Can the Dead Primarchs be Resurrected? | Warhammer 40k Lore

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Majorkill

Majorkill

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@majorkill
@majorkill 2 жыл бұрын
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@civilizedhuman7875
@civilizedhuman7875 2 жыл бұрын
But why ??
@mistersebaa6245
@mistersebaa6245 2 жыл бұрын
@@civilizedhuman7875 yes
@civilizedhuman7875
@civilizedhuman7875 2 жыл бұрын
@@mistersebaa6245 yah But we’re not slaneesh cultist
@dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd
@dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd 2 жыл бұрын
Hey majorkill with the release of new Eldar Corsair models, will you do lore on them in the future?
@akumaking1
@akumaking1 2 жыл бұрын
Can you cover the theory that TTS made GW advance the plot (Eg the Fabulous Custodes, Big E wanted Eldar booty -> Guilliman revived by Yvraine)
@steppanwulf2227
@steppanwulf2227 2 жыл бұрын
The twin Primarchs share a soul, so I wouldn't say alpharius is dead, more like Alpharius/Omegon soul is finally in one body
@dww6
@dww6 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone can be alpharious because he lets them use his name and we know names have power. We also know that warp powers can make one person turn into another (Lucious). Also he's Moloc of the minotaurs, who uses a spear and is clearly beyond a standard primaris.
@NoInfoAvail
@NoInfoAvail 2 жыл бұрын
@@dww6 you think Alpharius / Omegon is the chapter master if the Minatours? That's awesome.
@dww6
@dww6 2 жыл бұрын
@@NoInfoAvail Valerian was scared of him and he's pretty hard-core.
@NoInfoAvail
@NoInfoAvail 2 жыл бұрын
@@dww6 Can you give me the name of a book i could read to experience this event?
@ekulerudamuru
@ekulerudamuru 2 жыл бұрын
@@NoInfoAvail he wasn't scared, he is just on guard cause he wasn't sure if he can defeat him, forgot the book name but just search where valerian and that one SoS are the main characters
@georgepeterson4708
@georgepeterson4708 2 жыл бұрын
In the end ,we all know that the only thing that is truly needed for a primarch's resurrection is GW's sales to go down
@silversurfer8818
@silversurfer8818 2 жыл бұрын
So we need to make a blood pact, to never buy anything from GW. Books are only allowed to be downloaded, illegally, 4free on various sites!
@connormclernon26
@connormclernon26 2 жыл бұрын
@@silversurfer8818 and any new miniatures should be second hand
@TheRiku57
@TheRiku57 10 ай бұрын
@@silversurfer8818or until TTS comes back
@qutbularfeen
@qutbularfeen 8 ай бұрын
​@@silversurfer8818asking for research purposes, what website
@NornQueenKya
@NornQueenKya 2 жыл бұрын
This basically happened in the lore: Emperor: ferrus? Malcador: yes your dead son Emperor: oh that's right. I should resurrect him sometime Malcador: now? Emperor: lolno.
@gideonmele1556
@gideonmele1556 2 жыл бұрын
Iron Hands always getting shafted
@dodojesus4529
@dodojesus4529 2 жыл бұрын
Need to go to home depot for that shit and...i just cant be arsed right now
@webdude15
@webdude15 2 жыл бұрын
@@gideonmele1556 iron shaft
@reachfanatic1234
@reachfanatic1234 2 жыл бұрын
I’m just hoping the reawakening of more Primarchs means an escalation of events like more of the main Tyranid fleet show up, necrons start amassing in earnest, the Orks somehow break into Tyrazn’s book collection and find the rare first edition Krork(they don’t need to free it they just need to see they aren’t krumpin well enough), etc
@gideonmele1556
@gideonmele1556 2 жыл бұрын
And not krumping well enough is a cardinal sin of the highest order. “Get gud” but more green
@juliane.mfarias9285
@juliane.mfarias9285 2 жыл бұрын
Ghazkull should just turn into a new version of The Beast by now. The T'au buil their own Titans as well as getting new technology The Eldar should....i dont know, get their god of Death already? They should have this from a while now
@liquidwater1133
@liquidwater1133 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is whage we need
@GromDarkwater
@GromDarkwater Жыл бұрын
It looks like thats the plan. 10th Ed trailer implies the Nids have finally arrived and 9th was all about the Necrons waking. And there is also the fact chaos is winning. My hope is they resurrect the Dyson Sphere from the older canon and that arrives with something so powerful it crushes everything. The imperium crumbles so Big E can regenerate as the astronomicon wont be needed and Ynnead getting power fixes the webway, holds back slannesh and this leads to the imperial webway being safe for the Emperor to leave Earth. New Great Crusade happens and this would open loads of new stories for them to tell
@mihacimpric745
@mihacimpric745 13 күн бұрын
Ah yes, War in Heaven 2: Electric Boogaloo
@captainvalourous6668
@captainvalourous6668 2 жыл бұрын
Off topic: What was Angron's relationship with the most likable and friendly primarchs such as Sanguinius and Vulkan?
@majorkill
@majorkill 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't get to see much interaction between Angron and those two. He tried to 1v1 Vulkan during the Dropsite massacre and he disliked Sanguinius for being too perfect
@captainvalourous6668
@captainvalourous6668 2 жыл бұрын
@@majorkill So..............does this mean that choir boy Primarch is the only guy in the galaxy that Angron likes to hang out with? 😅
@DaroriDerEinzige
@DaroriDerEinzige 2 жыл бұрын
Accordingly to "Horus Heresy Book Two - Massacre" we know at least that Sanguinius and Angron wont become BFFs soon.
@kellerblair2952
@kellerblair2952 2 жыл бұрын
He hated the angel but loves the choir boy go figure 🤣
@Inshabael.
@Inshabael. 2 жыл бұрын
@@captainvalourous6668 Because despite the biases most of you in this channel may have towards Lorgar, he was one of the if not the only one to treat him like an actual brother, not some crazed maniac and then ascended him as it was the only way to save him.
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 2 жыл бұрын
I assume that GW won't bring back Sanguinius or Dorn for another decade or two - Assuming that GW makes it for that long. They seem hellbent on destroying their IP at the moment by walling it off. Astartes the fan film probably did more to lure new people to 40K then anything GW does, and they put it behind a pay wall.
@heitorpedrodegodoi5646
@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 2 жыл бұрын
Well if they are killing 40K, they are reviving Fantasy, so dont be sad we fantasy fans got your back.
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 2 жыл бұрын
@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 Cheers mate! You're a good citizen of the Imperium. Or Empire. 👊
@divout6688
@divout6688 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, the company has never been stronger so I'm pretty sure they will be fine.
@Mister-Thirteen
@Mister-Thirteen 2 жыл бұрын
Right now GW is doing the one thing niche companies with long term prospects should never do. Hunting for a new market demographic. by valuing new buy-ins over the long term stability of the IP they are shooting themselves in the foot. Look at Comics if you want a good example of this. "Grow don't hunt" is a business truism for a reason.
@Mr.Monacle
@Mr.Monacle 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mister-Thirteen Eh, I don’t know about that, the comic industry in particular is actually, arguably, a good example of something that disproves that truism. The Comic book industry was brought back from the brink of death, not by anything the comics themselves did, but because they hunted for an additional demographic and found one in film. As of now, comic books are doing better than they have in literal decades. Like we’re talking since the 70s and 80s here. There’s a reason it’s called a truism and not truth, sure there’s a reason for it, but it sure isn’t absolute. Now I should note, the comic industry did bring themselves to the brink of death in hunting, but they’d have died long ago if they hadn’t started hunting either way.
@boartank
@boartank 2 жыл бұрын
The rate GW is going, our grandchildren would get to read the ending in our stead
@Selzor
@Selzor 2 жыл бұрын
Every warhammer fantasy fan is just starting at what you said.
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
5:42 Rogal Dorn is at the Imperial Palace dressed up as the Adorable Centurion to be Big E's personal cuddling blanket.
@nicholasl8692
@nicholasl8692 2 жыл бұрын
It’s difficult to find a helmet that can fit his grand mustache, but they eventually did.
@karollysiak1
@karollysiak1 2 жыл бұрын
Horus's soul was not completely destroyed. While Horus was in the warp, each of the chaos gods took a shard of Horus' soul. Each of them has these shards even now. The shard that Khorne has must fight for eternity with warriors of different times. The shard that Tzeentch has must wander through the crystal labyrinth in order to find an exit. I have no idea what happens to the shards that Slannesh and Nurgel have. And each of these shards thinks that he is the real Horus.
@Kbelikar
@Kbelikar 2 жыл бұрын
I dont even want to know what's going with the shard Slaneesh got.
@zerotohero884
@zerotohero884 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kbelikar What do you mean? He is being tormented for Noise Marines to eternity. And Nergal make his shard smelly.
@pyramid1371
@pyramid1371 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kbelikar Probably smoking the shard like its meth
@Ginrikuzuma
@Ginrikuzuma 2 жыл бұрын
@Karol thats just a fan theory its not canon We will have to wait until the new Siege of Terra series is complete to see if they changed the lore or not but as it currently stands his soul was destroyed by the Emperor
@karollysiak1
@karollysiak1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ginrikuzuma This is not a theory, it is a fact After the fight with Leman Russ, Horus was hit hard and fell into a coma or unconscious . Maloghurst entered the warp in order to find a cure for him There he met a shard of Horus who fought a variety of enemies sent by Khorne The Shard was sure he was the real Horus who had entered the warm on Molech and was still there
@christianasiata4485
@christianasiata4485 2 жыл бұрын
I recently had a theory that if the Imperium discovered(if they haven't already) Isha, they could go on a crusade to the realm of Nurgle, bring her back and make her grant the Emperor new flesh, as well as bring back Sanguinius.... I WAS going to write a story but i've only known 40k for around 3yrs now, and didn't want to get retconned. So yeah just an interesting idea.
@UltimateOnionSupream
@UltimateOnionSupream 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to read that story!
@maboi0007
@maboi0007 2 жыл бұрын
There would be complication as Isha is an eldar god, so considering the imperium being very xenophobic, yeah. But otherwise that sounds like a very good story to be made
@maboi0007
@maboi0007 2 жыл бұрын
Also retcon doesn't matter as GW never changes anything lol
@imarschX
@imarschX 2 жыл бұрын
there is only one problem, if i remember correctly, you need also the true name of Big E to resurect him. i think valdor was in search for this. so we have to wait for Vlador and russ to return.
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
@@imarschX Nah all it needs is the Proteus Protocol to bring back Big E. Little Kitten is on his way to get it
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
4:08 Jaghatai Khan is currently at Commorragh where he slays Dark Eldar in droves and drives around in speed like a boss.
@asd3601
@asd3601 2 жыл бұрын
doing sick doughnuts
@sonicwingnut
@sonicwingnut 2 жыл бұрын
I actually reckon the Khan got intercepted in the webway by none other than the Meme God himself, Cegorach. Who had planned this shit all along, swapped about some of the Primarchs when they were originally cast into the warp and made the Khan his boy. He didn't fall to chaos cos the chaos gods were obvious dicks but he'd probably get on pretty well with the Meme God.
@MichaelBrown-rg8oi
@MichaelBrown-rg8oi 2 жыл бұрын
@@sonicwingnut Which is dumb he would want Jaghatai... It would make way more sense if he got ahold of Angron, Konrad, or Fulgrim. Way more meme material with those bois.
@sonicwingnut
@sonicwingnut 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelBrown-rg8oi Nah sod that those 3 are just massive emos - Angron's sat in his room punching walls and listening to Pantera, Fulgrim's straightening his hair and taking selfies for his MySpace profile, and Kurze is probably under a fucking bridge somewhere waving his glowsticks about to EDM - meanwhile our boy The Khan is out there laughing his fucking napper off doing massive donuts and popping wheelies on his sick bike, while unironically blasting Whitesnake's "Children of the Night" at full whack. I know whose party the Harlequins are going to.
@MichaelBrown-rg8oi
@MichaelBrown-rg8oi 2 жыл бұрын
@@sonicwingnut Well dang, when you bring the Harlequins into you really got a point. Them boys like speed... And I'm not just talking about moving fast if you know what I mean ;)
@scottphillips6005
@scottphillips6005 2 жыл бұрын
I think Rogal would be the most interesting to bring back, as I think he'd have the strongest reaction to the current Imperium, especially with Guilliman in charge.
@PIJIM0N
@PIJIM0N 2 жыл бұрын
nah Sanguinius returning would be the most interesting. Instead of him having a strong reaction to the current state of the imperium, the whole galaxy would have a stronger reaction to his resurrection. The nids will panic once Sang learns of the devastation of Baal and the necrons could be a likely ally to the imperium due to Sang's past good relations with the silent king.
@cassiusaureliusanima
@cassiusaureliusanima 2 жыл бұрын
I think that Lion and Dorn would be the most interesting ones. Their reactions to the Imperium and the state of things would be amazing and so different and both of them would have their differences with Roboute. We have to remember that Lion doesn't even know about the Codex and that his Legion is divided in several chapters (not to Talk about the fallen). To be honest, I think that the only ones who could keep them together would be the Khan or Russ (or a Dante with some of his father's power)
@ShadowGhost0117
@ShadowGhost0117 2 жыл бұрын
@@cassiusaureliusanima it’s interesting how even though the Dark Angels split into multiple chapters, they still operate in some form of makeshift legion due to how the Dark Angels supreme grand master can tell other chapters of their gene line to go do stuff.
@ElBandito
@ElBandito 2 жыл бұрын
YES.
@readyjoe6427
@readyjoe6427 2 жыл бұрын
@@PIJIM0N if sanguinius returns with girlyman in charge it’d be too noble bright. Majority of the imperiums problems would become trivial and progress would start to happen in the setting, GW wouldn’t allow that lol
@darksider2903
@darksider2903 2 жыл бұрын
Sanguinor pointed at something more higher being when it appeared before Dante.. the higher being was Sanguinius who comforted Dante. Sanguinor is probably another little shard of sangy. Primarch's souls are too op, probably contains many shards. Like magnus's souls did split up. Every shard contains different personalities. I hope in future, emperor revives angron with his sympathetic shard intact.
@bored_boar
@bored_boar 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah we need some better treatment for our angry boi, even if it's just for a shard of his soul. Angron's greatest asset as a Primarch is his high level of empathy, even higher than his most caring brothers. The emperor could've made great use of Angron if he didn't 'sperg out and refuse to remove the butcher's nails.
@anthonylamonica8301
@anthonylamonica8301 2 жыл бұрын
@@bored_boar How did the Emperor feel that it was okay to _not_ chuck Angry Boi into a stasis capsule until the nails could be removed? He's the _friggin'_ Emperor! It would've only taken him a year, tops, to figure out how to do it safely! And because he's the friggin' Emperor he doesn't need anybody's permission to do whatever he wants.
@bored_boar
@bored_boar 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonylamonica8301 It would've taken him and Malcador days if they worked together. If they can bring back a dead Primarch with their warp and biomancy fuckery, then they sure as heck can remove some dark age tech implants from a Primarch's brain. Emperor's only flaw is his lack of foresight, despite actually having the power of foresight lol
@darksider2903
@darksider2903 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonylamonica8301 they were running out of time. For some reason (probably Tyranids/pysker rampant), They had to finish the crusade and start building webway as soon as possible. They used angron as like 'use whatever you have in the hand at this moment' kinda situation.
@Mr.Monacle
@Mr.Monacle 2 жыл бұрын
@@bored_boar The bigger issue wasn’t that it couldn’t be done, it couldn’t be done without quite possibly killing him and it’s made pretty clear even in the thing you’re referring to, resurrecting a Primarch isn’t a fast process. It probably takes a great deal of time and the undivided attention of the Emperor. Something they simply couldn’t afford (personally, I’d have tried to remove the nails anyways, because like… I’d argue that a dead Primarch would be better, long term, than Angron was, but either way)
@markjaarsma3566
@markjaarsma3566 2 жыл бұрын
If Angron got revived we might see a whole new primarch as the revived clone would not have the nails and maybe he wouldn't be an abortion. (if you ignore the fact that the perfect Fulgrim clone had all his memories so the angron clone would too)
@TheRealJG0
@TheRealJG0 2 жыл бұрын
I like this idea, who better to beat angrons ass for his misdeeds than a "how it should've gone" angron?
@bumblebot2458
@bumblebot2458 2 жыл бұрын
That honestly sounds like a really cool idea. Like Fulgrim obviously, Angron would probably remember what he did in the past, but now that he doesn't have the nails, how would he feel? It's a really interesting idea.
@dac314
@dac314 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealJG0 I also like the "power of heart/friends we made along the way" idea, but Daemon Primarch Angron really *ought* to fuck up Clone-gron, just for the grimdorks.
@xaga8794
@xaga8794 2 жыл бұрын
@@bumblebot2458 wlel angron has even a bigger heart then Vulkan. But I would say through all that happened in his live I would say a very nice primarch who hates the imperium for the use of slave labour and would surely get himself a big part of imperium where he makes a few new laws. Because I think even without the nails he does not like papa smurf. And papa smurf surely doesn't like him
@annhentaiuser6658
@annhentaiuser6658 Жыл бұрын
Angron is actually intended to be the most humble and generous among all Primarchs, given that he said no to killing his master on his home planet before the Butcher's Nails made him.
@reillycurran8508
@reillycurran8508 2 жыл бұрын
There's actually a bit of speculation that "Alpharius" is trying to find "Omegon"'s soul half to complete himself, and that he is, in the meantime some variety of loyalist demon prince either mutated into some kind of half hydra half man or something more based in quantum uncertainty "and yet Alpharius dies, and yet Alpharius lives"
@Runeman40055
@Runeman40055 2 жыл бұрын
Does the fact that Vulkan keeps dying mean that he is a weak fighter? Or that he just fights super strong enemies ?
@majorkill
@majorkill 2 жыл бұрын
He doesn't have much regard for his own safety
@gronke4202
@gronke4202 2 жыл бұрын
@@majorkill sounds about right
@RasmusJohan
@RasmusJohan 2 жыл бұрын
If you knew you couldnt actually die, you just also just throw yourself in the thick of it every single time. Remember Robot Gullible superpower is that he knows when to back the fuck out out of a fight.
@tristonshortt5379
@tristonshortt5379 2 жыл бұрын
He fights everyone and never backs down he's fought 100s of chaos marines at a time and took a nuke to the face by purtirabo and still was fighting after in one fight he's also one of the biggest and most physically powerful primearchs
@The_Keeper
@The_Keeper 2 жыл бұрын
For Vulkan, death is a minor inconvenience.
@kellerblair2952
@kellerblair2952 2 жыл бұрын
Good story called Wayward son where a Blood Raven pysker with the help of a Dark Eldar flesh sculptor and the Emperor revived Ferrus Manus with a clone body and to make sure he isn’t Decapitated again she put a ring of necrodermis on his throat.
@Spartan135
@Spartan135 2 жыл бұрын
but there's a problem: the dark eldar flesh sculptor takes payment in slaves...
@willmiller9141
@willmiller9141 2 жыл бұрын
@@Spartan135 a chapter or 2 of space marines might work as payment for a fucking primarch
@BestCupid
@BestCupid 2 жыл бұрын
@@Spartan135 that is still not a bad trade in the long run. A set of slaves and imperiam not bothering him as long as he doesn't bother them for a new Primarch
@oscarwind4266
@oscarwind4266 2 жыл бұрын
I... think given it was a dark eldar the collar might have held another purpose.
@khornethebloodgod4155
@khornethebloodgod4155 2 жыл бұрын
@@Spartan135 Ehh, Melisara is pretty okay for a Deldar, especially for a Homunculus. She revived Ferrus because she admires the Emperor as a geneticist.
@NoInfoAvail
@NoInfoAvail 2 жыл бұрын
I had never heard of this minor warp god theory. I suppose it makes sense. I had wondered how the Emperor made his son's souls. I figured they just generated the normal way, as the bodies of his son's took form. But honestly, yeah that makes a lot of sense. There are probably lots of minor god like warp beings. They can't all be horrid monsters that wanna farm mortal souls.
@Nick-st4hb
@Nick-st4hb 2 жыл бұрын
Considering that the Chaos gods said several times the primarchs are their "Children" I would say they souls came from daemon princes, big E beat them and purge the chaos from their souls and that would male even more sense: Vulkan (from Nurgle), Guilliman (from Khorne), Magnus (from Teenzcht) Konrad (from Slaneesh)
@Tree-beard
@Tree-beard 2 жыл бұрын
Rogal Dorn can be. He was only dead....... in pretend.
@jessenielsen7218
@jessenielsen7218 2 жыл бұрын
"I survived by being dead..in pretend."
@chainsawboy2388
@chainsawboy2388 Жыл бұрын
“I was killed, and yet I lived.”
@tablekun8690
@tablekun8690 2 жыл бұрын
I think that loyalist fulgrim exists because a piece of his soul broke off due to rylanor being a badass and eventually came back because fabious got his chin just right It would be pretty cool if ferrus came back as a dreadnaught primarch Dorn is obviously in a centurion suit keeping his aging father company like a good son
@solomonkenji5611
@solomonkenji5611 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see more Primarchs return.
@en4135
@en4135 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Magnus or Sanguinius are the two hardest to resurrect. Their collective shards have all taken individual identities so not only would you have to free those shards but you'd have to wipe them of those identities if you want a "Stable" primarch. Not to mention at least one shard of Magnus was completely destroyed, though ironically this was the shard that seemed to be based on the inherent indecision within Magnus, meaning that even if all the Shards were brought together he may be overall weaker but far more certain of himself. That said Magnus has found and reclaimed a number of these, meaning a substantial portion of the Warp Entity that made up the soul of Magnus could be inherently permanently corrupted by Chaos. This would also go hand in hand with how tragic GW likes to make Magnus.
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
Big E got Magnus' soul back from the Indecisive Mollusk by poking him with his Flaming Golden Sword.
@en4135
@en4135 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWarmachine375 Yes I'm aware TTS is a thing that exists
@OmegaGamer04
@OmegaGamer04 2 жыл бұрын
@@en4135 it is a thing that has more love for 40k than GW.
@en4135
@en4135 2 жыл бұрын
@@OmegaGamer04 ok?
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
5:20 Leman Russ looks really good in that helmet he is wearing.
@RachelTension
@RachelTension 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, now that you explain it like that I realize sangunius is even more jesus than before. The dante, the mephiston, the sanguinor, is essentially the father, the son, the holy ghost.
@jokeen2006
@jokeen2006 2 жыл бұрын
A pattern fitting for my glorious hawk bro
@sandwichgaming2002
@sandwichgaming2002 2 жыл бұрын
Alpha legion for the first
@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436
@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436 2 жыл бұрын
If true, then Sanguinius next
@vincentrees4970
@vincentrees4970 2 жыл бұрын
I am Alpharius. You The Hydra awaits.
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 2 жыл бұрын
There's a yellow centurion with an unusually large chainblade standing by
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 2 жыл бұрын
@@vincentrees4970 I am Rogal Dorne, and this is my chainblade.
@vincentrees4970
@vincentrees4970 2 жыл бұрын
@@AsbestosMuffins Hows the hand big guy
@Pyre
@Pyre 2 жыл бұрын
I am *here* for "Actually interesting Deep Fantasy aspects to this setting." That's some Narnia Old Magic lore, right there.
@szewc0svd
@szewc0svd 2 жыл бұрын
For the Lion I believe there is something deeper going on. Watchers in the dark were living on Caliban long before El'Johnsons arrival, and they were strongly anit chaos oriented. Now we have Watchers keeping Lion away from the world after his near fatal battle with chaos. Is this a form of quarantine forced on him due to him being touched by chaos during battle with luther?
@ianharrison5758
@ianharrison5758 2 жыл бұрын
While that would be cool, the Lion isn’t the right primarch to do that with. He’s in the completely incorruptible tier of primarchs with g man and Lehman. Having a known bastion of loyalty so steadfast a Keeper of secrets got tongue tied trying to get him come out the rock corrupted… it’s shit writing. Now, a loyalist Lion possessed by some crazy powerful demon could be cool.
@logenninefingers6906
@logenninefingers6906 2 жыл бұрын
Hes Gordon Freeman
@physetermacrocephalus2209
@physetermacrocephalus2209 2 жыл бұрын
They are probably quarentining him so chaos doesn't try to do another Horus....because without the Emperor around this time who could stand against him?
@rheynilcalderon4246
@rheynilcalderon4246 2 жыл бұрын
If fabius bile manage to resurrected an Astarte by reattaching a decapitated head why not primarchs like ferrus Manus Got to Love an Uber uber overpowered primarch
@johnquach8821
@johnquach8821 2 жыл бұрын
He did clone Ferrus Manus multiple times, only for Fulgrim to kill them when they didn't turn to Chaos. I'm not sure if these were perfect clones like the Fulgrim clone in Clonelord though.
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnquach8821 It would be ironic if Fabius did make a perfect clone of Ferrus... Only to sell him to Trazyn. Trazyn would love to put Clone Ferrus and Clone Fulgrim together in his collection.
@anthonylamonica8301
@anthonylamonica8301 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWarmachine375 The irony that Trazyn might have more Loyalist Primarchs than the Imperium of Man at this point...
@christiandauz3742
@christiandauz3742 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad its retcon out since Josh has left GW
@collinb.8542
@collinb.8542 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonylamonica8301 lmao
@MutsuKazuma
@MutsuKazuma 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like the lion as a playable model so he can whoop some sense into the imperium
@anthonylamonica8301
@anthonylamonica8301 2 жыл бұрын
The Lion _would_ probably be a better Inquisitor than the actual Inquisitors are. He'd also kill two of every four Inquisitors he came across, and slap the third one silly. The first two, he'd destroy for being outright counterproductive and unnecessarily cruel, and the third he'd slap for not keeping the first two in line.
@logandelaharpe6362
@logandelaharpe6362 Жыл бұрын
I am honestly surprise roboute didn’t order cawl to build another suite and get some eldar death magic to bring back the angel
@robertnelson9599
@robertnelson9599 2 ай бұрын
I doubt Guilliman trusted the Eldar to keep helping the Imperium. I am certain the Eldar would have screwed it up.
@johnp2773
@johnp2773 2 жыл бұрын
I bet The khan or Vulcan will be the brought back next. They will have the least impact on the story because they will fly off somewhere and have good table top battles. That way GW did something without really doing anything.
@Mr.Monacle
@Mr.Monacle 2 жыл бұрын
I just want The Khan to bring with him some unique jet bike units, because for fuck’s sake, the Dark Angels have unique jet bike units, but the legion that, in lore, pushed speed as a doctrine to it’s *absolute limits* and then had to *modify* the wargear they were given to make it go *faster* because that limit wasn’t good enough, doesn’t. Like, canonically, the White Scars have one of the most unique war doctrine of the 18 legions, and it’s not at all reflected on the tabletop outside of their chapter trait.
@gudnisnaer8171
@gudnisnaer8171 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Monacle i feel like he Khan is the most likely to return as i feel like Gw is slowly giving the White scars more attention
@DarthAxolotl
@DarthAxolotl Жыл бұрын
This aged poorly
@Lordbaronvontexx
@Lordbaronvontexx 2 жыл бұрын
I think the lion is the best primarch to bring back because his interactions with guilliman will be the most interesting
@TitaniumRobotSeacow
@TitaniumRobotSeacow 2 жыл бұрын
Аnd because y'know he's sleeping secured in Imperium territory, like how Rowboat Grill Man was.
@ScooterinAB
@ScooterinAB 2 жыл бұрын
You mean his weird heretically suspicious behaviour, because he's a total f*ing traitor? yeah, that would be pretty entertaining.
@josedeltoro5288
@josedeltoro5288 2 жыл бұрын
Just as a clarification, the khan killed Mortarion, that’s where the bright light came from, in return he was heavily wounded at the brink of death
@StrixNebulosa_mk1
@StrixNebulosa_mk1 2 жыл бұрын
Sanguinius's body was recovered and is in stasis currently, so it actually wouldn't be impossible to think that he could be resurrected similarly to Roboute.
@Stonecold300
@Stonecold300 Жыл бұрын
There's also that image of blood angels standing around a giant coffin so mebbe
@StrixNebulosa_mk1
@StrixNebulosa_mk1 Жыл бұрын
@@Stonecold300 isnt he kinda a vampire angel? Or atleast that is the vibes I get when understanding the lore. And if you remember correctly, Roboute had to be killed before he could be revived.
@Stonecold300
@Stonecold300 Жыл бұрын
@@StrixNebulosa_mk1 yea
@edwinbradway5654
@edwinbradway5654 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is that omegon died and alpharius lived simply because alpharius was raised by the emperor and trained directly for sabotage while omegon had little to no experience with him and met Horus first
@jaegerbomb269
@jaegerbomb269 2 жыл бұрын
I would be okay with Sanguinius coming back. Still waiting on my boy Corvus Corax to return. One can dream.
@edwinbradway5654
@edwinbradway5654 2 жыл бұрын
The resurrection of jaghatai might actually be why malcador died on the golden throne
@The_Keeper
@The_Keeper 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Malcador did go **fwomp** a bit fast for an extremely powerful psyker like him...
@FuSiionCraft
@FuSiionCraft Жыл бұрын
The 2nd is theorised to be Malal/Malice So not only he is alive, he's a HUGE pain. For *everyone*
@Spencer_Thatcher
@Spencer_Thatcher Жыл бұрын
There's a big headless corpse that appears with the legion of the damned... I'm pretty sure we all know what Ferris ghost is up to after the drop site massacre
@crimsonconquestcustoms2584
@crimsonconquestcustoms2584 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Majorkill! I love your channel and learned so much about Warhammer. One part that escapes me is the imperial navy and after watching angels of death really appreciate Thier role. I was wondering if you could explain the imperial navy or what ships are in it?
@silversurfer8818
@silversurfer8818 2 жыл бұрын
And this is in fact the 7th iteration of primarchs the Emperor has created, there are so many warp gods out there! And I cant wait for the 8th!
@alekseitheandor
@alekseitheandor 2 жыл бұрын
eh? what do you mean
@collinb.8542
@collinb.8542 2 жыл бұрын
@@alekseitheandor I haven't the foggiest of what this person is talking about but it sounds very interesting.
@logandelaharpe6362
@logandelaharpe6362 Жыл бұрын
Each chaos god has a fragment of Horuses soul he can be brought back
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
It is possible if Big E use his TOO-OP-PLZ-NERF powers to find Sanguinius' soul and bring His fabulous hawkboy back to life as the Blood Angels Primarch's body is at Baal.
@anarchistmousepad2183
@anarchistmousepad2183 2 жыл бұрын
it might be over but I am still going with TTS cannon so Rogal is alive
@TJlolbagger
@TJlolbagger 2 жыл бұрын
To me the Primarchs are the most interesting part of the 40k universe, they all have such unique and interesting characters and personalities. Plus these living demigods of war are just so fun to read about in general. I would love for them to be resurrected and see them in other kinds of conflicts working together.
@dww6
@dww6 2 жыл бұрын
Alpharious/omegeon and the lion are coming back together (1 and 20) , they each have a rivals who are secretly not on the side we think they are. The lion is a fence sitting traitor, Alpharious is derpy loyalist.
@teal_m_101
@teal_m_101 2 жыл бұрын
WHOI DUNT 'UMIEZ JUST STICH DEM 'EADS BAK TUGATHAR?!
@toddferrullo1871
@toddferrullo1871 Жыл бұрын
Not that long ago Games Workshop specifically stated that nearly any primarch could return except for Horus, Conrad and Sanguinis. They stated that those three will never be coming back... period.
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
2:44 The only way to wake up Lion El'Jonson from his coma is to smack him in the schnoz with a Warhammer that inflicts 40k damage on him.
@sweepingtime
@sweepingtime 2 жыл бұрын
Would be nice if one or more of the other factions try to create their own primarchs, injecting something new into the setting.
@scorpiowarrior7841
@scorpiowarrior7841 2 жыл бұрын
Due to the use of the warp, there are very few races who'd try, and even fewer who'd have the knowledge to succeed
@sharinganZERO23
@sharinganZERO23 2 жыл бұрын
My fanfiction idea was the eldar create an avatar of vol to make new armor for the eldar that functions like warframes
@scorpiowarrior7841
@scorpiowarrior7841 2 жыл бұрын
@@sharinganZERO23 if it'd be as powerful as a warframe the Eldar could become a real genuine threat, especially if they could mass produce them and have them as a heavy infantry option
@Jarvolo27
@Jarvolo27 Жыл бұрын
Well the S.A has happened and the Lion is roaring again
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 2 жыл бұрын
The Primarchs are some kind of warp entity, blanks can see through their auras and view their physical form directly, the custodies books have a scene like this where Gman meets with the book's sister of silence and she sees a tired old man, whereas everyone else sees a big shining angelic demigod
@AustinFoss00
@AustinFoss00 2 жыл бұрын
I do think the next Loyalist Primarch we will see is definitely gonna be the Lion, or maybe Russ if he finds what he's looking for. Seeing what Guilliman was able to accomplish for the Imperium just by himself, I could see the Imperium becoming a real powerhouse against the forces of Chaos, Orks and Necrons with some more Primarchs running the show.
@walterlopez5054
@walterlopez5054 2 жыл бұрын
Dreadnought Ferrus Cawl has been messing around with Eldar tech. Just get some Bonesingers to grow some Wraith parts, wire that into a fancy Dreddy and call the Soul Home by sacrificing a million Psykers.
@snakething87
@snakething87 2 жыл бұрын
Watchers: “Time to get up Johnny.” The Lion: “5 more minutes.”
@charlesfisher-kh5sw
@charlesfisher-kh5sw Жыл бұрын
I thought sanguinious's soul was trapped on the vengeful spirit by the chaos blessing it got where everyone that died aboard the vengeful spirit got their soul stuck there as a crystal statue
@alasiadarthe001actual9
@alasiadarthe001actual9 2 жыл бұрын
My fan canon is that Dorn is in an iron cage in perty’s fortress and the two have been arguing for this whole time which is why no one has seen this whole time.
@thedyingmeme6
@thedyingmeme6 2 жыл бұрын
Theyre not even talking theyre just slapping each other over and over lmao
@SilentRaider53
@SilentRaider53 Жыл бұрын
I'm all for Ferrus Manus and Sanguinius returning to life, but it must be done right and with care, and for me, they should be the last primarchs to return, especially Sanguinius since his death was so significant and is pretty much 40k's version of Jesus.
@levongevorgyan6789
@levongevorgyan6789 2 жыл бұрын
I can see Konrad come back if: Jago is still alive, hears about the perfect clone of Fulgrim, and decides to work with Fabius to bring him back.
@chipious9736
@chipious9736 2 жыл бұрын
The Mechanicus attaching a warp driven head on Manus’s body would be fitting.
@malcomalexander9437
@malcomalexander9437 2 жыл бұрын
Theoretically, you could revive Big Eby cloning his body, evacuate Terra, and then pull the plug on the Golden Throne. That could pull Emps into the new body. Or clone Emps, and then have a bunch of non-Chaos super Psykers do their own version of the ritual those Shamans did and make a new one.
@SIMSURGE
@SIMSURGE Жыл бұрын
I think Sanguinius and Konrad should remain dead. Konrad for sure. All his character and actions pointed him to his end. That Made his character so awesome.
@negativejam2188
@negativejam2188 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see the lion, omegon, loyalist/less-chaosy magnus, Leman, and vulkan come back. I can totally see leman, humbled (or driven a little crazier) by the warp, and a freshly reformed magnus turning around to both get the emperor off the golden throne (magnus takes his place if temporarily to give him a reprieve) and leman healing him with his newly freed eldar goddess waif. Then it’s real-shit hours. The khan comes out of the webway with a dark eldar biker gang, the lion re-emerges from his nap, and omegon waits till the perfect moment to turn his loyalist guns back on chaos just for the second great crusade to commence. And a healed emperor plus his psychic boost from being worshiped like a god would probably be his most powerful form yet. Maybe even strong enough to turn and permenantly seal the failed-human-webway with a snap of his fingers, freeing magnus to fuck shit up too.
@doublethebenjamin8185
@doublethebenjamin8185 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the emperor possessing Guillimaine and setting Nurgle's realm on fire was was some foreshadowing . . .
@civilizedhuman7875
@civilizedhuman7875 2 жыл бұрын
What if the emperor of mankind returned and became the chaos god of order ??
@paulphyo
@paulphyo 2 жыл бұрын
thats like being the black president of white people
@kellerblair2952
@kellerblair2952 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulphyo So South Africa
@user-pq4by2rq9y
@user-pq4by2rq9y 2 жыл бұрын
The chaos God of Order would be weird
@bored_boar
@bored_boar 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulphyo The black president of the third reich
@paulphyo
@paulphyo 2 жыл бұрын
@@bored_boar ok ya this
@God.of.0lympus
@God.of.0lympus Жыл бұрын
that warp demon bird guy is so cool i wonder if then demons could switch sides and worship the big E as the new god of them
@Galland780
@Galland780 2 жыл бұрын
Hey majorkill, you're probably not gonna read this and you probably got a lot of comments like this but I just wanna say, I have been feeling like shit for months now but i found your channel like a week ago and for the first time in a while, I genuinely felt happy and smiled. Hell, I even laugh at the jokes you made (They are funny tbh). So, thank you for making my life a bit better when everything around me is turning into hell. Thanks dude.
@McGrewer
@McGrewer 2 жыл бұрын
Well, as we know with Folgrim, yes. Yes they can. Fulgrim wasn't even technically dead, and some random chuckle fuck with a stiffy for cloning managed to bring back for real pre heresy Fulgrim. If Fabius Bile could do it accidentally, then the Emperor, or someone with access to him and his research, could do it a lot more reliably.
@strakshot9004
@strakshot9004 2 жыл бұрын
About one of the two unknow primarchs that we don't know anything about, there is one of them in solemnas, in Trazyn museum ( damn I love that toster)
@adamchapman8632
@adamchapman8632 Жыл бұрын
I think a loyalist Konrad could happen if he was resurrected considering he didn’t see it coming while he was alive. It would completely shatter his perception of inescapable fate.
@johno4078
@johno4078 2 жыл бұрын
more majorkill theory videos
@gideonmele1556
@gideonmele1556 2 жыл бұрын
Having another loyalist primarch pop up would be excellent (Dorn would be hilarious given his opinions of the Smurfking or the Lion as he was almost the warmaster… and it’s the Lion) as there would be a chance for others to weigh in on Robby boy’s decisions. Plus the mental image of another pre-heresy person suddenly seeing wtf became of the Imperium over the years would be amusing (and probably terrifying for any bystanders)
@Slycarlo
@Slycarlo 2 жыл бұрын
the only way to resurect our beloved dove boy sanguinius is to fuse his soul with the body of the first proto primarch the Angel!
@anthonylamonica8301
@anthonylamonica8301 2 жыл бұрын
Sanguinius was already the most powerful Primarch, and even _after_ Horus was force-fed Warp Spaghetti by the Chaos Gods his position only dropped to number two. Fusing Sanguinius with The Angel would make him _obscenely_ powerful, as in he'd have a point-value and stat-line comparable to an Imperator Titan on the tabletop.
@insertedgynamehere
@insertedgynamehere 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Sanguinius fanboy, and I'm all for the Sanguinius worship, but that's a tad too far.
@rexlumontad5644
@rexlumontad5644 2 жыл бұрын
@@insertedgynamehere Why not?
@insertedgynamehere
@insertedgynamehere 2 жыл бұрын
@@rexlumontad5644 because that would make him way too powerful
@rexlumontad5644
@rexlumontad5644 2 жыл бұрын
@@insertedgynamehere Ain't that a good thing. Chaos daemons, champions and heretics are gonna get rekt
@malfuy9558
@malfuy9558 2 жыл бұрын
It literally makes my day when you drop a new video
@oliverp3545
@oliverp3545 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the warp souls theory does especially make sense because it does explain ehy certain warp entities representing real space are seemingly not around, and why the souls of the primarchs seem to act out of their own interests and not seemingly too interested in what is happening. Some want to continue their agreement they swore whilst others seem act indifferent to the loss of their mortal forms, hense why Khan's and Fulgrim's were able to do so, whilst the ones belonging to daemon primarchs probably got weakened by the chaos gods taking a munch out of them.
@alecnorona4277
@alecnorona4277 Жыл бұрын
Who knew that the lion would just be woken up by the watchers in the dark around a year after this video was released
@crazyfakar1
@crazyfakar1 2 жыл бұрын
Opening with the family photo/portraits - classic
@michaelpalerino5276
@michaelpalerino5276 2 жыл бұрын
The XIth Primarch may be a prisoner of the Shadowkeepers. They are keeping "Subject 11" imprisoned.
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
For Ferrus Manus to come back, Fabius Bile would create his own clone of Ferrus Manus that has the soul of the original Iron Hands Primarch behind Snakeboi Fulgrim's back and sell it to Trazyn the Infinite so that the Collector will add him alongside the Clone Fulgrim.
@superspies32
@superspies32 2 жыл бұрын
But one problem: who can raid Trazyn’s museum or find another things that more valuable to trade with the Primarch clone?
@knightofeee
@knightofeee 2 жыл бұрын
The only primarch I want to see return is Ferrus for the simple reason it would be the best story. If Ferrus returned, he would find out all that happened afterwards and he would have a huge issue with guilliman for breaking his legion. The most interesting storyline and plot I think would come from him coming onto the scene.
@bluebird8105
@bluebird8105 2 жыл бұрын
I recently read some Acuff about custodes and it was mentioned somewhere that they are guarding something called "subject 11". Sadly I forgot where that was and I don't think that GW will ever do anything with it if it is true. But it could be something very interesting
@MyAlessandro1995
@MyAlessandro1995 2 жыл бұрын
Ferrus technically had 2 arms made of Necrodermis right? Could they maybe use some Necrons tek(Cawl would be happy to help) and create a complete Metal Ferrus
@The_Keeper
@The_Keeper 2 жыл бұрын
Riiiight. That is basically what the Necrons did for themselves. Wouldn't be any good. Remember, the whole "bio-transference process" basically cast out their souls. And the soul part is aparently quite important for the Primarchs.
@theheiromancer5980
@theheiromancer5980 Жыл бұрын
Dorn found funny shenanigans regarding the two lost primarchs in the imperial palace.
@prime1collector792
@prime1collector792 2 жыл бұрын
The watchers in the dark are endlessly living it up bukkake style on the Lion.
@Habegger23
@Habegger23 2 жыл бұрын
well done! Another great video
@raestlin86
@raestlin86 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it implied that the soul/spirit of Sanguinuis is haunting the Vengeful Spirit?
@majorkill
@majorkill 2 жыл бұрын
That’s just a small share/after image
@Alex-dr2lp
@Alex-dr2lp Жыл бұрын
Oh how I wish sanguinius could return.
@Turnil321
@Turnil321 2 жыл бұрын
There are shards of Horus in the warp. So he might be able to be resurrected by collecting the shards from all the chaos god's domeins.
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 2 жыл бұрын
Corvax is funny because he's like a big raven tapping on Lorgar's window saying "IMA KILL YOU"
@Maehedrose
@Maehedrose 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to save this for my Rogue Trader campaign. I think it inevitable that one of our campaigns will culminate in the resurrection of a Primarch, so this will be a useful resource.
@Leeky24
@Leeky24 Ай бұрын
I personally think that rogal isn’t dead that he is just vibing in the imperial palace
@haleonnovarider8182
@haleonnovarider8182 2 жыл бұрын
One correction: G-man wasn't dead. He was literally suspended at the instant before death. So basically the same as the Emperor Sanguinius = Dead Alpharius = Dead Ferrus = Dead
@ScooterinAB
@ScooterinAB 2 жыл бұрын
He was explicitly killed. GW just retconned that.
@terrorbilly3367
@terrorbilly3367 2 жыл бұрын
plot twist: Golden throne is occupied by Alpharius
@honeybadgerftw2383
@honeybadgerftw2383 2 жыл бұрын
god damn the lion lore background got me good ffs
@nicweaver2205
@nicweaver2205 2 жыл бұрын
If malcador and the emperor could resurrect primarchs given enough time, then it stands to reason that the two unknown primarchs were also wiped from existence like horus.
@ragingmoderate6791
@ragingmoderate6791 2 жыл бұрын
So I've listened to Warhawk twice and Jaghatai wasn't actually dead at the end. The human woman, who's name escapes me because the white scars all called her Zhu at least I thinks that's how it's spelled, said he was still breathing and that's why she convinced them to bring his body back to the thunderbird she showed up on. They needed to get him back to the palace asap because while not dead he was dying. Maybe I am wrong but I don't think he was all the way dead so no resurrection necessary.
@NemFX
@NemFX 2 жыл бұрын
Alpharius is currently mantling one of his captains, so he's not dead, but is basically modifying his new body into the old one. Fulgrim is trapped in a painting, but can probably be freed. Ferrus has been resurrected like a dozen times.
@MrAbraxus666
@MrAbraxus666 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure big Sangy's soul is trapped onboard the Vengeful Spirit, there's all those moving crystal statues that a marine keeps blapping and then finding a new Sanguinius statue elsewhere.
@gadrielvanorion9872
@gadrielvanorion9872 2 жыл бұрын
Can you talk about the evidence that primarch 11 might be in the catacombs under the imperial palace. Cuz I think in the custodian codex or so it does say The 11th is there
@christiandauz3742
@christiandauz3742 2 жыл бұрын
Doubt it. Both Lost Primarchs are dead and gone. Their betrayal gave Dorn a heart attack, A FUCKING HEART ATTACK
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