Madoko: a scholarly markdown

[@aneet84]

LaTeX user and applied math professor here.. my experience with Markdown is that it allows me to very quickly created math intensive beamer slides JIT for class. This is useful. Once the markdown is done, I can complete the "heavy lifting" (as you aptly put) by using pandoc.

[@postylem]

Was this a talk from before Pandoc took over this space?

[@DinHamburg]

looks intersting - but who needs that? For very lightweight authoring there is Markdown, for medium-weight authoring there is Word and for heavyliftig there is Latex - what else ?

[@matthijshebly]

Latex is too cumbersome for some people. The syntax is verbose, hard to learn and remember, etc. If you just want to get work done, instead of having to deal with all Latex's quirks and idiosyncrasies, but want Latex's undeniably beautiful output, then this is great. Word is a pain... It always messes up my documents if they grow beyond just a few pages.

[@djd34d14]

You even mention word in the same breath as markdown and LaTeX? Not even close to the same. Here's an example where I could see this coming in handy: say I'm writing up some notes for some kind research or class that involves equations and but is majority text. Markdown is obviously easier until it comes to the equations so the integration makes this useful there. Semi niche but looks to serve that niche quite well. Having used LaTeX for this type of situation before, I would've really appreciated this. Word, on the other hand, is useless.

[@aneet84]

LaTeX user and applied math professor here.. my experience with Markdown is that it allows me to very quickly created math intensive beamer slides JIT for class. This is useful. Once the markdown is done, I can complete the "heavy lifting" (as you aptly put) by using pandoc.

[@Utku1526]

I don't think these 3 are related that much. You don't do typesetting with markdown. You transpile it into HTML and typeset using CSS. Markdown is useful for when you need a medium to write that is not as cumbersome as HTML. Word has typesetting and is kinda easy to use but you cannot convert word into html or some other format that easily. It is pretty much useless for git and stuff. (La)TeX is nicer in this regard as it is plaintext, but then you need to know A LOT to get your job done. Also it is not so good if you don't need typesetting but need just the math stuff. Markdown is really nice for blogs/git repos etc. I think this makes a lot of sense

[@heathriley3692]

This seems like "Old Microsoft": Embrace. Extend. Extinguish. Edit: Maybe I'm just not getting the underlying advantage of this over one of the already existing Markdown standards. It just seems like they see the fragmentation, and are creating a tool to 'save' us. Despite mkdocs and pandoc already existing, along with numerous vim/emacs plugins, atom plugins, and so on to either convert the many 'flavors' of markdown into other formats, or the tools to aid in the writing like the live previews and whatnot. I'm not the knee-jerk Microsoft loather that I once was. Microsoft has come a long way in the last 10-15 years, not to mention the whole of the mid to late 90s. They deserved every ounce of my loathing in the "Linux is Cancer" days, and especially in the E-E-E days mentioned originally. Granted, this video -- I just noticed -- is from 2016, and all three comments on it, including this one are from the end of 2018 and beginning of 2019 without 'Madoko' being a *thing* that I've seen or heard of in use. :) So there is that.

[@matthijshebly]

"Old Microsoft"? Microsoft under Satya Nadella is nothing like Microsoft under Steve Ballmer.

[@MrKrtek00]

In 4 years: 5 000 views, 8 comments... What a threat to open source, I am trembling.

[@heathriley3692]

@@MrKrtek00 Try reading passed the fold to the very next statement: "Maybe I'm just not getting the underlying advantage of this over one of the already existing Markdown standards." Or the last statements of it: Granted, this video -- I just noticed -- is from 2016, and all three comments on it, including this one are from the end of 2018 and beginning of 2019 without 'Madoko' being a thing that I've seen or heard of in use. :) So there is that. Context on a year-old comment was added a year ago.

[@MrKrtek00]

@@heathriley3692 If you have 2-3 unrelated or self-contradictory statements, I give sarcastic comments on the one Santa chooses.