Mage Knight Review - with Liz Davidson

Liz Davidson takes a look at Mage Knight, the classic solo game about being a powerful and mysterious being, skilled at both magic and combat.
00:00 - Introduction
00:14 - Game Overview
07:25 - Final Thoughts
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[@isaacalien]

"At some point you will burn down a monastery, and have that on your conscience" **Is lost in D&D flashback**

[@JanFrensin]

Without a doubt the best solo board game ever , a true masterpiece. Nothing comes even close in regards of epic brain burning adventure experience it delivers ..

[@CK-mi3sd]

How is this compared to Gloomhaven?

[@SoloPlaythroughs]

MK is different than Gloomhaven on many levels. First off, each game is self-contained without a campaign mode. But, from a big picture perspective, the reason I like it a lot more is that, in MK, your character gets more powerful as a game goes on due to level ups and spell/skill/artifact/unit acquisition (mitigated only by wounds that clog up your deck, so wound management is important). In Gloomhaven, in the normal scenario, your character gets weaker and weaker and your choices as a result often get less interesting. Every game of MK feels different and epic. And there’s nothing like the feeling that comes when it all comes together and you smash a higher level city! When I win in Gloomhaven, I feel like I survive; in MK, I feel like I conquered.

[@xinyiliu7140]

@@SoloPlaythroughs spot on!

[@goldensun441]

@@SoloPlaythroughs weaker as in because less cards each round? or does the campaign difficulty outpace the character advancement? Im still early on in GH

[@SoloPlaythroughs]

goldensun441 I was focusing on the actually in-scenario aspect of GH. While there are ways to get cards back at times, your character starts each round with a supply of cards and items that is depleted as the scenario moves on. Every time you lose a card during a rest action (or otherwise), and every time you expend an item, you intrinsically have less options going forward. The average game of MK is much more dynamic in nature. (For what it’s worth, I think GH does a good job balancing itself against party level as you move forward in the campaign.)

[@twilightparallax]

Thanks, Liz. Wouldn't mind more solo reviews of classic games. Good as a reminder or as a reason to revisit them. Solo play has become convenient, considering the circumstances we are all on. Stay safe!

[@kevinerskine3299]

Well said Liz. You summed up my feelings perfectly. Best solo game ever!

[@Table.Fables]

Great review and perfectly sums up why this is THE BEST solo game ever- it is also my number 1. Another aspect which I particularly appreciate with this game is how things “work out”- sometimes I acquire a card or skill which I can’t see immediate use for but then it comes in at some point to save the day with a fight or conquest- in the end the way everything comes together in the finale is for me the most unique aspect of this game! Keep the great reviews coming Liz, thank you

[@danielwoltanski1413]

Finally taught this to wife, and she enjoyed it! Glad to see the love for my favorite game!

[@darkandsolo2507]

I gave it a 10 also!! It’s so beautiful and epic. I usually plan vacation time to play, taking Thurs and Friday off to spend 4 solid days with it.

[@CollectorsDomain]

Whoa talk about a throw back game. Awesome review! Love your reviews . Would love to see more from you!

[@wicaksonoadi1035]

Finally, a well deserved review of Mage Knight from The Dice Tower. I just wish this video show more screenshots of the beautiful explored map, the prepainted miniatures, the cool loking mana crystals, and so on. Mage Knight isn't only fantastic to play, but also looks really nice on the table.

[@JoeyjojoShabadoo7]

Thank you SO much for this review. This has been my “grail game” for a number of years. Your quick and concise review is making me really think about finally pulling the trigger.

[@wicaksonoadi1035]

Don't wait another second!

[@SolidStateSoul]

Excellent review, one of the best I've seen. You have exceptionally good taste in board gaming.

[@raymyers700]

Great review Liz! I've never heard someone summarize it so well and in 6 minutes! Learning the game? Seriously look up Ricky Royal and Box of Delights. He will take you through it and make it easy. The rule book is good information NOT laid out well. Great review!

[@ogreman2229]

Ray Myers agreed! The play through is wonderful!

[@BeyondSolitaire]

That's how I learned! I'll be filming some gameplay of my own in the coming weeks, but I don't think it's possible to outdo Ricky Royal. :)

[@WasbeerSyndicate]

Thanks, I'll check it out once I get to set aside some time for it. I usually learn by the rulebook, so this is good to know.

[@HuntMac21]

Beyond Solitaire I learned from your playthroughs and finally bought the Ultimate edition after 6 years of being a solo gamer and having Mage Knight thrown in my face for just as long as being the best solo game!

[@mazerinthemage2395]

Just picked this up, on a Black Friday sale. Not sure when I’ll delve into it, but I am excited 😌

[@rjd9194]

Hi Liz, I think your game review and explanation was very good. Thank you, I've bought the game from Amazon awhile back and I've stilled not gotten around to playing it. But, this video has made me more determined to take it out and play it. I really want to, but been to busy with other games and life. :D

[@bkolluru]

Terrific review Liz, thanks! Gotta try this classic sometime.

[@supersyked1]

Hi Liz, hope you read this. I just found ya through the video with Dice Tower in the top 10. And in that you mentioning and you’re description of this game definitely stuck wit me. So much so that by the end of that night (2 days ago) I had ordered a copy of the Ultimate Edition!! I also watched the Top 10 adventure games with Jeremy and it was his #1 also. This morning it came in the mail, and I’ve been at work all day very excited to get home and try it. So just wanted to thank you, even tho I haven’t tried it and Fantasy isn’t really my thing I do solo game, but it’s you’re description and enthusiasm that sold this game to me. I just wanna add that my all time favorite game is Street Masters! Solo and Multiplayer. So was Supersyked when you gave that game a shoutout. And to see you’re review of Brook City which I also love. Anyway sorry for long post, but you gained a new fan in me for sure. Thanks and take care.

[@KarimTheilgaard]

Super Syked Brook City is in my Top 5 too!

[@BeyondSolitaire]

I hope you enjoy Mage Knight as much as I do! :) Also, Street Masters is excellent. Great pick for a favorite!

[@greggersgreggers3990]

A short and sweet review for a very complex game that got to the heart of what the game is about and reasons why you might like it. I feel I learnt more about the game than reviews twice as long about games twice as simple.

[@viperfrag]

Liz, you did a fantastic job with your overview, considering how convoluted the rulebook is. I personally have a love/hate relationship with the game (mostly love)... "hate" due to its complexity, length (I often play the Blitz scenario), and the fact that I almost always lose; however, the game is thrilling experience that I come back to over and over again, and I keep coming to the same conclusion that it is an incredibly fun game that I will never get rid of, with excellent components, art, and a captivating experience.

[@soulTC]

Fantastic review, Liz! I'd been hesitating, but, after watching this, I immediately ordered my copy of Ultimate Edition! Can't wait.

[@richardmajeno507]

Great job Liz! It would be cool to see a review or hear your thoughts on Too Many Bones! Keep up the great work!

[@dall1786]

TMB is a superb game but man that Price Point will really keep many people from ever playing the game IMO. :(

[@Filip_eF]

Fantastic short review :) thanks!

[@bahasainggeris7884]

Thanks Liz! I've been thinking about getting Mage Knight, but wasn't sure due to the price tag of the ultimate edition. You've helped me decide. :)

[@plothos8380]

Bahasa Inggeris Don’t wait one more minute! :-)

[@josephpilkus1127]

Liz, I want to get this one to the table...it does look amazing and it is the only game on my shelf of shame. Congrats to you on joining the team there...I remember playing Stellar Leap and it was your "teach" that sold me the game back at PAXU! All the best!

[@miniatureworldsworkshop8286]

Have you managed to play it yet? It’s still on my shelf of shame

[@josephpilkus1127]

@@miniatureworldsworkshop8286 I have played it several times and it's quite good!

[@edwoodashton]

Thank God I got this a few weeks ago, literally the best fun solo experience I've ever had and I've got all the time imaginable to play it. Next purchase - Lost Legion!

[@wicaksonoadi1035]

You'll find that Volkare scenarios are SOOO GOOD. And all the additional advanced action cards, units, spells, and enemies. It's a must have.

[@frankp6869]

I have this game, but haven't been able to quite grasp it. I hope you can do a playthrough. I have seen other playthroughs but everyone explains things different. I'd be interested in yours. Thanks for this video.

[@tantona9315]

Excellent review, I'm sold! Mage Knight Ultimate Edition acquired.

[@yrusomad6]

Great review Liz, the rest of dice tower doesn't give this gem the love it deserves!

[@mohakadecincy2413]

Thanks Liz but now I want to buy this game ! This looks great, thanks for this review !

[@stricklinr]

Anyone looking for a different theme or a lower price point, I'd highly recommend Star Trek: Frontiers, which is a Star Trek retheme that can be bought for like half the price.

[@billable1861]

Does it play the same? Thank you for the recommendation, I find the LOTR theme/style stuff overdone and boring because of it.

[@MiklosFitch]

THE best solo game of all time...period!

[@IsAStormComing]

this is s great review. I like how you explain Liz. Sold me on it!

[@DavidSupina]

It’s a game that I have liked for a long time, but has just recently “clicked” with me enough that it’s become one of my top games. It’s certainly my go-to solo game at this point. I just picked up the Ultimate Edition and I am looking forward to exploring the expansion content.

[@Cindar92]

This is the game that got me into the hobby. My all time number 1.

[@ogreman2229]

Top 5 of all time for me no doubt.

[@chrismusix5669]

Thank you for reminding me that Mage Knight is the best game that I own and have yet to play! :3

[@kgeo2686]

Also my favorite game ever. I still haven’t opened my Ultimate Edition yet. This game is just incredible.

[@clintonjeffrey6699]

I'm so glad you did this. I dance around this game more than any other purchase decision. I watched Rahdo take 1.5 hours to move 2 hexes and thought "not for me"...and yet... Well, if Sleeping Gods turns out to be a dud, I think I might have to pick this one up.

[@dershed]

Don't watch Rahdo, watch Ricky Royal solo playthroughs if you want to get a good sense of the game (it's also practical for learning how to play).

[@harleygrattan2851]

This seems intriguing, thanks Liz

[@genion8407]

Every word +1. Seriously. Thanks Liz

[@jalenhorm5784]

I once tried to teach Mage Knight to six people at once, two boards with three players each and me in the middle. I won't ever do that again, I can tell you that much :) That being said, MK is my favorite solo game.

[@wicaksonoadi1035]

Even the rulebook warns you that playing with 4 players will be long, let alone 6 players! I have taught this game to 3 players using Blitz Conquest scenario but with the countryside tiles sorted by the number. For me, playing this solo is as good as playing 2-player cooperative scenarios. Especially the Volkare ones.

[@MafiulRobin]

Teaching 2 at once should be max.

[@br0adsw0rd65]

It's also an excellent two player game-competitive or full cooperation against general volkare. I don't recommend it with more than two players however. 5 players would be madness!

[@markusschmidt9260]

I think, 3 players is still fine, in particular, if everybody has already played it.

[@br0adsw0rd65]

@@markusschmidt9260 fine but not excellent ;0

[@markusschmidt9260]

@@br0adsw0rd65 Well actually, I like it even better with three than solo. Especially coop against a moving Volkare, so epic! But 2 players is best.

[@mylor1066]

Good job!

[@timdertim]

That's much better than the top 10 solo games video where Mike kept on making fun and interrupting Liz's #1 pick

[@nemesisdarkstar8263]

That's a pretty elaborate solo game... I LOVE IT!

[@stefanatalie]

Hi Liz, I adore your content and Dice Tower contributions so thank you so much for that! I'm waiting on the Robinson Crusoe KS and anticipate that this will be the "one game I would solo for the rest of my life" like you said for Mage Knight... now, there is a lot of complexity and content in Mage Knight so do you see that I could over-commit myself if I started Mage Knight? In other words, it would be hard to dive into both games given that they provide a lot of replayability but also a steep learning curve. Do you have thoughts? Recommendations as to whether I should focus on the RS KS edition since I backed that already... Thank you!

[@cmelo4757]

Thank you.

[@josephnegron4179]

Not surprised the seal of excellence followed.

[@2121toso]

Strong recommendation and I agree. Just a great, deep game with a great story.

[@slayking2378]

It so satisfying make big combo plays that can lead to a one turn city conquer is the best. If you like deck building games like yugioh. The combo plays you make even just for movement sometimes is really satisfying

[@irvinrules]

My favorite game also. 10/10 👌🏾

[@Tennethums1]

Excellent solo game. My only complaint is sometimes I feel I don’t have much in the way of choices as my cards just won’t allow anything beyond wandering around in a circle (or whatever).

[@markusschmidt9260]

Never wander in circles. At least not until you have discovered a gold tile.

[@pnutbutrncrackers]

May I just say it succinctly? I believe that was the best game review video I have ever seen (10/10). I would call it perfect. Ms. Davidson, that was a masterpiece, and thank you. Ironically, having said that, I am still unsure whether this game is for me. I realize the mechanisms it uses are very popular with many gamers, but I didn't hear mention of some of my own personal favorites, such as the pondering of mysteries, or the solving of riddles/puzzles of logic, employing deep deduction, etc. This sounded rather like the ultimate in what might be called 'management-strategy'. Again, for many that is their favorite species of game. I'm that odd duck that has never found it as gripping as piercing the fog of mystification with the blade of reason.

[@slayking2378]

Army building is pretty fun in this game too your units are huge for victory

[@pnutbutrncrackers]

@@slayking2378 Thank you, SK. "Building" is actually not a mechanism I have ever found very compelling, to be honest, though many certainly do.

[@leadbones]

Mage Knight is definitely more replayable, and works well with more than one player... but I'd say Nemo's War has been at least as much fun for me to play solo. Robinson Crusoe arrives in a couple days. I hear that one is a brutal display. So maybe 10/10 for both Mage Knight and Nemo's War, and I am expecting Robinson Crusoe to be a solid 8 or 9 based on what I know bout it.

[@TheMartinChronicles]

Oddly enough I was considering both Robinson Crusoe and Mage Knight for solo play. I chose Mage Knight because Crusoe has that brutal reputation, though I was intrigued by the scenarios. Anyway I got a good deal on the base game and it came in the mail today. The rulebook is written like a text block but I think I have an overall sense of how things should work. Wish me luck!

[@leadbones]

@@TheMartinChronicles Nice. Mage Knight still makes it to the table frequently. Turns out, Robinson Crusoe isn't really any more challenging than MK or Nemo's War. At least, I didn't find it to be. But MK is still my "desert island" game.

[@SPACEB0YZER0]

Great game!

[@joselavoy8591]

love you!!!! and i love mage knight bc you!

[@adriang6259]

So, are there definitive answers to those combat questions? Because I'm pretty interested in this game.

[@Novica89]

I'm afraid this game would be very cumbersome when considering what card to play in which way and just handling the card play vs having fun playing the game and fighting, leveling up etc.

[@kellinwinslow1988]

I like Star Trek Frontiers better,it just feels more refined and smoother,but Mage Knight is still great. Especially solo. Far more fun than playing Descent or LOR Journey in Middle earth solo.

[@profparm]

Great review! I have a quick question. You said that if you get the old version, you should make sure to get the Lost Legion expansion to play solo. I was thinking of borrowing the game from a friend, and he has the old edition with no expansions. Is it worth it for me to borrow to see if I want to buy the Ultimate Edition for solo play, or would playing without that expansion be too much of a disservice? The likelihood of me buying the bullet anyway increases as we are all under quarantine, heh.

[@BeyondSolitaire]

Definitely borrow it! Lost Legion just ups the ante once you have learned how to do the basic solo conquest scenario. :)

[@MafiulRobin]

Base is excellent.

[@Table.Fables]

Best solo game ever when I have the time for it... Spirit Island is a close second, it’s the only game that gives me similar satisfaction to Mage Knight but in a shorter timeframe

[@ben59320]

I received it as a present (ultimate edition) on Christmas and to be honest I haven't played it so much since then... the set up and the rules are just too much sometimes, I'm already discouraged even before putting the game on the table. I was so excited to receive this big box with all expansions, but then it just faded away... The lost legion expansion looks awesome but the rules are really overwhelming . Any idea who to manage this? I know I'm missing a lot there, I'm mostly playing solo, my wife is not as addicted as I am :(

[@BeyondSolitaire]

Either watch Ricky Royal's series, or wait about a week for mine to start kicking in!

[@shaneannigans]

Yep. Definitely watch Ricky Royal's series. If you want a structured path to learning (what to watch and do in very specific orders), I threw this together a couple of years ago. This is to help someone go from hardly ever having played a board game, to knowing Mage Knight! 🙂 m.facebook.com/story/graphql_permalink/?graphql_id=UzpfSTUyNjczMzc5OTpWSzo1NDM2NTYwMzkzMDIyMDU%3D

[@crushingit5128]

Yeah I had the same issues. Long setup and play time just for a one off adventure is kind of discouraging. Usually I handle these issues by having a dedicated table for a game, and just play it over a few days. But still kind of turned off since it does require a lot of attention and real-estate just to play a one off (non legacy) game. Besides Runebound 3rd ed. kind of scratches the same grand adventure itch and by the end of the game I feel completely satisfied and not burned out. I manage to deal with Gloomhaven's bulky setup and play time only because it plays as a legacy campaign that keeps evolving.

[@shaneannigans]

@@crushingit5128 That's funny, I'm the exact opposite! 😆 If it has a game has a lot of set up, I MUCH prefer it to be a one-shot. If it has a campaign, it better be quick or it'll become a chore after a few sessions. Eg I still love Mage Knight. But Gloomhaven became an annoyance after a dozen plays-even though I had a table amd organisation system dedicated to it. That said, I can now set up MK in less than 7mins whereas Gloomhaven has me going through folders and trays looking for specific tiles, cards, standees and other different components every game. 🙂

[@crushingit5128]

@@shaneannigans lol very much the opposite.

[@Evildata]

Word!

[@mkrool]

whats game!!! i looooove it!!! great video liz!!! lol

[@franciscolobo8919]

Im from Honduras, just entering in this fantastic world of Board Games, and Mage Knight just called my attention, but before that, Id like to know what its the regular Price of an Ultimate Edition, cause I've seen variable prices online, and in my country its hard to get at fair value even a Clue Game.

[@TheMartinChronicles]

Hello sir. I just got the basic edition from Amazon for $76 US and if I really get into it I'll likely order the Lost Legion expansion for about $36. The Ultimate Edition is $230 and I couldn't justify paying that price for a board game. Of course these prices are only the current ones from Amazon in America so I unfortunately have no idea how much they would be in Honduras. Sorry if this reply is too late to be of any help.

[@franciscolobo8919]

@@TheMartinChronicles Thanks Bro, Ive already bought it, for $140, Pretty good looking and fun game, but sadly, bow I have not time for playing it 😥

[@roberthuffman2620]

TOOOOO true! Best game ever made!!!

[@DoctorPoo]

I have the Star Trek version but the rules have kept me from starting. :/

[@noodlemans]

James' Generic Game Channel Enjoy same here. I’ve played it once and thought it was fun but I never played it again.

[@stricklinr]

There are some introductory videos from Ricky Royale that were a lifesaver for learning that game. Give them a watch.

[@blairblack281]

amen.

[@AlexNguyen]

Nice video! (Are you Dr. D?)

[@vegastar558]

I'm a newbie to gaming (I've just started playing this past month), mostly looking for solo games just because I don't know anybody willing to delve into "geeky" hobbies. I see Mage Knight gets rave reviews, but after looking at a couple of your "how to solo" videos, it looks super complicated to me. Would you also recommend to a newbie? What type of people would not like this game?

[@Aaackermann]

It is a very rewarding game, as she sais (with all the leveling and the very clever decissions). BUT your concerns are not far fetched. This game is quite difficult, especially considering the rulebook which is hideous! Fortunatelly there are a lot of how to videos for beginner on the web (have a look at Boardgamegeek.com which is a cool website for boardgames where you can find videos for the games neatly collected!). If you are a beginner in boardgames this might be too much. Especially if you are playing solo and nobody can help you. On the other hand, if you play solo, nobody can rush you eather. So you can take your time. After all it is a game, and as long as you enjoy digging into the rules (which is quite honestly a huge part in boardgaming anyways! ;-) ) than you are good to go. Are you a person that can be patient with rules? Than go for it! You will love it! If this sounds intimmidating, than you might give this a pass for the moment. A very nice and easy soloplay recommendation would be "7th continent" But be warned. It is hard to get and quite expensive. If this is ok for you, than try this one first. But I think as well, that MageKnight is the BEST Sologame ever out there. Hope this helped.

[@BeyondSolitaire]

Liz here! I honestly would not recommend that a new gamer start with Mage Knight. Gaming is like a language-the more you play, the easier it is to recognize the same mechanisms in new games, which makes you better at learning the complicated ones. For starter gaming, I recommend quick, small box games (Orchard, Onirim, Cartographers, Friday). Once you get hooked on those, you can just go down the slippery slope...

[@HuntMac21]

(I) Start(ed) with Onirim and Friday. Then I added Space Hulk (hard), Sylvion, Predator Legendary, Marvel Legendary, then Castelion. Legendary has plenty of franchises at this point if deck building fits your fancy. Most of my games are all card oriented and don’t deal with dice.

[@jhowd78]

THE GOAT

[@jcraigwilliams70]

This looks interesting, but if there are specific scenarios, that's a bit disappointing, as is the (apparent) fact that each time you play, you start again at the beginning. Personally, I was hoping for a game in which the story and character continue to grow and evolve each time you play. That is why I am currently being drawn toward solo RPGs like Ironsworn. And yet... I do want to have a cool board game, so I am torn. Part of me wants to pick it up, but I am concerned I'll find it's not for me.

[@ilirtanku9722]

as a rpg pc fan i am thinking of purchasing mage knight base game.with what i saw i think it is an exellent game.my only rpg board game is legends of drizzt which i dont like it.

[@Teachermook]

... if only I could afford this.... (insert sobbing here)

[@CyberXShinobi]

Mage Knight or Gloomhaven?

[@BeyondSolitaire]

MK

[@plothos8380]

MK by a mile, but, and here’s the kicker, that’s just one guy’s opinion.

[@corrado8955]

Both for sure

[@stricklinr]

Very different experiences. For deeper strategy, MK. For more engaging narrative and progression, Gloomhaven.

[@wicaksonoadi1035]

MK shines for solo. Gloomhaven shines with multiplayers. Enjoy both, love both.

[@michaeldallavalle372]

I have this game and tried to slog through the rules. I've pretty much given up. I'm keeping it "just in case," but I know the likelihood of coming back it is pretty small. Bad rulebooks are a crime.

[@netcrashYT]

Once it clicks... you'll realize the rules are all sensible and also symmetrical so you somewhat never forget it

[@BeyondSolitaire]

Michael DallaValle I am doing a playthrough series soon!

[@shaneannigans]

How to learn Mage Knight. These are the steps, in order, I used to go from being a board game noob, to knowing how to play Mage Knight... m.facebook.com/story/graphql_permalink/?graphql_id=UzpfSTUyNjczMzc5OTpWSzo1NDM2NTYwMzkzMDIyMDU%3D

[@corrado8955]

The rules are well organized and delivered well in the intro mission. That’s the best way to learn the game. Follow the tutorial mission book!

[@TimTheMain]

Try to consider that some people dont know anything about the game. Im missing information like is every play on its own, is it a campaign, do you keep your progression between plays, how long is a game? All things id like to know from a review. I'd actually like to hear more then 11 minutes from someone who says it is their favorite game. Please keep talking and make a 30+ min video.

[@Seraph_sk]

First of all i want to mention that MK is my no1 favorite game too. Moreover i want to add that I have a different opinion about the most negative point of the game. Its not the rules/rulebook,... its the extremely large playing time with more than 2players. To be honest i wonder if someone has played with 5people?....and how long did it take to complete the scenario? hahahahha

[@MP-wb5yd]

The game is not for me, too combat oriented and bland artwork but this is an excellent review thank you !

[@PickleTheHutt]

I'm happy that so many enjoy this, but I have no desire to ever play it. My favorite games are thematic co-ops with fantasy my favorite theme, but nothing about this game in any playthrough I've watched (quite a few) make it feel like anything other than a puzzle with fantasy dressings. I also greatly dislike Legends of Andor for similar reasons. It's not about complexity or difficulty with the rules as I really enjoy many other 4+ complexity games as rated on BGG. I just hate games that hide unthematic gameplay under a coat of thematic paint, imo of course.

[@corrado8955]

Kenny Felts it feels pretty thematic, adventurous, and epic every time I’ve played. But hey, maybe you just can’t get past the card puzzle aspect. No worries.

[@MafiulRobin]

It's very thematic.

[@-Markus-]

I dont NEED to buy another game, I can quit whenever I want to! DX

[@TheRmm1976]

Most troubling thing about the game is the complexity. Definitely not for a casual gamer. It will take hours just to read through the rule book and have a basic comprehension.

[@MrMpa31]

Played it once, didnt really enjoy it. Between setup and the rules, it was more work than fun. So far it was $200 wasted. Play before you buy.

[@MafiulRobin]

It took me month and some games to have all rules in mind for all the time but it was 100% worth it. I'm lucky that didn't give up.