Magicycle Deer Step-thru 20" (Deer Mini)

In this discussion video Magicycle Deer Step-thru 20" Review, I share my opinion about the new dual suspension 20X4 fat tire ebike.
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**** ATTENTION: Magicycle has announced a name change for the Deer Mini. It is now called "Deer Step-thru 20"" . You can find it by visiting this link to the Deer SUV page, then select 20" Tire as the option. shrsl.com/45w4s
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[@ursuladubrick4434]

Great review of the features of this bike. I hope Magicycle does provide you with this new model for an honest, comprehensive review. Am thinking of getting this one myself.

[@EbikeReviews]

Thank you so much for the support. Unless, I am missing something, this should be a great ebike.

[@pedrofernandez8729]

You have a lot of subs, you have the capability of riding year-round in a beautiful area which will attract even more viewers and have a good personality, I think Magicycle would be wise to make you one of their ambassadors and send you their e bikes for you to review and promote. Your subs should also go higher as a result. You have nothing to lose by reaching out to them.

[@EbikeReviews]

I like the way you think. I will send them another message with your comments. It helps when viewers express interest in specific brands or products. It helps me to build credibility with them. I appreciate your kind words.

[@pedrofernandez8729]

@@EbikeReviews Just imagine you riding the beautiful Magicycle e bike in the middle of winter when most of the country is freezing and can only dream of riding when the spring comes, and you're in warm, sunny Florida. Not only will you encourage people to order their e bikes in time for the riding season, but maybe even coming down with their e bikes for a winter.vacation. You'd be a great ambassador for your area as well.

[@EbikeReviews]

@@pedrofernandez8729 Thank you soo much. Perhaps send Magicycle an email? :-) [e-mail]

[@pedrofernandez8729]

@@EbikeReviews Just did it, put in a good word for you, best of luck. Magicycle has other YT guys, but they're up north and can't ride in the winter, while in your case, it is the best time to ride.

[@EbikeReviews]

@@pedrofernandez8729 Thank you!!

[@Optunity]

Looking forward to your next video

[@EbikeReviews]

Thank you, I have another video releasing tomorrow by 8am. :-)

[@EbikeReviews]

If you would like me to test and review the new Deer Mini, let me and Magicycle know. Drop a message below or send a message to [e-mail] and ask them to send a Deer Mini to @ebikereviews!

[@ediddy1355]

I'm interested in this bike as well and reached out to Magicycle to send some to influencers so that we can "see" a review and get a comprehensive perspective vs assuming it's exactly like the larger Deer. You may also want to check out the 2023 Snapcycle Storm. It seems like it ticks a lot of your boxes like the DeerMini but at a lower price point due to a smaller battery and 85NM of torque, it seems like a pretty solid bike for the price, and it folds!

[@EbikeReviews]

@@ediddy1355 Thanks for the info and suggestion. I just looked at the Storm, looks like a nice bike. However, I need the larger battery, I have a riding group and we ride 1-2 times per week. Yesterday we did 24 miles and my 14ah battery on the heybike Ranger S was done. So I need to stick to the 20ah because we often ride about 30 miles.

[@justinlikesme19]

Does the battery is changeble ? Like if you can use other batteries ? If you wanted to get the battery like 52V 60AH ?

[@EbikeReviews]

@@justinlikesme19 I don't know of any other batter that can be inserted.

[@freddyfenwick2603]

Welgo aluminum pedals, good pedals, no need to replace. Hydraulic fluid controlled suspension is huge plus. Both add to the cost but don't need upgrading.

[@gordjohnson70]

Magicycle OWNS the factory that makes the bikes...... that sounds good.

[@EbikeReviews]

Yeah, I thought that was interesting. It means they should be able to really control the product quality.

[@1dash133]

3:12 time mark _ 28mph with pedal assist. Yes, you can go 28mph on pedal assist. You can ALSO go 28mph on full throttle (with no pedaling) if you so desire, by unlocking the top speed via the bike's display settings. 5:38 time mark _ Chainring. Unfortunately, your suspicions are correct. It's got the standard 48 tooth chainring and, indeed, it's not well matched for a top speed of 28 mph. In defense of the Magicycle design team, this bike was designed with an emphasis on offroad use. So, it wasn't a horrible decision to stick with the 48 tooth chainring. 6:12 time mark _ Customer service. I own an Ocelot Pro. My experience is consistent with your observations. Magicycle has very good customer service. 9:33 time mark _ Rider height. Both the Ocelot Pro and the Deer Mini have the same range of rider heights, from 4'10" to 6'2". However, because of differences in design between the Ocelot Pro and the Deer Mini, I'd suggest that the Deer Mini's design is much less accommodating of shorter and of taller riders than the Ocelot Pro's design. - The Ocelot's maximum seat to pedal length is 35.04", the maximum seat to pedal length for the Mini is 31.5". That 3-1/2" shortfall may impede the full range of motion for tall riders trying to pedal. - The minimum seat to ground height for the Ocelot is 29.71", the minimum seat to ground height for the Mini is 31.9". That 2" of additional height will make it that much more difficult for extremely short riders to handle the bike when standing at a stop. This situation is exacerbated by the fact that the Mini weighs 10 pounds more than the Ocelot. 10:35 time mark _ Cruise control. Cruise control would be a really nice feature if you could choose when to use it. Unfortunately, there is no way to disable it. 8 seconds of constant throttle and it's activated. Every time, whether you want it (or expect it!) or not. It is one of the most complained about features of the Ocelot Pro. 12:12 time mark _ PAS levels. You are correct. The display unit allows you to program exactly what percentage power you want to apply to any level. That means that you can fine tune each level to match whatever your desired speed is on a flat roadway. 13:16 time mark _ Triangular seatpost structure. The open frame puts an awful lot of stress at the hub. This design is a remarkable engineering feat to not just carry the loads, but to do it in a reasonably compact form factor. I'm impressed! 13:55 time mark _ Weight 83 pounds. Not only is it a whole lot of weight, Magicycle might be understating its weight fully loaded with battery. By comparison, the advertised weight of my Ocelot Pro is 73 pounds, but when I weighed it, it scaled at 78 pounds (confirmed by another KZbinr).

[@CC18EBikes]

The Magicycle Ocelot Pro has 9 pedal assist levels. My wife and I both have the Ocelot Pro and love them.

[@EbikeReviews]

I have looked at the Ocelot Pro real hard for a while, wish I had one. But now, I'm leaning toward the new deer mini.

[@1dash133]

@CC18EBikes Odd, my Ocelot Pro came with only 7 pedal assist levels. I never bothered to question the number of levels on my bike because that's the number of levels shown in the Owner's Manual. 👀

[@nikkicollingsworth6663]

@@1dash133 My husband had me change them in the settings.

[@EbikeReviews]

**** ATTENTION: Magicycle has announced a name change for the Deer Mini. It is now called "Deer Step-thru 20"" . You can find it by visiting this link to the Deer SUV page, then select 20" Tire as the option. shrsl.com/45w4s

[@donwilson350]

You know I don't really understand this as many e-bikes that are out there with the 20in where do they get the idea that you're going to spend over $2,000 for an e-bike when there is so many to choose from that don't cost nowhere near as much but yet or just as good I mean look at the vitilan u7e bike it is a step through e-bike and the bike are reviewing is like twice as much in price

[@EbikeReviews]

Don although I appreciate your comments, your approach is condescending. Where I choose to spend my money would be my business. Now, if you want to send Vitalan a message and ask them to send it, I'll review it to and give my honest opinion. Maybe I will like it, maybe I wont. It is an attractive price, but its also on sale from $1499. The battery is much smaller which saves about $250. The front suspension is mechanical not hydraulic and there is no mention how much torque the motor has, probably not anywhere close to 96. I also don't see anything about what type of rear suspension it has. Components make a big difference.

[@donwilson350]

Hey bud I didn't say anything to you at all about how you spend your money you spend your money anyway you want to I'm just saying for the money that's a rip-off but if you want to spend it you go for it no you're wrong on that as well it has 80 nm meters it got a 16 amp battery in which it doesn't have a 20 amp battery and which I wish it did and it does have hydraulic brakes and they're good ones I've got them same hydraulic brakes on two other bikes I own and they are really good

[@mikecierski8016]

I don't know if I should get the 26 inch or the 20 inch. I am 58 and I'll fit both bikes. I understand the 20 inch is a lot lighter than a 26.... I mostly ride on trails dirt rocky roads and I live in Indiana so we don't even have mountains...... I also have a trailer that I pull my children in which bike will be the best?

[@EbikeReviews]

I like to ride trails that are dirt, rocks and have really tight turns. For me the 20" is much better. Its much easier to handle on the turns. I tried a 26" on the same trails it was very clunky. The slight downside to a 20" is that it takes the bumps a little harder. Imagine if you hit a curb, the 26" will go up and over it much easier than a 20" would. I use my 20" to pull my dog and trailer. Works great. If you make a purchase, please consider using the affiliate link in my video, it costs you nothing extra but it helps my channel. Let me know if you have anymore questions

[@sonicelement]

I definitely want to get one. I got ranger s and thinking of returning it. Just not liking it so far. But ranger s is foldable which is great since I live in apartment and don’t got much room to keep big bikes like this.

[@EbikeReviews]

If your not familiar with returns, after shipping costs, restocking fees, your better off just selling it.

[@EbikeReviews]

Oh, does that mean your profile name will change?? :-)

[@sonicelement]

@@EbikeReviews yes I’m aware of that. Do you know the best place to sell?

[@sonicelement]

@@EbikeReviews Maybe haha I just named it RangerS for fun not cause of the bike.

[@pedrofernandez8729]

No question in my mind, sell those 2 bikes and get this one instead, you won't regret it.

[@EbikeReviews]

I'm showing these comments to my wife :-) ... Thanks for all the support Pedro.

[@gordjohnson70]

Is the rear suspension adjustable ?

[@EbikeReviews]

Not sure yet, but I believe it is. I will be getting the bike delivered in about a week.

[@gordjohnson70]

So, how fast does it go.... Throttle only ?

[@EbikeReviews]

Fast! I hit 30.2 Throttle only and I'm 245. My daughter which is about 120 says she hit 36. Crazy.

[@gordjohnson70]

freewheel 14 / 28

[@EbikeReviews]

We can always change it. I'll find out soon.