MAGA Erupts After Musk, Ramaswamy Voice Support For H1-B1 Visas To Hire Foreign-Born Engineers

[@deshia1471]

My job was outsourced to a company in India.... They laid off an entire team to hire them. It wasn't because they couldn't find anyone to work. The company wanted to save a buck and didn't care how our lives were impacted.

[@12user-u5h]

This is different from the visa issue.

[@csfischer007]

Completely different issue.

[@ffff7423]

Do you think Trump wants to stop this? 😂

[@kekwayblaze3176]

DID YOU VOTE FOR TRUMP? Yes or no?

[@rouskeycarpel1436]

This is completely different from the visa issue.What you described is outsourcing.The H1B1 visa recipients would come to live in AMERICA.They also contribute to the money and pay taxes.There’s enough jobs for them and for native born workers

[@revvolutions]

Already did this scheme in Canada, it's going exactly how you think it would, probably worse. The oligarchy will do whatever it takes to avoid paying a livable wage.

[@oldmanhair0]

Agreed, it's a nightmare. Import millions of a single third world country, face massive societal change you likely will regret.

[@soberanisfam1323]

Are ppl recognizing the reality of capootalism? 😂

[@aleaiactaest8354]

Tariffs.

[@susansmith9263]

No wonder India has replaced Mexico as the top country receiving remittances from the USA. I remember Trump threatening to tax remittances in his 1st Term. India received $125 billion from Indians living in the USA. Imagine if that money was spent in the USA. American CEO's have an appetite for foreign workers from the most menial to high tech jobs. They can hold the Visa over their heads and for undocumented, threaten to deport them if they complain.

[@Sha-El]

Lol they already did this in places like Canada and the UK, there literally places like KFC and Subway which only has Indian workers, and they don't hire any body else, just Indians. I had to stopped going to KFC now, because I saw the workers using there bare hands to handle the food.

[@MAbdul-k3i]

Interesting fact. A large portion of H1B visa's are sponsored by Indian multinationals (Infosys, Wipro...etc) that have no interest in hiring Americans. They prefer Indians because H1-B visa holders are beholden to the firm and can be overworked long hours. Before burning out the H1B visa holder gets USA citizenship and leaves the sponsoring firm. The firm hires more H1-B visa holders from India to fill the vacancy and the cycle repeats. Good for Indians and Indian multinationals but not so good for Americans.

[@marcinmm3644]

That is good for americans also. Otherwise, if companies dont make good margins, they will migrate out of usa.

[@sreddy914]

Thank you for your support. In india we desperately want to retain our best talent. And stop the brain drain.

[@YoutubeGuru-h1w]

@@MAbdul-k3i Thanks Abdul. How is Pakistan doing?

[@MAbdul-k3i]

@@KZbinGuru-h1w Don't know. I just don't want the Doge squad to fire the most of the federal government and replace them with H1B recipients and AI.

[@YoutubeGuru-h1w]

@@MAbdul-k3i They will get fired due to AI. But in AI, easier prompt engineering jobs can be done by less techy people, but the rest will be done by techies, so it could be Indians in good percentage….even offshored overseas.

[@edwinabarton8077]

I worked for a large company for thirty years and watched them bring people in from India and forced our engineers to train same people. Then replaced them with people they trained. So this hiring cheap labor has been going on. Then CEOS make obscene amounts of money. Like I read where United Healthcare paid ten milion a year plus stock option to CEO that was shot to death. His worth at death was over forty three million. Just pure greed.

[@RB_GA]

What did you work as there? Janitor?

[@soberanisfam1323]

Just capitalist being capitalist, why are you so surprised? 😱 😊

[@tyvanhworkout]

Exactly! This is nothing new. I was a tech contractor in the late 90s/early 2000s and watched several corporations replace highly skilled American workers with lower paid H1-B visa foreigners as full-time employees, often trained by us contractors. There may be a shortage for certain skillsets but I'd say this is largely typical greedy corporate B.S.!

[@Tunnelvision18]

No you didn't. H1 visa is a lottery system only x amount are given out each year. Chances of the majority of engineers being replaced by foreign ones in a single company is highly unlikely.

[@soapwriter1]

@@Tunnelvision18 That's what the issue being discussed is. The proposal is to EMLIMINATE the cap for H1 Visa.

[@bedvyr]

These corporations dish out millions to import these workers. They pay for training, education, and all sorts of perks to foreigners while Americans starve and struggle to rent a studio apartment.

[@joeg6242]

They wouldn’t if they didn’t have to. The talent pool in this country isn’t very deep. Since the Department of education was established, test scores in this country have plummeted. We’re not leaders anymore.

[@elizabethlibero1878]

@@joeg6242 Depends on what state you are talking about. Red states have the worst scores.

[@CineGisticMedia]

Our ridiculous government price controlled racket known as higher education in this decade and last are making sure to promote bringing foreign in and offering payments. Americans still get the chance to go to the same schools without the need of all that money. They just need to do well and apply. And afford it. But our gov making sure we can't.

[@davidduggins1598]

You know not what you’re talking about

[@dhekwucieoejduf]

This is a lie. The immigrants have a fraction of american resources and work 20 times as harder. I work in tech. American college grads have 10x more training and knowledge than jndians and just refuse to work.

[@TheHoodVoice2024]

Americans can do the jobs, Vivek and Elon means its hard to get American cheap Labor

[@Aba-pq2bb]

I believe the U.S have enough workers for all kind of works, companies just have to reach out. We don't need foreign workers or just may be a fraction, I don't believe they got paid less than the American here. Every year there are over 50K students graduated. Just like the foreign workers, they just need to get the right training.

[@TheHoodVoice2024]

@Aba-pq2bb yes they do get paid much less than Americans do, people in India are being paid 5$ 8$ a hour for what Americans are getting paid 20$ 25$ hour to do. And Africans are getting paid 2$ 5$ an hour for AI jobs. I watched a documentary about Kenyans filing a class-action lawsuit against American AI companies under paying them and sometimes not paying them at all.

[@LimleyGilbert]

The American education system has declined significantly over the last few decades. The MAGA clan dislikes education and believes that college degrees aren't worth the paper they're printed on. The tech bros fooled the MAGAverse into thinking they cared for them, got their vote to seize the reigns of power, and now will only do what serves them profitably. We told you so.

[@ZzzzRR-r1c]

It’s always been a bout cheap labor. These same hypocrites cry about illegals but hire illegals for their hotels. They hate paying a decent wage because that would mean less profit

[@YoutubeGuru-h1w]

@@TheHoodVoice2024 They can pay market wages in those countries, do not have to be same as American wages.

[@whatthefkiswrongwithyoutube]

Funny how all the IT guys I know are concerned about being laid off, but sure, tell me more about this "shortage."

[@jakenobrakes]

There’s not much of a shortage in average IT people. That’s like anyone, but Talented, pioneering and willing to sacrifice more than the avg worker…. Yeah this country has been in a shortage for a loooong time. How else are we so far behind the asians

[@aardvark99rex14]

While I understand the need to bring in talent, if we use Musk and Vivek's logic, every country in Africa and most of the third world should replace their own native people and elite with skilled foreigners. Also, I'm very disappointed that Musk is throttling people who disagree with him on this issue on X!

[@angkhoa1216]

​@jakenobrakes it's called the O1 visa.

[@iaf010]

Your comment is simply ignorant. IT is a HUGE domain - there are hundreds of areas where specialists are in great shortage. Also laying off older technology IT engineers for newer technology IT engineers is routine and normal in the IT world. All the new technologies like Python,Ai/ Large language Modelers, Big Data Specialists, etc are in short supply. There are plenty of older technology engineers who cant find jobs also.

[@edfhobbies556]

@@iaf010 WSJ article covers this few to no sub categories in IT have a shortage. It's not just BAs or Tech 1s it's the whole sector. MAGA is lying about the shortage period

[@ShirleyAllen-d6u]

What can you expect : They are both foreigners, with businesses .

[@venkarri8534]

Vivek is NOT a foreigner. He’s a natural born citizen.

[@CPDealer]

@@venkarri8534his loyalty lies with India.

[@duparcg]

Vivek used a failed drug company as ipo with Nasdaq then dump the shares in investors. That’s how he became rich

[@duparcg]

Elon also used the stock market to raise money for Tesla with a blank check company

[@sammychem5920]

Vivek is an American, not foreign-born.

[@furtrapper11]

it should be illegal to pay foreign workers any less. We’ll see how employers like them apples.

[@MikeysChair]

You go take that job if you’re qualified!

[@terrancecloverfield6791]

@@MikeysChair That's the elephant in the room. Americans ARE qualified, but like Starbucks workers, they're not going to work for $78k in San Francisco or Fremont.

[@IsabellaHale]

YES.. that is part of the issue. and also the H1 B Visa employees are not treated fairly. I am an American and my son and both are educated and have worked in the both Medicine and Tech.. and worked w/ Indians but they work very hard and should be treated like Americans. EMPLOYERS should know better.

[@Cloudchopper-x1r]

@@randallwinters7387 No, that's American teenagers now who request $15.00 an hour to mow the lawn and then spend 4 hours what could have been done in one hour. I told one to leave after 2 hours. That was when the minimum wage was $15.00 an hour in CA it is now $20.00 an hour adn a lot of elderly people can no longer maintain their front property and cannot afford to pay a 13 year old $20.00 an hour.

[@IsabellaHale]

@@Cloudchopper-x1r I hear you. let's not go down the "agriculture/landscaping/ lawn mowing rabbit hole. :)

[@ZeeMyers-l6w]

NOT TODAY!! WE WANT LABOR TARIFFE'S FOR THE GREEDY EMPLOYERS

[@oldmanhair0]

Lol the MAGA bait and switch

[@ffff7423]

@@oldmanhair0 lol and now demanding tariffs cause their daddy told them that it fixes anything

Trump has flipped on all the suckers who voted for him .

[@jaymrn79]

At least we are willing to speak out against him. I would have liked to have seen that from those who voted for Biden

[@Rainy_Day12234]

Let the companies train Americans for the positions.

[@gladiator-007]

Keep dreaming 😂

[@soberanisfam1323]

That cost too much money. Cap. Ootalism is about maximizing profits. And Americans are too expensive

[@LimleyGilbert]

So now you want to limit who a free market corporation can hire for workers? MAGA is sounding more like the regulation-loving liberals they formerly opposed.

[@ChuckNorrizzed]

You’re expensive, whiney and care too much about pronouns.

[@mescellaneous]

they are qualified. i suspect the issue is that for some reason they find interviewing americans is not worth it, or maybe americans just cost more. but still, there is something strange about the visa workers. what happens there is they don't even bother having a selective interview process. they just hire these random people and see if they are frauds or not. they even pay them for 6 months until it's proven they don't actually know anything. they rather do that than consider americans. something strange is happening.

[@105tomo]

Shameful! You're elected to look out for American workers!

[@lolabunny9013]

Why did you think they would put America first ? They are billionaires and they weren’t elected. Now they are on control for the next four years. MAGA should be happy with President Musk.

[@ffff7423]

Elon Musk was a foreign worker

[@user-bq7ei7hj4b]

Elon Musk and and Vivek were not elected. they bought their way like wannabe aristocrat sugar daddys into government positions that will affect everyone, whether they voted for this president or not.

[@homeplanet365]

You use to have to win a war against a country to steal its brains.

[@813laker]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 u get what u vote for now hush

[@Ivan-kb2si]

Most of the H1B engineers go to the same schools as US citizens, we sit right next to each other, study tougher, only difference is Elon wants to exploit them for lower pay and not consider the US born engineer. Just look at an engineering career fair!

[@yannip2083]

How much lower is their lower pay? How much would an American be paid for the same job?

[@sb5224]

@@yannip2083 17% of US physicians are on h1b. Would you say they are underpaid labor at 350K/ year?

[@AnEpicFatalityArchives]

I don’t think Elon musk cares about money. If that was the case, companies like Tesla and SpaceX wouldn’t be around. He’s burned through a lot of cash. I think the issue lies in that Elon Musk only really cares about the logistics of these things and probably sees that it outweighs how it would affect the US population. Also the guy has Asperger’s lol

[@sammychem5920]

If foreign born workers are paid lower wages then explain why Indian Americans have the highest median household income. Also explain why Flipinos, Chinese, Taiwanese, and pretty much every Asian American's median income is much higher than that of a white American? The explanation is that they invest in education, especially science and engineering education, from a young age. Most STEM Masters and PhD graduates are also foreign-born.

[@aniconic3424]

When I interviewed at Tesla about a year ago I was interviewed by a foreign worker. I didn't get the job and I have no ill will towards the individual who interviewed me. It wasn't a fit anyways. It seemed to me that he was a MIT graduate who was working below my current salary full time putting in 60 - 80 hours a week. He was forced to go into the office and thus lived in the most expensive cities in the country. When I asked about work life balance he looked at me like I was some kind of alien. It seemed like all of the benefits were barely competitive, and really not when you consider the area you are required to live in. The vibe I get is that Elon and other tech companies in the area are luring foreign workers into lower salary jobs right out of college, burning them out, then churning through another graduating class. Some are great hires and end up at the company long term, most chrun and burn or make lateral moves. All Elon wants here is to is streamline the government portion of this churn and burn process. I don't get the vibe that he cares about American engineers or workers.

[@edfhobbies556]

**THERE IS NO IT SHORTAGE !!*** WSJ - "IT Unemployment Hits 6% Amid Overall U.S. Jobs Growth"

[@csmith4993]

Underemployment is the issue. They’re also not accounting for how many are working multiple jobs to make ends meet. The also kick people off of the unemployment count after they’ve been there too long. Not that they’re now employed. Fuzzy maths.

[@iaf010]

IT is a huge domain. A Java developer cannot be swapped into a AI LLM developer or Data scientist role. Technology like AI has disrupted IT - lots of people are going to loose their jobs and lots of new jobs are opening up.

[@edfhobbies556]

@iaf010 WSJ BLS stat covers all of this. AI can *NOT* engineer and no one has been hiring people who are just coders since the late 90s. Let's say AI can engineer that doesn't mean displace US workers with visas while the UE rate in a sector is 50 percent above national average.

[@jracer7189]

That’s not the real number

[@JoeSolo313]

If they invest in Amercian education we wouldn't need to import engineers

[@jomckellan]

The imports are cheaper indentured servants. The employers hold the imports lives in their hands. It's a brutal system.

[@Paul-p1e]

Most USA students don't want to put in the work needed to be successful in STEM.

[@allegrap1054]

Say it again!! 👏👏

[@georgegrieninger]

We’re an already giving US children and young adults. Real issue is most are not good enough or not at the top of their fields probably due to failing schools not teaching needed skills

[@deshia1471]

There are plenty of engineers in this country. There's not a shortage. They just don't want to pay them what they're actually worth.

[@PaulineHendricks-wt9oc]

Jobs for Americans. Say no to foreign workers. We have millions of people out if work and will have even more as government agencies are deleted or gutted. FVR and FEM.

[@ffff7423]

Is elon musk a foreign worker?

[@kwolf2145]

But they don't care you're out of work.

[@DayTuckErrJoobz]

@@PaulineHendricks-wt9oc the people voted for the complete package. No voter fraud. Let’s march onward to a new America 🇺🇸

[@wvvwwvwvv]

@@ffff7423 "Is a citizen a foreign worker?" 🤣

[@jbone9900]

​@@DayTuckErrJoobz and got a scam haha.

[@LeoMarcus81]

“Motivated = Work 80 hour work weeks like a dog on Salary”

[@LaLaGrunge]

The USA went to moon in 1969 without H1B visa worker?

[@LucindaBerry-r7i]

Without Elon Musk.

[@antlou123]

US employed german and russian engineers to help us get to the moon.

[@floridagirl5250]

You should really research that moon thing....we have been lied to about just about everything we think we know. Red pill hard to swallow for sure.

[@Taina2024]

@@LucindaBerry-r7i What you said needs to be highlighted! I'm so tired of it already, now him and Wikipedia are in the news! smh The amount of arrogance! The media is behaving as if the world just started when Elon Musk came in, and he seems to believe it too! 🤦🏽‍♀

[@oldmanhair0]

Musk built his rockets off the Saturn V rocket engines, billions of state funded investment perfected for his sole commercialization.

[@ItsyBitsyDreamstead]

Vivek can kiss any future presidency Goodbye

[@robertdowney85]

"I wouldn't vote for you because you're Indian" - Ann Coulter

[@karimbennett5651]

He already is the Dr facto Vice President Elect under President Elect Musk.

[@DayTuckErrJoobz]

The American dream is alive! 🇺🇸 Vivek doesn’t need *Karen* Ann Coulter 😁

[@mattschiele9951]

@@robertdowney85Ann coulter represents less then 1 % of MAGA. I’m a huge fan of Vivek but in AZ I watch friends train their H1B replacements before intel laid them off, so Vivek and Elon lost a lot of trust on this issue

[@CzarKing23]

@@mattschiele9951Not true, more like over 90%. Even now when you are faced with facts, you still believe in a lie. That’s why they are able to play in your face because they know you can’t comprehend lol 😂

[@MeloettaMarmalade]

They want cheap labor and that's all theyve ever wanted. Money. Don't let them keep pulling wool over your eyes.

[@HaveanOreshnik]

Sadly most Americans won't realize it or wishful thinking, which is even sadder considering billionaires do not care about them

[@ats89117]

The US can certainly use additional highly skilled engineers, doctors, scientists and others, but the H1-B visa program is the worst possible way to bring them in. Almost all H1-B visas are sponsored by companies with market capitalization greater than $100 billion dollar, and the reason they bring them in is that while these employees are reliant on their H1-B visa, the company can pay them a fraction of what they would make if they were a US citizen. The right solution is to make these highly skilled individuals citizens so that they don't depress the salaries of highly skilled individuals already in the US. This can be done without increasing the total number of legal immigrants by giving a preference to those with skills, i.e. merit based immigration.

[@pierce4026]

Exactly, it’s a way to have a controlled labor group and hold their residency over their head

[@hw_plainview1179]

My thoughts exactly. If we educate and employ all this foreign talent they need to become American citizens.

[@karimbennett5651]

Welcome to capitalism.

[@Summerdee223]

This is simply not true. Companies have to tell the US government (immigration) exactly what they are paying H1b holders and go through a rigorous process to get approval. It costs companies much more to hire these folks and companies would much rather hire US citizens/green card holders because it is easier and much less expensive.

[@katgreer6113]

So you're saying these immigrants aren't skilled?

[@krystalsmith285]

Elon just called Americans dumb …

[@kellys7018]

Elon wants workers he can abuse. He makes his workers work 80 hour weeks and fires them for no reason.

[@mikemiller659]

Just Look at CA & Oregons school system..they removed the F from the grading scale because too many brn & blks were failing classes in school.(racismthe say) so isntead of Helping those students they Lowered the standards so they can pass to the next level. dumb may be right on

[@vankao2004]

Have you seen the US public school system?

[@kdooley41]

​@vankao2004 well they can be taught how to do tech.. you can't even understand these foreign techs. It's excruciating!!

[@lolabunny9013]

The same ones that voted for Trump were to their faces and has been banning their accounts on X.

[@lindanorris2455]

yup - have (20) yrs. aerospace engr and have not worked since 2019 - indian engineers replaced my jobs!

[@mishaf19]

No Linda, it’s because you’re incompetent

[@jasziegl8983]

H-1B is lowering wages for everyone. If companies want to operate in America they must hire Americans. We want a government that looks out for Americans first, not indians first.

[@mrgatsby4127]

I called Best Buy customer service today . Didn’t skip a beat an Indian picked up 😂

[@morgane8947]

Walmart employs more and more Indian-Americans (probably not on low wage since they are U.S. citizens) to work in the stores these days.

[@thelastorca]

That's why there's at least someone to pick up your call, else it'll be... Main menu.... That's not an option... Main menu.... That's not an option....

[@tl3565]

They need to invest in education equally for all American citizens and stop investing in the military and corporate subsidies and they don’t have to import!

[@Tenany1987]

It’s not a funding issue. No matter how much money they throw at it they just can’t get a better outcome. It’s the structure of education and topics of learning.

[@TJMHW24]

There’s plenty of children in America with lack of computer education in the US. Also lack of breakfast and lunch.

[@ashishdevassy]

H1b people doesn’t guarantee that they are skilled .. most of them just game the system..

[@luddity]

Like Melania did.

[@mitchyoung93]

@@luddity She probably came in on an 'O' "special talent" visa.

[@susanjane2498]

🤬 what about American engineers?

[@karimbennett5651]

They are, for the most part, middle of the road. Musk is not impressed by their skills.

[@soberanisfam1323]

Musk prefers cheaper labor😂😂

[@danr8502]

@@karimbennett5651 musk should move to India?

[@enriqueorganis]

​@@danr8502Of course not, he won't get tax cuts, government contracts and government subsidies there.

[@JohnnyRotten-uf6xw]

i thought MAGA was all about meritocracy. Better and cheaper.

[@davids7009]

It's kinda ironic for Musk to say this as he's always promoted going into industries he doesn't know about in order to disrupt it. He himself didn't have the skill sets for many of the companies he founded but learned them along the way.

[@MikeysChair]

I don’t see you as a person that can help … just complaining …

[@davids7009]

​​​@@randallwinters7387This is actually a common misconception. He's a self taught engineer who was originally a physics major. But by his own definition he himself wouldn't have had the engineering skills necessary for SpaceX after graduation since he wasn't an aerospace engineer or even an engineer. Let's not even mention Tesla or Neuralink, etc. Let's also not forget the talented engineers he canned in his companies bc they weren't 'yes men'. It's all a big joke I swear.

[@pacman7959]

😂😂😂 Tony Stark is a fictional character you know? 😂😂

[@amenbrother8818]

The little island nation of Taiwan with a population of 23 million, off the coast of China, makes 92% of the worlds most advanced computer chips without H1B workers. But America with a population 15 times that size can't. BS, it's all about getting cheap tech workers and always has been.

[@spacefun101]

Good job listing the one industry that Taiwan dominates. How many does the US dominate? The average income in Taiwan is about $16,000 less than America’s, but American wages are the ones being suppressed by immigration?

[@AD70003]

Manufacturing isn’t equivalent to Software prowess . You are mixing hardware with software . iPhones are still designed in USA . The tech of M series chips belong to Apple not to Taiwan . They are just making them . Taiwan has Manufacturing prowess . It’s not software .

[@chanadye4292]

If musk and Vivek continue down this path get them the ##$& out! This is a glaring conflict of interest and needs to be headed off at the pass. You are for Americans and American workers or you are against them. No middle ground here.

[@elreytriton]

theyre not actually "in" anything. they're glorified consultants. only congress has the power to create an agency. and trump isnt even in yet. it's all just talk for now.

[@LimleyGilbert]

Wow. For a patriotic supporter of the MAGAverse, free enterprise and capitalism, you don't seem to understand what a corporatocracy emphasizes. Profit. Profit. Profit. If an Amreican worker can't help them achieve that, you will be left behind.

[@LimleyGilbert]

So now you want to stifle free enterprise where corporations don't get to select the best qualified people to work for them? Sounds like your much-maligned liberalism to me.

[@kinglikuid6109]

The U.S. doesn't seem to learn from it's mistakes. In the 1980s 1990s and 2000s American production and manufacturing capacity was outsourced to China, India, and other nations by US companies in order to save a buck on labor costs. In the short term these American companies saved a buck, but in the long term saving a buck led to the creation of competitor companies within the Global Market. Cheap labor in a place like China allowed the Chinese to learn American innovations and expertise thereby allowing them to create their own products and services, for example COMAC a Chinese national owned aviation company was created after years of collaboration with Boeing and Airbus. I am not mad or judging the Chinese, the Indians, or any other group if the American/western corporate complex is providing the opportunity you take it.

[@soberanisfam1323]

This is called kapootalism destroying itself

[@elreytriton]

"american innovation" was mostly stolen technology or upgraded technology from other nations. this is not a good way to frame your argument. this would mean that are well within their right and would be detrimental to themselves to not copy technology when they have the chance based on the corrupt nature of american capitalists and their western european brothers

[@mescellaneous]

usury

[@Cakebattered]

The US corps that outsourced jobs in the 80s, 90s, and 2000s were able to sell US citizens cheaply made goods and services (Cheap, not inexpensive) while pocketing all the excess profits. Its been a success for them. Why stop now?

[@rottenfish1893]

America First . Period.

[@karimbennett5651]

President Elect Musk thinks otherwise.

[@brunoqueiroz2759]

womp womp, should not have voted for your south african president right wingers give all power to foreign capitalists then expect the government to help workers LOL

[@TJMHW24]

Working class. Period.

[@mescellaneous]

americanism, not globalism

[@roninoscuro9087]

34th in mathematics, according to the latest PISA test results.

[@art9374]

I agree, the best people should get the job! But seeing offices like Deloitte (Nashville/Tampa), Accenture, and Bank of America (CA), where 80% of tech workers are on H1 visas, makes me question if the U.S. needs more h1 tech workers. I see there is a big problem: if a job application on LinkedIn gets 100+ applicants after it has been posted for 1 hour, those applicants are often never hired. For God's sake, this is like getting into Harvard. do we need more IT workers ?

[@Brc-kg1mg]

Where did you get the statistics that 80 percent of tech workers are on H1? Most of my colleagues are either american born , american naturalized or on TN visas. The H1B cap is less than 100,000 a year. USA has a population of 300 million.

[@Summerdee223]

I have worked in talent acquisition/HR management for more than two decades and I can promise you that we would rather hire a US citizen over someone with an H1b visa every day of the week. Contrary to some of the comments I read here, companies cannot pay someone who needs sponsorship less than a US citizen and in fact the costs are much greater to hire someone who is not a citizen/green card holder. It is much more costly and takes much more time and paperwork to hire a non-citizen and the paperwork and costs continue for years until the employee no longer requires sponsorship. To top it off, the visa holders will often jump to another company the moment they no longer need sponsorship after a company has spent tens of thousands on the employee. Again, hiring US citizens/green card holders is the preferred route!

[@rockarollawmn]

I LOVE this idea! Home before outsiders!

[@LimleyGilbert]

I think Musk is thinking more 'qualified before the unqualified'. And companies are going to find the most qualified, cheapest workers because they are motivated by profit alone. You seem to think that a corporation is supposed to always do the right thing for society. If in your opinion they don't, then you want some sort of government order to restrict their hiring practices. Sounds like you're actually a Democrat, or a RINO.

[@aniconic3424]

@@LimleyGilbert Most statists think the government is always going to do the right thing for society too.

[@LimleyGilbert]

@@aniconic3424 Elon IS the government now, and he's declaring where American corporations can get their workers. That's not the voice of the people, it's the full weight of a corporatocracy calling the shots and dumping anyone that doesn't advance their bottom line. And, Mr. DJT is fully in favor of it, because he's a corporate CEO also and is concerned only with what might make him more money.

[@veronicawhite6655]

The rich gets richer and more powerful while the poor and middle class get poorer and weaker and fight each other for the crumbs.

[@neogeo6431]

Make Elon Trans Again

[@Mrfishlou]

While it is true the US would benefit if more US students would pursue engineering degrees, it sure feels like Musk and Ramaswamy want "the best" engineers for wages that won't attract America's best and brightest. If they want more engineers, industry should invest in a concerted effort to promote STEM, incentivize engineering degrees, and NOT give college engineering slots to foreign students.

[@lisadonato1245]

Invest in American education It’s a very simple thing we used to do for K through 12 th grade……that’s how we became GREAT

[@karimbennett5651]

Trump wants to abolish the Department of Education and refunds the schools. He does NOT care about investing in education. He wants to run the country like it was a casino.

[@neuroadvancementnextlevelp461]

Musk is a business man. Paying a lower price to get the job done is good business. That’s the way the elite see it. Americans will want more money. Probably the reason why he wants to move some of his companies to the Philippines, since it’s cheaper.

[@kicka55x2]

Traitors 😢

[@thelastorca]

Trump was never against H1-B. Fox just didn't air it enough to make sure you don't stop watching it.

[@djangosoftwaredeveloper]

Im a web application dev/back end engineer in the US and I can't find a job

[@userJAM703]

Neither can my son who recently graduated with an engineering degree

[@morgane8947]

Now that you have gotten what you voted for, welcome to the next 4 years and enjoy!

[@davidduggins1598]

The fact is they can hire the foreign workers on h 1 b visas For 2/3 of the amount it would cost for American worker say something in the engineering class Elon Musk loves those hires and if they don’t work out, you just send them home back to India or Pakistan or wherever and you’re done. I have personal experience at that. Thank you for your time. Happy new year.

[@traderzone1]

And don’t forget outsourcing. No need for a visa. Most of the jobs at my company were sent overseas the last 10 years.

[@brunoqueiroz2759]

isnt it illegal to reduce salaries of h1b workers?

[@soberanisfam1323]

Oh now y’all are complaining about kapootalism only when it starts to affect you 😂

[@lenaprice6239]

@@brunoqueiroz2759 They have a salary range. Essentially, let's say that the salary range is $78K - $300K, the H1B would get the lower range, while American engineers would get the higher range and all of the other perks as well (stock options) etc. Additionally, if a company lays off an American worker, they have to pay unemployment and could possibly be sued (if discrimination occurred). The same is not true for H1bs .They are not going to rock the boat, because they are not citizens and know that they can't step out of line. In most instances, H1Bs will do whatever is necessary to stay on good terms with their employer, so they won't risk deportation.

[@brunoqueiroz2759]

@@lenaprice6239 thanks for the info

[@wannabegolfin24-72]

What up, MAGA? How ya feelin now?

[@ClayWeblogistics]

Wait a minute, Hillary, we need to control all that is spoken. This is better than burning books! Ya, no contest. Democrats were Goose Stepping to ever higher levels of authoritarianism.

[@MikeysChair]

Time to give Americans a good start … fix the school system … go Trump!

[@kaneda8422]

Bummer the dems were going to help all of us and we got it wrong! Oh wait. Lol

[@traderzone1]

@@MikeysChair This has nothing to do with the school system. It’s all about cheap foreign labor. No school is going to fix that.

[@allegrap1054]

The other party of the uniparty wasn’t going to be any different

[@rncgsu]

Trump better issue executive order to eliminate HB1 visas

[@fatronjones]

He won't😆

[@shamrockshawtty]

In his fist term.i think he let in like 4 million. My area was flooded with them

[@mescellaneous]

art of the deal..

[@LimleyGilbert]

Now that the corporate tech barons own the Presidency and Congress, don't hold your breath. You've been Left Behind.

[@ZzzzRR-r1c]

He is already begging Musk to come back to Mar a lago. He misses him and his money. It’s always been about money. You really think Trump cares about Americans? 🤣 He is selling this country to the highest bidder

[@tinadavis5360]

I worked in cellular networks (Ericsson, Verizon) and they flew a newbie from Mexico up to California and I trained him to be my replacement. He had zero experience. 3G went to Mexico and 4G went to India. Americans were doing the jobs so well that we trained and supported them until finally they didn't need us. It's about profits. Full stop.

[@raijin2774]

Cheap labor, fool what you think these rich people want? Big profits

[@ChrisCooperXmarksthespot]

Let’s be real. When trump and maga talk about immigration, it’s about keeping people South of the border out.

[@davidorlando5241]

😂😂😂😂.....an anti immigrant party being run and influenced by two immigrants.... can't make this stuff up!!

[@aniconic3424]

There is a difference between illegal immigration and legal immigration through a legal port of entry. The fact that dems don't know the difference is why they lost the election.

[@anuragsinha2013]

Whenever Americans tell me, "America needs to invest in education" I always tell them America is never going to do that. Because others do it. It's not by accident, it's by design. America will never invest in education, because other countries invest education, America just outbids them in the Job market to cause a brain drain.

[@CarlosGonzalez-ff1hw]

Don't forget about all the engineers we made in from other countries we're making engineers they're coming here to America

[@tonytang6585]

Very simple solution. Raise H1B visa salary requirement to $250k and strictly enforce and verify it. Let’s see how many foreign talents corporate America willing to hire!

[@AD70003]

Not happening , trump is going on with musk . Mr Miller won’t be able to do anything against Musk and Trump .

[@noeltarr8834]

It's not about high skills. It's about Big Tech trying to save money by paying lower wages to H1B1 visas holders. If you hire a high skill American worker, he or she will demand higher wages or go elsewhere, so you apply for an H1B1 visa to pay lower wages to visa holders whose stay in the US is all in your hands.

[@jojohns1949]

Agree and we must call it out now

[@mescellaneous]

that is the incentive but that is not the heart of the issue. these candidates from india have a non zero chance of being frauds. the interview process for them is lax. they hire them knowing they can be a fraud, but fire them after a few months obviously when they are found out. the issue is they rather do this than interview/hire americans. i want to clarify that the company i worked at had many hard working indians as well. the issue is why are they willing to do this rather than interview americans. we were not given any other candidates, only the ones from these recruitment companies.

[@Johnny-w2r6p]

I know a ton of people with tech degrees who can’t find jobs. I am one of them. This is the reason.

[@waldosilas919]

This is on MAGA. It's what they voted for.

[@katgreer6113]

Literally 😂

[@waldosilas919]

It's so funny because how racist MAGA is, and now they have two people from another country calling the shots.

[@aaronmiller5012]

This is on LIBERALS like you. It’s what you complained and wanted

[@Le_Dislike_Button]

There is no voting globalist neoliberalism away. Eventually enough people will become so alienated that this whole evil system will implode.

[@aniconic3424]

What, having an actual conversation about immigration reform? As opposed to ignoring how broken its been for literally decades? I mean yeah. We did vote for that.

[@dougmiller5849]

Companies in the US are laying off US citizens, while actively hiring H-1B and H-4 Indians at a lower cost. Meanwhile new graduates can't find work. O-1 Visas are for exceptional talent, not H-1B/H-4.

[@rm8671]

Foreign engineers are cheaper....

[@oldmanhair0]

The MAGA bait and switch. MAGA will bring in millions of Indians, great for American culture.

[@karimbennett5651]

MAGA knew what they were doing.They have nothing to complain about. They knew Vivek and Musk are foreigners who will bring in other foreigners for these jobs.

[@OB-yz7db]

i wonder if y’all ever think about how if you had supported the unions, if you had supported diversification of the u.s. manufacturing base, if we had embraced semiconductors, microchips, bio-engineering, and renewable energy, instead of letting others take the lead… none of the past 40 years would have played out the way it did!

[@inspiredbynatureinspiredby5586]

It's time to end all HB1 Visa Holders program in the USA and in The West. Wise Federal Governments invest heavily into their own citizens and country first🇺🇸

[@MarthaHernandez-f8l]

TRUMP REMEMBER AMERICANS FIRST.

[@erickayson588]

Voting has consequences.

[@rm9sbg93zxjzg]

dont get me started... both sides are against the us citizen

[@AI-ex5rw]

They need reduce h1b visa as it hurts American wages and living conditions.

[@mescellaneous]

this is not just wages, this is at the expense of american growth by constantly importing foreigners. this counts for the soon to be americans. today's immigrants will experience the same thing because it's unrelentless. it would be okay if only those that really want to come prove their worth in some way. but americans have been complaining about this for a while with zero changes.

[@thelastorca]

No it doesn't. US is still the number one economy because of its ability to attract the biggest talents from around the world. That's why there's still SSN money, Veteran support, Medicare, Retirement solutions, refugee rescues, foreign relief and 401k. Else, USA would be only agricultural.

[@bea1365]

My husband employs design engineers, some from India. He says that technically they are really good, but getting output from them is really, really difficult. They've just had to let one contractor go because no matter what they tried he just wasn't producing the work. A really nice guy, knew his stuff, just not doing what was required. He says this happens a lot.

[@LordLeagueLegends]

Free Technology Schools 🏫 for all US citizens.

[@roninoscuro9087]

With 50% of the faculty consisting of HB-1 isa recipients.

[@Nobluffbuff]

Clock is ticking...how long before all Americans realize what I already figured out back in 2016. You all are going to lose your marbles.

[@jessetoler8171]

What did you expect? They are both foreigners.

[@nikjs]

end the lottery. go merit based, whoever wants to import workers needs to cough up enough money to fund a whole family. the majority of gripes people have are with substandard h1bs who come through lottery system.

[@LynetteFloyd]

Both of them are correct. The American culture has changed drastically. Emphasis is being popular, and a celebrity even though many were high school dropouts. Americans are spoiled, and take things for granted as a whole. The culture of achievement and success is not what it was back in decades ago. Look how low our education has gone. The best education was in this country….not anymore. Even Ivy league schools are so compromised. The college requirement was lowered since I went to college. Too many teachers only want to be popular, and students hate the teachers who want them to learn. This is a major issue.

[@CalmBuffalo-gk3fi]

Yeah but bringing tech workers from foreign countries is not the solution...I mean not for the middle class But people voted for billionaires in power 😂😂😂😂

[@LimleyGilbert]

I saw it firsthand as a biology instructor in a four year school. The students are coming in woefully unprepared for college work, and the coursework has been shamefully dumbed down to get them through to graduation. A diploma doesn't mean what it used to.

[@jasonsmith530]

How far back was America great?

[@monirasultana4083]

Didn’t Trump say We will buy Americans and hire Americans!!

[@NaneeH63]

Yeah, he did. But, let's see if he meant it.

[@Juan-n1k3x]

Elon musk and ramaswany are the boss for the Donald trump administration.

[@petenrita]

Terrible mistake by Trump

[@NaneeH63]

I agree.

[@johnloew9338]

US needs to invest in education instead of getting engineers from overseas.

[@fatronjones]

Too late

[@karimbennett5651]

For cultural reasons, Americans never catch up. Schools won’t change that.

[@ZeeMyers-l6w]

TRAIN THE AMERICANS FOR YOUR WORK SHORTAGE STARTING WITH THOSE IN JAILS RELEASE JOB READY FOR WORK INSTEAD OF GLOBAL CHEAP LABOR

[@kellys7018]

I don’t think people in jail are engineers.

[@allegrap1054]

@@kellys7018There are brilliant but neglected minds in the prison population and system. The same people that built the structures in the US that aren’t falling down.

[@notme8438]

So trading criminals for criminals in the labor market? 😂😂 Biden already commuted several ‘brilliant engineers’ back into society. Hire THEM. I dare you. 😂

[@LimleyGilbert]

I don't think a guy released from jail is the kind of worker that Musk wants to fill his high tech engineering jobs. Jesus.

[@AD70003]

😂 such a wacky idea , what are you on

[@lalaboards]

Too many college graduates in America with Pronoun Degrees .

[@lisadonato1245]

Trumps pick for heading the nations Education department (she owned a fake wrestling company) will surely help to improve American students chances for tech companies! Ha ha

[@tc7444]

how about upskillling and investing in IT skills for americans instead of increasing h1b visa

[@316821gd]

This is a good idea but you would need to change the culture of young men and have them focus on stem instead of fantasy football and brosphere alleged alpha male podcasts

[@tc7444]

Stop talking about culture. Every group has standouts. For quite a few poor and working class Americans, the lack of mentorship and economic stability prevent them from realizing their potential. Stipends during training, mentorship from high achievers, and career guidance will go a long way for finding gold on American soil. The DOGE guys are going to end up blowing their opportunity if they think dumping Americans to the wayside is gonna fly. Rogan isn't to blame....his draw is his ability to help people think and pull the veil back from the elite's propaganda machinations.

[@allegrap1054]

Same bull, same uniparty. Of course two foreigners will support other foreigners.

[@imcooliswear]

Vivek was born in Ohio.

[@axelfoley1406]

Of course, you are proving Vivek's point, lol. Smh. He was born here. How is he a foreigner? Not that bright. Take the criticism and do better. Don't forget the irony that Americans have been selling this country out for decades.

[@AD70003]

So you want DEI now for high paying jobs . 😅

[@vancouverite80]

We will never have enough visas for the 1.4 billion Indians. What we need is a per country cap of 7% so the real talent can come to work in this country.

[@billiehall3669]

****EVERY GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL *MUST HAVE A COGNITIVE TEST EVERY SINGLE YEAR!! WE AMERICANS 🇺🇸 DEMAND IT!! ALL OF THE JUDGES AND HIGH RANKING STATE OFFICIALS MUST HAVE COGNITIVE TEST YEARLY. WE AMERICANS 🇺🇸 DEMAND IT. 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@Moannarae1225]

How do you want mass deportation then allow those from India in the country for Tech jobs. Make it make sense

[@aniconic3424]

One group came in through a legal port of entry and the other payed a cartel member to skip the line. We chose not to deport or arrest the latter because of poor civics education and because in certain cities and states they are allowed to vote in spite of federal law. Now you can be an informed voter next time. You're welcome.

[@thomasrogers9146]

WE AMERICANS DO NOT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE ONLY 4% OF THE GLOBAL POPULATION. I DO HAVE A DEGREE IN BIO CHEMISTRY AND WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH QUALIFIED AMERICANS IN STEM OR OTHER DISCIPLES. 6 OUT OF 10 RESAERCHERS IN THE U.S ARE CHINESE AMERICAN SCIENTISTS..AT LEAST 50% OF OUR NATIONS STEM GRADES ARE INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS. ITS NOT ONLY THE TECH INDUSTRY BUT THE MEDICAL FIELD WE HAVE TO IMPORT NURSES FROM AROUND THE WORLD. THE REASON FOR OUR TECHNOLOGICAL SUPREMACY IS THE H1B VISA. THIS IS WHY ITS CALLED THE GENIUS VISA. WE BRING IN THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST FROM AROUND THE WORLD GIVE THEM GREEN CARDS AND MAY ARE FOUNDERS OF COMPANIES EMPLOYING AMERICANS. WE HAVE LOST 1700 OF SOME OF THE WORLDS BEST SCIENTISTS AND RESEARCHER'S TO CHINA BECAUSE OF HARASSMENT ACCUSATIONS FOR BEEN CHINESE AMERICAN. OUR RACISM AND MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN IS BECOMING SELF DESTRUCTIVE.

[@RB_GA]

The only sensible person in this cesspool of clowns. Almost as if they want US to lose to Russia and China, but with their stupidity.

[@Mark-kt5mh]

Hey, you might have forgotten that your caps lock is on

[@mescellaneous]

you're arguing for (colorblind) meritocracy. in that case, race shouldn't matter to you. it would not matter to lose "SOME OF THE WORLDS BEST SCIENTISTS AND RESEARCHER'S TO CHINA" because you can get the best from other countries based on your thinking. however, how can that explain other countries that do not follow the same immigration strategy and do fine? the view of immigration will create an everlasting pit that is the american lower class. if they don't plan to help now, when? just import more foreigners to "win"? hint, these immigrants will be americans of tomorrow, their children will face the same problem but greater because it's not stopping, AT ALL. conservatives complained for years and it didn't budge one bit. effectively means the government is not for the people. and the least is that they prioritize americans that can do the same job, that's all.

[@achildsheart4658]

Invest in your people within all industries!! From Appalachian to inner cities …. We have the people …

[@davidduggins1598]

Wasn’t Melania Trump allowed in this country on an H1B visa for someone with special or extraordinary talents I wonder what her extraordinary talents are oh I forgot I don’t care do you

[@curtismacdonald4579]

The people thst make 5 million an hour convinced the people that make 25 an hour that the problem is the people that make 7.50 an hour.wake up people !!! The billionaires are the problem. They want us divided

[@jolinefields3460]

I would suggest merit based immigration policy. Bring yourself but bring something for the host and make a valuable contribution (vs permanent welfare state because you had a baby here but cannot speak English or our laws our constitution etc)

[@RonP48309]

I agree with MAGA on the H1-B1 Visas. My promotion went to a H1-B holder not because they were more qualified, but because they were cheaper. MAGA Erupts After Musk, Ramaswamy Voice Support For H1-B1 Visas To Hire Foreign-Born Engineers. Hire qualified Americans!

[@nikkin.9206]

😅😂😂😂😂😂😂 thats what they get!

[@deskiller]

I think what people are getting wrong is that most of you do not know what an H1-B visa and the process of obtaining one. This is for “highly-specialized” immigrants. Not just for any type of worker, unfortunately the USA is not an overly STEM oriented country in its education sector, the growth is very minimal in comparison to the growth of the market. According to BLS, projected growth (engineers and known occupational outlooks) from 2023-2033 is an average of 8%. According to Gemini AI jobs are being created faster than degrees are being awarded. So corporations will obviously have to hire outside what is found inside.

[@morgane8947]

EXACTLY.

[@patkillebrew4110]

Pro Trump Propaganda????? How bout just Pro Trump winning strategies????? Why so negative? Not watching you smh

[@jpyramjd]

Same

[@jbone9900]

Can't handle reality grow up.

[@neotao9]

The US has always been doing this and it’s made us the most powerful country in the world. Take the top in the world and make them US citizens. This is how we won WW2

[@kyeorlam1351]

This world needs more Luigi Mangione.

[@sybr3602]

During the nuclear and space race German scientists were the leading edge in talent and expertise. They were the polished diamond that America needed. Now we are in an AI and tech race.

[@olzt100]

The actual benefit of hiring foreign workers is the cheaper cost for business. The US public does not realize the US economy is government, households and business. All three need each other. The government is supposed to be the unbiased and fair referee. But citizens keep electing pro business politicians that hurt household interests like wages and benefits The US elected the most pro business government in the US that has likely ever been.. Actions speak louder than any words. So, if Trump enables tariffs on any of these nations that do not pay tariffs his actions will say he is pro business regardless of what comes out of his mouth because the tariffs are too low to bring back manufacturing to the US in mass and it will have no measurable effect on the fentanyl drug trade. The US got royally conned but this is their opportunity to learn there is no genie in a bottle or braggadocious rich person that can save them from their own ignorance.

[@allegrap1054]

What were the other choices? A write in?

[@jbone9900]

​@@allegrap1054 mr Romney be good choice or the governor of Kentucky.

[@DPB1992]

If the H1B visa is for high skilled talent, minimum wage should be 100K for that visa holder. Currently it is very low and it causes American workers to be paid less too.

[@denisehall4818]

We don't need vegetables but we need new tech ,right?

[@Jaemon4Eva]

yes tech solves everything. unless you think going back farming like ancient people did makes more sense

[@joakos1122]

@Jaemon4Eva AI and automation will destroy the middle class and bring a dystopian society

[@denisehall4818]

@Jaemon4Eva Tech can't feed us.If we can allow tech people in why not pickers ?

[@Noel-u7k]

​@Jaemon4EvaTech can plant and reap food ?

[@beccybrooks2000]

Tech makes the stock market boom.

[@Oblivionsurveyor]

Americans are not becoming Engineers because it requires incredible focus. TikTok is single handedly destroying focus. I worked at a Civil engineering company for 8 years, its not for everyone. You have to be honest and recognize your own mistakes and not be afraid to do that. Americans struggle with that.

[@kekwayblaze3176]

TikTok has nothing to do with the underfunding of American education. You as a voter share blame because you didn't demand your politicians properly fund education so it's not in the lower bracket of education funding in the world.

[@jubae5760]

A lot of people don't have integrity, nothing new. The tech jobs require non-stop learners. If you don't have the ability the focus you will not make it anyway. The people who don't keep learning/training with the evolving technology are not fit for the job.

[@1111MrPalomino]

Vivek RamaSwampy