Mainstream Media - Douglas Murray Opening Statement

Public trust in mainstream media is at an all-time low. Critics point to coverage of COVID-19, the 2020 election, and the Ottawa trucker protest as proof that legacy outlets like the New York Times, The Globe and Mail and CNN can no longer be relied upon to provide unbiased reporting. Activist journalists are using pen and paper to push political agendas while their bosses lean into the profitability of polarization. Mainstream media’s defenders argue that their institutions offer an invaluable public service that alternative outlets are either incapable or uninterested in providing: careful fact-based reporting on important issues and holding the powerful to account. In a brave new world of “fake news” and “drive by” journalism, traditional news organizations are essential to democracy and a bulwark against corruption, misinformation and the private interests of the powerful.
Arguing for motion was the associate editor of The Spectator magazine, Fox News contributor, and bestselling author of The Madness of Crowds, Douglas Murray. He was joined on stage by Substack publishing sensation, former Rolling Stone contributing editor, and investigative journalist, Matt Taibbi
Arguing against the resolution was the internationally acclaimed author, podcaster and veteran New Yorker staff writer, Malcolm Gladwell. His debate partner was Michelle Goldberg, New York Times columnist, MSNBC contributor, former American Prospect senior correspondent and senior writer for The Nation.
The audience voted on this resolution prior to hearing the debate. 48% voted in favour of the resolution, while 52% voted against the resolution.
At the end of the debate, another poll was conducted. 67% voted in favour of the motion, while 33% voted against it, representing a 39% vote gain for the PRO side.
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[@donaldfarmer8421]

I watch this entire debate and Douglas Murray absolutely crushed it. One of the best explainers for a diversity of opinion and a free market of ideas.

[@hubrisnaut]

I did too. Love Douglas Murray (and Matt Taibbi). He gets some things wrong in his columns and appearances in my opinion (who wouldn't putting every idea you have out there?) but he is clever and insightful. I have to hand it to The Munk Debates for inviting the odious interlocutors, Malcolm Gladwell and Michelle Goldberg.

[@mrsteve170]

Where is the link PLEASE. I can only find opening and closing

[@blueturtle1813]

yeah he slayed this debate but I wouldn't fall too much in love the man is a fraud himself, his book is not just full of mistakes but one got to say: lies

[@coffeeblack9]

where did you get the full debate?

[@hubrisnaut]

@@coffeeblack9 (A tip, do a search for the participants and the host) It can be found mirrored on a few channels. I don't think the Munk channel aired the video, only audio. Here is a link with audio and video, enjoy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGmymHtvesurq68

[@MikeBronson515]

‘You really know the world is in trouble when Canada suddenly becomes very interesting’. 😂😂😂

[@manusha1349]

Douglas Murray is a force of nature! Makes the loss of Christopher Hitchens slightly more bearable

[@danapeck5382]

Not sure what C. Hitchens would say...

[@manusha1349]

@Dana Peck he would be 100% in agreement with the Truth, which is what Murray speaks and writes about. The Woke narrative is destroying America and everyone with any sense knows it. Hitch was incapable of being disingenuous

[@danapeck5382]

@@manusha1349 Personally, I think he'd be woke's worst enemy based on his Oxford Union "fire, fire, fire" presentation, but he'd find things not to like about Murray and say so. Sure wish he was around to speak for himself

[@thewizardstower2649]

I think about that often. He is the chief descendant of the late, great Hitch. So happy Douglas is around!

[@charliedeleeuw2305]

@@danapeck5382 I agree that I'm sure their opinions would've differed on things but the two actually knew each other and were friends.

[@ajm-wu6wd]

We can easily say that Malcolm Gladwell lived long enough to see himself become the villain.

[@redkatana7450]

Douglas absolutely crushed it, and his British accent is a bonus.

[@A1Frizz]

Douglas is such a brilliant person, in sharpe contrast to Mr Gladwell.

[@bseburke1]

All the love and respect for Matt Taibbi. He's been beating the drum about journalistic integrity for years now...love his writing. Shame he's not a household name. He deserves to be

[@geneappeal]

He soitenly should be now after cautioning us years ago to beware of journalists who have things given to them (I'll let you figure the rest out.)

[@zechs5079]

​@@geneappealsure, but sometimes information comes along that is just too good to not expose to the public. Much like how we learned about how the NSA is spying on us we now jow, for *certain* , that the government has been censoring people on social media.

[@anastasia-fr1gn]

I know he’s not a believer but God Bless Douglas Murray for his unending work to expose the dishonesty and corruption working against every citizen in their own nations.

[@johni4213]

I wonder how many Canadians will see this!?!

[@stormlad]

Good for you Douglas

[@bravo2zeroCAN]

Hear! Hear!

[@DoctorJ42]

Here's a media expression that summarizes Douglas Murray's performance... "Boom goes the Dynamite"

[@mj011n1r]

Douglas Murray is a rock star.

[@grahambrick9390]

Formidable arguments from Douglas, who is a superb cool debater in a class of his own, and who dissected his opponents with surgical precision.👍👍👍👍

[@SamuelEMiller]

Witty and eloquent. Always a pleasure to listen to Douglas Murray craft an argument

[@Amero2323]

Absolutely. Reminds me of Hitchens.

[@izzykhach]

I'm glad that Douglas Murray is one of the good guys since he's so smart and eloquent

[@samb5282]

Fantastic.

[@G_Ozare]

Murray is as always, BRILLIANT.

[@carpo719]

This kind of debate needs a lot more traction.

[@danmartens8855]

Oh Canada. A Frozen Banana Republic minus the chocolate coating.

[@mikemcmullin149]

Murray nails it.

[@badrobot3159]

So glad douglas Murray is on my side.

[@martinstorrier4481]

Douglas With the Norm reference, absolute gold.

[@markgnarz5399]

The non verbal interaction between Matt and Gladwell during this is hilarious.

[@alanh1329]

Never watched a debate, because what’s the point, but I watched this one. It’s about time people saw what type of crap the “mainstream” pull. You prove points, and they try to tear down reputation with lies.

[@chronotq]

I can proudly say I’ve been a fan of his for years. It’s his accent and the crisp way he accentuates words that makes his speeches sound so compelling. People listen when this guy talks.

[@benbax5990]

Douglas Murray is a real Shark..... love him..

[@Mr.Unacceptable]

The opposition here would be more useful as a pot scrubber. The gaslighting and strawman built by the opposition is at absurd levels.

[@dewijlr]

Brilliant!

[@mrsteve170]

As I straight man...I now understand what it's like for a woman wanting to choose who they breed with.

[@leonscott543]

😂

[@geneappeal]

Did you say breed? You're straight in more ways than one, buddy

[@jackhhun2698]

They committed Treason

[@matthewpeers1705]

Just brilliant

[@orsors2129]

Douglas Murray won the debate, despite Gladwell being homegrown, because he brought the Canadian issues home to a Csnadian audience.

[@joshk6066]

This has way too little views. I'm damn sure yt is hiding it from people.

[@hlfrezenovr]

NAILED IT!

[@davidblyth5495]

An articulate, insightful speaker making valid statements - there's hope!

[@kvanua2264]

Mitre 10 opening statement

[@mimo5853]

What was the ending vote? I heard it was the largest swing in opinion in an Munk Debate……

[@oscarvi3232]

I had forgotten how amusing Douglas Murray is.

[@HeavyK.]

woah ...

[@pn9274]

❤️

[@afridgetoofar1818]

Why are Englishmen always to best public speakers 😆

[@RankinImagery]

Is there a video of the entire debate? I can only find the audio.

[@P010010010100101]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKfEl2qOhLR5fsU

[@RankinImagery]

@@P010010010100101 Thank you!

[@txpyr2647]

murray vs gladwell

[@nramorrisg8415]

Next one we need to have Peterson up there he can educate Malcolm who like to lie a lot and degrade others instead of having a proper debate.

[@toptentex3541]

Is it the online troll demons?

[@Enty94]

@01:00 approx. The male in the audience looks like a young Laurence Fishburne

[@JohnMartini-ke7dq]

This Douglas guy has the intellect of a tomato. A brownish one that’s been left out for a few days.

[@timkelly7911]

Why does it need to be someone from another country pointing this out. Very sad that our media I’d federally funded or there’s could have been coverage

[@charlesratcliffe6839]

Should be titled “Doug” not “Douglas”.

[@OrbitalRoc]

The only thing that would have made that better if he said the kiss ass chorus, I would have laughed hard.

[@mattfm101]

Where are the Canadians, it looks like they've been diversified too like the UK? What the fck is going on?

[@mattfm101]

@@orangecrush7174 I don't see any Canadians there just loads of people from around the world.

[@mattfm101]

@@orangecrush7174 Don't you find it in the least but strange, that they all seek to move to white countries rather than stay near their homeland where it is culturaly similar and easy to return from? We also need to take into account these places having larger populations than Canada will create enough 'asylum' seekers over time to outnumber Canadians, so all you guys are doing is conquering yourselves. Once Canadians dissappear, Canada will fall apart.

[@mattfm101]

@@orangecrush7174 Skin colour is an intentional obfuscation, people are races, you will discover that as Canada loses its Canadians. Saying something is racist isn't an argument, tell how will Canada become better the less Canadian it becomes? What was wrong with Canada before?

[@mattfm101]

@@Ibroadcastmyself17 Every people in history did that, the only ones made to feel guilty are 'white' people. Don't you find that odd, even suspicious?

[@svengangert2683]

They're just too nice to argue, eh?

[@nramorrisg8415]

Well at least we know he's ignorant most people had radios in them days I think he forgot to explain that one that's how news was broadcast over everywhere back in them days because not many people had TVs.

[@MeYou-ut4kr]

So you have people who regularly appear on mainstream media to talk about mainstream media 🤦‍♂️ yeah not biased at all 😂

[@dmelson7502]

I'd like to hear the rebuttal but it doesn't seem to be presented

[@ColonelRoge]

It never even happened in the whole debate, they had no come back other than name calling.

[@dmelson7502]

@@ColonelRoge Yes I have seen it all in the end and Malcolm Gladwell is a pitiful pitiful representative of his side. Michelle Goldberg argued her case better than he did, all he had was insults.

[@ColonelRoge]

@@dmelson7502 I thought several times in the debate that MG was doing a better job of arguing for the opposing side rather than her own!

[@Ibroadcastmyself17]

​@@ColonelRogeNo she was more honest and conceded many points. She provided evidence/examples for her points here and there. She also did not resort to pathetic ad hominems such as "you are a conspiracy theorist" or race-baiting. Of course, in the end neither was good enough to discredit Taibbi's or Murray's position.

[@brymht]

Taibbi seemed to make better less emotional points. But of bait and switch from Murray

[@krotchlickmeugh627]

Murray was pissed and us viewers loved it

[@markyuto6820]

Tf you're talking about bot

[@JohnSmith-ki2hl]

No "Bait and Switch" at all - you don't seem to understand what that means. Gladwell did, however, do that with his Straw man arguments. Murray is an excellent debater and you(and Malcom) don't understand how good debaters engage the audience.

[@p.a.andrews7772]

PROPAGANDA

[@inotmark]

Still freer than US where such a speech would not be allowed.

[@svengangert2683]

Canda has bill c 16, wich makes speech illegal, the usa has actual freedom of speech written in their constitution. You're a m0r0n.

[@inotmark]

@@svengangert2683 I have seen people fired and deprived of careers for exercising their free speech rights. The supreme court has decided that this is OK. Try getting a lawyer to support your rights when you don't have any money.

[@svengangert2683]

@@inotmark "I have seen people fired and deprived of careers for exercising their free speech rights. The supreme court has decided that this is OK." That only works because most people in the us don't give a fck about the constitution. They will put up with whatever the supreme court decides, even though they don't have to. for example, No one had to get the mRNA injection, yet people took it out of fear. The constitution stands, but when most people trust corporations and politicians more, that's not a constitutional issue. Americans always brag about the 2A yet they never use it, even though the country has been infiltrated by the CCP and the WEF.

[@inotmark]

@@svengangert2683 Biden is president, Harris is vice president, Blinken is fourth in line for the presidency. The constitution obviously does not stand. You can worship it all you want - but if you look at the results, one very bloody civil war and another on the way, you cannot call it a successful document, nor can you acknowledge anything other than that the US is a failed state. The system as set up does not function to "insure domestic Tranquility...promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty..." Get your head out of your butt and look at what the constitution has created. It is a failure. If not, how could that demented collection of morons ever gain power? They are the laughing stock of the entirety of world history, and they speak for all of US, including you. If you are not embarrassed to be an American at this point in history, you have a severe neuron shortage.

[@svengangert2683]

@@inotmark "Biden is president, Harris is vice president, Blinken is fourth in line for the presidency. The constitution obviously does not stand." Do you think these people have been elected fairly and legally? The constitution stands and will always stand. Americans just don't make use of it. Why do you have the right to own arms? Well, use them and remove the corruption.

[@geneappeal]

Kind of colouring the protest in Ottawa a bit there with such friendly unthreatening references as people out with their kids and bouncy castles. ("Oh, it was all hugs and kisses".) Isn't that what they used to call yellow journalism? Anyway, true, those things were there but there was also another side that was a lot less friendly and a lot less savory like sh*tting in people's yards and intimidation. Two things can be true at the same time Douglas. And why not mention the blockade of the border in Alberta where there was no bouncy castle but where plenty of guns were seized if you think Trudeau invoked emergency measures for no reason. Maybe you should mention this, or the fact that the Ottawa police response was a complete collapse and the OPP (Ontario Provincial Police) were choosing to not get involved, which was a totally political decision. Oh but I forgot you and Orwell stand together. Excuse me, brother.

[@JohnSmith-ki2hl]

What a silly disjointed comment. All protests have bad actors. This one had a minority of those. This was 100 x more civilized that the BLM Riots or many others. The Liberal Media (and you) try a silly trick. Douglas Murray would have eviscerated your argument. And BTW, a debate response, which is by definition an opinion, cannot be "Yellow Journalism'. And Yes, Trudeau did invoke the Emergency Measures Act for no reason, except naked political reasons - that just confirms your lack of insight.