@TRUETALK11613]

They should have been charged for neglect

[@jamesanthony4034]

And for the death of their daughter. Let alone the subsequent cover-up. Ditto the British government, police, the BBC, and the rest of the British media for their complicty in the cover-up for the McCann's.

[@bjornsundberg1947]

@@jamesanthony4034 I agree

[@lisarasich5233]

Agreed

[@Werderina]

In „missing“ children’s cases parents are always the first to suspect. And the way the McCanns behaved was more than strange. I still believe they know very well what happened to Madeline.

[@hubertpierre9507]

Agree

[@irenemorley75]

Yes I think so too.

[@Commander_Bern]

They sold her.

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

Amen 🙏

[@yankee2666]

What you believe means nothing, Columbo.

[@Duncan23]

Still waiting for then to be charged with child neglect

[@anna3046]

This is not true! The PJ actually denies this. Under article 138 of the Portuguese Criminal Code provides for criminal liability for leaving in danger. A child under 12 who is left alone is considered abandoned. " It is known from the law that (according to Article 138 of the Criminal Code) ... "whoever endangers the life of another person by putting him in a situation where he is unable to defend himself, or who leaves him when his duty was to guard, supervise or assist him, will be punished to 5 years imprisonment" (excluding aggravating circumstances for an offence against physical integrity or death).

[@moneysports1793]

TAKE A POLY PARENTS. TAKE A POLY.

[@jezedwards3858]

They wouldn’t even answer 48 straightforward questions.

[@stevefowler3398]

Too late now. After 17 years of repeating the lies, those lies are now embedded as truth in their feeble little minds. Polygraphs work on blood pressure. So there is nothing now to get them overly excited.

[@catman4471]

@@jezedwards3858 They answered all questions the day after Maddie went missing and Kate answered all questions in an 8 hour interview on the 6th September. She refused to answer those 48 questions on the 7th September when questioned as a suspect.

[@jezedwards3858]

@@catman4471 you’re either very new to this and therefore ignorant of the truth or, your just one of a dwindling number of McCann supporters. If you are the former, you need to do your homework and ask yourself why the McCanns have been found against in the European Court of Human Rights and all the courts leading to it. If you are the latter, you are as disgusting as they are and, you are losing. Contrary to another lie put out there by the McCanns, “the majority” of people are on to them.

[@ruthbashford3176]

The Portuguese police did visit the McCanns but their statement about the visit says nothing about apologising to them. Why would they apologise? What probably happened is the McCanns told the BBC about the visit and said the police had apologised when they hadn't

[@paulthomas963]

Yup. The British media have spent the last 16 years lying on behalf of the McCanns. Ask yourselves why. That's the real mystery.

[@Wonderkid44]

This is crazy that this is still news to this day.

[@CricketEngland]

It’s still news because the McCans have kept it in the news

[@rui569]

still missing

[@CricketEngland]

@@rui569 dead years ago in my view

[@wildgamer321]

There are many people who are murdered every day,

[@SaltyCanadian]

@@CricketEnglandI mean no shit she is but never found so we can’t say for sure

[@lucybrowne62]

And when there was an independent investigation into this case her parents and their friends were not part of it. Of course when a child goes missing those who were with her would be investigated too. Much time spent on clearing their names rather than finding their daughter. Something is not right about this whole case

[@spiritfang36aj47]

You have got it twisted. Much on the case was spent trying to pin it on them rather than actually searching for Madeleine. The Portuguese police were so obsessed with pinning it on the Mccanns they completely forgot about the missing child.

[@ruthbashford3176]

@@spiritfang36aj47 That is ridiculous. Why would the Portuguese police want to frame innocent people and leave an abductor of small children on the loose in Praia da Luz? Guilty people often try to discredit police investigating their crimes.

[@bramsrockhopper3377]

What? Police ALWAYS question the parents after a child goes missing. Parents are always the first suspects in the absence of other obvious culprits, so in suspecting the McCanns weren’t they just doing their job? There was certainly evidence that the parents MIGHT have been involved (the changing stories of their group, for example), so of course the police had to investigate them. In what other cases have the police apologised for suspecting and questioning the parents after a child went missing? There was a media circus whipped up over this case immediately by the British press at the time (in a way that hasn’t always happened for other similar missing children), and very high profile British government figures immediately gave the McCanns their support and resources before anyone knew whether those parents were guilty or not, and the Portuguese police were up against all that from the start. This happening now seems extremely odd. I don’t understand why on Earth this would be done at such a late stage. Just my opinion.

[@wutheringheights7053]

Do you mind telling me the contradicting stories of the group? Like what did they say

[@bramsrockhopper3377]

@@wutheringheights7053 You’d need to look at the actual statements to really go through it, but essentially there was a lot of contradictions about who was where and when. They kept changing their statements to try to agree with each other. Almost as if they were making up a story and hadn’t really memorised it very well before making their statements… Very fishy imho

[@ruthbashford3176]

@@wutheringheights7053 The statements of the McCanns and their friends, the Tapas 7 are in the Portuguese police files and can be read online.

[@Vaahteranlehti]

​@@wutheringheights7053You can find their statements in PJfiles in Google.

[@ruthbashford3176]

@@wutheringheights7053 The Portuguese police files on the case were released to the public in August 2008. The police statements of the McCanns and their friends make interesting reading because of the amount of inconsistencies in them.

[@caravanstuff2827]

Well they shouldn't...what parent would leave their children unattended in a hotel well they went to dinner.. I've always said they should be charged with willful child neglect..they have a nerve playing the victim card!!!.❤️🇬🇧

[@TheRestInPeace]

Portuguese Police didnt need to apologise - they caused the death of their daughter, the GNR report of the " weird reaction of the parents on their arrival" and some investigative steps that the british embassy was fast to "forbid" and lots of facts the Scotland Yard decided to ignore, tells a history of 2 well connected people that got away with Negligent Homicide

[@shelleyemond1293]

So desperately sick in the head 🤑

[@anna4642]

I'm Portuguese and there was no apology from Portugal! This is a lie!

[@stevefowler3398]

Well connected indeed! To various "high ranking" abusers.

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

BBC back them and support them.

[@NoWindNoSunNoPower]

I don’t understand. In such cases the parents have to be suspects unless they have an absolutely 100% alibi.

[@outsidersongs2682]

They are not declared formal suspects though. Family are just potential suspects, therefore are treated and classed as innocent. Everyone in such situations is questioned but when someone is eventually named a formal suspect it is very different. This means the police have a court-worthy case against them, a portfolio of concrete evidence. They did not have a case against the McCanns, not any courtworthy evidence but they declared them formal suspects anyway and did so in front of the world's media.

[@estebancomulet]

There is zero evidence connecting them barring them leaving her alone

[@NoWindNoSunNoPower]

@@estebancomulet That's now. I'm talking about the immediate days after the disappearance.

[@mattb6704]

@@estebancomuletthere’s also zero evidence of an actual break in or abduction. Accidental death more likely than abduction.

[@estebancomulet]

But if she died accidentally you're then making an enormous leap to the fact that - I can only assume - you think the parents (trained medical practitioners) concealed, then disposed of the body in the full glare of the world's media? Why on earth would they do this? And forgive me if I'm assuming your theory wrong. But it makes ZERO sense for them to do that, as opposed to the rational decision to call an ambulance. Seems so much more outrageously far-fetched, than an opportunist predator, of which there are precedents (Sarah Payne and Genette Tate), and which fit the profile of this case much more readily.@@mattb6704​

[@joedudz]

So they apologise for doing their job and reaching the right conclusion in the first place. Anyone with half a brain cell knows this child died in the apartment.

[@catman4471]

They didn't reach the right conclusion. There were too many mistakes and misunderstandings which led Amaral to reach the wrong conclusions. Try getting your data from the official police files.

[@joedudz]

@@catman4471 Try using your cognitive skills if you have any.

[@catman4471]

@@joedudz Yes, I've cognited to the fact that most people who claim the Mccanns were involved in Maddie's disappearance have got their 'facts' from the wrong sources, and that the majority of them refuse to check their 'facts' with the official police files. But then again, I cognited to the herd mentality when I was 4 years old.

[@irisheyes-xz8hd]

@@catman4471 UK tabloids - which for so long have been so ‘anti-Portuguese’ in their reporting of the Madeleine McCann mystery - are changing their tune following publication of the Supreme Court judgement which stressed that parents Kate and Gerry McCann have not been proved innocent in the context of their daughter’s disappearance. 2017

[@ruthbashford3176]

@@catman4471 You know very well Amaral was working as part of a team and it was not just his conclusion that the McCanns were involved in their daughter's disappearance. People often try and discredit the police investigating crimes they're guilty of. The McCanns started doing that on the very night Madeleine was supposed to have been abducted. Instead of searching for their daughter they phoned the folks back home to tell them a made up story about Madeleine being abducted through jemmied shutters possibly by a paedophile and they also said the police were doing nothing to find her.

[@louisegoodyear2515]

Christian Brunecker had nothing to do with Madeleine's disappearance, he's just the 'scapegoat' the parents know exactly what happened to that poor little innocent baby!

[@Adnaan98-ONIIL]

I was a school kid when she disappeared and now I’m 31. This girl is long gone give it a rest!!!

[@Alleellaa]

They're not going to "give it a rest" when the evidence contradicts the parents narrative. A child is gone. The evidence doesn't align, nor does the behavior of the parents. People aren't going to let it go until her body is found and she gets the justice she deserves.

[@geminievil]

​@@Alleellaa what if her body was cremated and can't be found? Will they search forever?

[@Rhiannawasherex]

@@geminievilexactly my thought!

[@px7wu]

i have no idea what happened. i do know those two made my hair stand on end

[@maribelviering3863]

Me too from the first time I saw the parents !!! And afterwards their behaviour

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

Police have nothing to apologise for.

[@razworthers_3601]

She was not kidnapped, and they know it there sick people

[@MrJamiez]

They should arrest the parents

[@kory6695]

Apologies !!??? Arrest and charge them ..they lost a whole human being????....

[@adamwilliams9487]

Arrest them for what?

[@singer-it7tq]

​@adamwilliams9487 child neglect at the very very least duh 🙄

[@adamwilliams9487]

@@singer-it7tq so it went from murder to neglect?

[@jezedwards3858]

@@adamwilliams9487Abandonment, neglect, failure to protect are all examples of criminal neglect in the UK; in Portugal leaving a child under 12 alone is considered to be abandonment. What the man is trying to get across to you is that, whether they killed her or not, at the very least they are guilty of “Criminal Neglect”. This is an indisputable fact.

[@adamwilliams9487]

@@jezedwards3858 no, you people def thought that they did the actual crime. Don’t change up the story since the police found many leads pointing away from the parents

[@milkyvanlife]

They know what happened to their daughter.

[@maribelviering3863]

I think the parents should apologise by the Portuguese police !!!!!

[@tanyap7014]

They did their job, everyone was a suspect.... very sorry this child never re appeared. 😢

[@TheCommunicationCoach]

They screwed up badly, she could've been rescued.

[@b4isleep1]

Actually they failed. The child was never found.

[@davidchamberlain5425]

​Rescued from what 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔..This farce is well well past its sell by date ...They should have been brought in and questioned thoroughly ...

[@davidchamberlain5425]

The parents are the only ones who screwed up badly..

[@benjamindover4337]

She did reappear months ago as a student in the nethrlands. The press hushed that up real quick.

[@KentRoads]

They should apologise to their child...

[@shoot_the_glass5654]

I've done some digging on this and from what I've read it makes me wonder is Maddie their legit child and this was a bit of a set up. 🤷‍♂️

[@andrereloaded1425]

Let's ignore the cadaver dogs finding traces of corpse in their hire car. The BBC never talk about this.

[@hollytalbot6695]

👍👍👍

[@5554132]

🐕👁👁🧪

[@estebancomulet]

Only works in collaboration with broader forensic evidence, which doesn’t exist. This is very selective. Totality of evidence does not support the theory the parents did it.

[@mattb6704]

Their latest doc didn’t mention there’s no evidence of a break in or abduction either. They forgot to explain that they refused to answer 40 questions too.

[@estebancomulet]

Yes, true, totality of evidence suggests an opportunist abductor. Likely Maddie walked into he road searching for her parents who had earlier told her where they were eating, and she was snatched, not dissimilar to the case of Roy Whiting/Sarah Payne. Profiles as a very similar case. If parents were guilty and there was sufficient forensic and circumstantial evidence to back it up beyond a reasonable doubt they would be in prison. They have no super powers - they are just two doctors. They'd be in jail if there was a shred of evidence. Also what are you implying they actually 'did' to Maddie?? @@mattb6704

[@michellegomes2030]

Apologise for what? They're doing their job, these two ain't fooling nobody.

[@joehamiltonsongs]

The McCanns are as believable as the BBC….😂😂😂😂😂

[@deanrose245]

Maybe that drink and dinner wasn’t worth it!!! You are still to blame

[@mjc5509]

The case will never be solved ,, for the simple reason it makes a lot of money for all involved.

[@doygazgar]

They have nothing to apologise for 😅 they should've thrown them in jail until they told the world what they did with her body?

[@adamwilliams9487]

For what? Murder?

[@mattb6704]

Should never have let them return home when they bottled it and caught a plane back to the UK when they realised nobody was buying their story. “We will leave no stone unturned in the search for our daughter” said two days before they refused to answer any questions and bolted.

[@theman2017inc]

Almost 16 and half years late… The parents, right or wrong were slated cause they left the children unattended/ unprotected while dining out No winners here

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

"Slated"? They should have been arrested and charged.

[@MR-fy5qx]

This is a LIE. Nobody apologised. And they don't have nothing to apologise for.

[@Yellow-2001]

Very terrible story. She would have been 20 by now.

[@Pie-zb1jm]

They should have been charged for neglect! They left 3 children under the age of four alone. Wealthy couple on holiday in another country. Why not hire a nanny for the trip?

[@stevefowler3398]

They were not wealthy at that time. SHE was unemployed. He is a hospital employee. Neither are doctors!

[@deepzepp4176]

lol. The BBC thinking that we all don't know.

[@ramonknijff6316]

The establishment is committed to ensuring that their house of cards never collapses! Heads of respectively: politicians, Leicestershire Police, the Met, Clarence Mitchell, Rupert Murdoch's Imperium and everyone else involved are continued under protection!! And so Madeleine has never had a voice in this insane situation since 2007.... The question is, whether she ever going to have it and her right to rest in peace? That seems to be the only real Justice on this case....

[@AnnathePiana]

Leave your kid alone in a foreign country, and then demand an apology for being treated as suspects when she goes missing... People were getting too close to the truth, so this is for the benefit of all the average-intelligence population who believe anything they see or hear on the news.

[@catman4471]

A person of reasonable intelligence would get their information from verifiable sources such as the polive files, not a book written by an ex detective who made many mistakes and had misunderstandings.

[@sharonhopton]

What for??? Guilty as hell!

[@NxDoyle]

Fool.

[@NxDoyle]

Thanks for the stunning insight, Sherlock.

[@sharonhopton]

@@NxDoyle Wake up moron!

[@stuartrobinson2456]

they were days away from being arrested and charged with abandonment

[@claudiadalmo2288]

Are we still here? Come on, She was not abducted

[@jezedwards3858]

NO THEY DIDN’T. Why are you lying…???

[@BS-sn2fb]

Parents are to blame, this could have been preventable. Too young to just leave alone like that WTF man

[@officialtrenchboys]

I firmly believe that these two did it, when you watch the interview they just don’t act in the way any normal person would

[@stevefowler3398]

Here is an extract from wikipedia..... Most commonly, women kill their babies for altruistic and/or psychotic reasons. Jurors frequently view mothers who kill their babies in a sympathetic light, ascribing such behavior to a mental disorder or hormonal factors.

[@bjornsundberg1947]

They behave exactly as guilty parents would do , who are in denial. They wanted publicity around the case in order to convey the message about their innocence to the whole world, but the whole world eventually began to suspect that they were involved so they went into hiding for more than 16 years, which is what any guilty suspect would do in a similar situation.

[@jonrodrigues1]

How come did the british police investigators be allowed to be involved in a crime committed in portuguese land?? Is beyond me. Politics, influences, and Shadow games. The portuguese investigator knows exactly who should be behind bars. British police should never have been allowed to be involved in a crime outside their land and jurisdiction. They totally covered up. The parents are guilty to their core!

[@jmichelleART]

Corruption and lies

[@wulliethedent]

Parents are the guilty ones.

[@irisheyes-xz8hd]

BBC throwing around misinformation the pj have denied this so called apology why would they need to apologise 😂

[@sl5154]

Arrest the parents.

[@stevefowler3398]

Most commonly, women kill their babies for altruistic and/or psychotic reasons. Jurors frequently view mothers who kill their babies in a sympathetic light, ascribing such behavior to a mental disorder or hormonal factors.

[@killerheelscrime]

What do the Portuguese police have to apologise for? The ex lead detective of the case won his legal case against the mccanns. The mccanns refused to have a polygraph test. A spokesman for the mccanns said that the family would not take a lie detecter test as they have nothing to hide. But surely if you have nothing to hide you would end the 20 years of speculation and take the test. Makes no sense. And the "suspect" although a degenerate is not involved in this case. This case is like the jon benét ramsey case in many aspects. Both girls died accidentally and both parents covered it up imo

[@stevetoyne]

Why did the Portpolice apologise? They were just doing there job and came to the correct conclusion. The fact the McCanns disagreed with that conclusion is irrelevant. Similar to the McCanns asking for sniffer dogs to be involved but then disagreeing with their findings. I have a hunch that the ruth will ve revealed before too long.

[@birilol]

She’ll never be found because they killed her

[@pagesinyellow]

According to Martin Kayes, a subject matter expert who worked on several television Mccann documentaries, this is untrue. "The BBC have got things very wrong in their new Panorama documentary. Our source in the Portuguese police (PJ) has told us what really happened earlier this year when the PJ sent a team to visit Madeleine’s parent." He later stated the following. "I can say now what this relates to: the Portuguese police did not apologise to Kate and Gerry as the BBC claim, their journalist must have read it in a magazine called Sábado as that’s where the incorrect claim appeared recently. The BBC didn’t fact-check it. The facts are that the PJ did send a team to brief the McCann’s, but in relation to the latest in the investigation and to let them know that the activity on the case is primarily being carried out by the German authorities at the moment. (The rest of the Panorama episode was just a rehashing the “evidence” from the newspapers that Mark and I found didn’t hold up to scrutiny when we investigated it 2 years ago).' I have tried to post a link to this but my comments containing links keep getting deleted.

[@patriciawhite1206]

The parents are 100 responsible and should have been charged themselves for not having supervision and allowing their daughter to be god only know to happen to her..

[@paulinecrabbe7383]

What a joke!! They killed their little girl and get an apology.????? Maddie is not lost. They know exactly where Maddie is. They washed her little body out to sea!

[@stevefowler3398]

An extract from wikipedia:- Most commonly, women kill their babies for altruistic and/or psychotic reasons. Jurors frequently view mothers who kill their babies in a sympathetic light, ascribing such behavior to a mental disorder or hormonal factors.

[@tinamartina1801]

THEY ARE NOT INNOCENT 😇. THEY ARE GUILTY AS SIN . SHAME ON THEM.

[@Thekingdomof0z]

Moron

[@AEJones-dl9nn]

This story is so weird. It implicates so many people. They should just shut up about it. The more they bring it up the more they incriminate themselves.

[@MississippiHotpocket]

Not talking to cops after she went missing. They know a lot more than there letting on

[@AChoosen1]

Don’t believe the parents. Something sadistic about this.

[@galvanicmass]

Wouldnt of happened if u didnt leave your kids by themselves. Enjoy your book money.

[@billiemunchen]

The parents are LYING. They also left three kids under 4 by themselves in a holiday apartment, without locking the doors, even. The parents are responsible.

[@JamesJohnAgar]

I watched the Panorama program and it was just a character assassination job to paint Christian Brückner as the main behind her disappearance. This comes even though ex cop Mark Williams Thomas has said he believes it isn't him and that the cell phone technology doesn't add up. Second listen to Sonia Poulton and her video where she said they just pulled this guy out at the right time because of his criminal background. Yet the parents haven't taken polygraph tests, haven't been charged with child neglect, haven't really justified why they left their kids on their own. What parents go to a Foreign Country and leave their kids on their own?? Why they hired a PR person first before anything? The police always say start with the family first when ever a child goes missing and this is what the police on both sides failed to do!! I would also like a reimbursement of my taxes which are being wasted on this case year on year with nothing to show for it, yet nothing has gone to the family of Ben Needham who went missing in Greece some years ago I believe and his family have had little to no media coverage so something doesn't add up with this McCann case!!

[@caravanstuff2827]

Yes , she was getting to the age for school and out of their control...just saying!!.❤️🇬🇧

[@bjornsundberg1947]

Sandra Felgueiras apparently appears in this BBC Panorama Show. She asked Gerry a year after Madeleine's disappearance about his view on the two British sniffer dogs that discovered the scent of death in the McCanns' apartment and on items only belonging to them, whereupon Gerry replied "Ask the Dogs Sandra". Has Sandra Felgueiras, who once seemed to have common sense, completely lost her mind?? Who died in the McCanns' apartment if it wasn't Madeleine??? What person abducts a dead girl? Or, better question perhaps, What person kills a a little girl and then let her lie and leak substances of death for at least an hour and thereafter return to the place of the crime in order to kidnap a cadaver???? The answer is not Mr Scapegoat Brückner !!!!!!!!

[@patterdale4332]

Let's drug the kids go out and get pissed and how often did they do this

[@estebancomulet]

No evidence the kids were drugged. That was a tabloid fabrication. Maybe do research.

[@catman4471]

No proof they drugged their kids.

[@stevetoyne]

Why did the Portuguese police apologise to the McCanns. The police did a goid job of investigating the case and came up with the correct solution. The fact that the McCanns didn't like that solution is irrelevant.

[@truthteller339]

Always suspect the in laws before the outlaws.

[@IPirata-FM]

Portugueses Known what happened since The start! 3 Key points... Instead of Calling The Police in the night of disappear, they call The UK prime minister! 2nd; PJ & Scotland Yard found conclusiv proofs of negligence, blood, and cadaver odor in the Room at the Hotel, and as soon as they are labeled as suspects they leave Portugal... Gonçalo Amaral PJ Director responsable by The case have a book where he explain The case.

[@lukebren3890]

Everyone needs to see the work of Peter Hyatt on this case, there’s no doubt they are guilty and got away with this sickening crime

[@bjornsundberg1947]

The ECHR ruled in favor of Gonzalo Amaral, who is still pursuing the hypothesis of the McCanns' being involved in the disappearance of their daughter. Should the ECHR apologize to the McCanns for giving Gonzalo Amaral the right to publish his opinion of the McCanns' guilt.

[@ramonknijff6316]

Well said!

[@julietphillips1991]

Apology was not called for. They contributed in a number of ways to their daughter's "disappearance."

[@TheDefJamm]

Liars. The parents know exactly what happened. They will be judged eventually when they meet the man upstairs………

[@ruthbashford3176]

There are NO suspects other than the two identified by the Portuguese police back in the summer of 2007. They were and remain the prime suspects until such time as something crops up that might exonerate them. The likelihood of that happening after all this time hovers around zero.

[@stevefowler3398]

FYI. From wikipedia. Most commonly, women kill their babies for altruistic and/or psychotic reasons. Jurors frequently view mothers who kill their babies in a sympathetic light, ascribing such behavior to a mental disorder or hormonal factors.

[@DarkhorseSJ]

Parents did it. 100%. They should have been investigated more thoroughly not less.

[@estebancomulet]

You should contact the police with your evidence then.

[@brak1827]

Don’t say that 🤬 they didnt for sure

[@catman4471]

Try getting your information from the correct sources instead of from an ex detective who messed up the case.

[@user-wt3bk9nl5x]

Such LIES. LIARS.

[@jeepstuff4004]

Parents were responsible by being negligent. Who leaves 3 kids, 2 babies alone

[@gonnievanherwijnen7066]

is it normal Madelins mother katy talking o tv about her beautiful genitals. Not 1 mother would talk about that. And what about the dogs smelling kadaversmell in the room.

[@duellona31]

I dont believe the parents🤷🏻‍♀️

[@earnold1896]

I never did agree with their story of leaking meat in the boot (hence a scent) and the back door of the car being left open for quite a while. It wasn't only behind the sofa the dogs alerted to either. As reported it was in a cupboard in the room if true (reported in a documentary). People buy meat in bags duh. It doesn't leak in a car. I saw the documentary years ago and it did show the dogs honing in on the bottom of the cupboard in the earlier part of the police work. (I really hope it's not as it seems, naturally, ) and that Madeleine might turn up one day.